#protection
surreal stump
grim nymph
Do the last 2 bosses of motherlode melee at all?
sand relic
near ivy
pull 3 was on the ele shaman
warm plinth
@grim nymph No. The only physical damage for either of them is the Drill Smash on last boss
Which can be blocked if you face him
grim nymph
huh. like KJ meteors then lol
near ivy
pull 2 1:15 was on resto druid
warm plinth
Yeah basically lol
near ivy
pull 2 1:55 was on shadow priest
ok wait
pull 4 2:35 100% targeted you
with 0 dead players
surreal stump
RIGHT? and one showed some other targeted but i had the debuff i forget what pull
they were like why wasnt that charge in place, i was like fuck if i know i never had to know where to go lol
so now i have a list
i just figured id give a heads up cause that is new lol
surreal stump
i use haste cause i enjoy it, and i be damned im making feasts for everyone lol
but str is prolly best
barren crow
Yo whats up peeps. So looking into tanking (mainly for m+) never played a tank before
hows prot looking now and 8.3. any insight helps
between prot war and brew monk but leaning more towards war
warm plinth
Looking just fine thus far. Might be top again actually with brew's self-healing getting nerfed
Well, fixed rather, not nerfed
barren crow
top for raid or m+?
barren crow
gotcha
warm plinth
Plus there's the part where warrior isn't super fuckin dull
barren crow
i was 2.2k season two on a warlock. took a break this season. looking to push keys again next season but want to tank
ive heard prot rotation is boring. true ?
warm plinth
Who in the world said prot rotation was boring? Like, I get that fun is subjective but how tf lol
barren crow
two of my buddies who have dabbled with warrior said it lol im clueless on tanking so figured this is the best place to ask
quiet crane
Prot has got more then 2 buttons to press
And actually requires CD usage
Way more engaging and fun compared to the others
barren crow
i was gonna go prot pally cuz i liked the name i got but war just seems much more fun
warm plinth
I mean, I don't think prot is complicated but certainly not boring. Especially compared to druid or monk
warm plinth
I enjoy prot paladin too but it's more inconsistent
quiet crane
Prot warr is pretty much invincible against physical and better then monk when played right
Prot pal is the middle ground between physical and magic
Brew is the safe tank
Since it’s all tied to BS stagger
Druid is... I’m not even gunna comment very viable still but
DK is weak against physical can’t really do much tbh without some serious micro still however viable and DH is best for magic
Pretty much your run down there
@warm plinth it’s nice inturupting everything in mplus but
Helps those who don’t like to press their kick
warm plinth
Yeah prot pal shield procs can be pretty hilarious
"Alright you're next interrupt" shield proc "Ok now you're next interrupt" shield proc
quiet crane
Lmao it’s hilarious when that happens
Only thing that will wreck your day @barren crow is magic
barren crow
well in that situation ill just blame my healer
isnt that what us tanks are supposed to do ?
quiet crane
And dps for no kicks
barren crow
exactly
quiet crane
No stress skyhold best disc hands down so many handsome and helpful folk here don’t hesitate to ask and stay away from fel hammer
barren crow
da fuck is fel hammer
quiet crane
Exactly you don’t wanna know
barren crow
noted
undone sun
Dh discord
stark scroll
It's pretty bad over there
exotic spoke
I mean Dreamgrove is also pretty cool. You have bears making towers. Right @tame garden
mortal brook
🐻
exotic spoke
AWwww Thanks Rhyme
ionic fern
440
terse wedge
i am actually glad
ionic fern
I'm glad that you're glad.
ionic fern
azure grove
Gladception ^^
ionic fern
Which reminds me- what's the affixes?
terse wedge
oof.
ionic fern
Not bad.
warm plinth
Sick
ionic fern
After like..2 months
warm plinth
Fuckin slacker smh
warm plinth
Welcome home. Need more prot woyer keys. Make sure you put them on YT
warm plinth
What are you rolling
terse wedge
I wanna replace my engineering helm
onyx vessel
F
sick sentinel
F
exotic spoke
Inkpod
remote dawn
he guys today here my trinkets in english, what`s the best for M+ around +19?
Gore-Crusted Butcher Block 430
Bloodthursty Urchin 430
Edicts of the Faithless 430
Merektha's Fang 430
Vial of Animated Blood 435
Rezan's Gleaming Eye 445
Briny Barnacle 440
Lingering Sporepods 450
Azshara's Font of Power 450
hallow phoenix
Rezan + edict imo
Could probably font if the rest of your team is also using it....
remote dawn
@ the moment i play edict and urchin combo
hallow phoenix
That's fine too, and is what I run
Oh I forgot it's necrotic this week
Urchin and to some extent edict lose value
Rezans + vial/gore would be my go-to this week
remote dawn
ah okay nice, and run on necrotic with nullification dynamo? @ main
to reset stacks?
hallow phoenix
Wait does that work
remote dawn
i think ^^
hallow phoenix
In any case, I plan on running visions or CnS major like usual
rigid valve
Necrotic is physical since Season 2
hallow phoenix
Just use group utility or CnS to kite when necessary
I'm pretty sure null major works though, it removes debuffs including bleeds pretty sure?
remote dawn
I have to try it, I think you can reset the stacks
@ last necrotic week i see a lot of warri with Null Major
hallow phoenix
What's the CD on the major
remote dawn
2,3 min around?
onyx vessel
Just kill the mobs before your die
Prot warrior life
Run with a fury warrior
50% slows
remote dawn
okay 🙂
ionic fern
@exotic spoke it's todayyyyy.
exotic spoke
Oh. It’s like 430 am. And I can’t sleep again. It all blends together mwahi
ionic fern
exotic spoke
ionic fern
Go to bed.
ionic fern
Everyone needs a Mwahi in their life to tell them to go to sleep.
strong forum
owo
ionic fern
Probably not sweet.
But lullaby's i can do.
ionic fern
Chances are you won't be able to actually fall a sleep after you hear my lullaby voice tho.
👀
sick sentinel
yo guys, do i ever use Revenge or do i wanna save all my rage for ignore pain?
ionic fern
Always use atleast one revenge to get the bleed on all targets.
Other than that you should mostly focus on using free revenges.
If you're drowning in rage and are not taking that much damage then you can dump it with Revenge as well to get more damage out.
sick sentinel
alright ty 🙂 And what would u say is good uptime on Ignore pain ? A guideline so to speak
undone sun
ip isn't something you'd look at uptime for
ionic fern
That.
IP is mostly used just to dump rage and avoid rage capping so you can keep your AM circle going.
brittle owl
i always thought of AM as a triangle myself
ionic fern
Square.
ionic fern
Hectagon
brittle owl
hectogon*
ionic fern
🤷
undone sun
unluck
half river
Boot Up wow in Corporate laptop
ionic fern
brittle owl
imma do that soon for chests
ionic fern
Quality tips.
brittle owl
ionic fern
😂
half river
You asked for it :p
hallow phoenix
Does necrotic affect absorbs like IP and life cocoon
undone sun
yes
hallow phoenix
What about guardian angel proc from hpriest
undone sun
all healing and absorbs
hallow phoenix
👌
worldly nymph
alright, I have a 440 crit haste weapon, not sure which to use
undone sun
sim
worldly nymph
how do I sim survivability?:D
undone sun
if you want survivability it's without a doubt not servent splitter
void berry
You don't care about survivability, 'cause you'll survive anyway.
worldly nymph
thats fair enough
and Thyme its almost like thats why i was pondering on which one to use XDDDDDDD
blazing condor
the little adds in the orb room in ToS still stack necro right?
undone sun
afaik splitter isn't ever worth going for survivability because of the stat drops
unless it's a significant ilevel increase
worldly nymph
Obviously it wont help survivability
undone sun
so if it's at comparable ilevel, sim it for damage
worldly nymph
the reason why I was asking
was because people could tell me if the potential damage was worth the stat loss that would contribute to surviving
IcyVeins guide doesnt seem to say anything about the Rezan's fury trait , is it ever worth taking?
worldly nymph
bloodsport lul
ionic fern
Bloodsport is meh.
brittle owl
correct
ionic fern
Go rezans for sure.
worldly nymph
got the soulspun cache from my 445 residuum opening
worldly nymph
well, I do mostly m+
but my warrior isnt very geared so it was an item lvl upgrade
solar delta
Have any of you guys ever tried using the mechagon red card dodge stacking trinket? It seems to be pretty nice on necrotic due to the debuff procking tons of stocks since it's physical, but I can't totally tell if it's better than using my edicts or not. Any thoughts?
grand spruce
any recommendations for this weeks affixes? Essences, trait wise that is
brittle owl
you don't change traits based on weeks 🤔
the only thing you would want to maybe do on necro is run sphere minor
that's it
grand spruce
kk. with Aegis, Nullification or another as the other minor?
loud burrow
i like aegis and c&s minor, most of the dmg is physical anyway
if we are still talking about m+
strong forum
@solar delta edict and urchin lose like 30% value in necrotic weeks, I haven't heard of anyone ever using dodge trinket or even consider it so I'd say it's extremely underwhelming
hallow phoenix
I've tried the dodge trinket. It's extremely underwhelming unless you are solo tanking behemoth
On behemoth it is just ok
fickle hawk
Hey dudes, What is better for survivability? Haste or vers? I mean does the haste weight up with more rage for mitigation? 🙂
hallow phoenix
Haste
split breach
I may not be an expert here (currently and 2k rio points), but I feel like vers is better past the certain amount of haste. Haste is kinda softcapped at 21-22%, the value of raw haste stat starts declining here. Also, you anyway have additional ~10-15% of haste from Into the Fray talent. But, as I’m pushing higher in m+ (18-19) I feel like just plain damage reduction would be nice, considering that magic damage is very hard to mitigate for warrior (at least, me 🙂 ).
So, generally: unless you have 20-22% of haste without talent buff, take haste. Later, my advice is to get some versatility.
Also, I don’t play raids, so dunno how it is here.
@fickle hawk
brittle owl
you're missing the point about why haste is undisputably bis for survival all around
tame garden
brittle owl
it's not just the fact that it reduces your SB cd
you have a shorter gcd, and shorter cd on your rotational abilities, which in turn lead to more rage generation
which in turn leads to more anger management cdr
more IP, more rage spent, more available cds
m+ is a special case where you naturally have downtime and you plan your pulls around cd's
when that is the case, other secondaries can be more valuable, but it's on a case by case basis
there is no universal decision to be made
most magic damage in the game is either avoidable or reflectable, so you play around that
the handful of instances where it's not, no amount of secondaries will save you. you just have to play the encounter by correctly utilising your defensive resources/meeting the dps checks imposed by them (indirectly)
5% more vers won't save your life when your group doesn't interrupt water blasts properly and/or you don't range kite the casts
whereas 5% more haste could very well mean you get an extra avatar in a dungeon
strong forum
Haste doesn't decline ever in all around value cuz its more about rage than being able to chain 3 shield blocks.
signal plover
In summary, despite all your rage, you still want more haste in the cage
strong forum
20-22% haste is just the number for being able to chain 3 shield blocks. Nothing more nothing less
tame garden
At least the feelycraft had disclaimers
strong forum
That much credit he gets ye
not everything is inherently wrong
But saying haste is declining is just flat out wrong
brittle owl
so it is inherently wrong
strong forum
🙃
Fixed it
From a defensive standpoint haste never loses value
You could argue if you wanna push more dps to get more crit over haste after a certain point, but that's about it
strong forum
Well obv
brittle owl
i've reached a weird point on my paladin where vers is my apparently my best weighted stat
never thought i'd see the day where crit wasn't top
brittle owl
🤷
cutoff point maybe, got socketed 455 gloves with crit/haste before vers jumped over as top dog
strong forum
34.5k on court Chad here ama
brittle owl
📏
strong forum
Incidentally the only boss where I had inkpod available to me
And then quit raiding :D
tame garden
Didnt have to prog zaqul I'm jealous
strong forum
We tried to, killed court 3 times but only got 26 pulls on zaq
Then I decided to kill the guild
exotic spoke
Hey Speg, I don’t have to prog zaqul either
strong forum
And was successfully in doing so
strong forum
After we killed court the first time, I said we won't kill zaq before November ( that was in early October)
Then we had insane roster issues on top of 0 motivation on top of autism
So I whipped out the sudoku
tame garden
Did we get any info at blizzcon about m+ loot in 8.3?
tame garden
hasty nova
nomeratur ur guild broke up? 😦
tame garden
He murdered it
warm plinth
so I whipped out the sudoku
Wat
random urchin
Pretty sure he meant seppuku. But I find the original comment to be hilarious
That’s one deadly sudoku puzzle
warm plinth
IKR lol
strong forum
That's the meme
strong forum
:boomers:
brittle owl
:boomers:
tame garden
Boomersong
strong forum
:monkahmm:
tame garden
:boomers:
sand egret
I seriously don't know this meme.
warm plinth
Same
sand egret
I get it now, but totally didn't have any idea it was a thing prior to 6 min ago
warm plinth
Also your pfp makes me uncomfortable Blade
sand egret
well, just means you're hiding something...
sand egret
0 chicken emojis
tame garden
brittle owl
somewhere in wow apparently
rapid jewel
wtf is a zoomer or boomer?
tame garden
Ok boomer
exotic spoke
Ok boomer
brittle owl
ok boomer
gusty creek
Question. Spell reflect and Rally for bursting, pros and cons?
warm plinth
I mean, Rally doesn't help you with bursting at all
It just makes it do more damage for the rest of the ticks
But you can SR it and reduce the damage
brittle owl
rally is actually bad for bursting unless used right before the last tick
warm plinth
Same reason you don't use Last Stand for bursting. Bursting does a % of your health in damage so increasing your health is generally not a great idea while it's ticking.
brittle owl
you can do it if you hate your healer though
gusty creek
So if busting is DR by SR. Then edicts on magic absorb should help? Or no
strong forum
You can also IP parts of it
warm plinth
wowhead says shadow but magic is magic so who gives a crap!
brittle owl
you never know with all this unpruning
warm plinth
You're an unprune
brittle owl
next thing you know shadow ward might be back
gusty creek
Sooo. Edicts/Null and g2g for bursting
warm plinth
I mean
brittle owl
way
strong forum
Not really
brittle owl
wat*
warm plinth
I don't gear around bursting lol
brittle owl
^
strong forum
Bursting isn't that dangerous
warm plinth
Gear around the dungeon
brittle owl
you play around bursting
gusty creek
Sorry for the noob questions here. Haven’t tanked it as a warrior yet
warm plinth
Bursting is easy. If it's not, your healer is bad or your DPS are refreshing at bad times.
exotic spoke
I gear around necrotic - as in I wouldnt use shield / hps based trinkets now. But play is more important in general - especially with burstingthough
exotic spoke
Eh, I'll change trinkets on necrotic thats about it
warm plinth
Yeah but that's not really gearing around the affix I don't think
It's more like the trinket is less useful as a result so you're just picking what's better
brittle owl
that's just the affix nerfing that mechanic
gusty creek
I’m not trying to gear around it so much per say. Just in general trying to smooth the damage for the group.
brittle owl
everyone is taking damage my dude
strong forum
So tell your dps to stop dpsing
exotic spoke
I mean its a fine line. You're changing the gear based on the mechanic
strong forum
For like 2seconds
brittle owl
if you take 50% less dmg than the rest of the 4 people you're not saving any mana really
from bursting i mean
warm plinth
Yeah they're still gonna be setting up to heal the entire group so you're really not saving anything
strong forum
If your dps decide to kill smth after 7 stacks and refreshes the debuff no amount of gearing can save you there
brittle owl
^
warm plinth
That's what we call you done fucked up
gusty creek
I would normally run edicts either way. Just physical or magic depending on dungeon. Null I haven’t ran yet but I’ll have r3 soon Si was unsure if it was beneficial or not
strong forum
Just run physical edict
Cuz you're not gonna take relevant dmg from bursting whilst fighting a pack
brittle owl
phys edict will achieve better smoothing than absorbing ticks from bursting
which would waste the trinket really
gusty creek
Fair enough. Thanks for the help y’all
hallow phoenix
Do you guys keep hitting shit even on high bursting stacks to keep rage gen up? Or do you just start kiting so as to not kill a mob on accident?
Assuming DPS are typical mongoloids and one of them "just can't stop their DPS"
strong forum
Depends
Tell dps to stop
And you can attack a target thats not about to die
Or just don't do anything
(if it won't kill you)
hallow phoenix
Guess worst case I could just not tclap and only single target
hallow phoenix
But my parse
strong forum
Wha
tame garden
warm plinth
It usually depends on mob health tbh. If I think I'll accidentally refresh then I stop. If not, I keep going while they stop. Either way you're still getting rage from being hit so
On my DH I literally run away so I can't be blamed for resetting 😄
hallow phoenix
Just wanted to see what others thoughts on it were. I hate kiting and I'm pretty sure I've refreshed a stack by trying to keep up mitigation/rage gen
Especially during avatar
This is probably the week for me to learn kiting tho
warm plinth
But I mean, if you're worried about proccing bursting then that means the mobs are almost dead anyway, so necrotic really shouldn't be a concern
It drops when combat ends anyway
hallow phoenix
That's a good point
warm plinth
I would probably only kite as mobs are dying if I was low on necro duration and wanted to be able to chain pull
So like if I could kite and drop stacks before/as mobs die and go right into another pull, I'd do so. But other than that, just let combat drop and then pull
hushed cobalt
What if bursting kept neurotic on for extra hard mode fun
warm plinth
What if fuck no
oblique garnet
just remove necrotic and sanguino from the game kthx
hushed cobalt
Can't recall bursting/necrotic being a combo so tanks dying left and right came to mind
sick sentinel
necrotic feels fine
Not really dying to anything
just have to kite a lot more
but things die instantly
broken isle
bursting has a range I think, maybe kite right before a few dying at same time so u dont die while kiting
strong forum
bursting is only bad for noobs
warm plinth
Bursting and necrotic is a combo; it's this week :p
@hushed cobalt
Bursting has a range @broken isle but it's not a range you could realistically kite outside of it.
tame garden
It's like 100y isnt it
potent anvil
Yeah you outrange at >60
warm plinth
If you have a rogue do the minion pack in 1st boss room of KR, you can avoid bursting if you stand all the way up by the gong that you ring to spawn the trash. And that's not 100 yards
tame garden
Oh I just assumed that was cuz only the rogue got in combat with them
warm plinth
Nah if you stand like...on the steps going into the room you'll get hit
Necro tbh is more of an affix for good groups than bursting is. It's just an inconvenience. Having to kite is shit.
potent anvil
Conflict major, avoid necrotic during avatar
outer dew
brittle owl
this tbh
warm plinth
Go fuck yourself I love you Mwahi
sick sentinel
Is Conflict the play for this week
strong forum
why should it
stable gale
Vision all the way
exotic spoke
Conflict definitely is not the play as a major
sick sentinel
i disagree conflict isnt bad for sure
and i would say it works better then vision random procs for me
chilly brook
I don't see how getting a VERY short duration root is in any way preferable over vision
strong forum
It's about the vers
If anyone is seriously considering the root off of conflict
👉 🚪
Running conflict major is 2x vers of conflict minor
So like 800-900 vers
chilly brook
Still don't see it being a major option
strong forum
Ye
chilly brook
especially not in M+
strong forum
Maybe if you want to ultra turtle for ML or KR
But even then its meh
Cuz undying is better defensively
hallow phoenix
I've used it in TD with great success
When we lacked kiting utility
And huge pulls at start
analog swift
does the root from t clap proc the 400 extra verse?
potent anvil
@analog swift Yes. Any form of hard CC (stun, root, fear) procs it, as well as interrupting a cast.
oblique garnet
@potent anvil Downside of playing with CnS major is that you cant play it with sphere since it prevents the root effect xd
rapid jewel
raiding BfI is good, m+ not so much in my opinion
sick sentinel
well I'm dropping my iron fortress/brace for impact piece for a 3rd bastion and I can pick between brace for impact or a 2nd meticulous
rapid jewel
2nd meticulous
but I am not a big m+ runner, more the raider
sick sentinel
ok I'll give it a try thanks
exotic spoke
MS is really good
If you have the option for 1DC, 3 BOM, 2 MS you take that defensively
sick sentinel
yep those are what I got
I should just start stacking crit now huh?
I'm at like 1850 haste
sick sentinel
I have a mastery stacked ring 445 with socket and a regular 445 vers stacked ring
Whats better defensively
I have 3 bom and 1.1k mastery if i have that mastery ring on
grim nymph
Any way to see the damage done via spell reflect?
undone sun
logs
lean arch
how far away from the boss tank can you go to pick up adds on zaqul?
last wharf
Shh Thyme. Get out of my tank chats.
undone sun
tank chats is my origins
lean arch
what i was getting at was, i am pulling aggro on any horrific vision that i dot up as a warlock because i warrior seems incapable of getting them. "taunt was on cd" is always the excuse
i don't know why it's an issue after 150 pulls
and a brm main tank, seems ox statue would be op for that
spice ferry
taunt is constantly on cd on that fight
and yes, monk is super good
its an issue because they spawn faster than any tank other than brew can taunt
lean arch
right, but like
how bad is it to move away from the boss tank?
our warrior is afraid to not be on the monks balls
sick sentinel
It should be completely fine as long as the prot is using his CDs correctly
tight tree
@lean arch hunters and rogues should help with tricks/MDs on spawns tbh
can also leap/charge back
leap resets taunt CD as well
can heroic throw if fast, it helps, it makes decent threat
overall taunt on cd is lame excuse, tank should be proactive trying to work these issues out with raid
try to come out with solutions
oblique garnet
@lean arch you theres no reason why you wouldnt bring the adds to melee holding aggro on the adds is really annoying especially if they are dotted the moment they spawn
tight tree
that too
mental scarab
But if dps stay near the boss pulled adds will come close to boss so tanks can pick them up🤔
Use brains
no reason to stay in africa as dps
novel tiger
what are good essence to use this week? C&S or still VoP major
ionic fern
Still VoP.
There was a time where people diddn't have essences and dealt with Necrotic by Stun->Jump away.
This will give you enough distance to drop your stacks in like 99% of the time.
novel tiger
thanks
whole cove
What do you guys think about taking ravager this week to reduce necro stacks? Saw Nerfclap take it for a shrrine necro key in the MDI and it seemed to do decent. Just worried about lack of CDs if not running Anger Management
ionic fern
Wait what
whole cove
Ravager decreases rate of necro stacks cause of the parry rate increase
ionic fern
Not like this.
stark scroll
Or you could just stun and leap
ionic fern
The "Wait what" was more to the topic of Ravager being taken seriously.
No, you still don't take Ravager even for Necrotic weeks.
The tradeoff with AM is too big .
ember arrow
I look at prot first time in 5 months
Last post is like 2018 never left
@ionic fern
ionic fern
Huh?
ember arrow
ionic fern
👌
brittle owl
ember arrow
Legion, good times
ionic fern
Big brain.
ionic fern
😒
ember arrow
Yea
9n my dk i was both in legion
On
Ok last screen
I hear prot is really good in bfa?
ember arrow
Prot on star augur 👌
brittle owl
brew >>>>>> everyone else
brittle owl
they were all in big rooms tho
brittle owl
nah just zul
ember arrow
Tbh
Only reason i raided
Was friends
And this
Couldnt quite do that on prot
On start of bfa
ember arrow
I could pull epice hps in legion doe
brittle owl
and brew 😂
loud burrow
my random co-tank last week used lucid dream major and used IP 10times more then me...this way he had big hps as well
ionic fern
👀
brittle owl
👀
loud burrow
no joke
brittle owl
that is almost
ionic fern
That's some next level "Look good on meters".
ionic fern
Dodge punchcard, crit stack, ravager. 🤓
brittle owl
you know
there is a game where avoidance tanking is actually the meta
it's called classic
😂
loud burrow
😉
brittle owl
be sure to change your gems to https://www.wowhead.com/item=42151/subtle-dragons-eye#comments as well
vagrant arrow
could any1 survive third boss motherlode 19-20 keys this week?
searing reagent hits 260k 260k
rapid jewel
you can reflect every second one, rest handle with LS+ PS spam, one with wall, next with LS again
or let a dd take it with immunity
tacit smelt
Cycle CDs, and if you have your hearthstone set at the monkey inn right at ml entrance you could big brain it after second boss and hearth and swap to never surrender and walk back in, the talent help alot if you don't have enough CDs to go around and shield block is pretty useless on the last 2 bosses
exotic spoke
I don’t think swapping to NS is the answer.
If other people are swapping then sure maybe - but don’t be the only one to do it
tacit smelt
I do it only when I see my healer making me sweat
exotic spoke
I wouldn’t run with that healer then
tacit smelt
I pug mostly lmao
exotic spoke
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Once you start to get to the 20+ range undying gift can be very useful as a major
tacit smelt
I go for the true mmo experience, meet every type of players in various content lvls
exotic spoke
Good for you? I go for the not suck experience and group with good players for hard content
tacit smelt
Also what trinks are running Berk??
analog swift
I think the hearth our strat is worth if your resto Druid and rogue are doing the stealth around bullshit
exotic spoke
If someone else is doing it then go for it imo. But don’t be the one person to do it imo
hallow phoenix
I feel like I'd miss the 1 min cdr on last stand a lot
analog swift
Yeah idk if it’s even worth it for never surrender
Like if you’re doing that go never surrender throw on 2 blood sport and null major
warm plinth
Just bring a warlock that isn’t demo XD
brittle owl
swapping talents makes no sense. if you're gonna swap something might as well swap essences
also your trinket choice will make next to no difference on wether you'll survive the boss or not
if you specifically need something extra for the ladt two bosses you should take null major or undying gift major
depending on how long the fight lasts and how many gaps you have in your cooldown setup
warm plinth
Yeah but spriest can only dispel one every 45 seconds. Singe Magic is only 15 sec CD
Though Spriest is arguably more useful in general :p
brittle owl
spriest makes it a cakewalk
in general you want a spriest in your group as a non woyer tank
hallow phoenix
I think you'd be able to have SW+LS for every one that cant be dispelled/reflected
With spriest
warm plinth
45 seconds means like...every 3rd one maybe? I'm pretty sure singe is short enough for every cast so I think mass can hit every 3rd.
hallow phoenix
Either way it's better than no priest/lock
warm plinth
As a fall back
warm plinth
Yeah that too lol
hallow phoenix
I need to find me a spriest
brittle owl
remember when spriests where budget warlocks
brittle owl
just a few months more tho 😂
sick sentinel
gz POG
tame garden
exotic spoke
Dark iron > regular dwarf
sick sentinel
when i was alliance insta went to dark iron
from dwarf
the day it came out looked so cool imo
distant crystal
everyone has the right to be wrong
exotic spoke
I agree - and that’s why I forgive you
distant crystal
exotic spoke
I mean - I look fucking sexy. Ps - your transmog - YIKES
exotic spoke
I mean - Dreadnaught just looks fucking good on DiD and space goats (more than other races imo
I have other sets - but if you got it flaunt it right?
vagrant arrow
ty bro @sick sentinel
exotic spoke
But they have almost the exact same transmog lol
@tame garden can attest to Probablyriki’s cuteness
tame garden
True
vagrant arrow
exotic spoke
TBF, I’ve been 5 different races since halfway through legion. Guildmates spent gold on them. Human > gnome > dwarf > space goat > DID
rapid jewel
naked Orc = Sexy Orc
chilly brook
Bro I mean the fact that two of you are female dwarves....
cinder fern
You're all so lovely 😄
chilly brook
Clearly BiS
I just realized I logged out in arms though so you don’t get to see my nice blue mage tower shield
chilly brook
Why you say that?
brittle owl
chadalari exist my dude
chilly brook
Gotta get my purge bro
exotic spoke
@brittle owl ARE YOU RACE SHAMING SIR? THIS IS 2019
chilly brook
Cuz 90% of the time my DPS can’t be bothered to
exotic spoke
Hating on female dwarves
brittle owl
oh i'm sorry i shat on your short and stocky aunt RP
exotic spoke
Swear to god I will murder you
chilly brook
Besides panda blood elf is best race
exotic spoke
I make baked port tato
brittle owl
thats the most aunt shit ever
exotic spoke
Stranger danger
brittle owl
i've seen way too much gobbo porn because of him
chilly brook
That’s cuz female goblins are THICC
exotic spoke
Stranger danger!!! I’m not just a sexual fetish
signal plover
having dreadnaught and wasting on goblin
winged grail
@exotic spoke Your DID looks sweet - what is the transmog?
exotic spoke
Dreadnaught, bulwark Of azzinoth and I can’t remember the weapon
@signal plover I use it on my DiD warrior and human DK too 🙂
exotic spoke
Agree
winged grail
Cheers Riki
chilly brook
I like the shield a lot and find the flail to be a little basic but that’s me
winged grail
Paw what’s yours?
chilly brook
Looks like Antorus Tier with the mage tower
brittle owl
its exactly elite pvp set with the mage tower
cinder fern
PvP not Antorus, no?
chilly brook
Idk
I don’t remember the color variations just the armor design and what tier they’re related to 😜
So uh I got a question for all of you
chilly brook
Mythic reclear night so you’re allowed to bring your alt as long as you’re not gonna do anything stupid or not be able to pull your weight right, you’re tanking and you get a 445 helmet which has BoM and DC which would let you have 3xBoM instead of just 1 so you select BiS trait on RCLootCouncil you don’t get the item, no big deal so you trade it to the warrior on main roster who won it. You notice next boss he hasn’t equipped it. So out of curiosity you sim it and every combination of it and despite it being an ilvl upgrade for him it’s a net DPS loss. He doesn’t use it at all on any of the bosses after and when you ask an officer about it he gives you a statement saying that the guy said it was “BiS on certain fights with certain combinations” and then you are told later from a friend that they said it was because he was on his main and he just wanted to try some of the traits out. How pissed would you be?
signal plover
@winged grail it's the elite PvP recolor of the antorus M set. @cinder fern was right
analog swift
pissed tht I didn't get the piece? yes 100%
pissed at rc loot?
eeeehhhh i can understand officer taking someone at his word
like that is an iffy situation
chilly brook
I mean he continued to defend his position after I sent him the link with the sim and then bitched to my bud about how he doesn’t understand why I’m not happy about it
¯_(ツ)_/¯
signal plover
Some ppl suck
chilly brook
I was also originally told I was only locked into monk until we had another monk to provide the debuff, but now that we have two BrMs I’m told that I’m stuck on monk until next tier
🙃
chilly brook
On a more serious note
analog swift
nah that is tilting
chilly brook
How do you all deal with deferred sentence on queens court when you need to swap? Just yell at your healers?
analog swift
on monk?
move at 1
they say move at 3
but i dont trust
so i just treat it like waycrest manor
and just let the hots take care of me
chilly brook
Cuz I feel like it chunks me on that boss swap
analog swift
yeah just keep moving at 1
chilly brook
Such a dumb mechanic
analog swift
yeah
analog swift
yeah I think i went edicts + cyclo
i found urchin mehhh for that fight
the damage you take is in bursts
you don't need trickle of heals
chilly brook
I mean I seem to be the guy who gets less heals that fight anyways
analog swift
yeah same here
chilly brook
At least during that phase cuz I’m on what’s her name away from the group
analog swift
i'm on the fat boss during deferred and they're popping sparks with barriers which leaves me to clinch my asshole
cinder fern
I ran inkpod/eye, cleared my deferred around two or three and just hoped I was over half for the swap.
cinder fern
Also on pashmar for the first deferred.
analog swift
so i just reset at 1 constantly to let the hots do the work
although for awhile i ran null major
and would just let it ramp to like 8
pop null major and take zero damage
cinder fern
I ran CoF major and just used wall. I had beacon on me though so easy peasy.
analog swift
yeah wall w/ beacon is fine
on our kill i just reset at one and used a health pot when the spark popped
cinder fern
That first deferred was the wall for us for a bit. Clearing early as the far tank helped.
chilly brook
I was running inkpod and urchin
warm plinth
You're an inkpod
warm plinth
I read that as
I fart when angry
chilly brook
Lol
analog swift
also
after that first deferred
you can bait the charge onto the tank
which is fun
when you can't get healed
analog swift
for baiting the charge?
brittle owl
get bop last 2 seconds of deferred, taunt, cancel after the edict switches
and you will immune the heal debuff as well
analog swift
that's nice if you havep allies in your group
more than 1 cuz the other tank wants one for the heal debuff
warm plinth
So mael just so I'm clear, you can Shield Wall last 2 seconds of deferred and you're immune?
😏
brittle owl
lel
realistically healers/dps don't need to cheese the mechanics
but a paladin can cheese all 3 deferred's, so up to your strat really
mages can cheese 2 of em as well
undone sun
👀
chilly brook
Eh not much besides missing me being a bitch
lusty grotto
ok just come be alliance in kirtonos and ill ginvite you
better level up before tuesday though
also be a dwarf priest
or warrior
👍
chilly brook
Can I come too?
lusty grotto
of course
we need warriors
gotta get ready for 4horseman somehow
but again get to 60 before tuesday cause shit is gonna be rough
chilly brook
Lemme feral tank 🙃
chilly brook
It’s a joke anyways
chilly brook
I wouldn’t want to farm hundreds of the same weapon
lusty grotto
some guy started flaming me the other night
in whispers
cause i told him fuck no i aint giving sulfuras to off spec for pvp
chilly brook
Lol
lusty grotto
chilly brook
Gotta give it to them 2h fury
lusty grotto
that's a part of it
its all on discordchip of course
for the luls
(also we gave sulf to a ret paladin in vanilla) not gonna fall for that shit again
eh 2h fury is okay
i kinda vomit a little but
its def okay
chilly brook
Tell him to get the 2h axe that buffs spell attacks for everyone I forget the name
sand egret
Classic sounds fun
chilly brook
It is
chilly brook
Leveling a warrior is kinda aids though
lusty grotto
it def wasn't as rough as i was used to
but then again
i knew exactly what to avoid lmao
chilly brook
Leveling a hunter though? That’s nice
lusty grotto
you know whats super easy though
leveling a priest
go shadow priest, destroy noobs
chilly brook
All that wand damage
chilly brook
Shadow is supposed to be super nice for leveling too
lusty grotto
anything looking to gank you? ez pz
chilly brook
Y’all need any locks?
lusty grotto
we do
we need locks priests and warriors
everything else we kind of have at the moment
chilly brook
I’ll be a soul shard bitch ez pz
lusty grotto
maybe a holy paladin that's not interested in the slightest on sulfuras
chilly brook
LOL
chilly brook
I actually like the idea of playing pally in classic
But I don’t wanna deal with leveling as auto attack boi
lusty grotto
(also the druid is hella bad)
chilly brook
Throw me a wand and I’ll start leveling that lock
lusty grotto
ye
a wand huh
you know i gotta be honest i dont think locks are as easy as spriests
chilly brook
Lol you really want a priest don’t you
chilly brook
Is kirtonos or w/e east or west coast?
chilly brook
Lol
lusty grotto
like 1:3
close to 1:2
its gonna be great on tuesday
GM grind is gonna be so fucking easy
chilly brook
Like alliance outnumbered or horde outnumbered?
lusty grotto
horde outnumbers alliance
and we're alliance
but that just means that getting GM will be easier for us
since you know there are more targets, and in faction competition isn't gonna be that huge
but yeah usually the lower number faction has an easier time
chilly brook
I saw another lock stacking a bunch of hp5 gear and I wonder how effective that would actually be
lusty grotto
hmm
chilly brook
Since theoretically it would improve your sustain damage
lusty grotto
mp5 goes to waste the faster your target goes down
kind of
in the context of warlocks
chilly brook
That’s a given for almost any class though
lusty grotto
yeah
people still dont understand it though
like i can out-threat any fucking warrior ive raided with in my server because these fuckers go fury prot and don't stack hit
meanwhile deep prot hit capped, i shit on them
warm plinth
chilly brook
Just thought it was an interesting sentiment and wonder if the math would actually check out to where being able to spam more of your spells with a little lower stats would be better than spamming less with more stats
distant crystal
chilly brook
Assuming you don’t drop hit
chilly brook
Not like it matters shadow bolt boi anyways
lusty grotto
i think it might be best to see an spriest
in that scenario
but also again the duration of the encounter
chilly brook
Short duration shadow slaps
lusty grotto
yeah
chilly brook
Until it ooms
lusty grotto
shadow slaps with spriests are hyugge
btw i had to
ran a 13 with friends on tuesday
to get them "geared" and focus beam
40 min over time
lmao
they were 370 ilvl though
chilly brook
Oof