alms for the poor?
#protection
analog zinc
guess i'm going into raid with 74 corruptionj
craggy harness
I only got that shield because i DIDN'T type "i wish i had corruption to play with"
after city's post
analog zinc
no i wanna parse
strong forum
Actually it's kinda decent ye
sick sentinel
Should I just cleanse this crit heal and damage I take by 4%
strong forum
It's big damgur if you proc multiple at once
sick sentinel
sick sentinel
wait, does leech crit heal?
sick sentinel
nvm we keeping it
strong forum
Leech works off of crits too
But the leech itself idk if it can crit
Check your logs
Don't think it can
undone sun
pretty sure it cannot
sick sentinel
So this corruption won't work with it
craggy harness
well, i guess it'd be a possible double crit
if leech could could crit
since on the damage, and then th eheal
still flame
um so I think the ring I got from chest is #bad -- would you replace either of my current with it?
strong forum
Na, that'd make leech actually insane
glacial flint
@analog zinc https://wago.io/Corruptforged/4
strong forum
Ye cleanse that pochoo, unless you have nothing better
sick sentinel
still flame
@strong forum what do you mean by if I have nothing better? what im wearing is best of what I've got. would you cleanse and use that over one of the rings I currently use or nah?
strong forum
I mean corruption wise
If you have no other corruptions and you don't go above 40,youre free to use the void ritual.
It pains to not use a haste ring but it's got decent crit
still flame
Oh! well right now ive got Void Ritual on another piece (+7 to stats so ring is better) and ive also got this:
strong forum
That's prolly the best corruption you have
The void t1 is almost useless, especially if nobody else is running it
still flame
yeah
so cleanse both Void Ritual corruptions you think?
or maybe just the worse one
analog zinc
i downloaded that WA & it doesn't show up for the thing from beyond until its moving
like i'll see it spawn & stand still for a few secs then it'll start moving & the WA will activate
strong forum
You can keep the void ritual on Ring and use the belt
If you cloak is r7+ you should be below 40 corruption
west kayak
I got something good. 🙂
analog zinc
does rank 9 give you more corruption resist
sick sentinel
I believe we will be getting 8 resistance today 
analog zinc
so if i upgrade my cloak & use a new essence i'd be under 60 corruption
too bad i dont have time before raid :<
guess i'm clearing heroic at 74
still flame
thanks @strong forum -- I cleansed the crummy Void Ritual one. Now at 23 corruption -- id love to get under 20 so will need to figure that out
west kayak
I completed a +12 last week. Hence 470.
sick sentinel
12-14 gives 470
still flame
Need to get 4 pages for R9 -- can you do it in one Vision?
sick sentinel
Clear whole zone 🤪
analog zinc
pretty sure yea
strong forum
Need to do all zones afaik
analog zinc
i think lost areas give pages
sick sentinel
Is it just me or is storm wind significantly harder
warm plinth
It's not just you. I find it harder as well.
strong forum
SW is harder for melee I've been told
exotic spoke
It’s rng but it’s possible to get it in one run I believe
warm plinth
But tbh that's mostly because Org is kind of a joke
The Drag and Valley of Spirits are stupid easy
strong forum
Jokes are great
exotic spoke
Going for double mask full clear this week
sick sentinel
I know you can just fuckin blast through org
craggy harness
SW week was the hotfoot fire though, so felt like a bad comparison
warm plinth
I was so ahead of the full clear timer last week (first full clear attempt and first time doing Valley of Wisdom) that I used like half a sanity bar just running around looking for chests. And I still started the boss with 650 sanity and an un-used orb (which I used because why not)
still flame
wow nice. is there a proper order for getting the Research abilities
craggy harness
i saw a recommendation to go with the solo abilities
until you get the elite gives 200 sanity one
warm plinth
Basically you want orb>one side of the next tier>chests>elite extermination
analog zinc
simming way lower than i thought i would :<
opal python
what essences are people going for vexiona?
warm plinth
Though personally if I had gone group side on the 2nd level (right side), I would probably skip the rez thing because like...just don't die
opal python
for surviving, wanna get the fight down then get around to getting good dps logs
deft socket
440 belt w/tier 3 echo void or 475 belt with tier 2 echo?
analog zinc
@opal python parses are irrelevent on vex
i do great dmg & my best parse is a 55
versus every other boss which is like 90+ with a couple 99s
still flame
o ok
opal python
yh
still flame
thanks @warm plinth
analog zinc
vision is better defensively
opal python
aight, cheers!
so i got null and strength of warden as minor, what 3rd minor should i generally go for?
memory or conflict?
if i choose crucible major for dmg, i'd go with vision minor as last. but if i go vision major hm?
sterile mantle
I feel slighted with this ring....lol
warm plinth
Uh, why
sterile mantle
The if proc lol
warm plinth
who cares man, T3 EV
sterile mantle
warm plinth
You're gonna be using that shit for a long time
craggy harness
yes
sterile mantle
ill probably save till i get more corruption resist..that amount of Corruption might make raid harder lol
vale bobcat
just got 470 t3 infinite stars on legs, do u think its worth cleansing a 460 searing breath sword to equip
topaz sphinx
Hi quick question hopefully but when trying to work out what gear is best/upgrades etc should I be looking more at what AskMrRobot is saying or is it better to check Raidbots/IcyVeins or WoWhead etc? As they seem to conflict one another or it might just be me misreading it 😂
warm plinth
You should forget that AMR exists. For damage, always sim on raidbots. For survival, icy-veins is your go-to.
sterile mantle
How hard will Drand delusions hit at 58 corruption
warm plinth
Quite hard I would imagine
sterile mantle
yea i might have to wait till i get more CR for that ring
warm plinth
And will move very quickly so it'll be hard to CC it in time
sterile mantle
Ill probably take the 10 ilvl drop for the sheild
warm plinth
Wait, what do you mean
sterile mantle
topaz sphinx
Ah right so AMR is a bit of a waste of time for us then?
warm plinth
You don't drop ilevel on shield, even for corruption
warm plinth
AMR is just a bad resource for everyone
sterile mantle
oh ok yea, i didnt think about that
Anyone here pvp and know how what ilvl the quarter masters notes will make pvp stuff
topaz sphinx
Ah right a couple of people I know recommend AMR but they are more healing/dps based
warm plinth
They shouldn't be using it either tbh but they aren't here XD
topaz sphinx
My sim at the min is about 27k because I was using AMR and focusing on the versatility 😂
strong forum
I haven't heard anyone seriously use amr ever
Maybe before the days of simming, but I wasn't that invested into pve wow before simming was the thing to do
topaz sphinx
My bad 😂 . I've only recently switched to prot warrior since near the end of 8.2 so still learning lol
craggy harness
i was using it for my lock in WoD beginning of legion
shrugs It's a tool.
Cheap cloud resources changing things though
topaz sphinx
Yeah thats true and thanks for the help 😄
strong forum
It do be like that City
mortal jay
is this even worth downgrading 40 ilvl just for the leech? I dont have any other corruption
strong forum
No
warm plinth
No
mortal jay
figured
deft socket
I have a 475 t2 echo void and a 440 t3 echo void... gotta run the t3 right?
Same gear slot
warm plinth
🤦♂️
strong forum
I would try using both tbh captmorgan
Oh same gear slot
Rippy
I'd use the 440 then
It's 5k dps difference
deft socket
Thats what im thinking.
wooden radish
@warm plinth what did you get out of your weekly chest
strong forum
Like im using 410 over 465 pants just for t1 EV, that's practically the same difference
warm plinth
T1 TD gloves and a shitty trinket from PvP chest
deft socket
Unfortunate lol. If i ran the t2 ev. I could use pants that 12 percent mastery corruption
warm plinth
I've managed to go up a whole 2 ilevels or some shit since the season started because all I've done is replace my gloves 3 times and get a pair of bracers
deft socket
But i dont think thats worth ir
warm plinth
To be fair to the trinket, it's probably not garbage. It has an interesting effect. It's just only PvP
analog zinc
died on maut from corruption
17 stacks & a TFB spawned inside me
17 circle stacks*
exotic spoke
Up to 461 equipped and when I get home I get to roll the dice on a 475 + mythic azerite piece
warm plinth
435 inkpod, 430 socketed boots are the real cockblockers lol
exotic spoke
I think I’m 467 or so in bags? Have two shit trinkets and some other things
warm plinth
Yeah I'm 460.56 in bags, but only 452.75 equipped
modern brook
I fucking suck this patch tbh dude
my damage is in the shitter and idk if its just gear or all me :/
warm plinth
I still ❤️ you Bull
modern brook
thanks ghash
sick sentinel
just spam keys
exotic spoke
^^ and hope your luck is better than mine
sick sentinel
Honestly a lot of people’s damage looks/feels bad until they get good corruption
oh I mean like
spam your buttons
you'll do damage
sick sentinel
I have found that damage is directly correlated to casts per minute
Don’t change my mind
exotic spoke
Hawgz we could never change your mind
modern brook
hes just right tbh
how many times are you forced to press a button that isnt clap or slam?
exotic spoke
If you have EV you better not ever have an empty GCD as you’re losing out on damage from EV procs
exotic spoke
Yessir
exotic spoke
And nerf to quaking if done properly
exotic spoke
I wonder how fortified works with obelisks - never got a chance to test them on PTR
exotic spoke
I meant if they are fortified like emissaries were
topaz sphinx
How much fun is the new affix btw?
exotic spoke
That’s good
sick sentinel
More fun than anything we've had Osil
topaz sphinx
I didn't mind the reaping one but begulling wasn't fun lol
sweet summit
their adds are also not affected my fort/tyrann?
exotic spoke
Makes not having a rogue less painful by far. Still good but not mandatory
spare viper
whats the word on wv major for m+
warm plinth
So question for you guys lol
exotic spoke
It can pump
warm plinth
How did you handle the slime lieutenant in TD?
sick sentinel
New affix is amazing tbh
warm plinth
Because fuck that guy in there
sick sentinel
the slime guy?
I usually just grab Aggro and move away
He's the easiest one
They kill tentacles and swap
warm plinth
There's no room in TD. His slime covers the entire hallway
sick sentinel
you just take him, run away and snap the tentacles
and have everyone murder them while you run to your kite spite
spot*
Don’t be afraid to move him far if u have to
exotic spoke
Starting to do him with some bosses - depending on the dungeon.
warm plinth
We've not had much luck snapping the tentacles; not sure if we're choosing bad spots or what the deal is. If anyone has a good video of that, I'd love to have it.
exotic spoke
Next is going to be doing spider and slime
warm plinth
Yeah don't think we're doing him with Korgus though XD
modern brook
I find it really weird that 9s are harder than 10s now
sick sentinel
Ye you literally just hide in corner
modern brook
the enw affix makes a lot of skips and shit fucking braindead
exotic spoke
It opens up a lot more skips too bull
modern brook
like imagine running Motherload and not having to worry if your brainlets of dpsers can handle the deathskip
sick sentinel
Just don't have brain dead people
warm plinth
Even when we LoS, they don't end up bunching up that close together. It's not like a traditional snap where everything is right on top of each other.
exotic spoke
ML was easy last week imo
modern brook
it was easy on Fort bolster week too tbh
warm plinth
Yeah ML was the one key we did that we probably could have timed if we had played clean
thin obsidian
I got a question how i should balance corruption as a prot warrior. Any pros? ;D
exotic spoke
Obelisk to boss -> hero -> back clear trash -> repeat
warm plinth
We tried something interesting in Siege. Obelisked from 2nd boss to the spotter and then used spotter to back clear trash
sick sentinel
RN
warm plinth
Would've worked but we pulled a demolisher by accident
sick sentinel
spotter does less damage than if you were to wait and take time using spotter
exotic spoke
It depends on your options, your group, your gear, etc right now svedde
sick sentinel
than just killing it and plowing through
the key levels rn are too low for spotter to help much
lunar jackal
guys are the bracers with on use parry avoidance good?
exotic spoke
I would say mess around with it but up to 40 doesn’t seem bad
warm plinth
Seemed to do a lot of damage for us 🤔
modern brook
Obelisk to boss -> hero -> back clear trash -> repeat
@exotic spoke just clear the circle and then chain skip to bosses
exotic spoke
Losing out on heroism’s on boss Bull
modern brook
RE: corruption the concensus nubmer ive heard has been 39
Doesnt matter on fort 🤷♂️
sick sentinel
It does damage obviously but not as much damage as taking the time to actually keep him and fiddling with it
exotic spoke
I can have hero for pretty much every single Boss
warm plinth
XD
modern brook
also im willing to argue that the time saved from lust is <= time spent back tracking
warm plinth
My group is still like 3/5 corruption right now. I don't think our hunter has anything yet, nor our rogue I don't think.
exotic spoke
We aren’t really back tracking since we circle around 😛
thin obsidian
@exotic spoke which of the corruptions are the best for mainly m+?
exotic spoke
EV / TD
thin obsidian
Worth dropping main stat for these?
sick sentinel
Personally I would
modern brook
probably
sick sentinel
for tanks, it's huge
warm plinth
Pretty much anything but a shield tbh
modern brook
itd depend on the item slot yeah
Was about to shields and arguably weapons probably not
Trinkets and rings without a second thought you would drop ilvl for corruption
warm plinth
Trinkets can't corrupt I thought?
warm plinth
Listen Bull
thin obsidian
I got this one today. but dropping a 445 haste vers ring, 300 haste 180 vers
warm plinth
❤️
modern brook
from a DPS perspective you could just sim it
it wouldnt account for defensive benefits, obviously, but then corruption doesnt help defensively*
thin obsidian
I just got back to the game so this is all new. iam trying to learn how i should think when it comes to corruption pieces
exotic spoke
A t1 TD is a tough decision. If that was T3 I’d do it. Or T2 EV
thin obsidian
the corruption pieces i got right now, its that ring, i got the faralos sword. also a t1 EV weapon
modern brook
we only get upt o like 50 Corruption resistence right?
between back and the essence if u use it
strong forum
EV t1 is ~4-5k dps so yeah. Giga worth
thin obsidian
If i use ring + faralos i get 35. i only got rank 4 back yet tho
The T1 EV is better then faralos sword? best is to have a Ev on ring i guess?
thin obsidian
Oh ok, ill keep my EV weapon then until i get a EV ring or something in that way
strong forum
Ye, sucks but at the same time kinda doesn't
Tbh I kinda wanna try a Gushing wounds build
But that takes tremendous rng to get 3-5 of those
sick sentinel
Is bursting considered magic or physical?
warm plinth
Magic
thin obsidian
thanks for the help guys 🙂
strong forum
Necrotic is physical
Bursting is magical
warm plinth
@modern brook At level 14/15 cloak you have 50 resist from cloak, and 10 from essence. And then each week after that you can get up 3 CR per week (not sure where that caps)
that = cloak level 15
glass finch
12% more vers when I only have about 300 ... good or cleansable?
warm plinth
Cleansable
modern brook
tyhash
warm plinth
That's not even as much vers as a socket 😦
glass finch
Yeah thought so. It brings me from 4% to 7% and it’s a food defensive benefit but like I want better corruption.
warm plinth
Wait, how does it give you 3%? 300*1.12 = 336?
exotic spoke
Do you have any other corruption?
glass finch
Not at the computer, I’ll check the exact numbers. Other corruption is Faralos and 475 shield with the tentacle.
It’s partly because the gloves themselves with the 12% vers give me +120 vers to put on.
exotic spoke
Cleanse - shield is good. Faralos isn’t that good but if you don’t have other options I’d use those
glass finch
Vers haste 475 gloves I thought that was a pretty good roll in itself.
glass finch
OK 293 not wearing the gloves, the gloves themselves give me +147 which brings me to 440, 440 x.12 = 53, 493 overall vers once they're equipped. That's 6%, not 7%. @warm plinth
Still cleansable I assume.
warm plinth
Yeah, I'd go with what Riki said
glass finch
Alrighty.
light vale
Does anyone know if overwhelming power stacks with itself or do you only want one?
limpid pawn
stacks
exotic spoke
Aww thanks qtpie Bull
modern brook
np plz subscribe to my onlyfans
exotic spoke
Ok bb
undone sun
hmmm
modern brook
and yeah op stacks
ivory barn
sims is telling me to purify the 6% haste from all sources, but I need to go get R9 cloak today
cause I just picked up a 470 Twilight r1 ring
exotic spoke
@warm plinth not even touching that
lunar jackal
guys are the anonized deflectors good bracers than raw stats?
the mechagon one
ones*
exotic spoke
No, if you have other bracers they are likely better
lunar jackal
they are still ilvl upgrade with rank 2 infinite stars but just in case i had other on the go
30 ilvl
also should i dump one BOM for a 475 azerite (replaced azerite would be 445)
warm plinth
Yes
shut stag
In terms of rings, should I go ilvl or stats?
Im looking at a 470 vers/mastery+189 avoidance or a 460 with 371 haste/193 vers?
exotic spoke
Then yes I’d use the bracers because of that info
warm plinth
Typically ilevel even on rings
lunar jackal
@warm plinth were u saying yes to the azerite or the bracers?
warm plinth
The azerite
somber sky
big?
sick sentinel
gross
warm plinth
😬
west kayak
Not bad for huge packs but yea, dropping block is dangerous.
warm plinth
XD
warm plinth
ngl barrage is fun af to meme with
sick sentinel
It's not even a meme
i'ts the play in wcm
Maggots do the most group wide damage
and you can kill them before they even cast
wiped 3 times in wcm 18
chested it with 2 minutes
warm plinth
Wait, what major is that guy running???
sick sentinel
World vein
world vein, fell barrage and gale callers are all 1 minute
so you bank everything into world vein
somber sky
my life is ass :( got rank 1 twisting appendage
warm plinth
There are worse things.
sick sentinel
World vein is huge
even for prot, world vein does the most aoe damage
and is close on ST also
warm plinth
Sorry that was directed at MrRox, not you Nike
sick sentinel
oh ye
warm plinth
How fast must barrage cast with furious gaze and galecaller lol
steel spire
Why are some prot warriors runing c&s major in m+?
warm plinth
Like 125% haste or some shit
sick sentinel
it's like 200%
limpid pawn
to root and kite things during necrotic probably dvops
steel spire
thanks @limpid pawn
hushed cobalt
For prot m+, vop > world vein major, even if you had others using the vein right?
grand drum
Dont rooted enemies hit the closest thing to them?
hushed cobalt
Even with group coordination?
warm plinth
@grand drum No, there are some mobs who will use their primary ability (not auto-attack) on enemies that are closest to them if the tank is not in range, but there aren't a huge amount of mobs that do that.
rocky garnet
is high level corruption bad?
exotic spoke
World vein can pump
rocky garnet
i have some insane corruption pieces now but idk if we want all of them on
exotic spoke
Rule of thumb is under 40 but you can do more
rocky garnet
yeah im at like 100 lol
warm plinth
You gon' die
exotic spoke
^^
warm plinth
Going above 80 as a tank is suicide because it increases your damage taken and reduces healing done to you
rocky garnet
what is better out of these two
warm plinth
But most people prefer sub-40 because you don't have to deal with the add spawn
rocky garnet
the pulse damage or the dev
warm plinth
EV is more consistent so I'd probably go with that imo
rocky garnet
is the increased crit worth?
warm plinth
It's not bad. But depends on how much crit you have to begin with and what your other corruption options are
exotic spoke
You’re at 68 right now with your Corruption resist from cloak
rocky garnet
oh yeah true
exotic spoke
Crit to bracers is minimal - replace or cleanse (ideally replace and hold
rocky garnet
you think 70 is ok?
warm plinth
I would not run anything over 59 at most
exotic spoke
No lol. That gets you to 58. Using a new essence gets you to 48. Still too high imo
warm plinth
But personally would not want over 39 because Thing from Beyond can fuck you up
exotic spoke
So, do you have a replacement legs right now?
exotic spoke
Swap the legs. That gets you to 43. Can try that and use a new essence potentially if you don’t have a replacement bracers to get to 33
rocky garnet
and take off bracers too?
oh
didnt read whole thing]
thanks bros
@warm plinth your advice helped a lot ive been doing higher keys a lot easier now
warm plinth
I get it right every now and then XD
rocky garnet
still trying to get to a 15 hopefully this week or next
analog zinc
damn heroic this week only took 2h25
my parses were kinda crap tho
only improved my skitra & carapace parses
got the carapace shoulders tho! just need 90 more residuum to go buy a mythic chest & then i'll have full mythic (-5 on shoulders)
naive panther
did they nerf EV again to day?
random urchin
Did they?
warm plinth
Not that I've seen
strong forum
the OG has returned
wheat talon
with the nerf to enemy hp in visions as tank spec (and a 60 corrupt echoing void) is it worth considering doing visions as prot?
daring bay
From what i heard its best to start off as prot then switch to dps for thrall
And rexar
wheat talon
you can switch mid vision?
warm plinth
Yeah he didn't get a .5% EV. The tiers are .8/1.2/2
wheat talon
yeah my EV is still at 2
warm plinth
He probably just misread it
random urchin
Yeah, checked my shamans bracers. Still 2%
strong forum
simpad unlocked
warm plinth
XD
daring matrix
Maybe someone has an idea: have i any chanche to proc Logic Loop of Synergy (
Equip: If you heal a target whose health is below 50%...) as Prot, or it is one for the scrapper xD
strong crown
how good is twilight devastation on proc and is it worth 50 Corruption(before reductions) for 12% of health done as dmg
I got it on a 470 charged sandstone ring
warm plinth
Idk, if you used IP or Victory Rush it might proc it if you were below 50%, but since our design is that we don't get below 50% that often, it would proc rarely if ever.
strong forum
even more pad
warm plinth
Ideally you want the one that requires you to cast 3 spells
random urchin
Twilight can blast, is it good? Depends on what your other corruptions are.
strong forum
TD is 2nd best for aoe
daring matrix
VR is an idea, IP dont work i think more junkyard xD
warm plinth
But yeah, just get the 3 spells one and you're set
daring matrix
that was the plan 😄 but blizz hates me 😄
naive panther
i got 465 high crit with haste of the one cast three spells, but don't have any of the other rings yet
warm plinth
The rings only have one version
naive panther
i would use that corrupted ring though lol
wooden radish
@exotic spoke sup
warm plinth
The cast 3 spells one is always going to be high crit with haste
naive panther
yeah i never farmed mech before never knew
got my vop then was done
and that was mostly just getting in last boss groups
warm plinth
So you want that one, and then the haste proc which is high haste with mastery
exotic spoke
Doing well @wooden radish. A little sad I couldn’t find a UR15 last week. But I’m pretty geared out Ilvl wise.
naive panther
and that's only from workshop?
exotic spoke
So, still worth doing those 40+ m+ last week
wooden radish
i went up 12 item levels in the last week
warm plinth
Yeah, the effect ones are from Machinist's Garden
wooden radish
well 12 item levels since Wednesday
exotic spoke
I’m like 460 or 461 equipped. Have 430 T2 TD and two old trinkets - since I haven’t gotten new good ones. But otherwise solid
warm plinth
I've gone up like...3 ilevel this patch so far 😦
naive panther
460 right now too, need a shield and trinkets and boots
wooden radish
im going to hit 1 million unbuffed HP i think
naive panther
ev1 and td1`
wooden radish
big pog
naive panther
you using anima minor then?
wooden radish
no
warm plinth
😬
warm plinth
Anima minor is garbage
wooden radish
im at 650 unbuffed with 450 azerite. getting 475 is another 250k alone
warm plinth
And the major is only used in islands
exotic spoke
I have a 465 shield. But it’s literally the worst shield 😦
warm plinth
You're 1 million
wooden radish
@jolly trout 👋
warm plinth
But, not as cute as @outer dew
wooden radish
@ionic fern 
exotic spoke
^^
deft socket
What is the total health bonus from tauren racial at 120?
deft socket
Thats pretty weak
strong forum
yup, just like racials are supposed to be
autumn pendant
I just felt like adding something to it
outer dew
@warm plinthi still cant get over how cute a song is
Basically goes 2 + 3 = 5
So let me hold your hand
And it's cute because 5 sounds like hold
ivory barn
im gonna go cry now. r1 devastation is better than the haste from all sources https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9JHcZhKkQL4oJjFJgW4zdg
strong forum
for now
strong forum
i mean 6% haste more from all sources really is very little
ivory barn
im working toward the engy helm and blacksmith waist atm
strong forum
what you were comparing was 120 haste at 2k haste vs a 39k+ dmg proc that can crit
ivory barn
oh that makes more sense
strong forum
🙂
ivory barn
right now my goal is to get the engy M helm and roll on the 475 shoulders
strong forum
ye kinda same
ivory barn
then go after blacksmithing waist
ivory barn
i need 8 heroic boss's to craft the mythic stuff
strong forum
13 here 👐
ivory barn
is there a point in creating a WA for when the twilight procs?
strong forum
not really
once it procs you have no control over it
you just see massive beam going in X direction
strong forum
i can give you
warm plinth
❤️
craggy harness
you want to see the boom
strong forum
warm plinth
ty bb
strong forum
starts glowing when EV is proccing
ivory barn
i made one
warm plinth
Does it show anything for stacks Nome?
strong forum
ye it shows the stacks
craggy harness
j/k, but the boom
nimble cosmos
i have been looking to learn prot warrior, what are good resources for learning the spec?
warm plinth
okie dokie
nimble cosmos
thanks a ton
craggy harness
how's today's vision affix
nimble cosmos
could be worse
craggy harness
its not hot feet bad?
strong forum
vision affixes matter?
craggy harness
eh, i dived in too fast on first SW week solo
not looking forward to repeat that lol
exotic spoke
If going for more than just a clear they can Nome
Going for two mask clear this week 🙂
strong forum
staying with 2 zone clear this week 
ivory barn
we did 2 3 zones and got 1480 momentos from it
exotic spoke
I’ll rephrase
strong forum
i absolutely despise dailies
exotic spoke
There are so many extra runs if you do the daily visions / daily quests / three assaults a week
exotic spoke
Not even the visions?
strong forum
i missed 4 of 7 this week
strong forum
🙂
cuz i just forget about it
and i dont care enough
i get my 2 keys a week from assaults
why should i bother with the other stuff
exotic spoke
You won’t have enough to keep up thoug
You’re going to fall behind on cloak levels
And sockets
ivory barn
i have a legit 3 spare keys in my bank rn
exotic spoke
Have 4 or 5 right now. And it’s way more than once every 5 weeks Nome
ivory barn
if you full clear them yes
exotic spoke
You can get 5k mementos a run with masks
strong forum
ill do just fine
exotic spoke
You can get 5 runs a week with some grinding
ivory barn
i got shy of 1500 with 3 players clearing 3 zones and we only opened like 3 chests
exotic spoke
That’s a socket a week
strong forum
doesnt seem worth to put so many hours a week for just a socket to me
especially since i have to do everything by myself
exotic spoke
¯_(ツ)_/¯
strong forum
cuz my autism friends HAVE TO DO ALL KEYS on reset
exotic spoke
I think we got over 3k last week in our full mask clears
exotic spoke
Okie dokie
inland mesa
you're doing full 5 mask clears already riki?
tame garden
world content 👎
exotic spoke
There are days I definitely can’t do the dailies on. But typically try to spend an hour knocking them out
No, working towards it. Did a full mask clear and had so much time left last week before we got geared
Going for two mask this week
It’s a means to an end Speg
inland mesa
I've just been doing whatever is needed for cloak before raid on Tuesday and then forgetting about it
exotic spoke
I enjoy visions and I enjoy killing horde / pvping so I’ll do some dailies in warmode
inland mesa
do you stay tank for them, or go dps? 5 man it?
strong forum
world content is big turnoff, agreed
inland mesa
what's your M+ comp, and a healer?
exotic spoke
Rdruid rogue hdh spriest prot war
inland mesa
the healer just to do even bigger packs?
exotic spoke
Safety more so than anything else
He spends most of his time dpsing just like in m+
autumn pendant
Its possible
strong forum
is that even remotely possible
modern brook
Dont the masks just give u more things that u use to get more things?
autumn pendant
People already clearing 2-3 masks all objectives
exotic spoke
Yeah. People have been doing 3 masks already
DH is super good for it. If I had two solid EV pieces or an EV and IS I’d try a solo clear
Yes bull and make. It harder
modern brook
So like why tho
warm plinth
the masks increase health/damage of enemies too but that's not a huge issue for the most part for DH
modern brook
if the cape is capped per week
autumn pendant
modern brook
OHHHH
warm plinth
More mementos = faster tree completion = faster socket buys
autumn pendant
@modern brook solo content, fun
warm plinth
Plus yeah, they're fun
random urchin
Yep, it’s that socket grind
autumn pendant
I mean
modern brook
Sockets was the answer i was looking for
warm plinth
I'm doing them for fun as well
modern brook
I knew there was a reason ppl were grinding them
autumn pendant
^
modern brook
lol i cant even afford to gem my sockets i get through rng
random urchin
I enjoy them. My goal is to solo w/ 5 masks eventually. Sockets is just a bonus.
You can’t afford gems?!
analog zinc
i failed a 1 mask full clear
cuz stormwind is fucking cancer
can blizz delete this fucking vision
& we can just do org all the time
autumn pendant
Rude
analog zinc
i lost hundreds of sanity on shaw
because blizzard doesn't know how to tell you what the fuck you're suposed to do
analog zinc
yeah look away from eyes
how the actual fuck was I supposed to know that
immortal eyes that shoot through LOS
warm plinth
There's a pretty thorough guide on wowhead for it. Many youtube guides
true plover
cleanse some 475 t3 haste proc gloves or live with the 60+ corruption for two weeks??
warm plinth
I would not live with 60 corruption
But whether you should cleanse it or not depends on what your other effects are
analog zinc
having to look up a guide to understand basic mechanics is shit game design
true plover
That's the only one I'm able to cleanse. I have a t3 TD that isn't going to move, lol.
warm plinth
So you want to just stand on principle and not read a guide before you go in?
exotic spoke
They draw lines to you if you face them. I thought it’s an obvious mechanic
strong forum
having perma stun mechanics to fuck up an entire run is shit game design
warm plinth
Like I don't disagree with you that they could have better warnings but why would you not look up a guide before you go in lol
I like to let other people make the mistakes so I don't have to
exotic spoke
It’s why I did so many runs on PTR before patch was released
analog zinc
i dont enjoy looking everything up beforehand
exotic spoke
To be fair, people complain that blizzard makes the game to easy and holds hands. And then they complain when they don’t.
true plover
@analog zinc Then that means you enjoy trial and error. You can't complain about failing with that method if you chose to figure it out yourself.
exotic spoke
I’m fine with how they did visions. Maybe you scuff a single run because of one specific mechanic. That’s honestly inconsequential in the big picture
warm plinth
Though it is kind of weird that there's no text warning on the screen like with Alleria's shit
exotic spoke
But after that you should know how to handle that mechanic
analog zinc
i enjoy good game design that doesn't force you to watch guides or fail
exotic spoke
They don’t force you to watch guides
warm plinth
Well, if I look toward an eye and it drains sanity, common sense kinda says I should look away from it
true plover
It tells you by in-game sounds/graphics.
analog zinc
common sense for me was that I should LoS them
exotic spoke
I never watched one fucking guide. I wrote guides in my path towards optimization for my group
And when it didn’t work and you still see a line then you don’t look.
Looking away has been a common place mechanic for a long time
true plover
It doesn't just shout "turn away from the eye" but it's pretty obvious after a few ticks of the eye as you face it.
warm plinth
Yeah like eyes have always been either look at it or you turn away
So I'd try one and if it didn't work, I'd try the other
exotic spoke
“Hey, I’m ticking down faster and LoS didn’t work. Hey! There’s a line connecting us. I’ll look away”
analog zinc
if its obvious how did I miss it?
exotic spoke
That’s what we did on our first pull on Shaw and killed it / still cleared without any prior knowledge
analog zinc
normally looking away from a mind flay beam doesn't make it stop
i assumed it was a mind flay of sorts
exotic spoke
It’s not a mind flay beam though
analog zinc
i saw particle effects coming from the mobs right beside me
warm plinth
Channeled spells aren't broken by LoS. None of them are.
exotic spoke
I don’t know what to tel you man.
Even not knowing how to handle going into it we figured it out very quickly.
On our first run through
true plover
Idk man. You're choosing to not look up a guide beforehand and complaining that the game isn't walking you through step by step pretty much.
exotic spoke
Visions aren’t supposed to be easy. They are supposed to be unforgiving (not the same as hard per se). This is an unforgiving mechanic
warm plinth
I should say channeled spells that target a specific person, since obviously things like the KUJO mechanic are :p
lyric summit
Any EU prot warrs that wanna chill through a +10 WM? 🙂
dense plaza
earthlink, unstable flames or carapace?
warm plinth
Unstable Flames
sick sentinel
Is Strengt of the Warden good for warrior? It looks good for DH and Druid tanks
exotic spoke
Formless void is better at rank 3 if you need corruption resistance
rare kelp
Dps spec for weekly loot chest?!?! yes/no?
rare kelp
i need trinket more
warm plinth
not if your shield isn't 475 you don't
exotic spoke
I mean - what shield and one hander do you have?
analog zinc
i rolled tank spec for both weeks
rare kelp
shield 460 and 455 weapon
analog zinc
got the same shield both times 🙂
exotic spoke
Prot
analog zinc
prot
rare kelp
cheers
astral brook
How the hell do you deal with Rixxa in Motherload this week?
exotic spoke
Are you EU or NA?
exotic spoke
You have every cooldown / potion / reflect every other caustic / heroism / call for externals / pray
analog zinc
what key level?
exotic spoke
Wasn’t that bad. Thought ML last week (NA here so it already ended) was one of the easier ones
analog zinc
basically just have IP up for every hit
if you're doing a super high tyr you can respec into Never Surrender
exotic spoke
If people are leaving to swap to single targets builds you can as well. Even picking up undying gift is plenty
analog zinc
she only hits 5 times in a cycle
exotic spoke
I’d pick up undying gift over never surrender. It’s a fucking trap
exotic spoke
Undying gives more benefit and has a very short cooldown. Ideally NS has very little benefit
analog zinc
i mean undying protects you from what 1-2 hits every 2nd or 3rd cycle?
even then
its not as good as just having IP up for every hit
exotic spoke
Which is really all you need because you have other CDs.
You have IP for every hit without NS
If your close to topped off NS does nothing
If you’re too low the NS does nothing because you’re still dead
analog zinc
it helps when single hits are overkilling your entire IP
& anytime you can only get 4 IPs off instead of the needed 5
every hit you're gonna dip & after every hit you can reapply IP
exotic spoke
Which is still going to happen when you don’t have CDs. But I guess another 45 second CD wouldn’t help with that
NS is not worth IMO
It’s indirectly proportional to your hp % so you’ll never get anywhere close to that 100% bonus
humble crow
sick sentinel
merektha is shit
analog zinc
how come my thing from beyond doesn't have a nameplate?
craggy harness
another future raiding emergency room doctor 🙂
"I got called in, right after this boss"
Rest of guild: "GO!"
craggy harness
"Why you dying bruh," healer, probably.
analog zinc
dont have a healer
chilly brook
To be fair
analog zinc
i'm pretty sure what happened was
craggy harness
that sounds like a moment where you'd want an in game camera replay
chilly brook
And yea you're probably right
It probably said "no path available" and snapped to you
analog zinc
50
rocky garnet
yeah thats fair matt, i just am tired today lol i wanna just go home and play some wow
chilly brook
I say that as a guy who never really had exams in his major @rocky garnet
rocky garnet
grats nike thats nuts
chilly brook
And the exams I did have were all hands on proving I know how to work a camera and produce video content
rocky garnet
what you do?
chilly brook
I work in tv now
rocky garnet
im bitching for no reason tbh. today is just like basically patient interaction exams but they are stressful cause theyre practicals
im sure thats stressful too
vocal shell
So I just tried tanking a 16 motherlode (not a tank main) and I got decimated on the third boss by the searing reagent attack that she does. How are you supposed to survive that as a protection warrior? It was doing 280k damage to me per tick, every 2 seconds
vocal shell
@rocky garnet yeah but are there any talent changes/essence changes I have to do for that boss?
rocky garnet
did you run the magic shield thing from mechagon i forgot name
rocky garnet
yeah hm idk
i havent even tanked that high so dont take what i say as gospel lol im just bored and wanted to help
strong forum
Prolly socket @sick sentinel
analog zinc
why are people suddenly asking for tanks in here now
what happened to group finder lmao
rocky garnet
if i get my corruption down to exactly 40 do i still get the thing from beyond
cause if i got rank 9 and used warden i could
analog zinc
ye
rocky garnet
fuck
broken isle
are most here using above 40?
warm plinth
Most here are probably using somewhere around 40, yeah
broken isle
bolt, fear, aoe stun, leap
warm plinth
Spell Reflect still works too I think
analog zinc
^
broken isle
spell reflect no way lol
analog zinc
SR still procs cascading tho
rocky garnet
i could have a rank 3 EV and rank 2 TD
analog zinc
but yea unless you get swarmed with procs or need it for something else you can SR to insta kill em
plus it pads your meters
broken isle
thats amazing
rocky garnet
would running those two be worht the damage?
or should i just save pants
i know i asked earlier
but its driving me crazy lol
analog zinc
those 2 what
rocky garnet
rank 3 EV and rank 2 td
warm plinth
How much is T3 EV by itself?
rocky garnet
60
warm plinth
Yeah I wouldn't get to 60. Even at 58 you're gonna have to react fast to make sure the add doesn't hit you
He's pretty speedy once you start getting up there
rocky garnet
you said reflect it?
i could also run warden to drop it down
rank 9 cloak gives 8 more resist
warm plinth
To 48?
warm plinth
If you can do that, I would
rocky garnet
if i run warden and cloak upgrade
rocky garnet
rank 2 of warden still only gives 10 corrupt right
rocky garnet
fuck
warm plinth
The speed increase is very relevant when it spawns 3 yards away
analog zinc
no
warm plinth
I'm pretty sure only one essence will actually give you resistance
rocky garnet
i know
analog zinc
its a unique effect
rocky garnet
i think the damage im gonna be doing is just dumb
warm plinth
If I had your choice, I'd run both but I'd drop the corruption down. If you're comfortable at 58, stay at 58
And use a better essence
analog zinc
i'm only running it because i have the choice between 60cr & 50cr
i dont want cascading
warm plinth
Yeah, which leaves little choice
rocky garnet
yeah then thats hard
warm plinth
Since cascading is awful
warm plinth
It's that effect that those bracers you got had
rocky garnet
my DH math works out perfect so he can run his two rank 2s this week now
warm plinth
That gives you stacking secondaries 🙂
rocky garnet
lmfao
warm plinth
No big boi deeps for Riki
exotic spoke
I looked at my mythic parse.
Fuck me. I’m dead inside
exotic spoke
Yup
sick sentinel
Once you get more gear, it'll overshadow it
exotic spoke
Looks about right
agile vault
noob prot warrior question... I just got tier 3 infinite star ilevel 460 gloves. would I ever want to replace this with higher ilevel but non-corrupted gloves? not sure whether all the sims apply to tanking
sick sentinel
depends on what you have
exotic spoke
To expand on what Nike said. If you don’t have other corruption options I absolutely would use those.
If you have other, good, Corruption options it becomes a more complex discussion
exotic spoke
And, Ilvl / stat differences matter.
winged grail
Like 10k DPS in sims
rocky garnet
am i that undergeared?
agile vault
gotcha, makes sense. I'm at 451 right now and 48 corruption, if I upgrade cloak to rank 9 I can get down to 40 but will still have thing from beyond
rocky garnet
jesus christ
exotic spoke
Depending on the content you’re doing. Only three essence slots and you’re about as geared as people ended up end of tier
sick sentinel
I don't sim that much
rocky garnet
yeah i didnt farm islands at all lol but thats insane
exotic spoke
I think I did 20 islands total to hit 75? And mostly just to help friends get their weekly done. Since then maybe 10-15? Almost neck level 79 right now
rocky garnet
thats crazy man maybe ill grind that out this week
i also just havent had much time with school but hoping i can get some shit done this week
loud kestrel
