Ya have one dk on one boss, u on 2nd boss and last dk just take ravager
#protection
sweet summit
upbeat orbit
Use vengeance dh
hallow phoenix
That's what we did until we just two tanked it
sweet summit
We 2 tanked cuz 2 dps dks and 1 bdk
upbeat orbit
Unholy dk must be pretty brutal on that fight
sweet summit
Unholy and hdh is great for deleting small adds
Frost is great for deleting ravager
hallow phoenix
I think prot pal would be the best ravager tank now that I think about it?
With that one talent that gives DR based on number of enemies
Ravager is only up when there's a fuck ton of adds
sweet summit
Maybe, yea
hallow phoenix
Could final stand it too
sweet summit
They have final stand for every ravager?
sharp night
vdh probably handles it better
sweet summit
2 or 3 depending on kill timer
sweet summit
Sorry i have no idea how prot pal works
hallow phoenix
They can get fucking stupid with enough enemies nearby
hallow phoenix
3% DR and damage per enemy
sharp night
it was capped because of some guy cheesing in uldir
hallow phoenix
Ofc
sharp night
he got the infest from waycrest, was summoned to uldir
and soloed mother with 99% DR
from constantly spawning infested maggots
hallow phoenix
Lolol
sweet summit
Was it the rextroy dude?
sharp night
yeah
sweet summit
Legend
sharp night
so it got capped to 50% DR
hallow phoenix
He the one that soloed portal keeper?
sweet summit
Didnt he also oneshot vectis?
alpine iris
Yep
hallow phoenix
What a legend
strong forum
🤷♂️
cinder roost
Ravager isn't a big deal if you swap at one stack
I like the 3 tanks idea, I should impose that so I can replace a DPS and not bore myself soloing Tek half of the fight
mild ore
sweet summit
Uhhh pants i think
cinder roost
An azerite piece with Bloodsport 😄
Wait it doesn't even give that much, my joke isn't true my bad
strong forum
Pants has highest stat budget of all non azerite pieces
daring sable
Heart of darkness vs brace for impact in m+ -> thoughts?
strong forum
Heart is amazing
BFI is great if your shield is lower than 465
And lately I've been thinking that on giga high keys bfi will win defensively by alot
sharp rover
Pretty much everyone's shield is under 470, no?
Only places you could get better currently are caches and Il'gynoth, and not many people are 9/12 yet
sweet summit
Pmuch
You could also get a 470 one from a 5mask full clear i guess. Also mythic boe
inland silo
latent sequoia
390 Shield gang. Getting used to hard hitting mobs and kiting in only m+10
latent sequoia
400 boe if i can trust my eyes
flint cliff
id like to get some nice parses in on my prot warrior. what kind of talents and traits would you guys run for nyolotha parsing?
strong forum
Just look at top logs
And copy theirs
It'll be mostly devastator for talents and 2-3x hod + 3x bom
Nothing mindblowing
flint cliff
i need to snag infinite stars too to be competitive it looks like
latent sequoia
Is it worth to take 3x clap traits for m+ or just one and go for others instead?
ebon hound
just 1
latent sequoia
aye, thanks
daring sable
https://i.imgur.com/QYEka9t.png thoughts on these rings in comparison for m+?
i kinda like both, haste more offensively but the healing one also seems niche
sweet summit
Id take the haste one
sharp rover
Do a test run and see how much healing you actually get
sweet summit
Imagine vita tho 🚤
sick sentinel
I always have a proc from something
civic holly
hi guys im learning mythic maut tonight, my guild keep both adds out and eat them both at once for the phase change, is there any reason not to just eat the first add earlier
strong forum
Did someone say haste
cinder roost
@umbral zodiac Depends if you wanna swap tank or not
strong forum
Brett, Maut gets mana based off of how much mana the add has
sick sentinel
That's with multiple targets tho right
cinder roost
Also yeah you can dps the adds a little more that way I guess
strong forum
2x racing pulse t3 + expedient t3 + 2x OP + vita + dragonscale
cinder roost
But if you're gonna do 2 stone phases anyway
Doesn't matter, you can bring the 1st when the 2nd spawn and 2nd almost instantly
north ridge
whats the best 2nd ring trait on the engineering helm for prot?
edgy bone
wait
strong forum
Ok
sweet summit
Im still waiting 
tame garden
wooden radish
@ionic fern https://imgur.com/WpKV1qj.gifv
tame garden
ionic fern
Poor kitty. :()
orchid roost
hey whats the stat prio real quick for m+?
amber siren
ilvl
sick sentinel
Ilvl > Haste = Crit > Vers > Mastery
On necrotic weeks, Ilvl > Crit > Haste > Vers > Mastery
orchid roost
ok thank you
west kayak
I cannot seem to get a Vita to save my life but I am running 2x OP, 2x MS, 1xGizmo (engi helm, 1x Racing Pulse R3, Quick Nav and Humming. Seem to average around 80% haste topping near or over 200% on occasion.
Works well with Torment in a Jar and R3 TD. 🙂
analog crest
are there any recommended weakauras to track healer CDs in dungeons?
sick sentinel
zepr
brisk rain
is hm tauren racial any good in m+?
strange rampart
AoE stun? It is awsome 😉
strong forum
The charge is rather useless
I can hardly think of situations where its good cuz it forces you out the pack
strange rampart
@strong forum Charge are highmountain taurens, normal taurens have stomp
brisk ferry
he said hm
strange rampart
ah, sorry, i overlooked that 😉
sand fiber
hey can any of you guys tell me what the best heart of azeroth essences are for mythic +
brisk rain
mmm and normal tauren?
strong forum
That's covered in the guide trapsoul
Normal tauren are just as ugly and warstomp has a cast time, idk if it's off DR anymore or not
warm plinth
@wooden radish Hi Lincoln
tame garden
Warstomp stun is on stun dr yes
brisk rain
yikes
wooden radish
@warm plinth hello
brisk rain
cuz i was thinking about aesthetics and tauren looks hella good in elite fierce gladiator set ;D
and its big
is Jes's Howler trinket any good?
craggy harness
but, aren't they the literal beefcake of characters?
amber siren
tauren can look good in some sets
i'd rather see a tauren than another female belf
literal garbo
strong forum
Male tauren are the epitomy of ugliness in wow imo
Female tauren have good tmog proportions and animations
Belf is tmog masterrace for horde
brisk ferry
I've found zandalari to be nice for transmog purposes as well
strong forum
Ye they're good, but belf is still better proportions
Vulpera are surprisingly good with proportions too
brisk rain
soo, jes howler any good or not rly?
tame garden
Vulpera is bis
terse oasis
HMT bis
cause moose horns
or goblin, for rocket jump.. but warrior doesn't really need the mobility as much as DK
sweet summit
@brisk rain if you pair it with avatar and like combust its rly good
terse oasis
i use a jes howler on my warrior, but it's because it's one of the few trinkets i have that isn't crap
big red button isn't worth using as a tank.. or a dps..
strong forum
The 2min CD on it is kinda meh, but outside of that a decent trinket
sweet summit
2 min cd makes it perfect for combust
terse oasis
also jes buffs your party too, which people care about i guess
strong forum
That massive 160 vers the mage gets makes it giga worth for combust I see
sweet summit
:^)
final mist
Nightborne is the superior Warrior race, thanks 👏👏👏
terse oasis
i mean, it's not nothing
final mist
Just get a Rezan’s and a Vita Titanshard xd
terse oasis
and my lack of other options makes it okay
I have a jes and wraithion trinket
for wings
modest thistle
Big old wing dings
frail oar
Deep down we all know that gnome racial is best racial 🙂
terse oasis
pfft, if you don't have moose horns, why bother?
tame garden
Vulpera is bis
warm plinth
Vulpera is BiS
tame garden
Thank you pinky
terse oasis
get your furries out of my game 😛
strong forum
I am objectively correct and thus factual
With everything I say
How dare you oppose me
tame garden
It is known
warm plinth
This is the way
warm plinth
GOTTEM
sick sentinel
brittle owl
that's so gross it's actually sexy
sick sentinel
🏃
lucid dew
void elf
craggy harness
makes a good frost mage
lucid dew
i only have elves ha
craggy harness
first was a belf chick lock
and then race transferred to worgen, and got the mop challenger set
and i don't think my lock will ever change her look now
lucid dew
female elves al lday
hushed cobalt
Just gimme millie manastorm with a swordboard
wooden radish
Imagine being a dark dwarf like @ionic fern tho
tame garden
Vulpera is bis
mortal brook
DID is bae. If lfd wasnt so imba id play it
modest thistle
Booooo
ionic fern
wooden radish
🤔
sweet summit
e x p o s e d
edgy bone
Hey guys are these essences holding me back an ything major?
VoP and Lucid Dreams are rank 1
tame garden
Using anima is trolling
edgy bone
Well I just made my guy
prisma crane
so it's blizz trolling
left hatch
even CoF is better minor than anima lol
edgy bone
What would you suggest instead of anima
prisma crane
cuz 2020 and shit grind for essences still amirite?
edgy bone
I got rank2 CnS
prisma crane
formless and warden too would be better
one or the other if you need corrupt resist too
edgy bone
I just really dont wanna grind the essences all over again since this is my alt, so I'm wondering how MUCH theyre truly holding back my prot warrior
edgy bone
ok thank you
prisma crane
you can get r3 visions very easily now
terse oasis
oh yeah, r3 visions is like.. 3 hours tops
edgy bone
ok
prisma crane
yea
dusk meteor
you can do heroic until you have rank 2 if you are really doing badly tanking m+
edgy bone
Well my gear isn't awful, I just didnt konw if my esssences are holding me back like HUGE
prisma crane
is that breath of the dying?
edgy bone
That 470 ring has r3 Tdev on it
Shit I'm in arms again
My essences are the ones I psoted first
Just with CnS instead of anima based on your suggestion
prisma crane
vision primary, then CnS, then formless/warden, and then aegis or sphere or CoF or w/e really
and unless you're doing something really difficult or are not familiar with tanking, you dont need double surv trinkets
ionic fern
@wooden radish best thing about healing keys is that you see the weird stuff other tanks do.
👀
prisma crane
and run ML as much as you can for a new shield @edgy bone
wooden radish
they aren't even hard
prisma crane
i probably get better hps as prot than i would as a healer, so....
mortal brook
Good work
warm plinth
Thanks Steve
ionic fern
It's a nightmare on +12
prisma crane
in pugs the healers really carry a lot of burden
warm plinth
Pugging a 10 as a healer is like doing a 20 in a group
prisma crane
think of all those casts that go off
biggest peeve of mine is how no one binds their interrupts
and when DH dont interrupt i just lose it
warm plinth
You get no time to DPS because the mongos stand in fucking everything
wooden radish
@warm plinth i inted a bunch of 5 mask runs yesterday. 😦
warm plinth
Or no I’m wrong. Inted two in mage
wooden radish
shaw ?
warm plinth
The third I inted on Alleria 🙃
warm plinth
I didn’t turn camera to check LoS and got hit by an eruption
wooden radish
only got 1/2 the sanity i should have
warm plinth
Rip
wooden radish
then i went into alleria with half sanity
got her to 20%
woulda killed it
if i didn't fuck it up
wooden radish
you just run around spamming BH
always have your back turned
and los if shes stupid
warm plinth
XD
Yeah I thought I fucked my self on the last one. Actually managed to get hit by a darkened sky circle
wooden radish
i need to plan out my immunes better
warm plinth
Does bubble block sanity damage too?
warm plinth
Nice. Netherwalk doesn’t unfortunately
wooden radish
like on the chains of silence thing
strong forum
wooden radish
spellward
strong forum
i love this week
wooden radish
stay in
strong forum
wtf
wooden radish
and kill
warm plinth
You’re Croatian Nome?
warm plinth
Ah
warm plinth
Thanks ❤️
wooden radish
what spec/class did you 5 mask as Pinky ?
warm plinth
Havoc
warm plinth
Mage
prisma crane
fuck, i need to level my mage
havoc mage sounds legit
but i'm really bad with pet classes
sick sentinel
Hey I’m new to prot, when dealing with the inner traits of azerite gear is it better to take base stat gain, damages, or scenerio based traits like “stacking dodge”
prisma crane
OP is OP
wooden radish
imagine still using a x-mas pfp in march
sick sentinel
I’ll be primarily focusing on m+
warm plinth
Lul I just watched his pfp change
strong forum
unstable flames and overwhelming power are best
edgy bone
Hey Krotos sorry to bother you again, this is the orb you were talking about right
prisma crane
that's one you could use, yea
edgy bone
Probably better than C nS
sick sentinel
Ty @strong forum
tame garden
cursive idol
Why is anima hated on so much as a minor? it's gotta be a good synergy with TD in m+.
tame garden
Because its not
prisma crane
the problem is that you lose the hp when you need it most
warm plinth
Synergy doesn’t automatically mean good
prisma crane
and yea CnS is better
strong forum
nothing is better than cns
wooden radish
formless isn't even better than WV minor for passive strength
prisma crane
also, warden would be better if you want HP
warm plinth
It gives you like 1.5k extra damage per proc over C&S but doesn’t affect all of your abilities like the vers from C&S does
prisma crane
@edgy bone the reason i said formless/warden is because they give us 10 corruption resist, and you have a r3 TD so you may be considering using one of those 2
short bear
Is sphere of suppression a good option?
sweet summit
r1 is rly all you "need" for sphere
potent anvil
R4 or bust 
rapid belfry
How do you guys sim yourself for m+? 5 targets 2min without lust or something like that?
tame garden
10 target 40s
warm plinth
Sim it how you normally pull
mortal brook
depends on dungeon too. workshop you would follow your 1boss patch more than your 5boss patch
rapid belfry
ok thanks
strong forum
5 targets 1min no lust
maiden ravine
I hate how easy holy paladin feels
He might get a higher Rio than my warrior cause it's easier to get carried
terse oasis
just press holy shock, to easy
terse oasis
if people could stop stacking for quaking
i'd be so happy
i got blapped in a TD, because i had 35% reduced hp from crocs, got rooted, and had the healer and a DH stack on me
was the best
warm plinth
Well, the reduced HP wouldn't matter anyway because quaking is % of max HP
tame garden
🤓
sharp night
it's funny because the way quaking works you are actually taking less from them than they are from you, iirc
it does 40% of your maxhp to anyone else you hit
so since you have more hp you're hurting them more than they hurt you
prisma crane
i believe it's your own hp on yourself
not the other way around
otherwise anyone with a BDK or VDH would just die
prisma crane
yes, but when hit by others, the dmg is still based on your personal HP
i havent looked close enough to confirm what you're saying is true or not, but it makes no sense for them to change it that way
pastel vector
for m+ azerith trait clockwork heart better then second brace for impact?
sharp night
if you read the tooltip it works the way i described
prisma crane
warm plinth
You get hit for 40% of YOUR max HP per person
prisma crane
the dmg you take is still based on your own HP, not the HP of the person who is next to you
warm plinth
If I stack on a tank with 1 million HP, I'm still taking 40% of my HP, not theirs.
mortal brook
feel free to sim for it, clockwork will prob beat BFI, especially as you add targets
sharp night
nah because lone the other day asked why quake hit him for 400k
when he stacked on me
warm plinth
Probably had two people on him and didn't realize.
pastel vector
@mortal brook maybe, but i mean there not only damage factor 🙂 i just never see this trait before, so was wondering if it even good
prisma crane
if you are stacked on anyone you're gonna take more than "zero" dmg unless you have an absorb on you
mortal brook
all those secondaries are giving you defense as well as offense
plush pagoda
id say clockwork
prisma crane
@pastel vector mechagon chest is our top simming chest in ST, take that for what it's worth
and near top in aoe as well
nvm, top in aoe too
prisma crane
well its our second best shoulders (of reasonable ilvl)
and would be best if it had OP
plush pagoda
MS up time pretty doodoo
grizzled glen
That’s weird, I was told in this discord that MS > CH
prisma crane
obviously there will be slight variations with your personal gear, but normalized it's the best we can get
ashvane's is still very good
mortal brook
weights change every time you swap gear. MS and CH can be fairly similar for average stat provided. so sure could change
sullen valve
@warm plinth wowA is pretty great and you should use it early and often
warm plinth
Amen
sullen valve
On god Mwahi
sick sentinel
WTB more resist
mortal brook
next week 8 more
plush pagoda
would yall take earthlink or az gob
warm plinth
Earthlink. Globules is a sim trap
plush pagoda
^
sweet summit
enlighten me pinky, whats wrong with globules? what even is globules
tame garden
📉
warm plinth
Basically you put globules on your target and when they reach 3 stacks, they explode, dealing AoE damage
But if the globules never reach 3, they literally do nothing
Which happens pretty often in real world scenarios
But in sims it assumes they always explode
sick sentinel
Is Sphere worth running at rank 1? (I’m gonna work on leveling it up but ya know it takes a bit)
sweet summit
ye
warm plinth
Yeah, you get the vast majority of the effect at Rank 1.
sweet summit
as a minor
strong forum
yes
warm plinth
I have zero intention of ever getting rank 2 or 3
tame garden
But fury bote
sick sentinel
I need some good corruption. I keep getting the avoidance proc. 
mortal brook
gross
west remnant
465 UR shield good enough to drop my iron fortress for a DC you think?
sweet summit
a 2nd DC, no
a 1st DC, yes
west remnant
would be 2'nd unless i lose the one on engi goggles
but i dont think bloodsport is worth no
?
west remnant
for sure. ooc though why would it be better then 2nd DC?
obv suvivabilty. but the deeps! lol
sweet summit
more block value and damage back on blocked attacks
tropic cobalt
Any1 else having problems with Method Dungeon tools this week? Dratnos routes have 100% but at times i end up missing 3% Like in the 17 workshop i just did. I skipped one the blob packs as stated in Dratnos route. But eneded up having to take another of those damg bots before last boss.
maiden ravine
teeming always has issues
outer dew
Teeming is the week you go do 10s as burner keys to figure out %
sharp night
have you updated mdt
the counts were slightly messed up but there was an update pushed yesterday that fixed them
it was bugged and not calculating teeming correctly before the update if you didn't switch off teeming week and back onto it
but on teeming you do have to kill one of the patrolling bots anyway
mortal brook
blobs are messy apparently
sharp night
how do you explode blobs without damaging/tagging them though
don't they have to get low hp
maiden ravine
if everyone's dead
warm plinth
Yeah idk how you would have one not get tagged because they explode when they "die"
prisma obsidian
does it feel like TD is proccing less for tank/heal spec this week?
sharp night
no
prisma obsidian
cool ill take my tin foil hat off now
sharp night
even if it "feels" like it, there's variance because it's rppm
onyx garden
Man how do you keep up with people inside dungeons? I feel so slow without Bounding Stride talented lol
nimble brook
Intervene people
stark scroll
You won't keep up with classes like demon hunters, but if you're giving the group the mobs backs and moving as you chain pull you'll stay in front mostly
nimble brook
Your charge can target friendly players too
onyx garden
Ohhh right. I thought about doing that but wasn't sure if there was a better way lol
Thanks!
modern brook
How much walking do you have in dungeons
mortal brook
Wailing cavern? Lots
outer mantle
lol
mortal brook
Totcg? Like none
outer mantle
i usually taunt aoe and move to next pack if it's not so deadly small pulls in m+
onyx garden
Yeah I haven't really been chain pulling but I guess once I start doing that it'll be easier lol
I did a King's Rest last night and wanted to cry
So slow
outer mantle
playing both bm hunter and warrior is pain in the ass. Cant adjust from 100% mov speed to 160% mov speed 😄
onyx garden
I feel that
left hatch
most dungeons you caneither mount, or the next pull is within a heroic leap + charge away
esp with the nzoth affix too iv found huge value in the 30s heroic leap talent
thought i would miss the extra range on TC but
havn't really noticed its loss
onyx garden
Yeah I've thought about going back. The extra range on TC is nice but I feel mobility takes a huge hit
strong forum
more often than not the extra range is not required
people underestimate how large 8 yard radius already is
undone sun
because us americans don't understand your silly meters
onyx garden
^ lmfao
tame garden
🤦♂️
onyx garden
Bro cus like even in boss fights an shit. I'll heroic leap outta something. Then 10 seconds later I gotta do it again and it's still on cooldown lol
Like wtf
I mean I guess I can always charge at friendly targets. But idk. That seems wack
carmine wadi
Boys what essences would you take in KR 19 this week?
go with lucid major or vision?
carmine nymph
mortal brook
I'd just hide the weapon enchant
half swift
Hi everybody, anyone can say if ilvl on azerite pieces are higher than BIS traits?
It is beter 3 ilvl 450 with BIS traits for m+ or 3 480 with shit traits?
warm plinth
The only trait you would drop ilevel for is your first Deafening Crash
Other than that, ilevel is going to be better. Because traits that are sub-optimal are not necessarily shit
half swift
even for high keys? like 20+
maiden ravine
made a mistake trusting a spriest
he had td3 and still did less damage overall than me
tame garden
cyan oar
is lingering psychic shell any good?
mortal brook
certainly. as long as you have a reason for its use.
daring bay
How much do you think this thing would go for?
On a very high pop server btw
pretty good for prot
mortal brook
whatever cleansed versions are going for, tbh.
mortal brook
yeah, its pretty nice. its not anything i'd swap out my TD for
daring bay
think per corruption this might be better
mortal brook
there's 46 corruptions I wouldnt wear because just 'pretty good'
inner trail
10 corruption is pretty useful for staying under breakpoints, there isn't a 10 corruption td
mortal brook
masterful per corruption
TD per corruption
as you can see, the bar is much longer
sure, 10 corruption breakpoint can work. but again, a dozen options I'd wear before it. TA1, GW for 15. I'd put haste vers or crit amps before mastery, even
left hatch
stat %'s are some of the worst, both in Per corruption and otherwise
inner trail
it's also probably bis for ret
mortal brook
now, you might be able to sell it to a ret, because mastery amp IS good for them
but not a prot that knows what theyre doing
left hatch
even with it being awesome for ret, i think the general public for dps is still salivating over IS
and being r1 itll be a tough sell
cosmic harness
Got 465 weap with 6% vers, should I use it or cleanse?
left hatch
if you have the budget for it sure
cosmic harness
I have to decide between that or mind flay to stay below 40
left hatch
mind flay is better
mortal brook
resist goes up next week. can you hold it?
left hatch
but you can easily handle above 40
cosmic harness
Mind flay rank 1 of course
I get destroyed at m+ with more than 40
Like 10% of damage is the thing from beyond
mortal brook
its def a comfort level between you and your healer
cosmic harness
I'm pugging as tank
left hatch
either way twisted appendage is better
mortal brook
trust no one then
left hatch
play around with it + spell reflect and stormbolt if you wanna live on the edge
otherwise id say hold onto it till reset
for that extra bit of resist
mortal brook
aye, I'll add another TA1 next week on my pants \o/
cosmic harness
I'll stick to my 460 weapon then and use it next week with corruption
maiden ravine
All I want is a 15 or 16 workshop, come on haha
tame garden
It's not normal to sim dungeon slice
twilit smelt
why not
tame garden
Bad sim profile
river storm
twilit smelt
can you explain why's it a bad sim profile
twilit smelt
elaborate?
tame garden
Idk how to elaborate further
It's not representative of a dungeon
So why would you use it to decide your dungeon gear
twilit smelt
whats representative of a dungeon then in your opinion?
tame garden
Best bet is doing multiple patchwerk sims with different mobcounts and lengths based on how you pull
Each dungeon is so different you cant have a sim profile that matches them all
twilit smelt
but as an overall way to sim
without simming every dungeon with every pull
it should be fine, no?
warm plinth
If you want a quick and dirty way, then do 5 target patchwerk for 1-2 minutes, and single target patchwerk for 3 minutes
And make a judgment call from there
warm plinth
Because that's approximately the average pull size
If you typically pull larger, then make it more targets
twilit smelt
i'd say 5 target is only true for kings rest
tame garden
Well then definitely dont use dungeon slice
Cuz I dont think it goes much higher than that
warm plinth
Yeah plus dungeon slice drastically prioritizes single target damage
tender phoenix
is [Rezan's Gleaming Eye] the best dung trinket i can use?
modest thistle
Butcher block is good too I think. Same proc rate round about
warm plinth
Yep, those are probably the two best from dungeons.
tender phoenix
where do i get that from?
tender phoenix
why would i want crit procs thought crit was like low prio?
warm plinth
Crit is a very strong AoE DPS stat, and it's very strong defensively in AoE as well.
tender phoenix
ah ok, i have wings so just get block for M+?
tender phoenix
yep
warm plinth
Yeah, though 2 haste trinkets isn't bad or anything
tender phoenix
ive farmmed for the past week and im stuck with a 430 rezan as my rng is trash
ive done a +4/5/6/9 and nothing but tidalcores
unreal nacelle
when echoing vode is stacked does it double...so if I have 2 T2 +.6% stacked will that be 1.2% net?
left hatch
yes, almost all the damage procs are additive in their damage
it does not increase the frequency of hte proc or function as 2 seperate procs, just increases the damage of the existing one
theres like 1 or 2 exceptions that do function separately (i think Lash of the Void is one) but idr which offhand
modest thistle
Mind Flay noodle is additive as well?
left hatch
not sure on that one, all i know is that theres 1 or 2 that function as seperate entities
and its not EV/TD/IS
in any case more instances of hte corruption = more damage from it
unreal nacelle
just trying to determine if 2-T2 EV is worth it or if theres something else I should be using....over dps in a +5 UR was 36k and EV did 13% of that
left hatch
EV is ok
if you have other options there might be better choices but
its not a wrong choice
modest thistle
Just get twilight devastation like everyone else
unreal nacelle
and it keeps the corruption managable
modest thistle
Seems easy enough
unreal nacelle
has anyone done the comparison...I had 1 T3 TD but it wasnt doing much for me...less than 10% dps
left hatch
yes, bloodmallet has plenty of sims comparing
TD3 is much. much better than even an EV4
modest thistle
Td isn’t a high proc rate but it’s massive massive damage
warm plinth
TD proc rate scales with haste so
left hatch
yah.. if your current content level is 5's
digital heath
should i cleanse these? i cant use them right now cause of thier corruption.
warm plinth
Do you raid ever?
digital heath
yes im a raid tank
lusty grotto
@tropic mesa hi
digital heath
now i just guess it just trying to figure out what to swap with them then
tropic mesa
@lusty grotto what are you
lusty grotto
@modern brook masstercard is here
left hatch
Wrathion maut Xanesh vexionaShadhar Raden and ilgynoth are all worth using IS on
modest thistle
He appears to be a can of ravioli
left hatch
the rest other corruptiosn will serve you better
lusty grotto
@modest thistle are you new?
modest thistle
Hi 😊
lusty grotto
im chef nimchip damn it
wind garden
Since when do chefs deserve respect? Besides that boyardee guy.
modest thistle
He’s a legend
lusty grotto
THAT TRAITOR
boyardee stole my product to make a name for himself
that filthy alliance
modern brook
@lusty grotto 😠
undone sun
toxichip.png
hasty crypt
Hey boys, just a quick question. How good is Ineffeble Truth (30 corruption)? Is it worth cleansing it for Mastery proc rank 2?
left hatch
idk about any meme. but i sure would appreciate a totally unrelated jimmy kimmel YT video
that is very definitely not related to Nim in any way
and id go with the mastery proc
over Ineffeble
hasty crypt
aye cool, as I was suspecting. Thanks!
warm plinth
I don't have Jimmy Kimmel, but I do have Conan 🤔 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BgdnsYhDDk
left hatch
oof my memory did not serve me well
but this was def what i was trying to think about
ty
lusty grotto
tyty
left hatch
now the real question nim is are you a casual boomer, an unexperienced zoomer or were you paid 🤔
lusty grotto
asking the real questions
left hatch
someone has to write the new biopic on the life and times of Chef Nimchip
the world needs to know
lusty grotto
i select ghash and late as my biopic writers
lusty grotto
bull can be my e-book narrator
karmic onyx
H Nzoth headpiece better than Engy?
stark scroll
DC + BoM
sharp night
probably better than engi in that case?
inland bolt
does anyone know how spirit breaker obelisk work when doing it with last boss?
is the spirit breaker cast on a fixed timer?
inland bolt
if someone else is taunting it do they need to get it before the cast goes out?
sharp night
yes
inland bolt
or can they taunt it the moment it starts casting
inland bolt
so its abit risky right? cause if someone taunts it early they could get meleed into spirit breaker
inland bolt
do you know what the timings are? how long is the very first one, and how long are the ones after that
it seems random af
mild river
Hey guys. How's torment in a jar for prot? Is it good for padding? Or crap?
cinder roost
It's not bad but only worth on Vexiona and maybe sometimes Hivemind in raid
mild river
For M+ is good?
analog swift
Eh I’d think rezans/gore crusted is better for very good offensive benefit and good defensive
dusky seal
Heart of Darkness vs. extra Deafening for m+?
amber siren
only need 1 deafening crash, darkness would be better
dusky seal
was fairly common to stack them in 8.2 for extra damage, but I guess Heart of Darkness is just a better alternative now.
sick sentinel
HoD is nuts
That said, extra DC is an old way of thinking and was barely worth it when people were doing it.
deep folio
guys what are the best essences for high keys M+18 and higher?
left hatch
stacking DC died when UC got nerfed from 100% to 30%
and same as you have been doing VoP major, and some combo of sphere, lucid aegis cns
onyx vessel
2 hod right now im sitting at like 35% crit 30 haste 33 mastery
Without bonus from into the fray
maiden ravine
which wings of LFR can you get corrupted mementos from?
I know third wing is only one miniboss
mortal brook
2nd would hit 3
amber siren
the boss after the elevator after the first 3 does
the blood guy on the way to illy does too
and the guy on the bridge to hivemind
idk what exact things they belong to
wings*
maiden ravine
okay, so second yeah
got into one on Ra-den of course
I need 200 more mementos to get elite extermination on paladin
only cause I want to full clear my next SW on paladin to get 4 pages at once haha
oof, so no lfr wing does the one before the elevator
prisma ember
can you block/parry when using fang? dk discord says yes but i get chunked when i use it
lime locust
Parry/dodge yes, Idk about block
maiden ravine
we're told no here
maiden ravine
okay, so second wing is 400, third is only 200
I imagine last wing is 200.
first doesn't actually get to a mini boss
maiden ravine
arrgh
when you can't get out of combat in the freaking mage district to orb
rip an extra vessel lol
fringe marten
Gushing wound triggers on all targets of Tclap or no? I would think not because I would think it's damage would be insane in M+
mortal brook
its proc is on an individual target thats taking damage from you
if you TC 17 things, GW might proc from that TC, on one of them at a time per proc
maiden ravine
I TIMED A 15!
yay
first of many hopefully
ToS will stay my most comfortable dungeon always probably
and man, Awakened makes it a blast
1601.6!
the difference between an untimed 15 and a timed is a lot
mortal brook
good work
sick sentinel
Let’s gooo
maiden ravine
I need to do an AD, but man, I hate that place on fort weeks
sick sentinel
I love tanking honestly. I Played rogue last ssn but I just hate waiting for tanks because no one wants to play one in keys.
Plus I just got r3 and r2 twilight dev and that makes it even more fun
mortal brook
I like dps'ing while getting punched in the face. its perfect!
sharp night
AD is fine on fort but teeming it's a pain
tbh i'd rather do fort AD than tyr because yazma and volkaal just last too long on tyr
mortal brook
lets you more easily do an ob with yazzy too
maiden ravine
yeah,,, but the reanimated
haha
I'll give one a try tomorrow probably
I need to definitely get a freehold done
sharp night
skip all of the reanimated honor guards except one
maiden ravine
I know that's the ideal, but I'll see haha
I didn't time a 14 Siege I had cause of stupid dps
and they all had decent rio too
Anyone who says using the spotters to clear faster is common knowledge hasn't pugged in a while. 😄
carmine wadi
I did KR 19 yesterday some groups are really pain omg
Zul is fucking me hard how do you tank him on this week?
amber siren
charged inquisitor dude in trade district, hit an illusion on the way over and dc'd and lost the vessel
mortal brook
heck
maiden ravine
It pisses me off how easy they are on resto druid and holy paladin
plush pagoda
@carmine wadi kiting
potent moth
Hey guys, I'm trying to figure out which trinkets is should use atm (for m+). I'm pretty fond of the N'Zoth trinket, but im not really sure about the second one. I struggle to choose between my 445 Urchin with leech and 475 Humming Black Dragonscale. What are your thoughts on this?
sweet summit
Do you need any defensive trinket to survive?
short blaze
what Dungeon would you suggest to try to push in Teeming Week? I literally only tanked four of the twelve Dungons, so its kinda time to start with the other ones
sweet summit
Anything thats not atal dazar or kings rest lmfao
potent moth
Depends on key lvl i guess and affixes
+15 i see absolutly no problem with surving , but obviosly going for higher keys like 18 19 etc it gets harder and I'm not sure if i should pick up the extra haste from the scale oder use the urchin for the extra healing
sweet summit
Im usually running vita+rezan in 19s, and i dont have any problems surviving. Except for zul, zul is a bitch.
lime locust
I picked up a decent level modular platinum plating... is it ever gonna be worth using? Currently running Punch card with haste + Vers/haste and vita/mlode rocket trinket depending on circumstance
maiden ravine
@short blaze workshop is a joke this week
ToS with the exception of one pull is really easy too
I was finally brave enough to reflect cyclone strike
lime locust
Last pull of workshop can get hairy too, but I managed it +11 with a I lv 400 healer
maiden ravine
I swear it did 20% of his health
carmine wadi
@plush pagoda what's the range where he stops casting?
sweet summit
@lime locust plating is never ever going to be used. its giga bad
sick sentinel
@inland bolt I tend too "break" the cast with heroic leap so they can taunt in time
Charging a ranged or leaping away does the trick
wise mirage
mortal brook
You doing those world qiests right?
short blaze
its something
sweet summit
a step in the right direction
warm plinth
What ilevel did you get?
Just curious because I know people rocking the 410 TD pieces and that must feel bad lol
warm plinth
Nice
mortal brook
EZ
oblique garnet
errant ginkgo
Guys. Major essence for Workshop 20 this week ? 🙂
strong forum
id always run cof in workshop
warm plinth
^ Very much a single target focused dungeon
warm plinth
Probably could if you wanted to go full bore. There's really only two spicy packs and I don't even know if one of them is dangerous as a tank (can't remember if that DoT the bots do can target the tank)
onyx vessel
2 on the final lap
sweet summit
pretty sure it cant target the tank
onyx vessel
I guess its only the 1
I wonder how much the spell hits for in a 20
On king mechagon
On the 9 i did it was doing 150
Wish we had legion spell reflect sometimes
warm plinth
It's every 2 seconds always
warm plinth
Over 20
carmine wadi
okay so temple 18 i just go for vision
warm plinth
Yeah
hoary viper
How is 12 corruption ineffable truth on prot warr?
tame garden
4
tropic cobalt
Is Vial of Animated still wonderful? Just got a 465 with socket
daring marlin
of course
sweet summit
its good if you use it correctly
ive found it hard to line up with avatar due to VoP and AM recently
but its great for damage
wooden radish
@warm plinth 10 attempts 😦
warm plinth
😦
wooden radish
But I got it done!
wooden radish
Yep 5 mask solo
wooden radish
Fucking 2 orbs and cheat death between Umbric and Alleria
strong forum
i tried 5 mask but got destroyed by that elite at umbric
warm plinth
Yeah it's so dumb lol
strong forum
where you get fucking followed by 10000 swirlies
strong forum
ye... i learned for my 4 mask runs
just orbed that bitch
and oneshot it with cyka blast
5 mask woulda been giga easy if i didnt brick it there
but i wanted r13 first
warm plinth
It took me uh...I guess 5 attempts altogether. One a couple weeks ago that was a heartbreaking 760k attempt on Alleria
And then 4 this week
2 got bricked in Mage, 3rd on Alleria again, and then my successful one
strong forum
alleria is annoying as hell
you can slap thrall 24/7
but alleria you have so much downtime....
warm plinth
Yeah
strong forum
who thinks this is a good idea
tell me
btw ez 72k overall in ML
this week is so fucking fun
its insane
if i reforged my arms gear i coulda prolly gotten to like 80k
that or TD t3
west inlet
You can bait gift into all sanity draining minibosses and you won't have to use an orb before mage quarters easily
Gift of the titans is on a cd and will proc on the first mob kill after it's off cd
daring marlin
5 mask is ezpz
looking forward to when I have more gear on my pally cuz it seems like you can cheese so much as them too lol
vestal edge
seems like raid bosses are dying too fast for infinite stars anymore except some mythic bosses. twilight dev just seems like the play all the time
sick sentinel
new to prot warrior. what are some good WA to keep track of our spells?
tame garden
RAID pog
daring marlin
I'm such a pepega
go in to do 4-mask for ezpz mementos
get all odd crystals
miss a single cage in trade district
amazing
tame garden
warm plinth
My 5 mask clear gave me a speed item
Just curious, did you do another 5 mask or just 4?
distant crystal
daring marlin
tbh I should have just did 5 again
I was never below 1k sanity
between the pots and k'babs
tame garden
Ya 4mask is snooze now
warm plinth
I was actually thinking at this stage that 4 masks with long night would be easier than 4 masks with daredevil
daring marlin
I just took long night off
warm plinth
But I guess either way it’s cake at this point
daring marlin
daredevil is basically just elites you have to worry about
and all their shit is easily cheesed with gift
warm plinth
Yeah
daring marlin
Pulling all of trade, dwarven and cathedral is fun af
though pulling all of cathedral is the only scary one
daring marlin
pretty much
doing the big pulls is a lot more chill on my pally lol
stack crusade and pop bubble
like the fuck is this gameshark shit
warm plinth
lol, I miss gameshark
sick sentinel
is mastery % gain good
mental scarab
Dumb question but how do i get more then 2 masks 👀👀👀👀👀
left hatch
clearing the lost zones w/ a mask gives you a new mask for each one
kind veldt
yo does surgin vitality actually have good uptime as tank?
strong forum
50%
kind veldt
is it any good or just cleanse?