protection

[warm plinth]

Yeah even with no chests that seems ridiculous. I usually was only looting like 3 chests per run and getting nearly 2k for a full clear mask run

[strong forum]

🤷

[warm plinth]

You can omega pull until like...4 masks probably

Depending on what the masks are

[strong forum]

I do every zone in 2 pulls

Solo

[modern brook]

also how tf u get visions for these items to do the runs?

[warm plinth]

Anything in Vale/Uldum pretty much

[exotic spoke]

What items Bull?

[modern brook]

the horrific whatevers

[strong forum]

?

[modern brook]

I only get the weekly

[exotic spoke]

Oh the coalescing visions?

[warm plinth]

Dailies and the mini vision are the biggest source

[modern brook]

the blue things yeah

[exotic spoke]

You can buy them

[strong forum]

You do the assaults

You buy the keys

With coal

[exotic spoke]

For the keys it takes 10k coalescing visions. Buy them from Wrathion

[strong forum]

From wrathion

[modern brook]

the assaults only show up on tuesday

[strong forum]

There's 1 major, 2 minor

[left hatch]

the baby one resets on friday

[exotic spoke]

The daily quests + daily mini visions

[strong forum]

Minor reset is Saturday nights

[exotic spoke]

I bet you’re capped on coalescing visions

[left hatch]

and even if you hate dailies theres a daily mini vision that gives you 1.5k per

and takes less than a minute

[strong forum]

I don't even do that one Morrison

Kek

[modern brook]

I dont think 've ever seen the friday/sat reset tbh

theoretically last weeks friday would be open still right?

[strong forum]

Yes

[exotic spoke]

It resets the mini zone and changes the assault to the other one

[left hatch]

yup it swapped from cats to bugs

in uldum

[modern brook]

I'll check when im home tonight

It straight up isnt in my minimap to my memory

[exotic spoke]

So bugs / ramkahet in Uldum. Mogu and mantid in vale

But only one of them resets and swaps (whichever one isn’t the N’Zoth black empire assault)

[modern brook]

does that come with the suite of daily quests as well?

[left hatch]

no its offset by 1/2 the day

so its at exactly the 1/2 point of the week

[exotic spoke]

I when the assault swaps you can do more daily quests in that zone too

So yes, on fridays you can “double dip” in daily quests / events / rares in one zone

[uncut fractal]

do you guys do visions as prot?

[left hatch]

yup

[exotic spoke]

I do because I do them in a group

Though I’ll probably try soloing them shortly

[ruby nexus]

I did as fury solo first but now I've been doing them as prot

[strong forum]

Prot is pretty chill

[left hatch]

if yo'ure comfortable pumping on prot its arguably easier

cause of the health nerf as solo tank

you can really melt things

[ruby nexus]

can you change specs inside vision?

[exotic spoke]

Just pump with TD, CoF (or perhaps anima on big pulls), cyclo is good for bosses, etc

Yes you can

[left hatch]

you can cause weve been swapping our healer to dps for rexxar/thrall

but idk if itd give you the health debuff if you swap 1/2 through

[west kayak]

I always run them solo as Prot. Last night did one with CoF Maj and Cyclo trinket. I ended up doing a full clear with one recharge remaining with Sanity at 1k.

Just burned through it.

[exotic spoke]

Some classes are swapping between specs every pull. Do a big pull - pop CDs. Kill everything - swap specs. Use new CDs while the old ones recharge and repeat

How many masks Grevaeo

[west kayak]

None that run.

[ruby nexus]

idk if dealing with rexxar and thrall would be easier as dps

[west kayak]

Kinda wish I did the max Sanity instead of the DPS just for that reason.

[exotic spoke]

I’m just saying it’s what some classes are doing. Mages / rogues I heard

[left hatch]

oh i was saying it cause you dont need the healer

so its been faster to 1-4 it vs 1-1-3

only notable damage from either is sanity daamge

at least on 3 masks

[exotic spoke]

Things start to hurt at 4 in my experience. But it tends to be more wombo combo / sanity death

[left hatch]

yah the damage profile is nonexistent until you getbad combos (:

like being forced into bug swirls because you have your clones up

[ruby nexus]

i only did 2 mask this week, the pools and double sanity - was messing up pretty badly but still had plenty of extra time with full clear

[exotic spoke]

Doing 5 will be fun

[left hatch]

honestly with a full group, a bit more gear and rank 12

i think shit will melt too fast to matter

[exotic spoke]

Messed around with 4 last week. Super scuffed run and got close to full clearing. Feels doable already

But doing it at half sanity is going to be crazy

Oh definitely Morrison.

[left hatch]

yah that 1/2 sanity is gonna be the last one i add to it x.x

not looking forward to those runs

[exotic spoke]

That’s what we did. But gaining like 15% more sanity reduction next week will help. Our goal is 5 mask clear in two weeks

[left hatch]

15%? isn't next week corruption res?

[ruby nexus]

I kinda want to try 3 mask with sanity damage mask but one mess up and it's dead key for me. And I already burned enough keys this week

[left hatch]

i thought its extra 5% this week, corruption res next, and stat proc one after

why not use the mask that spawns the add below 1/2

its super free

[ruby nexus]

I don't have that yet

[warm plinth]

Next week is 7 corruption resistance and 15% sanity reduction

[exotic spoke]

Or whenever. I think maybe it’s the week in thrall when it takes one run

[left hatch]

wtf o.o you get both

thats mega value

[exotic spoke]

The add for low health is super free in group. He doesn’t seem to scale with group size. Or in solo he has no health

[left hatch]

damn ok, thought it alternated off improving 1 thing at a time

makes me way more excited for next week now lol

[exotic spoke]

Yeah I thought it was soon.

[warm plinth]

Yeah it'll make a lot more 5 mask clears happen I think

15% is huge

[exotic spoke]

I’m excited for the corruption. Then I can start using my IS ring and shield and be below 40 corruption

[left hatch]

ill be happy with a 4 clear, not gonna hurt myself going for a 5 till the stat proc

but if it happens next week dope

[ruby nexus]

I hope next week is better affix for mage quarter

[left hatch]

bound to getit anyway with the double affix mask (:

[exotic spoke]

When is that stat proc?

[left hatch]

12

[exotic spoke]

Isn’t that like next week or is it two weeks?

[toxic gyro]

Anyone know what that add does? The one you spawn when you’re below 1/2 sanity?

[left hatch]

week and like 2 days

it does nothing

or at least it had so little health

[exotic spoke]

Yeah - 2 week(ly resets)

[toxic gyro]

Doesn’t drain sanity?

[left hatch]

i didnt notice any mechanic

not that i noticed

[exotic spoke]

It can’t do anything when it dies in under 2 seconds even in a full group

[shut summit]

i did 4 this week solo and felt pretty chill, 5 prolly pretty doable

without any of the solo talents in tree

[exotic spoke]

Literally has 0 health

[toxic gyro]

Nice

[exotic spoke]

@shut summit I agree. With a super scuffed run we still almost had a 4 mask clear in a group. I think in two weeks (when back in Orgrimmar) a lot of 5 mask runs will be popping up

[toxic gyro]

Someone told me that add spawning one was bad..

[left hatch]

its one of the easiest

by far

[toxic gyro]

I did 3 mask run with 400% drain

[exotic spoke]

You can’t wait til like 20 sanity to use orb but yeah it’s basically free

[warm plinth]

Honestly the 400% mask is the worst one other than the max sanity one. Because you have to care a lot more about things you might not have before.

[toxic gyro]

It’s not as bad as ppl think it is

[exotic spoke]

I think it’s fine with out the sanity loss. But both together are aids

[tame garden]

I mean it's pretty bad

[toxic gyro]

Only some mini bosses are a pain

[tame garden]

Very punishing

If you fuck up

More punishing than any other besides long night

[exotic spoke]

Bandi, it’s pretty bad and opens you up to combos. Some affixes aren’t bad but some are. In SW it’s literally bullshit on Shaw in old town

[toxic gyro]

Yea but 90% of the rime u can avoid sanity drains

[tame garden]

Ok and 10% time you get fucked

[toxic gyro]

I agree with that riki

[mild canopy]

which major essence you use in visions?

[tame garden]

Vs the rest where you can ignore them

100% of the time

[toxic gyro]

On one of the runs with it I got comboed

[exotic spoke]

If you play perfectly yeah. But sometimes you can’t. He I have a wall of shit I can’t escape because of the split personality and a void zone / attack I have to stand in because I literally can’t get out

@mild canopy solo or group?

[toxic gyro]

I just didn’t know what other ones do for sure

[mild canopy]

solo as prot

[warm plinth]

Yeah if you get hit by a shaw swirl with that mask, it's literally almost 200 sanity damage haha

[mild canopy]

i normally solo as fury or arms

[left hatch]

yah theres just some combos you can't avoid... like the guy that Yeet's you in wisdom

[mild canopy]

want to try prot now

[left hatch]

or a badly timed headbutt in honor

[warm plinth]

Dude can we not talk about fucking headbutt

[exotic spoke]

If you’re soloing I may use CoF or Anima. Probably CoF

[shut summit]

can spell reflect headbutt

[warm plinth]

Headbutt is such garbage

[shut summit]

sends mob flying

[warm plinth]

I'm a DH Sense

[exotic spoke]

Wait. Seriously?

[warm plinth]

I'm a betrayer

[exotic spoke]

I didn’t know that. That’s amazing

[tame garden]

That's hilarious

May have to do my next run as prot just to see it

[mild canopy]

got two masks as arms but struggled with 3 masks

[warm plinth]

Has anyone tried gnasher food in Honor? I get the feeling that it works enough like stealth that the stealth detect mobs might still see you pretty easily

It doesn't seem to be quite like rabbit charms, because I used it in a mini vision and had a mob turn my way like mobs will if you get semi-too close in stealth

Which doesn't happen with rabbit charms

[toxic gyro]

So way to go is one that spawns add> shadow pools> 2 madnesses > 400% drain > 1/2 sanity?

[warm plinth]

Yeah, pretty much

[left hatch]

yah thats basically it

[warm plinth]

Add/pools is probably about the same

And the 2 madness one kinda depends what madnesses are active/which ones it adds

[toxic gyro]

Gotcha

[left hatch]

the only time pools getsannoying is thrall room in a 5man group

and even then its just annoying

not dangerous

[toxic gyro]

F it’s stormwind this week

[mild canopy]

@toxic gyro add and pools are trivial you can do both easy

[shut summit]

https://youtu.be/X8mpRgmIYIw?t=550 - randomly reflected headbutt

[mild canopy]

2 madnesses mess things a little bit

[toxic gyro]

I hate that stupid eye on last boss

[left hatch]

should be less bad cause aleria uses chains less

and only time eye was bad was the combo with chains (for me at least)

[warm plinth]

ngl scorched feet + the bugs is more annoying than I thought it would be lol

[mild canopy]

like knockback and illusions

[toxic gyro]

Yea I didn’t have much problem with pools even in a group

[tame garden]

Alleria ez just long af

[warm plinth]

Honestly Alleria was never an issue for me (as a DH) but Umbric can go fuck himself

Leaden foot on that guy is horrible

[shut summit]

needs to cast while moving or some shit so isnt so bad for melee

[exotic spoke]

Alleria is pure cancer

[shut summit]

run closer to melee

[mild canopy]

nothing is more cancer than mage tower with movement slow madness

[warm plinth]

She just takes fucking forever

Yeah, for sure. Actually the worst possible zone+madness combination

both Umbric and the big fleshbeast that drops the pools

[mild canopy]

big fleshbeast you can melt asap

but umbric is dumb

[toxic gyro]

Fleshbeast is the one that combo’ed me with 400% drain mask lol

[exotic spoke]

I mean.:.. kinda?

[mild canopy]

he teleport based on % hp

[exotic spoke]

He’s got a lot of health and hits pretty hard

[mild canopy]

so you can't zeg

[exotic spoke]

(The fleshbEast). Definitely doesn’t just melt in a group with masks

[mild canopy]

zerg*

[toxic gyro]

Just bring fire mage lol

[warm plinth]

He doesn't live long but the swirls can fuck you up fast if you make a mistake and have the sanity mask on

With leaden foot

[exotic spoke]

He gave us problems and was part of the problems some of our first three masks clears almost didn’t work

[toxic gyro]

Every mini boss melts if u have fire mage

[mild canopy]

fleshbeast you need to be always on the move dodging

[warm plinth]

You can just barely dodge the swirls with that madness; have to move barely out of the circle and plant, then move barely out of the circle and plant lol

[exotic spoke]

Cause I can just bring any class on a whim and kick someone out of my group to do so 😛

[warm plinth]

Yeah but you can't constantly move with leaden foot

You have to stop

And the swirls spawn very constantly

[exotic spoke]

I’m sure our spriest, hdh, rogue, or druid would love that

[warm plinth]

He's not hard in general; he's just annoying with leaden foot

[mild canopy]

@toxic gyro you don't have a fire mage in solo runs 😭

[toxic gyro]

Yea I only really ran with group so far

2-4man

4-5 man worked best for me

[tame garden]

Solo or coward

[warm plinth]

Can't get Faceless One with a group though

[toxic gyro]

Prob will eventually I just have any solo traits

[exotic spoke]

Yeah - the self Rez for solo is still good in group. Plus a flat 3% damage increase amazing

[toxic gyro]

It is

[warm plinth]

Self rez means you don't have to worry as much about the moron who can't dodge anything 😄

And then you kick them from your group before trying any real runs

[toxic gyro]

Did 3/3 for both bottom talents on the research

[exotic spoke]

Oh the self Rez is worth the 3 points you have to put in to the 3% damage increase alone

[toxic gyro]

Should’ve done one that leads into self ress

[exotic spoke]

We didn’t do that one until laterz. Went group route side then got those

Free Rez per person

[left hatch]

^ the solo trait and self rez are the only 3 points i have left

saved it for last

[exotic spoke]

I just have the last two points in the above 50% sanity you do more damage and below 50% sanity you take less damage

[warm plinth]

I'm doing the max sanity right now, and then going back to the damage done/taken one

And I'll probably get the free rez last since it'll just be for completion anyway

[exotic spoke]

We rushed to gift of Titans - going team route side - then got the free Rez once per person -> the 5% more damage -1% per person within 500 yards -> free self rez -> that talent

[toxic gyro]

You can use free ress to get back 500 sanity

[warm plinth]

Speaking of the max sanity one, I'm assuming it happens before the long night mask factors? So you'll have 575 sanity?

Assuming you're solo of course

[exotic spoke]

Yes Bandi. But there was a better path for us - in terms of efficiency per talent point spent

[toxic gyro]

Yea riki that’s what I should’ve done too

Oh well I’m almost there either way

[elder berry]

Is overwhelming power any good for prot? I know the haste from it would be great but the fact that taking damage drops stacks makes me believe it loses a lot of value. Am I corrit or is that still one of the better traits for M+?

[exotic spoke]

People said I was wrong for advocating to do more than the bare minimum week one.

I feel vindicated seeing where some people who followed that advice are compared to where I am

[modern brook]

easily the best inner @elder berry

[exotic spoke]

@elder berry yes it’s good. Unstable flames is another solid option. Basically a coin flip between those after the OP nerf

[warm plinth]

Well, it's closer to Unstable Flames now that it (OP) doesn't scale with haste

[elder berry]

ok I was thinking maybe you may lose stack so quickly the haste doesnt last long enough to have value

[modern brook]

stack loss is capped at 2 per second

(1 from decay, 1 from incoming damage)

unless that also changed :^(

[undone sun]

Internal cool down, only drops so fast

[elder berry]

Got ya. Awesome

[ruby nexus]

I need to find new keybinds for my prot, clap button is too badly broken 😢

[tame garden]

Swapped from 445 vial + block to 460 rezans + wrathion last night

Feelsgoodman

[exotic spoke]

Very nice. I’m using 465 rezan and 450 urchin. I want that Wrathion trinket

[tame garden]

The haste is so nice

My war finally feels back to where he was pre patch

[exotic spoke]

But I dunno - I may regem to crit if I get Wrathion trinket

[tame garden]

No longer feel paper

Too bad hes benched for all of next week

[exotic spoke]

So you can push on your bear?

[tame garden]

Ya

[exotic spoke]

Next week looks soooo good

[deep folio]

Im using Vita and barnacle guys ypu think its a good idea to change my haste gems out?

[exotic spoke]

But yeah. Thinking of regemming crit. Haven’t decided yet though

[tame garden]

I'm running out of easy upgrades now without mythic raiding on him

[exotic spoke]

What other trinket options do you have?

Regarding gemming something other than haste - it’s a matter of what you want.

[deep folio]

I have tormeny 460 rezans 465 butchers 465 vita 460 humming shard 460 barnacle 470 and a few others il have to check

[exotic spoke]

I’d use butchers or rezans over that barnacle

[tame garden]

I want block

[deep folio]

Ok thanks will do some simming

[tame garden]

But have to wait til after next week to farm one

What are affixes after next

[warm plinth]

Raging/Necrotic/Tyr

[tame garden]

Good war week

[modern brook]

also super free tbh

[tame garden]

I will live inside waycrest

[exotic spoke]

^^

[modern brook]

necrotic sanguine is the only hard key

cause you have to find tanks that arent pussies

[tame garden]

Necrotic bursting can smd

[exotic spoke]

So, the question is should I mess around and give up 5 haste gems for 5 crit gems 🙂

Just play a dwarf Speg

[tame garden]

No

[exotic spoke]

What about the 5 haste gems lol

[modern brook]

do mastery

[tame garden]

Sim it

[modern brook]

just for the fuck of it

[tame garden]

[exotic spoke]

Yeah I know I should for dps. 35% haste is pretty fancy though (before ITTF)

[tame garden]

After getting double haste trinkets I'm on the zoomer hype train

Haste all the way

[mental scarab]

Real men gem crit

🥳

[exotic spoke]

I’m all about that haste / crit. 2371 haste rating right now. With Rezans / force multiplier / elemental whirl adding more

[left hatch]

imagine not having a triple stack of OP

smfh

should be ashamed

[exotic spoke]

I haven’t gotten good azerite pieces. Rolling mythic shoulders Tuesday and then saving for specifics

[tame garden]

Rolled heroic MS chest wasted my luck

Now I'm doomed to only getting fury azerite

[exotic spoke]

I got desert guardian. It’s manageable

[tame garden]

I need to start killing last 2 heroic bosses on war

Both pieces are dc/bom iirc

[exotic spoke]

I think so

[tame garden]

I need one so I can replace my 450 helm

Unfortunately still need nzoth trinket on main so cant bring war yet

[exotic spoke]

😦

I’m hoping my guild moves heroic to off nights

[sick sentinel]

Yeah get both pieces from last 2 heroic for budget azerite

[tame garden]

That's the next goal

[strong forum]

1.7k crit 1.9k haste chad here

Ama

[median kraken]

How good is engineering helmet compare to bis helm from raid?

[strong forum]

Engi helm is pretty good all things considered

[exotic spoke]

For what content?

[median kraken]

M+

[strong forum]

It's the best helmet that doesn't have bom :)

[exotic spoke]

It’s good, but if you’re doing M+ I think abyssal is still better than anything from raid

*by a little bit.

[median kraken]

Hc version too?

[exotic spoke]

Depends on what you’re using and if you’re getting Deafening Crash from elsewhere or not. I’d say the mythic version is better than mythic from raid.

But, knowing I probably won’t get the azerite from carapace / N’zoth for a long while - I think the abyssal helm + ashvane wardens chest + krakens shoulders will be my goal

[sick sentinel]

Wow riki outstanding goal

:^)

[exotic spoke]

❤️ you Hawgz

You conceited bastard! ❤️

[sick sentinel]

I do what I can 🙂

[exotic spoke]

I know qtpie

[sick sentinel]

What y’all don’t know is that my constant put downs raise your internal bar

Also shrine is no fun this week

I did not enjoy my time there

[strong forum]

No dungeon is fun this week besides workshop

Or temple

Scratch temple

[sick sentinel]

FH is aight as long as you don’t get smoked by the first two bosses

[strong forum]

That ain't fun either with explo

FH is always chill cuz mobs do nothing

[sick sentinel]

Exactly

Mob hp is relatively similar

So you can pull decently large with bolstering

Prob my fav key I’ve done this week

KR not bad either

[tame garden]

Awakened kr pog

I've done too many this week

[sick sentinel]

Blizz: make it EASIER

[tame garden]

Getti will be mine

[sick sentinel]

I got my 475 shield so now I roll fury in box

[tame garden]

Jealous

[sick sentinel]

Don’t be

I paid

[tame garden]

Still only have 460 here

And then once I have 465 I'm stuck rolling prot cache til SL

[exotic spoke]

How much did you pay hawgz

[sick sentinel]

Couple decent ones on AH on my server for not too bad of price. I paid 750k for 475 shield with Crit corruption

[exotic spoke]

Yeah I’d do that

[tame garden]

That's super worth

[sick sentinel]

Oh yeah

No doubt

[exotic spoke]

Been nothing close to that on Sargeras

[tame garden]

I'll have to check my AH but idk how much I'd spend on an alt boe

[sick sentinel]

I almost pulled the trigger on the 475 t3 infinite stars with socket

[tame garden]

Might get back into boosting after next week tbh

[sick sentinel]

Sell aotc

Big gold

[exotic spoke]

Yeah I started again this week Speg. I need to push a key as high as we can this week.

To prep for next week

[sick sentinel]

Don’t do it with shrine :^)

[tame garden]

Meh we just gonna do a 19 then start with 18s next week

And push up from there

[exotic spoke]

I think I’ve only done a 17 this week. Didn’t feel 100% this weekend

[tame garden]

We have a 19 fh to do tonight

[sick sentinel]

Timer is tight this week in FH

[dire blade]

"ONLY a 17"?!? I can't find a decent group consistently to push past 9s....

[tame garden]

I expect to deplete

So no worries there

😄

Eudora gonna clap some cheeks

[sick sentinel]

Just run with warriors and demon hunters so they can just leap to Eudora lul

[tame garden]

I play with dh/priest/mage as dps

[exotic spoke]

Yeah cburner. It’s all about expectations. When we were doing 17s the first week of mythic and timed one or two of them - having only done a 17 so far this week feels bad

[tame garden]

They gonna have to hide

[sick sentinel]

Just use the pillar

Ez

[tame garden]

Ya

[sick sentinel]

Hate Eudora

[dire blade]

Had a healer yesterday on my key wait until after start to tell me they had never been in JY and decided a 9 was a good starting point. Had to coach on debuffs and did last boss when she died in first phase

[proper orchid]

What key level should I start using lucid major over vision?

[exotic spoke]

If you’re not doing very high keys it doesn’t matter Zonked - stick with vision. Like over 20s

Basically, if you have to ask, you shouldn’t be using it.

[sick sentinel]

I would say 22-23 prob

[tame garden]

Visions is bae

[sick sentinel]

But there’s no “you should use it when” it is for very very large pulls where you need a shit load of avatar to survive

[exotic spoke]

^^

[left hatch]

keywords are VERY large pulls and NEED to survive

[proper orchid]

Cool thanks

[exotic spoke]

We’re talking huge pulls.

[left hatch]

Yuuge

[sick sentinel]

Like

YUGE

[exotic spoke]

Friggen huge. Like 3 - 400 pounds

Serial crusher

[sick sentinel]

Like clench your cheeks huge

[tame garden]

Wipe to explosive type huge

[exotic spoke]

Name that movie quote

[median kraken]

yuge..

[left hatch]

pulls about yea big

[tame garden]

🤏

[sick sentinel]

Imagine a world where I had the stones to pull big enough to use lucid major

[undone sun]

🤏 🍆

[exotic spoke]

No one able to name that movie quote I said?

Sad Riki

[sick sentinel]

I was t sure what the quote was

[undone sun]

Who's Riki

[exotic spoke]

Friggen huge. Like 3 - 400 pounds

Sad (Not)Riki

Happy Thyme?

[sick sentinel]

Oh that’s boondock saints isn’t it

[exotic spoke]

Yes sir

[sick sentinel]

🤠

[left hatch]

oh william defoe

[exotic spoke]

I read his IMDb page once. Has some interesting facts lol

[sick sentinel]

Does someone know the Haste Breakpoints for Raid and M+ ?

[left hatch]

there arn't any that are reachable

[tame garden]

More haste

[exotic spoke]

^^

More haste is more better defensively (as long as you’re not losing ilvl) for M+ especially

[mortal brook]

600% haste and you get to clap every gcd. that's the breakpoint i think

[tame garden]

[mortal brook]

after that extra haste is a bit silly

[west galleon]

clap pog

[noble ingot]

A lol

Limit wants to know your location

[sweet summit]

uhoh

[west galleon]

method recruiting through twitch

im js

[tame garden]

Ya cuz they need a new tank

[sweet summit]

limit is too washed up for me 😎

[tame garden]

Limit gonna replace noawh with @sick sentinel

[noble ingot]

Inv pls, will link curve

[mortal brook]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-animal-abuse-gif-5260251

hawgz carrying the world 1st

[sweet summit]

hawgz going siphoning in the world first race

[exotic spoke]

Rofl

[noble ingot]

Do more dps that damage per sec, get 100% siphoning

Get WF unlimited times

Profit

Ez clap

20 dmg dealer groups

[sick sentinel]

I was mentioned so i am assumed leech is in the discussion

[tame garden]

We were discussing the limit roster change

[sick sentinel]

Yeah they approached me

[tame garden]

Naowh 📉
Hawgz 📈

[sick sentinel]

Correct

Now I just have to improve

That’s always the killer

[sweet summit]

you dont have to imporve

you are flawless

god gamger

[tame garden]

Limit are the ones that should adapt

[sick sentinel]

I agree

First of all why wasn’t a prot warrior in on world first

[final mist]

Because no immunity

[sweet summit]

because blood dks are scaling so well with stats

[final mist]

I actually don’t even know the comp they used outside of immunity memes, Lemme go look rq

[sick sentinel]

The day I play a blood dk is the day I unsub

[mortal brook]

wasnt that scaling thing debunked by mandl like 2 months ago, and it was just the bdk had better corruptions?

[sweet summit]

it was, i was just joking around

[mortal brook]

hecking fooled

[sick sentinel]

Absolutely baited

So if I have t3 TD would limit have brought me in

[mortal brook]

you need 5TD i believe

[sick sentinel]

Even if I ss the boss extra hard

[analog zinc]

people ran bdks

because they wanted to

monks & dhs are both better tanks

[sick sentinel]

And neither are better than prot don’t even argue

[tame garden]

Bdk 🚮

[exotic spoke]

Just run Purgatory in M+. I hear that’s the move

[solemn kelp]

Do the dervishes just before Galvazzt bolster? I can never remember.

[tame garden]

No

[shut summit]

they dont

[tame garden]

They do drop 5 stacks of sanguine each tho

[shut summit]

consistency

[warm plinth]

Sense are you doing M+ videos 👀

[shut summit]

soon as i swap isp's on friday ill be doing more

shit is awful atm

[warm plinth]

Yeah I hear you. Mine is the same way except there are no ISPs to swap to lol

[final mist]

Same

Honestly moving to new apartment just to swap to new ISP

[warm plinth]

Yeah, when we move I'm moving south like 5 miles so I can get Google Fiber lol

Just barely out of their area where I am now

[final mist]

Spectrum has everything for like a 10 mile radius around me, I hate it

[ionic fern]

You guys are living in scuffed places.

o.o

[final mist]

And they don’t fix shit because lmao who else am I gonna swap to

[tame garden]

NA internet

[final mist]

Welcome to America, enjoy your stay

Moving closer to work and into Verizon fios area since google fiber isn’t up here yet

[ionic fern]

Come move to Estonia

We got everything.

[warm plinth]

Yeah I have Spectrum as well

[undone sun]

I live too far out of the center of town to get fibre

[final mist]

Honestly dude Canada Iookin’ real fine these days

[tame garden]

Our internet situation isnt much better

Tbh

[exotic spoke]

Even when it’s fine it can be a problem.

[final mist]

Moreso for the healthcare than the internet

Also I live in NY (state, not city), literally anywhere is better than paying NY taxes

[exotic spoke]

We had a scuffed vision run last week where two of our group DCed at the same time and two people didn’t. Other internet activity wasn’t disrupted. Lost some mementos because of that and just barely saved it

[final mist]

There was one time where my internet up and download dropped by 60-90%, depending on time of day

And it took them three weeks and multiple hours-long phone calls to get out here and diagnose the problem, which was a squirrel having chewed through the wires to my house

[undone sun]

Roommate with faide yeah @final mist

[final mist]

And then another two weeks to actually fix it

Faide hates me dude, won’t even cotank with me anymore 😞

[undone sun]

Unluck

[final gust]

Do shields for prot work like weapons for the other specs- where main hand weapon dps soars for fury/arms, does block soar?

[tame garden]

Yes

[exotic spoke]

Yes it really makes a difference

[tame garden]

Block soar

[final gust]

aight ty

[exotic spoke]

How long is the alliance RP post boss three in siege. Anyone remember / know off hand?

[tame garden]

Just play horde lmao

[warm plinth]

@exotic spoke I want to say it's ~20 seconds

[exotic spoke]

Aight just couldn’t remember if it was like 15, 20,25 or 30

Missed a siege by 28 seconds. Was sloppy and trying new things yesterday. So just was curious

[tame garden]

Shoulda played horde

Ez chest

[exotic spoke]

Also, @tame garden but then I can’t be a dwarf / meld

Honestly meld would have been bigger 😛

[tame garden]

Meld in 2020

😏

[final mist]

NE is the only Alliance race because their animations and transmog are the best

Likewise, NB is the only horde race

[exotic spoke]

DID is pretty amazing too - more so in raid than M+ but still solid

[tame garden]

Vulpera >>>

[maiden ravine]

Gnome for life

[tame garden]

If you arent playing vulpera you're doing it wrong

[final mist]

[tame garden]

They hated him because he told them the truth

[exotic spoke]

Can’t play Vulpera on the winning side

[tame garden]

😔

[final mist]

You can’t make a macro with a vulpera racial and /y “An illusion! What are you hiding!?” and have it make sense

Checkmate

[exotic spoke]

Just enable cross faction at this point. Jesus Christ having a split player base is terrible right now

[final mist]

Also NB heritage armor >>> every other heritage set

Thanks for coming to my ted talk

[prisma crane]

@exotic spoke it's the only reason i'm even horde in the first place

playing casually as an alliance player is almost not even possible

the number of pugs is night and day

and i fucking hate blizzard because of it

they slept at that switch for far too long

i want to play my alliance warrior, but no one is left

[exotic spoke]

I don’t pug a bunch so /shrug.

But I recognize that it is an issue

[prisma crane]

i dont much either unless it's a raid but even then

most of the people i know who raid all went horde

impossible to recruit on alliance vs horde

and due to essences, cloak and corruption, most players that i know that play both don't keep up with their "alt" faction, too much work

[warm plinth]

Imagine saying NB heritage is better than Dwarf or Kul Tiran 😠

[ionic fern]

Dwarf master race.

Plz @final mist

I thought you OK.

😦

[undone sun]

You thought

That's where you faulted

[final mist]

^

mfw I spot someone who’s not playing a NB

[exotic spoke]

But goblin gives haste and more mobility

[final mist]

Racials don’t matter, only transmog does

[exotic spoke]

If you’re not using Dreadnaught are you even really trying?

[tame garden]

Yes only transmog

[final mist]

Gotta look your best when you head out with the squad to slay dragons and get purplez, and anything less than a NB is not your best tbh

[tame garden]

Which is why vulpera is bis

Tail sticking out the back for your plate mog

Front flips

[final mist]

Dreadnaught is, like, so 2006

[rare bolt]

sorry if this is pinned somewhere, where can I find good routes for season 4?

[final mist]

Coming Soon™️

[tame garden]

Theres some posted on competitivewow reddit

[exotic spoke]

Yeah and it hasn’t been beaten since then Sal

[tame garden]

But making your own is fun

Tbh

I love awakened

[final mist]

Same

[exotic spoke]

^^

[final mist]

Also that’s false riki

T6 beat it

And then a few of the other tiers

ToS tier remakes are easily the best warrior sets in the entire game, hands down

[exotic spoke]

T6 was they one they re used recently yeah?

Re colored it / etc

[final mist]

Yeah, the Tomb remakes / updates

[tame garden]

ToS is best but everyone uses

[ionic fern]

Ama.

Bis mog

[exotic spoke]

Yeah, the pvp one was the best color of it imo. The dark blue is solid I have it and use it from time to time

Occasionally I use the GM / rank 14 gear when I want to blind the world

[final mist]

@ionic fern why aren’t you a NE?

[warm plinth]

The braids covering the man-nips is a nice touch

[final mist]

smdh my head

[tame garden]

Dear lord mwahi

[ionic fern]

Cause NE can't be bald.

[prisma crane]

i agree Sal

[final mist]

Yeah but you do flips

[warm plinth]

Just be a vulpera; they flip too

[exotic spoke]

Eh I don’t like that helmet

[warm plinth]

And look 800 billion times better than a night elf to be perfectly frank

[prisma crane]

ToS mythic / elite set is so good

[final mist]

Yeah but vulperas are furries

[exotic spoke]

I dunno, that set is aight. I don’t think it’s amazing though

[prisma crane]

this entire expac has been lazy AF on armor and it's a bummer

[exotic spoke]

Don’t @ me

[warm plinth]

wdym Krotos; they have backpacks

[exotic spoke]

DONT YOU DARE DO IT GHASH

[final mist]

The ToS boot model is hands down the best thing about it tbh

[warm plinth]

😂

[exotic spoke]

oh ok

[final mist]

I guess that sounds weird, but it’s just

[warm plinth]

I'm colorblind; who tf am I to say shit about a transmog opinion lol

[final mist]

Really refreshing to have a different option like that that’s totally unique

[tame garden]

Lmao for me I'll always remember bfa by the uldir plate set

[final mist]

Legion had a bunch of really good and neat new ideas

[tame garden]

That shit makes me laugh every time

[exotic spoke]

I just wish I could use the flail without the shield

[final mist]

I really like that they added new 3D pieces to items, like the little claws some of the gloves had

[prisma crane]

yea Sal, i love the strapped in look on the back

chest pieces still being completely flat in 99% of items out there are so sad

[final mist]

ToS is just an insanely good remake of an already good set, and it’s just really fitting for a “gladiator”-type set

[prisma crane]

agreed

[undone sun]

Tmog talk

[final mist]

Now if only Glad stance still existed

[undone sun]

Someone mention spikes yet

[prisma crane]

lol

[tame garden]

Any tusks in the chat

[sick sentinel]

Hi, just changed spec to prot as I want to give tanking a try, is prot tanking a really hard spec to learn or is it ok for a newb tank?

[warm plinth]

Only you Thyme

[final mist]

If there’s one thing that blizz can do besides banners to bring me back to tanking, it’s mfn vlad stance tbh

[warm plinth]

With your awful xmog

[final mist]

Prot is easy to learn, just make sure you read the guide

[exotic spoke]

@undone sun you mean Might + pvp artifact shield / axe

[prisma crane]

@sick sentinel it's a bit rough for new tanks since it's a proactive tank as opposed to a reactive one, but we all love it, so you should see how you like it 🙂

[final mist]

You can’t just go in guns blazing, that’s a bad idea

[tame garden]

I'd say prot is a good tank to learn with

You'll set good habits

From the getgo

[undone sun]

Yes @exotic spoke

I don't have pictures of my warrior off hand

[final mist]

Prot reinforces the idea of learning damage patterns and being proactive with cooldowns, which is important

[undone sun]

But he's just spikes

[prisma crane]

@junior ivy used that too!

[final mist]

I.E. don’t save cooldowns for “just in case”, that’s bad, you want to use them so you never get into that hole in the first place

[exotic spoke]

I remember what your transmog looks like. I’ve used it before as well

It goes really well with the weapon

[undone sun]

Yeah, I remember catfriend an I having similar mogs

[prisma crane]

yea, CDs are used OFTEN for prot warriors since we get them back so quickly

[sick sentinel]

many thanks, I have read the wowhead prot guide! My biggest concern is in groups everyone expects the tank to be the expert, and I only started playing wow during bfa, so I am pretty far from an expert 🙂

[final mist]

That’s okay! Everyone starts somewhere!

[tame garden]

You just gonna int out some depletes

And learn

Tanking is all experience

[prisma crane]

thats more of a tanking thing in general and you'll have that problem on all tanks, just practice and roll with the assholes, there will be plenty of em

[sick sentinel]

thanks

[final mist]

If being in a group of randoms and learning there sounds bad, drag a few friends through keys to learn

[prisma crane]

^ having a set group makes up for a lot of it

[final mist]

Try and use something like Method Dungeon Tools to roughly plan a path too, that’s important

[prisma crane]

sal's name used to be blue, he knows what he's talking about

but then he must have gotten fired

maybe drinking too much at blizzcon

idk

[final mist]

I didn’t get fired, I quit playing

[prisma crane]

that too

[final mist]

I do drink too much tho, it’s honestly a problem

[prisma crane]

i all but stopped for a while too

[undone sun]

Same sal

But it's not a problem

Sober me Is the problem

[prisma crane]

..hic

[warm plinth]

Thyme's toon looks like a hipster Starbucks barista decided that spikes were "so retro"

[undone sun]

Lmao

[final mist]

I’m actually kind of salty that they still haven’t given us heritage weapons

[warm plinth]

Same

[final mist]

They clearly fuckin’ exist

[warm plinth]

Especially with how hard it is to find weapons to match a lot of the sets

[final mist]

Let me have my fuckin’ NB warglaive

[warm plinth]

Like I have what is probably the only "matching" shield/weapon for the dwarf set but it really is awful imo

[prisma crane]

i just want a big human that isnt fat

[final mist]

It’s legit impossible to find a good sword and shield for NB armor, I don’t even use it for Prot, I use the DK set from Nighthold

[exotic spoke]

I said fuck the weapon transmog. I’m using a chain sword

[warm plinth]

Yeah there's just nothing like...fancy enough

[final mist]

I have the BoE 2H sword from early BfA for arms and fury tho, that matches pretty well

[warm plinth]

Since NB heritage is so intricate

[prisma crane]

im using TF, idc if it doesnt match

[ionic fern]

Is this it @undone sun ?

[undone sun]

1:1

[warm plinth]

Wow, that's actually perfect

[prisma crane]

they just need a higher res TF

[undone sun]

Oh but wait

[final mist]

[undone sun]

Even the shield has spikes

[final mist]

The higher res TF exists

[warm plinth]

Yeah, the shield needs spikes too

[ionic fern]

RIP .:(

[final mist]

It’s just a fuckin’ rogue artifact skin

[warm plinth]

Isn't the outlaw hidden

lol

Yeah

[prisma crane]

yea, but it's kinda lame tbh

[final mist]

Still super salty about that too

[ionic fern]

Wait, are you using the BT shield ?

[final mist]

Why does thyme have a shield in his MH

[ionic fern]

MAYBE HE'S LEFT HANDED

[final mist]

[prisma crane]

its from behind

[warm plinth]

Honestly I really wish I could make my toon left-handed

What's wrong with us lefties 😠

[undone sun]

It's mirrored 👀

[prisma crane]

you mean besides everything?

Kappa

[undone sun]

Lefties are the best pitchers

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[warm plinth]

Waow Krotos

That's offensive

[prisma crane]

sry, i cant read what you wrote through your palm smudges

[exotic spoke]

It’s 2020 - you can still talk shit about lefties

[warm plinth]

WOW KROTOS

That's fucking savage man

[prisma crane]

lol

[tame garden]

😂

[warm plinth]

You righties are so fucking smug because you can write on dry erase boards

[ionic fern]

I mean..gotta have Shield in your main hand for SHIELD SLAM, right?

👀

[prisma crane]

^

[exotic spoke]

^^

[final mist]

Why can’t I dual wield shields yet

Wtf blizz

[exotic spoke]

Cause you’d be OP

[prisma crane]

also @warm plinth my mom knew a woman growing up who was left handed and would write each line in reverse, idk how the hell she did it

[final mist]

Where’s my “spec identity”???

[prisma crane]

i want that too

[warm plinth]

The fuck

That reminds me of that show that NPH hosts with the kids

Where he's like "give me an 8 letter word that means blah blah blah" and they fucking say the word and then spell it backwards in like 2.5 seconds

[exotic spoke]

One of like 3 strength 1 hander users - feels bad man when you don’t have many in raid to feed you one handers

[prisma crane]

then we get shield clap @final mist

[warm plinth]

Nah we need that uh

The one shield in Dark Souls or DS3 where you can dual wield them and then the special is just smashing someone's fucking face in

[prisma crane]

and just punch with the bottom of the shield

[final mist]

Listen all I’m saying is we’re just one of several sword and board specs, we need something to help us stand out

Like dual wielding shields or going full mongo and using a shield + 2H

[warm plinth]

I think it's DS3

[prisma crane]

i feel liek shield and 2h is more likely

[exotic spoke]

There are two. I agree with you that we need to stand out. It’s why we’re good and they aren’t

[final mist]

Or banners

Banners were nice

[exotic spoke]

I liked banners

[final mist]

Mocking Banner

[prisma crane]

would also solve my problem of never having many options for rear sheathed weapons

[exotic spoke]

They gave mobility options too

[final mist]

Demo Banner

[exotic spoke]

Sal, people would say that’s too close to Dave though

[warm plinth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oisSBQE-Wu4 this is on topic (kind of)

[prisma crane]

mocking banner? 🥑

[final mist]

Honestly I want the 2H + shield more for transmog options than anything else

[prisma crane]

yea

[warm plinth]

Though the music in that video is uh...questionable

[prisma crane]

rear sheath!!

[exotic spoke]

Just let me transmog to it. That’s all I care about

I mean jesus - TF is as big as a Two Hander

[prisma crane]

yep and i love it for that

[final mist]

I use the artifact set just for the back sheath tbh

[warm plinth]

You know what are surprisingly awesome tmogs...the island weapons

[final mist]

No real good shields for the DK NH set either but hey, whatever works

[warm plinth]

Like the lava 2h axe or the big ass 2h sword

[exotic spoke]

Like TF bigger than orange Whammy

What’s that set look like? I can’t remember

[final mist]

It’s the LK-ass lookin one

[exotic spoke]

Blackish?

Or is it like blueish

[final mist]

The mythic version, literally LK colors

[final mist]

Yeah that one

[prisma crane]

more detail than last 3 tiers combined, NBD

[final mist]

Remember when they got rid of class tier sets to make the raid sets better

[exotic spoke]

Shit, maybe ERB would work?

[final mist]

I’m using the artifact that’s the upgrade base version that’s the blue/blue-purple color, with that tier set

[exotic spoke]

Yeah that makes sense

[ionic fern]

I just want my Iron Soldier Saber.

😦

[final mist]

Here I’ll post my TMog in #transmog

[spare delta]

any1 has WA for tank buster Spirit Breaker cast?

[exotic spoke]

No I don’t.

What are you looking to do with it?

[spare delta]

good to know timing when it comes, makes my life easier to out range it

[exotic spoke]

Just face tank it for now until you get to higher keys.

[spare delta]

+19 really cannot

[exotic spoke]

/shrug. Haven’t had issues inthe 18s I’ve done. Doing a 19 tonight

[tame garden]

Take the first one and build threat til he does the aoe cast

Then leap away and kite til it dies

[exotic spoke]

But also that ^ to get it where you need to

[spare delta]

yup i used wall on 1st one and build agro and then just run forward

[tame garden]

Ya that's p much all you can do

[spare delta]

hunter pet can taunt it and sack pet for that

want to try it but need to know accurate cast time

Healer has aswell played ping pong with me but i think its better to run

[exotic spoke]

I don’t think there is one. Especially with spell queuing - but I could be wrong

More of a CD than a timer of when it’s cast

[spare delta]

just casters cannot do that much

[sterile mantle]

Which sword sheild combo

[tame garden]

That's your punishment for playing with casters

Just bring 3 melee 4head

[exotic spoke]

Take the highest Ilvl?

[sterile mantle]

I gain 460 boots using the corrupted weapon

[spare delta]

i kinda like fire mage atm 🙂

[exotic spoke]

Like, a 20 Ilvl increase in a weapon is huge

[sterile mantle]

Sadly that racing veins 3 is wasted

./cry

We are like 1%wipes on heroic vex

Did lfr tonjust get vantus rune recipe

[craggy harness]

were you raiding with me last night lol

[sterile mantle]

I only asked cause the 430 weapon simmed higher dps is all

[craggy harness]

If you feel you need to be less squishy go higher ilvl

Just your comfort level

at that point of wanting more dps vs less squish

[exotic spoke]

Mmm I’m doing it @warm plinth @tame garden I’m socketting crit for more dps

[tame garden]

[exotic spoke]

5 crit gems to replace 5 haste gems

[steel thunder]

What is the best Enchant for M+10/HC+Mythic Nyalotha raids as warri tank?

force multiplier?

[warm plinth]

Force Multiplier

[steel thunder]

thx for fast reply. i guess tempo for rings/gems + 80/120str gems

[warm plinth]

Tempo = haste I'm guessing?

[tame garden]

Yes

[warm plinth]

Then yes

Some folks choose not to use the 80 str one but it really should be better for most people.

[tame garden]

80 is for plebs

[warm plinth]

Rude

[exotic spoke]

He’s talking about me. I used 120 strength and then haste. /shrug

[warm plinth]

I wasn't. There's a lot of people who don't use the 80 str one

[tame garden]

Because 80 is for plebs

[craggy harness]

because 19% haste triggered me

[maiden ravine]

haha, all the DHs signing up for an 11 underrot

[craggy harness]

and i'm a follower, not a leader.

[warm plinth]

Don't hate on our tusks 😠

[exotic spoke]

50% haste with ITTF - non pleb here

[craggy harness]

do you dissolve into an orgiastic puddle when in a minor heroic vision

and you get to 200% haste

(if so, see a doctor)

[exotic spoke]

No, good question though.

I miss my 2x MS and 2x OP though. Can’t wait to get those back

[sweet summit]

not going for HoD?

[exotic spoke]

I personally think MS is better until you get the end of tier pieces but I’ll have to play around with them. Have a long time to try 🙂

[sweet summit]

true that

[exotic spoke]

Plus my options are either like 15 corruption or 50 right now

[sweet summit]

feelsgood

[exotic spoke]

Yeah. About that

[tame garden]

15 pog

[exotic spoke]

Hi Speg

[tame garden]

Hello

Do I push 1800 tonight or do I cap and give up as usual

[exotic spoke]

Push 2800 obv

[tame garden]

I suck at pvp tho

[exotic spoke]

Ohhh pvp.

I thought you meant Io

[tame garden]

Implying I'm not 1800 yet

How dare you

[exotic spoke]

Look I’m old and washed up when talking about pvp

That’s why I said 2800! I thought you were joking

[tame garden]

The pvp azerite is rly sick for bear in m+

But I'm lazy

[exotic spoke]

Yeah I need to do pvp too. But CBA

[mortal brook]

rival can give 475 azerite. pretty big

[ornate light]

Probably very silly questions I’m getting in to warier tanking what gams and entrance for PVE new to tanking On warrior

[maiden ravine]

I hate people that DC the moment a run isn't going to help their io

Like loot still effing matters

Last boss of Underrot, what's the basic strat on that cause it always feels like a massive cluster to me

[tame garden]

I love that boss

Good boss

[elder berry]

stack on tank and get out of the way when boss does AoE cone

[exotic spoke]

Everyone stacks on the tank. You move him around the edge of the room. When he starts to cast you move through and past him to make room

This way he’s always breathing where there’s already shit

[maiden ravine]

Like I thought it was keep him on the outside and try to make him spew into stuff he's already done

[tame garden]

Yes

[maiden ravine]

okay, I was told that was wrong

[tame garden]

Dont listen to pugs

[exotic spoke]

Nah it’s right

Like what were they trying to say?

[tame garden]

Doing blob with him is fun

[maiden ravine]

Aim it inside so the dps can actually get the mobs

[tame garden]

What mobs

Dps should be focusing boss only

[maiden ravine]

I was trying to do the caster mob with it, but it wasn't going well

[tame garden]

Oh yeah idk doing caster with pugs sounds shit

[maiden ravine]

Quel'thalas monk D/C'd the moment we weren't going to time it

[tame garden]

Cant call kicks

[maiden ravine]

Quel'thalas monk D/C'd the moment we weren't going to time it

Oh well, I'm just done for the week pushing my own key

GET YOUR CRAP TOGETHER DISCORD

[exotic spoke]

Yeah it was scuffed

Seems better now

[tame garden]

Personally I dont do lieutenant with last boss in pugs

Cba

[exotic spoke]

^^

[maiden ravine]

it was easy last week, probably cause fort

Underrot is a weird dungeon cause of how many bosses you want/need lust on

[tame garden]

Eh It works out nicely

[exotic spoke]

Really only want it on crawg. You use it on the others because you want it on CD

Ends up being 1,2,4

[tame garden]

Ye underrot has good lusts

[sweet summit]

cant decide between BfI or IF. decide for me please you sexy gamers <3

[tame garden]

Does IF do anything besides give block

[exotic spoke]

Flip a coin 🙂

Technically some damage

[sweet summit]

great idea riki

ill do that

[maiden ravine]

yeah, I'm gonna settle for a 14 I guess, so close yet so far away

and there's no way I'm paying 500k for a 15 haha

[exotic spoke]

People do. A surprising amount of people do

Business is good 🙂

[maiden ravine]

people freaking pay 160k for a 10

I'll tank a 10 for 40k if someone wanted to

[exotic spoke]

Yeah, and what about the other three people?

If they all want 40k too then it gets up to 160k 🙂

[tame garden]

Ya lmao

That math

[spark mortar]

So what are the essences that folks are rocking for M+ dominance these days?

[exotic spoke]

Vision major, pick three - CnS Lucid sphere aegis and if you need corruption resist - formless void

[tame garden]

It's true tho m+ sales are wild now

I used to boost for 20k cuts in s2

[exotic spoke]

I got someone to pay like 1M for an untimed 20 last day of s2

[elder berry]

some of it is probably because of new season and people trying to farm corrupt gear

[tame garden]

Ya ofc

But 115k cut for untimed 15 is just

[exotic spoke]

Guarantee. And it’ll drop off as the tier goes on

[tame garden]

Insane

[exotic spoke]

It’s great 🙂

[maiden ravine]

I'm hoping I get a good chest tomorrow, and I get to buy a new azerite piece for a 30 ilvl upgrade which will help

[exotic spoke]

Getting gear, especially a shield, made it so much easier again. Feels like nothing really changed other than affixes 🙂

[maiden ravine]

I have a 460 weapon and shield, still feel squishy as hell

[exotic spoke]

Got a 465. Still need a mythic one but it’s almost back to normal

[maiden ravine]

I need the azerite upgrades cause that's a whopping 2700 stamina or something over 450s

[tame garden]

Ilvl pog

[maiden ravine]

I mean more stamina and armor is huge for us

I just want to feel less squishy on pulls bigger than 3 mobs

[dawn jasper]

Maybe a dumb question, but did Blizz do anything to the explosive orbs this season? I'm finding it harder to tab to them, whereas last season I found I could easily tab to them and take them out in large packs. This season I'm more often having to actually click on them. Is this just me being a filthy casual trash tank or..?

[tame garden]

They changed

[warm plinth]

They basically made it so you don't immediately enter combat with them when they spawn. So you don't get into combat with them until you hit them really.

And since tab targeting prioritizes things you're in combat with, it's difficult to tab target them.

[tame garden]

L2click

[noble ingot]

Click like its 2004

[dawn jasper]

Ahh copy. Thanks heaps guys!

[warm plinth]

I always clicked them anyway fortunately for me XD

Always had a tendency to over-tab if I tried tab targeting

[tame garden]

Tabbing always was unreliable for me

I click orbs and most kicks that arent on focus

[warm plinth]

Same

[west galleon]

idk if something changed but my tab target deadass would not go on the orb today

[tame garden]

See above

[grizzled star]

l2click omegalul

[west galleon]

yes that's why i said that

[tame garden]

Ghash explained what changed

Orbs are no longer auto combat that's why you cant tab easily

[chilly brook]

Speaking of orbs

They still not able to be VRd from?

[warm plinth]

I don’t think so Griff. I think someone would have reported it working again if it did 😦

[shut summit]

nop

[urban briar]

what are the bezt trinketz for prot?

[warm plinth]

Vita, rezan, block, dragon scale

[raven flower]

He, is [Salvaged Mekacycle Shielding] a nice shield for m+ or shoud i tanke an other 365 shield?

[warm plinth]

If it’s your highest shield, use it. But equal ilevel, use the other

[chilly brook]

Bro we're getting close to almost half a year of it being broke without a peep Y I K E S

[warm plinth]

Well tbf we’ve had worse bugs stay in the game for years so I’m not too surprised

Feral druid hit box wasn’t fixed until like wrath. Balance druid bug is still a thing and has been since forever

[tame garden]

vr off orbs was dumb anyway

[maiden ravine]

it's probably intentional now

[craggy harness]

we can still VR in underrot right lol

[warm plinth]

It was confirmed to be a bug by a GM so we still have hope

[maiden ravine]

GMs know shit

[warm plinth]

Yeah afaik it still works on spores

[shut summit]

still works on spores

[craggy harness]

phew