protection

[strong forum]

I have like 4 pants 7 rings 2 gloves 2 belts

So I can literally alternate between everything

[red dock]

Im not cleansing the surging vitality, I have a second pair of hands with socket

[modern brook]

I have every piece of corruption i own equipped and i cap out at 25 :^)

[strong forum]

Surging vita is good

[red dock]

Yeah I dont usually actually cleanse unless I have to

[strong forum]

Cleanse the avoidance

[red dock]

I guess I ddiddn

[strong forum]

It's borderline useless

One of the 2 most useless corruptions, next to the leech one

[red dock]

didnt set the surging vitality uptime very high at all now that I think about it

[strong forum]

It's 50%

[red dock]

Oops

Okay, thank you

I'll do that

[tall plinth]

is tier 2 echoing void worth corruption value for m+

[fallen violet]

How is mind flay rank 3 for prot

[lucid pendant]

Probably not as good as EV/TD but okay

Good boss damage at least

[exotic spoke]

If you’re talking damage the best answer is to sim your character. It’s hard to sim for dungeons but for raid you can do it

It’s definitely up there.

Also, regarding corruptions in general - it’s really hard to give an answer to the question “is X good for prot?” Without knowing a ton of other information

[fallen violet]

I have rank 2 EV but it maybe does 2-3 mil damage threw out an entire dungeon

[exotic spoke]

I mean, again, the best answer is to sim yourself. When you’re talking pure damage - simming is the best option. I have no idea how you pull or how mind flays damage is offhand.

[mortal brook]

its not better than TD/EV even single target, even high ilvl, dps per corruption.

https://bloodmallet.com/index.html#warrior_protection?data_view=corruptions&repr=dps_corruption_rating

[fallen violet]

Ahh thank you

[sick sentinel]

I know that EV was recently nerfed but did TD get by unscathed in today's maintenance?

[exotic spoke]

The kicker is dps per corruption though too. Wasn’t mind flat / GW one of the better dps per corruptions?

[inland mesa]

@analog zinc In the damage log as to why you died - you got hit hard by the add cast, it's proximity and hurts more if you're actively tanking the boss, so don't be so close

[modern brook]

@sick sentinel the notes looked mostly pvp centric so unless it was toned down without mention, id say yeah td still the same

[analog zinc]

i wasnt close

@inland mesa

[sick sentinel]

Beauty, thanks

[inland mesa]

how many shadow damage stacks were you at then, that initial cast shouldn't hit you for 560k

[mortal brook]

TD still the same

[inland mesa]

on mythic it hits me for 150k...so 560k something is wrong

[mortal brook]

Shadow tank stacks

For more shadow dmg

[wispy briar]

Soemeone can help me how I can put damage from spell recfection on details?

[exotic spoke]

There’s a weak aura for that

But it only effects yours

[wispy briar]

do you have the link?

[marble cipher]

https://wago.io/IwPukH70B

Took me 3s to google

[hushed cobalt]

O that's something I didn't know I needed but I need

[winged grail]

You probably don't want this weak aura

[vapid ibex]

anyone have a weakaura for the rank 12 cloak proc?

[winged grail]

You'll be screaming at your party each time they interrupt

😄

[hushed cobalt]

Already do

I usually call out "I got next 2" even if I can only get one

[jolly thistle]

the best reflectable spells aren’t kickable anyway

[modern brook]

lol what a sentence

[exotic spoke]

When they kick on boss three in shrine I cry on the inside

[sterile mantle]

Felllow prot warriors.....lend me you brains!!!

would the haste loss be worth the corruption?

[hushed cobalt]

Yes

[exotic spoke]

The Ilvl alone would be worth the haste loss

[modern brook]

this screen shot hurts my eyes

[exotic spoke]

Also what bull said

[sterile mantle]

thats waht i was thinking....just wanted to bounce it off my fellow warriors

[modern brook]

more stats is the best stat

[sterile mantle]

quality? or the fact that im the right faction

[hushed cobalt]

The crit buff is up 90-95+% of there dungeon

[exotic spoke]

That it’s not cropped

[modern brook]

It looks like you did your best to represent wow in 12 pixels

[sterile mantle]

lol it is cropped

[modern brook]

wtf are you using for these screens hots

[sterile mantle]

default screen shot

[modern brook]

windows + shift + S

lemme change ur life

[hushed cobalt]

preach

[sterile mantle]

i usually us snip it but was lazy this time

[modern brook]

window sshift s, Ctrl v into chat

dont even need to open shit

this is 2020 baby

[hushed cobalt]

Exception is a funky interaction with onenote2016

[sterile mantle]

better? lol

[exotic spoke]

Like, I guess what we’re saying, is in this case - just a snip of the items (since corruption is a non issue) is all that’s needed

It’s pretty bad to look at this on mobile

[modern brook]

well now it just looks like ur playing on 1200x800

but yeah better

[high sierra]

guys I have heed my call x2, 3rd choice is 3rd hmc or gutripper, what should I take?

somebody told me gutripper was better anyway

[modern brook]

how did you get 3 azerite pieces with no stat-based- inner ring

HMC for dungeons, gut ripper for raid, most likely

Double check your pieces though that sounds highly unlikely

both are DPS only so feel free to sim it

[high sierra]

okay thanks i'll sim it just in case but I guess it's gonna be hmc since I only do dungeons

[wooden radish]

@ionic fern can you unban 🥑 so we can have more of this ?

[inland mesa]

o.O

[exotic spoke]

Please don’t - he doesn’t deserve the time of day lol

[undone sun]

personally i feel like that's up to whoever banned

and that would be macro

[wooden radish]

@short swan hi

smh not banned in skyhold

[short swan]

D:

@undone sun remember that time

when I made that discord joke

[undone sun]

no

[short swan]

fun times

[exotic spoke]

Hi Bolencia

[ionic fern]

😮

Bolencia actually in Skyhold. 👀

[exotic spoke]

Lol

[wooden radish]

show the owner of HoW some respect

right @short swan

[short swan]

yeah I lowkey run that place

[ionic fern]

That's why i'm so humble there.

[short swan]

nah fuck being humble

you gotta tell everyone to fuck off

everywhere

[exotic spoke]

Just be the most humble mother fucker around

And make sure everyone knows it

[dire blade]

Is there a cap on haste where it catches up to the GCD? I'm at 55% now with into the fray x4

[short swan]

:hastecap:

where's nitro when u need it

[dire blade]

I did a quick check of pinned posts and Google search of some forums but no luck yet

[wooden radish]

You can’t use external emotes here

Cuz reasons

[elder berry]

i believe I had seens osmeone say before that there is but is an unrelaistic number to reach

[lucid pendant]

Got that dps trinket boiz

[dire blade]

So just keep stacking then? Don't have to tell me twice

[lucid pendant]

The bike one 😂

Seems great for m+, Sims well

[modern brook]

U dont drop ilvl for haste

[undone sun]

@dire blade 100% is gcd

but no cap to worry about

[dire blade]

@undone sun thanks for info!

[sullen valve]

@warm plinth wowA everyday baby. Gotta use it... Maybe you get ot use it for other warrior specs soon 👀

[dark lark]

harpooner's plate cuirass...thanks blizzard

[nimble brook]

I got the same thing this morning from rolling

feels bad

[tame garden]

Rolling is a trap

And you guys fell for it 😦

[exotic spoke]

I roll for first and then save up

[dark lark]

not the first time i fell for a trap

wait wut

[nimble brook]

I'm just rolling the 3 pieces till I have 475 in all slots

[tame garden]

😏

[nimble brook]

then saving

[tame garden]

Saving on both my chars 😴

[nimble brook]

I don't raid so only way to get the extra str/stam/armor

[tame garden]

See you in 2 months

[exotic spoke]

Yeah pretty much. Having 1 piece I want feels and

Bad*

[tame garden]

Yeah I'd prob roll if I didnt raid

But the raid azerite is just soooooo good this tier

[nimble brook]

yeah good trinks too. don't have the time this tier unfortunately

[bitter cape]

Should I be using Anima as a warrior tank? Pretty undergeared atm ilvl 452 and 665k hp

[tame garden]

No

The only place for anima is islands

[bitter cape]

Ahhh okay

I noticed most geared warriors don't but wasnt sure about relatively undergeared

Essnetially its' vision, conflict, then if you need one of the corruption essences and the 4th would be a flex like nullifcation etc?

[tame garden]

Pretty much yeah. Visions major then pick from conflict/sphere/lucid/aegis + 1 corruption resist if needed

[sick sentinel]

Hey speg

[tame garden]

😳

[analog zinc]

man what happened to my parses

[tame garden]

Rip

[analog zinc]

compared to pre-nerf

cries in echoing void

[spiral pawn]

How do y’all get gear? I feel like I’ve been hard stuck at 445 for a month now.

[ionic fern]

Doing m+ gives you 465. 👀

[sick sentinel]

Mythic raiding 🙃

[analog zinc]

i love how my dmg has gone up / stayed the same

& my parses have just fallen so damn much

[spiral pawn]

Can’t find a single group that’ll want to take me on for mythic +

[tame garden]

Make your own

You are the tank

Lead the plebs

[spiral pawn]

Where can I learn routes

For higher keys

[undone sun]

doing lower keys

[karmic onyx]

https://raider.io/news?tag=weekly-route&utm_source=discord&utm_medium=notification

[spiral pawn]

Thank you

[sweet summit]

Weekly routes alive again?

[karmic onyx]

Tried to link the weekly-route page

Yeah

[sweet summit]

Cool

[tame garden]

This is a good guideline but like thyme said work your way up from lower keys and figure out what pulls work for you

Being able to make your own routes is valuable

Can tailor to your comp

[undone sun]

experience is the best way to learn

[spiral pawn]

I just want that sweet sweet loot

[sick sentinel]

Have a bit of a hard decision. 460 corrupted pants with 1275 haste proc, or 470 socketed pants. I know ilvl > all. But thats a bit of haste

[short swan]

@sullen valve wowanalyzer sucks

[sullen valve]

What

@ionic fern help i need someone banned

But why do you say that sir?

[quartz mist]

worth using ?

[sweet summit]

For raid, depends on what boss and
For m+, depends on what else you have

[quartz mist]

imma just replace this 450 , yolo

[ionic fern]

Boli is like a professional bully @sullen valve

[sullen valve]

He bullies me in pally discord too

🦗

[short swan]

it just does

[prisma crane]

sphere or CnS major for necrotic?

[warm plinth]

Not sure if memeing or this is a legit question 😬

[sweet summit]

Sphere minor 📈
Sphere major 📉

[warm plinth]

In case it's a legit question, the answer is neither.

[exotic spoke]

CnS major at high keys has value. But like High keys

As an alternative to lucid in some situations

[prisma crane]

but i feel like lucid is largely pointless on necrotic

well

the leech part that is

[sweet summit]

The leech part is not why you take lucid major

Sure, its nice

[prisma crane]

i understand the power with AM as well

but the leech is definitely a way to stay alive

i was just looking through a few of the top io warriors and it's a mix of vision, CnS, Lucid, and one with Sphere for major

[sweet summit]

Dont need leech when you have 40 sec of avatar and crit block everything

[broken stratus]

how big is leech in M+? i can have 13%

[undone sun]

it's a non-factor

[sweet summit]

Nice to have but dont drop ilvl or haste for it tbh

[warm plinth]

And unless you just don't have an alternative, don't plan for it in your corruption budget either

Like I wouldn't go over 40 to get leech, but I would to get TD

[exotic spoke]

@prisma crane what level keys are you doing?

And horde or alliance

[prisma crane]

not high enough where it should matter, but with subpar healers and dps it might as well be a high key

15-16 range

[exotic spoke]

Visions then

Imo

[prisma crane]

i hate having something unreliable

[sweet summit]

VoP major pumps

[exotic spoke]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[prisma crane]

it's what i've been using, dont get me wrong

it's just eh

where at least CnS i can kite if i have to, Lucid is a great oh shit, or preplan even

and sphere seems shit-ish, but necrotic without others that can help me kite sounds not that bad

[exotic spoke]

You can kite even if you’re not using sphere or CnS or lucid

AoE stun, leap = profit

[warm plinth]

Yeah, helps that you can take like

2-3x the stacks of other tanks

Before you have to kite

[prisma crane]

sure, til your healer is out of range and bitches cuz you're too far out

[exotic spoke]

If you have that many stacks that you need to kite a healer isn’t gonna do shit

[prisma crane]

plus, run with melee and then they're chasing the whole time

root keeps em still

[exotic spoke]

I get to 35 or so and my healer shifts / remains in kitty and just ignores healing me til they drop

[sweet summit]

Any slow >=30% on the mobs will make the root not work

[exotic spoke]

The melee can slow them / use their mobility. Plus the slow from thunderclap existing or sphere minor

[warm plinth]

If you use Sphere minor, there's no point in the C&S major though tbf

Since the root won't work

As Rosjen said

[sweet summit]

^

[prisma crane]

as in just doesnt root period? that's stupid

[exotic spoke]

Yeah I’m just say sphere minor instead of either

[sweet summit]

Yes
No

Its not stupid

[warm plinth]

Yeah, it won't work if there's a 30% or stronger snare on the target, whether from Sphere or Frost Mage slow (Blizzard/Orb), or whatever

If you're doing high keys on necro then C&S is good because it makes it so you can kite without really kiting, and you get that juicy doubled vers to help with big packs

But at 15/16 it's really not necessary

[vestal edge]

Should I keep rolling prot on my weekly chest until I get a 475 shield or just go fury to avoid shit trinks? I was rolling prot In the beginning of the tier and got 3 one handed weapons in a row and no shield

[sweet summit]

You have 465 shield?

[exotic spoke]

I’d keep it prot until you get a 475 shield

[warm plinth]

Same

[vestal edge]

I have a baseline 460 illgynoth shield

No socket or corruption or nothing

[modern brook]

If u mythic raid swap now imo

Ur way more likely to get a garbo trinket from the box than a god shield

But if u dont raid its ur only source of god shields

[vestal edge]

I’ve only killed first 3 on mythic idk how hard or realistic Illgyntoh is on mythic

[sweet summit]

Is ilgy the first boss to drop a shield this tier?

[vestal edge]

He’s the only boss that drops a strength shield

Idk about caster shields

[prisma crane]

trash shield

the boe

[sweet summit]

Isnt str and int shared on gear?

[prisma crane]

i feel like they arent consistent with it

sometimes it is though

[sweet summit]

Ah

[exotic spoke]

BoE shield and Ilgy - only options for shield this tier

[nova rover]

Hey guys, ineffable truth absolute garbage and time to clense the piece?

[exotic spoke]

In raid

[vestal edge]

Usually they’ll have the cool looking big shield be the strength one and then they’ll have some ugly ass one that is either just int or both

[warm plinth]

It's better than nothing but most other things are better than it @nova rover

[exotic spoke]

If you can avoid cleansing any unique corruption I would.

[vestal edge]

But yeah looks Like just illy g and I guess the boe but I’ve never seen it drop or anything

[nova rover]

Well if I equip`all 3 items atm I have 45 corruption

[exotic spoke]

Personally I kinda want to play with ineffable truth and look at it - but it’s probably not great

[prisma crane]

thats how i feel about it

[nova rover]

I have echoing void and the haste one

[vestal edge]

Just feel like twilight dev or any infinite star or tendril will probably out perform it

Maybe not ev depending on rank idk

[prisma crane]

interestingly truth stacks lol

[vestal edge]

Does it just pick one random ability you have on cd or just bump everything

[warm plinth]

The one that does like % CDR is everything that's currently on CD

But the other one is just a random ability that's got a CD I think?

[vestal edge]

Might be good idk I guess prot does juice a lot of cool downs with AM

[warm plinth]

Yeah but it has a shit proc rate

So you're getting like...5% CD reduction or something, if that

[vestal edge]

Yeah I’d rather just take something that does damage lol

Ugh I hope I get shield this week it took me multiple weeks just to get the Illy g shield with rerolls and it didn’t even drop for me I got it from the off tank

[warm plinth]

Well, I hope you get it. I hope you have the opposite luck as me

[vestal edge]

Watch me get like sporepods with twilight dev on it lmao

[nova rover]

yea I have the boe shield but waiting to get into heroic

[warm plinth]

Can't get corruption on a trinket :p

[vestal edge]

Oh really

I know you can on rings so I just assumed

[warm plinth]

Yeah, if you get a trinket from cache it won't be corrupted

[vestal edge]

Is boe shield same model or?

I haven’t seen it at all didn’t even know there was one

[nova rover]

Its an eyeball in the middle

[tropic shell]

is infinite stars any good for someone who doesnt raid? just got a 470 shield with r3 stars from my cache

[warm plinth]

Not particularly. It falls off a lot in AoE. But might be better than what you have now.

[tropic shell]

i have r1 TD and a r2 TD atm

[warm plinth]

Oh, yeah it's probably a cleanse then

[tropic shell]

that was my assumption, just thought id check with the experts 😉 thanks

[warm plinth]

Unless you already have a 470/475 shield and can hang on to it just in case

[tropic shell]

nah, i had a 440 previously

so pumped for a big upgrade 😄

[warm plinth]

Yeah for sure. I'd cleanse it personally then if you're never gonna raid.

[tame garden]

Grats! That's huge

[warm plinth]

Yeah for sure. I'd cleanse it personally then if you're never gonna raid.

[drifting lotus]

so quiet 😦

[compact matrix]

Everyone simming their new lewts

[drifting lotus]

i guess

[elder berry]

give it another hour or 2 and it will likely get more active

[drifting lotus]

how important are sims for prot?

[undone sun]

As important as it is for any class

Not necessary but a useful tool

It's not going to help you survive as a tank, because you can't sim survival but it'll help you get closer to your maximized damage output with your current options

@drifting lotus

[dire blade]

Got TD R3 on a ring from world boss today. Dmg went up to 35k DPS... So much fun and rng in this crap

[sick sentinel]

Lucid loses some value this week. Just take cns major and get a pally. Call your bop and kite

[exotic spoke]

honestly not worth in the keys he’s doing

Vision is better for that level

Assuming you’re going back - several hours to that question

[sterile peak]

should i cleanse searing flames to use mind flay rank 3?

[nimble brook]

got an IS2 from cache this week. is it worth to keep it for tyrannical weeks? currently I run TD3 + EV2 with 58 corruption

I only run m+

[warm plinth]

Not likely. TD3 will still be way more damage overall

[nimble brook]

yeah I'm tempted to cleanse cause it's a 20 ilvl upgrade on my current bracer

but idk if I'll regret it

when I may be able to use it later down in the road when we can afford to equip more corruption

[strong forum]

Keep it

EV t2 is about 3.5k dps

Is t2 is about same in keys

But higher in raid

If you get lucky

[nimble brook]

I don't raid which is why I have this dilemma lol

[cosmic cape]

does the fusion hacker welding weapon out perform equal ilvl weapons? i have 470 fusion hacker and 470 sword off second to last mech boss

[strong forum]

For ST yes

For aoe not so much

[cosmic cape]

eh st i have a r3 infinite stars sword so id just use that

[strong forum]

Ye

[round linden]

Is vision of perfection still the best major for raiding, or only M+?

[empty nacelle]

yo when spell reflecting the toxic monstrosity in junkyard, do you just cast it and stand in the aoe?

[ruby nexus]

that's what i did @empty nacelle

[sharp night]

yeah, as long as you don't run out -> back in

[sick sentinel]

Depends on the fight for VoP major

[cosmic cape]

Is Cn

is CnS minor still worth using at r2

[sick sentinel]

Meh

What else do you have

[sharp night]

it's not bad depending on your other choices but it's not as good as r3

[round linden]

You guys use Devastator in raid over Booming Voice? Ik the wowhead guide says so but I feel like I miss out on that emergency rage from booming voice

[cosmic cape]

have everything r3 except touch, cns, sphere, and ripple

also is formless void the new major for big tank damage? and if so whats the essence to copy

[sick sentinel]

You can use devastator in raid to increase your single target damage

[sharp night]

FV is big damage if you steal iris but you have to adjust your playstyle to not die

you can't block dodge or parry while channeling it

[high crater]

Brace for Impact or Iron fortress for M+?

[sharp night]

generally not worth it io

[cosmic cape]

is iris really the big damage one to steal? i assumed it would be new breath

[sharp night]

why would you steal breath

you only get to use it once

unless you manage to land a killing blow with it

[dire blade]

Does the subroutine overclock card fall from mythic+ chests? I've run ALOT of workshop and never seen it. Still using a 430 heroic one

[sharp night]

no

cards do not drop in m+

you'll never upgrade it, replace it with higher ilvl trinkets

[cosmic cape]

well i assumed that you could steal breath and use it at a target above 80 percent to get the cd reduced

[sharp night]

it will fade before you can use it again

you only get to keep breath for 15 seconds and the cd when reduced is also 15 sec

so you wouldn't get a second use in

[dire blade]

@sharp night thanks! Been holding out for awhile now

[cosmic cape]

cant u just steal it again?

[sharp night]

after the cd is up, sure

but the cd is 30% longer than the default cd

you don't get the reduced cd on FV from using breath

so it'd be steal-> use breath, it expires and turns back into FV, goes on cd for 1 min

whereas with iris you steal, use it, then it turns back into FV and goes on cd for 2 min

[cosmic cape]

yeah i havent played with it at all idk

i guess iris is the play

[sharp night]

even if it somehow magically gave you the reduced cd

so you could steal it every 20 sec

[cosmic cape]

im confused how iris is still better tho on ST

[sharp night]

that's a cast time and another global spent

on an ability you get to use once

because it hits for like 150k or whatever

you wouldn't be running FV for ST anyway

just use your own crucible

FV is for stealing beam in aoe and is still decent in ST

[cosmic cape]

so crucible for st and iris steal for aoe

[sharp night]

but again, you have to change your playstyle to work around it

and you lose the extra uptime from vop so you're less tanky overall

[cosmic cape]

If i just go into the wrathion room to look at masks and come back out ill get my vessel back right?

[craggy harness]

you never spent it

until you talk to wrath inside the room

[cosmic cape]

its annoying tho it makes u have a vessel just to enter super confusing

[craggy harness]

i don't actually remember if you need one

lol

[cosmic cape]

u do

if u just try to enter the first room it says it requires a vessel

but i just wanna hop in there to turn in my mask quest

[craggy harness]

yeah, it isn't spent by that point in time

so you have no worries, as long as you use the door to go back to heart

[Wrathion just looks at you disgust]

[broken stratus]

does anyone have a weakaura that tracks spirit breaker cd?

[vestal edge]

do you guys use any defensive trinket or anything for m wrathions second breath or should i just go full dmg

mythic

[sharp night]

the cd is 15 sec from when he successfully casts it so you can make a WA for it in like 5 seconds

just trigger -> spellcast success -> spirit breaker, 15 sec timer

[hallow phoenix]

Paddens I just spell reflect the second one

[vestal edge]

really hm

just usually the second one lines up with the incineration and i get pieced for that

what talents @hallow phoenix ?

[hallow phoenix]

Standard with devastator for the damages

You can last stand too if breath overlaps with incinerate

Or demo shout both breaths with DC

[vestal edge]

Maybe never surrender tho since theres alot of magic damage? and ive been using crackling thunder bc im pretty good with the flight run thing and i can cover more spikes with it

[undone sun]

never never surrender

[vestal edge]

Yeah i almost never use it

[hallow phoenix]

What ilvl are you

Second breath +incinerate chunks but it shouldn't kill you through last stans/demo +SR

There's always shield wall too if you aren't topped off

[vestal edge]

nah it dont kill me but it scares my healers lol

im 466 right now

[hallow phoenix]

Normal for them to be scared

But there's a swap right after so they shouldn't worry

[vestal edge]

yeah i notice if u demo as the first breath is casting it will cover both

[hallow phoenix]

Yep :)

I'm pretty sure you can have last stand up for each ground phase too

The extra health definitely helps

[grand drum]

does ineffible truth reduce cd's for things like thunderclap and shield slam?

[sharp night]

all class abilities

[errant oriole]

so i just want to say .... PROT WARRIORS ROCK!

[grand drum]

nice so if it procs in avatar i can clap every gcd

[errant oriole]

just had to say that sorry lol

[sharp night]

uh

only if you have two ineffable truths

otherwise you'd be waiting a partial gcd between every tc

[grand drum]

dang, i only have a rank 1. with lucky haste procs its close to every gcd

[sharp night]

nah that isn't how it works because your gcd also scales

with the haste

until you have 100% haste

the cd is always exactly 2 gcds regardless of your haste unless you're over 100%

with avatar up

one copy of t2 ineffable would bring it to 1.3 gcds, 2 copies at 100% cdr would make it every gcd

a copy of t1 only brings it to ~1.5gcds

[quartz mist]

formless void or strength of the warden hmm

[hallow phoenix]

Context?

In raid use void, in m+ use warden unless someone is proccing void for you often enough

[wooden radish]

@warm plinth https://imgur.com/gallery/fnzRl28

[warm plinth]

Dawww

[quartz mist]

weapon off wrathion , we just cleansing that ?

[hallow phoenix]

100% depends on your current weapon and your possible corruption setups

Im not cleansing mine when i get it

[quartz mist]

got all dog shit except infinite stars

and haste %

[hallow phoenix]

If you can fit the corruption budget theres no reason to cleanse

otherwise yeah searing breath isnt that great

[quartz mist]

sittin on 23 total corruption

[hallow phoenix]

I would sim, but im willing to bet breath + one of your other corruptions would be better than stars + haste %

But again, sim will be the only thing that can tell you

[prisma crane]

if you ever pvp whatsoever i'd keep the stars

[quartz mist]

i do pvp as tank yeah

[prisma crane]

and unless you're just sitting on a TD and not using it, IS is still probably decent in M+, esp tyrannical weeks

it's just obviously outclassed by more aoe focused ones

[karmic onyx]

Loot so good I dont know what to do =(

[rose furnace]

Just got a 460 Lingering Sporepods while trying to get a shield

any good?

[warm plinth]

[rose furnace]

literal garbage

into the scrapper it goes

[nimble brook]

I got a 465 sporepod last night

just keeping it for in bag ilvl

lol

[hallow phoenix]

good-ish in pvp

not sure if it got nerfed with all the other healing trinkets tho

[nimble brook]

yeah it was nerfed

[rose furnace]

Got nerfed hard

[quartz mist]

we taking heart of darkness anywhere in traits or hard no

[warm plinth]

Heart is BiS aside from Bastion x3 and DC x1 in M+

[quartz mist]

kk had a tie up between heart of darkness or iron fortress

[warm plinth]

If your shield is low ilevel, then IF is probably a good choice to kinda cover the gap

But yeah, Heart is really good

[quartz mist]

465 atm

[warm plinth]

Yeah I think heart would be fine then

[cold rover]

you guys got any tips as prot for shadow of zul on fortified weeks? it's the only mob that i feel helpless against no matter what healer i'm playing with

[warm plinth]

rotate CDs/externals. If all hope seems lost, run

[quartz mist]

just picked this beauty up. worth selling ? I have a 465 shield atm

500K

[warm plinth]

Not bad. I'm not sure what it'd be worth but I'm sure it'd sell fairly easily at the right price.

[quartz mist]

def prob great for healers

aka pally

or shamdad

ill give it a shot , doesnt mean much to me for corruption for 5 ilvls

[warm plinth]

It's not terrible for prot either. Just would be replaced quickly by higher ilevel shield

[karmic onyx]

what do i do, ii already have TD3 on a ring. this is too much corrupt

[warm plinth]

Well

First of all I hate you

Second of all, how much corruption are you at with both, after cloak?

[karmic onyx]

58 😦

[foggy fractal]

How does one get corrupted gear.

[warm plinth]

Eh I mean

[quartz mist]

RNJESUS

[warm plinth]

Some people play with that much in dungeons lol

[foggy fractal]

14/18 of my corrupted pieces are versatility procs or % increase.

[warm plinth]

Some corruption is better than no corruption 🤷

[foggy fractal]

[warm plinth]

If it makes you feel any better, I probably have like

less than 1/3 of that number of corrupted pieces

[sick sentinel]

I have 2 corruptions

I only use 1

I do 90k average in jy 💯

hey guys! new war here, im looking for any and all tips yall can give me on becoming a better tank. ie what essences i could use or addons rotations etc.. any and all tips will be much appreciated!

[quartz mist]

top right corner in the pinned messages got some helpful guides ! 😄

[foggy fractal]

Prot warrior is king.

Sadly my guild doesn't need a tank so I'm relegated to fury.

[quartz mist]

I switched from fury long ago

Love prot now

[sick sentinel]

super quick question

so i want 3 bastion of might 1 deafening crash

but then waht

what*

[final mist]

Doesn’t really matter, pick your preference

Heart of Darkness is good, any of the block ones are pretty good, can’t really go wrong with the last two traits, it mostly depends on what you’re doing

[lusty grotto]

oh man

its tuesday

time to check my chest of disappointment for the first time since last season

uhhh....

i guess that goes into the grinder

[warm plinth]

Why's that

[lusty grotto]

twilight devastation when

[warm plinth]

What do you have now for corruption?

[lusty grotto]

crap

[warm plinth]

Then why would that go into the grinder ya weirdo

[lusty grotto]

cause

its not TD

xD

how many ilvls are corruptions worth anyhow

[warm plinth]

Not sure you can really put a hard number on that

[lusty grotto]

got void ritual bracer

440 tho

and non corruption 460 bracers

[warm plinth]

What tier of VR?

[lusty grotto]

i think its tier 1

yeah

it is

grinder?

[warm plinth]

460 probably

[lusty grotto]

alright alright

can banded even have corruption

ah banded was the old armor

[sick sentinel]

Got me a t3 VR today😎

[hushed cobalt]

oooo me too! on booties

[sick sentinel]

i460 dragonscale with socket or i465 rezan's eye no socket

[tame garden]

dragonscale

[sick sentinel]

ty!

[drifting lotus]

Is VR good for prot?

[mortal brook]

middle of the pack

[drifting lotus]

Is VR good for anyone?

[sick sentinel]

Middle of pack

[west galleon]

vr is very good for dps

[sick sentinel]

Not as good as td, gushing, or mindflay. thus middle of pack

is the corrupted weapon off of wraith any good?

Decent but not the best

Ud cleanse if u had better corruptions

not worth the 30 corruption then i assume

gotcha

[west galleon]

i said for dps 🤔

since he said "for anyone"

[sick sentinel]

Yes i was referring to dps

[west galleon]

td is only better in aoe

[sick sentinel]

Thank u for clarifying

[west galleon]

and in aoe, vr is better than severe and wound

better than mindflay* and wound i mean

[drifting lotus]

Mmm. Not sure if

[brisk kettle]

How bad is a 475 Harpooner's Plate Curiass for M+

[runic pasture]

is the trinket off N'zoth bis?

[hallow phoenix]

475 faralos with socket finally 😄

can replace EV rank 1 in my m+ setup

[worthy relic]

Did they fix the instakill spellreflect on the tentacles eyes for the blob miniboss on m+?

[maiden ravine]

4 mask attempt time

nope

can't burst rexxar

guess slow burn next time

started with full orb

lost 1500 sanity

[mortal brook]

heck

can game the gift to proc on 1st piggy death tbh

[wide slate]

TD/EV is based off current hp not max hp right?

[rose furnace]

I almost got my set together

I know I want 3 BoM but what other traits do I want specifically for M+

And am I just putting haste everywhere in terms of gems/enchants

[maiden ravine]

@mortal brook Probably what I need to do when I 5 mask

I am terrified to 5 mask

[rose furnace]

5 mask was ez

I did it as fury

[twilit crater]

yo anyone know whats better. I have a 480 helmet with no bastion of might gives me huge stat increase overall or should i wear my 460 helmet with bastion on it? with the 460 helmet ill have 3 bastions of might

[distant crystal]

480

don't drop ilvl except to get your first dc

[twilit crater]

with the 480 helmet i have 2 DC and 2 bastion

[maiden ravine]

5 mask can be easy if you're good. I make no promises I'm good

[left hatch]

DC not really worth stacking

only the damage stacks and theres better options for that

[twilit crater]

yeah i dont want to stack it but the 480 piece gives me like 25k hp inscrease

[left hatch]

no like heart of darkness or anything

as an alternative

[twilit crater]

i have shoulders from skitra with bastion and heart of darkness

[maiden ravine]

it's actually not the passive sanity drain that gets me. Literally the only thing in a 5 mask that'll ruin my run is Rexxar I think

[warm plinth]

Eh, there's a few dangerous mobs in Org that you might not think about until you get to 4/5 masks

[maiden ravine]

You can fear the boars away and then you can be out of range of the quills I learned

Oh I'm never doing Bwemba again, that buff isn't worth facing an instant cast poly with scorched feet

[warm plinth]

Bwemba?

[maiden ravine]

the buff boss in valley of spirits

[warm plinth]

Ah

[maiden ravine]

Bemba, some B name

[warm plinth]

I only do the one in the drag

In the xmog building

[maiden ravine]

oh, I haven't seen that one yet

this last run was Gamon and Bwemba

[warm plinth]

Oh I thought they were on a weekly rotation; are they not?

[distant crystal]

nah random each run

[warm plinth]

Oh okay

I usually don't pay attention to them tbh

Because they aren't really necessary

[distant crystal]

they're p nice

and the potions

are huuuge

[warm plinth]

Yeah I do get the potions when I see them, though I usually ignore everything but the +100 potion

Since I don't want to be worrying about when the others are gonna wear off

[distant crystal]

ya

the healing one is kinda nice if you're on a class that's not tanky

[opal condor]

do you guys like crucible or vop for your major for plus?

[plush prism]

Hey y'all, how much corruption do you think is acceptable to have on?

[mortal brook]

vop for m+ is the default

39 is perfectly safe, going higher is a matter of comfort between you and your healer

did my heroic reclear with 93. whatevz

[plush prism]

lmfao

i just got a 470 belt with rank 3 infinite stars

so i wanna work that boi in

[ionic fern]

👀

[plush prism]

my gloves also have +12% haste, which is nice

but i could cleanse those to be 39 or under

[mortal brook]

i wouldnt cleanse. can throw on an alternate until resist is high enough, use a resist minor, etc

[ionic fern]

^

[mortal brook]

or just eat the THings

spell reflect works

[inland silo]

How is expedient defensively? I got two mythic boe shields tonight. One with t2 expedient and one with t2 ev

[ionic fern]

IS3 is still bis in pure single target..granted there's not a lot of that in the current raid but still.

[inland silo]

trying to decide which one to keep

[mortal brook]

should be able to sim for that

[ionic fern]

"Defensively".

No, you can not sim defensively.

[mortal brook]

ah qualifier

nope, cant tell you anything defensively. expedient gives defensiveness, EV gives zero defensiveness other than killing the other dude better which reduces incoming damage cuz they ded.

apples and oranges

[ionic fern]

The extra haste won't make or break anything in regards to your defensives. 🙂

With ITF and a "nominal" amount of base haste from gear you should already be in a good spot regarding it.

[inland silo]

expedient also looks like decent enough damage to corruption ratio

was leaning towards ev

[ionic fern]

I would do the same.

Take EV, cleanse the other one

[inland silo]

im a poor boy

definitely selling the other

[ionic fern]

👍

[grand flame]

Got the 5 mask run with 2 orbs to spare. Easy week boys 👍

[pallid berry]

yo i got told that people are running lucid? anyone know why

[hallow phoenix]

Y'all think EV rank 1 is worth dropping 30 ilvls on pants?

I think it does 2-3k dps?

[mortal brook]

lucid is for controlled, planned pulls for high mitigation uptime throughout. it can beat out vop on high, planned keys

whats your corruption alternatives?

[hallow phoenix]

I can run EV_1, the 4 sec haste proc rank 1

aaaand wow thats it

I got infinite stars 2 on bracers which do about 5-6% overall in dungeons, but wanna try out 475 faralos

[mortal brook]

should be able to sim against those options. dropping ilvl can be worth but maybe not for an ev1 on 40 ilvls of pants. a TD3 on 60 ilvl wrists tho, v a l u e

[left hatch]

anad on high keys thats like 19-20+

[plush prism]

@grand flame is there any point to doing the full runs?

[mortal brook]

more mementos, higher ilvl loot at the end, sockets and research sooner

[grand flame]

Mementors, the accomplishment, the challenge

[mortal brook]

470 gear

[plush prism]

did you solo?

[grand flame]

Yea solo prot

[plush prism]

oh wow it's 470?

how tough is it? what's your ilvl? and what corruption you got?

[mortal brook]

470 weekly for a 5 mask full. then 465, 460, 455, etc

[shy yoke]

Having 2 rings from Yard (Haste/Mastery) is too much haste as a prot war? They give way too much haste 🤔

[grand flame]

Wearing td3 415 bracers. 468 ilvl using cyclo

[mortal brook]

haste is a good stat

[grand flame]

Crucible major, aegis vision conflict minor

[shy yoke]

Any reasonable % to stop capping haste?

[hallow phoenix]

100%

[grand flame]

Rexxar is really the only hard part. I cheat death on it knocked into a trap, and then got gift proc on first boar which made it free

[hallow phoenix]

and even then its good

[mortal brook]

after 100% it drops off. i wouldnt go past 400% haste at all

[hallow phoenix]

^ casul

probably never tried 600% haste

[shy yoke]

[mortal brook]

600 is SS or TC every global. hot

[plush prism]

would you guys cleanse void ritual 2 to stay under 40 corruption

[hallow phoenix]

do you have to cleanse or do you have an alternate piece

[plush prism]

other is infinite 3 so no way

[hallow phoenix]

just go over 40 its not bad

[mortal brook]

wouldnt cleanse, would just hold on until higher resist, for most everything i have

[grand flame]

I recorded it btw if anyone wanted to check it out lmk

[mortal brook]

never know when they rebalance traits

[plush prism]

yes me!

would love to try it

[mortal brook]

and resist gonna be 135 eventually

[plush prism]

dont have all your essences though

new to prot

[ionic fern]

Void Ritual is actually solid - especially if others are also using it.

Not as good as IS on ST or TD on AoE ofc but still solid.

[hallow phoenix]

I have a VR_3 piece i keep around for when some party members need me as their third

totally worth

[ionic fern]

Also, going over 40 corruptions is not a deal breaker since:
1)SR the Thing from Beyond
2)SR the eye Circle
3)AoE Stun the Thing from Beyond
4)Storm Bolt the Thing from Beyond

We are actually very solid when dealing with corruption negative effects.

[hallow phoenix]

did 58 on m wrathion tonight

felt really easy to manage

[mortal brook]

also

did 73 on wrathion. cascading is a little spicy

[sullen valve]

wowA is about to need a third 😏 a third warrior spec for is void ritual

[lapis topaz]

445 pants with a socket > 460 pants without a socket? (same secondaries)

[sick sentinel]

460

[plush prism]

anyone done Mythic EP with like 460+ ilvl yet? I never did it as I didnt play that tier but I wanna run for the trinket

[distant crystal]

i wonder if ppl are 1phasing ashvane yet

[mental scarab]

Didnt they alrdy do that? With loyal to the end trat

Trait

[distant crystal]

well that's special cheese but yeah prob

[solemn kelp]

Does SB blocks prevent necrotic stacking?

[maiden ravine]

I suck so much at my druid haha

[ebon hound]

@solemn kelp no, blocks only mitigate part of incoming damage

Parries prevent necrotic from applying 👍

[solemn kelp]

ah

ty, 27% parry

[ebon hound]

gotta pump those numbers up

[maiden ravine]

2 more runs at least for rank 10 cloak

[solemn kelp]

more CR it would seem

CS*

[maiden ravine]

My druid needs some good corruption

[noble ingot]

What would be the best prot warr race on alliance side?

Dwarf?

[zealous ore]

Kul Tiran is good

Is there a good overview of essence usage for keys?

[maiden ravine]

dwarf and dark iron are great for self cleanse

night elf has meld

[strong forum]

Both dwarfs and nelf are miles ahead of the others ye

[zealous ore]

Nelf for keys is big

[strong forum]

But awakened I'd say dwarf is better

Than nelf cuz you hardly have meld skips available

[maiden ravine]

my warrior is gnome and I don't give a damn

[hallow phoenix]

Gnome for those pesky crabs in tol dagor amirite

[maiden ravine]

bleh, full clear on my druid, 445.... ineffable truth booths

trash

does anyone know how ineffable truth stacks if you use more than one?

[noble ingot]

But how relevant are nelf skips if your group isnt all nelf or druid/rogue?

And for KT, my brush it off racial doesnt heal shit since IP prevent so much dmg, so I guess its only the 1% versa which makes it strong?

[maiden ravine]

NOOOO

GEYARAH YOU ASS

I'm done after that

I start casting an orb and she charges in

argh

[hallow phoenix]

Dwarf is definitely the strongest

[maiden ravine]

wasted vessel

[cedar root]

how many haste and versa in % ? for mm+ ?

[sweet summit]

As much as your highest item level gear allow you to have :)

[sharp night]

@maiden ravine it just adds together

[cedar root]

and 3 bastion is more important ? or i can put 1 part azerit 480 and remove part 465 but i remove too 1 bastion

[maiden ravine]

so 100% CD reduction for 10s?

[sweet summit]

Ilvl is more important than BoM

[cedar root]

and in azerit neck ? i play major vop , minor nullification , conflict and strength of warden . it's viable ?

[left hatch]

null isn't in M+

outside of workshop

and str of the warden is very weak

formless is better unless your entire group runs VoP so it never procs

and in place of Null, running lucid or sphere of suprresion are better

[jolly thistle]

Formless isn’t good in m+ unless your healer runs CoF

[left hatch]

untrue

even if your'e only getting like 30% uptime on formless

its better than strenght

[cedar root]

so major vop , minor lucid , conflic and ?

[left hatch]

if you need corruption resistance Formless, but if your group is running passives or don't stagger then str

if you don't need corruption resistance sphere

[jolly thistle]

You won’t get 30% uptime if all your dps pop cds at the same time

[left hatch]

hence saying not staggering

[cedar root]

ok ty guys

[distant crystal]

i wonder

if the healer is running formless major and they steal someone's meme beam

does it proc your minor when they steal + when they use?

🤔

[sweet summit]

[dark helm]

wait did you say you dont run null in M+ outsidef workshop? lol

[sweet summit]

Nah

[dark helm]

nah referring to what morrison said

[sweet summit]

Yea, nah

You could, since you can trigget it off the eye of corruption in all dungeons. But im not

[left hatch]

yes i did

[zealous ore]

You pretty much always run null

[left hatch]

its lackluster compared to the other options

no you don't lol

[zealous ore]

Ok

[dark helm]

no you always run null haha

[left hatch]

why would you?

[zealous ore]

Becuase it's the best anti magic dmg tool?

[left hatch]

yet dungeons are 70+% phys 🤔

[zealous ore]

And magic damage is generally the thing that kills you

Ok but you have insane phys mit because you're playing prot

[left hatch]

and CnS mitigates more magic damage than null does lul

[zealous ore]

Yeah so you run both?

[sweet summit]

Almost all magic damage can be prevented

[left hatch]

and give up lucid?

[sweet summit]

So no need

[left hatch]

^

[sweet summit]

Null wont save you

[zealous ore]

most high runs use null minor

[left hatch]

mmmm depends on the dungeon but not really lol

[dark helm]

besides the extra dmg from null exploding is giga

[left hatch]

no its not

[zealous ore]

This is not an argument, you can go look

right now

[left hatch]

it gets outscaled in 2_ targets

[dark helm]

you'd only really not run null on KR

[zealous ore]

They do

[sweet summit]

Naowh is high runner ans he uses siphoning. Doesnt mean its optimal

[left hatch]

Freehold?

[dark helm]

FH and KR are like only 2 dungeons you can get away not using it

[left hatch]

i mean you can argue all you want but the big brains here have time and again talked about how null is inferior

[zealous ore]

@sweet summit Sure, ultimately it always depends on what pulls you're doing, your setup, your comp. But saying you never run null is fake news

[left hatch]

saying its needed is a flat out lie

[sweet summit]

You could, since you can trigget it off the eye of corruption in all dungeons. But im not

I didnt say that

[left hatch]

even saying its optimal is a lie

[zealous ore]

But it is pretty much the best anti magic tool

[left hatch]

i mean no....

[sweet summit]

Not really

[zealous ore]

Ok

[left hatch]

verse is

[zealous ore]

That's like

rly fucking hard to math out

[left hatch]

and the thing about every other essence is it scales with Content

null doesn't

[sweet summit]

Stuns/kicks/externals will be WAY better vs magic damage

[zealous ore]

Yeah that's true, null doesn't scale with inc damage

[left hatch]

so it becomes increasingly less valuable the higher you go or the bigger your pull

[zealous ore]

@sweet summit ok buddy

[dark helm]

you 2 are actually brain dead

[ionic fern]

👀

[dark helm]

if it was so not needed

[left hatch]

heres the big brain

[dark helm]

then why does 90% of high M+ run null?

[left hatch]

90%?

lul

[ionic fern]

Okay, let me stop you right there.

High m+ != low m+.

These are night and day situations.

[distant crystal]

is it even common in high keys?

[left hatch]

you're argument is also 'if the majority uses it its good' .... you realize how many prots use anima minor

doesn't mean its not fuckign awful

[distant crystal]

maybe like...ML or something? O_o

[zealous ore]

I think saying something is fucking awful or never used when it's used competitively in high keys is a nice meme

[left hatch]

i said anima is fucking awful

null is just not optimal

outside of workshop and high tyr ML

and you run it in workshop for the damage

[distant crystal]

i wonder if it's just a matter of seeing people's raid setup from their raider.io armory load

[ionic fern]

Two things:
On low keys - no need to use null as the magic damage part is not that deadly.
On high keys - Null can be used as the magic damage part is actually heavy and it can save your life.
Under "High keys" i mean 20+ keys. Not 15 keys.

[distant crystal]

like floorpov's TD 24 from this season shows crucible cns null vision

[left hatch]

and that heavy magic damage component is unavoidable

[distant crystal]

that seems like a raid setup

[left hatch]

if you're using it as a standin for interrupts lul

[sharp night]

yeah i bet if there's a vod of that td24 he's running something completely different

r.io isn't reliable for gear/talents/essences unless people are actively logging out and scanning

in whatever they ran the key with

[left hatch]

but tldr null is a niche pick for very high keys

[ionic fern]

Jep, it definitely has its uses.

[left hatch]

telling new to the class people to use it when they're probably looking to do 10~range content

is silly

cause theres superior loadouts that perform better in like 95% of content

[distant crystal]

it looks like naowh was wearing it for most of his big keys last week

i suppose you get a lot more out of it on bursting weeks

[left hatch]

same reason edicts got more value on bursting

[sharp night]

well yeah it's insane value on bursting, you will literally proc the full value every time it's up

[marble cipher]

Wait, we don't pick null as a default minor for keys...
Then again, I'm still working towards CnS, so I guess it doesn't hurt as a "for the time being" minor?

Maybe this week Aegis in stead then, as we can pull bigger again

[left hatch]

if you arn't pushing super high Sphere, Lucid, or even Aegis

will do more for you

[distant crystal]

isn't null shield reduced by necrotic

so it'd be extra bad this week

[left hatch]

exception is workshop cause you wanna be ST pumping build

[marble cipher]

VoP (major) + Sphere + Null + Warden is what I use atm

[left hatch]

lucid > sphere imo

[marble cipher]

Also this week? The slow from sphere is ok I guess for necrotic?
Or does it not even get applied because of other (default) slows like thunderclap?

[left hatch]

it does

and its ok

i really like sphere, but out of the big 3 (cns, lucid and it) i find it the least potent

you don't really need the extra slow for necro since you can just stun+leap away

[marble cipher]

Fair, but since null wouldn't be that good this week, I could replace null with lucid then

[left hatch]

yup

[marble cipher]

And I should really start doing some arena for CnS.....

[left hatch]

my loadout for 15's is almost consistently VoP, CnS, Lucid, Formless

[marble cipher]

Formless cause your healer runs Crucible?

[left hatch]

healer runs CnS as monk

and i just asked my dps to stagger their shit

[marble cipher]

Hm, k

[left hatch]

benefits them anyway cause free haste (:

if you pug a lot tho wardens is safety

it doesn't really do much but

at least you know it has some value

whereas formless is kinda a gamble if you don't coordinate

[marble cipher]

Aye, the dps I usually run with just burst every cd/trinket they have on one big pack, and then suddenly they're out of cd's for the next 😄

[left hatch]

yah.. why its a gamble haha

doesn't hurt to ask nicely to stagger and if not whelp

[marble cipher]

for sure

I'll ask my default group what major's they actually run with. As the ret pala is surely running VoP, so that won't benefit Formless at all sadly

[left hatch]

you could even do a test run with formless

anything below 25/30% uptime after the run

id ditch it

[marble cipher]

Could do that this week none the less, as the heal from Warden won't be as effective on necro anyway

[left hatch]

the heal from warden is also.... meh

cause of how it procs a LOT of it is wasted

[marble cipher]

it's "ok-ish" at best yeah, agreed

[left hatch]

seems good on paper, and if it worked like urchin it would be an ez instalock but

[marble cipher]

it's good on my brewmaster, but, he's always taking damge so that helps massively on overheals

[left hatch]

its kinda disgusting how often itll proc when you're at/near full

[glacial flint]

anyone good replacement idea for nullbarriere for 3-5 mask runs ? (CnS only rank2) nullbarriere only do 9-14% heal and 1-2,5% dmg..

[marble cipher]

Thanks for the info though, will run sphere/lucid/formless for a few runs, and check the benefits of it

[left hatch]

honestly CnS r2 probably would be better

[glacial flint]

r3 in 2 weeks :X

[left hatch]

failing that... do you have lucid?

can't go wrong with higher ava uptime + free verse + extra ip's

[frozen quest]

How important is ilvl on shield? I feel squishy with 430 shield even though I'm 470 overall

[left hatch]

probably the most important thing to you

the only other source fo block is 2 traits

so the vast majority of our DR comes from it

[maiden ravine]

this week scares me so much

I hate tyrannical

[left hatch]

get rank 12, kill things before they even look at you

ez

that proc has 20-25% uptime

[maiden ravine]

I'm noticing

playing some 2s as arms

destroying

[left hatch]

im wondering if the proc still scales with corruption resistance like it did mid-ptr

cause its gonna get kinda nutty in a month or so when the weekly quest stacks up

[marble cipher]

Should I learn arms to do 2's with resto druid? Or would Fury work as well (I know, it's prot channel here, but I'm guessing we've all had to do arena for CnS, so might as well ask here).

[left hatch]

i did it in prot with a hPally

matches were like 10mins a pop but

lost maybe 3 on the way to 1600

[marble cipher]

other team died of age?

😄

[left hatch]

literally what it was

[marble cipher]

don't think I can pull that off with a resto druid though

[left hatch]

you just ccbot for your healer and they run outta mana way before your pally does

[maiden ravine]

I'm doing pretty good with a resto shaman right now

[left hatch]

but i'm also not a fan of arms or fury so

you probably would fair better as arms

[maiden ravine]

get a geti, win

[left hatch]

getti and cyclo trinket

[marble cipher]

I got 470 n'zoth weapon and 465 getti

[left hatch]

in low matches you can also run inkpod too

cause ppl before 1800 don't know how to dispel

[maiden ravine]

reaping flames is crazy too if you have rank 3

[marble cipher]

got that too, never used the major though, but I guess in arena's it's worth it

[ionic fern]

@viral arch taught me to pvp and the sunmary was also "Go fury,get cyclo and use it when they are low". Worked tho.

[maiden ravine]

over 1500, I believe I can hit 1600!

[left hatch]

go for 2k!

well 15 in time everywhere achieve first but

you can do 2k!

oh you meant rating

derp

i thought that was your goal to climb in io ):

[maiden ravine]

Both

I'm just doing some pvp cause it's 6am

and I'm scared to do my 14 Shrine ke

[left hatch]

wait another day or 2 for more of the player pop to get r12

and itll be ez (:

[maiden ravine]

it's the second boss

they wreck on fort

let alone tyran

[left hatch]

like we were cruising through drunk 14's for fun tonight

and our healer was wasted so some we had several wipes

have you seen where the 'safe place' is to tank it?

so dps can not worry about mechanics besides the interrupt

[last coyote]

there is a safespace?! not for meele tho right?

[left hatch]

even for melee

tank can sit on that ledge and just kinda scootches over w/e the DR zone is throne down

[last coyote]

wut? you kidding? gotta find that.. what about the tornados?

[left hatch]

thats what its safe from

[last coyote]

damn

[left hatch]

no tornados go up there