I don't have nitro
#protection
strong forum
I do but doesn't work :)
undone sun
i mean, even if you did
strong forum
Only in #off-topic
undone sun
can't use them here
undone sun
pass
ionic fern
Improvise @undone sun
slim pier
i need to see it at least once
ionic fern
undone sun
slim pier
oblique garnet
No memes 🔨
slim pier
Shh
brittle owl
ionic fern
We need a better hammer picture. 😦
undone sun
nope
ionic fern
Nope.
undone sun
big incorrect
strong forum
:sad:
undone sun
not even TC
ionic fern
No one can.
brittle owl
:peeposad:
oblique garnet
only vel can
strong forum
:angery:
tame garden
undone sun
lol
strong forum
Look closer
mental scarab
Thats sense
strong forum
Took me a while too
mental scarab
🤓
slim pier
who is sense?
ionic fern
👀
slim pier
lets all tag him?
mental scarab
🥳
ionic fern
Don't annoy the poor man.
mental scarab
@shut summit
undone sun
Sam the Eagle as his avatar, which is also in 
slim pier
ok lets not
mental scarab
Pussy
oblique garnet
Now you done did it tagged sense smh
oblique garnet
Imagine if prot had some real moderation
undone sun
haHAA
brittle owl
imagine if prot was real
undone sun
rip Sal
brittle owl
slim pier
IMagine if Skyhold had real moderation
brittle owl
i can give you attention thyme
undone sun
guardian has constant mod attention 😏
brittle owl
just ask bby
ionic fern
😂
mental scarab
We clap and clap
undone sun
NA hours btw :kekw:
slim pier
NA lul
oblique garnet
What are eu or na hours
ionic fern
For Thyme they are the same thing cause he's always on.
undone sun
yup
brittle owl
smh ya'll mf's need UTC
slim pier
He probably lives on Mars
ionic fern
"are you on NA or EU hours?"
Thyme : Yes
brittle owl
wtf do you actually do for work thyme, you're on the weirdest hours
do you like
sleep only 3hrs/day
slim pier
He works for the CSI
ionic fern
My theory is that he built a AI that learns from his previous discord messages/reactions and then he uses that during the time he sleeps.
gaunt dawn
Dont
brittle owl
see
gaunt dawn
I'll ban you if you do
slim pier
what is HoW?
ionic fern
Fastest ban hammer EU in HoW Questions
brittle owl
instantaneous
merry socket
So due to damage causing you to loose stacks, OP is pretty bad for prot in m+ and raid yeah?
strong forum
It has and internal cd
brittle owl
don't even need to be in the disc
ionic fern
@merry socket no - it has a ICD.
slim pier
What is HoW
strong forum
Minimum uptime is 12 seconds
ionic fern
Hammer of Wrath - paladin discord.
strong forum
Hammer or wrath Paladin discord
slim pier
oh
undone sun
OP is very good, has a limit on how quick stacks drop
merry socket
tyty
strong forum
1 stack per second naturally, and 1 stack per second if you get perma attacked
So maximum is 2 stacks per second you lose
sick sentinel
If Guardian really had constant mod attention, I'd be banned.
undone sun
🤔
exotic spoke
@inland bolt sorry man, I was asleep. Honestly, most bosses have some time where you can clear pretty easily. I think jes howler is the exception and I’m fucking glad I’m a dwarf
strong forum
Jes you can reset during his cast assuming the smallies are dead
exotic spoke
I meant with the little shitty adds
Got to 50+ and then dwarfed
Thank god for dwarf
exotic spoke
I don’t mind this week. Not the best but not bad
That said, I don’t respect necrotic at all
frosty holly
Ye, running dwarf to. So nice to almost not have to care about it
strong forum
Just like bolstering
exotic spoke
Even before dwarf - I don’t respect it
warm plinth
I'm the same way on mine (mag'har) lol. I'm like hmm, I'm at 40 stacks and my HP is getting down there, guess I'll do something about it
stoic pilot
I’m ready to deal with necrotic, race changed off dwarf today so I’m curious how annoying it actually is to deal with without this racial that carries
brittle owl
it really is a non issue on woyer
woyer and paladin don't care for necrotic
rip dk/dh doe
gotta yeet at 20 stacks
exotic spoke
Pretty much
strong forum
This week was 1st week that I tanked as vdh on necrotic
Only to frantically find out you can't use glide whilst having necro stacks
Nice coding
Really great
stoic pilot
Is that what that was I thought my space bar broke during my weekly key lmao
warm plinth
Wait what? You can't glide with necrotic?
strong forum
Yup.
warm plinth
LUL. I never noticed that
sand egret
that seems....so strange
wooden radish
do you have a vod of it ?
brittle owl
^
sand egret
i feel like I was def doing that before...now I doubt everything
brittle owl
yeah i can't remember this interaction either
sand egret
you sure you weren't in like FH with that stupid debuff?
brittle owl
granted i just abuse the wings-right-before-you-land speed bost
wooden radish
i found reports from late 2018 that glide can be buggy but i don't remember any patch notes or fixes for it. 🤔
strong forum
No vod, but I'm 100% certain
sand egret
🤔
strong forum
I literally screamed in voice I can't glide
Spamming spacebar
For atleast 10sec straight
But as soon as necro dropped I could again
Maybe I bugged it out somehow else, but necro was defo some part of it
chilly brook
Necrotic is actually kinda aids on a dk
That being said tbh being a low ilvl dk is aids
wooden radish
being a dk period is aids. right @viral arch ?
chilly brook
I mean there are some enjoyable things about blood
Necrotic just isn't one of them
I was actually planning on gearing my dk up a bit this week just in case next tier is omegalul easy on dk for prog
But that would require me to rep grind
warm plinth
What essences do you even use on BDK
chilly brook
@strong forum I wonder if that's a recent bug like not being able to victory rush after killing the explosives because gliding worked in other weeks
brittle owl
CoF CnS Null
warm plinth
Oh, easy
chilly brook
I'd assume you'd want both null and lucid
brittle owl
undying major maybe, lucid maybe
warm plinth
Eh, it's overtuned a bit so I would imagine it'd hurt at 408, especially with a meh shield
warm plinth
Tank damage is pretty rough on some bosses and some trash
chilly brook
Make sure you have all the bot buffs
chilly brook
That's only 14%
brittle owl
that's more likely
warm plinth
You realize that's like 33k damage per second right lol. That's a lot for a normal mythic to require on a single target.
brittle owl
33k dtps isn't much 👀
warm plinth
On a normal mythic, sure it is
brittle owl
mechagon isn't exactly a normal mythic though
warm plinth
It's not if you're a full group of 440 players, but he's not
warm plinth
Yeah, the sledgehammers and shit are rough
And god forbid you get hit by bork
I'll pray for you
😄
brittle owl
almost all the trash in p1 mecha is yikes, mainly because group damage
and the scary bit in p2 is when you have 2x short out mobs
ya
after hk aerial unit
warm plinth
Eh I'd say mechanic check more like. If you don't use the defender shields in M+ the healer probably isn't keeping up
warm plinth
Like even a +10 fort key would probably be pretty rough to try to outheal
Considering the 45% base scaling
Which I'm really hoping to see more mecha nerfs before patch goes live
brittle owl
they already nerfed it by 50% on ptr afaik
warm plinth
Because it definitely needs more
brittle owl
yeah
warm plinth
Yeah, Kara was the same way though
warm plinth
But they actually ended up doing a fairly decent job once they went to M+
brittle owl
so it doesnt become a roflstomp
brittle owl
mecha is relevant atm for VoP and caster bracers for fire mages
next patch you'll see a whole lot of mages farming mecha for the bracere
warm plinth
Vision of Perfection
brittle owl
Vision of Perfection
warm plinth
Our preferred major of choice in M+
brittle owl
and a good major to have on like, half the classes
warm plinth
Nothing about Vision is RNG
Just make sure you learn the ranks as soon as you get them or the next one (or part of one) won't drop
brittle owl
@shut summit what was more aids, hk aerial unit or mechagon
warm plinth
Also don't be me and go into Mecha without doing the heart forge unlock. Because it won't drop then either 😂
shut summit
mechagon beam was 1shot, so
warm plinth
LUL
brittle owl
oof
warm plinth
We missed you Hyrja
brittle owl
does he have the hm minigame?
warm plinth
There's no fuckin way. That would be dumb af
brittle owl
or is it just normal mechanics
shut summit
poison boss / battle bots were close to unhealable without bwonsamdi buff
warm plinth
Good times
I feel like HK8 probably wouldn't be bad, since most of the damage on that fight is either tank damage or avoidable
Though I bet Wreck feels nice and tingly
shut summit
yea it hits hard af
warm plinth
They're splitting Mechagon in half in 8.3 to give it the Mythic+/heroic treatment, just like Kara
That's what we're talking about Bagelz
Did they give the wings cool names Sense? Or is it just Upper Mecha and Lower Mecha?
shut summit
junkyard for outside, up to hk8
tame garden
outer/inner mechagon afaik
shut summit
workshop for battlebots to mechagon
warm plinth
Ah cool. I was hoping they'd put a little effort into it lol. Upper/Lower would be meh
sand egret
Inner/Outer or bust
sand egret
starting thinking about gross affix combos in mechagon and things that come to mind:
- Trogg boi on necro week
- Slime boi on quaking week
- If explosives spawn from the stupid orbs on King Boi
- Kujo with grevious or quaking
warm plinth
Eh, unless Blizz fucks up (possible), we shouldn't get explosives from the orbs on Mechagon. We don't get them from actual targetable mobs on Unbound Abomination or w/e his name is in UR, and you can't even target the orbs on Mecha
The rest of those are fuckin spot on though. Especially slime boi on quaking
That's gonna be awful
shut summit
we did them with quaking, it sucked ass on slime boss with only 3 circles to avoid the poison coming in / out
strong forum
We used to, ghash
warm plinth
Yeah I know. I'm just giving them the benefit of the doubt that they've learned their lesson
strong forum
And I fully expect blizzard to miss the scaling, and alot of affixes
shut summit
hafta line yourself in a line not in the circle cuz the bot just eats the puddle
strong forum
Fuck up with bursting
shut summit
quaking on dog boss with hiding behind box sucked too
warm plinth
Yeah, especially since you have to almost be up the box's ass
strong forum
I fully expect for mechagon to be near impossible on actual keys for atleast a couple weeks
sand egret
quaking should be doable if you stack linearly
just gotta tank the boss at a good angle
for Kujo. I bet the balls on King will spawn a shit load of volcanoes tho
shut summit
the box hitbox on kujo for being safe is smaller than a quaking circle
cant line up at all
sand egret
could you tank the boss right in front of the boss (post-dispel) and stack in a line directly behind the boss?
box*
shut summit
right, line didnt work
sand egret
dang
sand egret
🤔
exotic spoke
Catching up on the conversation - yeah some of the boss damage will have to be tuned IMO for mechagon
sand egret
I think there's spots in the arena itself that can be used to LoS (i know this is how my guildies did it when they didn't understand the box mechanic when it first came out lol), so I wonder if the strat is going to be boss placement in a designated area with ranged using those LoS points
sand egret
rip lol
flat jackal
Can we really spell reflect cyclone strike from the first boss of TOS?
shut summit
yes
flat jackal
Whaaaaaaaaat? Do you have to stand right in front of him?
And can you reflect all 5 of the tornados or just one?
sand egret
yes and yes
flat jackal
I heard that it won’t work if the prot warrior is targeted
sand egret
only works if you're not the target
flat jackal
Ah ha
sand egret
yeah
sand egret
basically right in front
strong forum
Several million on higher keys
flat jackal
Melee range?
sand egret
yeah as close as you can get it
flat jackal
@strong forum no frikkin way
sand egret
careful if you're in his hitbox cuz then they can register as back hits
flat jackal
That’ll save so much time
distant crystal
I've heard talk of pulling that crazy pack into the boss
flat jackal
Ah, I never tanked in uldir so Idk
strong forum
There was a bug just like that on ghuun, you could reflect the malignous growth explosions
warm plinth
Doesn't matter if it's a back hit though; Spell Reflect doesn't care which part of your body the spell hits 🤔
warm plinth
I've literally reflected spells while running away from people
distant crystal
it doesn't lol
strong forum
Cuz sometimes you can get twice in the same second and only the first reflect would reflect
distant crystal
it's the timing
warm plinth
Yeah it's the timing
strong forum
Ah I misread
warm plinth
It's really not something you have to think a lot about. Just strafe in front of him, plant yourself, SR, and you're done. I think more people fuck up because they overthink it than anything else
flat jackal
This is new. I’m going to try it out
strong forum
They stand in shitty spots or move
warm plinth
Yeah
distant crystal
you also gotta be careful that your reflect doesn't get yoinked by the other boss's cast
strong forum
I thought you meant standing in such a spot that you get hit in the front and also in the back, resulting in the back hit not reflecting and you dying ghash
sand egret
well, specifically if the hit registers on the back of your hitbox while some register on the front, that could be the delay to cause them to not reflect all
strong forum
It helps
warm plinth
Idk I think I'm the only person that interrupts jolt in our runs, and that's mostly because it gives me fury XD And only if I'm close enough that I don't have to fuck with positioning to do it
distant crystal
focus kicking helps a ton on that
so you don't accidentally melee from target kicking
flat jackal
On 21+ tyrranical, you have to interrupt or your group will be destroyed
warm plinth
The really dangerous thing is the conduction/static shock combo 😦
distant crystal
and commit sodoku
warm plinth
FeelsBad to get hit by conduction then 1.5 seconds later a static shock
Yeah I can see that; on 18 tyr it hits for 124k on average on my DH, and that's with all muh vers
distant crystal
and tattoos
sand egret
does havoc get tattoos?
sand egret
ook
distant crystal
btw mr dh main
why do i randomly get booped forward for no apparent reason
it's like a glide on the ground for no reason sometimes
distant crystal
i don't have glide bound
acoustic sparrow
is C&S minor worth the effort? Is there a solid alternative?
brittle owl
cns is worth the almost 0 effort
you don't lose rating until 1.4k
at which point you can just conwuest cap
acoustic sparrow
don't you have to get to like 1600? Figured that would be tedious.
brittle owl
5 weeks, done
distant crystal
1600 for 5 per week
brittle owl
1.6k is easy as well, it's just 3 weeks at that rating
distant crystal
i don't have it on warr yet
i kinda want it for the major tho
i hear it's neat on tides week
p much permaroots the tides just out of melee, and potentially just out of z axis for its aura on rest of the pack
brittle owl
the vers you gain is often understated
limpid pawn
lol, they gotta revamp mythic + a little bit and also pvp arena
the higher M+ community is extremely toxic
and I think it's because of the design of how M+ works
distant crystal
i wonder if i can grind 22K honor in comp stomp on warrior today
without going insane
is 5 r3 botes too much?
@limpid pawn in what way
limpid pawn
well, there's absolutely no punishment for just ruining a key and leaving
keys are easily depleted due to mistakes, and people generally leave the very second one is not possible to time
it creates a system where basically people spend time grouping up, getting there, a mistake or two happens, then one asshole says "this key is done, I'm out"
distant crystal
i mean generally at higher key levels people aren't interested in spending an extra hour finishing up a scuffed key just for some loot
distant crystal
if it gets scuffed toward the end people usually finish
limpid pawn
raider io makes it so that there isn't much you get for doing a depleted key. people just leave
i'm saying that entire system is what creates this toxicity
distant crystal
i don't think that's necessarily a bad thing
limpid pawn
it is
limpid pawn
it's good if you have a good group with all good players
bad if you are mingling and trying out different groups
sand egret
the prestige/reasons for leaving are very much not-a-blizzard created thing
limpid pawn
which is most people
distant crystal
there's the blacklist channel on the M+ community discords :p
limpid pawn
think of it in the big picture though
distant crystal
for people that are throwing keys and generally being toxic
limpid pawn
for most of the wow community which consists of average level players or below average
distant crystal
but they're not gonna blacklist for just ditching a key that's scuffed
limpid pawn
the system can be greatly improved is all
sand egret
but most of that community isn't doing those keys
sand egret
also, a social construct
"low keys" isn't a +12
not in terms of how the game proper is designed
it is socially, now. but in terms of M+ in its current state +15s is where the "official" incentives stop
limpid pawn
lol... i really think they should revamp it just a bit
also for arena, make a fucking solo queue already
sand egret
sure, i can respect that ask
distant crystal
what's toxic is when somebody ditches a key and you finish it 4man
and notice 1 less piece of loot at the end
limpid pawn
yes that's also toxic and they receive credit
distant crystal
kek
sand egret
but pinning it on player behavior based on a 3rd party system and saying it's blizz's fault is a little misconstrued
if they integrating a rating system into the game itself, then it falls in their court
limpid pawn
well... it's also on blizzard because they can totally control incentives better
if you got something significant for just finishing a higher key
such as loot scaling all the way to +25's even
sand egret
you do, just not as high as players currently push
limpid pawn
or even some non-combat shit like some elite ass transmogs dropping
distant crystal
i'd rather just call it
limpid pawn
then less people would do that
distant crystal
than slog through a 90 death key
mental scarab
🤥
empty nacelle
i think the mount/transmog reward system is a bit saturated at this point
limpid pawn
ok, think of it like partial credit
sand egret
the incentive to do high keys for many....is to complete them
limpid pawn
a system that is "ALL OR NOTHING" is bad
sand egret
for prestige
limpid pawn
in my opinion
sand egret
as long as that exists, people will optimize how they get there
distant crystal
i mean there's still the incentive of a ton of loot drops that can forge
limpid pawn
nooo, but if you are just trying for that then you wuold just spam m10s
distant crystal
not really
limpid pawn
the incentive difference for m10 vs m15 is slightly more loot with huge added difficulty
and anything beyond m15 doesn't exist
that is the problem. just create more incentive for above 15
distant crystal
hard disagree
limpid pawn
extra loot, extra transmog, extra something
tame garden
you get extra loot
sand egret
you do get extra loot lol
distant crystal
but they should add "the depleter" title
limpid pawn
an 18 gives more loot than 15?
sand egret
yep
tame garden
1 more piece
distant crystal
for depleting a bunch of keys
every key level above 10 is 40% chance for an extra piece
3 levels is guaranteed extra piece + 20% for another extra
etc
5 levels is 2 extra gtd
limpid pawn
oh, didn't know it kept going above 15s
empty nacelle
titan residuum from chest stops at 15 right? or no?
sand egret
if you really wanna stop leaving you create lock-outs for keys and I dont think anyone wants that
distant crystal
lockouts would be so toxic
can't practice keys at all
i think if people leave a key group they shouldn't be loot eligible
but if you kick em they should
i get the idea, don't want people getting kicked when last boss is 1% to yoink all their loot
or maybe like, if they leave with <50% of bosses dead and/or 50% of enemy forces, they're ineligible
limpid pawn
loot eligibility is good
empty nacelle
might need to be harsher? i dont know
maybe ineligible for that dungeon and the next one you complete that day. if you plan to continue playing you can just blast through a lower key and the punishment is gone, but you've at least had to do something (besides wait until the daily reset). similar to the low priority concept in dota, but not quite as harsh.
distant crystal
idk
there's good reasons to leave keys sometimes that shouldn't warrant punishment
i guess they could do the safe to leave thing like dota too tho
like if other people have 10 deaths or smth
empty nacelle
not a bad idea
all i know is once i got into low prio for dota, i never ever wanted to go back lol
analog zinc
do you think lucid major would be really good for island spam?
distant crystal
no?
warm plinth
Yeah I run anima too
strong forum
You by no means need the leech
distant crystal
i quit doing islands at 65 :p
analog zinc
i bought a pvp island carry on my fresh resto shaman & we lost 2 games with a prot war tank
distant crystal
maybe i should finish up 70 and start capping for gold
analog zinc
he would pull big & just die
strong forum
Well the tank sucks then
mental scarab
👀
distant crystal
he was trying his best :*(
strong forum
Still bad
mental scarab
We are like BDK healing 90000 on isle
analog zinc
imagine selling a carry, & your carry comes prepared with fuckin rabbit charms, healing y'all in pulls you can't survive
& you still lose twice
strong forum
That's the big brain pepega
distant crystal
someone wanted me to tank m+ carries last night
i'm broke af so i was excited
then i found out it was frostmourne gold
analog zinc
yikes dude
distant crystal
did a 360 and got outta there
empty nacelle
360
empty nacelle
thats fair
warm plinth
I’ll be honest I would prefer basically any tank besides a prot war for PvP islands
All it takes is for you to get one of the magic heavy mob sets and it’s rough to pull huge. Whereas any other tank can just self heal through it.
Though tbh with a prot war i would probably just bring a healer and pull massive since you can kill shit fast on your own
sick sentinel
Didnt there use to be a spreadsheet pinned with all blockable and spellreflectable abilities in dungeons?
ebon hound
its in #268491842637660160
strong forum
You don't need a healer on islands.
surreal tendon
hey guys, i remember theres a toy flag/banner that can be placed on the ground and prot can intercept to it, whats it called?
tame garden
distant crystal
hope ya got some cloud serpent rep
vague badge
Anima, Aegis of the Deep and Lucid Dreams are okay for the beginning until i get the correct ones farmed up?
sick sentinel
Is there a weakaura to know how much overall damage ive done with spell reflection at the end of a dungeon?
west galleon
vop is really easy to get
ionic fern
Jeah, they are better than nothing @vague badge . I guess you're talkking m+?
vague badge
yeah
west galleon
@sick sentinel details/recount or w/e don't count reflect damage afaik
vague badge
VoP is on my todo list, i just got my ass handed by the trash there, 397 ilvl was really hard for a newb 
@west galleon
west galleon
fair
warm plinth
@sick sentinel The only way you can see spell reflect damage is to log your run and check the damage an enemy did to itself on the log. No damage meters reflect it because they're not really set up for it.
distant crystal
the makers of details clearly don't play protwarr
or it would include it in your dmg tbh
sand egret
or they do and they excluded it because seeing that visually accounted for would cause so much visibility into an otherwise invisible asset
distant crystal
damn 4d chess
sand egret
imagine if dps classes could actually see the 800k + hits you can get from SR. They'd be whining so hard about how OP prot is more so than just the MDI enthusiasts
sweet summit
Rixxa is a bitch.
Thanks for comming to my ted-talk
warm plinth
She's a nice lady Rosjen
chilly brook
Man I'm kinda bored
chilly brook
I'm at work
And it's a DH
It should be ez
Just do Korraks Revenge or w/e its called 4head @ebon geyser
ebon geyser
Is it quick? I'm 103
chilly brook
Very quick
warm plinth
It's like 1 1/2 levels or something per BG
chilly brook
Like 3 q's to go from 110-120
ebon geyser
Can I just afk
warm plinth
No, because people will report you
ebon geyser
Fml
ebon geyser
Lol
analog zinc
how 2 play arms
analog zinc
what if they run away
chilly brook
That's why you don't open with charge
warm plinth
What do you think Hamstring is for?
analog zinc
what if they shapeshift
warm plinth
You hamstring mid-shift so you tilt them and they /afk
analog zinc
can i get 2100 with that strategy
chilly brook
You hit them with a stun outside of shapeshift
olive sparrow
play double tank trinkets => profit
warm plinth
I thought we were talking about BGs
warm plinth
Well
proven stream
You can absolutely get 2100 with that strategy
warm plinth
I'm gonna say yes
Or if you want big lulz, play prot and laugh when resto druids try to kite you. You can feel the rage through the screen.
Especially when you catch them with a thunderstruck root mid-wild charge
It's hilarious
analog zinc
is prot actually ok in arena
chilly brook
Yes
warm plinth
Maybe if you're better than me, idfk lol. I was just doing to troll people on my way to 1400 for C&S
chilly brook
But you're playing the long game and you're a cc bot
west galleon
a good prot won't be much better than a mediocre arms/fury
tidal sleet
I mean with cyclo and iris you still can burst a bit. And you obviously can live lord
west galleon
if better at all
warm plinth
Can't use iris as a prot war
warm plinth
😄
chilly brook
Didn't really say it would be
sick sentinel
I can’t play arena without being toxic
chilly brook
If you're not toxic then are you even human? Only reptiles like Zuckerberg aren't toxic
sick sentinel
When playing arena if you lose you should always tell someone they suck and leave the group
chilly brook
Truuuueeeee
sick sentinel
Then, on cue, you will receive a wall of text explaining how bad you are at the game. You follow this by linking cutting edge to them which triggers them even more because it has no relevance
This is pvp in a nutshell
chilly brook
Lol
sick sentinel
Imagine queueing with a fury warrior who obviously mains prot and doesn’t pvp and expecting to win
L u l
viral arch
@chilly brook necrotic is actually nice on a DK
viral arch
not even being funny
we have the strongest slow in the game and we can bug it to perma-apply it
sick sentinel
Dk is for weak players next argument
strong forum
Nice 🙃
viral arch
nobody is disputing that one
sick sentinel
You think I’m elite : ‘ )
warm plinth
Man wouldn't it be nice to play a tank that doesn't have to rely on a bug to deal with necrotic? Oh wait :p
viral arch
- elite
- skyhold regular
pick one
west galleon
no i think you think you're elite xd
sick sentinel
I also choose the option that is not elite
The day I become elite in this game is the day I uninstall
Y’all ever walked into the beam three times in a row on azshara
Cause if so same
viral arch
should've backpedalled the third time
warm plinth
Imagine having done Azshara. Fuckin elitist
sick sentinel
Fuck I am elite
viral arch
like, "look, ma, I don't need to look where I go"
sick sentinel
I just yell that I spell reflected
Also got smoked by two consecutive beams in p4 at like 10%
warm plinth
BUT, they also serve as proof that I am not elite
sick sentinel
And he is, in fact, a parse machine
warm plinth
Fun fact, there was actually a rogue I think in my carry group named Parse. I didn't check how he did
But now I'm going to because it's important
sand egret
👀 did someone run into a jelly fish...
warm plinth
Those logs are literally the one and only time I've even seen those fights
warm plinth
I knew the concept of getting the pufferfish but didn't know if I'd fuck something up by getting it when I shouldn't, so I just died on purpose instead
sick sentinel
You are a martyr
warm plinth
Hey I got a 440 diver's folly so that 13% parse was worth it
sick sentinel
I recently began leveling a VDH named crankdaddy so watch for that man to top world meters in 8.3
warm plinth
I'm ready
distant crystal
Metacritic got his coral yesterday >:D
warm plinth
Then you'll graduate from elitist to elitist prick
distant crystal
still no follies rip
warm plinth
Is that your DH?
distant crystal
ye
warm plinth
I didn't get coral but heard it's kinda meh in M+ anyway. I did get a 435 inkpod though
Which tbh doesn't seem as great as I expected
sick sentinel
Coral is only really bad in m+ cause tanks do not possess the required brain wavelength to use it
warm plinth
👍
sick sentinel
I don’t think I have ran higher than a 12 in like 5 weeks
sick sentinel
I got s3 15+ achieve and afkd
warm plinth
Oh
My warrior only does like 10-12 each week anyway 🤷
Just going for the cache since my luck on him is busted
sick sentinel
I only ran the 15s for the residuum but now I just spend it on meme pieces
warm plinth
My HDH is just collecting residuum for the poor or something now
Already have the best I can do really, outside of mythic raiding
warm plinth
I didn't even do heroic raiding. I just tunneled every boss in that log 😂
And idk actually if I just did mechanics properly because they're actually just 100% common sense, or if I got insanely lucky
The world may never know
sick sentinel
No they are common sense
warm plinth
Tbh though the most complicated shit I had to do was on Azshara when I had to like...be away from people and avoid orbs or w/e the fuck
Which was semi-entertaining but very easy
sick sentinel
Yeah the decrees are complicated if not done properly
I was the worlds worst degree player
warm plinth
Idt I got any of the difficult ones. I got those two once, and then the other was just avoid orbs by itself
Which is obviously very easy
sick sentinel
I was not using the recommended WA so I never knew where to go. Often I found myself at 20 stacks
warm plinth
And I didn't do anything on Sivarra because they told us to just stand by a marker and not run into people, so I couldn't participate
sick sentinel
That is when you become toxic and run into people
warm plinth
I should have just spammed throw glaive to see what kind of parse that would get me
sick sentinel
I reckon around 8
sand egret
woulda still parsed higher than my dps
sick sentinel
What essence for pvp
sand egret
don't start infusing your heart....can't be said responsible for releasing an old god.....jus' sayin
warm plinth
Teleporting prot warrior, scariest thing in the world
sand egret
you can use it for funny pulls if you wanna pretend to be a monk
warm plinth
Why would I want to pretend to be an inferior tank
In my subjective opinion*
Blade when you kitty DPS do you have to turn your sound off because they fucked the SFX of your attacks super badly?
sick sentinel
I’m not sure how brewmasters play with all the drool on their keyboards
sand egret
nope
sand egret
i dont even notice it anymore
sick sentinel
If you turn off any noises in game you are eliminating the immersion
warm plinth
I can't play without sound, so I have to deal with it anyway
I will never understand those people who are like omg I love the music in x zone
Because I had music turned off from literally day 1
sand egret
cuz the music is pretty legit lol
warm plinth
On October 12th, 2006, the first day I logged into WoW
sand egret
wow’s got a pretty good sound track tbh
warm plinth
One of the first things I did after spending 3 hours jumping around the Tauren starting area (because I couldn't jump in my last MMO), was turn off the music
sick sentinel
You chose TAUREN
warm plinth
I mean I don't dislike the music specifically. I just don't like music playing while I'm playing a game
sand egret
i was a troll lol
sick sentinel
I was also a troll
warm plinth
I can't listen to Spotify or anything like that either
sand egret
well its fine to be wrong
warm plinth
Says the feral druid
sick sentinel
Feral Druid is the sleeper of the century
warm plinth
Careful Hawgz, you're sounding elitist
sand egret
hey i enjoy beating people and watching their brains explode
warm plinth
tbf it was the same in Legion. You'd get that one feral who actually learned how to play his spec well and be like wait, what
sick sentinel
sand egret
people’s reactions are great not gonna lie
sick sentinel
The reason this game still has me hooked is seeing people’s reactions to bonkers stuff
Also low rating RBGs as tank
warm plinth
We had 5 tanks in a comp stomp earlier. It was funny as hell
sand egret
ive had people tell me it was because “feral just got buffed”
warm plinth
Btw do you know how awesome it is to tank the entire enemy team as a prot war?
It's really fun
sand egret
like they dropped some ninja patch no one vbut them knew of
warm plinth
Do you laugh out loud Blade?
sick sentinel
It is excellent. I have a holy paladin in a poke ball in my pocket for emergencies
warm plinth
Since feral is probably the least changed spec in history
sand egret
i went along with it and made up bullshit patch notes
sand egret
it was more like “yeah they gave us this new talent primal wrath, it’s wild!”
warm plinth
Ahahahaha
tbh I had to look that up because I didn't know wtf you were talking about. I feel kind of ashamed that I'm so tuned out of feral after playing it for like 6 years
sand egret
had another group last night actually turn to their boomie friend and just were like “you should be ashamed”
warm plinth
lul
sand egret
yeah i started doing heroic reclears recently and my entire raid group is very confused
warm plinth
But can you rock the blues and purps like me? Don't worry if you can't; I'm hard to live up to
😏
sand egret
purps baby!
warm plinth
Awwww yiss
sand egret
i convinced them to let me go into delirium realm this week, instantly turned and unloaded on my GM to kick him out of it. Highlander rules, bitch. Was very worth.
sand egret
yeah shitty warlock had nothing on me
i pulled a Chapelle after “uh...I didnt know I couldnt do that....”
warm plinth
Blade confirmed is the kurgen
junior ivy
hi
exotic spoke
Hi catfriend
sick sentinel
hi riki
warm plinth
Hi Banshee
tame garden
hi ghash
warm plinth
No one wants to say hi to Speg 😢
exotic spoke
Hi @tame garden
last gazelle
Not a cc heavy group, Disc priest, Spriest, DH, ass Rogue. Would it be worth CNS major for a 19 KR?
analog zinc
i riki
warm plinth
@last gazelle What do you think you're getting out of that? Like for necrotic resets or? Because tbh the mobs you would have issues resetting on aren't rootable anyway (constructs, the big dudes in 1st room I'm pretty sure can't be rooted). Anything else I think a shockwave/heroic leap should do the trick
last gazelle
My main thought was for embalming room to get them all. As well as after first boss where the adds spawn in rotation, the like 6man pack
And possibly to keep berserkers at a better range when I get scared as fuck of bleed
warm plinth
You can kite the slimes in Mchimba's room with no CC at all; the slimes move slow by default
last gazelle
So most likely stick with visions major for the damage
And save CNS for a dungeon like FH
warm plinth
Well, vision helps with surviving too
last gazelle
Yeah yeah
warm plinth
If you have Bastion
last gazelle
Course I do
warm plinth
The only really shitty part in FH is the first area since you can't really skip it this week
And enforcers can't be CCed effectively
Which again wouldn't be helped by C&S because they can't be rooted
last gazelle
Also trying to find the play style of what the top warriors are doing with it as a major
hollow sluice
I dont find CNS any good against necrotic. By the time you clap 3 times, it doesn't root anymore. Is root on DR?
proven stream
You have perma crippling poison, should be plenty in kr
warm plinth
I would imagine they're using it for the effect on the minor with R3
Because if you interrupt or CC something you get double the vers from the minor for 5 seconds
sand egret
@hollow sluice AFAIK it doesn't DR, but it also doesn't apply if the target has >= a 30% slow
last gazelle
So you think they are taking it for the extra vers against the reduce healing, and the root is just a nice bonus?
hollow sluice
I had Sphere of Suppression minor so there was a 30% slow, maybe thats why. I will try again without Sphere of Suppression
warm plinth
I think they're doing massive pulls that probably don't apply to most of us and they're doing it for a turtle-type of thing
Yeah it's because of sphere
C&S minor won't work if the mob has the sphere slow
Er, major
Certain specs do 30% or higher slows too, like frost mage blizzard/frozen orb
last gazelle
Gotcha gotcha, would make sense, also trying to find out their pulls to, so i can get value out of it
sterile mantle
Looking to smooth my warrior out going into 8.3/ Hes currently Pandaren. I know next raid tier there will be a bit of Shadow and magic damage. Has anyone tested Mechagnome racials or would Worgen, Draeni or Void Elf be better to smooth shadow DMG.
Havent been on test server much
analog zinc
races wont increase your magic survivability by anything meaningful
autumn pendant
True
warm plinth
There's literally never been a time where a damage reducing racial has made any difference at all in progression success. Play whatever race you want.
autumn pendant
Def not worth switching to something like Worgen for shadow resist
sterile mantle
just didnt know if id benefit from being something other than pandaren
distant crystal
play dorf
sterile mantle
I run Prot main with arms off
outer dew
Wdym
distant crystal
stoneform saves lives
autumn pendant
I think trolls made big difference
warm plinth
If you really wanted you could just eat vers food and that'd get you close to that reduction anyway probably
outer dew
Stone form op
autumn pendant
In BoD
analog zinc
racials only matter in m+
autumn pendant
for world first racers only
analog zinc
dwarf is good
autumn pendant
KR suddenly becomes so good
warm plinth
What damage reduction racial do trolls even have?
autumn pendant
None but they racial made stacking of debuff on Jaina fight much better for Method
outer dew
Lmao. This dude is just going
sterile mantle
Has anyone tested mechagnomes as prot at all
autumn pendant
iirc
outer dew
"Big dam"
autumn pendant
Think as troll you got 1 less stack for some reason
but that is just extreme exemple
warm plinth
I was referring purely to damage reduction racials; there have been instances of racials being impactful in prog. Just not damage reduction racials.
Look at Rocket Jump on Kil'jaeden prog
distant crystal
warm plinth
Was virtually mandatory early on
distant crystal
kek
autumn pendant
I cant remember anything regarding dmg reduction
so prob yea, only dmg ones mattered in past
or utility ones
ebon geyser
if my heirloom cap at 110 can i still use it for the % until 120?
warm plinth
No, they have to be upgraded to the increased cap for the XP increase to function
west galleon
yes
near ivy
@autumn pendant trolls have a racial that reduces the duration of slows
when coming out of 2nd intermission it made them drop stacks so they had 1 less iirc
autumn pendant
Yeah something along those lines
near ivy
look at the stacks of (basically anyone) then look at the stacks of narco and the dh
everybody except (classes who cant be trolls) dropped the single stack
then right after that
autumn pendant
Yes , was big deal for world first race and amount of healing dropped significantly
near ivy
everybody on one stack, pala/dh on two
each stack was 2k hps raidwide
18 people got a 1stack reduction
36k hps
for the FULL phase
autumn pendant
I admire your precision and persistence
wheat talon
should I do 50 haste over 80 strength on gems?
exotic spoke
Why wont IO Update >.>
@wheat talon You should use both strength gems and then the rest haste gems
ionic fern
Gratz. 
onyx vessel
Only at 1032 as prot im slacking been dpsing them too much new guild doesnt do m+
sweet summit
Grats riki!!
sweet summit
Ok
Why?
sick sentinel
What race should I make my warrior gamers? Just transferred it Horde.
sweet summit
Belf master race
sick sentinel
1% haste looking juicy. I'm sure @exotic spoke would agree
frosty ridge
make it whatever looks best, because if you hate how it looks, no racial is gonna make playing it enjoyable