Should you be able to farm gear from keys right now current system no changes? @vale kestrel
#protection
chilly brook
tame garden
Make m+ drop residuum
analog swift
i mean, it's also a bit ridiculous, that i get the better gear from raiding in my 1.4K world ranked guild than I do when I push keys and I'm a top 200 brewmaster
vale kestrel
@chilly brook are you blind?
exotic spoke
I mean - you’re more likely, on any given individual piece, to get a 450 or 455 from mythic raid than in m+
vale kestrel
Or just a passive aggressive cunt
exotic spoke
However, due to the law of large numbers - and spammable you can get it there from m+
analog swift
well maybe not because i play leather
but yeah
tbh i also think you should only get gear if you time the key
if you don't time the key you didn't "beat the boss" so to speak
chilly brook
You can ask me if I’m blind but you’re not giving me a straight answer
exotic spoke
Also - gearing wise next tier will be interesting
serene yacht
Or frustrating
analog swift
I'm excited
exotic spoke
I think both of you mayyyy want to calm down.
analog swift
corrupting doesn't look perfect
vale kestrel
analog swift
but i like that blizz is TRYING new stuff
exotic spoke
I meant for stat wise theseus. There’s very little vers crit from raid
serene yacht
I just dont want to have to carry 800 pieces of gear to manage corruption debuffs but depending how they tune it it might not be bad
analog swift
oh dude i know, had to scrap a 445 socketed ring form QC
serene yacht
But I'm a scrub so my opinion is worth diddly
exotic spoke
Oof theseus oof
jolly thistle
ok so you dont like the fact that people could farm 20s for loot. make a second currency like bonus rolls for m+ and give people 5 rolls per week with a increased itemlevel for higher keys.
vale kestrel
Idk I feel like at a certain point rng just gets barf. I like mmo systems that have bad luck protection in the form of currency
So that after a certain period of bad luck
You can always swap / target@the gear you were going for
But that’s just a completely diff system from what blizz has
As blizz wants to@encourage more playtime
So I get it.
exotic spoke
The new systems seams like super rng - more so than TFs ever were
serene yacht
As long as wow isnt making me farm variations of the same base weapon and then farm like a hundred extra to upgrade it to some arbitrary + rank it isnt that bad
vale kestrel
Yeah I wasn’t a fan of the benthic concept given it was@touted as a catch up mechanic
And now it’s better than raid mythic gear
This corrupted thing sounds like benthic on steroids to a degree
But don’t quote me on that I haven’t done my full research on it yet
:p
analog swift
its a bit different as it's not automatically bis
serene yacht
Corrupted would be neat if you could farm to re roll the affix
analog swift
and you can kinda out play the negative affects
jolly thistle
right now it depends on the drop rate. you can only equip a set amount anyways. if you get a lot of corrupted gear and can choose what you want to wear it would be a pretty good system actually
exotic spoke
There are three variables, as I understand it, after an item is corrupted.
You want theright benefit
The right tier
And you want a low corruption roll
serene yacht
The corruption amount is supposed to be tied to benefit
vale kestrel
Btw I’d rather m+ at higher levels reward dungeon specific Titan residuum. Exp: say I want to farm for Harlan’s loaded dice. If I do a +15. I get 200 “freehold fragments”. Higher keys give more keybspecific fragments
vale kestrel
Once I have enough I can trade in for a dungeon specific loot
exotic spoke
No it’s not. It was specially called out that it can be different
Can you cite that jes
serene yacht
It was in the blue post yesterday
vale kestrel
At 415; 430 or 445
serene yacht
Yeah one sec
mild river
So RNG on RNG on RNG? I'll pass
exotic spoke
One reduction of rng helps a lot
vale kestrel
That would actually encourage me to farm a shit ton of high dungeons
To get these fragments
Knowing that once I put in enough time
I can trade in for a 445 trinket
And if I get lucky I won’t even need to trade in
serene yacht
mild river
I have always believed that titanforged should have worked sort of like how we had it in MoP. Items have 4/4 upgrades which you can purchase with currency.
exotic spoke
That doesn’t say it’s locked. It depends on the tier.
You can read it two ways. A higher tier will always have more corruption or each tier / effect has the same corruption
I don’t know what’s intended
mild river
If you remove the corruption you lose the bonus too?
vale kestrel
Does the PTR have any examples
serene yacht
Correlating directly with the power reads like it is 1 to 1 but well know for sure in the next ptr build
vale kestrel
Of these pieces and what the trade offs are yet?
exotic spoke
serene yacht
The trade offs are the 4 debuffs
vale kestrel
Oh nothing yet okay
exotic spoke
That’s the list of effects right now
mild river
Wowhead has some examples I think
vale kestrel
Oh nice thanks riki
mild river
Reddit too
exotic spoke
Flash of clarity please. Kthxbai
serene yacht
So this is a dumb question but I figure whatever.
I constantly see this ilvl 300 head piece recommended to prot warriors for aezorite gear(Helm of Abyssal Malevolence). Is this an oversight in the resources or are the traits on this really so good to pass over 100+ ilvls on a helmet? That seems suspect.
Or like is it just that it frees your chest and shoulder up for better combos or something
It just seems so bizare
tame garden
vale kestrel
Are you sure it’s not just showing bass ilvl drop
serene yacht
Bought from a vendor I thought
serene yacht
Ooooooooook
undone sun
serene yacht
That immediately makes so much more sense
chilly brook
Ok so you’re answering a question but you’re not answering the question I’m asking, so here we go again. Do you think that Mythic plus as it is should be farmable for gear YES or NO? @vale kestrel
sand egret
uhhh how about that leech eh?
ionic fern
What was the argument?:o
serene yacht
People cant seem to agree on how to balance the rewards of high level m+ and mythic raiding
exotic spoke
Griff, just let it drop man
sand egret
Remove all rewards. The real reward is the friends you make along the way.
serene yacht
^
strong forum
serene yacht
I still want mounts tho
strong forum
i play for progressing my character
distant crystal
strong forum
fuck friends
brittle owl
only if its consensual
chilly brook
@exotic spoke I mean it’s not a hard question to answer and the answer does actually matter
strong forum
no >:)
tame garden
Make heroic the ilvl cap. Mythic raiding just for achievements/mounts/tmog/progression.
strong forum
:)
brittle owl
legit illegal
brittle owl
rot in jail you degenerate i'm calling the popos
distant crystal
and make all gear scale down to heroic ilvl in M+
exotic spoke
I’m just saying it’s a pointless discussion to have between you two because there’s obviously no way to meet in the middle / compromise just from watching you two interact
But - I’m out for a bit because yeahhhhh
distant crystal
it's pearl day boys
astral crystal
posting in #protection
distant crystal
<---not yours
vale kestrel
But I answered your question.
If you’re stuck on the wording repeatable, I’ll clarify. Same thing as farmable to me.
And as I stated, what stumps me is the right way to balance the ilvl on the reward
chilly brook
That’s not an answer to my question but I’m already over it
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Sorry if I pushed some buttons
vale kestrel
“Should it be farmable” “I think it should be repeatable”
Replace the word repeatable with farmable
Confused still?
Or do I need to hold your hand and open your mouth for you and spoon feed you further?
chilly brook
Y I K E S
tame garden
Heroic is repeatable but not farmable
vale kestrel
We are talking about m+
distant crystal
at this point
tame garden
I'm saying those words are not the same
distant crystal
vale kestrel
And I’ve already clarified that repeatable really just means farmable
chilly brook
Well let it not be said that I didn’t try dropping it and saying sorry
distant crystal
sand egret
that song is a banger
outer dew
chilly brook
TBH I liked frozen
distant crystal
now kiss!
vale kestrel
💋
chilly brook
Yes frozen 2 is being made
warm plinth
Never seen Frozen but that song is one of the catchiest things I've ever heard
vale kestrel
^ there’s a cool mashup of the same song but broken up by different languages
Strung together so it’s still one song from start to finish
But goes through the diff languages. Reallllu cool video
void berry
cinder pelican
would anyone recommend either .. 1 incite the pack vs 1 callous reprisal
i know it's a little thing
hushed cobalt
I got 2 cr but because also BoM pieces and I mainly prot in m+
strong forum
Yikes
hushed cobalt
1dc/2cr/3bom makes you unkillable until you die
hushed cobalt
I'm guessing blood sport for one and it's on inner ring for the other
dreamy fulcrum
is there any way to know what spell got reflected by spell reflect?
undone sun
logs
dreamy fulcrum
real time?
undone sun
no
analog swift
yes
dreamy fulcrum
damn :/
analog swift
watch the animation
analog swift
CLOSELY
dreamy fulcrum
dont be silly
undone sun
not everything has an animation
dreamy fulcrum
what spell i reflected.
analog swift
right
but like
what's the context
like if you are trying to spell reflect the witches in waycrest
there's no confusing what spell you reflected
dreamy fulcrum
pvp
sand egret
there’s a sound effect btw
sand egret
oh thats like two letters too much for me
exotic spoke
If you time it properly - for hard casts - you can control what you reflect
Instant casts are harder.
Also, I’m curious as to why you need to know what you reflected
exotic spoke
Maybe you can set up a friendly fire in arenas... but uh.... probably not.
dreamy fulcrum
so if 5 ppl attack you at the same time with instants
you can know what you reflected by the sound?
exotic spoke
See the big number pop up over their head and figure it out based on calculus and what class took the damage obv
pure hare
Hey guys, dumb question, but I'm pretty new to warrior tanking, and was curious what you get most frustrated with/struggle with in 5 man content
spice ferry
pure hare
Would you say warrior has the highest skill cap?
spice ferry
presumably speaking in m+ ?
pure hare
Yes
stark scroll
I haven't played brewmaster so excluding that as idk, but I'd say warrior is harder than the other tanks, more buttons to press and things to do.
sharp rover
I'm in a position to choose between a 450 breastplate of arterial protection and a 435 ashvane warden's cuirass. Which is stronger for mythic keystones?
sick sentinel
Ilvl
sharp rover
Even though the traits are worse all around?
Does the leech from multiple Bloodsport traits stack?
spice ferry
@pure hare pwar and brew i'd say are the highest "skillcap" in a sense that they are the two most popular tanks at the highest level of keys atm, saying that though, every other tank isn't that far behind.
warm plinth
Sick, congrats
warm plinth
No it doesn't o_O
onyx vessel
O
warm plinth
warm plinth
lul
onyx vessel
I forget the name
Ghash i got kicked from my guilld yay i dont have to get someone bitching about my dps whoring
😂
undone sun
👏
ionic fern
Always worry about everything.
chilly brook
I'm just curious, did they complain that you pushed for damage as a tank?
onyx vessel
Yup
The brm kept pushing me to use 2 tanking trinkets
If that accually made me stop doing 13k more dps then him
Maybe 10k with 2 tank trinkets on
What he doesnt understand how does 1 die as a tank let alone a prot warrior
So i told him to fuck off in voice chat
Then told gm to tank with him
distant crystal
ionic fern
And have in the past.
I was asked to do "less dps cause the other tank was complaining". Not my problem he can't play his class/role correctly and i'm not gonna handicap myself just cause he can't play.
🤷
distant crystal
i'd probably just talk to the other tank privately
onyx vessel
Yup
distant crystal
and try to help him not deal shit dps
ionic fern
With the guild being "CE guild - everyone is expected to know their class and improve" blablabla
onyx vessel
I tried
distant crystal
cause a monk playing well shouldn't havve issues getting ripped from
distant crystal
presumably that was the issue right?
onyx vessel
distant crystal
ripping randomly "madjay did you taunt??"
chilly brook
@onyx vessel lmao how much damage is he doing?
ionic fern
The issue is that snowflakes get hurt if you tell them they are not playing properly and suggest them to look at logs etc.
onyx vessel
10k-13k st
onyx vessel
I do 24-25k
chilly brook
I do 24ish on my BrM
onyx vessel
Hes brm
chilly brook
does he just not press buttons
onyx vessel
He refuses help with anything
He does just does it for pure surv
Which is pointless as brm
distant crystal
like even if you were using defensive trinkets/traits
chilly brook
imo any tank not willing to do damage is not worth having as a tank
sick sentinel
well if seen a guild with prot pala ( 7k dps) and prot warrior (9-10k dps)... both at 440+
onyx vessel
Yup
distant crystal
if you're pushing buttons like you should to keep rage gen
you'd be doing like 19-20K anyway
chilly brook
but like even going full survival mode he should be doing more damage to help regen brews....
onyx vessel
I was using deva 2 dps trinkets full benthic gear cof major
ionic fern
I mean..they can be a tank with that DPS but they should not:
1)Be in a guild that has a goal of CE
2)Complain about their co-tank who is properly playing the class
ionic fern
When ever i get a guild interview the first thing i do is ask who my co-tank is and then check their logs.
onyx vessel
Sounds good new guild im not even bothering to tank
Unless asked or m+
Atleast m+ you can pump
chilly brook
thankfully my guild yeeted our other tank
distant crystal
our gm/mt had kinda sleeper dps
and our offtank was a minmaxer
until we got to ashvane
now they both pump
chilly brook
myself and my other tank both do about 23-25k st
strong forum
I got memed quite alot for using cyka blast on ashvane
strong forum
Fucking dps brainlets don't understand you don't need trinkets to survive
Welcome to 'tank should be survival oriented not dmg'
And the only way to die is misplay
chilly brook
facts though
I mean like I don't really think tank trinkets are useful outside of high keys
ionic fern
They can be.
Depending on class/fight.
But definetly not neccessary
Like 99% of your survivability comes from your gameplay.
distant crystal
if your healers don't give you enough attention
chilly brook
sure but as a general rule I think you're better off going with a damage trinket
chilly brook
As far as keys are concerned I think tanking trinkets just gain value because it allows you to be a little more risky and pull larger and also allowing your healer to focus a little more on DPS
And most of your damage in keys is gonna come from 👢 🍵 👏
onyx vessel
I took less overall dmg then he did
With full dps gear
That raid night i was a little bit more rude to him cuz fuck by now he shouldve known idgaf
But he has to boss me around like im a retard
Its like its a heroic run quit trying to hard
ionic fern
L o g s
strong forum
On hc?
onyx vessel
Yup
onyx vessel
The part where you go in bubble and thd other tank stays out
When it happens during moving edict
He doesnt
strong forum
Yikes
I don't think deferred sentence can even 1shot if you stand still
On hc
A monk
Oh BTW
I think sloot said that monks might be borked for raiding, according to yesterday's testing
Cuz the nerf turns out to be stronger than it seemed at first
undone sun
👏 too 👏 early 👏 to 👏 tell 👏
ionic fern
The "stronger" part of the nerf was probably the "Gift of the ox" bug fix.
"Fixed a bug causing Gift of the Ox orbs to spawn too often for players with high amounts of Stamina."
strong forum
Ye I know
onyx vessel
Wtf
strong forum
He was talking more about the stagger %
No idea what he meant with it
I can only paraphrase
onyx vessel
He got fucked
strong forum
He said that monk is only getting to 50-60% stagger on hc testing
sick sentinel
I was dying on ashzara yesterday, filling in for one of our monks and I died a few times
Kaege what was the problem there, hat can we do to fix it? (After the raid)
The middle ward was getting power because some adds went through
okay so it's just tank damage then, it won't be a problem with a monk
?????
ionic fern
Nice.
QUality discussion
Tell him "Ah, mustev been a healer issue, please replace the MW with another holy paladin Glimmer stacking".
strong forum
Bro FUCK monks
oblique garnet
monks are still strong their self healing was the only thing that actually took major hit
strong forum
Not to mention the loss of edict and urchin
oblique garnet
honestly idk what to feel of the bosses so far
strong forum
Hivemind looks fun
oblique garnet
Only one of them feels okish to play on warrior
so much magic damage in all of them
crisp slate
Feel like pala gonna be really strong in there
I really just want something to be stronger than monk so I can stop playing it for prog
strong forum
I'm tryna play my vdh more
Cuz they're getting stronger and stronger and might unironically be better for next tier
crisp slate
I’ve done 7/8 with my DH the last few weeks. Even Orgo felt really good with the vop/glut build
strong forum
I'd rank them already top 3, tied with pally
I wish they had more dps traits tho
Some synergistic stuff would be nice
Maybe mastery gain with soul fragments consumed
A very short stacking buff
Or smth
ionic fern
VDH is gooooood.
ionic fern
No. Too much of AS fanboy for that.
😄
But "likeing" something is personal preference.
But imo they perform just as well as a paladin unless there's some cheese strats included.
hallow phoenix
Oh so I got my raid to change up strat on orgo tonight. Got her down to 4%
ionic fern
OH LOOK AT THAT.
hallow phoenix
Pally on adds brm on boss. Worked like a charm
hallow phoenix
Next week we're bringing our fresh 400 ilvl vdh and will 3 DH tank it
ionic fern
hallow phoenix
Shake things up a bit
In phase 2 I know it's suggested to kill the first wave of adds, but doing that a few times only got us to like 15% before wiping. When we ignored all adds and just had the pally fuck off in a corner, we got 4%
Anyone else just ignore all p2 adds?
oblique garnet
no
azure grove
@hallow phoenix Yes, we do the same actually. As soon as I kick the boss at 0.5 secs, we start our blast on boss.
strong forum
Kill 1st wave, around that time boss should hit 15-20% then burn boss
azure grove
We are playing with 4 healers, we dont have the mana for killing 1st wave
strong forum
4 heal 2 tank?
azure grove
4 Heal 3 Tank
hallow phoenix
Don't have the mana even with each heals getting a drink for p2?
azure grove
Its worth if it works and it works for us
strong forum
I mean sure
azure grove
Its differently from try to try, on our first kill the heals had more than enough mana, but the following ones were pretty intensive for them
Are we allowed to link logs?
undone sun
yes
strong forum
It's recommended
blazing dune
@azure grove Sorry, your link has a bad word in it so our bot doesn't like it - here it is for you lol https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ARvn9hYV3qfaGZMd/#fight=8
undone sun
🤣
azure grove
Where is the bad word? 0o
blazing dune
undone sun
after 3q
azure grove
for real? xD
blazing dune
Yeeeeah, it happens sometimes, unfortunate
azure grove
Just to notice, Im actively raiding on my monk, so you wont find any Protwar
hallow phoenix
Can't hide from us
azure grove
@blazing dune Thank you for that fast reaction, I wasnt even able to fully read the server message
hallow phoenix
Someone somewhere has logged your prot war
azure grove
For sure, there should be Logs for the first 3 mythic bosses for my war 😄
strong forum
Hah what a faQ
azure grove
What do you mean?
strong forum
Not talking to you
Was referring to the bot thingy
Eyir sucks
Wait a minute
Where'd she go
azure grove
You guys got exp for killing queens court with 3 healers?
azure grove
On wednesday we had some tries where our disc dc'd and died. So we were actively playing with 1 Hpala, 1 Hpriest and 1 Rsham and came down to like 30% without greater problems.
strong forum
I mean court is purely burst windows of dmg
If you healers have enough mana, I think it can be managed
worldly verge
Hey guys, any 2 person flying mount that is ez to get?
ebon hound
Depends on how cheap Vial of the Sands is I guess
but it's pretty easy to get, if you have the gold
sick sentinel
should be around 70k
exotic spoke
What’s up
ionic fern
The sky.
exotic spoke
I see what you did there mwahi
ionic fern
👀
exotic spoke
Lol
tame garden
exotic spoke
Hi speg
tame garden
Hello riki
How do I make people dodge tentacles
I am feeling very after my raid last night
wooden radish
@ionic fern how is corrupted loot for prot warrior?
tame garden
I will try thank you
exotic spoke
You’re welcome friend. If they complain- keep beating them until they learn better
strong forum
@wooden radish yes
shy rapids
what essences are people using for mythic + ?
novel agate
I run visions major, lucid and nullification minors
warm plinth
I use visions major, sphere and C&S minors
wooden radish
@ionic fern did you want to eat at in & out next week @ blizzcon?
warm plinth
Spoiler alert: It's not that good
wooden radish
he misunderstood 😆
warm plinth
I'm pretty sure he's asking if you wanted to eat at In-N-Out Burger Mwahi
Not if you wanted to eat out XD
warm plinth
I'll get to Blizzcon one day
wooden radish
so will @ionic fern
warm plinth
ionic fern
Wait
That's a thing?
We just recently got KFC here so we're super excited about that.
Recently as in..yesterday.
wooden radish
yes its a thing
wooden radish
yes
ionic fern
Then yes, i wanna eat in&out
wooden radish
imagine being excited about KFC 😓
warm plinth
In-N-Out is only in uh...two states I think?
So we don't even have it everywhere here
wooden radish
yea, its western US only
warm plinth
I might be thinking of Whataburger though. I know they're both fairly limited though
brittle owl
what backwards corner of eu do you live in mwahi that you didn't have kfc
actually if i thi k about it not letting kfc in a country is actually good policy
wooden radish
you're safe as long you have a McDonalds. the US has never declared war on a country with a Mcdonalds
yes he is EU
and no im not EU
sand egret
ahem
sand egret
KFC, while inferior to Popeye's in the biscuit department, still without a fact is something to be excited for due to the existence of those wonderful biscuits.
Embrace those fluffy golden slices of heaven
sand egret
@ionic fern just make sure you ask to have your fries "animal style"
hallow phoenix
It was hyped up so much that when I got it I was just disappointed 😔
sand egret
like going to philly and not getting a traditional cheesesteak
hallow phoenix
Not bad by any means tho would eat again
sand egret
perty much
hallow phoenix
My town has a family run fast food burger joint lol
sand egret
that's kinda sick
hallow phoenix
Makes all other fast food suck
upper plaza
not missing much on sonics
upper plaza
slushes are alright, food is subpar, imho
must be southern state? they just walk up here in MI
hallow phoenix
I live same parallel as you
warm plinth
I'm NA
I also was victim of the overhyped In-N-Out. Good but not nearly good enough to live up to the expectations I had after people told me about it
hallow phoenix
Just like everything West coast amirite
warm plinth
The only restaurant listed so far that you're really missing out on is Chick-Fil-A. Even if you don't think the food is amazing (i think it's really good), the service is 👌
Literally the only restaurant to figure out how to smoothly operate a drive-thru when the restaurant is busy
upper plaza
@warm plinth i agree
hallow phoenix
Nearest Chick-fil-A is 200 miles away
upper plaza
fastest, busiest drive through i've been in
sand egret
yeah politics aside, their fucking chicken is 🔥
warm plinth
If you ever have a free day, and have another reason to go where it is, you should check it out lol
sand egret
worst part of Chik-fil-A is:
They aren't open on Sundays.
warm plinth
Yeah that really is the one negative (politics aside)
idk how many times I've woken up Sunday morning and been like you know what sounds good? Chick-Fil-A. Then I remember it's Sunday and my dreams are shattered.
upper plaza
we have one in an amusement park that we frequent, but we usually go on sundays - the kids are always sad that theyre not open!
sand egret
back in college that was a weekly moment of depression
warm plinth
😢
sand egret
somehow, every week I'd think about it, realize it's sunday, and be depressed (and hungover)
wintry olive
Haha, I got baited by the in-n-out hype when I moved to LA for college some years ago too. God damn, the let down was unreal. I liked their animal fries though.
Tbh, I preferred five guys to it or whatever the east coast equivalent was called.
All the other chain fast food places I don’t think I’ve been to since my early teens. Chick-fil-a I went to once and never again. Jack in the box I had set my mind in trying and then I turned in The door 🤮
hallow phoenix
Five guys is good
warm plinth
Yeah Five Guys is pretty good
upper plaza
five guys is pretty good, their fries arent half bad either
warm plinth
I went to In-N-Out and Whataburger in Texas because my boss (who is from there) said both were amazing. Wasn't super impressed by either of them, though they are decent.
The upside to Whataburger is you can get a decent burger 24 hours a day and not have to go to McDonald's
hallow phoenix
Compare them to five guys please
upper plaza
we just had Whalburgers open up close by, need to try that in a few weeks
hallow phoenix
McDs is 24/7 in some places?
warm plinth
Yeah but it's shit food
upper plaza
yup
warm plinth
Ours closes whenever they feel like it 😂
Supposed to be 24 hours a day but it's almost never open when we go there at night
sand egret
5 guys is great because they don't charge for additional toppings
so if you love to load that shit up like me
it's awesome
warm plinth
As far as Five Guys vs Whataburger, I'd still give Five Guys the win
upper plaza
on the other hand, if youre like my kid who only adds ketchup, it sucks haha
warm plinth
But I don't really see them as the same kind of restaurant tbh. Idk why
hallow phoenix
I like grilled green peppers and jalapenos when feeling fancy
warm plinth
Whataburger is very much a typical fast food burger joint
Five Guys doesn't really give me that same feel; it's more of a drive-in type place without the drive-in
sand egret
my burger is sky-high when i order it lol
sounds like im giving my dissertation when i'm ordering
upper plaza
lol
warm plinth
One of the best things about Five Guys is you can get raw onion on your burger
sand egret
YES
hallow phoenix
Noooo
sand egret
Raw onion + Japalenos
hallow phoenix
Grill that shit
sand egret
is the move
warm plinth
I don't dislike sauteed onions but on a burger I prefer raw. You get that nice crisp bite and you can taste them more
hallow phoenix
Bbq on the burger is good too
sand egret
for me it's a texture thing
hallow phoenix
Fair enough
sand egret
which is also why i don't like bacon on burgers
warm plinth
Or fuckin McDonald's where you get minced onions...like what
sand egret
(i love bacon)
warm plinth
Yeah bacon on a burger is almost always a bad idea.
sand egret
cuz you end up like pulling out a whole strip half the time
hallow phoenix
Burgers don't need that chewy bacon
warm plinth
Yeah, either it's not crispy enough or they've fried it to oblivion
sand egret
i feel the same way with tomatoes
hallow phoenix
Take it back blade
warm plinth
I dislike raw tomato personally. Have my whole life
warm plinth
Where are you from Blade?
sand egret
Boston
warm plinth
Oh yeah you're the guy whose voice I probably can't stand. 😂
wintry olive
I like a sunny side up egg on my burger 😲
sand egret
i don't really have an "accent" as far as shitty hollywood is concerned
sand egret
oh eggs on burgers is +++++
warm plinth
Dude one of the trainers in my network is from boston and she has an accent straight from a movie.
I think it might be the actual person the stereotype is based on
hallow phoenix
I like avocado on burgers though I think that's controversial
warm plinth
I've never had that, but it's not a super common topping
wintry olive
Haha, I love guac/avocado on burger !
warm plinth
I like avocado but not 100% sure I would like it on a burger tbh
wintry olive
But it’s gotta be spicy if guac
sand egret
i'm not really an avacado person, but i'd fuck with guac
warm plinth
If you had guac you'd have to have mostly dry toppings I would think
hallow phoenix
Almost no toppings actually
warm plinth
And it couldn't be a really greasy burger
hallow phoenix
There's a lot in guac
warm plinth
Yeah for sure
I'm a fat white guy in the United States so obviously I love guacamole. I would eat that.
sick sentinel
@warm plinth raw onion on burger is amazing
wintry olive
Yup. Anyone else put cheese inside their burgers before you cook em ?
hallow phoenix
Never have
sand egret
helps the burger from drying out while grilling
hallow phoenix
I will try both of these ideas
sick sentinel
https://open.spotify.com/track/2GMRcF3Mgzoz8d7fJjf7zG?si=3ui1yb3YS4OVRXAI-Z8q-g
this song is relevant to the conversation
hallow phoenix
You guys ever make your burger with bison?
sand egret
if you haven't done packed burgers, it's a really great way to prep it
yeeeep
i used to live in colorado and bison burgers were so a thing
wintry olive
Ah I don’t do butter. But cheese, spices, onions worchestershire sauce. All of it inside before cooking. Love it
warm plinth
I made burgers stuffed with feta once; so fuckin good
Though I'm not a great cook. I can never get stuffed burgers to stay together
sand egret
onion/jalapenos/pepper jack stuffed is the move
warm plinth
Oh yeah that might work 🤔
wintry olive
Hmmm, I’ll try pepper jack for the cheese. I often go with cheddar blend
sand egret
means you can throw lettuce + egg and not have to deal with the logistical nightmare of too many non-uniform toppings
hallow phoenix
I hate lettuce
wintry olive
Same
sand egret
:gasp:
hallow phoenix
Sorry
wintry olive
If my dish has lettuce. I won’t eat it haha
warm plinth
I don't hate it but like...I do not miss it at all when it's not there.
sand egret
it's 100% texture
warm plinth
Like lettuce doesn't serve a purpose to me
hallow phoenix
Onion is already there for crisp
sand egret
cool, crisp offset
wintry olive
Makes everything worse for me. It’s the opposite of butter
warm plinth
It's what people eat when they want to convince themselves the cheese and bacon in their salad is good for them
warm plinth
Idk man. Even with Chick-Fil-A where they actually put the lettuce on fresh, I end up taking it off
brittle owl
lettuce is nice
but it needs to not stay too long with acidic stuff
otherwise it wilts
warm plinth
But yeah most restaurants it's like they've had the lettuce on the burger for 2 days then they gave it to you
exotic spoke
@wintry olive how do you feel about tofu
hallow phoenix
Warm floppy lettuce
brittle owl
heat or vinegar/lemon juice will wilt lettuce in 3 mins
warm plinth
@outer dew is the best topping there ever will be. He's the topping on my heart ❤
brittle owl
too many restaurants give you your salad already dressed
exotic spoke
@warm plinth YOU RUINED MY JOKE
brittle owl
and the lettuce is always ruined
wintry olive
I almost fell for the bait !
exotic spoke
I was goin yo mock him
hallow phoenix
That's so sweet lol
exotic spoke
If he disliked tofu. Cause how could you dislike @outer dew
warm plinth
WOAH
exotic spoke
I’m saying you can’t dislike tofu. Everyone loves @outer dew
warm plinth
Last time Riki said something even remotely nice
warm plinth
I meant before that
exotic spoke
Facts can be nice. Also, I said something nice to someone on reddit yesterday
They have me gold
exotic spoke
Look - at least I haven’t been temp banned from a class discord yet
warm plinth
Yes and we're all proud of you
exotic spoke
thanks dad
warm plinth
😂
heady geode
Hey guys, i have a question...just got a new ring and im wondering if its better than the one in the middle of the picture...so if i use a 50haste socket and haste enchant on the first one, is it better for me than the one in the middle?
sick sentinel
use 2 socketed
heady geode
thanks for the fast answer 🙂
exotic spoke
^^ the sockets win there
heady geode
🙂
exotic spoke
Holes
warm plinth
I have to know what Baggerschiffs means lol
warm plinth
You're a dredger
hallow phoenix
Aw thanks
warm plinth
I'm gonna start calling people baggerschiffs
hallow phoenix
German was one of my favorite subjects cause like half the words are just smaller words concatenated together
Made learning new words really easy
strong forum
God I forgot how bad wow on German is..
sand egret
as someone who has to deal with Localization QA.......German is my arch-nemesis
strong forum
It looks so fucking nerdy for some reason
sand egret
"here's a nice laid out UI......ANNNNNND German doesn't fit"
cuz why not have a word with 156433626 letters
strong forum
It's just cringe for some reason
Even shows on German or any media in German instantly makes me cringe
hallow phoenix
Rechtsschutzversicherungsgesellschaften
sand egret
German be like:
"Why say 'Store' when you can say 'THATPLACEPEOPLEGOKINDAMAYBETOBUYSTUFFIFTHEYWANTNOPRESSURESCHNITZEL'"
warm plinth
😂
strong forum
Nopressureschnitzel my favourite
hallow phoenix
German is fun when you start spelling out large numbers
Eintausenddreihundertfunfundfunzig
1355
sand egret
funny localization story: A turn-based rpg launched recently and when they sent out their localization, they didn't send out context notes. So, when the studio who did the Loc returned the strings, they translated "Miss" (as in Hit/Miss) instead as (the language equivalent to) "Unmarried Woman". So if you popped evasion, the game would just keep displaying:
X swings....UNMARRIED WOMAN
hallow phoenix
Fraulein?
sand egret
not sure if it was in german
hallow phoenix
That's hilarious
strong forum
X swings... bitch
sand egret
I wanna say it was an asian developer translating into iberian spanish
but yeah, Loc can be hilarious some times. One of the studios I work with for Loc is wonderful at translating puns across languages
strong forum
The best job at localization I've ever seen are Bud Spencer and Terence Hill movies in German
Absolute peak
Literal top tier insults
exotic spoke
I used to work for Games Workshop when I was younger - in customer service
We once had a shipment held up at customs because it was labeled as “dwarf miners” and someone thought we were trafficking people
strong forum
Kek
exotic spoke
I fell a sleep after raid
Had to deal with officer shit
Also, o said post raid. I never said how soon after raid
analog swift
hhahaha teasing my man I had the same shit all the time when I was raid leading
sick sentinel
Raid leading... gross
As a protection warrior I find it is my purpose to make things difficult for raid leaders
exotic spoke
See, that’s small brain strats
Big brain Strat - be prot warrior / raid leader / officer and make all of the Raiders lives hard
analog swift
that was me
exotic spoke
Change your tanks mindsets and make them do dps as much as possible while tankin
Claim issues with damage are “healer problems”
And then just parse
analog swift
dude that's me
got a nice orange parse on our first queen's court kill
orange on prog feels so good
exotic spoke
When my guild stops, it won’t just be progress - it’ll be break time until at least next expac for mythic
That’ll be the last mythic guild on server
Gone
warm plinth
Are you on the big QA now?
exotic spoke
Court
And mainly cause our raid team is slowly shrinking due to burn out and we can’t replace
Thats why we’d be shutting down
sick sentinel
A bit unsure about whether i should pick 420 wrist with crit/haste/socket or 430 mastery/vers wrist
exotic spoke
I’d go 430
Sockets are worth, but not 10 ilvls on armor pieces imo. Some people go with 5 for armor and others for 10 ilvls on armor
sick sentinel
ahh i see
alpine shard
does gore crusted block count as a prot trinket when looking at trading personal loot to others?
as in, if i have a 440 block can i trade 440 prot-only trinkets to other people?
warm plinth
Butcher's block is on our loot table, so yes, you should be able to trade (for example) a 440 urchin to someone else. Just make sure you equip your block in both slots.
If you forget, it does work retroactively provided the 2 hour time frame is still active
alpine shard
alright thanks
hollow violet
I'm respeccing tonight to prot and I'm actually quite nervous about being an MT. I've tanked all the 5 mans so far as arms, but have rly been struggling in scholo/strat/BRS. What tanking guides do you recommend? I'm struggling especially so with pulls that require I tank 3 mobs. Part of it is because DPS don't know how to wait for sunders, but part of it is because i cant build enough threat on the third mob. Right now my rotation is: charge > berserker rage > whirlwind > battle stance > blood rage > demo shout > thunder clap > battleshout > defence stance > sunders + tab > once 3 sunders have stacked i start spamming shield block, revenge, and sunder. Ill overpower too any time it procs. Im always having to use taunt and mocking blow on that second and/or third mob, usually because dps start attacking before im through the rotation. Is my rotation bad? Should i begin sundering sooner?
warm plinth
This isn't for classic @hollow violet; check out #vanilla-discussion. They also have a classic warrior discord pinned in that channel iirc.
hollow violet
Sorry, wrong discord
warm plinth
All good
signal plover
mental scarab
Hows azhara M to tank as war? Rough?
brittle owl
any tank besides brew will have a rough time on azshara tbh
oblique garnet
It depends alot in which is your job in azshara
The one moving boss will struggle and its aids as warrior
brittle owl
heroic is a meme if you compare raw numbers, generally 🤷
mental scarab
Y
drowsy viper
Does anyone know what exactly the "health regen" corruption trait is referring to? Like, passive out of combat health regen?
brittle owl
seems like it
distant crystal
can't wait for mdi teams stacking that and running 1 tank 4 dps
drowsy viper
You would have to stack like 8 pieces of it to be a significant amount of healing
brittle owl
- health. PER. SECOND
drowsy viper
Unless passive health regen is way more than I think it is
distant crystal
actually there's a leech one too right
brittle owl
that's gonna be just as much of a meme as is stacking leech for a tank
warm plinth
Yeah the leech one would probably be better for a 4 DPS group
drowsy viper
I guess it depends on how much corruption we can reduce by the end of the expansion
A full set of 6% leech gear is the ultimate meme
warm plinth
With siphoning, of course
distant crystal
i think they said you'd be wearing like 4-5 corrupted pieces
by the end of the tier/expac
but who knows maybe people will get good at managing the downside
and use more
drowsy viper
30% leech ain't bad
brittle owl
honestly more than the tentacle and the slow one
warm plinth
Yeah but it's not enough for a tank to be fully self-sustaining on some bosses I don't think
brittle owl
is yikes for any group content
drowsy viper
Self heal warrior inc. Get a max titnanforged urchin before titanforging goes away
Starting to feel like a mop blood dk
warm plinth
Maybe if you had like an off healer(s)
brittle owl
woggers
warm plinth
Easy game
brittle owl
any tank + 4 hpalas is hidden speedrun meta
warm plinth
lol
high bough
Titanforging for EP isn't going away
distant crystal
errbody gets a kings and a wisdom
warm plinth
No, but loot still caps at 455 so it doesn't need to
drowsy viper
Honestly a fury warrior with a capped set of leech gear at the end of the expansion 🤔
Bout to start soloing uldir
warm plinth
lul
warm plinth
Yeah the power creep is gonna be a power sprint in this expansion I think lol
brittle owl
we're already monstrously op compared to 8.0
sand egret
not me. Imma sell all my gear and stick it to the man
warm plinth
you rebel
brittle owl
just click those popus that say you won an iphone
sand egret
hey, it's Friday and we got a 20 stack tower finally in DG. Today is a great day
brittle owl
let a chinese hacker do it
drowsy viper
In a somewhat related note, what essences do yall think are best for pure self-heal bullshit
warm plinth
Or go to the website that has 7152+ trustpilot reviews
drowsy viper
Nullification dynamo seems good
sick sentinel
out of combat you regenerate 1% of your health every 3 seconds
drowsy viper
Just for the minor, even
sick sentinel
so if you had 33% of your out of combat health regen in combat that would be as much HPS as impassive visage
drowsy viper
So if one were to get 10 pieces of 40% health regen 🤔
distant crystal
i think it'd be nice for ML tyrannnical keys
warm plinth
Well if you were just going for self-heal memes, either Crucible or Anima major, and then lucid/anima/crucible/vision minor probably?
distant crystal
have your group kick you with about a minute left on the azerokk fight
you'll get tp'd out, quickly respec and run back in
drowsy viper
Pure self heal memes, not viable for any tanking
warm plinth
Or well, never mind on vision I guess
or wait, is it the minor that heals or the major
warm plinth
Oh it's the minor
warm plinth
So yeah, what I said before
distant crystal
but lucid heals a lot more i think
warm plinth
Crucible/Anima major, then Lucid/anima/crucible/vision
distant crystal
i guess vision major lucid minor tho will combine for a bunch of selfheal
warm plinth
for minors
drowsy viper
Oh yeah, it's all coming together
warm plinth
Yeah you could do Vision major as well I guess. But tbh I think overall crucible would be more healing (feelycraft af)
distant crystal
i guess this tank didn't run lucid minor but
drowsy viper
Is crucible really that much healing?
distant crystal
drowsy viper
I have never used it in my life, it seems so shit
distant crystal
that's for an 18 UR
warm plinth
I mean, none of our essences heal a shitload except Anima
But it heals for the same amount as it damages (the major)
distant crystal
it's all about that lucid major Kappa
drowsy viper
Hm. This is gonna take some experimenting. I'm going for the full meme warrior dream
Gonna solo farm that jaina mount by the end of the expansion
warm plinth
Oh yeah I forgot lucid major gives you leech LUL
sick sentinel
1021 leech
warm plinth
Which is actually a lot of leech
sand egret
i ran lucid major for a bit last week ngl
sick sentinel
25.52%
drowsy viper
But then the real question is, will all of that combined be more healing than fury warrior with a full set of leech gear
Holy shit that is alot of leech
sand egret
yeah it's ~25%
sick sentinel
I literally said the exact number
sand egret
for your neck level
warm plinth
But only for 15 seconds every 2 minutes :/
sick sentinel
70
distant crystal
spriests can stay in downphase on zaqul forever
sick sentinel
you're sandbagging if you have anything less tbh
sand egret
you're a sandbag
drowsy viper
Gottem
warm plinth
Define sandbagging
sick sentinel
warm plinth
Because I don't have 70 on any of my toons and I play all the time. I just don't do things that give a ton of AP
warm plinth
I wasn't offended; I was just saying that it actually does take some effort to get it
drowsy viper
So what do yall think about the trinket options in nyalotha
warm plinth
Like effort at actually getting AP on purpose
drowsy viper
Both legitimately and for meme self heal
sick sentinel
I will use alchemy trinket+rezans/goreblock anyway
I don't even know what the new trinkets do
sick sentinel
just skip him
drowsy viper
400 IQ
warm plinth
ikr
sick sentinel
what kind of retarded cd is that
warm plinth
But yeah skipping him is better
The nerve of that assumption
Also I'm annoyed there's no vers on that. Support havoc DH or riot
😠
sand egret
ew no vers?
wait, why am i supporting vers
also going to point out, that first trinket has identical shield values as Bandages. 😄
I bet it'll behave like it too..... 🤔
also wondering if that second trinket will apply that damage taken after all, or prior to certain mitigation checks
lusty grotto
excuse me, im Toxic chip