protection

[lusty grotto]

😢

[sullen valve]

@oblique garnet you know wowA is great

[warm plinth]

Just be careful when you're updating your addons; make sure it doesn't say classic in the latest version

[lusty grotto]

gotta do the extra right click join bg step

[warm plinth]

If it does, either leave it alone or go find it manually on curse

[strong forum]

Abe just trying to sell his product

kek

[sullen valve]

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[warm plinth]

Wait, I've been paying for wowA?

[lusty grotto]

wait what

[warm plinth]

You clever bastard; I didn't even notice

[tame garden]

Daily reminder wowA is free

And works for prot

[lusty grotto]

can i have my dollars back

i need em for presents this year

[sullen valve]

Daily reminder wowA does work for prot

[strong forum]

you only think its free :hehe:

[sick sentinel]

Or don't update via the classic drop down like a sperg

[sullen valve]

do you guys not have premium wowA?

[warm plinth]

Literally doesn't even have ads on it

[strong forum]

for lewds

[tame garden]

That's not what happens banshee

[warm plinth]

Use that shit

[tame garden]

It's a twitch fuckup

[lusty grotto]

ah yes, banshee with the 500 IQ download from the website>unzip>copy paste thing

[warm plinth]

Yeah it's a twitch fuck up

[sick sentinel]

No.

[warm plinth]

Yes.

[sick sentinel]

It's a you fuck up.

[warm plinth]

Nope.

[tame garden]

No u

[lusty grotto]

go on

[sick sentinel]

If it's a twitch fuck up it'd happen for everyone.

[sullen valve]

get wowA premium

[warm plinth]

🤔

I literally open Twitch and click update all like I do every single day

[strong forum]

NOW hes selling his product

[warm plinth]

And it gives me the incorrect addon

[tame garden]

^

[warm plinth]

Sounds like a Twitch problem to me.

[sullen valve]

:qqMonk:

[lusty grotto]

that reminds me, im still patreon'ing raidbots like a fucking retard

[tame garden]

I've never touched anything classic related and got classic addon updates once

[strong forum]

you dont even get nudes from raidbots

smh

[warm plinth]

What do I get for wowA premium?

[lusty grotto]

another thing to cancel, just like my gym membership

[oblique garnet]

@sullen valve Can confirm wowA works 100% got my parses up 8)

[sick sentinel]

Were you under the classic selection or the retail selection you sperg

[sullen valve]

🙂

[tame garden]

Retail

[sullen valve]

late is now on the payroll

[strong forum]

late doesnt parse

[warm plinth]

I don't play classic; why tf would I be under classic

[strong forum]

what is this

[tame garden]

It's a twitch issue

[warm plinth]

I literally don't even have classic installed, nor have I ever

[lusty grotto]

😢

[sullen valve]

also

[ebon geyser]

When ppl listen to banshee and hes a bad troll 🙄

[warm plinth]

Because I'm not Nim

[stiff zenith]

So, seems like we are getting 60% threat back in 8.3, any thoughts?

[lusty grotto]

goddamn it

[oblique garnet]

@strong forum I dont but you know reclears get boring

[sullen valve]

You get private channel in wowA discord for feature requests n stuff like that

[warm plinth]

Sorry, my finger slipped

[strong forum]

ye i get that

[tame garden]

Threat is irrelevant

If you have not troll gear

[ebon geyser]

Why would I request something from WoWA

[sick sentinel]

@ebon geyser how you doing buddy. Still benched?

[lusty grotto]

did anyone say leech?

[oblique garnet]

Cant get good Azshara parse tho

[strong forum]

play HR

like boost

:hahaaaa:

[lusty grotto]

fuck i called the HR thing

another thing i called, from an expansion of calls

[strong forum]

ah no its askor

[lusty grotto]

like RF working with Deva

[chilly brook]

Man

[lusty grotto]

thats 2 calls, i should have fucking played mega millions instead

[chilly brook]

Why did I turn on the TV?

[warm plinth]

If I pay $10 a month

[sick sentinel]

@ebon geyser come back little man. You want to talk some more shit?

[warm plinth]

I get Abelito's immense gratitude

[strong forum]

there exactly 2 parses on top 100 with HR

xD

[warm plinth]

Talk about a fucking benefit.

[oblique garnet]

My monk has better parses than my warrior 🤔

[warm plinth]

❤️

[lusty grotto]

youre disgusting late

[sick sentinel]

I'll fuck you ghash

[warm plinth]

wat

[lusty grotto]

betraying the classic, and using a dirty ass monk

[strong forum]

eww monk

[tame garden]

Classic sucks

[ebon geyser]

Monk is life

[strong forum]

monk is borderline suicide

[lusty grotto]

hey ghash can you make a meme where Late says he wants to play classic, like you did with mine

[warm plinth]

Yeah I already did actually

[lusty grotto]

quick before he deletes the messages

[lusty grotto]

😡

[sick sentinel]

Lol

[warm plinth]

😂

[chilly brook]

I swear these dudes in house literally just like hearing themselves talk, how did some of these people get elected like half of what they say is 0 intelligence

[strong forum]

wait

nim is playing classic

[warm plinth]

Yes, has been for months

[strong forum]

bruh

BRUH

[lusty grotto]

no im like top 5 in keys

[strong forum]

bruh....

[lusty grotto]

listen man, i have 1 binding

[strong forum]

cries in japanese

[lusty grotto]

i cant quit now

[oblique garnet]

I mean monk isnt too bad to play

Except in keys

[chilly brook]

Monk just isn't enjoyable

[lusty grotto]

ill quit when i get my TF of course

😉

[sick sentinel]

If you want to press zero impactful buttons, play monk.

And risk falling asleep

[chilly brook]

Truuuueeee

[oblique garnet]

🤔🤔Not really

[sick sentinel]

But still living

[chilly brook]

Basically true

[lusty grotto]

Late not liek dis

[oblique garnet]

I mean sure you can get grey parses and kill bosses 🤷

[lusty grotto]

y u do dis

i now miss the bears

[chilly brook]

And not die

[lusty grotto]

🗞️ 🐻 get in here bears 🗞️ 🐻

[chilly brook]

Look man monk lost way too much of its toolkit tbh

[lusty grotto]

drown out the late monk talk

[sick sentinel]

The most useful button to press as monk is your cyclo trinket

[chilly brook]

Bring back chi

Bring back shuffle

Bring back guard

[lusty grotto]

griff can you reroll to hpal btw

[chilly brook]

Bring back blackout kick

[lusty grotto]

we need 2

[chilly brook]

Oof

[lusty grotto]

ty

[chilly brook]

Lol

I would probably do it tbh

But job

[lusty grotto]

ez to lvl now that horde is stuck in 7 min BG queues

[chilly brook]

No more freetime

[lusty grotto]

(or 30 mins for WSG LMAO)

oof

work work

[oblique garnet]

I mean youre doing your basic rotation as warrior anyways its the same thing with monk only real difference is that you have to press your mitigation smartly 8)

[chilly brook]

I member when I actually had to have chi to purify

[lusty grotto]

Late STAHP

[chilly brook]

And we didn't have ridiculous stagger levels

thanks isb

[oblique garnet]

@lusty grotto ill stop when you quit classic

[lusty grotto]

no, come to classic

you know you want to

play with a real pvp baller guild

and pve of course

[chilly brook]

Sometimes I seriously consider dropping retail

[oblique garnet]

No classic is mind numbingly boring

Its like playing bdk

[lusty grotto]

ok well at least we're still flaming those

😄

[oblique garnet]

Might have to play one next tier 😪

[lusty grotto]

SMH

[chilly brook]

Bdk is more fun than monk lmao

[oblique garnet]

Are you high?

[lusty grotto]

ok im off to fight club where im cementing my toxic-chip brand

[chilly brook]

No

[oblique garnet]

How is 40 apm class fun

[chilly brook]

I actually have to pay attention to what's going on as a blood dk

[oblique garnet]

No you dont

You sit there hit death strike when you take damage

[analog swift]

monk trying to survive =boring

monk trying to pump damage

fun

[oblique garnet]

^

[analog swift]

dk = sit at lots of rp

get hit

DS

[strong forum]

and then theres warri

where both is the same

:comfy:

[analog swift]

true

i just want to reclear to get rank 1 parses

is that to much to ask

[chilly brook]

Brother

[analog swift]

had a rank top 20 on ashvane at one point, but extending after QC

good bye

[chilly brook]

Doing a +12 as a 410 monk and then doing a +12 as a 410dk it's a big difference in actual effort

[oblique garnet]

Cba with rank 1s with benthic

[strong forum]

i miss my rank 7 radiance and rank 7 QC

[analog swift]

never got that high

tho my ashvane rank was on a prog kill

[strong forum]

and that without benthics 😏

[oblique garnet]

I think i still have rank 5 boss damage on orgozoa

[strong forum]

only 1 on QC

[analog swift]

genuinely curious if it's worth getting second adds on radiance

[oblique garnet]

No

[analog swift]

for parsing

[oblique garnet]

Its not

[analog swift]

i mean

for monk

probably

[chilly brook]

Considering getting high ranks as a brm is literally almost all down to your azerite and benthic I don't see how that's very fun at all

[analog swift]

like pots yeah are huge

eh it's down to ur rotation as well

[strong forum]

im still 52 on boss dmg on orgo

[analog swift]

but lust doesn't affect monks that much, and with adds spawning you get third cyclo cast (or fourth I can't remeber)

[strong forum]

still 25 on QC

kek

[analog swift]

out of the 25 warriors?

[chilly brook]

Press blackout strike on CD and keg smash on cd, don't let rjw fall off if you can help it spend extra globals on tp or crucible

[strong forum]

hah so laugh i forgot to funny

[chilly brook]

Not super engaging or difficult

[analog swift]

i mean

hit Tclap on cd

hit SS on cd

gg

[chilly brook]

And your filler hits for dick

[strong forum]

no tank rotation is hard okay

[chilly brook]

Literally tp is probably the lowest hit in the game I've witnessed

[strong forum]

no point arguing that

[analog swift]

less than deva?

tbh idk

[chilly brook]

We hardly have to deva

[strong forum]

you dont press deva

😏

[analog swift]

oh true

[strong forum]

you run deva

[analog swift]

expel harm is dope tho

[chilly brook]

But like the beauty of prot is not the damage rotation

[strong forum]

its the flow

[chilly brook]

It's the fact that everything works together

[analog swift]

yeah agreed

it all syncs together

[chilly brook]

And that your damage is fairly independent of outside sources

[strong forum]

yup

[analog swift]

what

you're telling me

[strong forum]

thats why i hate 8.2 so much regarding tank dmg

[analog swift]

you don't like to not purify so you do mroe damage? cuz monk

[strong forum]

its SO MANY EXTERNAL SOURCES OF DMG

like 50% of your dps isnt even class related

[analog swift]

yeah i mean that's true

[oblique garnet]

Benthic rng

[chilly brook]

If you're referring to hot trub

[analog swift]

nah

training of nizaou

[strong forum]

mastery

[chilly brook]

Oh

[analog swift]

hot trub is hot garbage

[chilly brook]

Lmao

[analog swift]

the majority of the time tbh

like the vast vast majority

[chilly brook]

No I actually purify because I like letting my healers do dps

[strong forum]

hot trub only makes monks viable in high m+ cuz theres actually dmg to be taken

[analog swift]

yeah

like giga high

[strong forum]

to translate into enough dmg

[analog swift]

even 21 freehold tyr

doens't come close to cof

[lusty grotto]

hey guys am i making the toxic chip legacy proud?

@warm plinth

this is what i do now

[analog swift]

like all 20 keys except freehold fort it losing to cof

[warm plinth]

Dude, I actually have a screen clip of one of your best toxic moments

One sec

[chilly brook]

That's the other thing

[lusty grotto]

NOOOO

[lusty grotto]

goddamn it

[chilly brook]

I honestly don't like CoF

[strong forum]

Nim you can never escape

[oblique garnet]

I mean why play monk on high keys when you could play warrior which is actually fun in keys

[lusty grotto]

😢

[analog swift]

yeah for warrior i hate it

i like to ring of peace ok

[strong forum]

agreed Late

[analog swift]

it makes me feel good

[chilly brook]

And having it literally locked into the major 100% sucks

[strong forum]

#1 tank right now is Warri so it must be better right

[oblique garnet]

I like to do damage in keys

[strong forum]

monk dead already

[analog swift]

i used to hate monk in high keys

eh

i do pretty similar damage as a warrior

[strong forum]

#1 is warri so monk must be dead in m+ right

[oblique garnet]

Not even close

[analog swift]

but roping tides feels so good

ehhhhhhh

EHHHHHHHH

what do y'all end like 20~ keys at?

[oblique garnet]

40+

[strong forum]

i have yet to see a monk break 35k overall

[chilly brook]

Idk I don't do 20s because I can't be bothered to find a group

[analog swift]

did 37K in a freehold 20

and higher it's even easier

ofc

[oblique garnet]

This week?

[analog swift]

nah

ummm

last push week

so like

two weeks ago

fort volc bursting

[distant crystal]

this week scuffed alts are doing 40K

cuz so many mobs lol

[strong forum]

This week is pad heaven

But really bad for timing

[chilly brook]

I wouldn't mind trying to do higher keys but finding a group is aids

[analog swift]

yeah

i nearly quit doing keys until i found a gruop

like with a group, even if you fail

you all leave feeling like you learned something

[strong forum]

I'm extremely autistic when it comes to the people I play with, otherwise I'd push fucking hard

[warm plinth]

Markdown previews 👌

[analog swift]

like my group had a 21 underrot

missed it by two minutes, figured out what we did wrong

got the 21 again and smoked it

and that was awesome

in a pug that doesn't happen

[chilly brook]

And for some reason a ton of people are so averse to just explaining the small things that they want you to do and use it as a reason to not take you

[strong forum]

That's what m+ is about, 2nd time is always way easier

[analog swift]

yeah

but if i was pugging

[strong forum]

Like so much easier

[analog swift]

the next group might not know what we figured out

[warm plinth]

Idk my group did an 18 FH, cleared it pretty damn smooth

And then fucked it hard when we did another 18 FH right after

[analog swift]

LOL

[strong forum]

Back in s1 we did 3 motherlode 16s back to back to back

[analog swift]

i mean that happens as well

[strong forum]

To time this shit

[warm plinth]

We reverse progressioned that shit

[strong forum]

And be done with it

[analog swift]

yeah that's happened to us, but we got lucky last push week, 20 freehold, 21 UR 20 freehold 21 UR

[warm plinth]

Sick

[chilly brook]

Like my favorite is the "we'd take you but you don't know the routes" brother how am I supposed to learn them if no one shows me or tells me

[analog swift]

fort with bursting swarmers is nasty

don't you even dratnos?

my group we all have input on the routes, which is good

[oblique garnet]

Nexg season m+ will atleast be better than garbage beguiling now if they would just remove necrotic and sanguine

[analog swift]

eh

i like those affixes

[chilly brook]

Tf is dratnos

[strong forum]

Yeh im kinda excited

[analog swift]

they're aids in certain dungeons

[strong forum]

Maybe my group will get more free time to destroy some keys

[analog swift]

but nearly completely avoidable affixes

[strong forum]

Fuck beguiling

[analog swift]

that's cuz you don't have rop

[oblique garnet]

V o i d week

[sick sentinel]

Sanguine change was dumb

[analog swift]

oh

TRUE

yeah the worst part of beguiling

is having a completely dead week every 3 weeks

[oblique garnet]

Who needs rop when you have root

[chilly brook]

True

[analog swift]

rop means you can do them with bosses n shit

[strong forum]

Who needs root when you have....

Autism

[oblique garnet]

I mean you can pull trash to bosses even with emissaries

In UR theres one tides pack that is annoying thats about it

[analog swift]

which juan?

the one berfore 3rd?

[chilly brook]

Would you get more damage ramp if you did a giga pull onto a boss with 2 uh dks or just 1?

[strong forum]

2

2 > 1

[warm plinth]

You didn't see the MDI clip where two UH DKs hit almost 1 mil each?

[chilly brook]

Nah

[warm plinth]

It was nuts

[chilly brook]

Cba to watch the mdi tbh

[strong forum]

mdi is one of the few things im excited for on wow

[empty nacelle]

was that the start of freehold right?

[warm plinth]

I don't remember tbh

I don't recall what I had for breakfast

[strong forum]

imagine eating breakfast

lo

[sand egret]

Cinnamon Toast Crunch

[warm plinth]

Yeah I actually didn't eat breakfast

[chilly brook]

I saw the one in UR where they had one dk that hit like 800k on the first boss

[warm plinth]

Blade, you know you're a beautiful man right?

[chilly brook]

But that's it

[analog swift]

dont worry guys warrior next tier

mass spell reflect op af

[sand egret]

My mom tells me that, yes.

[chilly brook]

How we gonna get mass Spell reflect?

[strong forum]

just hack

idiot

[empty nacelle]

https://youtu.be/p18kQtm1TSs?t=77

[warm plinth]

This might be it. I can't see Twitch vids at work but the thumbnail was MDI https://www.twitch.tv/warcraft/clip/LuckyLazyPepperHassanChop

[empty nacelle]

think it might be that one

[chilly brook]

Or are they changing conflict and strife

[empty nacelle]

but its old

[strong forum]

no hes just memeing

matt

[chilly brook]

I see

If only we got it back tho

😑

[lusty grotto]

yes the bears were summoned

[strong forum]

Shush

[chilly brook]

Bears are gay

Fight me

[lusty grotto]

i will not, they are

but also its the 21st century so

bears are gross is better

[chilly brook]

No

I refuse to be PC

[lusty grotto]

but deffo not as gross as monks

[strong forum]

PC is fake and gay

[warm plinth]

I actually have proof that not being politically correct is important for society. Lemme find the link

[strong forum]

fucking...

[lusty grotto]

it is but thats not ... goddamn it

[strong forum]

LAMO

[warm plinth]

❤️

[lusty grotto]

saying gay is not bad is not pc at all

it just isnt anymore lol

pc is when you avoid using the word altogether

[strong forum]

PC is cancer to society

[chilly brook]

Stop being gay toxichip

[quiet crane]

You just got caught out and speared nim

[tame garden]

🪓 🐻 @chilly brook

[warm plinth]

I feel like we're getting a little too dumb right now tbh

[lusty grotto]

typical skyhold

whens the food convo coming up @outer dew

i actually had a baconator yesterday

[outer dew]

ooh

that sounds tasty

[lusty grotto]

i dont know what happened

[outer dew]

iunno

moving back home atm

oh

SOME DUDE

here was like

[lusty grotto]

like idk why i even considered ordering one

[outer dew]

i made some traditional pho

but he put cinnamon in a chicken pho

and i got upset

[warm plinth]

Wendy's actually is my favorite fast food burger because they understand the beauty of mayo and ketchup together

[lusty grotto]

but why

[outer dew]

the names

[lusty grotto]

cinnamon on pho wat

[outer dew]

so

[chilly brook]

I'm actually hungry

[outer dew]

cinnamon is normally in beef pho

but it's not in chicken

because it's too strong

[lusty grotto]

its called mayoketchup ghash, ricans love it

[warm plinth]

Am I part rican? 🤔

[lusty grotto]

im gonna be honest tofu, ive never tasted cinnamon on pho

and honestly it doesnt sound appealing

[outer dew]

🤔

it's a normal spice

if you don't have it

are you really eating pho?

[lusty grotto]

yes

[outer dew]

it's when you're steeping

like

so when you eat out

[lusty grotto]

pho without cinnamon yuck

[outer dew]

they skimp out on proper spices

[lusty grotto]

maybe its minimal

[outer dew]

well

[sick sentinel]

Alright. Let's settle this here...

@outer dew and...

Where's fake tofu?

[outer dew]

you're putting full cinnamon sticks

to seep

[lusty grotto]

i do beef pho though

[warm plinth]

Banshee has no balls. Won't even ping

[outer dew]

yea

but beef pho

traditionally has

cinnamon steeped

:pepehan

[lusty grotto]

right but i cant remember tasting it

[outer dew]

are you making it

[lusty grotto]

or maybe its the gallon of sriracha i put in it

[outer dew]

or outside?

outside is pretty shitty

when it comes to spices

[warm plinth]

What's the point of the first R in sriracha anyway

[lusty grotto]

im not making it, i can only cook plantains

as a rican its the only thing i can make

[chilly brook]

What's the point of sriracha to begin with

[outer dew]

😂

[chilly brook]

Ha goteeem

[lusty grotto]

pepebait

[outer dew]

sweetness/hint of sourness/spice

[warm plinth]

I've never had sriracha

[lusty grotto]

i ❤️ sriracha

[warm plinth]

I loved you, until you went to classic

[chilly brook]

Oof

[lusty grotto]

oh god

[crisp zinc]

which of these should i use? I dont know how much ilvl sockets on legs are worth

[outer dew]

wasn't

nim a mad hater of classic

😂

[warm plinth]

Hmmm

[lusty grotto]

ghash order some fries from anywhere, and buy a bottle of sriracha, you're welcome

[warm plinth]

I think I have proof that he was, in fact, a hater of classic @outer dew

[lusty grotto]

NONONO

[lusty grotto]

fml

[chilly brook]

Super off topic but gal gadot is hot af

[outer dew]

😂

exposed af

[lusty grotto]

sockets on legs are worth 0

btw

[warm plinth]

Credit goes to myself and @modern brook

I'll be here all week

[outer dew]

lmao

it's okay

nimchip is

a fake gamer

:^)

but oh yea

so

[warm plinth]

Yeah I would not give up ilevel on legs for a socket either.

[outer dew]

i don't like how al ot of outside places

use the thin noodles for pho

instead of wide noodles

[warm plinth]

Speaking of pho

[sick sentinel]

Ghash I can't find fake tofu otherwise I would have

[warm plinth]

Tofu did you know you're un-pho-gettable? ❤️

[sand egret]

did i miss Classichip

[lusty grotto]

no

[outer dew]

lmao

thanks

[warm plinth]

I think you did Blade

[outer dew]

😉

[sand egret]

how's your ret pally going

[lusty grotto]

also pho is the best hangover remedy - prove me wrong

[warm plinth]

I will

[lusty grotto]

SMH

no

[warm plinth]

It's not the best hangover remedy at all

[lusty grotto]

stop

oof ok

[warm plinth]

Because

[lusty grotto]

ok ok after not drinking

[outer dew]

ghash

[warm plinth]

There exists a substance that consists of a number of ingredients

[outer dew]

i'll get you some homemade pho

and you'll understand

[lusty grotto]

is it water?!

[warm plinth]

No

It's

[sand egret]

gottem

[lusty grotto]

jesus fucking christ

[sand egret]

Classic, best hangover rememdy

because you just go back to bed while playing

[warm plinth]

I will try anything new as long as it doesn't have a weird animal in it

[lusty grotto]

😄

[warm plinth]

I tried to try frog legs once but I couldn't bring myself to do it

[lusty grotto]

i cant do chicken feet

seen it

i cant do it

idk how they go for it, as a delicacy

[outer dew]

chicken

feet

is

so amazing

do you like pork feet?

[lusty grotto]

i cant do it

no

[outer dew]

it's the same idea as pork feet

[warm plinth]

Which sounds like a bad idea to me

[lusty grotto]

any feet or tongue dish is a no go for me

[modern brook]

@warm plinth that's going to be my last meme

My sub ended yesterday I'm officially done with wow

[warm plinth]

RIP

We'll miss you brave warrior

[modern brook]

I guess the secret can come out: I played mostly rogue

My warrior is like 403

[warm plinth]

Just take the compliment

[quiet crane]

Bring back sunder

And banners

God I wish there’s a few iterations of warr they brought back into it

Gladiator was the best

[empty nacelle]

eh not all banners

[quiet crane]

I liked it tbh

Expecially things like mocking banner it’s such a warrior thing to do

[empty nacelle]

yeah mocking was fine

[quiet crane]

Chuck down some insult to another clan or race with a banner and say come at me

[empty nacelle]

but i wasnt a fan of skull banner

[quiet crane]

Can’t remember the skull banner effects

[empty nacelle]

or all the other raid dps CDs in mop

was crit and crit damage i think?

nah just crit damage

20%

[quiet crane]

Omph

Fire Mage be your best friend if that existed now

[empty nacelle]

well there was BL, stormlash totem and skull banner

and im not sure if there were others

[fallen relic]

so I'm at ~410 ilvl and i'm keeping my cd's rolling but i feel squishy in m+5-6

Especially in magic damage, is there something I'm missing?

[wild sandal]

I have 1.6cr in 3v3 and got 5 badges this reset, and i capped my conqust throught some pvp quests, do i must do 3v3 to get 5 badges again next reset, or i only need to cap the bar even without doing arena again

[sick sentinel]

I believe you just need to cap

[chilly brook]

@fallen relic you probably are because you should be able to do 10s fairly easily

[analog zinc]

@fallen relic shield block x3, last stand, shield block x2, shield wall, shield block x1
you should use a weakaura to track Ignore pain, as if you cast ignore pain twice in a row it'll just refresh & you'll waste a ton of it
for magic damage you want to have CDs & IP ready for it, if magic damage hits you unmitigated, it'll fuck you, warrior is ok at magic damage but only if you're prepared for it

[warm plinth]

^ Basically what he said. I would only add that it's better to overcap IP than it is to overcap rage.

So avoid overcapping IP if possible but it will happen at times.

[exotic spoke]

@bold mirage Sup

[tame garden]

@exotic spoke sup

[exotic spoke]

@tame garden Sup

[bold mirage]

@exotic spoke hey how are you? you're the man

[exotic spoke]

Awwww thanks friend

@warm plinth Why dont you say nice things like that to me?

[warm plinth]

What do you mean? I thought it was implied ❤️

[exotic spoke]

I will shank a bitch

[warm plinth]

D:

[exotic spoke]

❤️

[warm plinth]

Riki did you know that you're a rose in a field of daisies

[exotic spoke]

Awww

See thats what i needed

[sick sentinel]

What am I

[tame garden]

[chilly brook]

Pepega @sick sentinel

[warm plinth]

You are an incredibly sensitive man who inspires joy joy feelings in all those around you

[tame garden]

im not feeling joy joy

[sick sentinel]

I am joy

[warm plinth]

I'm gonna be real disappointed if no one understands the reference

[sick sentinel]

I DEFINE joy

[mortal brook]

can confirm ^

[sick sentinel]

Steve still exists

Thanks feller

[mortal brook]

ofc. I've always existed O.o

[sick sentinel]

The only joy I feel is when @warm plinth and @exotic spoke send me feet pics

[warm plinth]

Be careful what you wish for

[next plover]

So what is considered a "good" up time % for shield block?

[ionic fern]

Not sure in what content either m+ or raids but in general there isn't a % to aim for with SB.
YOu can throw SB outs on CD and get a good overall uptime % but that doesn't mean they were used properly/when needed.
Just aim to keep SB up when taking blockable damage and you'll be fine

[vague badge]

@empty nacelle wasn't shattering throw reducing the armor of the target, thus increasing physical damage ?

[pallid berry]

anyone here play a monk on the side?

or just also plays a monk is a better way to say that

[ionic fern]

From time to time.

[pallid berry]

my guild is bitching at me to roll one for mythic prog, because they want the 5% damage buff but they dont wanna lose their dps for it, or sac a healer

problem is, the class is the most boring tank class for me

got any advice on making it interesting

[ionic fern]

No, not really.

😂

[pallid berry]

they keep saying they enjoy it

[ionic fern]

I'm confused tho..."Dont wanna lose their dps for it"?

[pallid berry]

but none of them really full time play tank

ww is not good rn apparently

[ionic fern]

🤔

[pallid berry]

and requires more stuff or something

better execution

and im not too sure on the healer front

[ionic fern]

What world guild rank are you in?

[pallid berry]

apparently revival messes with dispelling

i dont know, were not even close to any of that i dont think

which is an entirely different reason to complain

[ionic fern]

is your guild achieving CE usually?

[pallid berry]

nah its first tier we have enough for mythic, blew through first 3

[ionic fern]

You rerolling monk won't change anything for them if they are just a "semi casual".

[pallid berry]

but ashvane is being ashvane

hopefully with folks getting guild enforced help it wont matter

[ionic fern]

Don't play what you don't enjoy - it's a game first and foremost and ment to be enjoyed.

[pallid berry]

im well aware of that, but im sick of their bitching about it

[ionic fern]

Isn't switching the guild a possibility?

[pallid berry]

i got a monk that i havent touched since uldir

nah its real life friends for quite a few, plus i helped found it

[stoic pilot]

So you should have more say in it

[pallid berry]

listen i aint bowing to them, but if its needed to progress because they cant pull 5% more out their ass

[ionic fern]

If you're stuck on Ashvane chances are that the DPS are slacking/not doing their rotation properly etc. If they require the 5% buff from monk to down it you'll just get stuck on other more relevant damage checks in the future unless they get their shit together.

[pallid berry]

theyre not holding a gun to my head

[stoic pilot]

You guys aren’t hardstuck on ashvane because of no monk tho

[pallid berry]

i just wanted to see if anyone had a way to make it interesting

[ionic fern]

Eeeh..

[pallid berry]

i mean, we got like 4% on tuesday

[stoic pilot]

Maybe going full dps mode on monk

With cyclo and crucible

[pallid berry]

and alot of our dps big pumpers are melee

[stoic pilot]

But I haven’t tried it

[pallid berry]

meh going full dps mode on warrior is what helped us get there

tanking ashvane is kinda resident sleeper

[ionic fern]

Jep.
Unfortunately no secret way to make monk be fun all of a sudden. 😦

[pallid berry]

i dont really get why they say monk is fun to them

[stoic pilot]

Idk tho monk is the one tank I never play cuz it’s boring as hell

[pallid berry]

i for the life of me cant see it

[stoic pilot]

Because they enjoy minimal effort for maximum reward

[pallid berry]

couldndt tell ya that

they put the work in on their dps, and their dps got better rotations then bm monk

[ionic fern]

Out of curiosity - what was your groups DPS like on the 4% wipe? Did anyone die?

[pallid berry]

think 1 person did towards the end

we'll likely get it next week

folks are showing improvement with their dps, but changes to their build and playstyle are gonna take a bit of time

its likely to go down next week honestly, but i figured its not the last boss were gonna need to dps check, and if i could find a way to make monk enjoyable

could make the sacrifice swap over for the one boss, but like ya cant really make it nice unless ya go super unoptimal

even then its not as fun as warrior or guardian druid

that has interactivity in their kit

[ionic fern]

You can ask around in Peak as well just in case but i doubt you'd get some secret answers there.

[oblique garnet]

on monk ? You just go full dps traits

[ionic fern]

If i were you i'd stay on warrior even for Ashvane.
You will lose out on all the essences/traits and gear.

[oblique garnet]

and cyclotronic

[pallid berry]

yea late it doenst make the class interesting

[ionic fern]

Since your monk isn't even up to date.

[pallid berry]

i can catch it up easily enough

[ionic fern]

If you don't enjoy the classes core mechanics then nothing will make it interesting tho.

[pallid berry]

minus certain traits

yea i think ive landed on that point

[oblique garnet]

its not worth to reroll right now

By the time you get essences setup

the tier will be over

[pallid berry]

eh apparently monks use crucible for everything

[oblique garnet]

yeah but you need null

[pallid berry]

which is ridiculous but

[oblique garnet]

warriors also use crucible for raid

[ionic fern]

^

[pallid berry]

i use visions

i like my procs

[ionic fern]

CoF will do a lot more .

[pallid berry]

plus i didnt know that

meh, i could go farm fury traits and be the most resident sleeper warrior build

for st

not to bag on folks that do it, but do ya just play another game on the other screen

[ionic fern]

Not while raid tanking, no.
You'll lose out on a TON of dps.

[pallid berry]

tell that to logs

[ionic fern]

Doing 30k+ on Ashvane vs doing like 15k.

[oblique garnet]

no tank rotation is particularly complex

[pallid berry]

i guess id call it reactionary more than anything

[ionic fern]

There's plenty of guilds who just want their tanks to just "survive" and be a meat shield but you as a tank should look beyond that if you want to improve.

[pallid berry]

im aware

ah well, least i can give up on monk

[next plover]

Besides I am pretty sure Prot is doing fine for raids and into 8.3

Like if you had a monk setup and ready to roll (pun intended) then maybe

But if you don't I doubt it would be worth it as you'll do more work just to get to the same point you're at now

[chilly brook]

@pallid berry I played monk for a majorify

Of the tier

It's boring

[next plover]

I guess people like monk since its more forgiving at times

[chilly brook]

Are you two tanking Ashvane?

[pallid berry]

yea

[oblique garnet]

Ngl id much rather tank azshara on monk than on warrior

[next plover]

Like you can pop iron brew and eat large chunks of damage to the face

[oblique garnet]

ashvane is one of the best fights for warrior tho

You can soak all of the bubbles with berserker rage

[pallid berry]

plus yall are missing the point, monk is so boring

i was trying to find a way to make it interesting

[next plover]

Well boring is a point of view though

[chilly brook]

I know

But there's not much to be done

It plays the same way in all situations

[next plover]

So? Many people seem to love havoc

[chilly brook]

Yes because it's not snooze mode

[pallid berry]

vengeance/havoc i can see why folks like it

[next plover]

I find it to be boring hence why its subjective to say X is boring compared to Y :/

[chilly brook]

And there are ways to stand out as havoc

You can sit there as a monk and do nothing and compared to a monk who's using isb there's not a huge difference

[oblique garnet]

theres a difference between monk playing correctly and monk doing bare minimum

it shows in the damage meter

[chilly brook]

Yes there is

[oblique garnet]

its the same with every tank

[chilly brook]

It's the same with everything

You not playing correctly shows on the meters

But you not playing a monk correctly hardly matters in this expansion

Your healer just picks up the slack

[oblique garnet]

I mean not playing monk correctly gets you kicked from guilds

[next plover]

Like I said from a tank perspective they are more forgiving in that they can buy time to handle that extra damage they might take for example

[chilly brook]

I mean

You're not gonna tell me monk is interesting in current iteration

[pallid berry]

theres def a difference in druid if ya not using ya mit vs monk

[ionic fern]

I'd imagine middle ground guilds don't really care about what the tank does as long as he stays alive.

[next plover]

^

[pallid berry]

and yet here i am

[chilly brook]

Old versions of monk were far more interesting both damage and mitigation wise

[next plover]

But then its been an issue where people lock on to the meta without grasping what makes it strong and expect to replicate the success of others

[pallid berry]

they want 5%

its that simple

[oblique garnet]

i mean yeah

if you have melee dps

[pallid berry]

our big damage folks are 4/5 melee

[next plover]

Completely ignoring anything else that might be a bigger problem

[oblique garnet]

5% physical is good

you cant get it from anything else than monk

[chilly brook]

Monk is legit a class that got pruned to hell

[ionic fern]

You can...if they optimize their rotation/learn their class properly..which most people don't. 👀

[sharp rover]

Does ignore pain reduce magic damage?

[chilly brook]

And oversimplified because blizz didn't like that it had low representation

Re

[pallid berry]

no it doesnt stones

[chilly brook]

Read the tooltip

[pallid berry]

it doesnt reduce any damage

its a shield

like an absorb shield

[ionic fern]

I think his question was if IP works on magic damage.
Yes it does @sharp rover

[pallid berry]

for a portion of the damage ya take

[sharp rover]

The tooltip doesn't specify physical damage

[pallid berry]

well it just absorbs any damage, so i guess yes

[chilly brook]

It says it absorbs damage

C'mon now

[pallid berry]

but the way ya phrased it made it sound like ya expected it to work like shield block

[sharp rover]

It's a hybrid of a DR and an absorb shield Xoroy*

[chilly brook]

Use your reading comprehension

No it's just a flat absorb

[pallid berry]

doesnt reduce incoming damage

well

it does

but not like

shield wall would

[sharp rover]

It's 50% DR up to a cap, and the cap functions like an absorb

[chilly brook]

It's just an absorb though only difference is its only effective on half the damage up to a cap

[sharp rover]

It's not like a regular absorb because 50% damage still goes though

[chilly brook]

But like its still not a dr

[sharp rover]

I understand that mechanic guys, I just wanted to know if it worked on physical damage. I hear people say that prot warriors get demolished by magic damage, but if you're putting out 60k+ ignore pains every GCD it seems like you'd handle magic damage pretty decently

[chilly brook]

Rage generation is a thing

[next plover]

also don't forget you can spell reflect some stuff

[pallid berry]

spell reflect is great even if it doesnt bounce spells

[chilly brook]

And magic damage is typically far higher than physical since it's not reduced by anything in our toolkit besides SR

[pallid berry]

20% spell damage reduction is nice

[chilly brook]

So that IP gets eaten pretty fast

[sharp rover]

[chilly brook]

That being said we're not horrible at magic but we're not the kings of it either

Better than bear

[pallid berry]

i feel like bear does slightly better from what ive played, only cause of barkskin and self healing

[chilly brook]

I'd even say monks are probably better than we are at sustained magic tbh

[pallid berry]

i mean they get zen med and stagger so yea

[chilly brook]

Plus healers get increased healing to offset the extra damage intake

Tbh though zen med is almost a non factor

Get auto'd far too often

And the CD is atrocious

[pallid berry]

i mean, back when i used bm i used zen med for the zul drops

it was pretty great

or soaking the pools in a pinch

i imagine ya find uses for it

[oblique garnet]

its good for soaking pools on orgozoa when you dont have the debuff

[chilly brook]

The only time ive used it this tier is to soak the 3 zoatroids we have on transition for org

[pallid berry]

yea ive done that with last stand

well 2

i had the buff for the first

[chilly brook]

Chi torpedo down the ramp side to get to the bottom asap have dps blow them up and then zen med

[pallid berry]

monks feel like they have a cool frame of a class

[chilly brook]

But for periods of high magic damage (say queens court when you're tanking what's her nuts outside of the bubble) it's useless because it gets canceled immediately

[pallid berry]

like id give it a slight chance if blackout combo was ingrained and maybe there was more interactivity with mitigation

wait thats magic damage?

[chilly brook]

Because they did have a cool ass class design and concept

But blizz gutted the shit out of it

[pallid berry]

huh i could spell reflect that, but is it better then sending back the bolts

[chilly brook]

Most likely yes

200k ticks

[pallid berry]

thus far ive just last standed, usually back up or close to by next time

[chilly brook]

That's a 40k reduction for like 2

Especially if you happen to be outside of the bubble and have obey or suffer super worth

Give me chi back

Give me blackout kick back

Give me guard back (the old one not this bastardized version in the talent tree)

[pallid berry]

just gimme interactivity with how i mitigate damage more then just pressing 2 buttons

ok but the new one is also kinda cool

[chilly brook]

Make purifying coat me a chi

[pallid berry]

i like that better as a concept

[chilly brook]

Give me jab back

[pallid berry]

jab is just tiger palm tho

aint it

[chilly brook]

No

[pallid berry]

like blackout kick is like strike

[chilly brook]

Tiger palm used to be a buff

[pallid berry]

also old guard was busted

beyond belief wasnt it

[chilly brook]

An armor penetration buff

Blackout kick was a chi spender

That gave you shuffle

A dodge buff

[pallid berry]

so blackout strike, but no ki spending

which gives you elusive brawler, a dodge buff

id like ki back, give ya something to do

[chilly brook]

And no guard wasn't busted at all

[pallid berry]

if i remember right guard was good as hell

i like the new version, its neat and interacts with stagger

[chilly brook]

Even at its strongest, monk wasn't the top tier tank

[pallid berry]

just wish it didnt last as little as it did

[chilly brook]

And guard interacted with stagger as well in the old version lol

It was just useful for more than just stagger

And you'd actually have to purify more in the old version of brm tbh

We also had kiting tools with dizzying brew

Statue was baseline

We could actually have a dps cooldown with serenity.....

Oh and we also had touch of death which used to cost chi

Not to mention we didn't have ISB (so no ridiculous "teehee I can afk and have no chance of dying") because stagger wasn't as powerful as it is now

You actually had to build elusive brew stacks and think about when to use it since it was only 1 second of 45% dodge per stack consumed

Sorry for blowing up the chat but I've never forgiven blizz for gutting the class going from WoD to Legion @pallid berry

[pallid berry]

May have noticed

[chilly brook]

I'd say the only monk spec that came through net positive was WW

But that's just mainly because I didn't like having all my dps tied go tiger eye brew

[smoky cloak]

https://raider.io/characters/eu/soulflayer/Стриппедфулл
Hello guys, first time i go in PVE gaming and in keys
Now i'm stuck in item upgrading, try to spam SOTS, Ataldazar,SOB and TOS but needed azerite items didn't drop.
I try to go in normal raid but know tact so bad and we wipe few times on 6th boss.

I wonna end all 10th keys before 8.3, how i can boost my ilvl fast for tis

[sick sentinel]

Well you can't get azerite from M+ only from M0

[smoky cloak]

ehm

😄

[ionic fern]

You should be able to do 10's with even that ilvl tbh.
For ilvl upgrades m+/NM raid is your go-to for now.

[smoky cloak]

tis items can't drop from keys?
https://www.wowhead.com/item=159430/helm-of-abyssal-malevolence&bonus=4817:1512
https://www.wowhead.com/item=159431/kraken-shell-pauldrons&bonus=4817:1512
https://www.wowhead.com/item=159424/desert-guardians-breastplate&bonus=4817:1512

my items enough for 10 key?

i'm just newbie in tanking and pve at all don't wonna fail all keys for guys

[oblique garnet]

Those items dont drop from m+ no

[smoky cloak]

how can i get them? only from weekly chest?

[ancient mulch]

no

You can get them from the residuum vendor

[smoky cloak]

O_O i collect 5200 res from 3 weeks

[ionic fern]

You get more residuum the higher keys you do.

[ancient mulch]

Yup

[smoky cloak]

i must try go 10 key?

[ionic fern]

PReferably yes.

[ancient mulch]

a 10 gives like 17k

[smoky cloak]

wow mommy

with nice dd party 8th key was so easy

but with low dps party it often horrible in +6

we did SOTS for +2 and few deaths

[ancient mulch]

You will most likely end up having to buy random pieces though, so getting the right ones can be tricky

[smoky cloak]

and spam 10th key

okey i will try

difference between +8 and +10 so big or not?

[ancient mulch]

well spam and spam, you get residuum once every week, so it isn't exactly spammable, however you will get better gear on average from 10s

Beguiling comes at 10

[smoky cloak]

and as i see in guides that mobes must be hardfocused

[ancient mulch]

depends on which one it is

[oblique garnet]

just be wary of some teeming packs with tides emissaries this week since they can cause your hp to drop from 100 to 0 real quick

[ancient mulch]

Enchanted needs to be pushed away from the mobs you are killing by ranged preferably, Void needs to be focused since it deals huge AoE dmg to the group, it can be dodged by hiding though, tides makes mobs CC and interrupt immune so you gotta kill that fast as well

Yeah that as well

You can CC the tides as well in some cases however CC only lasts a maximum of 8 secs on it

and then drag the mobs you have to tank out of its range, then they become CC and interruptable

[smoky cloak]

thx for tips ry to test it in game

sounds so easy

but in practice:D

anyway thx🙏

[ancient mulch]

Sounds easy sure, but it is pretty annoying to deal with, I believe it is the most hated seasonal affix so far

[brittle owl]

nah

ghuunies were way bad

[strong forum]

Infested was worse, agreed

Cuz you could straight up rip the entire key with 1 fucked ghuunie running away

[ancient mulch]

I think some of the shit from Ghuunies also came from getting used to playing the dungeons right as well

At least in my opinion

[brittle owl]

context plays a role, true

[strong forum]

Well ghuunies can snowball like crazy

[ancient mulch]

Yeah for sure they could

[brittle owl]

way dungeons are run now vs s1 is significantly different

[strong forum]

Not to mention shitton of nerfs

[ancient mulch]

It is way worse if you are bad at dealing with ghuunies than any other seasonal so far

[oblique garnet]

ghuunies was better compared to beguiling imo

[brittle owl]

meh

we can all agree though

reaping was the best

[strong forum]

^

[ancient mulch]

It was the best in terms of dealing with, and it was also fun as well, which should be what it is about I think

Let the seasonal affixes be more flavor than added difficulty

[brittle owl]

oh it had added difficulty as well

if you really wanted to min max you had the option of proccing it in specific points, pulling it with something else to either enable higher boss damage or just for efficiency

it had a low entry bar and a high ceiling

and that's a very rare thing

[ancient mulch]

Sure, but one of the good things about reaping was the huge wow factor it had in terms of blasting it down and so on, it added difficulty for sure, but it was way more fun having this big pack you had to blast down instead of having to bounce some transparent chick away from a pack

It made it fun to have

[brittle owl]

erm she is actually quite opaque and very pale tyvm

living under the sea for 10000 years does that to you

[graceful sundial]

The only thing I loved from infested was the sound of ghunnies death.

[brittle owl]

there's nothing fun about crawling chlamidia

[autumn pendant]

Only fun thing about infested how out of hand some pulls got cause of it

[blazing condor]

Gotta love back in the day where ghuunies spread and then those spread and it was just a full pack getting 100% health back

[autumn pendant]

Wasnt fun time in m+ indeed

[ebon geyser]

Morning folks

[brittle owl]

but it's evening

[warm plinth]

Tell that to my clock

[tame garden]

Not EST

Fake timezone

[brittle owl]

get rekt nerd

[warm plinth]

Imagine living on the east coast

[tame garden]

Est is bEst

[warm plinth]

I'd rather live in the midwest where things are affordable

[brittle owl]

that's sounds an awful lot like poor people talk

[warm plinth]

Nah, just that the coasts are more expensive in the states

[tame garden]

It's not expensive where I live

I'm not on the coast or in the states tho

[warm plinth]

Oh no

You're not

Canadian are you

[tame garden]

🙂

[warm plinth]

I knew you were too nice -_-

[tame garden]

Unluck

[brittle owl]

oh shit an imaginary person

hello iSpeg

[ebon geyser]

CST best time zone

[tame garden]

😒

[warm plinth]

Damn straight

[undone sun]

im not too late am i

https://i.imgur.com/tkyMafb.png

[warm plinth]

https://tenor.com/usKc.gif

[undone sun]

😭

[brittle owl]

3-2 so EU still wins