protection

[sleek bridge]

so worth it to swap to transf then?

[left hatch]

100%

[sleek bridge]

or at this point wait to see what I get in 8.3? haha

[left hatch]

go ahead and swap, itll help you going into 8.3 more than BS will

[sleek bridge]

Groovy

thanks (again!)

[left hatch]

np

[sleek bridge]

kinda funny, I came back to the game for Classic, but playing warrior on Classic just made me want to play my old main again. Been having a blast with it and Prot is really fun now

[left hatch]

i coudln't get into classic, leveled a rogue to 40range

but its SO SLOW compared to modren wow

but yah i agree prot is super fun in BFA

[broken isle]

its fun when people interrupt magic dmg

[left hatch]

but thats every tank

[broken isle]

is it?

[left hatch]

if you ignore Water Bolt or Salt Spray anyone is gonna get rekt by it

[broken isle]

i mean i nvr expect pugs to interrupt that stuff lol

[left hatch]

i just don't pug haha

its always a shitshow

[broken isle]

ur a lucky duck

yea it feels like I have to take null barrier and kite a lot in pugs

[left hatch]

mmm null barrier's value in M+ is kinda misleading

[broken isle]

its not when no1 interrupts lol

[left hatch]

even then

like a magic absorb seems good on paper

but the crazy amount of verse you get from CnS/Aegis or even lucid

oftentimes becomes more and more valuable

[broken isle]

i tend to go VoP/CnS/aegis mostly

[left hatch]

and since verse is % DR it increases in value the higher up you go

where null's absorb is flat

like hte only place Null relaly shines outside raid is like high tyranical ML

and even then just for last 2 bosses

[analog zinc]

null does big damage

[broken isle]

hmm i see ur reasoning

[left hatch]

if its proccing consistently

its like 2k dps if you proc it on cd

[analog zinc]

good on griev

griev procs it

no?

[left hatch]

which is super rare in keys

[broken isle]

I feel like paper mache in shrine & KR

[left hatch]

i think griev is a physical bleed

not magic

[broken isle]

those casters are out for blood

[left hatch]

bursting is the magic dot

[analog zinc]

bursting is shadow

[left hatch]

and even then the play there is edicts in magic setting

[analog zinc]

just stand in sang for a tick 🙂

[broken isle]

i dont have edicts 😦

funny enuf some1 mentioned that too last nite

[analog zinc]

i wouldn't bother with magic edict except in ML for last 2 bosses

[left hatch]

there and bursting

if your healer is struggling and you still wanna mondo pull

but yah in M+ even with damages that have a dumb amount of spooky casters

like shrine and KR

the damage profile is still heavily physical

and Null doesn't consistently pop for the dmg, nor provide as much overall benefit for the magic reduc

[analog zinc]

your physical edict will always increase

whereas your magic edict may reset

[left hatch]

the only thing that resets it is manually changing it no?

at least on bursting it pretty consistently is consumed

[analog zinc]

nope

if you fail to consume it it resets to 0 stacks

[left hatch]

yah so on bursting it can stay stacked if you play around it which is nice

but im just not huge into edicts in general

[analog zinc]

i would never take magic edict for bursting

[left hatch]

and back to the original issue

i was a diehard Rumbling Earth player

swapped to stormbolt maybe a month ago

and havn't looked back

its SUPER nice to have an additional interrupt

esp if yo'ure running with lazy/braindead dps

also remember your intimidate shout can be used as a panic interrupt

same way a monks para can be

[analog zinc]

i ran rumbling all of s2 on my war alt

when i picked the char back up in s3 i used stormbolt

[left hatch]

^ rumbling still good

and def has value in places like AD for the saurids and shieldy guys

but fuck man, an on the spot st stun is too good

for oh shit moments

effectively gives you 4 interrupts (5 if you count SR)

[analog zinc]

those are usually called 'stops'

[sweet summit]

disrupts

[left hatch]

never heard that terminology

but ok

disrupts iv heard

CC iv heard

never stops

[analog zinc]

that too

basically call them whatever but they're not really interupts

[left hatch]

why i said effectively

[analog zinc]

i call em stops because that's what I heard first

[left hatch]

it also includes stuff like RoP and typhoon

but those can actually have more value depending on the situation

since some mobs are special and are otherwise CC resistant

like the beefy tossy guys in early Freehold

too early to remember their name rn

[analog zinc]

true but there are some mobs that will recast if you knock them

[left hatch]

yeh

[brittle owl]

just kill them before they recast

kapp

[left hatch]

still can buy you some time, and theres some things that its fantastic for, like stopping the raptor cleave in KR (it just turns off their AI for the time they would be channeling)

or panic stopping the puking maggots in UR

almost every piece of utility in the game has some use or another in M+

[analog zinc]

basically

[left hatch]

and im only saying 'almost' cause I can't think of any and if i said "all utility" someone would come out with "UMM ACTUALLY Mages uselss spell is 100% useless"

[exotic spoke]

Meh, I’ve called it interrupts Morrison.

[left hatch]

in the case we were talking about it functions as an interrupt

but they right about it being disrupts

[exotic spoke]

Yup, I’m just saying I heard it called interrupts, cc. Cancels. Not stops though. /shrug

[left hatch]

at this point you cant even use spell locking as a way to define something being an interrupt

cause theres tons of mobs offhand that just don't get school locked

or even spell locked anymore

Iv heard it colloquially called kicks too

[exotic spoke]

Yup

[left hatch]

just for anything that stops the bad thing happening in the moment lol

[exotic spoke]

Pretty much!

[civic rapids]

`does anyone have a weakaura that tracks when revenge is free/costs no rage?

[left hatch]

1s

[sick sentinel]

No but it's easy to make

[left hatch]

i gotchu

[civic rapids]

ty

[left hatch]

i can't find the one i use without it being bundled with 50 others things so imma just DM you the paste

has a decent visual and makes a noise when it procs

[analog zinc]

there's already a default visual when revenge procs

& your button glows

[left hatch]

^ this too

[civic rapids]

am looking for something smaller/differant than the default

[left hatch]

well you can resize that to fit your mood, but if you want something thats just the icon showing up you can make that yourself ez pz

[civic rapids]

what u sent was great thanks 🙂

[left hatch]

np

[marble cipher]

If not raiding, is it worth to level BS for the two 470 crafts you think?

[analog zinc]

do you want to push high keys at the start of the patch?

crafted gear gets outclassed the farther you are in the patch, you only really run it for a high level piece of gear early on

[exotic spoke]

I think it is shinigami. Because you can reroll to get the stats you want. You never know when you’ll get the belt / pants from your mythic cache

It’s guaranteed versus what may or may not happened

[fading relic]

Having a known good piece with no corruption is pretty good considering u can only have so much, especially early on

[broken isle]

Socket too

[exotic spoke]

I’d recommend doing professions 🙂

[random urchin]

2 known socketed pieces is pretty good.

[exotic spoke]

But, then again, I did stock up on osmenite ore and expulsom. And I’m still transmuting more expulsom every day

[marble cipher]

Hm, might drop my alch for it then

[spiral ravine]

Hey guys, i was wondering which trinket combination would suit best for m+ (from +15-+20), my trinkets are: 430 Rezan w/ socket, 430 block, 455 Briny Barnacle, 430 Urchin w/ socket, 430 Edicts.

[exotic spoke]

Hi @spiral ravine it’s hard to say for all cases imo. As a baseline I’d say urchin and either block or rezans. If you feel like you need some more defensives I’d go urchin and edicts. If you don’t, then go block / rezans

[analog zinc]

you'd go rezan & block over a 455 briny?

[exotic spoke]

My trinkets tend to fluctuate. Between urchin, rezan, inkpod, block, howler, and some others

I don’t remember what briny does off hand but I love haste and crit.

[spiral ravine]

Alright, that's what i've been running on my last runs, but i had that little doubt bc of the 455 briny, tbh i dont really like the trinket but since it's 455 i was hesitant

[analog zinc]

strength + a damage proc

damage proc spreads when mobs die

[exotic spoke]

Yeah, I’d take them over a briny. Purely because the rezans and block both offer defensive aspects as well as offensive.

[exotic spoke]

Yeah I stand by my statement

[spiral ravine]

thanks @exotic spoke !

[exotic spoke]

You’re welcome

[inland mesa]

How much Osemite and expulsom does it take to make belt and pants

[exotic spoke]

Can’t remember. I think it’s like 300 osmenite per highest Ilvl craft and maybe 50 expulsom?

[ripe maple]

Highest and pre-highest pants - 700, belt - 500

About expulsom idk

[left hatch]

irrc briny isn't nearly as good as it seems in multi target

its ok as a ST dps trink but

even then far outscaled by dribblepod or even phial

[exotic spoke]

475 is mythic Ilvl right?

[raw pier]

is phial good?

[left hatch]

phial is ok

its decent at aoe dps

its pretty gud at strictly st because of the ramp up

but theres far better in both cases

and yah 475 is mythic

unless you talking Nzoth then its 485

[exotic spoke]

470 belt is 300 osmenite and 50 expulsom
470 pants are 400 osmenite and 60 expulso

[simple salmon]

Fellow prots, one question regarding the bleed of the berserkers in kings rest: if I apply demo shout while I have the bleed does it reduce the bleed dmg? Or do I need to shout before the bleed is applied to me? If the ladder, does it also need to last the entire bleed?

[left hatch]

afaik boss dots snapshot

so you have to demo before application

[simple salmon]

But it doesn’t need to last the entire bleed?

[left hatch]

if im correct about the snapshot yeh

[junior ivy]

hi

[simple salmon]

Okay will take it as that then, thanks!!

[left hatch]

the 15% reduction will last the entire bleed

o/ catfriend

[exotic spoke]

Hi catfriend

[mystic whale]

what's all this talk about the K value ? Will it do a huge difference ?

[exotic spoke]

It takes a total of 1525 osmenite to make one of each - pants and belt - at all three tiers

You get some expulsom back as you scrap but if you don’t 235 expulsom

[junior ivy]

i hate being back to school. one of my classes sucks

[left hatch]

K value is a hidden factor wow's always done to make content scale properly as tiers progress

at its core it devalues current armor/Active mitigation values

so stuff is hard again

[exotic spoke]

@mystic whale k value goes up every single tier. It’ll hurt at first, just like it always does, but once you get a new shield of equivalent difficulty you’ll notice it’s back to what it was (basically$

[left hatch]

its something wow's always done

and not something to worry about because well get back to basically where we are now once you gear up

[mystic whale]

I see

are warriors hit harder with this because of the whole block thing ?

[left hatch]

no

every tank is hit by it

stagger is directly impacted by it

and since the majority of Bear/DH/DK's active mitigation is armor based its still effected by K value

if you hear ppl freaking out about 'k value nerfs' or 'xyz tank is now unplayable because k values D:'

ignore them

its just the way to scale back EVERY tank to roughly where we are at the start of every tier

so gaining ilvl (in terms of armor and block) matters again

(the reason it seems war and pally is hit harder is simply because having a good shield is such an integral part of our survivability, it has nothing to do with K value itself and everything to do with how important block stat is)

[sand egret]

and a good shield gives you a buttload of armor 🙂

[mental scarab]

Kraken shoulders now 😐..... in the last week of this season

My first MS

[left hatch]

why im just gonna roll once each slot for the ilvl

and then hard buy

raid has some pretty nice substitutes since everything is BoM

and iv fallen down the hole of gambling for no payout 2 seasons now

[mental scarab]

Same

[distant crystal]

gamble 4 lyfe

i bought like 11 shoulders on my priest without getting the 1 good ones, yolo

[mental scarab]

😂

[distant crystal]

otoh

[mental scarab]

😐

The haste

Is

Real

[exotic spoke]

Do you abyssal @distant crystal or the one from raid

[distant crystal]

raid sadly

[exotic spoke]

Scrub

[distant crystal]

UF instead of OP :*(

[exotic spoke]

Double MS double OP

[left hatch]

now with EV being mega nerfed

looking forward to that Double MS double OP with a few % haste buffs

TC every gcd dream

its coming bois

[warm plinth]

Is OP still gonna be the go-to? It's getting nerfed right?

I didn't read details on how bad though

[left hatch]

its ppm instead of rppm

so its a bit of a ding

but the only thing i could concievably see as better is UF

[junior igloo]

Global cooldown scales just as fast with haste as TC/SS cooldowns do up until 100 % haste.
You haste would need to be way above 100 % for your "rotation" to change

[left hatch]

right

[warm plinth]

Oh they took the haste scaling away

[left hatch]

which can happen in Temple already

with the last boss

its not inconceivable with 2 MS 2 OP, and a few stacks of multiplicative corruption pieces

not to mention rezans + wrathion trinket

that wed be able to hit that poin in hero windows

[warm plinth]

I thought corruption pieces were additive

[left hatch]

everything iv seen calls it multiplicative

i fully expect us to hit ToS final boss levels of haste if you fully gear for it

by end of xpac

(especially since the % haste increase also boosts hero)

[tame garden]

:0

[distant crystal]

the %haste is rating only

but...higher rating does boost hero in a way

[warm plinth]

Yeah it shouldn't boost hero 🤔

[undone sun]

its ppm instead of rppm
what

[distant crystal]

it's rppm instead of hasted rppm :p

[left hatch]

its being changed from rppm (scales of haste) to ppm

[warm plinth]

Not all RPPM scales with haste. That doesn't make it PPM

[undone sun]

^

RPPM took over PPM in MoP

[left hatch]

ah mb been using PPM as non haste sacling rppm

[distant crystal]

i used to be really haste obsessed when i played rsham in wrath

having more haste rating makes hero/lust a bigger cast time gain, it's weird

[junior igloo]

Getting to the haste soft cap is not impossible, some classes (holy paladins with HA + Hero) get there now.
The more interesting question is whether you should try to get there and I'm inclined to say no.
The value of haste above 100 % is not nothing, but it's diminished quite a bit, making all other secondary stats stronger at that point.

[left hatch]

idk i could see a purpose of it

in M+ for massive AOE

[distant crystal]

yeah once you've got the .75sec gcd

it drops a lot

[warm plinth]

Not only that but fuck how terrible would it feel to play? I have issues at high haste now with using certain abilities, especially on ToS last boss

[left hatch]

but itll def be a super meme build to get that high

[undone sun]

feelings 😡

IRRELEVANT

[warm plinth]

No but like

I mean it has issues casting shit at high haste

Which would be bad

[distant crystal]

FACTS OVER FEELS amirite

[exotic spoke]

Getting to 140% haste with all profs rolling feels good though

[undone sun]

yeah

[exotic spoke]

From a bragging stand point

[distant crystal]

you can tweak that spell window shit

[warm plinth]

It's not a spell window shit

Sometimes you literally can spam an ability for 5 seconds and nothing happens

[distant crystal]

yeah that's spell window shit

lol

[warm plinth]

It even does the sound effect

[distant crystal]

spriests deal with it often

[junior igloo]

It feels like you are really blasting, but you would actually do more damage with 100 % haste and a bunch of crit/versa instead of 140 % haste 🙂

[distant crystal]

with high VF stacks

[warm plinth]

I don't see how that would be spell window shit

[exotic spoke]

MS, OP, force multiplier, Drums, and go

[left hatch]

probably

[distant crystal]

that's the fix generally

[left hatch]

or whichever weapon proc isn't nerfed into the fucking ground

[warm plinth]

If I press a button, it should cast. Spell queue shouldn't have anything to do with it

[exotic spoke]

@junior igloo yeah, but I can’t do that. It’s not reliable to get to 140% either as it is a ton of procs and drums

[distant crystal]

shouldn't but it does

[exotic spoke]

I don’t play for the maximums there. Having the multiple haste procs is better so that it’s more likely something is going on

[distant crystal]

voidbolts would routinely not fire off because of it

[exotic spoke]

But, I’m also less concerned about the damage and more concerned about the benefits to shield block recharge

[left hatch]

at what % haste can you have 100% uptime

[exotic spoke]

Not sure off hand

[warm plinth]

Hmm, idk if my problem is the same then, because it happens with Blade Dance/Death Sweep a lot, which has a 3 or 4 second CD

[undone sun]

of what

oh sb

[left hatch]

SB

[undone sun]

it's a lot

[warm plinth]

Like I can literally spam Blade Dance and it will do the sound effect like it's casting but takes like 5 presses to actually go off. That's super fucked if that's spellqueue somehow

[left hatch]

be interesting to see if its possible to hit that with corruption and procs

[distant crystal]

that's pretty much the behavior that spriests see yea

[undone sun]

though probably reasonably less with Bolster

[left hatch]

not optimal but interesting

[exotic spoke]

Probably not consistently - but probably with all procs

Rezans, MS. oP, Force multiplier

[left hatch]

yah theres def gonna be some 'planets align' shit where you feel like you're in hero

[undone sun]

[exotic spoke]

Yeah, that’s when I saw like 140%haste

[left hatch]

im really digging the prospect of corruption in place of TF

actualy exciting options and builds now

instead of ilvl lottery

[distant crystal]

@warm plinth just give it a whirl, drop your spellqueue by like 10-20ms at a time and see if it feels better

[junior igloo]

You need 166 % haste to achieve 100 % Shield Block uptime. @left hatch

[left hatch]

hoping it functions and community digs it so they bring it into 9.0

[tame garden]

Corruption lottery

[left hatch]

corruption lottery easier than ilvl/socket lottery tho

[exotic spoke]

I have a couple thoughts about specific corruptions.... it’ll be interesting

[distant crystal]

i think i'm gonna let fate decide my raid main next tier

whoever gets the best corrupted piece from the M+ cache

[exotic spoke]

Prot warrior - no balls you won’t

[distant crystal]

= new main

[left hatch]

is there anything diffinitive about the new damage corruption thing to hunt for

now EV is meh

[distant crystal]

they buffed the shit out of all the others

[analog swift]

Which is awesome

[distant crystal]

and EV will still be pretty strong imo, just not ridiculously busted

[left hatch]

they didn't buff the dragons breath ):

[analog swift]

Hello riki

[undone sun]

who

[exotic spoke]

A couple look interesting but I’ll wait on those - just planning to hoard any corrupted items for now and evaluate later since I’ll need defensives at first

[analog swift]

^^^

[exotic spoke]

Hi theseus

I’m NotRiki now

[analog swift]

Sorry

[tame garden]

Isnt the infinite stars one

[exotic spoke]

Some assclown on Sargeras has my name on like a level 56 priest and I can’t get it

[tame garden]

Giga ahead of everything else

[distant crystal]

#off-topic

https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/emr0g7/manager_put_my_day_off_work_in_his_calendar/

[analog swift]

Btw I was reading about how K values don’t effect DK so should I reroll from prot warrior ?

[left hatch]

🗞️

[exotic spoke]

Obv /s

[undone sun]

why did you hot link OT and also post the link waat

[distant crystal]

what a truly awful crop job

[undone sun]

smh

also nice preview

[distant crystal]

[undone sun]

https://i.imgur.com/urEQqGn.png smh

[distant crystal]

same tbh

[sick sentinel]

Is it worth getting 1x Bloodsport for M+ (high keys) (other traits are 3xBM 1x(Tclap) 1x(BFI) (Opposite would be 2x BFI)

[left hatch]

no

bloodsport is bad

full stop

[sick sentinel]

excuse me

bloodsport is not bad

it just... isn't good

[left hatch]

ok comparably to all but 1 other prot trait

and a GOOD number of generic traits

its bad

[sick sentinel]

compared to them... it isn't as good

positive energy only here

[left hatch]

but yah esp with BFI being the other option

bfi is really strong

even in M+

[sick sentinel]

yes BFI is a much better option

[left hatch]

every aspect of it stacks, so you can really pump on bosses

and itll give you a sizeble chunk to DR in aoe if you weave in the occasional SS as you TC away

[sick sentinel]

@exotic spoke I did some ptr stuff myself

idk if its worth it going for 50 momentos first try

[exotic spoke]

Solo or group!

?*

[sick sentinel]

like how much will (5% more damage/5% DR) or 50 more sanity will give you

solo

[exotic spoke]

It was also when it was 100 more sanity

[sick sentinel]

it's possible definitely

[exotic spoke]

That they recently nerfed

[sick sentinel]

but not worth the risk IMO

[exotic spoke]

And also, was assuming group

[sick sentinel]

do you know what our option B is?

[exotic spoke]

One person would go in and suicide - clicking on objectives while the rest of the group kills the boss

[sick sentinel]

we form 4 man groups and you send 2 people in each group to do everything on their main alt

[exotic spoke]

Option B? You can farm corrupted mementos very slowly after you do the first horrific vision

That’s not bad

[sick sentinel]

so you have 2 people with upgrades on alts and 2 people on mains

[exotic spoke]

Except they need a key too. Each person needs a key. If they do everything they don’t have keys 😦

But they could do one or two runs to get a head start and then swap

[sick sentinel]

you can do 2 runs

[exotic spoke]

And repeat and do the last couple runs as a full group with extra benefit

[sick sentinel]

2 runs will unlock main upgrade and 1 node

[exotic spoke]

Yup

[warm plinth]

My line of thinking was have our tank/healer go to the boss in the first one, and the DPS go to one of the tainted areas and do shit. That way the tank/heals can get a feel for how long the boss is gonna take so we can head that way when necessary

[sick sentinel]

and then you do 2 like that

[exotic spoke]

I think there’s a better option though Kaege

[sick sentinel]

and then you use the mains that did 2 runs to do them with the poeple that used their alts

[exotic spoke]

Do one, if in a group 1 person suicides to get to 50

Then don’t do any more until Sunday / Monday - farm corrupted mementos from things in the regular world

Get enough for another talent or two

I dislike where they put the chest talent now

[lucid dew]

so it looks like we wont be able to do conquest next week for conflict and strife chest then?

seems like arena ends

[red glen]

hey can i get the hidden artifact now ? and if i can i need to read the tablet every time and wear the artifact ?

i mean legion hidden artifact

the tsmog

[warm plinth]

Yes, no, and no

You literally just go to the cave once per day after reset. You either get the emote in chat or you don't.

If you do, you go into the cave and find it in one of the treasure piles

[red glen]

how many chance i got to get it ?\

[warm plinth]

You get one chance per day

[red glen]

drop chance i mean

[warm plinth]

There is no drop chance

If you get the emote, you get the appearance

How long it takes to get the emote varies. It's pure RNG

[red glen]

okey ty soo much

[warm plinth]

Took me 2 months, had a guy in here for a while who took like 3+ months. Others have gotten it very quickly. All you can do is go to the cave every day

[red glen]

okey ty ty ty 😄

[toxic wadi]

is it possible to do a +10 with no prot azerite traits?

smoothly

[frosty holly]

depends on your ilvl i guess

[warm plinth]

Depends on your group

[autumn pendant]

Def depends on rest of group

People timed dungeons with no tanks

[frosty holly]

Ye but then the 5th player was probably also geared

[autumn pendant]

5 moonkins timed fh 10 or 11?

[toxic wadi]

lol

[frosty holly]

And did they have gear? Probably 😛

[autumn pendant]

But 4 geared eople can carry hla lot

We said it depends on group

[frosty holly]

And i said ilvl plays a part. And it does no matter the group

[autumn pendant]

His only question was if its possible to do +10 with no prot traits

Which it def is

[toxic wadi]

oh ok

cool

im ilevel 437

[autumn pendant]

Ilvl is part of that group condition tbh

[toxic wadi]

im guessing traits really matter after 15+?

[warm plinth]

Traits matter at every level. But the higher you go, the more you're going to notice that you're being dumb using traits for another spec :p

[wooden radish]

@warm plinth what's up Pinky

[warm plinth]

Hi Lincoln

[wheat bronze]

I have a question about Nullification Dynamo. My absorb is only 33.3k, while my monk's is 39.7k My warrior has more vers than the monk as well. What can cause the absorb amount to be higher on the monk?

[wooden radish]

https://tenor.com/view/pinky-pinky-and-the-brain-gif-8691624

[warm plinth]

Neck level

[wheat bronze]

Both 70

[wooden radish]

Null is affected by CF for Monk

[wheat bronze]

Thought CF was only crit heals

[warm plinth]

Wait, is it really? 😂

[wooden radish]

they passively get more from absorbs

nope

absorbs too

same with Druid Mastery

[warm plinth]

That's funny

[tame garden]

🙂

[warm plinth]

You know that's not where that name comes from right Lincoln lol

[wooden radish]

https://tenor.com/view/what-are-you-talking-about-gif-5801412

[wheat bronze]

Yeah, that makes sense

Thanks

[warm plinth]

It's from MPF. When I joined, I was being an idiot and insisted on a hot pink name color (for no reason at all). Eventually won the color in a contest, and then to continue the meme changed my nickname to Pinky. And here we are.

[wooden radish]

MPF?

[warm plinth]

Mythic Plus Friends

[wooden radish]

oh

[wheat bronze]

Hmm, so if it was purely CF, you'd expect the monk's Null absorb to vary in size

[wooden radish]

depends on crit chance so sure

[wheat bronze]

It's still a consistent amount

[daring bay]

I rememebr there was a spread sheet pinned with all SRable abilties in Dungeons, where did it go?

[warm plinth]

#268491842637660160

[daring bay]

There it is, ty fam

[toxic wadi]

fastest way to get a 400+ ilvl shield?

[sleek bridge]

first week of conquest gets you a 410, you can pick a shield 😄

if you've already done that... well... there's a new season in a few weeks

[toxic wadi]

oh ok cool

[lucid dew]

Will we still be able to conquest cap next week for conflict and strife?

I’m one week away

Or do I have to get my rating back up

[warm plinth]

Hard to say. I could see it going either way.

[sick sentinel]

My understanding is no. But I have been wrong before

[lucid dew]

The blue post made it seem like I wouldn’t be able to. Fuck me

[sick sentinel]

Ya really hate to see it

[slender nova]

anywhere I can get guaranteed 400+ azerite bits with BoM quickly?

[sick sentinel]

playing the game

[lucid dew]

So much rated PvP to do. Like all my guys only have rank 2 CNS

[ionic fern]

@slender nova probably raid is your best bet tho the BoM pieces come a bit later down the bosses.

[analog swift]

idk

the blue post said you would get season 3 rewards yeah?

For the 21st, "mythic Keystone and PvP chests that are opened this week reflect Season 3 rewards earned the prior week,"

[surreal oak]

versa >>>440
mastery

our

critic
versa 430 + socket

[warm plinth]

What slot is it xis

[mortal brook]

wrists looks like

@ionic fern what's the scale on leech corruption effects to the post-80 corruption extra dmg taken? super worth to stack? can i get a graph?

[sick sentinel]

rolls out of bed

puts on leech t shirt

[warm plinth]

God damnit Hawgz

[sick sentinel]

you guys drive the boat

im just a pirate

[ionic fern]

Why is this the last ping i see right before i go to bed

SMh @mortal brook

[slim pier]

did you expect a hot chick to ping you/

[left hatch]

@wheat bronze its consistent with CF because of how CF works with absorbs, instead of it being a chance to 'crit absorb' like with heals, it passively increases all absorbs by your crit %

so itll always be that size outside of verse/crit procs

[surreal oak]

@warm plinth what?

[left hatch]

like what armor slot is it

pants/gloves/boots etc

[sick sentinel]

for snapping saurids

what's the best way to do it with sanguine?

We do two packs but whenever I leave it because of sanguine it one shots people

[warm plinth]

Carefully

[sick sentinel]

even with like 3

Do I just sit in sanguine for a second?

as it's delayed

[near ivy]

try to kill them all evenly

even if that means stopping dps until you have them gathered

[strong forum]

jump out as soon as stuff starts dying imo

[warm plinth]

That's what I would do as well

Standing in sanguine seems like a very not good idea

[left hatch]

especially since they'll likely just heal up anyway

[dark marlin]

do u guys think never surrender will be used in the next raid over bolster?\

[left hatch]

unless they're SUPER close to death and you can kill before the first tick

no, never

never surrender is a garbage talent

[dark marlin]

iam concerned of the amount of magic damage etc

[strong forum]

first of all

magic dmg has been nerfed

second of all

NS is beyond shit

[left hatch]

physical damage will ALWYS be a major component of every boss fight

[strong forum]

3rd of all its not going to be more magic dmg than physical dmg

[left hatch]

we havn't seen something thats exclusively magic since star auger

[dark marlin]

sweet as ty

[strong forum]

4th of all NS gets only 50% boost if youre already 50% aka a 30-40k bigger IP when youre already half HP

that in itself is so bad

[left hatch]

so the lower cd of LS ends up being a more reliable method of dealing with magic damage anyway

since the full benefit of NS comes when you're already dead

and if you at 1% a double sized IP won't save you lol

[dark marlin]

u guys bother hearthin in ML on tyrannical? after second boss?

[strong forum]

never heard or seen anyone ACTUALLY do it

[left hatch]

iv heard of people on hear talkign about it in like 20+'s but only if other dps in their group are already swapping to ST talents for it

so theyd be waiting around anyway

[dark marlin]

ive done 2 times and felt squishy af with it

[left hatch]

its because its not a good talent haha

[strong forum]

also Narrian, a high key ML is 10x more tank dmg than any normal raid scenario

just saying

in no raid scenario will you need 60k+ permanent hps on your tank

[dark marlin]

❤️

[exotic spoke]

@strong forum I did it once

Hearth out after second boss. But 3 other members in my group where to swap to pure single target builds since we had 100% trash

[left hatch]

probably the exact person/situation i remember someone talking about lmfao

the one time in history its happened

[distant crystal]

That's pretty much the only place it makes sense ye

Maybe there'll be some super magic dmg boss in nyalotha where is worth

Or mechagon

[left hatch]

i can't see it in mechagon, cause even the last boss and his 'i only do magic damage' start

has a phase oh super heavy hitting melee attacks when hes in the robat

[exotic spoke]

I only did it like 3-4 weeks ago? Was a 21 tyrannical I think?

[left hatch]

oh nvm, this was months ago

carry on

[cursive osprey]

probably been said a million times but we still running crucible major on tuesday over VOP?

[warm plinth]

For raid parsing, yes.

For M+, it has always been VoP, and will continue to be VoP.

[cursive osprey]

thought so...didnt think the 12% was gonna affect much

yeah should of specified raid

[warm plinth]

No worries, I assumed you meant raids anyway :p

[hoary belfry]

what do you guys think of conflict and strife + aegis of the deep + nullification dynamo as minor essence for the next patch?

[strong forum]

youre gonna wanna use one of the new essences as minor for the corruption resistance

[exotic spoke]

^^

[mortal brook]

formless will have strong mainstat/haste uptime

as a minor

other two are questionable

[left hatch]

at least for M+ wouldn't one of the existing favs (like sphere) give more value than formless

as long as the 10 resistance isn't necesary for another good corruption piece

[sick sentinel]

the 10 resistance will almost always going to be important

[left hatch]

mm idk, at least my limited ptr experience didn't get enough corrupted pieces to warrent it

was able to remain below 20 corruption with just the cloak

but also didn't do more than 2-3 keys

and do ptr once

this was also before the huge increases to some of the costs

so yah looking at it now you 100% right, once you get a high cost piece its way more likely the limiting factor will be resistance and avoiding a spooky corruption breakpoint, rather than your access to corruption pieces

[sick sentinel]

by the time you have 75 neck you will will have enough corrupted pieces

[left hatch]

yah, i was in the mindset of everything still costing in the 25 bracket

was being dumb

[mortal brook]

75 day 3

[analog zinc]

75 is only 158k ap

thats really not much

same as last tier only you have 1 less week

[left hatch]

EP will still drop AP next week, but Uldir and BFD won't right?

or don't anymore rather

[analog zinc]

right now uldir gives 100 ap each, bda gives 300 each

[left hatch]

hmmm ok

[near ivy]

EP gives 900

[analog zinc]

i'm assuming it'll be dropped to 100/100/300/900

[near ivy]

BDA AP got nerfed post TEP release

[analog zinc]

maybe uldir will give 30 ap who knows

[near ivy]

however

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFRpFkZFrOU

[warm plinth]

Who the shit calls it BDA; we got some weirdos in here

[left hatch]

BfD

[analog zinc]

because the raid is called both Battle of Dazaralor & Battle For Dazaralor

[left hatch]

im tired ):

[analog zinc]

BoD only works for the former

[warm plinth]

It's BoD

[analog zinc]

BDA works for both

fuck your bod

[analog zinc]

Battle For Dazar'alor

[warm plinth]

Lawyered

BfD = Blackfathom Deeps
BDA = nothing

Fight me

[analog zinc]

you understood what I meant, so it means battle for dazar'alor

[warm plinth]

It means Big Ducks Arguing to me

[left hatch]

Belly dancers anonomous

[warm plinth]

Babies Doing Aerobics

[potent anvil]

[warm plinth]

Deswind I miss Pogwind; when is he coming back?

[exotic spoke]

I preferred benchedwind followed by raiderwind (my favorite if im honest)

[sick sentinel]

same

[potent anvil]

Maybe if you ping a mod, they'll change it. Maybe Late 🤔

[warm plinth]

@ionic fern Please change Deswind's name to Wishhehadabetternamewind

[strong forum]

Bod or 👉 🚪

[exotic spoke]

That’s like a lot of extra work and I don’t want to be a follower deswind.

[civic isle]

This would be a question for any warrior that has come from bear tanking.......is it really worth switching over? I’m trying to break into the 20 keys. And on my bear I’m plusing 19s but can’t seems to plus 20s. Is making the switch worth it?

[onyx vessel]

Just play the game

Simple

[civic isle]

That’s not what I’m asking .

[onyx vessel]

Oof

[full cloud]

How much DPS do you do overall?

[civic isle]

I think around 22k?

[onyx vessel]

25k

I dont try

[full cloud]

Wish I had more input, just curious

[onyx vessel]

Cof and hit it every 30 seconds

Beat meat

Repeat

M+ no idea shits overrated

[full cloud]

@civic isle some people here say they do 30k overall as a Prot War, for what it's worth. I typically do 25k overall, but I'm not Mythic raid geared and I PUG so I'm not usually doing giant butt puckering pulls at >+15

Hopefully someone who plays both can weigh in

[strong forum]

I do 35-40k on average

Bear should be able to reach similar numbers as they have comparable aoe dps output

Generally you should be able to push 20s with a coordinated group, any tank can.
However I can't deny that it will be easier to find people willing to play with a 'meta' tank than with a guardian cuz 99% of people have no clue

[analog swift]

holy fuck 35-40K is a shit ton

[strong forum]

Eh

I'm unhappy if I'm below 40k

Tbhlad

[analog swift]

fr

i can't break like 33K

what level keys are you doing?

[strong forum]

Memes keys 17-19

But key level doesn't change my numbers really

[analog swift]

yeah that's crazy

idk why i can't do anything like the people here do

i did in s2

but suck now

[strong forum]

🤷

[analog swift]

hit avatar on cd (mainly) 3x bom etc.

[strong forum]

My best was 46k FH

But late does 60k in FH

[analog swift]

wtf

i gotta see some meters for that

[strong forum]

Cuz he pulls packs into bosses

He posted a screen of that 60k

[warm plinth]

Late's M+ philosophy is "let's see if I can do this without dying"

[strong forum]

Ye...

I should adapt that too, but fuck sanguine

[analog swift]

i mean

is that a +10 carry tho

[strong forum]

Na

[warm plinth]

Some mobs are so troll

[strong forum]

It's FH 17

[analog swift]

druid legit did 20K

wow

[strong forum]

Just pepega druid

I don't trust my own dps players enough to do crazy shit

Haven't seen em break 60k yet

Except fury

[analog swift]

lololol

[warm plinth]

I can't break 60k so :/

[full cloud]

Damn, I feel like trash now

[analog swift]

just did a few underrots to try to get a key for the weekly, had a bm hunter do 65K overall

that was crazy

[strong forum]

Ye, my fury mates did close to 70k overall

[full cloud]

How many mobs per pull on average you'd say?

[strong forum]

In UR and ML

[analog swift]

depends

underrot the packs are pretty small

this was on a +20

[strong forum]

Underrot is perfect for fury

[analog swift]

so the packs are meh sized

yeah

underrot packs are generally

[strong forum]

On ml you can pump as warri tho

[analog swift]

4-5, a lasher a swarmer a maggot then a rot or two

[strong forum]

By best Was 43k in s3 in UR

As tank

On like 17 or so

[full cloud]

Do you gear/spec for full offense?

[analog swift]

as warrior? I do

[strong forum]

Yes

[analog swift]

at a higher level most don't reccomend it

[full cloud]

I don't trust PUGs so sadly I roll conservatively

[analog swift]

on my monk, just going from a 435 urchin/edicts to mythic level, made a DRASTIC difference

eh

that's an excuse

[strong forum]

Only at 21+ I'd say it's beneficial

[full cloud]

It is

But

[analog swift]

pugs have nothing to do with your defensive/offense play tbh

[full cloud]

It makes it smoother

[analog swift]

so can using cyclotronic blast on a prior mob

[full cloud]

I feel like it does, if the healer doesn't have to worry about me, people die less

[analog swift]

yeah yeah same old excuse

[full cloud]

lol

[analog swift]

I play defensively because ooga booga dps are bad

hear it all the time

i never buy it

[full cloud]

:(

[analog swift]

unless you're doing, i'd say 18+

in pugs you grabbing a few more defensive trinkets doesn't make a damn difference

[warm plinth]

There's no real "playing" offensively/defensively as a warrior. You can change some trinkets but that's really it.

[strong forum]

Defensive trinkets aren't gonna safe your life, they're only played to smoothen shit in giga keys

[analog swift]

exactly

same with brewmaster

the playstyle is 95% the same

[warm plinth]

Yeah like you should be doing the same rotation and shit no matter what.

[analog swift]

people who say that aren't using blackout strike or demo shout on cd

[full cloud]

Yeah I guess that's what I mean, just defensively trinket

[analog swift]

but that's not a huge differnce to ur dps

tbh

[rigid sinew]

someone once told me demo shout is a defensive

[analog swift]

i just hear people who do shit dps use "playing defensively" as an excuse

[full cloud]

My HPS will fluctuate about 7k going from "offensive" to "defensive"

[analog swift]

that

is literally irrelevant

hps matters aproximately

zero

for warriors

[strong forum]

That's exactly what urchin/edict combo gives you

7k hps

[analog swift]

sure

[full cloud]

Then add that to your base toolkit

[analog swift]

but i would never look at urchin/edict

at the row HPS they give

raw*

[full cloud]

Feels pretty decent

[strong forum]

My average hps without both is depending on key 15-17k

[analog swift]

sure it probabl feels decent

and that's fine

[chilly brook]

Oh man

[analog swift]

it feels a little easier to play, can allow you to make more mistakes

sure

[chilly brook]

Tomorrow is gonna be hella fun

[full cloud]

Haha

[analog swift]

i just hate that excuse

just pump man

[strong forum]

Playing offensively means playing defensively

[full cloud]

What trinkets are you running anyway?

I don't think I have good ones

[strong forum]

Block + X

[analog swift]

monk? urchin+edicts

warrior block +rezans

[full cloud]

Just the mechagon card and coral

[chilly brook]

Gonna build my new pc tomorrow

[analog swift]

both defensive and offensive trinkets

[strong forum]

Block + rezan
Block + coral
Block + inkpod

All depends on my feely craft

Tbh

[full cloud]

Guess I gotta farm me a block

[analog swift]

yeet

[strong forum]

Can't deduce a best combo

[analog swift]

urchin+edicts is bonkers for BrM tho and covers their very real weakness

[strong forum]

And monk stacks shitton of vers

[rigid sinew]

block + vial not worth?

[chilly brook]

What weakness xD

[analog swift]

yeet

well that's because of the trinkets

[chilly brook]

Vial is fine

[strong forum]

Vial is fine if you percetly know how to use it

[chilly brook]

^

[analog swift]

but yeah hps as a warrior is legit an irrelevant metric

[strong forum]

Aka when you have avatar and demo up, then press it in conjunction with TC

[rigid sinew]

i just avatar > clap > demo and vial > clap clap clap

[strong forum]

Yes that correct

[rigid sinew]

dont main spec prot so not really the best

[analog swift]

probs macro it onto tclap

save urself a gdc

[chilly brook]

So

[strong forum]

Eh

[chilly brook]

I got a 512gb ssd for $60 today

[analog swift]

could be wrong

[chilly brook]

Felt great

[analog swift]

oh shit

[strong forum]

Grats

[rigid sinew]

[strong forum]

( is that cheap?)

[chilly brook]

Also I wouldn't macro vial to anything if you're trying to maximize it

[strong forum]

Haven't checked it for like 2 years

[chilly brook]

It's a pretty good price imo

[analog swift]

LOL

[rigid sinew]

lol my gear is optimized for fury

[analog swift]

yeah

griff

you're fucking right

now i'm just realizing how fucking terrible that advice is

macro to t clap

fucking lol

[chilly brook]

It's a sata ssd so not the best but realistically you're not going to notice tbh

[strong forum]

I need to buy more ssds...

I'm running low on my 512 and 256

[chilly brook]

Prices honestly are coming to a nice level

[rigid sinew]

only clap when vial 10/10

[strong forum]

Ohno

[rigid sinew]

big brain

[strong forum]

Big bdk dps

[chilly brook]

Like for reference a 1tb hdd from western digital is like $44 and that sandisk ssd I bought was 512gb at $64.99

[rigid sinew]

i have a 455 fang

[chilly brook]

No

Delete that

Right now

Get rid of it

Bad trinket for prot

[rigid sinew]

i dont actually use it

[chilly brook]

Good

You'll get clapped trying to use it in keys

[rigid sinew]

i equipped so i can trade 455s both slots and now its expulsom

havent got a 455 since tho

[strong forum]

Fang apparently pumps

[rigid sinew]

i only tank up to like 19s

[strong forum]

But you need to use it really well

[chilly brook]

It's good damage but really bad if you use it at the wrong time or wrong mob

For DKs it's a non issue

[rigid sinew]

u like have to use it with shield wall or u just die

[strong forum]

Or shockwave

[rigid sinew]

channeling that

[strong forum]

And stay abit on range

Or during treants

If available to you

[rigid sinew]

boomkins

[chilly brook]

Boomies are dope

[rigid sinew]

if only they existed in my guild

[chilly brook]

Best ranged class imo now that they removed that stupid pendulum swing

Can't really stand any of the others

But that's why I don't play them

[rigid sinew]

ranged

eh

[strong forum]

1 ranged is fine

And below push level keys shit doesn't matter anyway

[rigid sinew]

i meant i personally dont like playing ranged

[strong forum]

Ah

[chilly brook]

Just 3 stack fire mages 4head

[strong forum]

I hate that too ye

[chilly brook]

Oh shit

Hold on

[rigid sinew]

i run occasionally with an ele sham

[chilly brook]

Fire is about to be insane

[strong forum]

Oh god that a ♿ and a half griff

[chilly brook]

As if it wasn't already good

[strong forum]

I'm cucked into full ranged stacks

[chilly brook]

Think about all that crit

[strong forum]

In my m+

[chilly brook]

With corrupted gear

[strong forum]

Ele boomy fire mage and rsham

[rigid sinew]

rsham

[strong forum]

Thats what I run 99% of the time

[chilly brook]

Literally every global is just gonna be a pyro from fire mages

[strong forum]

Idk griff

[chilly brook]

I'm being hyperbolic

But the crit is gonna be nasty

[strong forum]

Crit dmg is gonna be good, but the dmg proc are gonna be better in m+ I reckon

[chilly brook]

Yea but the more pyroblasts the fire mage gets the bigger the dot

[strong forum]

Will see

I don't like to speculate

[chilly brook]

This is my one speculation

[rigid sinew]

my meme team is vdh arms hpal fmage and sin rogue

[strong forum]

Fine tbh

[rigid sinew]

meme team like 17-19

[chilly brook]

And it goes like this: corrupted gear killed every other mage spec besides fire

[strong forum]

Fine tbh

Ye that'll be true griff

[chilly brook]

Vengeance is honestly not even a meme anymore

They're tanky af

[rigid sinew]

ive found that spec choice doesnt really matter until like 21ish?

[strong forum]

Vdh is busted

[rigid sinew]

from the 21 i tried at least

[chilly brook]

Just not competitive in damage compared to other tanks

[strong forum]

Ye around those levels it kind of starts to matter

[rigid sinew]

thats where the hpal came in

[strong forum]

Below is literally a playground

[rigid sinew]

yeah korgus as arms is like pepega aways d stance

my arms gear isnt even that good

[chilly brook]

Imo at this point blizz should just take all damage talents from tanks and just make them baseline and just play around with utility and different DR options in the talent tree

[strong forum]

That'd be fun wtf

That's not allowed

Stop it

[rigid sinew]

we get uh

mocking shout in shadowlands

xd

[strong forum]

I'm more excited about the changes that come in pvp with those

Shield block as arms

Shattering throw

:pog:

[chilly brook]

I'd like to see talent trees be more focused around m+ and adding in different unique utility for it because there are a lot of rows that are completely irrelevant for raids

[strong forum]

I can see that ye

[chilly brook]

@strong forum too bad they took away gear swapping in m+ so you can't taunt the boss and shield block an ability for the tank

One more bone headed move that should have never happened

But pepega casuals got mad that they didn't have io and blamed a min maxing thing that didn't have a huge impact on performance outside of legendaries

[rigid sinew]

prydaz

im getting hyrja flashbacks

[chilly brook]

Oh no

Tyrannical hyrja 🤮

Still loved those dungeons far more than current dungeons though

[rigid sinew]

dont worry soon we can deal with mechagon and realize how stupid it is

[strong forum]

Seat but in Bfa

[rigid sinew]

ITS A SEEEEAAATT

[strong forum]

And on bfa dungeon steroids

Ohno

[rigid sinew]

i never did seat beyond like a 15

was so done by that point in the xpac

[strong forum]

Same, I think

If at all

[rigid sinew]

prenerf arcway

[mortal brook]

looks like they did the tuning pass so we wont get straight COEN'd. some of the bosses got nerfed like 80% base so wont be awful m+

[rigid sinew]

prenerf moroes

[mortal brook]

platinum pummler heckin 19% of its base health. np

[soft kindle]

Prenerf morose tyran griev

[strong forum]

its 19% cuz for once blizz thought it through, after you smacked the car for 10mil you dont wanna chew through another 10mil 30sec later when you can damage the bot

but tfw mechagon m0 is gonna be harder than +5

king mechagon however will have FUCKTON of HP in the big Bot

[mortal brook]

yup. that gigazap gonna hurt too

[whole dove]

is raidbots APL for prot warrior accurate enough to sim DPS

[oblique garnet]

Its written by @ionic fern

[ionic fern]

Yes it is - soon to be optimized for t25.

[whole dove]

thank you!

[sick sentinel]

That Mwahi guy cannot be trusted.

[ionic fern]

Same.

[grim berry]

Hey there, can someone tell me how much you get back from scrapping crafted items ?

[brittle ledge]

half the mats

and all essences back

[pine forum]

Which trinket of Jes' Howler and Vial of animated blood would be best in m+?

[left hatch]

same ilvl?

cause if its at the same item level and you feel comfortable using vial correctly id go with that

if you're just gonna macro the on use onto Ava and forget about it, Jes

(If you just Macro Vial onto Ava the first GCD where its the juiciest ends up being wasted, so yo'ure supposed to manually use it right after you start ava)

[thorn venture]

hey im 423ilvl can i do +10-15 mythics or need more ilvl?

[left hatch]

can you handle the content- yes

can you get into pug groups - no

or at least doubtful

[strong forum]

^

[spring mirage]

For tanking M+ around keys of 15-20 is it better to run VoP or Lucid as major?

[left hatch]

VoP

Lucid as a major has very niche use for it to be even comparable to VoP

[spring mirage]

👍 thanks .

[left hatch]

namely instances where yo'ure MASSIVELY pulling in above 20 keys, and you absolutely need 40s of back to back Ava to live

[nova gale]

Thinking about returning to wow. Prot still looking strong for 8.3 m+?

[shut summit]

yup

[lusty grotto]

w8

why is late blue

also hi from earthquake island

[civic isle]

@strong forum ur doing 35k overall dps at the end of the dungon ?

[glad ridge]

so with so much solo play in this next patch and expansion im debating on sticking with my warrior and or going Dh my group that i play with we usually run mythics and they have a tendency to hop f for weeks or a month or two at a time so solo play and the lackf self heals make DH look better any advice?

[random urchin]

Play whatever you find fun.

[soft kindle]

prot has plenty of self heals in solo content

so that shouldn't really be a detractor

[stoic pilot]

I mean prot has plenty of self healing in solo

Fury has an absolute ton of survivability if you go that route

I don’t think you’ll be set back by picking Warrior if you’re worried about solo survivability

[glad ridge]

in 9.0 azerite gear and the essences will be gone

[random urchin]

I wouldn’t worry too much about planning a main for Shadowlands just yet.

[soft kindle]

A; that doesn't really affect fury or prot's self sustain much at all

B; that affects everyone, so yeah?

[warm plinth]

And for all we know, specs could change drastically in the expansion and maybe everyone will be a self healing machine.

[left hatch]

whats does azerite gear and essences have to deal with self-healing o.o

warriors self-healing in solo content comes from Victory Rush

which is baseline

[analog zinc]

fury has sick self heals

especially if you stack CSHB like everyone does

[vagrant arrow]

what key i need to do to get 15 next week guys?

[vagrant arrow]

thx

[mental scarab]

Do they change K-value next reset 👀 or is it the reset after

[undone sun]

when is patch

[oblique garnet]

k value changes should come with the season

as in hc week

[winged grail]

Has there been any data collected on impact of potion usage in M+?

In terms of unbridled vs strength, and for example average DPS increase per pack size

[red swallow]

Probably been asked a million times by now, but how are the Nyalotha fights looking for prot? I heard there was a lot of magic damage

[analog zinc]

magic damage isn't inherently bad for prot, IP & your cds work well with any bursts of magic damage, the only thing that hurts is long dots that just shred through your IPs

a couple fights have those, but you should be fine playing prot in nyalotha

there's better choices obviouously but its never going to prevent you from killing bosses

[lusty grotto]

@warm plinth halp i need an adult

too many earthquakes

also why is @oblique garnet blue

[undone sun]

🤣

[warm plinth]

He’s a big boi

[lusty grotto]

hmm

i do not approve

[undone sun]

nim for mod

[lusty grotto]

lol