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Or is it too difficult to test with it spawning on you
it is.... thats how radius vs diameter work
from me
and this dummy
is exactly 40 yards
that circle is definitely not 32 yards
honestly that seems pretty close to it
diameter is 1 point of the cirle to the opposite point
and that cirlce seems to be bit smaller than that range
I was not aware that an off-handed comment was going to spark a conversation about high school geometry.
but feelycraft away
that circle you said was 32 yards right?
thats the in game given value for 65ish corruption
the difference I make relatively from that screenshot and exactly 40 yards is vastly different
It's way smaller than what 32 yards should be
if you say so
I miss the times when #protection wasnt toxic
Same Late, same.
Sounds like you should ban the toxic people with your almighty anti-toxicity powers
i agree with that Nike guy.
Ban me big blue
Also true
Agree with the Nike guy about what
@sick sentinel and that's definitely not toxic Β―_(γ)_/Β―
I mean i wouldnt be surprised at the viable memes making comeback with this raid tier
between 'dks are strongest tank' and 'warrior C tier list' the planets are aligning nicely
apparenlty some ppl are having trouble pugging M+ as prot already (:
but a D tier player ):
In terms of raid there are other alternatives that are better than prot but in m+ dont think anything comes close maybe monk with endgame gear
I heard we are talking about toxicity and thought I should insert myself
Iβd like to submit my name for consideration
toxicity and idiocy are two different subjects
I get two awards? Fkn ez
445 sigil of warding or 430 eddicts?
any idea?
Anybody know what's up with tanknotes?
It took forever to load last night and can't get it tonight
working fine for me
not sure why it's so slow for me. Neither would load for the last 30 mins now it's loading but spinning for a while. What explorer you use?
I'm on chrome
firefox
gonna try ff
cleared 10/12 HC tonight, the only time I had any sort of problem as prot was on Ilgynoth 2nd blast
I barely had to use any cd otherwise
Any info or theorycrafting on how to deal with the tankbuster lieutenant tho?
Also worth noting that Ilgy 2nd blast 1shot me around 760k with 0 mitigation. with demo+reflect+bark it got me to around 40% hp with 446 ilvl
What can be spell reflected by the awakened m+ affix bosses?
halp, 410 pocket sized or 430 rezan's
430 rezan's probably
Why cant I get these >.>
does anybody know if echoing void gains stacks off haste after it procs?
Like the 1ppm then once it procs it gains stacks
is the stack gaining haste based?
i don't understand the question
you gain 1 stack on every gcd spent
every time you use an ability -> 1 stack gain
ah ok
unless it's currently collapsing
so it does go by haste
if it's dealing damage you can't gain stacks until it's oevr
yes
meaning you can perma have high stacks the entire dungeon
except for energy classes, haste does not affect it
if you have enough haste
no, that's not how it works
you gain stacks, when it collapses it removes stacks
it's either building or collapsing at all times and the higher the stacks the higher the probability it collapses
each pulse of the collapse removes 1 stack and it pulses until it hits 0
so if you have 200% haste the entire time and you get a fuck ton a stacks before it collapses.
gcd is capped at 100% haste
so if you have 100% haste
for non-energy classes
and it doesn't matter how many stacks you get before collapsing
on average it always deals the same
so 50 stacks does the same damgae as 10
..no
every stack deals the same damage
but it pulses that many times
so if you have a 50 stack it pulses 50 times before you can build again
Yes yes, what I mean is
there is functionally no difference between getting 10 stacks, having it collapse, getting another 10, and having it collapse
and getting 20 before it collapses
it does exactly the same amount of damage in the same amount of time
If you get it to high stacks because of your haste is higher, and you then notice it's collapsing thus you pull more to get more benefit on more mobs at the same time rather than have like 5 stacks collapsing and then have to build it up in a big pull again and do no damage to that pull
it would be better
I don't care about damage output
I'm talking about timing with high stacks and haste
because you'll get more out of it
like that
realistically you never get to high stacks anyway
for me i think the highest iv seen it at was 11
it collapses really often
I'm not over thinking, I'm asking about possibilities about min maxing
Lets say you go into a pull and your stacks are collapsing on only 1 mob
it usually collapses around 5-8 stack
and then you pull 20 mobs and you're gaining stacks
so it literally doesn't matter
How so?
it averages out always
echoeing is split damage
to half uptime
and split dmg
so it literally doesn't matter
there is no min maxing
It doesn't matter if it's split
Doing damage to a bigger pull
even if it's exactly the same amount of damage as 1
It's better
because you want as much damage as you can on bigger pulls
rather than on one mob
It's a waste
That's what I'm discussing
unless you're doing more damage than that mob has health it's not a waste
I don't care about that one mob tho
I want all my damage to be on high density mobs
Because that's where the timing comes in and having pulls be less risky
resulting in being able to do larger pulls
If you go into a pull and you wipe to mobs and that damage you could of had with echoing would of saved you
It's like the same discussion as to whether you should use edicts on physical or magical
You lost damage
You always use physical
unless end of ML
because you get the most out of it
exactly like I'm discussing
Yes
the point is
And you still get the most out of your damage on one target unless you're exceeding the hp pool
I know it does the same amount of damage
I literally dont' care
about the damage it does on average vs bigger and smaller pulls
Your confirmation bias doesn't care*
That's information that doesn't need to be regarded
I'm talking about
If doing a pull
???
"let's just throw out the data cuz reasons"
Well obviously you guys don't have an answer because you are ignorant to that type of information. It's exactly like the discussion about Lucid. Same information. You only use lucid if you would otherwise die on that pull. It's the same thing with what I'm talking about. Wouldn't echoing void be better if you used in bigger pulls where having that damage would of otherwise saved you from wiping if you did; rather than not having it at all
and thus wiping
Not even close to the same as lucid
It's exactly the same concept
I think what they're trying to get at is that the larger the pull, the smaller the damage Echoing does per mob. So you're not actually gaining anything by it collapsing on a larger pull.
I really don't care about the damage splitting
or the damage output on doing it on bigger mobs
I know it does
EXACTLY
the same damage
Echoing literally gains nothing from being used on larger pulls
I don't even think you know what you're arguing at this point
vs 10k on single target
Because that 1k you were doing especially since other people probably going to have echoing void also
is going to save you on massive pulls
than if you didn't have it
????
x to doubt
Literally the same concept
so you're telling me
as lucid
the required dps to survive on a huge pull rises multiplicatively
1k DPS is going to save you on a 10 mob pull? π€
If you need 1k more dps on those mobs
Yes?
Then you would of gained more benefit from it :)
1k DPS is gonna shorten that pull by like 0
1k dps on 5 different people
If you're doing obscenely large pulls forget echoing void what you need are Unholy DKs
Yeah if you want something that benefits you on larger pulls, then you would want something more like Twilight Devastation because that doesn't split.
EV isn't going to make any realistic difference in your survival
Yeah, any of those would scale better with pull size than EV
The haste one would be way better than EV
and the fact that EV tends to collapse mostly between 3-8 stacks
are your pulls somehow lasting less than 10 gcds
on pulls that big
but for your original question about trying to minmax around stack sizes
it collapses pretty regularly
and theres no way to force it
so you can't really bank up charges
and then expend them on giga pulls anyway
so in terms of reliably using it to giga pull anyway its a moot point
another reason why its a completely different situation than lucid major
there is way too much trash in this raid
And if your goal is to giga pull there are far more impactful choices to make that have nothing to do with gear such as group comp
i've only actually noticed EV once
i entered p3 of carapace, & at that point you run to the middle of the room, & wait for him to run over to you
but from what iv noticed EV doesn't scale with haste
my EV popped at 18 stacks, I missed like 6 or 7 of them
either because theres an internal cd for how often stacks build (like with searing flames) or maybe i didn't deviate the haste difference enough to notice a diff
it's one per gcd
but the stack gain seemed to be roughly the same
ah ok so it does scale with haste to a point
anyway, 2 days in & I'm 11/12N 11/12H
ouch, n'zoth that bad on normal too?
well
on normal, we 1 shot everything but a single wipe to ra-den
11 wipes to n'zoth & we switched to heroic
we just now tried (heroic) n'zoth after killing h carapace, & he seems signifigantly easier
still a hard fight tho
also carapace fucks
So Marking Bar is breaking constantly...and I am using it for Skitra; anyone else have a better marker addon, or know why markingbar is breaking?
Opie
i'm literally rank 2 prot warrior in the world
get on my level 8)
445 sigil or 460 humming dragonscale?
really? thought dragonscale sucks
how would it
I just got an item with twilight devastation, bumping me to 20 corruption. Now, I know it's tame, but I wonder if it's worth the hassle when my other piece is a void ritual
its the same haste per minute as Rezan's, which is a top tier trinket for pwar
except its more consistant than rezans'
void ritual fucking sucks
twilight dev sucks on single target, its only good on big aoe
So you would cleanse the void ritual piece?
Or just deal with the minor corruption eye
nothing corrupted
you dont need to run all corrupted
I know
1 sec
I don't have another piece, no
Simulation data for everyone. Overview of DPS relevant simulation data for World of Warcraft.
according to that, twilight dev is worth 54dps per corruption, & void ritual is worth just 17, that's assuming every twilight dev hits the target
void ritual just kinda sucks
i would never go up a corruption danger tier for it
2bom/1dc/3ms/2op π€ seems hasty to me
you can't get 3 ms?
Proudmoore emissary azerite
you cant get 3 ms at relevant ilevel*
overclock/recal card :)
3 ms, 3 OP
rezan with recal/overlocks
that's on average
what, 1k extra haste?
with lust increase too
I do have the 1.2k haste proc on boots
thats a lot more that 1k average
that's tier 3 increase
whats*
%
with 1.2k haste proc, and what 15% haste gain from all sources?
that's like 2/2.5k
fucking zoomer tank
sphere
luckily for me the helm is tom+ms or i'd be doing alot of re-traiting
Yep
its about on par with UF (some pieces have both)
so its feelycraft which one is better
i need a helpful opinion. I assume the weapon from Wrathion is definitely worth using, which corrupted pieces would you suggest i remove to use it?
none
iv been doing heroic raid and M+ with 38 corruption with no problems
28 is more than manageable in all content
oh 1 sec didn't notice you had bracers too
probably the %crit one...
or jsut don't use wrathions
gushing wound is more dps than searing flames
with all 4 i'd be at 48 lmkao
right
43 i mean
either %crit or just cleanse searing flame
so that might be a bit hard in real keys haha
searing flames does a bit more dps, %crit has defensive value
so pick your poison
either will drop you to 33 or 13 which is ez mode
is dropping ilvl for corruption piece (echoing void) worth using?
10 - 15 ilvls give or take
sim
I would literally drop 70 ilvl for an ev
If I donβt get corruption soon I will do irreversible damage to the earths core
i have zero regrets about the 455s im not wearing. and this is just a t1 π
π
Grats
I got the Normal Tank trink from Muat and just got the Heroic Dragonscale. Was hoping for the weapon but I will take it. π
The weapon from first boss? Is that our best or should we rather get one that had Infinite Stars or Echoing Void?
IS/EV are both currently better because of numbers.
But itβs just more random huh?!
Jeah.
Dam it all!!!
do yall think the raden trinet ciombo will be any good
Have had 100% pure shit luck on corruption pieces but it is week 1 so I am not too terribly upset
Only one I got was a single ring with a crit proc that gives 35 corruption.... =.=
@limber pagoda best weapon will be w/e you can get at highest ilvl, if you spam M+ you can get a nice assortment of corrupted pieces to get your IV/ES stacks
imo dw about high impact pieces like wep/shield corrupting and just go for ilvl there
true, but i wouldn't stress about 'what corruption is on my ewapon'
just stress about 'what pieces can ifindEV/IS on'
and thenjust cleanse wrathion (:
Smh, can't even meme properly cause of the orange name.
smh my head
The game is killing stuff for you. π
Preparing for that WoW mobile release.
I just want MoP back π’
i'd settle for legion
Some people like chocolate ice cream, some people like rocky road
And some people like
Legion
hmmmmmmmmm


tbc
π #vanilla-discussion
tbc isnt classic doe
not yet
silly condiment
Legion was fun tho. :(
I actually enjoyed playing multiple tank classes then..after the horrible RNG legendary fest.
#tbc-discussion
π¦
Honestly if tyrannical didn't exist in Legion, M+ would've been perfect
unpopular opinion : legion m+ was degenerate π¦
Only because of some certain boss mechanics imo.
giga pull + kiting wasn't exactly my idea of fun
π€ @undone sun
π€
β
I diddn't mind gigapulling and kiting. π¦
Meanwhile us MoP fans had full fun with vengeance where you were rewarded for handling risk well
yeah, i would have loved to experience MoP tanking, but that's like shooting for the stars
why i'd settle for legion
is ritual feather from turtle emissary good?
alright old man
wow good?
hi, does any1 know how many shred of insanity u get from bgs?
for the new crafted gear
Tested Vulpera Racial in Wc 18,19 and SotS 20 allways around 12% of overall heal, 2,8 mil in WC 4 mil in SotS, allways Rank 3 after IP and Urchin. So definitly worth a try.
whats actual hps on vulp racial for those keys
too bad about the on use
The use is totally bullshit beeing on teh global and doing lit nothing π¦
Heyho guys, is the new Void-Twisted trinket better than Edict?
Mainly in M+? That crit buff and vers is pretty appealing
for ST dps when avatar is up, do I use thunderclap on a higher priority than shield slam? exclusively from a dps perspective
mh has someone a weak aura that triggers shamy earthquake under me? :S
no aDDi SS is higher prio
TC used to do more damage than SS in avatar window in 8.2 but they nerfed that talent
so now SS does more damage
thanks
What are the trinket options for prots at higher M+ atm? Looking at new trinkets i feel like most will still use edicts+urchin combo. Are there any viable options? Or back to Vial+rezan just because of itemlvl?
Rezans/Block.
Urchin/Edict.
Question: 445 vers/mas with Ineffable Truth (cd reduction) or 460 with just haste/vers??? (wrists)
I see Sense got lucky with the infinite star lottery, lovely to see a Pwarrior up there
@winged echo honestly i'd probably use the Ineffable Truth ones. Bracers aren't the biggest source of stats so the proc gains some value..even tho it's RNG.
hello guys, I want ask something weapon first raid boss corruption traits bis for tank or useless
It seems very weak, about the same cost as a t2 Echoing Void, but does about 1/8 of the damage.
But to be fair, Echoing Void is mongo strong.
Ev/is are both stupid broken right now.
It's not useless per-se since :
1)It's a guaranteed effect from a 1h wpn.
2)IS/EV are both RNG drops
3)Looking currently how IS/EV are performing i'd expect them to get re-balanced some time in the future.
they need to take a look all the direct damage ones, all of them are incredibly broken in different situations
remember when we all thought crit multi would be the broken one
that was pre buff
Everyone keeps talking about how we expect subsequent nerfs to certain corruptions, but Iβm sure many of us have played through expansions with broken itemization before.
Not this broken. π
Maybe theyβre setting a new standard!
there have been broken stuff before
not 500ilvls worth of effect on a single piece though
IS is insanely broken
We basically shouldnβt use corruption unless itβs EV or IS right?
It seems like everything else is a waste of corruption
Depends on ilvl of the items you acquire. If itβs similar ilvl then using it is fine. Just donβt go so high in corruption it affects your ability to survive or do mechanics.
I'm using a mastery proc + the stat stacking one since i got nothing else .π€·
Leaves me at like 25 or something corruption so it's not a issue.
How do i bribe the game to give me corrupted items?
Killing boars in Elwynn Forest and sacrificing them to the Old gods.
Thank you, ill try that
So im better off doing wq's ? π
Unironically yes
Oh shit
Do 13 m+, dont get any corrupted items, Do 1 emissary, get Echoing Void 
Do all gear world quests and emmisaries
Seems best chance at corruption atm
I wonder how common it is from arena loot
with dailies giving 250-325 visions do we still have to bank keys to get rank15 earlies as possible?
Yes and no
Yes, because the runs still take more than you can earn in a week (at times) and having some as back up never hurts.
But, the no part is that you will Cap what you can store earlier and then do them so you donβt waste them
What is max corruption level you would be as a tank
I have the two negative effects currently with the eyeball. Doesnβt really seem to be an issue
But donβt think Iβd want any more
Also seems like I was lucky to get a rank 2 INfinite stars piece
As high as you can without putting your raid/group At risk. Its very dependant on situation and What content youβre doing
If youβre not dying or healers dont have to babysit you then you can push it. Iβll be trying HC on my Prot warr tomorrow with 59 corruption
And i wont drop it unless Im a burden to my group
Interesting Iβll jusr have to experiment
I don't like the ghost chasing you randomly chunking you for 50% of your HP
And / or rooting you
Have we gotten any more insight into the trinkets?
Kinda MonkaS as tank
I wouldnβt hit 40. No need
Yeah 59 corruption means youβre getting hit for 60% of your hp when that thing pops you in the mouth
How the fuck are you guys getting so much corruption
Not worth imo
If you dont take a lot of damage then its whatever with taking 50% chunks. Taking 50% damage is only dangerous If you are also taking a lot of other damage
Is my luck that bad π¦
Just play the game...
I guess I got rank 2 IF on like day 2
BTW I haven't in 7 days cuz vacation haHAA
Uncorrupted purists
Thatβs 50 corruption ha
Yes Speg
If youβre taking No damage(HC bosses) then you can take chunks of hits without any problem. He asked for the MAX corruption, and its entirely situational is What my point is
The heroic bosses still hurt at times with the magic damage maestro
Some HC bosses hit a bit, most dont
Some of them
Yeah, so once again its situational. If youβre taking a lot of damage, then taking chunks of damage is not good. If youβre taking low damage then its whatever
How many have you killed riki
I missed wrathion cause traffic on the way home. But 4. Fun fights though
uwu
uwu
Noooooooo
xanesh soccer boss
I played soccer
:0
You mean the boss where 1 person can solo the soccer game but 3 people constantly fail cuz they're retarded?
We had OTs do it
Yes that one nome
We took 10 pulls to kill it LMAO
That's gonna be a shitshow for us on mythic
I just afk dpsed the boss
Guess offtanks can play soccer tho
Yeah, current OT can do it

You guys are being entirely too loud for this early in the day
Tonight I pray hivemind drops me the weapon
Otherwise I may just pug it 5 times to spend every last coin
This early? Bruh I just came back from the slopes snowboarding, I'm fucking dead
Ran over an old dude accidentally
I need to pug wrathion this week
Same riki
You could come to our alt raid if you weren't alliance π
@tame garden that dot hurts. Good thing Dwarf works on it
Ur eu tho
Ravager dot on hivemind
Ah
I will get carried by alt run. Sign me up

Are you inviting yourself Ghash?
Yes
If your alt is 440+ then maybe
Itβs your alt run
Itβs my main
But Iβm a bad player so itβs kinda like an alt
my guild wanted to do normal so i get to pug heroic cause things like that make sense >.<
Feelsbad
π¬
Shields coming from trash drop and ilgynoth makes me sad
Had mind flay corrupt shield drop from trash, then ilgy dropped his too


Grats sense!
That's alot
Ye but I'd rather loot that's good for raid early in the tier
Guess I can use it in hivemind and vexiona
Did dogshit damage on skitra we were super pepega on the intermissions
Next week I'll just pad on an illusion while we figure out the real one
always pad! better than being marker placer XD
Hey guys how much dps +- should i do on a st fight with a gs of 445?
and can i sim with dungeon slice for m+ stats with raidbots or are there fix stats what i should aim for?
Itβs really hard to say right now Streich. Itβs going to depend a lot on what corruption you use / have, trinkets, etc
Dungeon slice is not recommended
And sims are only for offense. Typically for m+ I just go defensive and if Iβm not dying I can pull bigger
living = bigger pulls = more TC dmg = more dps
25-28k ST is acceptable, 30-35k is top tier, higher is always great (assuming 0 corruption)
Streich just look at top logs of warriors with similar ilvl and no corruption for an idea on dps
Depends on boss as some have downtime
Corruption skew dps ALOT
hm ok thanks, i do with my warri +-40k dps but with my feral on the same ilvl i do just around 30k
EV?
Echoing Void
I pull 50k overall with no corruption... in mechagon: junkyard π
Lol
Zap op
Yup
Workshop is the 'then' ring
Ye
Aight
I'm already dreading when I get home
Doing like 6 assaults 7 visions
Shitton of dailies
Meme+, raid, and all of that on 1 Sunday
I cri
Good luck sir
Going Ham on m+ this weekend / coming week
Have you done any awakened keys yet
I love making routes for it
Mdt did a great job implementing the portals
Whats an awakened key?
awakened is the new +10 affix
I haven't done it in a high key yet
But it was super faceroll at 10
Blob on high lvl might be scary if you dont do him with last boss, his minions dont fuck around
Blob ain't too bad
Zone in before every1, tell them to wait, get all of them to cast flay on you and reflect all 4
Rest group comes in, Los tentacles and they all port stacked, cleave down
Dont need to kite far, just los is enough to port them?
Ya
This is great to know thx
And reflecting does like 35%? Ish to each one
Iv been doing blob with bosses 1/2 the time
him and the bug are basically free
w/o their adds
Ya
The blob + tank buster are fine to pull with last boss on ad
If you dont have enough burst it causes some spice
also gets the most annoyingly placed obelisks outta the way this week
Can't wait to watch people try to do last boss of an instance with all 4
Will be hilarious
Think itβll be possible eventually?
Just take 4 warriors and a shaman. Boom - no fear problem
True
Problem is you dont get to use any obelisks for skips
And no shroud in your epic comp
Just mow through everything
There are 6 two handers in that group and two shield boys. Youβre good to go

Initial thoughts on seasonal?
Yes
I love it
It's so nice to do pulls without beguiling again
And the portals are a fun mechanic to plan around
^^^
I haven't done the new affix yet; looking forward to it though
Been trying to farm lower keys for corrupted shit but fuck the drop rate is garbage
Doing some keys last night. I went to go start the Emissary and it wasnβt there. βOh... right.. no emissary any more lolβ
Better off gearing alts or doing pvp this week imo
At the rate I'm going, I'll have two 485 titanforges before I get a decent corrupted piece
does the shield of mechagon is good for war prot ?
Grats
I got a socketed mecha shield with leech corruption last night... on my shaman. Warr still rocking a 430 shield π’
Whatβs everyone using in their 3rd minor? Raid/M+
Do you need corruption resistance?
Because thatβs a deciding factor
For raid, for the most part so far, Iβm going offensive. Whatever sims the highest is what Iβm using.
For m+ full defensive is what I usually go. VoP major, aegis, cns, lucid minor. Sphere is another good option as a minor
But if youβre new to tanking, or recently returning; defensive is usually the better way to go until you get comfortable
do I remember correctly btw that you can equip a mythic and a heroic tier crafted ring together? or is that complete bollocks?
Iirc no, but you can equip EP mythic ring and NY mythic ring from JC
So the 440 from EP JC
- 470 from nyalotha JC
But I don't think you can equip 2 nyalotha jc rings
oki, thanks
You can also get the BoE ring - it comes with a socket
@tame garden how much would you pay for a shield?
It could Nome. I donβt know if theyβve fixed that yet
I know someone with that double socketed ring
Disgusting
Nome, I donβt have it. Thereβs one listed on the AH. 460
10mil gold right there
Think it has TD on the shield. But Iβm probably just going to get a mythic shield so donβt care about the TD
We got super lucky with boes
Dropped at least 4 on Tuesday
The raid has way too much trash
And riki idk I wouldnt pay much for a shield but war is my alt so less important to me

I would pay maybe like 150k for a 460 this week
Just to get it over with
Next week like 50k, 90k with good corruption
Asking price - 3M for that 460 shield with i think TD
What rank are your cloaks btw?
Ok so im only one behind then
I started a week late
Is there a cap for the cloak
Or is it infinite
Rank 15
Oh ok
I've read it's not capped at 15
You can still get corruption resistance levels, just not stats or smth like that
can you block the n'zoth tentacle void lash
City was it you talking about vex yesterday
Yes @analog zinc
ya hogs
Iβm at cloak 6. But will be seven after we run @manic scaffold Going to mess around with masks
Cause I had a raid day yesterday so my feedback might actually mean something now lol I just think yalls kill time was a bit long. Itβs like a built in enrage.
@analog zinc
Void lash is like physical and magic at same time
Are you guys running as prot?
7 mins heroic?
Yeah ours was barely over 5
damn thats quick
Like 5:20 or something
we had zero deaths on the 7m kill
Our men were slamming. Who is your off tank
another pwar
Or what rather
Double b tier theres your problem
@calm glen for horrific visions? Yeah, Iβm running in a group as prot
Yeah we have a monk so I basically just have him tank until it hurts in p4 and I take over at low stacks
our strategy was to let me take as many stacks as possible then just die
Do you feel prot contributes a lot to the group? I was starting to gear for fury so I could push more in my visions
we killed it a few seconds before i would have died
Seems like it will be the mythic go to strat
Maybe Iβll try to find a group so I can run prot
I feel a tank adds a lot to the group. Pull big, los the mobs to group them up, cleave a bunch down
Basically just running with my m+ group
Warrior in general doesn't contribute to any raid besides battle shout and commanding shout
Oh for visions
π€·ββοΈ
So, very specific question here but maybe someone had the same questioning
And chad personalities
@sick sentinel @analog zinc ahh yes. The old βkill yourself save the raidβ strategy
I got Faralos, Empire's Dream, but the effect is a really dissapointing amount of DPS
Yes
Does speccing out of devastator to spam devastate pump out more dps with that thing ?
since it really triggers every 30 offensive casts
@strong forum disagree. We have externals to grant for the other tank every 15 seconds
π€·ββοΈ
because bounding stride
Never bothered, and bounding yes
have you seen the amount of mobility needed in Nyalotha ?
its crazy, almost makes me want to go back veng DH
the arenas are always huge
Never even considered that tbh
Is sphere worth farming for 15 keys?
If you need the Haste, yes
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anyone got Faralos, Empire's Dream yet ?
I run with a spriest. We figured out, for our comp, safeguard was necessary in some high keys due to unavoidable damage
i have it @mystic whale
Safeguard to protect WEAK players riki
I wonder if its worth speccing out of devastator
because right now it does such a disappointing amount of damage
i use it in m+ so i am runnin booming voice. in m+ it does about 8-12% of my overal damage
i wouldnt really count on it for single target tho
so maybe get a second one, and have one cleansed
yeah I guess it's a M+ thing without devastator
Devastator is better for ST damage, BV is generally better though because it provides offensive and defensive benefit. Know your limits and weigh the tradeoffs is the only advice I can give you
I have it, and run booming. On heroic prophet it did ~5% of my damage.
@sick sentinel check out Faralos' corruption effect
it triggers every 30 offensive cast
if you have devastator it removes the only spammable skill we have
Whatβs the corruption effect called
searing breath I think ?
Ah
Yes
Iβm not changing my talents for it. Especially at this point in a tier. Doesnβt really appear worth it imo cause youβll still proc it with BV
well its clear that to maximise its output you need to use not-devastator
im just wondering if devastator just does straight up more dps
I would think devastator does proc it
Since it is an offensive cast
That just happens to proc on your auto
is it just me or does the Void Ritual proc... kinda suck? I'm debating cleansing it
It does indeed suck compared to dmg procs
But it's better than no corruption at all
And prolly good at t3 once the dmg procs have been nerfed
Since it'll be like 600 stats of all secondaries at t3 or smth
honestly i like the damage corruptions, they just need to bring the stat ones up to be more inline. but i know blizzard wont do that
@sick sentinel he pumps. Just doesnβt have a lot of defensives if fights take a while. Please see Crawg in high tyrannical URs
Hey, is their already a spreadsheet about abilities to block or counterspell for Nyalotha? π
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I still have my 15 TD
If you're pugging just do some other, but either way, yes zul slaps
Maybe I can sell a carry for it
He killed me when we got him to 20% and I got brezzed
Awakened seems like it adds much more time for some of these dungeons
Like for kings rest, how many packs can you realistically skip? One?
I offered up my 15 key to run with guildies so they can get a 475 on reset. Got stuck with a 15 KR as well, really not looking forward to it.
Yeah...
On King's rest you can skip entire bridge to 3rd boss
And then take the portal back
Take 2nd Portal to zul
Entire last bridge?
Yes there's 2 obelisks before Bridge afaik
So you take 1 to 3rd boss, then take same Portal back, take new obelisk to zul
How do you attain the % required ?
@limpid pawn howβd that nerf to Zul feel.
It was just what was needed right? Really am glad they didnβt nerfed his damage
if only we could use an obelisk to get past zul π’
Well, just.. Get it? There's like 130% if you clear bridge
Maybe Iβm too much of a noob here lol, but it seems like I never have enough until we kill everything except one pack on last bridge
Usually am close to, or at full count when we get to bridge
Next time Iβll do that
What rawful said
I am skipping 2 golems
And don't those obelisks give count too
Very little count
Riki the zuul nerf doesnβt seem like it helped , but I think there was no nerf because my butt got pummeled
Like 4? Count I think per
I was typing for this dude to drop darkness
But azralon
I have google translate open in my second window
But itβs not quick lol
Second monitor
But I love pugs dude

Leech meme on the Rise

for my fourth essence im using sphere, it's so godly
About 90% too little
I recently did a 110% leech 100% reflect build in divinity original sin 2
That was fun
Me
160 hrs on it,
116hrs 1st play through 2 man 4 character
Rest 2nd playthrough 2 man 2 characters lonewolf
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I may unlock vulpera on weekend
And meme on it
racially you guys thinkt heir worth it?
atm im a zandalari
No dont go vulpera for racials it's bad
@ionic fern what is your opinion on how WoW translates languages? its a critical issue of the day that demands you provide a public opinion
Go vulpera for bis tmog
what do you mean BIS tmog? lol
:kekw
What else is new.
did you clear normal
Wait, busy wiping on HC.,
ok @tame garden i admit the tmog looks awesome lol

Any of yβall mythic raiding as tank? How you dealing with the damage anything extra for the magic or just same ole build and be tough.
For most of the magic tank busters you have spell reflect to mitigate
And its more than sufficient
But havnt seen shadar or further yet
Demo/ip/sr/SW are all great tools to midigate magic dmg
Dark iron is amazing - personal opinion.
Watching monk Ot (NElf for m+) get the stacking bleed from ravager and die last night. Then I take second stack and dwarf it off was soooooo nice
I really like DA for m+ too... makes KR berserkers and necrotic trivial
should I race change to volpeera is this the thing to do now?
Vision major, conflict/null/formless minor
Ty
from what iv heard (don't have one yet) its on par with an equal ilvl rezans


heroic was a warrior nothing felt the least bit scary tanking. We'll see on mythic
You get any good loot for me Chew?
what was scary was how many times we died to soccer boss as people clearly didn't get the concept or prep at all π’
all I've gotten so far is 460 boots to upgrade my 455. We got a shield but they gave it to a shaman as it had rank 3 tendrils on it for like 10k extra dps lol
Nice
I also have a 455 shield though, and rank 3 IS
time to make a mythic trash farm group week 1 to get a shield, because dear lord there is so much trash in this instance
at one point we had spent like 30 mins on trash trying to get to a boss
but also trying to levitate skip everything XD
Yeah it's a bit absurd how much trash is in this raid
Clearing in 1 night will be a marathon
Nothing skippable?
you can try to death skip, but like every other pack has see invis mobs
Just have full nelf group for MDI raid strats
There's some skips I've seen on method splits
I should probably be watching those, but first week of classes....I've answered 300 emails since Tuesday and still have 120 in queue, and appointments every 30 mins π’
corruption is such a worse system than tf
I'd like to formally apologize for the shit show that is corruption
but no, college professor and advisor D:
start of the semester is hell
are you asking me out? π
OKSkyhold
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Ghash no longer the boomer
I'm not old enough to be technically a boomer, so you still win Ghash
Woah
I'm not old enough to be a boomer either
I'm not even on the edge lol
Ye you're a millennial
I'm on the very edge of being a zoomer 
According to urban dictionary
Me neither
You're missing a generation lul
Am I