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warm plinth
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@ionic fern Everyone gets void ritual on the bracers

wooden radish
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you embarassment

ionic fern
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DO you think orange name has times to play the game????

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Smh

warm plinth
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It's the other two items that people are getting other shit on

ionic fern
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Update EEEVERYTHING

tame garden
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How are the leech graphs coming along lazy orange name

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πŸ™‚

warm plinth
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😬

ionic fern
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They are my top priority.

tame garden
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I need to know the new leech caps so I can plan my corruption

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Pls I raid tonight

wooden radish
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are you saying that i can use lucid rank 3 and leech corruption gear for big leech?

warm plinth
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πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

tame garden
wooden radish
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this discord needs a leech emote

leaden grail
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does strength of the warden minor also proc when im full hp?

wooden radish
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yes

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it does proc at full hp

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and it consumes the full healing amount

leaden grail
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that makes it kinda shitty huh

ionic fern
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We will probably have new people coming to the discord so be sure to not meme Leech too much, kkty.

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And yes, it is shitty @leaden grail

wooden radish
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yes, its one of the reasons its shitty yes

tame garden
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That's why we need the graphs

wooden radish
sick sentinel
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Did someone say the magic word

ionic fern
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No.

still flame
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@wooden radish so ive got Cloak to Rank 3 after winning. have 9.4 coalescing. So I have to go get 600 more (I already did the dailies) to d another, and then going forward just do the dailies to get more coalescing

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anything im missing?

wooden radish
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nope

still flame
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ok cool. is there a way to get Coalescing besides the dailies?

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or am I just stuck at 9.4k til tomorrow

chilly brook
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@ionic fern I'll log this heroic clear for you tonight with that corruption effect

ionic fern
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Thanks. :) Can dm me if you remember

sterile mantle
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Which one you trying @chilly brook

inland mesa
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@still flame you can farm six fragments for a key in each zone and get an extra 750 CV a day - 500 from vale, 250 from uldum because why make the chests both the same amount

still flame
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thanks!

high sierra
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hi guys ! I recently boosted my prot warr and I've now 415 ilvl and the legendary cloak, can I do visions in prot or should I switch spec to do them?

warm plinth
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You can also open chests in each zone or kill rares or complete bonus objectives to get more.

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Not gonna lie I wouldn’t try visions at 415 lol. I’d try to get some more ilevel and try later in the week

tame garden
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You could do them in prot but your dps will be kinda shit

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And you'll take forever on the bosses

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(At 415)

high sierra
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should I fury or arms?

warm plinth
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If you’re able to get to and kill Thrall, you probably just wanna do that for all your attempts this week.

high sierra
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just killing boss for cloak levels

tame garden
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Whichever you're more comfortable with

warm plinth
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Focus on the cloak upgrade and worry about bonus objectives later

strong forum
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man...

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infinite stars t1 is bad in m+

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only did 1.4k overall

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but atleast did 46k on WM 19

modern brook
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Icy veins said 1-5 you should just kill thrall

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and then work on other shit later

tame garden
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If you're a coward

slim pier
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if you're a sperg

modern brook
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😬

tame garden
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Can easily start doing 2 side zones once you have the orb

modern brook
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I felt the same after i got it

soft prairie
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are any of the new tank trinkets any good?

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icyveins, bloodmallet, wowhead all suggest to use different pieces

sullen valve
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wowhead main trinkets are raid drops only and alternate are all. icyveins rates trinkets on pure survivability meaning on the defensive trinkets should line up. Then icy does ALL trinkets not just raid so the only 2 that should line up are the Alternate trinkets

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and the bloodmallet only does dps trinket which icy doesn't do and wowhead does. Bloodmallet also doesn't sim pocket sized for some reason so you wont see it there

novel agate
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if you are going to do them, id go fury over arms as fury has more self healing, a slow, and a fear. you also never realy fight more than 5 mobs at a time so you dont lose out on AOE

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you can easily do one side + thrall 1-5 and get more titan research coins, you get 150 per extra side.

plush prism
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this might just be me, but does anyone else love when you're running the opposite direction of a random and you use intercept on them to a) save a little time and b) give them a nice buff for a few seconds?

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it makes me feel so wonderfully benevolent πŸ˜„

warm plinth
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Uh, I think the second part is definitely just you lol

exotic spoke
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36K ap to go

waxen cradle
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To what neck level ?

exotic spoke
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75

strong forum
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im halfway to 72 deswind

waxen cradle
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nice how much is 75 total if ya remember was wondering how fast the artifact power requirement increases by per level

exotic spoke
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like 50k?

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The grind is tiny

waxen cradle
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nice thats not bad at all

exotic spoke
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more importantly, for my goals at least, its looking like i'll have 4, maybe 5, of the horrific visions talents before I start going in for cloak upgrades

waxen cradle
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of course knowing my luck it could shoot up after 75

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I have like 2 total I think the first given and the second immediate one at rank 2 which I should get to rank 3 and start a new one today

strong forum
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70-75 is 150k

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total

waxen cradle
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working on neck level 73 right now

strong forum
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or some shit

exotic spoke
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I just wish I got a second corrupted piece >.>

strong forum
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oh btw

waxen cradle
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all of my corrupted have had shit corrupted procs or been like 420 or 430 as well, well not procs but just shit corruption bonuses

strong forum
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i got t3 twilight deva on VDH

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shit crits for 400k in meta

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πŸ™‚

waxen cradle
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damn hell yeah

tame garden
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Hiw

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How

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Are you getting so many corruptions

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:(

strong forum
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just play the game

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lmao

tame garden
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I'm pissed

rich beacon
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One from each assault and some luck

strong forum
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ye i got this from first vision

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420

oblique garnet
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imagine not being 75 yet πŸ™‚

distant crystal
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i only got lucky on my druid 😦

strong forum
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but the corruption fucking destroys you

distant crystal
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our fucking brew maintank got 445 + s + infinite stars from his vale assault

strong forum
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80% slow, into MASSIVE Nope zone, into 50% health lost

rich beacon
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Fuck that guy

strong forum
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can not recommend

distant crystal
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nope zone is nothing

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but fuck that third tier

strong forum
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nope zone is massive

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like

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fucking HUGE

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not fun

distant crystal
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πŸ€”

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does it get bigger the higher corruption or something

strong forum
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yes

distant crystal
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didn't seem that crazy for me but i'm only like 23

strong forum
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so does the slow, it gets stronger

waxen cradle
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it might not be that bad but lined up with other unfavorable effects it will crush you

strong forum
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ill show you

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when youre at 60 corruption

exotic spoke
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rude @oblique garnet

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did you island grind?

strong forum
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this is 75 corruption circle

waxen cradle
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lmao

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all the corruptions

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If I had island grinded or did full map clears I have no doubt I could probably swing 75 but screw that noise

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I would rather watch paint dry

strong forum
waxen cradle
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lol

strong forum
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fucking giga kek

waxen cradle
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Working as intended

strong forum
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eh

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its 1rppm

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in aoe its busted yes

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in ST its like 3-4k dps

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and it CAN miss

exotic spoke
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I've ddone maybe an hour of islands

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thats it

strong forum
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since its snake like lines

exotic spoke
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but I have done three days worth of full AP clears

waxen cradle
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Just have not had the time to do full AP grinds I will catch up my neck level this weekend

inland mesa
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I'm 73.9 have 9 paragon boxes still, only did islands to get map and got gold map 😦

exotic spoke
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Turn those 9 in and youre over halfway through 74

inland mesa
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or keep 8 for tuesday and explode πŸ˜„

waxen cradle
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I am also building up all my paragons and going to turn them all in at once

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which all of them are close

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within 2k ish rep I think

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between capping all of them

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True good point

stable atlas
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hey quick flavor of the patch island thunderclap spammer here what wep enchant is the go to?

exotic spoke
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force multiplier

stable atlas
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tyty

waxen cradle
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To be honest given how much AP you can get right now week one of the patch its pretty obvious neck level 80 is going to be a joke to get unless the cost shoots up steeply from 75 to 80 and artifact knowledge will prevent that anyway

astral crystal
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Is there a guide for prot corruption yet?

tame garden
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Lol

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Get infinite stars/echoing void/twilight devastation

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Out damage your dps

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Win

astral crystal
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Yeah figured it was infinite stars

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Wanted to check anyway

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Shit is so broken

tame garden
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No point making any guide til they patch this trash

waxen cradle
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I am just waiting for the fundetection alarms to sound I suspect next week

tame garden
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Is it really fundetection tho

wind garden
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The bananas part is some of these have made it this far

astral crystal
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blizzard playtesting patches or reading feedback ever

shadow wind
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Did kvalues update this week?

tame garden
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No

warm plinth
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Anyone done an Underrot this week?

exotic spoke
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your mom

warm plinth
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WOAH

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I'm just trying to see if the Tides separation before 3rd boss got "fixed" or something because we tried to separate it like we always do on tides week and it came anyway

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Er, like we always do on teeming week

distant crystal
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i did one

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we didn't have a monk

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made the hunter pet tank it while we killed the others :p

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i think this is the week where you ring of peace and then pull the tides solo no?

warm plinth
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Previously we were able to just taunt the deathspeaker and it naturally separated

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You can separate with ring any week I'm pretty sure.

distant crystal
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πŸ€” i've only done it with a monk ringn

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but, it's void week not tides

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they're in slightly different positions

warm plinth
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Yeah I corrected myself; I meant teeming week not tides week

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You can only separate when the extra deathspeaker is there

distant crystal
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but the tides there is in a slightly different spot if it's void week vs tides week, iirc

warm plinth
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Is it?

distant crystal
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maybe it was teeming + tides where you could do that

warm plinth
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Maybe

distant crystal
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ya i think tides week it's a little closer to the boss

warm plinth
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That would make sense then

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My tank did say he thought it wasn't quite in the same spot

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So that's probably it

chilly brook
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On the topic of balance and playtesting, what do you expect when you fire 800+ employees of which QC is the most affected

surreal oak
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what bests traits for war?

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in 8.3

warm plinth
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Same as now

vapid ibex
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cloak 5 to 6, do u need to do a corrupted and a lost objective or just a corrupted?

warm plinth
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Everything this week should just be Thrall

twin lance
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Whats the best race for prot warr for horde? Both in raid and m+. I pressume orc?

warm plinth
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The one that looks the coolest to you

left hatch
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everything this week is not jsut thrall

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the last upgrade is for a corrupted objective

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you DO NOT need to kill thrall for it cause its in the bonus obj chest

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but theres no reason not too, because thrall chest is the one with loot and is a free ton of corrupted momentos

sick sentinel
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Killing the additional objects is recommended

left hatch
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i mean, you need to for the last upgrade this week

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so its not just recommended, its required

sick sentinel
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I'm talking about even first instances

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You should really do both of the additional ones

chilly brook
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So pretty sure Ineffable Truth isn't worth running

left hatch
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low ppm? or does the 30% increased cd rate not make much of a difference with anger management already giving like... 50%natural CD

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cause every time it procs you're getting... what 3 seconds off your cd's across the 10 seconds

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(unless my napkin math is wrong)

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thats less cdr than 1 IP or SB :l

warm plinth
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It’s only 1ppm too.

left hatch
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ouch, yah 100% not worth the corruption then

sick sentinel
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Any theorycrafting being done for 4th minor essence atm?

warm plinth
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Also thanks for the correction on the vision thing Morrison. Thought I had read it was all Thrall this week.

sick sentinel
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Uh same as what you would run alwayw

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always

left hatch
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^ unless you need corruption res

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in which case formless void

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which you can't get till next week

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and np Ghash πŸ‘

sick sentinel
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I know I'm going to use for M+ tho

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Vision major, Lucid, sphere, CNS minors

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Mega haste/vers and avatar build

left hatch
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and once all the damage procs get nerfed into the ground

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you can stack the haste/crit procs

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for even more power

sick sentinel
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60% perm haste when

left hatch
sick sentinel
left hatch
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im def gonna play around with formless, my dps naturally stagger their memebeams

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and its not too shoddy an amount of mainstat and haste so, might be gud

sick sentinel
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formless void with memebeam?

left hatch
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as a minor*

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and just treating it as a shared stat proc for your party

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with right staggering itll be hopefully 50% uptime

analog zinc
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formless great for raid

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70% uptime off yourself alone

sick sentinel
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Is the jetpack in islands suppose topull shit
like do damage on landing

chilly pier
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anyone know if theres a pin for best azerite traits?

undone sun
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not like there's a dozen pins to search through skyhold

chilly pier
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im not seeing a pin about azerite traits

warm plinth
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Then there isn't a pin about best azerite traits πŸ˜„

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However, there is a guide linked in our #268491842637660160 channel that you're welcome to take a look at. It has recommended traits in it.

chilly pier
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thank you πŸ˜„

chilly brook
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Literally 1:58 sivarra fight and it didn't even proc lmao

left hatch
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eww...

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between that and the proc not even being very powerful

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seems like an easy 'cleanse' piece

chilly brook
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not even

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my other pants are higher ilvl lmao

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1 proc on a 3 minute queens court

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2 procs on org but at the end lmao

left hatch
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more room for IS now!

chilly brook
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The sad thing is it would actually be a really compelling corruption for certain classes

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like Vengeance

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but the ppm is wayyyyy too low

left hatch
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in happy news

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IS is only being nerfed 25%

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so itll still probably be best raid corruption for us

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for the lucky ppl that got one already

outer dew
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What are the best azerite traits and talents?

left hatch
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same as last tier check the guide in guides/faq channel

terse dragon
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Is warrior looking bad for raid tank?

sick sentinel
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tank balance is fairly balanced

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It's not "bad" just not world first class

terse dragon
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Gotcha

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I'm just tryna raid in a casual 2 day guild

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and im tryna be their MT, just hoping me being a warrior tank isnt going to affect it too much

left hatch
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war will be solid middle of the pack for raid tanking

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esp for casual guild wont matter

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the only tank thats gonna suffer drastically is BDK

waxen cradle
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The new dailies are continually resetting after the server restarts. Blizzard said its ok to do them, and when it was stated that they reset every time you log out Blizzard went back and said its probably not a good idea to keep doing them. lol

exotic spoke
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They didn’t reset when I logged out so I did them only a second time

candid cove
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I wish I could just get gud and play better with high corruption as a tank. But that eye void zone and little dude just don’t let you.

brittle owl
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have you tried, idk, not using corruption πŸ€”

chilly brook
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^ He's got a point

distant crystal
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ew

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might as well run bloodsport and crystalline carapace

sick sentinel
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bloodsport and crystalline is bis

distant crystal
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your face is bis

sick sentinel
left turret
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Yeah, from now this on i am protection warrior so is zandalari troll good race for tanking in m+ ?

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Or which race is usefull in m+

ionic fern
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BE is always good.

sick sentinel
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Only races that matter are night elf, dwarf, and belf tbh. Other than that just play what looks cool

ionic fern
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Tho as always with races - it does not matter as much as people think.

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LFD for big boy AoE DPS burst.

sick sentinel
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Or just be a chad panda prot warrior

ionic fern
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My enhance is a panda.

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Best ever.

sick sentinel
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I was originally a panda. Then I was an orc. Now I am panda again

ionic fern
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I'm a dworf. 😦 Tho i'm thinking of going fatboy.

sick sentinel
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People really hate to see a panda bootyclapping his way up the dps meter

ionic fern
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People really hate to see a panda bootyclapping his way up the dps meter

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On the bright side, i finally got my legendary cloak yesterday. πŸ˜‚

sick sentinel
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That quest line is awful

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Worst quest line in my recent memory

ionic fern
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Idk, i diddn't pay much attention to it. Ran past the majority of the mobs with Skystep Potion without even touching them.

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πŸ˜‚

sick sentinel
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The flight to burning steppes gave me a seizure

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This is the hordes punishment for burning the tree

ionic fern
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Meanwhile i went to SW and got to Burning Steppes in like a minute.

warm plinth
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You can literally just port to Twilight Highlands from Org and fly there πŸ€”

ionic fern
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SIGHTSEEING

onyx vessel
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Could also not have unlocked it

ionic fern
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Ever heard of it @warm plinth

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Smh

onyx vessel
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Ghash is all about getting shit done

warm plinth
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Yeah, that's why I have Rank 1 CoF

onyx vessel
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Uhh

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How

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Dh main o ye

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Lol

warm plinth
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Yeah

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Don't need CoF on a DH deswind

strong forum
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On the better spec you do

warm plinth
strong forum
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😏

onyx vessel
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Rip cat meme

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Got r4 cof

warm plinth
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Look at you

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Some day I'll be that cool 😦

fringe marten
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LoL..I will never read CoF and not have it be "Cloak of Flames"

left turret
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I though zandalari would be cool race because it has bowsamdi passive defensive racial and kimbul dot damage or krag'wa they all sonunda good

fringe marten
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I really kinda' wanna play mechagnome =\ just looks like a cool dps racial and...it's MECHA-GNOME

sick sentinel
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@warm plinth flying from the dark portal is faster

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My officer raced me

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I took the TH and she went through the dark portal and I lost

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@left turret you use none of those, you use paku

nimble mauve
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I was so excited for Strength of the Warden minor and it appears it is doodoo pepsihands

stoic forge
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none of the minors seem appealing

nimble mauve
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I was hoping for some spice

strong forum
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bfa and appealing stuff

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Choose 1

nimble mauve
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I don't like this

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I don't like this one bit

ionic fern
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Jeah, unfortunately they are pretty mediocre , especially since they can proc when you're already full hp. πŸ˜’

undone sun
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πŸ™ƒ

ionic fern
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Lurker.

undone sun
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always

brittle owl
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ok rickman

oblique garnet
strong forum
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Bruh do I seriously have to push a 20 now, now that we depleted the 19

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After blizz changed their phrasing...

sick sentinel
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Then do a 20?

strong forum
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Bruh i cba we don't have a key

sick sentinel
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lmao

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I have a 22 freehold

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I have to do

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Eudara , tyran and teeming

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void

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Biggest yikes in the world

strong forum
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Would be nice if blizz made a statement,
Today is the last day I can play until 27th

sick sentinel
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Do somebody elses 15 next week then?

strong forum
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Cba doing more than minimum requirement

daring jolt
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@sick sentinel did 21 last night, my dps were literally getting one shotted

strong forum
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Nobody in the guild will get a 15

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If im not there

sick sentinel
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They're going to get one shotted

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You have to line both first boss and second boss

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Fire mage is a must with combust

daring jolt
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Y

sick sentinel
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and they have to have personalities

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errr

daring jolt
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At least

sick sentinel
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personals*

daring jolt
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You can giga pull

sick sentinel
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Ye if you get past first boss πŸ˜†

daring jolt
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Well Eudora was a pain

sick sentinel
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First boss harder than second

daring jolt
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We were lucky on first boss btw. 2 ranged, 1 rogue and healer. He shoots a lots on me

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And rogue is pretty "safe"

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But on second boss the ranged weren't Los every time

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So giga dmg

oblique garnet
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you can safeguard the shots

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even without it intercept works

sick sentinel
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Have to be an elite gamer for that

dense plank
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Guys what d u think about third essecnce for M+ ? and about all 4 essence generally?

sick sentinel
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Vision major, Lucid,sphere and Cns minors

subtle fossil
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Someone has a clue about the new Blizzstatement about the kex degrading additional 4 levels next week? So a 19 is not enough this week?

sick sentinel
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It's 20

subtle fossil
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is it approved now?

ionic fern
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Until they change it again.

mental scarab
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πŸ‘€

graceful aspen
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Hey!
I have been playing prot war since 8.1 and I am finally moving up to some higher m+ keys (18-19 range).
When I was playing KR+19 the other day and battling Shadow of Zul, I got completely CHUNKED. I was using Null dynamo, Health pot, healthstone and all my CD:s. My ignore pain healing was doing sligthly more than 40k hps and our healer was pumping over 90k hps. Still we hade to use 2 BR on me.
The encounter wasnt super long either as our damage dealers were doing 40-60 k single target each.
How do you other prot warriors handle that encounter? Is it able to kite or am I completely using my CD:s wrong?

ionic fern
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It chunks every tank due to its damage pattern.
You pretty much gotta lust it on higher keys and rotate Defensives/externals (DO NOT OVERLAP) and avoid any extra incoming damage like the AoE from the ground.
All of your rage should go into IP.

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If it's too much then there's not much else for you to do other than kite back. Ideally you leap out just for enough for him to follow you - as he gets into casting range and starts casting you move back again a bit to make him cancel his cast and follow you again.

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And repeat.

torn furnace
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I've started farming islands recently, but people expect me to pull the entire island and finish in 3-4 minutes. I have the gear for it, but I still struggle to survive and I feel like it's a combination of azerite traits and essences. Is there anyone spamming islands that can give me some information?

ionic fern
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The biggest issue with pulling big is getting chain CC'ed making it pretty much impossible to survive. if you get hit by 1 Stun or w/e chances are you'll be chain cc'ed to oblivion by other similar mobs.

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Also there are some mobs that put poison etc on you that actually hurts.
Remember to also pick up orbs from dead enemies to regain health etc.

torn furnace
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What essences do you recommend?

ionic fern
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VoP major, Aegis/Lucid/Sphere minors are the go-to for me most of the time. I know that @oblique garnet was farming islands, not sure what he ran.

strong forum
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Anima is usually what I roll for islands

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For that big boi boom

torn furnace
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But is Vision Major actually good? pulls are normally not more than 20 seconds? and I have it up for every pull

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yeh

strong forum
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And just kill half the island in 1 global

ionic fern
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Probably better to run Anima jeah, but i'm too lazy to swap since stuff dies fast regardless.

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πŸ˜‚

torn furnace
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With 2 dps running Iris

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Thank you lads

onyx vessel
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Anima major

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Wtf

ionic fern
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Islands.

onyx vessel
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Ahh big brain

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Pop with last stand for a fat aoe burse

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Seems good

oblique garnet
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anima aegis cns / null

torn furnace
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Ty

empty nacelle
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Just avoid howlers

toxic gyro
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Try to avoid pulling shitty mobs. Mostly stuff like elementals or crabs

tame garden
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Howlers, frost eles, necromancers

empty nacelle
#

And if you find a jet pack, don’t leave the island when you finish and get one of the other guys to queue you up for the next one

toxic gyro
#

What jet pack do?

formal vine
#

Is strenght of the warden rank 1 worth taking as a minor?

tame garden
#

No

formal vine
#

thought so, thx

tame garden
#

If you need the corruption res I guess

#

But its bad

sharp night
#

@ionic fern not every tank, zul tickles on vdh though, don't even need external or lust on high fort

ionic fern
#

High keys
VDH
Pick one.

tame garden
#

Ya but then you have to play vdh

ionic fern
#

Before you go all serious about defending VDH , it was a meme.

sick sentinel
#

Someone say memes

tame garden
#

Mine isnt. Pls defend shear spam spec

strong forum
#

Vdh gud Rampage

sharp night
#

vdh honestly probably best tank by far for any kr and ml key though lol which is kinda weird considering how bad it is in others

strong forum
#

There

sharp night
#

wish blizz would stop trolling me by giving me the good corruptions on characters i barely play though and nothing on any of my actual tanks

tame garden
#

At least u got good corruptions

oblique garnet
#

KR peepostudy

#

not even close

sharp night
#

ya just kinda pointless to get it on a character that i didn't log in for 4 months but just did the quest to get cloak and likely won't log in again for another 3-4

tame garden
#

Fair

#

Shoulda done islands on main instead

strong forum
#

With in mind that you can't skip zul. I'd like to think vdh is very strong for KR

modern brook
#

Vdh gud Rampage

#

fuck that abortion of a spec

strong forum
#

It's a great spec wtf

ionic fern
#

Design/idea wise i like it. Gameplay wise it's horrible tho currently

strong forum
#

Legion vdh was perfect, but it's still fun

wooden radish
#

@ionic fern is warrior really a .5/2 against magic

ionic fern
sick sentinel
#

Imagine knowing multiple classes

tame garden
#

I usually like dratnos but that video was such garbage

wooden radish
#

@ionic fern so i heard you have lucid up in this screenshot. can you show me how much you healed because you were at the leech cap?

ionic fern
#

That's some blurry screenshot

#

πŸ‘€

#

Also

undone sun
#

πŸ‘“

ionic fern
#

This was added specially for you btw @wooden radish

tame garden
#

bonkcat @wooden radish

wooden radish
#

yo why are you bonking a cat

#

ima call PETA

#

:mwahi:

fluid beacon
#

I usually watch dratnos videos. He's a good guy and tries to help the community a lot. But saying shit like the only thing we have against magic damage intake is spell reflect was just wrong. Ever heard of ignore pain? Or utility. Only utility we have is rallying cry and battle shout? Ever heard of safeguard? Safeguard is the only trait that makes some super high keys even possible because your players don't get 1 shot

tame garden
#

He also ranked pally/bear dps at the same level as gluttony vdh

#

Kinda meme

sick sentinel
#

Bear sucks

wooden radish
#

bear is a lot better than he describes

#

he said that bear's interrupt is tied to wild charge

#

which is factually wrong

#

i mean

#

giving VDH a 7/8 against physical is a giant meme

wind garden
#

Should be 8/8

#

😎

sick sentinel
#

Bear

#

Sucks

#

Prot

#

Gooder

tame garden
#

Prot gooder

#

But bear deserves more than 15 points pepsihands

warm plinth
#

The fuck? Bear interrupt hasn’t been tied to Feral Charge (literally not even the same spell) since what, pre-Cata?

left hatch
#

Tbf it is tied to A CHARGE via skull bash, which can be problematic now and then

#

and maybe they just dumb with ability names?

wooden radish
#

@warm plinth Pinky --- he's in Method and you're not. Therefore, he knows more than you.

warm plinth
#

It’s not really problematic though lol. If you’re in melee range, you don’t move at all.

tame garden
#

Yeah skull bash pwns

#

I hate my shit melee interrupt when I play warrior

warm plinth
#

The real MVPs are DH/DK interrupt though. Ranged interrupt without movement πŸ‘

wooden radish
#

avenger's shield

tame garden
#

Ye dh kick is choice

#

Ranged and gives resource

#

10/10

left hatch
#

yah in legion there were a few times where id charge into something in order to interrupt it

warm plinth
#

Well, only problem with shield (not a real problem) is the travel time and being on GCD

ripe maple
#

Avenger’s shield breaks cc if there is someone close cc’ed or pulls one more pack

#

So like 4 problems xd

wooden radish
#

AS ignores CC if the CC was applied before the AS cast

ripe maple
#

Wow, something good for me, now one con less

wooden radish
#

you can also reset AS's cooldown for free

#

unlike other interupts

#

and AS applies a silence preventing future casts

warm plinth
#

Yeah, AS can legit trivialize some bosses singlehandedly with good procs

wooden radish
#

im not sure where this discussion is going but you can't argue that another tank has better interrupts than a paladin

warm plinth
#

Like when I tank on my paladin, my group just waits til I say I need them to kick lol

#

Honestly the only argument we were making was to Dratnos whose dumb ass said druid kick was tied to wild charge

#

The rest was just interrupt discussion

wooden radish
#

ya

#

he said a bunch of shit about bears thats just wrong

#

"bears are weak on the pull"

warm plinth
#

Welcome to pre8.2

ruby nexus
#

I don't like my protpala but pugging (or not very coordinated group) something like shrine on it is just way more relaxing than doing that shit on warrior

warm plinth
#

Yeah it's nice to be able to lock down an attendant by yourself, and having all the extra kicks on 2nd boss is nice

ruby nexus
#

First half of the dungeon is complete shit show of getting trucked by water blasts(?), second boss can go horribly wrong and being warrior isn't even a bonus on 3rd since somebody is always eager to kick when I try to reflect.

tame garden
#

Ye heck pugging shrine tbh

#

Miss me with that

sand egret
#

:bonkcat:

#

Nuuuuuu!

ruby nexus
#

How do I survive Cragmaw this week? Last time I tried it on 'high' tyranical Indigestion and Tantrum just killed us.

sick sentinel
#

Can leap through indigestion

strong forum
#

Indigestion you can out range, just run away as soon as he starts casting, or heroic leap away if you won't make it in time

#

For tantrum you rely on your healer and use of defensive CDs if you're gonna be in danger of dying

tame garden
#

Indigestion killed us wadner

sick sentinel
#

If indigestion kills multiple people, there is a bigger problem than the ability hitting hard

strong forum
#

Well im assuming indigestion was his death, tantrum healer / dps

sand egret
#

had taco bell last night. Indigestion is the true killer.

undone sun
#

hmmm

sick sentinel
tame garden
#

Tantrum you gotta rotate between personals, healer cds, healthpots, etc

#

Make sure something is ready for each tantrum

#

Have a plan

ruby nexus
#

I once tried to leap away from indigestion but ended facing the group with that - and that killed us. πŸ˜…

tame garden
#

Ye you wanna face it away and outrange it

strong forum
#

Well now you know

#

And it won't happen again ;)

#

I did it once in purpose when the boss was like 2% hp and killed healer :3

#

That's always big fun for me

ruby nexus
#

How tight is the timing to outrange it?

strong forum
#

Fairly tight

red dock
#

You just stand at max melee and run straight back?

strong forum
#

So everytime you see the timer approaching, be ready to insta run away

tame garden
#

You gotta watch the timer ye

#

If you wait for the cast you'll prob get hit

#

Unless you leap

strong forum
#

Yup

ruby nexus
#

ok thanks

limpid pawn
#

so do we need a 20 this week for the 15 next week?

#

or is that just wowhead being inaccurate?

sand egret
#

if you start running as the timer starts you should be able to make it out with normal MS

limpid pawn
#

I completed, not in time, a temple of seth 19 yesterday

tame garden
#

You need a 20 this week for a 15 from chest

#

We were bamboozled

hallow phoenix
#

I don't understand why they changed it

#

I did a 20 last week thinking that's all I'd need :(

tame garden
#

Higher scaling increase this season is their reasoning i guess

signal plover
#

They changed it cuz that's what they meant the whole time but English is hard

tame garden
#

But ye it didnt change they are just terrible at communication

hallow phoenix
#

Interns

limpid pawn
#

damn, timing the 19 is tough

tame garden
#

My plan was do a 20 this week for a 16 now I gotta chest it and do a 21 :(

#

Heck void weeks

limpid pawn
#

i did temple of seth, my group had 2 people die to the first boss

#

static shock

#

are they just noobing it up?

hallow phoenix
#

I think all my group has this week is an 18 WM, cause we didn't time the 19 I had

limpid pawn
#

i thought 2k+ players don't die?

tame garden
#

Blame healer

#

Easy out

#

:)

hallow phoenix
#

^

#

Cyclone strike is healable

#

Just tell heals to top them off

limpid pawn
#

it was the static shock that killed them

#

not cyclone

hallow phoenix
#

Oh

limpid pawn
#

the big electric ring coming out of aspix

hallow phoenix
#

That needs a cd at high tyrannical I find

limpid pawn
#

i had a monk healer,

tame garden
#

Gotta kick the jolts that overlap with static

sweet summit
#

rally it

tame garden
#

Person that got conduction needs to personal

#

Healer need to top everyone if possible pre static shock

hallow phoenix
#

Oh I was thinking of conduction I think

#

Which one targets players

#

With an aoe

tame garden
#

Conduction targets

#

Static shock is the ring

hallow phoenix
#

Personals on conduction, even safeguard will work

#

Safeguard actually is really good for stuff like that

#

Rally / healer junk for static shock if people are dying to it

#

Make sure you're using fort scrolls if no priest

warm plinth
#

@red dock Not sure if anyone mentioned this for Tantrum, but he actually stops moving to cast it at about .6 or .7 seconds left on the timer. When the timer hits sub-1 second, just start strafing away from him and you should easily avoid it. Sorry if that was already said. :p

#

Er

#

For Indigestion rather lol

tropic star
#

can just leap it to be safe too yeah/

#

?

red dock
#

Okay, I just remember when I was playing in S2 I used spell reflect to live through it but if I can avoid it thats better.

warm plinth
#

You can but it really isn't necessary. I only leap if I mess up and don't notice it coming lol

#

On high keys it's 100% better because you can completely avoid it

tame garden
#

On a high enough key it will just 1shot you

strong forum
#

^

inland mesa
#

why do they hate us 😦

#

oh and gms basically said tough shit, our quest was broken and you can just catch up next week about the quest bug....then redsigned the quest as I did it on my alt and it's different lol

#

so cloak 5 this week, big sad

chilly brook
#

@inland mesa mine is gonna be 5 this week cuz we failed one but not a big deal tbh cuz you'll be able to catch up next week

tame garden
#

Ye rly doesnt matter

balmy narwhal
#

are we supposed to get a corrupted gear from every vision run?

left hatch
#

you were supposed to get gear that COULD corrupt

#

corruption just has a high (relative to WF) chance

balmy narwhal
#

oh ok

#

but getting a gear was supposed to be 100% gauranteed

#

which we didnt

#

did they fix the bug yet

#

On another topic

left hatch
#

yah i didnt get gear any of my runs either haha

balmy narwhal
#

For pushing 20s this week

#

What essences and trinket would be best? I have vision as major and lucid and nullification dyn

#

I have rank 2 of conflit and strif

#

have the urchin and edicts of faithless

#

are these good or should i focus more dps trinkets?

sweet summit
#

the trinkets are great if you feel like you need them

#

null isnt that huge in m+, as most damage is physical

#

do you have sphere?

limpid pawn
#

vision major, lucid minor, C&s minor

#

most people do that lol

#

urchin + edict for those huge pulls

balmy narwhal
#

even though i have rank 2 C&S?

#

the rest i have rank 3 of them

analog zinc
#

rank 2 is ass

sweet summit
#

CNS has its big powerspike at rank 2

analog zinc
#

its still shit at r2

#

sphere is better

sweet summit
#

rank 2 makes it so that the stacks dont drop out of nowhere, r3 is "only" 4 sockets worth of vers

#

yea id take sphere over cns

analog zinc
#

sphere has basically full effect at r1

sweet summit
#

yea

analog zinc
#

r2 is a duration increase, which only buffs kiting, & r3 is a speed boost

balmy narwhal
#

just to make sure by sphere you mean azeroth undying gift right?

analog zinc
#

no????

#

by sphere I mean sphere

balmy narwhal
#

oops yep my bad lol

warm plinth
#

C&S's power spike is at R3, not R2. R2 is just extended duration. R3 is when you get the extra stacks.

limpid pawn
#

sphere of suppression

#

man essences are stupid

sick sentinel
#

Ghash you sound awfully elite

warm plinth
#

Yeah, nothing worse than a piece of shit player who sounds elite. Sounds about right.

analog zinc
#

C&S gains a lot going from 1-2 & 2-3

balmy narwhal
#

ok so I should choose R3 sphere or R2 C&S

analog zinc
#

because 1 & 2 are both shit

warm plinth
#

I'd use Sphere until you get R3 of C&S

balmy narwhal
#

ok cool

analog zinc
#

sphere is more haste than r2 c&s

sick sentinel
#

Pick the worst essence and assert your dominance over lesser players

warm plinth
#

Yeah sphere is 325 haste, r2 C&S is 275 vers

sick sentinel
#

More stats is GOODER

warm plinth
#

Hawgz would know, he's an elitist jerk

balmy narwhal
#

lol

#

thanks for the advice

warm plinth
#

Guys why in the world do I not have exalted with Voldunai

#

I just wanna level a vulpera this weekend and I got nothin

analog zinc
#

ok furry

chilly brook
#

Ok furry

wooden radish
#

pinky is a big furry

oblique garnet
#

Islands deswind

warm plinth
#

How many islands have you done so far this patch Late?

oblique garnet
#

idk like 400+

wooden radish
#

jesus

inland mesa
#

amateur, real streamers are at like 600

oblique garnet
#

well yeah we dont have flashfires

inland mesa
#

what are you at Late, like 76?

oblique garnet
#

almost 76

#

74 on war

slim pier
#

Does anyone know if they fixed the droprate of items in visions

inland mesa
warm plinth
#

I'm still kicking myself for not stockpiling flashfires, especially since I literally have 50 toons to mail them to

inland mesa
#

what you're 76 and 74?

oblique garnet
#

yeah

warm plinth
#

He probably had double paragons on everything lol

inland mesa
#

that's nuts, do you not work and sleep?

slim pier
#

He doesn't

oblique garnet
#

monk had 0 paragons

slim pier
#

You'd think he won't be 76

#

Due to his name

inland mesa
#

I'm 74/72, but warrior has 11 paragons, monk has 12 to turn in yet

warm plinth
#

I'm not even 72 yet πŸ˜‚

slim pier
#

im 72 but can get 73 asap

#

didn't do a single island though

inland mesa
#

I've earned like 20k honorbound rep so far, I haven't done islands much. I need to as apparently that box is giving mounts away

warm plinth
#

How much are the boxes?

inland mesa
#

175

warm plinth
#

Oh that's not bad

oblique garnet
#

also i do sleep

warm plinth
#

What a liar

#

Late the Liar

inland mesa
#

pics or it didn't happen

warm plinth
#

Nice ring to it

#

tmw someone on the internet asks for pictures of you sleeping

inland mesa
#

XD

#

just leave stream on, ez

warm plinth
#

ngl I left mine on all night last night πŸ˜‚

oblique garnet
#

yeah i saw

inland mesa
#

SEE

oblique garnet
#

Im EU tho

#

So when its night for him its day for me

inland mesa
#

I didn't stream last night as I was angry

warm plinth
#

I streamed a bit this morning doing dailies but that had to be some boring af content

inland mesa
#

blizzard breaking servers during raid, and us wasting almost a whole night on Azshara

warm plinth
#

The writs of the sun king quest blows

inland mesa
#

I have to try to leave work early to do them on at least 1 character before they reset

warm plinth
#

I don't think the dailies reset when the minor assault does though, do they?

inland mesa
#

they did on PTR

warm plinth
#

Interesting

#

Two days in a row of double dailies deswind

inland mesa
#

I didn't get home yesterday soon enough to take advantage of that 😦

warm plinth
#

RIP

oblique garnet
#

ngl not even worth doing the dailies

inland mesa
#

but the rep Late, I needs it

warm plinth
#

The rep grind is too fuckin long

#

Even with dailies it's like 8 weeks to exalted

inland mesa
#

so far I've been keeping up playing smart with the people who have been spamming islands in our guild, I've missed stuff and I'm like 5th on AP atm

left hatch
#

only rep grind that matters is Rajani

warm plinth
#

Why's that

left hatch
#

for that augment rune

warm plinth
#

Oh, yeah that's definitely on my priority list

oblique garnet
#

the dailies give like what 225 rep all together

left hatch
#

otherwise the only dailies really worth it are the ones that give ap, 450 a pop isn't shabby

inland mesa
#

that the....shrine people?

oblique garnet
#

the events give 50

slim pier
#

I've been getting like 20 sec long screenfreezes since 8.3

#

anyone else?

oblique garnet
#

theres 8 events in both zones iirc

left hatch
#

yah thats the Vale rep

warm plinth
#

Rajani is the Vale rep

oblique garnet
#

you get 625 rep daily

#

"worth"

slim pier
#

anyone?

warm plinth
#

Nope

inland mesa
#

not in game dunno

slim pier
#

how do i avoid this

left hatch
#

eh cuts an island run off

unkempt condor
#

are any of the new essences worth it besides the corruption resistance?

slim pier
#

i can't risk getting a screenfreeze in visions

left hatch
#

try scan and repair on wow file?

warm plinth
#

Not really gorg

#

If you don't need the resistance, you'll probably use a pre-8.3 essence

slim pier
#

does that work?

warm plinth
#

But you'll probably need the resistance, tbf

broken isle
#

Besides the resistance ones? Hmm prolly not

left hatch
#

Formless Void is worth mentioning

#

but the other 2 are garbage

inland mesa
#

I need it to wear my Infinite Stars T3 πŸ˜„

warm plinth
#

You got IS T3?

inland mesa
#

yeah lol on a 430 belt

left hatch
#

just rock that 55 corruption like a man

warm plinth
#

Good god

#

Is it only 55? I thought T3 was 75

left hatch
#

-20 from cloak

broken isle
#

Infinite stars tier 3? U might be on the method stream next week

warm plinth
#

Oh, right

inland mesa
#

I don't have cloak 5 or 6 yet, so it makes those void me's run at me, I keep dying

left hatch
#

stun them

#

ez

warm plinth
#

I mean

slim pier
#

does the repair and scan work

warm plinth
#

That damage is worth a death

inland mesa
#

they last longer than the stun

left hatch
#

stun instant despawns them

warm plinth
#

No one else is having the issue Box; they're just suggesting shit to try.

inland mesa
#

no it doesn't

warm plinth
#

Stuns don't despawn them

left hatch
#

huh thats how it was supposed to work

warm plinth
#

Only aggro drops despawn them

left hatch
#

and did on ptr, thats lame

warm plinth
#

Vanish/Feign/Meld

inland mesa
#

I had 3 spawn at once and surround me

broken isle
#

Man I should just race change now

inland mesa
#

just stood there and said, welp that's been fun

oblique garnet
#

Imagine not having infinite stars t3 LUL

slim pier
#

it also says that my driver is not up to date

#

@left hatch

left hatch
#

then update your driver?

inland mesa
#

then hire miss daisy

slim pier
#

how?

broken isle
#

Nice reference

left hatch
#

depends on what gpu you have

#

you can google a step by step guide to it

inland mesa
#

I heard Vin Diesel is available

warm plinth
#

Late are you rocking IS in islands? XD

oblique garnet
#

no im playing my monk

#

my warrior has IS

warm plinth
#

Oh

oblique garnet
#

πŸ™‚

warm plinth
#

RIP

#

But war is bis

#

why you play monk

oblique garnet
#

πŸ™‚

chilly brook
#

Speaking of drivers and GPU's I've been really pleasantly surprised with the AMD software and drivers

warm plinth
#

Says the guy not playing a warrior

inland mesa
#

I had it stacked to 10 the other night, and a multiboxer flew by to pick zin'anthid and it 1 shot one of his characters

warm plinth
#

LOL

#

That's what he gets for trying to loot Zin'anthid in your presence

inland mesa
#

it hits things you aren't in combat with, just randomly picks shit, even friendly mobs

warm plinth
#

Have you checked like...during shroud? I know EV doesn't hit things if you're shrouded

left hatch
#

have they already applied the 25% nerf to it

#

or will that be tuesday

chilly brook
#

Imagine paying for multiple accounts to farm mats with

#

I thought that nerf went in todayb

warm plinth
#

Yeah pretty sure that was a hotfix

inland mesa
#

was doing the invasion on the air ship and it killed a mob at the complete opposite side of the ship

left hatch
#

wasn't sure if it was a hotfix or just announced

inland mesa
#

my monk has the MF add, was still top or 2nd damage most azshara pulls for 5 corruption

#

my goal is to try to get corruption low enough to wear IS on heroic and mythic prog πŸ˜„

warm plinth
#

lol

inland mesa
#

if it's just the eye I think I'll be ok

#

but those run at you things are no joke and take 50% of your life

#

Late, how many groups need to be set up for N'zoth, 2?

oblique garnet
#

N'Zoth?

#

πŸ€”

#

What

inland mesa
#

the last boss o.O

#

I gotta finish all the strat stuff this weekend D:

oblique garnet
#

oh

#

i havent looked at it

inland mesa
#

.>

oblique garnet
#

I dont do strats :d

inland mesa
#

lucky

oblique garnet
#

Also we didnt test all the ptr bosses so no clue about all of nzoth

wooden radish
#

@bleak quiver hi. i'd like to report a casual. @ionic fern only hit 70 on his yesterday and he has an orange name. that's not allowed. plx fix.

ionic fern
#

Who the fuck

#

Did you just ping.

#

πŸ˜‚

wooden radish
#

LOL

#

i didn't realize that someone had that name

ionic fern
#

ROFL

wooden radish
#

it didn't show up

ionic fern
#

Sorry Merek.

inland mesa
#

three cheers for Merek

ionic fern
#

Smh, if roles in this discord were tied to neck levels i'd be the lowest.

#

πŸ˜‚

oblique garnet
#

casuals lul

inland mesa
#

does anyone else have the island vs wq factions in their group? and do they incessantly debate which is the better method?

ionic fern
#

<- tooooo casual.

inland mesa
#

clearly Mr. 70 neck πŸ˜‰

#

what else could you possibly be putting your time into? XD

slim pier
#

ur mom

#

Just kidding

inland mesa
slim pier
#

lmao

ionic fern
#

I'm just pretending to be busy all the time.

#

When someone asks me what i am doing i'm like "Prot TC stuff, you wouldn't understand"..meanwhile watching a TV show.

inland mesa
#

You is pretty good

slim pier
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What show?

ionic fern
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The star wars one, i'm like 4 episodes behind. . πŸ˜’

tame garden
slim pier
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I've stopped at episode 4 long time ago

inland mesa
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mistakes were made

slim pier
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then I got hooked up on another tv show

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o i forgot to watch it

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Fringe

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You should watch it

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IT's pretty great

wooden radish
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@ionic fern did you prep for our podcast?

slim pier
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imagine prepping for a podcast

tame garden
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I cant wait

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For the podcast

wooden radish
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when you need to debate @white hamlet , you better be prepared

oblique garnet
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@wooden radish What podcast !

ionic fern
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Ofc not @wooden radish

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I had it planned for today

oblique garnet
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What is this link

ionic fern
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Screeeeenshot

tame garden
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Lmao love that pumps isnt even in HoW

ionic fern
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Tank essences are so good that almost every tank is using general essences.

wooden radish
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:mwahi:

ionic fern
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😟

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Just rename πŸ˜‚ to :mwahi:

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Ez

inland mesa
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what essences should we use in raid oh sensei Mwahi

oblique garnet
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Crucible

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In 99% of the fights

ionic fern
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Man up

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Do it πŸ’―

inland mesa
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I plan to o.O then probably null, C&S? and some corruption thing so I can use IS Rank 3

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is the 1% a trash pack Late?

oblique garnet
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You can probably cheese some mechanics

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With some other essences

inland mesa
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but my dps 😦

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has sense done his spell reflect guide that he usually does, it's not pin'd

oblique garnet
analog zinc
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no dh on the podcast rip

inland mesa
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wait touch of pain can be blocked and reflected, the hell

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tank notes doesn't recommend essences, big sad

wooden radish
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@gaunt dawn

gaunt dawn
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It will soon

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Made the feature for last tier. So it's only 3 essences wide

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So need to update for fourth and make the page scale properly

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πŸ™‚

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@inland mesa

inland mesa
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Thanks! is it going to be on the side in the content, or where is the feature listed?

gaunt dawn
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Itll be under the talent layout

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I'd show a preview of it but on my phone atm

inland mesa
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gotcha πŸ‘

tame garden
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Panthea op

inland mesa
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Shattered Resolve can be reflected (with Spell Reflection) onto Vexiona dealing damage to her --- does it still hit everyone else, or just Vexiona then?

exotic spoke
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Sup prot qtpies

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Also, I know some of those people in @wooden radish screenshot

wooden radish
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what screenshot

tame garden
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The podcast announcement

ionic fern
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No you don't @exotic spoke

warm plinth
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Shhh @exotic spoke

wooden radish
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@exotic spoke

exotic spoke
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Awww people like me so much they’re pinging me πŸ™‚

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❀️

analog zinc
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@inland mesa pretty sure it just redirects a tick onto her

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idk if that'll put an infinite dot on her

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if so that's busted

exotic spoke
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Hi Speg

tame garden
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@exotic spoke ❀️

warm plinth
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If it does, it won't for long!

inland mesa
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just wasn't sure if it mitigated the raid damage too

exotic spoke
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What to do....

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Ghash go get a bounty in WM and let me kill you

ionic fern
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πŸ‘€

exotic spoke
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Y’all should be looting a bounty every day btw

tame garden
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Easy for you to say, you're ally

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I never see alliance with bounty

wooden radish
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thats cuz you never see alliance in warmode :kekw:

warm plinth
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Imagine thinking I can get bounty

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Why do I want to loot one every day anyway

wooden radish
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i manged to get the 10/10 bounties for the achievement done.

distant crystal
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bounties give coallescing visions

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100 i think?

warm plinth
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Ah

wooden radish
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ya Pinky

analog zinc
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a guildie did the lesser vision for an hour

warm plinth
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Why do I always get slightly offended when you call me Pinky

analog zinc
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1.9k CVs, 560 mementos

warm plinth
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Like you're saying it to insult me or something πŸ˜‚

wooden radish
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would you rather be called by the D word

chilly brook
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Hi Pinky

warm plinth
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Idk how people ar emanaging to stay in for an hour tbh. I think the longest I've managed to last is 20-30 minutes

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Wait, what's the D word lol

chilly brook
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Idk why you'd want to stay for an hour lmao

warm plinth
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Farm mementos

tame garden
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I go in do the quest and leave

analog zinc
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today is a good day for it

chilly brook
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Yea but like

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That's boring

analog zinc
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its the cleanse pandaren daily

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meaning ez sanity gain

warm plinth
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Actually you know

empty nacelle
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you go in as a group, and farm it like you farmed spare parts in mechagon

warm plinth
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Now that you mention the daily, I'm pretty sure I didn't complete it today πŸ˜‚

empty nacelle
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so you pull shit to a central location and just nuke

chilly brook
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I did it yesterday @empty nacelle still boring

warm plinth
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I was so concentrated on farming mementos that I forgot to go back and click the pandas

wooden radish
empty nacelle
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i mean its not about being exciting

warm plinth
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Is Lincoln doxxing me right now?

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I need an adult

wooden radish
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dude

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its on your twitter page

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you doxxed yourself

tame garden
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πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

inland mesa
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point Lincoln

tame garden
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Classic pinky

chilly brook
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At some point if something fails to be fun in a game I wouldn't encourage doing it for hours

warm plinth
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I'm just kidding πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

tame garden
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❀️

inland mesa
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there are no jokes in this channel like there are no bugs in WoW ok?

empty nacelle
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@chilly brook i can appreciate that sentiment, but we both know that's not how a large amount of modern gaming culture is

chilly brook
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The question is how beneficial is that actually

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I guess if you're just going for sockets?

inland mesa
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backpack for life

tiny jolt
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hi guys
which essences are the best as prot in 8.3?

ionic fern
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Best for what? @tiny jolt

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In general nothing has changed. Only thing to note is that for the corruption resistance you preferably want the Formless Void minor essence out of the 3.