protection

[sweet summit]

gear brm as ww?

[sick sentinel]

Precisely

Any monkey with a keyboard can play brewmaster

[sweet summit]

you, sir, you say some smart stuff sometimes

[sick sentinel]

I know these things cause I’ve had a raid team or two implode

Rip DVA @mortal brook

[mortal brook]

Who?

[sick sentinel]

Aaaaaaaaaa ya hate to see that

[mortal brook]

:D

[west kayak]

So I am running VoP as Maj and CnS, Null and sphere as Min. Any changes you all would make?

[mortal brook]

sphere for formles if you need the corruption resistance, otherwise that's the go-to

[warm plinth]

Change from Null to lucid

I'm assuming dungeons since VoP major

[west kayak]

I was running Lucid, changed to Null for whatever reason...

I mainly run M+ but I do raid from time to time.

[eager rose]

Change vision to conflict

[sick sentinel]

Honestly even in raid VoP is overall the better choice. A lot of tanks maximize ST damage by taking crucible in raid

[thick vector]

What is the best essences for m+?

which is a must have in rank 3

[sick sentinel]

Vision major

CnS/lucid/aegis/sphere minors

Aegis is more situational

And very situationally you can use null

[tame garden]

Dont you have to take AUG cuz of all the magic damage in raid

I saw on wowhead that warrior is b tier

[sick sentinel]

Can’t tell if memeing

[tame garden]

🏃

[sick sentinel]

Also conflict major is not good

On necrotic is can be useful but in general is worse than VoP

[warm plinth]

Just facetank. ez game

[sick sentinel]

Or uh

Use your abilities and leap away to drop necrotic

[warm plinth]

JUST FACETANK HAWGZ

[night crow]

so you guys recommend sphere and aegis as minors? You swap between them, or do you run both?

[versed pumice]

lucid major also works well

[daring marlin]

no

yuck

[versed pumice]

on fortified weeks its better than VoP imo

[tame garden]

Here comes the lucid police

🏃‍♂️

[warm plinth]

For M+, Memory/C&S/Sphere/Formless/Aegis in roughly that priority

For minors

[daring marlin]

Better than having avatar more frequently for trash that hits harder? 🤔

[versed pumice]

well its RNG if you will have avatar for longer and on top of that when you have lucid up you have perma ignore pain

more reliable than a RNG proc

[tame garden]

I've always been curious: whatever the actual uptime difference of avatar with lucid vs vision major in m+? Assuming still taking vision minor

[craggy harness]

for the devastate talent, i remember seeing an auto attack red/green light aura to get 'best' use of autoattacks

and then later, that it didn't matter if you lost a few swings.

are we still at the "doesn't matter" point with devastator?

[daring marlin]

Also ew 2min cd on lucid

🤮

[versed pumice]

would be a bit broken if it was any less 😄

[warm plinth]

@craggy harness swing timer tracking was a thing in Legion for about 5 seconds before it was debunked.

[craggy harness]

rgr, tnx. Had a feeling that was the case, don't quite have a good feeling with the talent though yet

[daring marlin]

Swing timers don’t matter much now except for arms and charge weaving

and even then they’re not as big of a deal like they were in bc

[craggy harness]

oh, meh. well, i just use arms for world stuff and the bare min pvp

[daring marlin]

pvp is so shit now

corruption is awful

[versed pumice]

atleast they nerfed some corruption in pvp

you had guardian druids running around hitting 250k+ with twilight dev 3

[daring marlin]

IS is consistently top damage for people I’m against that have it and it’s disgusting

[royal rune]

Morrison#2905 what essences do you use for tanking mythic +?

[left hatch]

you don't have perma ignore pain

you have ~2 extras per min

for M+ I use VoP, CnS, Sphere, Lucid

Lucid is the weak link in minors for me that i swap out for aegis some weeks/dugneons but thats 100% feelcraft

[chilly brook]

@versed pumice lucid major is not better unless you're literally sitting there planning your routes around the 2 minute lucid downtime and pulling hella large when it's up

[left hatch]

i got real attached to the perma haste and kiting help when needed from sphere

[neon tangle]

hi griff

[chilly brook]

Hello

Figured someone had to be the lucid police

[tame garden]

What is the different in avatar uptime

[chilly brook]

Since it was referenced

[tame garden]

Anyone got a number

[left hatch]

^ id like to see a few buff uptimes from Lucid Major players

to see if its anywhere near close to VoP with lucid minor

[chilly brook]

Idk

[left hatch]

esp with the buff

[neon tangle]

Who wants to link me a character

or, rather, maybe punch it in to raidbots and it'll show you buff uptimes

in the report

[chilly brook]

But regardless of the buff uptime it still remains that you have to plan around lucid in order for you to actually take advantage of it where you dont for VoP

[neon tangle]

should at least give you a baseline

[tame garden]

Is it rly that hard to plan around cds

[versed pumice]

its not hard to plan around it though

[tame garden]

Ever play with a fire mage

[chilly brook]

I'm not saying it's hard to do

[versed pumice]

i guess if you are playing with fire mage it is a good combo

[left hatch]

eh this week its a lot harder to make pulls that would make it worth it

[chilly brook]

I'm saying unless you actually sit there and plan it out with your group and you're pulling a sufficiently large group to make actual use of the rage it's not worth

[versed pumice]

ye thats true

[left hatch]

in 1/2 the dungeons the limiting factor to yoru pull isn't tank survival, its casts that need interrupting, shit that cuts uptime for DPS, or in this week dumb affixes that artificially limit your pulls

[chilly brook]

Which is why 95% of the time VoP>Lucid

[left hatch]

the other half of the VoP lucid debate wasn't promoting it offensively either. it was exclusively for making pulls where if you DONT have that 40s of uninterrupted critical block youd die

which unless you're going higher than 15's rn won't happen

[chilly brook]

Basically I'd put it like this

[strong forum]

???????? 189 haste? does this shit not scale?

[chilly brook]

Using VoP is like playing a rogue, it performs just as well and in most use cases won't be limited by anything whereas using Lucid is like playing Feral, it can perform but you have to do a lot more in order to be on par with the other classes

[tame garden]

RIP feral

[chilly brook]

That's honestly the best comparison I can make

[formal grail]

okay ive got an issue with the goliath boss in WM

[chilly brook]

You're putting in a lot of extra effort for very minimal or no gain in most use cases

[strong forum]

you have to reset stacks in the fire sometimes avilene

[formal grail]

I can't seem to get it past 24 stacks without going splat

yeah i do

[chilly brook]

Just block xD

[strong forum]

well that depends on key level

[formal grail]

but then when leaping away he seems to melee me before leap

and then im splat

[strong forum]

i went to 32 on WM 15 just now

[formal grail]

it was a 14

[strong forum]

didnt wanna risk bullyshit

cuz shaman healer

🙂

[versed pumice]

yikes

[strong forum]

i have brought him to 72 stacks on an old 19 before tho

[formal grail]

oh wow

[strong forum]

on fort weeks i think

[formal grail]

yeah im used to like putting him on 30+

tyrannical is just so ugh

[left hatch]

i just got itno the habit of never resetting last season

[strong forum]

you have to cycle CDs

[formal grail]

wondering if its worth taking bounding stride in this case

[left hatch]

cycle externals nad internals

[strong forum]

typically until 30 should always be fine

[formal grail]

yeah my healer isnt calling out externals

[left hatch]

cause those fire ghosts fucked our group the few times i tried

[formal grail]

ah yeah

[chilly brook]

I mean I always take bounding stride

[strong forum]

you ahve to call for externals

[formal grail]

weve also had our healer stunned almost every time

[chilly brook]

Increased tclap range doesnt have much use tbh

[formal grail]

during fire

oh yeah good point

[left hatch]

stack up on boss and it gets cleaved down instantly

[formal grail]

true

i try to keep SB up for the crushes\

[left hatch]

same thing on Witches, first boss you want ppl to stack to burn down the MC faster

[formal grail]

and IP whenever i can dump

oh yeah thats the thing

we had 0 issue with witches

they melted

[chilly brook]

Dont forget shield wall

[exotic spoke]

Sup qtpies

[formal grail]

oh yeah i use shield wall as one of my first usually due to long cd

[chilly brook]

Hi qt 3.14

Nah dont

[kind geyser]

save shield wall for later when he's higher stacks

[chilly brook]

Use it to cover blocks

[exotic spoke]

I’d get an external earlier and use shield wall later / cover blocks with it

[formal grail]

oki

[chilly brook]

I said blocks

What I meant was gaps

[exotic spoke]

What griff said

Also, make sure the thorns are cleared and then drag him into fire

[chilly brook]

Aka shield block is on CD and so is last stand

So pop shield wall

[formal grail]

also for SB and last stand with bolster

you cycle 3x SB and then stand if needed right

[chilly brook]

Just last stand when you dont have sb available

[formal grail]

oki

[chilly brook]

It comes off CD pretty fast tbh

[formal grail]

shield slam reduces the cd right

[chilly brook]

No

[formal grail]

(im a little tired now hah)

[chilly brook]

Just spending rage

[formal grail]

oooh

maybe ive just found it more obvious

[simple salmon]

Hey guys, what’s the play for spirit breaker from urg’roth? You have shield wall for one but then what?

[exotic spoke]

LOS or Kite

[formal grail]

kite

i do all the kiting there

[kind geyser]

run like a bitch

[formal grail]

having a ranged to intervene to is ❤️

[simple salmon]

Damn rly?

[strong forum]

you can tank him

at 15/16

tbh

the growths are scarier

[formal grail]

i also dont know if tanking a 14 waycrest at 450 is a good idea heh

[strong forum]

but ye generally you kite him between casts

[kind geyser]

unless you have treants or a hunter

[strong forum]

i did WM 15 at 453 what do you mean

[formal grail]

yeah but you pro

[chilly brook]

Tbh for the most part gear won't be your problem

[strong forum]

thanks 😳

[kind geyser]

it's about practice on key levels not gear

[simple salmon]

So I take the hit and then run with the rebuff?

[kind geyser]

the higher you go the more you need to know and plan

[strong forum]

you can outrun the cast

its 20 yards

then kite abit

[formal grail]

guess ill just practice more

the guy whose key it was was up for running the 13 tomorrow 🙂

[simple salmon]

Ok so I can leap the cast and then comfortably tank him for ~8secs?

[strong forum]

na you need to kite a bite more

cuz then he will do the dark fury

then you can tank for a bit

if you ABSOLUTELY dont want to tank a spirit breaker

[kind geyser]

he will spam cast it unless he's interrupting himself with dark fury

so you can only get hits in now and again

[strong forum]

but with IP / demo you can tank him easily

[simple salmon]

Dark fury is the shit around him?

[exotic spoke]

You can LOS the cast to reset it

If you find a good pillar you can just keep humping it and have no problems

Imagine you're PVPing

[simple salmon]

So I just run around it? :’s

This pillar sucks

[tame garden]

🙂

[simple salmon]

I rly dislike the kite

[strong forum]

it do be like that

often you want the portal somewhere anyway

so it just plays into playing the affix

😉

[simple salmon]

Sure I see that

[tame garden]

Kiting the caster is such a pain

Bitch doesnt wanna move

Ppl dont wanna just outrange

[mortal brook]

'los'

'around the corner'

'stop dps'

[tame garden]

😂

[limber pagoda]

did they nerf Last Stand! i thought it gave damage reduction and SW is now 4 min cooldwon

[warm plinth]

Nothing about either ability has changed

[daring sable]

mh is the "12%m ore haste from all sources" good?
also, what minor do i want to take for the -corruption?

[left hatch]

formless void, and its ok

probably one of the best non damage procs

[warm plinth]

Last stand grants 100% block chance while active with Bolster talented which is damage reduction of sorts. And shield wall has been 4 min base cool down for a long time.

[left hatch]

or effects rather

[sick sentinel]

Haste is good for us as prot... but there are better corruptions

[daring sable]

i got echoing r3 and that one, but i need corruption reduction.
is formless void viable for m+
@left hatch ?

[left hatch]

its the only viable essence of the 3 that have resistance

so yes

[daring sable]

kk ty

alternatively i could cleanse the wrists with 12% haste all sources and go with conflict or aegis instead mh.

[left hatch]

when it comes to corruption and stuff that gets kinda feelycrafty

like 40 is manageable if you're on top of your game

[strong forum]

on top of game gamer here

[left hatch]

and CnS should never be what you swap out

it's probably our strongest minor effect period

[strong forum]

^

[left hatch]

ditch Lucid or Sphere

[strong forum]

its the most stats out of all the minors

[candid path]

400+ Vers is very, very good.

Especially given how Vers-averse most of the recent gear is.

[strong forum]

feels good

[frosty holly]

465 1h wep from Waycrest any worth? Seeing it lack secondary. Other wep is 450 vers/haste with socket

[mortal brook]

it is hella worth man

like 1k more dmg than the rest of the 465s ST

[strong forum]

ilvl always wins on weapons

and the dot itself is really good for ST

[mortal brook]

gonna trash on 450s

[strong forum]

however for dungeons weapons with stats are better for dungeons

but for ST its bis

[frosty holly]

Was thinking more of survivability. But i guess the tiny amount you get from 450 is whatever

[strong forum]

you lose str and stam

so

it evens out

[frosty holly]

Fair nuff

[mortal brook]

enemy dies faster, it stops dealing dmg to you \o/

[strong forum]

well and all your abilites will hit harder

ontop of a good ST dot for bosses

[frosty holly]

\o/

[left hatch]

ilvl still wins out for survivability

IP scales with attack power

and the best defensive in the game is making the other thing ded

[frosty holly]

Aa, fair enough

[late gull]

What is the best for azerite hearth ?

[mortal brook]

azerite hearth?

[late gull]

essences

[strong forum]

this

[crystal dirge]

how high is your demo shout uptime and CPM in dungeons? whats the average blocked melee hits in % for you guys? please tag me in the answer i might lose it otherwise

also, yday we talked about str of the warden, I still think it does pretty good healing, overheals only 25%, I checked in a few runs

Any of them better in your opinion?

[sick sentinel]

25% overheal is a lot

[mortal brook]

formless. esp for raid when the overheal from str of the warden will be way higher

solid mainstat and haste uptime

[crystal dirge]

I'll try formless then in the next runs, any info maybe on the uptimes and %s?

[mortal brook]

if theres a cof major in group, like 80%+

[oblique garnet]

Warden isnt too bad if its at rank 3 and you have EV

[mortal brook]

imagine having ev -.-

forgot the r3 was a stam boost

[drowsy veldt]

just got a shield with level 2 void ritual should i cleanse? is that a good corruption?

[left hatch]

its not great

but only cleanse if itll take you over a corruption you're comfortable with

its still free stats otherwise

[drowsy veldt]

73 too much for this guy

[warm plinth]

I'll cleanse you

[mortal brook]

its not as good as Servant Splitter but itll still beat most equal ilvl on st and anything lower in ilvl in general

[crystal dirge]

I had 44.4% uptime on formless void this run with a CoF major

in the group

it's r2 for now tho so no haste

think r3 warden is going to be worth with my echoing+twilight setup, for now at least

[sick sentinel]

urchin 430 still usefull or something new to use?

Question is can I get a corrupted servant splitter

[rapid jewel]

yes

[patent bone]

i got EV rank 1 on a 430 pants, that still worth wearing in m+ over my 470 crafted?

i run about 15's in m+ right now so thinking about the armor/str loss?

[crystal dirge]

I've just got an EV r1, it's currently doing 8-10% of my dmg depending on instance+rng, if you and your healer are comfortable I'd go for it, nice increase

[opal fox]

yo, which trinkets are the bis for protection warrior?

[patent bone]

yea looking at the math it doesnt seem to be too much of an armor loss so i'll try it

[opal fox]

i'm kinda lost about trinkets

[sweet summit]

block/rezan/urchin/edict/dragonscale/vita are all solid

[opal fox]

btw

how much mastery should i have?

[mortal brook]

no breakpoints. wear ilvl

[sweet summit]

as much as you highest ilvl pieces allow you to have

[opal fox]

ok

and versatility

is the same?

[sweet summit]

yea

general

ilvl>haste>crit for m+ and ilvl>haste>vers for raids

corruption will scew this a bit

[opal fox]

ohhh k

so

if i have rezan's trinket

i should not get more haste for trinkets

so which one do u recommend?

[crystal dirge]

I run Dragonscale + Vita atm

[sweet summit]

dragonscale from wrathion is decent, but annyoing with the slow fall
vita shard from ra-den is also good

[crystal dirge]

being able to only use TC when both proc is nice 😄

[sweet summit]

^^

[opal fox]

but if u get the dragonscale + vita is alot of haste

[left hatch]

just cause you have Rezan doesn't mean you can't run a second haste trinket

i have a 465 rezan and 460 scale rn

0 ragrets

[opal fox]

but does that mean that survability will decrease or not?

[left hatch]

no

haste is still your best stat

[mortal brook]

survival isnt much about shifting around secondaries, its gameplay

[left hatch]

i have 2 haste trinks, all haste chants/gems (minus 2 str ones) 2 instances of OP and 1 MS and iv never seen my haste go above 100% outside of hero window

so you wont hit the haste softcap of 100%

and even then the point it stops contributing to survivability is... 150%?

around there

cause thats when you can have 100% uptime of SB

without LS

[opal fox]

oh

ok

thanks

[sick sentinel]

yeah thats why steve dies all the time

kek

🏃

[mortal brook]

damn right. swapping out a ring aint gonna do nothing for my shenanigans

[crystal dirge]

I put a few gems into crit, cause 1. it's much easier to shift to fury when needed 2. I like seeing big numbahs from twilight devastation 😂

[crystal hemlock]

does anyone know if the shield from junkyard mecha is total dog or not?

other option is a 5 ilvl downgrade with haste/mastery

[crystal dirge]

ilvl > anything

regarding shields

[left hatch]

the effect on it is basically worthless

but

its still better than anything lower ilvl

because Block > all

[sick sentinel]

is briny any good

briny barnacle

[raw turtle]

Is vulpera prot warrior good?

[tame garden]

its the cutest

[inland mesa]

@crystal hemlock I hate you for not asking me :-P. Did you get a 465 shield before I did?

[crystal hemlock]

oh sorry, no i got the 445 mecha shield, mb i will ask you in the future lmao

[inland mesa]

<3 just kidding. I was going to cry if you got a good shield before I did XD

[crystal hemlock]

well now it's a goal

[inland mesa]

Bad vulpera

I need the mythic trash one or my box to not hate me

[red dock]

Endless Hunger or IF for M+?

[sick sentinel]

Endless hunger?

You want IF

[rapid jewel]

What is stronger, Faralos or EV?

[dark lark]

EV

I cleansed my Faralos

[chilly brook]

I'm a sad boy I was looking forward to WC3 reforged and then it released

I guess I'm glad I didn't preorder

[dark lark]

Trinket choices? 460 socketed wrathion, 455 alch, 435 urchin, 430 socketed edicts. For m+.

[chilly brook]

Uhhh

Not the 430s

[exotic spoke]

What are you trying to decide dps or defensive?

[dark lark]

Probably defensive for the time being until the rest of my gear is stronger

[exotic spoke]

Then don’t bother simming

It doesn’t do shit defensively

[dark lark]

I wasn't simming, was just lining them up in an easy to see format for screenshot lol

[exotic spoke]

Probably stone and wrathions

[dark lark]

I was running urchin edicts all s3

[exotic spoke]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[chilly brook]

Too much strength to pass up

[dark lark]

Wondering how they're holding up despite lower ilvl

[chilly brook]

Doubtful that it's worth

[exotic spoke]

I’m still running 450 urchin 440 gore

I can’t get weapons / shields / trinkets worth a damn

[dark lark]

Mwahi's guide says that if equal ilvl then the EP trinkets are still the best but mine aren't equal ilvl

[exotic spoke]

Then go with the new ones imo

[chilly brook]

Scale for sure is hella good

[dark lark]

DPS it's wrathion and 430 razor coral haha

[exotic spoke]

Haste and more haste proc with group also getting haste sounds like a win

[chilly brook]

The increased healing from health pots are also hella nice

[dark lark]

Ok

Thanks boiz

[exotic spoke]

Yeah mang

IO scores are gonna be hella inflated and it’s gonna take time for people to adjust imo

Also, at least for now - until I get frustrated with this affix - the bosses are sooo much better than emissaries

[chilly brook]

I dont think the bosses even when you're kinda over the affix will be more annoying than emissaries

[exotic spoke]

Seeing where I can pull bigger now because there isn’t a tides / void / etc is nice

Just a casual 8 mob pull before crawg in UR

[chilly brook]

Affixes where it puts the control in your hands are always the best received

[exotic spoke]

NBD. Since no tides

And the portals are great / option to do them with boss

[inland mesa]

Hmm 475 socketed scale replace edict or urchin?

[exotic spoke]

What Ilvl?

[chilly brook]

I kinda wish I was still playing just for m+ this season

[inland mesa]

They're both 450 or 445

[exotic spoke]

I’d use it over edicts imo

[chilly brook]

But then I think about all the other crap I'd have to do

[exotic spoke]

I value urchin more in most situations

Though, it dawned on me. Why am I using urchin this week in M+

[inland mesa]

Scale and the ra'den one are best this tier, right?

[exotic spoke]

I’d have to look. Overall most trinkets feel unimpressive. But I think that’s right chew toy

[inland mesa]

Yeah I kept edict urchin on for prog as my healers like to parse and not heal me :(

Which is terrible taking maut adds

[twilit smelt]

worth to drop 450 azerite for 480 without bastion?

[exotic spoke]

Absolutely drop the 450 and use 480 - with out a doubt

The only exception is for 15 ilvls on your first deafening crash

[inland mesa]

What 480 piece doesnt have bastion o.O

[exotic spoke]

Random Azerite? But how did you get that already?

[west galleon]

scrapping 2 mythic

and doing like an 18 or something

[stark scroll]

Engi head as well maybe?

[west galleon]

tru

[twilit smelt]

thought about going engineering

[exotic spoke]

Wait. You can scrap the engi head for TR? Soo you’re saying I can throw money at my problem and gear up

[twilit smelt]

because no high ilvl azerite until ilgynoth

[stark scroll]

No Riki

[twilit smelt]

and nzoth hasnt given me the head

[exotic spoke]

Awww sad face

Cause I would throw money at it and scrap

[stark scroll]

I meant 480 without bom, unfortunately no tr from crafted heads

[exotic spoke]

Fair and maybe that’s a good thing

Though, I’ll have a ton on Tuesday. Had two TR Maps + stuff from visions / assaults / etc

[twilit smelt]

also how good is wrathion trinket

i've heard it's terribl

[inland mesa]

I feel like I'm just going to save and buy specifics this season as the raid stuff is good

Who said the trinket is bad o.O

[night crow]

How many ilvls do you think T3 Twilight Devastation is worth?

[fringe marten]

Does the Damage amplification portion of "Spirit Breaker" from one of the obelisk corrupted mobs in M+ Reflect back? I'm guessing it's a no since it's tied to a melee strike and we can't 'reflect' the strike.

[warm plinth]

It used to be reflectable but was changed before it went live I believe.

[fringe marten]

I tried it last night; didn't think it reflected but was looking for confirmation from other sources; even if it were I'd think they would remove that anyway because "Fun Detected"

[warm plinth]

Not only that but it would make warriors broken for Awakened lol

[opal python]

anyone know the best way to deal with necrotic at king gobba in junkyard?

cuz the adds spawn and build a shit ton of necrotic

i can shockwave and leap before a charge smash but the boss is too fucking fast lol

i was thinking maybe a taunt swap for a quick couple seconds

[stark scroll]

Where do you position him? If you tank him with your back to a pylon you shouldn't have to worry about necrotic very often as not many adds will make it to you

[opal python]

hmm yh true

maybe it was just that there was 1 person dc and that's 1 pylon not being used

but there's 4 pylons and maybe someone wasn't charging. will try position better next time

[trail cipher]

Is strength of the warden worth it for m+? Saw a lot of players picking it up

[opal python]

major or minor?

[trail cipher]

Minor

[mortal brook]

itll be able equivalent to 1~2 Impassive visage. but you're not getting anything offensive from it.

if you need the resist, that or formless can work yeah

[opal python]

yh i think strength of the warden can be good deffensive if you want resist

and formless for both offense and defense (if you want resist)

otherwise you're better off using aegis + memory + conflict (swapping with null for some dungeons)

vision major

atleast its what i think, could be wrong

[nova rover]

Hey guys remind me what was the goal haste % unbuffed, was it 22%?

[mortal brook]

no breakpoints. ilvl > haste

[nova rover]

Really? Always had heard it was a 22% (been gone a few months)

[mortal brook]

just dont go past 400%, it drops off in value after that

[left hatch]

there hasn't been a haste cap (even softcap) all xpac

at least not an obtainable one

100% is when your GCD stops scaling, and 140-150% range is when you'll be able to have 100% uptime on SB outside of LS with bolster

but yah thats gonna be tricky to hit outside hero windows without stacking haste procs, trinkets and corruption

[chilly brook]

where do people get the idea that there is a cap for haste

[onyx vessel]

Breakpoints in bfa

😂

[sick sentinel]

Wtb corruption

Spamming m+ all week 460 ilvl

1 corruption it’s Crit proc

I wanna do 50k overall like trell

[strong forum]

I did 49k in WM 15 :)

453 equipped

Wanna know my secret? Just do WQs with gear, they can corrupt too and if you luck out you get, EV / TD

Which is why I'm using 410 pants over 465 🙃

Ez 5k dps gain

[sick sentinel]

True I need to be

[strong forum]

tfw just got rank 23 HC wrathionbut didnt log

[glad fossil]

Hi guys
Im alittle confused, i usually go for icy veins when looking at essences , but they havent included the new essences , are they really not better ??? even when the corruption resistance is coun ted

[left hatch]

only one worth mention is formless void

[glad fossil]

then take that as nr 4 ??

[left hatch]

if you need 10 resistance yes

[glad fossil]

the boe shield dropped and those 35 corruption hurts

[jagged stump]

Do some cloak upgrades?

I wear it and have 8 corruption running

As long as you are below 20

[glad fossil]

what about the azerite traits that gives stats above 25

Heart of darkness

[marble cipher]

Below 40 is fine tbf as far as corruption goes

The eye isn't all that bad and you can cloak it if it happens at a stupid moment. And it helps burst your null shield for extra deeps 😜

[ionic fern]

The new essences are included tho 👀
Under "situational".

@glad fossil

[strong forum]

nooo

[flat jackal]

Can EP gear still titanforge??

[strong forum]

yes to 455 max

[flat jackal]

I remember reading somewhere it can

[strong forum]

8.2 and lower gear can still TF to 455

[glad fossil]

@ionic fern i have seen that , but i like to go with the general recommendation , and i feel like the description of the situations are vagueish

[flat jackal]

God damn...

Thanks @strong forum

[strong forum]

o7

[ripe shale]

Would running formless void r3 major to copy BotE be a good meme build ? 🤔

[left hatch]

theres talk of a 2 formless on tank and healer and 1-2 memebeams with the other dps running spark of inspiration for CDR and dmg boost

but well see if its actually a think or not

[strong forum]

not at all

Bote is too long CD

and bote would essentially just be a better avatar

on a 2.5min CD 🙂

[ripe shale]

I was getting my hopes up for this but now I'm sad 😭

[torpid wigeon]

hello, how's prot warr in M+ atm.?

[strong forum]

very good

[torpid wigeon]

cool

thank you

[exotic spoke]

Morning prot QTPies

[strong forum]

no u

[exotic spoke]

Awww thanks

How goes it Nome

[strong forum]

http://i.imgur.com/ve9rt4u.gif

[exotic spoke]

Y so mad bro

[sick sentinel]

only 49k?

[exotic spoke]

Aoe or single?

Cause I want good corruptions / weapon upgrades. I saw my mythic parse and it made me cry 😦

[grand spruce]

is a 455 fusion hacker better than a 435 dreams end?

[exotic spoke]

For weapons and shields, defensively, it is better to use the highest Ilvl

And in general 20 ilvls is a huge difference and likely just used offensively and defensively

[grand spruce]

okay. thank you

[brave skiff]

are there any routes for mdt with the awakened affix yet?

im new to tanking and im kind of scared to do +10s lol

[sweet condor]

The main thing to keep in mind is where you kill the lieutenant because that is where a portal to exit the void realm will be dropped. Dropping it in the middle of a trashpack can be problematic. You should use the portal to skip packs that that take up too much time if you can afford the loss of %.

You can for example skip the pack with two honor guards and two hex priests just before Volkaal in Atal'Dazar

[brave skiff]

ohh

thats nice ty

[manic scaffold]

whos better limit or method

[mortal brook]

remains to be seen

[west galleon]

generally method

[sick sentinel]

so 430 urchin still use?

[candid ledge]

Does avatar remove wrathion stacks?

mythic

[exotic spoke]

Yes @candid ledge it removes them

@sick sentinel it depends on your options. I’m using a 450 urchin and 440 gore but I haven’t gotten anything worth a damn yet

[ruby nexus]

is wcm weapon better than stat stick weapon? assuming same ilvl

[warm plinth]

For DPS, yes. For survival, no.

[steel solar]

any corruptions worth it for survival? like glimpse of clarity etc

[ebon hound]

if enemies die quicker they deal less dmg to you

[strong forum]

Survival wise the haste proc and haste from all sources are prolly the best ones

But you'd be inting if you aren't aiming to get EV

That shits free 10k+ dps

[cold cosmos]

I want a nice EV to go with my TD. And a pile of extra corruption resistance

[merry socket]

Is wrathion weapon worth it? Or cleanse

[strong forum]

depends on your other corruptions

but its on the weaker side of dmg procs, so if you have EV / TD, its not better

[lofty sierra]

Which shield should i go with?

[strong forum]

indom will

[lofty sierra]

alrighty thanks

[spark mortar]

Does anyone use "Heart of Darkness" Azerite trait currently?

[sweet summit]

im sure someone uses HoD as it is a very strong trait if you meet its conditions

[ionic fern]

I use HoD.

[simple salmon]

What are the conditions?

[sweet summit]

25 corruption after resistance

[simple salmon]

Easy

😁

Is that good?

[sweet summit]

is what good?

[simple salmon]

HoD

[sweet summit]

very good

a lot of stats for "free"

[inner onyx]

RNG or Synaptic Spark Capacitator for M+?

on engi helm

[formal grail]

Is there a definite list of cds that you shouldn’t overlap (like SB with last stand bolster)

[warm plinth]

No, there's no list. That's really the main one. Most of our CDs will overlap each other just by doing your rotation, with the possible exception of Shield Wall.

[jagged stump]

Corruption under <40 in raid is possible in your opinion?

[exotic spoke]

It’s certainly possible. Maybe not ideal but I’m only running like 23 right now.

Mainly because I can’t get any though

[jagged socket]

what is the amount of haste i want to have w. and w/o into the fray.

or how low can shield block cd go?

[warm plinth]

ilevel>haste>crit for M+; ilevel>haste>vers for raids. The %s don't matter. There are no caps.

[jagged stump]

I have EV/TW and the heart of Darkness azerite, it's tempting.

[zealous wagon]

Does anyone know if the 12% vers from all sources stack if i wear 2 of them ?

[warm plinth]

They should, yes

[nova rover]

Sorry just got back so no min % of haste then, all ilvl>haste?

Honestly cannot remember where I heard there should be a min of 22% haste to 32%

[analog swift]

The only time min % or haste comes into play is on the mdi realms where you can have every piece of gear and then can perfectly optimize. Whereas on live that won’t be the case

[grizzled glen]

just reading up, makes me confused about the HoD azerite trait

so should we use it or should we not after 25 total corruption?

ive had conflicting answers here, like advising me not to take over IF since block has good value atm

[prime sundial]

Hi guyz ! I'm discovering macros and I would like to know pls if there is any cast combo interesting for prot wars ? For example to cast simultanously 2 casts.

[ebon hound]

None that I can think of and would use

What you could macro as a tank could be some markers, focus macro, kick focus macro, pull timer, ready check

[mortal brook]

almost there bois

[prime sundial]

hum thx

[analog zinc]

@lofty sierra that mechagon shield is the worst one in the game

[tame garden]

Rude

[warm plinth]

Makes sense to ping someone from 3 hours ago whose question was already answered to offer no additional information 😄

[hollow sleet]

are there any mythic+ dungeons in particular that prot warriors should target? like Kings Rest for DPS warriors

[strong forum]

atal for weapon, trinket, ring, shield ( but ml shield is slightly better)

atal has a shitton of haste loot thats pretty good in general

[hollow sleet]

ah okay thanks

[analog zinc]

was it 3 hours ago?

i didn't check

my b in that case

[strong forum]

its fine

cob has always been a bit of a slowpoke

[warm plinth]

I was just giving you shit City lol

[exotic spoke]

You would ghash

[warm plinth]

I have to give what I am

[analog zinc]

i just dont check disc that much

[polar kite]

Is it better to stack another BoM or go for my one and only iron fortress trait?

[strong forum]

you want 3x bom

[polar kite]

Okay, thanks :)

[severe warren]

hey guys Vita-Charged Titanshard 445 or Rezans Gleaming Eye 435?

[strong forum]

[exotic spoke]

I mean that won’t help if he’s looking for defensive trinkets Nome 😛

Also - its ghash fault

[warm plinth]

[severe warren]

@exotic spoke knows why i asked :)) thanks for clarification man

[strong forum]

î just got another TD on my DH

this game is trolling so hard

so now i have TD t2 and t3 on dh

[warm plinth]

diaf please

jk ily

[strong forum]

^les go

TD t2 + t3 + minflay t3

EASY DAMAGE BOYS

r1 inc

[warm plinth]

lol

[strong forum]

btw all ive ever done on dh this patch is assaults and visions

[warm plinth]

Nome why do you hate me

[strong forum]

:==)

i get the feeling TD cant crit anymore

AS IVE SAID IT

it critted.

<.<

[spice musk]

which is the fourth essence you guys are using?

Icy veins has just 3 favorites

[strong forum]

sphere/lucid/cns/aegis/null/Cof are all usable

[crystal dirge]

did 2 runs of trashfarm with my guild, got 475 ring then 475 shield back to back 😂

im buff af now

[strong forum]

-.-

[crystal dirge]

gotta cleanse void ritual from shield tho

[tame garden]

[hybrid basin]

big problem got T3 Twillight Dev. but wearing a 470 MindFlay T2 Weapon. Should i cleanse it and use T3 TD? or farm another weapoon and keep Mind flay. Wearing both is no Option 😄

T3 TD is on Legs 445.^^

[strong forum]

cleanse weapon

mindflay is not good outside of ST

[tame garden]

Maybe he raid :<

[hybrid basin]

yeah i raid and thats where the struggle begins but still TD should be better in most fights

atleast i think^^

[strong forum]

eventually youll get a better corruption and youll have to cleanse weapon anyway

[left hatch]

TD is pretty meh in raid

drops off hard in ST

[strong forum]

still does quite a bit of dps

[left hatch]

and every fight has at least some heavy ST component

yeh, but just not as consistent as other options

[strong forum]

still does like 3k dps

if not more

and in a lot of fights theres tons of adds

[hybrid basin]

yeah thats my point aswell the thing is i could use a 460 Weapon from 1. Boss and cleanse for M+ and still have MF in Raid with other pants

but dunno if worth

[strong forum]

up to you

if you can squeeze in another t1 with the mindflay

if you can, then thats good too

if its not EV theres no definitive answer im afraid

[hybrid basin]

dont know how good Haste from all sources is^^

still waiting for EV so no not really a good option^^

so i go with cleanse 470 best move overall i think. thanks for the opinions

[inland mesa]

my healing officer just told me my IP uptime is low >.>

because he's treating it like SB uptime

[left hatch]

the higher the content the lower your uptime because the faster itll get consumed

he dumb

[inland mesa]

yeah...I'm trying to explain it to him that I use it right before big hits to smooth damage rather than just pop it while the other tank is tanking to have a higher up time

[dark marlin]

Guys i have a 465 wep with vers corruption. Is the 475 wrathion one alot better?

[left hatch]

ilvl wins out on weapons period

[strong forum]

ilvl is the one that matters

[dark marlin]

Still with corruption effects? That gonfor everything?

[left hatch]

no just on weapons

and both effects are pretty middle of the pack

so its not a consideration here anyway really

[tame garden]

Chewtoy is he looking at overall uptimes or effective uptimes

[strong forum]

IP is a ragedump and dmg smoother

nothing more nothing less

[inland mesa]

he claims his healers dumped 200% more healing into me than other warriors take on Maut, but every log I looked at I took less damage and mitigated more on average. He told me my IP uptime was too low and I should have it up more often, so I'm assuming overall uptime

[strong forum]

he should look at ehrps

[tame garden]

Tell him to show you these logs then

That are so much better than you

[strong forum]

maybe because youre doing more dmg

so youre reflecting more

😉

[dark marlin]

So what corruption is best defensive and overall for prot? Wowhead has dps lists. At what point would u drop IL for corruption ?

[inland mesa]

I was using leap defensively and literally leaping away from the adds and running around intercepting people while I sat at 20-40% not getting healed

[left hatch]

EV is hands down the best overall corruption for prot

[inland mesa]

apparently IP will fix that

[left hatch]

and im dropping 50 ilvls for a T2 rn on gloves

[dark marlin]

Daaaymmm

[strong forum]

im dropping 55ilvl for EV t1

[dark marlin]

For dps yea?

[strong forum]

yup

its 5k dps gain

[sick sentinel]

big pumps

W0T

[sinful stone]

is there a trick for serrated teeth

i dont have enough cds and even with cd it still rapes

[crystal nest]

Use a CD and hope your healer can keep up with it. Keep using mitigations. There's not really a way to avoid the damage

[analog zinc]

whats serrated teeth?

the adds from the fear boss?

just run away at 50% & let your dps deal with the bleeds tbqh

[shut summit]

yea save CDs and try to have a full rage bar for IP

and just dont overwrite too early / make sure block is up as well

[cinder fern]

@inland mesa you used IP twice in the Maut kill your RL linked on competitivewow. That's uh, impressive.

[strong forum]

bruh

thats inting

thats a little too low

by about 25+ casts

[cinder fern]

And you wasted 150 rage during the fight :o

[strong forum]

boi chew

im checking your maut log

BRUH

BRUH

IP should be your TOP thingy on healing done

not your 4th

this is how it should look like, no matter if youre playing defensive trinkets

higher HPS ofc in higher dmg environment

IP 👏 is 👏 a 👏 RAGEDUMP 👏 pls use it @inland mesa

[warm plinth]

Serrated Teeth is Rezan's mechanic isn't it? 🤔

[dark lark]

But damage parses! :Kappa:

[strong forum]

if he was he wouldnt greenlog.

na fam after seeing this im fully on the side of your RL, youre not pressing IP even 10% of how often you should press it

ofc your damage taken is low if you let the BDK tank for 90% of the time

[inland mesa]

that's the strat, one tank takes adds, the other takes boss?

[strong forum]

you can also just swap after every add, so you dont burn through 300 cds

[inland mesa]

what...you leave adds up on mythic

[strong forum]

nontheless

you arent pressing IP

at all

even if youre playing offensively and arent tanking

youre supposed to dump rage into it

overcapping 24/7 sure

but wasting rage is a big nono

[inland mesa]

I was also using leap defensively and running around, and dumping rage into revenge to kill adds on time as we weren't getting them dead causing us to wipe on shield phase

[strong forum]

when the boss is close to 99 energy you can just let him eat the adds

either way

[inland mesa]

not on mythic...

[strong forum]

even on wrathion

you didnt use IP nearly enough

[frosty holly]

Thats even limit tactic, they let it an add on mythic

[strong forum]

on a 9 min kill you used IP 14 times

[inland mesa]

correct, third add goes into him, first add should die on time, you burn 2nd add during shield then him

[strong forum]

thats just unacceptable to me my guy

neverminding strats

but fuck me

[inland mesa]

I mean I can start hitting it for fun when the other tank has the boss

[strong forum]

you want to prevent

overcapping rage

if youre not overcapping rage, youre doing smth wrong with your other buttons

if you dont need to press IP to avoid capping

then youre doing smth inherently wrong

https://wowanalyzer.com/report/8BqAf9cNV6FLjMPt/42-Mythic+Maut+-+Kill+(5:46)/Chewtoy/standard

check this for example

i know its not fun

and it might offend you

but its facts

only trying to help here

[tame garden]

wrathion a bit different cuz you arent taking damage 90% of the time

but maut for sure

[inland mesa]

maut you also can't use abilities when you're in the void zone, so if you're taking adds timers will be off due to not being able to hit shit, and if they add casts desync you're in twice as much

[strong forum]

ye but missing 40 TC casts, 20 SS, wasting 10% of all your rage

kinda major

and with those missed abilities you also missed a ton of potential rage

feeding into AM

[inland mesa]

if I'm out getting an orb in right field I'm not going to hit TC just to hit it

if I'm in a void zone 1/3 of the fight, I'm going to miss casts

[tame garden]

you should hit tc just to hit it

it gives rage

[strong forum]

even then, youre taking 49k dtps

but only used IP TWICE

[left hatch]

looking back up to your previous msgs too, IP isn't something you hit just on "big hits" to smooth them

its to smooth all damage

[tame garden]

i dont think youre supposed to just chill in the void zones either

[strong forum]

completely ignoring strats

[tame garden]

doesnt that feed tons of mana to the boss

[hushed pier]

I was about to point that out too, for what I understood you remain at the void zone

[left hatch]

heck even if yo'ure popping it before you step into the void zones to ease that a bit is better than nothing

[frosty holly]

You get it into Void zone when it casts. Not live there

[strong forum]

neverminding strats completely

theres issues in your rotation

like it or not

[inland mesa]

correct, but if we're missing shield phase on maut casting another IP instead of a non free revenge doesn't help us break the shield faster

[strong forum]

you almost pressed revenge more often than TC

52 revenges

[frosty holly]

Thunderclap does more dmg then revenge tho?

[strong forum]

75 TC

my guy...

[left hatch]

you're missing the point, we arn't saying mash IP during periods of no damage just to pad uptime

yo'ure flat out using the ability wrong

[strong forum]

you are almost casting revenge more

than SS

which is by all means

utterly

wrong

[inland mesa]

and I don't live in the void zone, it starts to cast, you pull it in, you run it out

[strong forum]

you should have twice as many SS casts than revenge

[warm plinth]

What's wrong is Nome not being a booster anymore

😢

[left hatch]

saying you spend 1/3 of hte fight in void zones is misleading then

[inland mesa]

if the cast desyncs there's significant time in them. Is it a debuff, I could get a correct %

[lunar jackal]

what minors are people taking for keys?

[strong forum]

server boost is no longer free with nitro ghash

apparently

its only 30% off

so ye, cba

no longer special colour boi

until my promotion >:)

[oblique garnet]

[strong forum]

kekw

[warm plinth]

Are you only the $5 nitro?

[strong forum]

sphere/lucid/cns/aegis are the most common minors hroglar

yes

[warm plinth]

Ah okay

[strong forum]

nitro classic

[warm plinth]

Was gonna say I still get free boosts (2 of them) but I pay for the $10 one

[tame garden]

(((free)))

[warm plinth]

Well I would be paying for nitro anyway, and I don't pay for the boosts (which other people have to pay for), so yes, free

At least in the sense that a BOGO gives you something free :p

[tame garden]

$10 for the right to post is money well spent

[warm plinth]

It really is

Let's not forget

[strong forum]

not using IP

[sick sentinel]

Hi prot chat

[warm plinth]

👋

[analog zinc]

why cast IP when you can prio revenge over SS

who cares if the healers are having to tunnel you to keep you up

revenge will help kill add faster

that 1k dps difference between revenge & devastate is yuuuuge

[sick sentinel]

Can someone explain the context of this to me

[left hatch]

someone said his heal lead was demanding higher uptime of IP from him

framed it as healer wanted him to needlessly spam it even on downtime cause 'uptime'

linked logs turned out he used it like twice

and was dumping rage into Revenge when SS was up

and healer wasn't totally wrong about there being room for improvement

[analog zinc]

he just could have worded it better

"your healing from IP is shit" instead of "your IP uptime is shit"

[outer dew]

Only uptime I need is with @warm plinth

I can understand why they're saying uptime also

Because if its shown that theres low uptime on IP

He's either overlapping

Overcapping

Or just not using it

[left hatch]

eh usage would be a better metric cause uptime causes more confusion

[analog zinc]

^

he has the basic idea right

just not sure on how pwars do stuff in specifics

[left hatch]

overlapping/overcapping is nuanced where he flat out needs to push the button (:

[outer dew]

Sure, but I understand what he's trying to say from a healing perspective

Did you have the thing that helps your ass from being rammed?

No?

Fuck your uptime

😂

I get both sides

The statement of uptime imo is more nuanced in he needs to press the button more because he's leaving gaps

[warm plinth]

@outer dew is the only one who knows how to press my buttons 😉

[outer dew]

Ghash, iunno if I even wanna resub anymore

🥺

Reforged has me actually so sad

[analog zinc]

i refunded it so quick

[outer dew]

I'm not even upset that its shit

[analog zinc]

the keybinds were so fucking shit

i am

cuz it means the RTS genre stays dead

meaning no starcraft 3

i dont give a fuck about wc3 i just want sc3

[outer dew]

I'm upset that they fucked it up for anyone that owned TFT

I still regularly played TFT and dumped hours upon hours since I can remember

They essentially put a nail in the TFT community

[analog zinc]

i know that feel

shout out to dark souls remastered

a straight up downgrade from the original in everything but preformance

[warm plinth]

Why do you say that?

[analog zinc]

dark souls prepare to die edition was steadily holding on, but remastered killed it & then died 4 months later

[outer dew]

It also doubly sad when you see AoE2 remaster

And compare it to reforged

😂

[warm plinth]

idk, I can't imagine there was a huge amount of people doing PvP in that game anyway. I always felt like the PvP in that game sucked. Playing around massive lag is just silly.

[analog zinc]

ds1 had some of the most high iq pvp in any game i've ever seen

there's a reason some people consider it a fighting game

[warm plinth]

Yeah feels great getting killed by a FUGS from 15 feet away let me tell ya

[analog zinc]

thats dark souls 2

[warm plinth]

Or since we're talking DS1, a chaos zweihander

[left hatch]

of how Age of Mythology remaster added an entirely new expansion.... a decade after base game

[warm plinth]

Nah, fuck DS2. That game doesn't even exist

[analog zinc]

zwei sucks

ds1 is all about backstabs & dex weapons

[warm plinth]

Maybe at first, but I came into the game when DSR released and everyone was doing poise builds like giant dad. Doesn't really matter what you're playing as though. It's still 100% not fun to have to play around huge lag.

[outer dew]

Ooh

Gimme deets

On AoM new expo

[analog zinc]

yeah

when dark souls remastered came out

it was absolutely the most degenerate i've ever seen the PvP community

[left hatch]

yah the steam release dropped Chinese(?) gods and campaign

to add onto base + titans

[analog zinc]

i did get some good clips/vids from dsr tho

[warm plinth]

But I played a decent bit of DS3 PvP before that and it was just never fun to me

[analog zinc]

yeah i hate ds3 pvp

so linear

[warm plinth]

I did have some fun at times though when I played with a buddy. Using tree branches to hide and then ambush someone with friede's weapon or some shit 😂

[analog zinc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HoyRVcsRy0

thats a good clip i got

[brave skiff]

rank 1 lucid or rank 3 crucible of flame as a minor? whats better

[analog zinc]

cruc

[brave skiff]

kk

[analog zinc]

oh minor

uhh

cruc will do more dmg

[brave skiff]

yeah

i also have aegis rank 1

i still need to farm all the good essences

[analog zinc]

have fun with pvp

[left hatch]

id still go with cruc i think

[brave skiff]

hmm alright

[left hatch]

r1 of aegis and lucid is low value

sphere has a r1 that has the majority of its value tho

so thats a quick one to grab

r2 and 3 is just easier kiting

[brave skiff]

i just need marks of honor right?

i already have the 15k honor achievement

[left hatch]

i think r1 is win a ranked island BG and big BG

that might be ripple tho

check your quartermaster and if you can buy it itll be w/ marks of honor

[brave skiff]

i did that quest for blood of the enemy, now i can buy the sphere at a vendor

yeah

farming cns is gonna be really bad

im at 1k cr in 2s

15 weeks of pvp LUL

[left hatch]

just conquest cap outside of arena

do a few call to arms and invasions

[brave skiff]

but im only getting 1 per week then right

[left hatch]

world pvp > actual pvp

[brave skiff]

if my cr is low

[left hatch]

yah

[brave skiff]

15 weeks for a rank 3 essence

oof

[left hatch]

get yur rank up a bit

1600 = 3 weeks till r3

[brave skiff]

is 1600 hard ?

[left hatch]

nah

did it with a super undergeared hpally

and i was still in prot spec

[warm plinth]

you can pretty much just pretend it's PvE up to that point. Might take some losses but you'll get there

[brave skiff]

guess i'm gonna do some 2v2 arena then

thanks guys

[warm plinth]

Even 1400 cuts significant time off (5 weeks once you have R2)

[brave skiff]

you start losing cr at 1400 right?

[warm plinth]

It's a little lower than that; like 1250ish

Oh wait, rating

Sorry

Wait

I don't PvP much, I'm an idiot

[left hatch]

i think 1100 is where it can start dropping

[warm plinth]

Yeah, at about 1250 is when I started actually losing rating when I lost.

[brave skiff]

alright

[warm plinth]

Assumes you're starting from like nothing though

[left hatch]

but it depends who yo'ure grouped with too

[brave skiff]

i have 1160 right now

[warm plinth]

Yeah I think like MMR or some shit has something to do with it

[left hatch]

if your partner is way above you, you'll be paried with like 1700's and won't lose any when you lose

i was getting close to 100 a win and wasn't losing anything till ~1300-1400

which helped

[brave skiff]

:O

but the high ranked mate is gonna lose a lot right

if you lose

[left hatch]

mmm irrc even he didn't lose that much, 20-30? cause it was matching him with around his bracket

[brave skiff]

nice

[crystal dirge]

Man I just tanked 18 ML, and Rixa absolutely destroyed me 😄 swapped to never surrender and everything, but still 2-3 AA for a kill
I ended up going for 1 less BoM for a Bloodsport and feels like it helped, cant really block anyways so mastery is whatevs
Is any part of Rixxa's dmg blockable at all? all I see is searing reagent
Someone mentioned Azeroths Undying Gift major for high tyra for that boss, is that a thing?
Quick checked Femclap's +20 run, and he didnt seem to be taking that much damage, and also he was pumping 30-40k hps which I couldnt replicate
Any takes on this?

[warm plinth]

None of her damage is blockable. You can reflect every other Chemical Burn, and healer should be dispelling the ones you can’t reflect. But other than that, just rotate CDs/externals and spam that IP button.

[crystal dirge]

Thought so, was just making sure I didnt miss something

Heard anything about undying gift? Might be worth for every 2nd dmg phase, and it's okish for Razdunk inbetween 2 gatling guns

[left hatch]

i havn't heard anything about undying gift for it

[warm plinth]

Only issue with running something like that is that you either have to leave and come back or put up with having what amounts to an inferior major the rest of the dungeon

[left hatch]

null minor, lucid, cns for verse and rage gen

so you can spam more IP

and just pray

[sick sentinel]

More BoM = Bigger IP also

losing a bom is bad

mastery affects ip

[left hatch]

yah... id be inclined to believe the huge mastery increase would make a larger IP than 1 bloodsport would

[warm plinth]

What trinkets did you use for it

[crystal dirge]

vita+scale

no access to edict or a decent urchin

[warm plinth]

Yeah that’s a bummer. Would’ve helped haha

[sick sentinel]

I never said it'd be a bigger shield than bloodsport