protection

[brittle owl]

technically forged

[warm plinth]

lol

[distant crystal]

my previous fake-titanforge

[warm plinth]

That's disgusting

[distant crystal]

😤

[sand egret]

from a systemic perspective gearing is simply the power creep for progression. In a sense it is both a reward (in respect to the fact that you are granted it for doing X thing) but it's also a tool (as fights are designed/tuned around certain thresholds). The big difference between perspectives is how you view the accomplishment. Does it get value in simply doing it or do you need some overt way to validate and quantify that accomplishment, this is where power creep/gear comes into play. An interesting example of something that actually splits this otherwise intrinsic relationship is the Alagalon achievement.

[brittle owl]

i feel like this debate is going on more than it should

[weary thorn]

wee woo wee woo discussion police

[brittle owl]

inb4 someone comes in and says

'fkin elitist pricks'

[warm plinth]

I feel like I'm back at ej.com

[brittle owl]

remember afking in full tierset in a major city

[sand egret]

well part of the "prestige" feeling that people are clawing for (some without being able to articulate it) was lost when transmog came into play, for better or worse.

[warm plinth]

Yeah I do think it was cool when the gear you were wearing spoke to your progress

[sand egret]

tier 3 used to be the badass sign, untilt he BMAH just made it a pay sink

[warm plinth]

But now I don't even recognize gear half the time because everyone has it transmogged

[sand egret]

basically, so the only important thing is the numerical data on it

[brittle owl]

uhmm no wtf

the only important thing is if it has leech or not

obviously

[sand egret]

that's numerical data

[brittle owl]

no leech is leech

[sand egret]

of a numerical value

[warm plinth]

Say numerical one more time Blade

[brittle owl]

no, it is succ value

[sand egret]

based on your numerical damage values

[weary thorn]

but what number of succ

[brittle owl]

no it's degree of succ

[weary thorn]

which is usually expressed...numerically

[brittle owl]

it can be small succ, slightly more succ, succ, slightly more succ etc etc

at the end you have full succ

idk why but this is my hill to die on now

[weary thorn]

hmm, I'll have to keep my eyes peeled for the maelkenar tooltip replacing numerical values with the vagaries of degrees of succ

[sand egret]

don't think you'll have much SUCCess with this crusade.

[brittle owl]

succs to think that tbh

[sick sentinel]

God dammit, it happened again another cursed tinket

now i got 440 spores AND button

FML

[brittle owl]

spores give tiny succ sometimes

so not good

[strong forum]

Tfw you don't care about weekly chest anymore...

[sick sentinel]

I've gotten an upgrade every single week

this tier

last tier was horrible

even if its for fury offspec

[strong forum]

1 piece here

Cuz it needs to be 450+ to be even considerable 🙃

If I get getikku, weekly chest is literally worthless besides stacking TR for next tier

[sick sentinel]

well yeah I'm 444

but I keep getting lucky sockets

and stat upgrades

[strong forum]

Stuck at 448.5, half my guild is 450... Kinda annoying

[sick sentinel]

my guild doesnt have enough for mythic since classic release 😦

havent touched a single mythic boss

[weary thorn]

oof

[strong forum]

Yikes

[sick sentinel]

we just clear heroic over and over and over

most of the time 1 shot

we're all way over geared

[strong forum]

Said it before, will say it again, will continue to say it.
Imagine dropping retail for classic

We didn't lose a single person to it

[sick sentinel]

I play classic sometimes but retail is where my heart is at

our whole server got hit HARD

Is lingering sporepod good for AoE?

[strong forum]

No

It's

[distant crystal]

i made it to level 13 in classic

[strong forum]

22 here

[distant crystal]

i've logged in a few times since then and got bored before i made it to my quest objectives

[sick sentinel]

phial of the arcane tempest is what I use sometimes on skittish weeks

[distant crystal]

and logged back out

lol

[strong forum]

But only cuz I had 2 week vacation and was bored out of my mind

Phial is decent

[sick sentinel]

I'm 35 I just log in super late at night sometimes

[strong forum]

But skittish shouldn't exist for any tank anymore

Tbh

It's a non affix

[sick sentinel]

nah I know, especially for a warrior

our threat is crazy already

but, sometimes I help people get their keys done and stuff and watch movies at the same time

[distant crystal]

if your group has meme beam up and you don't have avatar up

and no rogue

[sick sentinel]

so phial just makes it easier lol

[strong forum]

Even then waat

[distant crystal]

they might look at a dps for a couple seconds at least

[strong forum]

If a dps rips threat off of you. Kinda weirdW

Well that's fine

Cuz that doesn't do anything

[distant crystal]

or if you're a rogue who gives tricks to party1

and the tank isn't party1

and you bte :p

killed a poor havoc dh like that on a proximity pot + lust pull at the beginning of ad 19 last week

oof

[sick sentinel]

nomeratur, how much haste is too much haste do you think?

[distant crystal]

all of it

[brittle owl]

if you get by with full sb/cd/external coverage on packs and bosses

haste becomes redundant in m+

but thats a lot of haste

[weary thorn]

you're likely looking at beyond 40% including ITF before it becomes redundant

[brittle owl]

achievable next patch

[strong forum]

2k

2k haste is a fuckton and you should maybe invest into more crit

I'm at 1.5-1.7k but only 1k crit

[brittle owl]

that sounds like a blanket statement

and it doesn't apply to all scenarios/cases

[wanton terrace]

445 high Crit/Mastery shield or 440 high Vers/Crit shield with Socket?

[weary thorn]

he answered the question based on how it was asked though

[west kayak]

Shield is always ilvl.

[wanton terrace]

alrighty, ty

[knotty vortex]

weapon for prot? is ilvl king i have a 445 vs a 430 dreams end. thoughts?

[strong forum]

445

[mossy rover]

are prot warriors fun? 🙂

[distant crystal]

ye

but this is a biased place to ask that

[mossy rover]

im aware of that :p

looking to alt an tank

[static bane]

Ive played BM and Prot warrior and I prefer Prot warrior because of the damage

BM is nice but i would certainly consider it boring even if the abilities "sound" cool

Nothing beats a thunderclap with the glyph imho.

[mossy rover]

yeah im torn between DK and warrior

[distant crystal]

well between those two there's no competition

warrior easily

[warm plinth]

Fun is subjective but having played both of those tanks, warrior is definitely more fun.

[mossy rover]

yeah ive only ever played DK tank before, never touched warrior

[warm plinth]

Warrior is more of a proactive feel (though in fairness, great DKs are very proactive), and you'll be filling all of your globals.

[wraith cave]

best shield to get from m+

[warm plinth]

I think the ML one is crit/haste so that's probably the "best" one. But your highest ilevel shield is the best one regardless of stats.

[wraith cave]

tyvm

[lapis topaz]

How does spell reflect work on cyclone strike in first boss of ToS? The blockable spreadsheet says:

Only works if initial cast doesn't target you - avoid if starts at you!
So... Assuming it's targetted at someone else, I pop spell reflection then get into LoS of the cyclones, or..? It's weird that it has to target someone else, right?

[exotic spoke]

Yes

Thats basically how it works encoded

Do not move away from the boss as he casts cyclones either. Otherwise you'll get hit by them a second time (the first set is reflected and the second one murders you)

[lapis topaz]

Thanks. Hoping to try that out this week

[analog swift]

ideally you should have all of your melee stacked up on you anyway so everyone can jsut run through the boss and not have to worry about where he is facing

[grave marsh]

is the punchcard for dodging any good?

[lapis topaz]

Good tip Danger, thank you.

[fast karma]

Yall. Whats better? Loop of Pulsing Veins with Haste Mast or Overseer's? Both at 440.

[brittle owl]

@grave marsh nope. its a good meme, anything other than cyclo is wasted in the mecha trinket

unless you literally dont have any trinkets

in which case you could use overclock

[grave marsh]

i've got a 415 overclock, but havent found a cyclo yet

[brittle owl]

cyclotronic blast is from.the vendor

[grave marsh]

oh

[outer oriole]

just got Briny Barnacle ilvl 455, is this any good? playing mostly M +

[hushed cobalt]

I have a 445+socket and its ~2-4% of overall damage

[sick sentinel]

445 servant spliiter main hand or a crit hazste 440 main hand? hmm

[lunar jackal]

Guys for m+ CnS or aegis of the deep? I run up to 18s now but planning on going higher

Im using lucid dreams in the other minor

[grave marsh]

is the root really that strong?

[exotic spoke]

That’s sphere. CnS and aegis give vers

[sweet summit]

@sick sentinel ilvl always for weapon

[floral sphinx]

any changes happening in 8.3?

to warriors

[sand egret]

no direct changes

"yet"

build is still a baby so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[floral sphinx]

yea thats true

[static bane]

I thought i was supposed to be running Memory Major

[floral sphinx]

ive never heard of that

[static bane]

Vision of perfection sorry

Memory minor

Null barrier as 2nd minor

[floral sphinx]

i use memory minor only cause i dont have conflict and strife

[sand egret]

if you're referring to the comments above, i'm pretty sure they're talking about minors

[static bane]

Ah.

[floral sphinx]

actually im sorry i use aegis mostly

[oblique garnet]

@static bane in what context?

[static bane]

M+

[oblique garnet]

null isnt worth it in most dungeons

sphere does much more

[steep wraith]

Does sphere proc on bosses?

[warm plinth]

Sphere is used for the minor, for the stat buff. The movement speed debuff from the minor does not affect anything that other slows don't already affect. AFAIK the major does work on bosses but it's just not good enough to outshine other essences in the major slot.

[steep wraith]

Yeah, I heard that if bosses are immune to slows that you don't gain the haste buff either

Maybe I was lied to

[warm plinth]

No way that's the case. They're completely different effects.

The movement speed is a debuff on the boss while the haste buff is a buff on you.

[oblique garnet]

@steep wraith You were lied to becaue all raid bosses are immune to slows and you still have the buff up

[limpid pawn]

for m+

i have 440 bracers, pants, and gloves now with sockets

and also 445 versions of them.

UGH - the sockets win out im assuming?

[warm plinth]

Probably

[limpid pawn]

is stacking haste just the best option in general for M+

[warm plinth]

No, the most total stats is the best option. But sockets add a ton of stats that should be better than a 5 ilevel difference, especially on lower budget items like bracers or gloves (probably any slot could lose 5 ilevel for a socket besides weapon/shield)

[limpid pawn]

i meant for gem slots

i have haste in all my gem slots atm, except a 120 str one in my trinket

[warm plinth]

Oh, you should use both strength gems

[limpid pawn]

really?

the 80 str one is also worth it over haste?

[wild sandal]

would 430 vison of demise be better to use that razan 450, for ST dps, sims puts razan higher but im not sure if it counts the HP loss of the target

[limpid pawn]

can't imagine the vision keeping up with a 450 rezan

[distant crystal]

vision is pretty bad

i would take 450 rezan over 450 vision

[wild sandal]

ok , thank you

[warm plinth]

@limpid pawn Yes, 80 str is better than 50 haste.

[static bane]

So you use leviathan and kraken eyes and then haste from there?

[analog swift]

is sphere minor worth anything past rank 1?

[warm plinth]

Yes Sky

[static bane]

Damn sphere looks good

Looks like rank 2 is worth the minor for the extra 2s

Ah ok this is basically earned the same way as blood of the enemy but tank spec

[warm plinth]

Yeah

And yeah the minor is good to have R2 of. R3 I think does nothing for the minor so it's not important.

[static bane]

Okay so if i already got BoTE can I get Sphere? Id assume there must be a way

[distant crystal]

yeah you buy it

with marks of honor

[onyx vessel]

Will be cheaper too

[static bane]

Oh cool

[waxen cradle]

What ya guys think Kraken Shell Pauldrons or Skyschorcher ?

I am leaning towards Kraken Shell but just looking for opinions

[warm plinth]

I'd go with Kraken Shell. Bastion, MS, UF

[fierce juniper]

Skyscorcher has much better defensive traits assuming you already have a DC. Kraken Shell is going to be better for dps

but you should sim regardless if that's what you're going for

[waxen cradle]

thanks yeah I will just sim most likely

[oblique garnet]

Id go with Kraken Shell assuming your shield is not like 400ilvl

[warm plinth]

That's a fair point too 😂

[waxen cradle]

no its 445

I have 2 not the ones I want but they are 445 so hey

[autumn pendant]

Marok in chat 👀

[warm plinth]

I got ashvane cuirass for my warrior's first 445 piece. Pretty awesome. Kept my 3x Bastion so far

[oblique garnet]

Im like 8 gambles deep on the chest

[warm plinth]

RIP

[somber sky]

Is it really ?

that's 455 btw

[distant crystal]

i mean look how much healiing it did compared to what, 415 prism?

[somber sky]

well prism has insane uptime

[oblique garnet]

those are 430 btw

[somber sky]

damn you spam the frick out of IP

i'm doing something wrong

y'all prio IP over shield block?

[oblique garnet]

no

[warm plinth]

No

But you will by their nature get a lot more casts of IP than Shield Block. Either dumping rage or just the fact that Shield Block has a CD and IP doesn't.

[somber sky]

fair enuf

[warm plinth]

Assuming you're not dumping rage with Revenge

which is possible if you're going full DPS

[somber sky]

I'm not surprisingly

wait

yeah i am then 😦

[oblique garnet]

My dps in the sale with the 2 tank trinkets it isnt too bad but without them would be higher

[distant crystal]

damn what a slave to the meta you are

triple fire mage

[warm plinth]

lolol

[somber sky]

xd

that ret was 395 idk how he did that low damage

no rebukes, no bubbles, no BoPs

[near ivy]

its because hes bad

[warm plinth]

Another thing to consider btw is that the Diamond can't overheal because it's an absorb, while lingering sporepods is a random af proc and doesn't actually heal til 4 seconds AFTER the proc. So chances are it has pretty high overhealing.

[distant crystal]

he was just wearing holy gear

forgot you could go outside and change

[near ivy]

even then

[near ivy]

he's still bad

[oblique garnet]

2x Fire mage with bolstering doesnt feel good tho xd

[distant crystal]

diamond is like the ideal tank healing/absorb trinket

[warm plinth]

Lol 65% overhealing? Yikes

[distant crystal]

incremental addition

[warm plinth]

Well diamond and urchin since urchin doesn't heal unless you're injured

[distant crystal]

you're almost never going to have even a few hp of wasted shield

[somber sky]

yeah but i ran a kr before this and there was a much smaller overhealing. like about 25%

does damage prio diamond over IP?

[distant crystal]

i think it's whatever went on last

not sure tho

[somber sky]

oh so if i IP, a portion of my barrier is damage and a portion of IP

[warm plinth]

Doesn't really matter either way, does it? Either way it's stopping x amount of damage. Having IP up just makes the shield last longer.

[sick sentinel]

It prios diamond

Fully

No ghash

[distant crystal]

so your ip won't take any dmg

[near ivy]

it does matter

[sick sentinel]

Yes @distant crystal

[distant crystal]

until diamond is depleted?

[somber sky]

wait then that's wasted rage right?

if i overlap?

[warm plinth]

I mean, you will waste rage at some point

[near ivy]

its (kinda)wasted rage if you hit IP while you already have an IP

[distant crystal]

i mean your diamond should get depleted pretty quick

in any given pull

[sick sentinel]

If it benefits your anger management

[near ivy]

you would rather it hit your IP shield than your diamond shield

[warm plinth]

Because you had to prevent overcapping and revenge was free. Either way it affects your Anger Management CDR

[sick sentinel]

Then it's not wasted

[somber sky]

according to what kaege siad, i'll have to wait for barrier to be down so i IP to efficiently use rage

[distant crystal]

naw

[near ivy]

yes

[somber sky]

until then SB?

[sick sentinel]

That's the wrong play

[near ivy]

the question is do you want to "efficiently" use rage

[warm plinth]

No, you shouldn't be putting that much thought into it.

[near ivy]

you should have SB up before IP

[warm plinth]

Using rage is better than overcapping rage

[near ivy]

assuming what you are fighting is physical

[warm plinth]

Even if it's into a "wasted" IP

[near ivy]

^^

[sick sentinel]

Just push your buttons

[somber sky]

okay

[distant crystal]

like even a full diamond should get depleted by like 2-3 melees max

[warm plinth]

Diamond should not change your playstyle

[somber sky]

just dont want to spam SS and clap

[near ivy]

it wont change your playstyle

[distant crystal]

it just might change your healer's playstyle a little 🙂

[somber sky]

yeah the KR i ran, the healer went full dps until i started taking damage

[oblique garnet]

🤔

[somber sky]

which was like aobut 4-5 seconds xD

It's just that i'm hardstuck with my 415 diamond. never lucky with other tank trinks

[near ivy]

the healer did something other than healing when there was no healing to be done?

[somber sky]

i'd like to assume that's the case.

[near ivy]

so would i

[distant crystal]

that's when you check twitter

and paste your geti'ikku in #fury

[near ivy]

getting 450 getti is really easy tho?

you just need to plagiarise archi

[somber sky]

I've never gotten lucky with geti. only sittingon 430

[distant crystal]

all i did was a scuffed weekly 10

ezpz

[somber sky]

:C

[distant crystal]

i dug up staraters link last night

gotta save this one

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/626552871445331979/unknown.png

[distant crystal]

orange is no fun

[near ivy]

ok

[static bane]

I got some Kraken Shell Pauldrons today from residduum, that Meticulous Scheming good?

[distant crystal]

ye MS or DC is lovely

[static bane]

I already have 2x DC on my other pieces so I think Ill try this MS out

[warm plinth]

MS if you already have a DC; otherwise, DC

[distant crystal]

hm

much betta

[static bane]

Icite the Pack or Bloodsport? I have 1x DC, 2x Bastion, 1x Clockwork Heart, 1x Meticulous Scheming

[distant crystal]

incite

[static bane]

Gotcha, the mastery proc looks good

[distant crystal]

bloodsport is pretty poopy

[static bane]

20 second proc

[hearty lichen]

anyone do any keys yet? i wasnt getting victory rush procs from explosives

[undone sun]

Got the killing blow?

[hearty lichen]

yes

[distant crystal]

that would be an annoying stealth nerf

[hearty lichen]

yea i was in KR and in discord

on minion of xul

zul

and that was when i realized it

[distant crystal]

next they're gonna take our orbs on last boss UR

[hearty lichen]

nooo then i cant solo the boss on 19 fort lol

[exotic spoke]

@distant crystal I love the icon

I had KBs and got VRs earlier

PS - pinging every single warrior in Gallywix is a good way for literally everyone to hate you

[terse dragon]

did you guys notice no victory rushes from orbs now?

[exotic spoke]

Can you scroll up to the messages right before you posted?

[terse dragon]

damn..

nerfed!!

[oblique garnet]

?

[undone sun]

Hmmm

Wouldn't jump to conclusions just yet

[terse dragon]

yeah could be a bug

[spice ferry]

if its undocumented its jsut as likely as a bug as it is a feature

[hearty lichen]

@exotic spoke I apologized as I didnt see why it would be a big deal tbh. But its definitely not giving VRs

[exotic spoke]

The issue being - people expect pings to be to make gold in a carry disc.

[hearty lichen]

Yes but the ping was in mythic plus chat. Not in a key channel, it was a channel meant for discussion

[pallid berry]

so is ascended alchemy stone better then a heroic edicts?

its higher ilvl, but itsbetween that, the stone or the bloodthirsty urchin

[stray sparrow]

thinking bout coming back to BFA. how are prot warriors in mythic + and raids?

i see monk tanks are usually for mythic +?

[pallid berry]

uhhh far as iknow warriors are still really good for m+

[warm plinth]

They are.

We're right up there with monks in representation.

[sick sentinel]

@hearty lichen it doesn't matter what channel it was, the notification shows up as Gallywix.

[exotic spoke]

What banshee said

sorry was mid raid

@stray sparrow Prot are really good for M+. Monks are getting nerfed too

[hearty lichen]

@sick sentinel i get it. i apologized, reading the channel is hard.

[sick sentinel]

Clearly you don't, but take care.

[sand relic]

whats the best defensive tanks

[sick sentinel]

Oh no... /flees

[sand relic]

love u

[hearty lichen]

clearly you and riki use discord like a personal cell phone messaging plan and dont know how to ignore shit that can be muted or easily seen as something you dont need to respond to, and clearly neither of you can stay on topic.

[exotic spoke]

Its not just me man

Its the majority of people that use gallywix where if you ping everyone at a role people flip because they are expecting gold

You'll see that like no one else pings large number of people either 😛

But it’s whatever - just don’t be like that priest who was pinging just to troll

[sick sentinel]

If I mute pings on Gallywix then I can't make gold... HELLO?

[grave marsh]

Azerite veins is good for us, right?

[warm plinth]

Not really

[grave marsh]

if it was going against unstable flames and Blood Siphon?

or is blood siphon better?

[warm plinth]

Unstable

[distant crystal]

ohh thx @exotic spoke

every platey in my guild is crying about it tonight

lol

[exotic spoke]

I got a 445 inkpod, and 450 socketed 1 hander tonight

[distant crystal]

noice

i replaced a 445 inkpod with a 445 socket inkpod on my rogue 😮

[exotic spoke]

And orgozoa killed on first pull tonight

It was a good night

[sick sentinel]

Not even a socketed zaqul wep

Smh

[ionic fern]

Feels bad

[sick sentinel]

https://i.imgur.com/TnqI6YA.png https://i.imgur.com/4a6xdNg.png which one for m+?

running this one 2nd https://i.imgur.com/YtONkTz.png

[ionic fern]

That blue card tho.
I'd use Rezan's in this scenario.

[sick sentinel]

do any of you actually use undulating tides

[strong forum]

For parsing, some do

It's good dmg if you don't proc it 24/7

[sick sentinel]

it seems like it does good for me

but I finally got a 445 with bastion on it (and meticulous)

compared to my 430 with bastion and undulated

my other 2 pieces are 445

[ionic fern]

I'd take the 445.

👌

+15 ilvl and BoM/MS.

[sick sentinel]

yeah

meticulous I would imagine is good? for offensive and and defensive

I've never used it

[ionic fern]

Jeah, it's really good. : )

[sick sentinel]

sweet

hopefully I can get some mythic kills soon and get a undulating on another piece or something

444 with no mythic kills -.-

thanks man

[ionic fern]

Smh

TF at its finest.

[strong forum]

MS is the best trait you could get

[hallow phoenix]

I was pleasantly surprised by its DPS value in sims

I just run BoM + MS now in raids instead of BoM + RF. Saves on reforging and only sims like 100 lower

Now if only the shoulders would drop

[sick sentinel]

im running blood rite on another piece

and its proccing pretting often

pretty

god im tired

[sick sentinel]

[stoic pilot]

There’s one issue I have with MS and I can’t tell if it’s just bad rng or it just bugs out frequently lol

It will drop to like 10% uptime for me randomly until I re-equip

And it’s frequent enough to annoy me

Was a stable 10% on 3 bosses the other night until I re-equipped gear and then shot back up to normal 30%+

[sweet summit]

The haste buff itself is called something else i believe

[stoic pilot]

I know what the buff is called

The uptime on buff will drop to 10% lol

[sweet summit]

Hmmm weird

[stoic pilot]

I ended up making a weakaura for the initial trigger so I should notice if it’s not proccing as much as it should

It’s just annoying that it messes up this frequently because I do have 2 of them so it’s significant when it doesn’t work properly

Like on Sivara, seize the moment procced literally one time

[strong forum]

Ye you might be onto smth

On court I had 10% uptime, 1 proc, over 7min30sec

But on an earlier day on orgo I had 46% uptime on seize the moment 13 procs over 7 min

And 34% uptime on ashvane

That's kinda insane

[sick sentinel]

The variance is big on it

you can check the dps swings in raidbots

[strong forum]

Ye I just checked same evening

Goes from 1 proc up to 7 procs

Giga rng

From 10% uptime to over 30% uptime

[sick sentinel]

That's why I don't like using it much

Id rather have BFI/ RF

[strong forum]

I love it

1.8k haste procs

[sweet summit]

So MS is not rppm just straigt up random?

[strong forum]

Think it's more like rppd

[sweet summit]

Lmao

[strong forum]

Relative procs per day

[sweet summit]

Well fuck 🙂

[clear carbon]

Is cyclotronic worth it for Prot warrior in regards to single target? I lose a ton of strength and haste proc replacing a 445 rezans

[sweet summit]

It does a lot of damage, you can sim to see if it is a dps upgrade. But keep in mind you cant block attacks while channeling and casting it

[clear carbon]

Appreciate that, yeah, I guess it’s more of a raid trinket. I was thinking about using it on mythic ashvane

[ionic fern]

It's pretty decent there especially if it lines up.
I could use mine on pull and then the next one right before the new carapace went up.

[clear carbon]

Appreciate that, I’m trying to pump more damage as survivability isn’t really a huge issue

I’m noticing that I have this bad habit of over ignore paining lol, gonna dump rage into revenge more often

[strong forum]

It's like 1.5k dps

So if you're pushing for ST dmg it's defo worth

It's good to cap IP over rage capping.

I'm capping IP a fuckton cuz I don't get use revenge alot

[stoic pilot]

Anyone ready for the rise of mechagnomes with that heal racial and 400 main stat permanently lmao

The self heal can even crit which is absurd, free 40% heal potentially every min and a half

[strong forum]

Itll get nerfed to the ground

100%

That's too strong in any way shape or form

Same as zand was on ptr

Otherwise it's gonna be the race for pve and pvp

[brittle owl]

yeah

but that's just common sense

[stoic pilot]

yeah

but hey, if you go mechagnome you can pick lock the doors in tol'dagor

pretty handy

[brittle owl]

or just get a rogue jfc did you see those lil buggers

horrid

[stoic pilot]

amazin

sucks that half the mog doesn't work with them though

[sick sentinel]

Hey can someone tell me what AGB is. My guildies keep talking about it

[strong forum]

Isn't that the thing you read before starting a game for the first time

And scroll to the very bottom and just click accept

instead of reading it cuz it's way too long

[sick sentinel]

That’s EULA

It’s like some community for selling keys I just don’t know the full name

[ionic fern]

😒

Just google it.

[strong forum]

That's what I get from AGB.
Must be because im German and AGB stands for what's described there

[ionic fern]

😂

[exotic spoke]

@strong forum I don’t think mechagnome main stat will get nerfed

Heal - maybe, but not the main stat

[strong forum]

DID racial got nerfed from 900 and 300 per dispell to 600 and 200

So this could very well happen too

[exotic spoke]

Space goat is more strength and it’s passive all the time

[strong forum]

Really now

[exotic spoke]

Yes

Mechagnome caps at 400. Space goats are just a flat 425 I believe

[ember arrow]

Wow good?

[strong forum]

Oh shit 425

I never knew

Or just completely forgot about it

Guess it's minor

But I mean the heal is the broken part

Quite the safety net

[exotic spoke]

Truth

[sand egret]

wish they made a trinket that did that

[strong forum]

They did

It was garbage

[exotic spoke]

Lol

[strong forum]

Bobs bargain

[sand egret]

perhaps, literal garbage?

[strong forum]

Xalzaiz was decent, but I could never get my hands on it back then

As a trinket such an ability isn't that great, but as a free racial proc it's quite something

[sand egret]

Im just trolling you as the logic behind why everyone was saying why it was shit still stands. “If you’re getting that low then you got other problems” or “if you’re in that situation you’re already dead”

among other things

[exotic spoke]

I mean - I’m dead inside

[sand egret]

so its a dead racial for a huge portion if not 100% of the time in many scenarios

just pointing out the slight irony to spice up mah mornin’

❤ you Riki

[exotic spoke]

Oh I agree. I don’t think they are that OP

Awww Thanks! ❤ you too

[strong forum]

As a trinket choice there's stuff that's better, as a free racial thats always active and on a lower CD than said trinkets, it's quite strong

[exotic spoke]

Now the question is - do u save TR or do I random them for an OS I don’t play

[strong forum]

Save up

[exotic spoke]

That’s what I’m leaning towards

Got the dream set up for defensives

[strong forum]

All I did with my TR was item restore some stuff I scrapped to get better prot stuff

[exotic spoke]

And a decent offensive set up

[strong forum]

So now I have quite good arms azerite and bis prot

And will save up for 8.3

[exotic spoke]

Double MS is pretty good

[strong forum]

Ye

Feels good

[sand egret]

Well, if opportunity cost is the focal point, then it goes back to use/no use. This also applies to the cooldown. 10 minute of 15 seconds, if its never used due to gear/proper play/etc. then it has 0 value.

id still pick dorf, imho

beard is good 100% of the time

[strong forum]

That is true

Can't argue against that

Beard is love, beard is life.

[sand egret]

but yeah it seems strong, just cant ignore the tinge of irony in the rhetoric 🙂

[trail bay]

doest victory rush proc from killing explosives anymore?

[strong forum]

Well im thinking pvp mostly

I've heard that it doesn't anymore since today, might be stealth nerf or bug

But I can't confirm

[sand egret]

ewww really? thats like the best part of explosive week

[strong forum]

Yup

Wanted to hit 40k overall hps this week...

With edict + urchin insanity

[sweet summit]

What
The
Fuck
Really?

[strong forum]

I hope its just a bug

Not a stealth nerf

[exotic spoke]

I thought I had some yesterday early afternoon but I could be wrong

[warm plinth]

@exotic spoke

That's at 120. It's not 425 :p

[strong forum]

According to wowhead its 425

[warm plinth]

Well, they've been wrong before. That's from my own character

[strong forum]

78 is not even 0.1%

So that must be a bug tbh

Cuz a racial is never this useless

[warm plinth]

Err, they're not? HMT racial is a whole 77 damage reduction from each attack.

at 120

[warm plinth]

So not only is the tooltip for my Draenei's racial bugged, but my HMT's tooltip is also bugged? That seems unlikely.

[strong forum]

No idea fam

[shadow tapir]

Anyone willing to take a glance at my current azerite options and give an opinion on lower pieces being worth slotting in?

[warm plinth]

Unless you're going for strictly DPS, I'd keep what you have. You can sim it otherwise.

[strong forum]

Your shoulders are fucked, but ye it's the best setup you could use

[exotic spoke]

@warm plinth I don’t have a space goat anymore but 425 seems accurate so i don’t know what to say

[slender light]

How good/bad is Jee' Howler?

[exotic spoke]

It has defensive value. It helps your party.

Overall pretty solid

[slender light]

got a Rezan 435 and pocket with 1200h proc 171h and 57vers and Jee's Howler at 440 w/socket what would u use for m+ ?

[shadow tapir]

Thanks for the feedback, I figured it was turrrribble 😦

[exotic spoke]

Probably howler. What’s the pocket over Ilvl?

[slender light]

415

[exotic spoke]

Howler / rezans personally

[slender light]

guess howler has a good ammount of dps value for the group itseld that should not be negleted either

[exotic spoke]

Pretty much. And vers isn’t bad

Guys... guys I’m worried! I just got a call from the social security administration saying that my social security number has been sued for several fraudulent activities and I may lose my social security benefits if I don’t call this random number back

[warm plinth]

I bet it's a Nigerian prince

And he wants you to western union him some money so he can send you money or he'll arrest your family

[exotic spoke]

I better do that!

[analog swift]

dude my favorite nigerian prince scam i ever heard

along the lines of "we are going to smuggle 2 million dollars into the US, it's covered in this specific ink that stops border patrol from seeing it. If you help us you can have a cut of $100,000 (or w/e). We need you to help us, if you buy this specific ink from this website (that costs multiple thousands of dollars) it can remove the ink from the money" hahahahahaha

[warm plinth]

lul

[peak lily]

What are you guys running as second minor in m+? thinking keys around 14-18

vision major, lucid minor+?

[sick sentinel]

Vop major, cns+sphere minors

[peak lily]

conflict and strife is that strong?

[sick sentinel]

It's really strong

[peak lily]

guess i have to do pvp 😛

[sick sentinel]

Unless if you stop between pulls

If you're using it you need to GO

And never stop going

[exotic spoke]

Never stop never stopping

[peak lily]

so i guess it depends on the week(affix) then

[exotic spoke]

Yeah, I’m working on CnS / sphere. Though I don’t know if I’m able to use both. Started toying with undying gift Major

[stoic pilot]

i like vision, aegis, cns / lucid

[warm plinth]

I'm using Vision/aegis/lucid atm but my choices are limited since I haven't been 120 for long

[strong forum]

Ye same ghash, too lazy to cap conquest and never gotten sphere

[stoic pilot]

I’ve tried it but was never a big fan of sphere idk

[strong forum]

Good thing about sphere is you only need r1, but cba bg/epic bg/pvp island

[glacial flint]

@peak lily

[warm plinth]

Yeah I think r2 just makes the duration longer and gives speed? But it procs on every hit received anyway right?

[strong forum]

It was some useless shit ye

[warm plinth]

So I guess I could get that, but like

PvP :/

[strong forum]

Pvp is fine, it's the bg aspec that is annoying

[warm plinth]

Especially epic BGs

[strong forum]

For all I know it could take weeks to win an epic bg as horde

[warm plinth]

Which are basically all of my least favorite battlegrounds in one category

[strong forum]

Cuz horde generally sucks in bgs

Haven't done bgs since Legion season 1 cuz they're god awful now that gear has some sort of scaling to it

[analog swift]

tbh epic bgs are easy

que up

watchign a netflix show

check if you won or lost

[static bane]

I had no idea how llittle Memory of Lucid dreams minor procced for me until i read some details stuff

Like 3 times in an entire freehold run

[distant crystal]

Wut

[warm plinth]

That...can't possibly be true.

Unless it was a 3 minute Freehold run

[exotic spoke]

That’s like, incredibly bad rng. Like - almost impossible

[distant crystal]

It could have just been bugged

Did you dc during the run or reload at any point?

cause like i got 7 procs in a 5 minute boss fight lol

[junior ivy]

hi

[warm plinth]

Yeah like...these are my lucids from a 13 Temple https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/9JhdWFBR1TyZ4Ptc/#fight=17&type=resources&hostility=&ability=298321&spell=101&source=288&pins=0%24Separate%24%23244F4B%24resources%240%24193055484.0.0.Warrior%240.0.0.Any%24true%240.0.0.Any%24false%24298321%24101^2%24Off%24%23909049%24expression%24Lucid Dreams&view=events

[static bane]

Thats wierd. It was a pretty quick run, probably about 10-12 mins.

Anyways i switched to aegis minor after that

Idk if thats better or not, but i seldom feel rage starved

[exotic spoke]

Hi catfriend

@static bane you don’t use it because you’re rage starved

You use it because more rage is very strong with AM

[strong forum]

and its got decent uptime on r3 versa gains

like 30-40% uptime

on 380 versa

[sick sentinel]

@warm plinth @strong forum rank 2 makes the duration from 5 sec to 7

Rank 3 is the not useful one

[exotic spoke]

I should change my essences around. Been lazy with some of them.

[strong forum]

5 or 7 seconds uptime on 100% uptime is pretty 🤷

[sick sentinel]

With 5sec I had like 85% uptime

[exotic spoke]

Kaege, I’m converted to MS btw

[sick sentinel]

With 7 sec I had like 95%

[exotic spoke]

Triple BoM, double MS, DC dream feels so good

[junior ivy]

areyou guys excited about gnome race

[strong forum]

welcome to the club riki

[exotic spoke]

Always catfriend

[strong forum]

only for you cat

[junior ivy]

no one even bothered to tell me except krotos

[exotic spoke]

Thanks Nome! Had to save up for ashvane. Got kraken on a random roll

[sick sentinel]

@junior ivy

[junior ivy]

lmaooo

[strong forum]

imagine not getting both on rnd rolls

[exotic spoke]

I figured you’re always up to date on all things gnomish catfriend

[strong forum]

😏

[junior ivy]

i get that reference

lol riki im not up to date anything wow anymore 😦

[exotic spoke]

After last night I need to resim dps stuff

But GNOMES

[junior ivy]

all of you mkae a gnome, the new ones

and show me

[exotic spoke]

I assume inkpod isn’t that good for aoe. Or does it work for aoe?

[distant crystal]

not really

but it's not really bad either since it's so OP for st

[exotic spoke]

It’s what I figured

Debating what to use for m+. May go coral due to Ilvl

[distant crystal]

i really like coral/inkpod most weeks

but i don't have much better options for the inkpod slot

but it's good enough on trash and so good on bosses

esp if you rip coral and pop BOTE at 31%

[exotic spoke]

I like one survivability trinket for high keys. Change it between urchin / edicts depending on the week / dungeon

[distant crystal]

oh right this is prot channel :p

[exotic spoke]

lol

[distant crystal]

what i wouldn't give to run BOTE as prot

[exotic spoke]

Coral at 450 though. Still feels good on bosses / big trash mobs

[sand egret]

MS is wonderful

[distant crystal]

your mom is wonderful

[sand egret]

that's what I was saying

that's her initials

[distant crystal]

lol

[exotic spoke]

I thought it was “MB” for Mama Bear

[distant crystal]

Mrs. Song

and her boy Blade

[exotic spoke]

lol

[sick sentinel]

@exotic spoke hi

Inkpod is good

[exotic spoke]

Hi kaege

For m+?

[sick sentinel]

Yes

[exotic spoke]

Oh fancy. Thanks for the info

[hollow sluice]

What is MS?

[warm plinth]

Meticulous Scheming

[sick sentinel]

The one trait I always fail to spell correctly

Except when I don't

[warm plinth]

It's cool; I got you boo

Also why do you make me sad about Sphere Kaege

I wanted to only have to get r1

[sick sentinel]

You're damn alliance

[warm plinth]

I am not

[sick sentinel]

Wait you're not?

Pog

Anyway

You don't have to use it

[warm plinth]

I haven't been alliance for like... 5 months or something

This is my new woyer https://raider.io/characters/us/tichondrius/Kordukai

[sick sentinel]

I use sphere because I'm at 1050 haste without any procs

[warm plinth]

Gross

[sick sentinel]

You can definitely get away with lucid

Or something else

But still

1 daily bg win

For 11 days

[warm plinth]

I'm using Vision major, aegis/lucid minor atm

[analog swift]

@exotic spoke imo people underestimate inkpod in M+

[warm plinth]

I have Null but only Rank 2 so far

And I know it's not as good in M+

[analog swift]

my thoughts about it, you get less stacks because mobs die faster but it takes the same % of their health for time on the mob

if that makes sense

[warm plinth]

Aegis is actually really good; I like it

[analog swift]

apparently it's booty compared to conflict

which seems odd

[warm plinth]

Well conflict has tooltip issues XD

[analog swift]

but i guess conflict is pretty stable at 5 throughout a dungeon whereas aegis fluctuates

[warm plinth]

People look at the tooltip and think it only gives like 20some per stack

But Aegis is easier to get for a lot of people (like me) as well

[sick sentinel]

You will understand why aegis is booty especially for tyrannical if you see a mplus log

Ghash

Friend

Daily bg win

[warm plinth]

I mean, yeah it's not great for tyrannical but fortified it's nice. And I'm using it full time now because I don't have anything else.

Except crucible

[grand drum]

Minor is nice

[warm plinth]

Yeah I'm using the minor

[sick sentinel]

Rank 1 sphere is better thank aegis for tyrr

[analog swift]

who would use the major? lolol

major is visions or crucible

[warm plinth]

I don't have r1 sphere

Because PvP

[analog swift]

i told you man

put on netflix

[warm plinth]

Like the PvP island will be easy. It's mostly the epic BG that I'm crying inside about

I can stand regular BGs but WG/AV/Isle are garbage

[sick sentinel]

Just do it

Suck it up

[warm plinth]

Don't tell me how to live my life Kaege

But nah I'm gonna do both sphere and C&S eventually

[sick sentinel]

I'm not your dad

[warm plinth]

So Vision/Sphere/C&S is a pretty good general setup right?

[sick sentinel]

I use that setup everywhere except raiding

[warm plinth]

Or CoF/Vision/C&S for tyr maybe?

Or is sphere better than C&S

[sick sentinel]

No cof major in tyrr

Not worth

[warm plinth]

Oh

Just in raids then

[sick sentinel]

Ya

@ionic fern

I just did a key

Can you dm blizzard and tell them to make explosives give VR again?

[ionic fern]

[sick sentinel]

Thanks

[ionic fern]

Okay.

Lemme just contact my contacts.

[warm plinth]

I'm sure it wasn't intended

[sick sentinel]

Also ask them why my bloodrite SOMETIMES gets refreshed with an explosive dying

And sometimes it doesn't

[analog swift]

wait wtf

it doesn't proc VR

what is this

[frosty holly]

ye hidden lil nerf

DK's still get Death strike from it

[warm plinth]

What do you mean they still get Death Strike?

[frosty holly]

I was so happy with explo week. Seeing you are nearly immortal

The Dk proc that makes it heal more

DS*

[warm plinth]

Oh

[exotic spoke]

@sick sentinel I haven’t tested it - but someone was saying swap to impending victory and then swap back and it should work

[sick sentinel]

what

that sounds ridiculous

and stupid

[exotic spoke]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sick sentinel]

and ridiculously stupid

[exotic spoke]

So it could work?

[sick sentinel]

it could work yes

[exotic spoke]

Like I said - I haven’t tried it. But allegedly someone said it worked

[frosty holly]

It's blizz

probably works

[coral marsh]

guys im just at the pvp trinket conquest reward quest where you can chose from 6 trinkets, does somebody know whats the best?

413 strength + at 25% 65k shield automatically isnt that good?

[sick sentinel]

not good

[exotic spoke]

Spriests are crying. I’m not sure how I fee

[coral marsh]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=167377/notorious-gladiators-medallion OR https://www.wowhead.com/item=167378/notorious-gladiators-emblem OR https://www.wowhead.com/item=167379/notorious-gladiators-insignia OR https://de.wowhead.com/item=167380/abzeichen-des-berüchtigten-gladiators OR https://www.wowhead.com/item=167383/notorious-gladiators-maledict OR https://www.wowhead.com/item=167384/notorious-gladiators-safeguard ??? I was leaning to last

[exotic spoke]

If you want it for pvp you should probably use maledict I guess

[slender light]

the fall below 35% and the use reduce healing should be pvp only tbh

[coral marsh]

for pve, why is the fall below 35 % bad for myth+? sounds chill

[warm plinth]

Because we don't drop below 35% unless we screw up

[coral marsh]

i mean sure but imagine the healer or whatever screwing up for a sec

sounds chill idk

[warm plinth]

It wouldn't be the healer screwing up; it would be you screwing up.

[coral marsh]

not when the healer stops healing

[stark sage]

if the healer stops healing, you're going to die regardless of the trinket

[ivory barn]

I mean, If you mitigate right and have the proper IP absorb/trinket absorb. I did a few +13's and still dont fall beloew ~75% hp

[coral marsh]

would the shield of the trinket conflict with the ip cap?

[ivory barn]

Not that I've seen

Game uses which ever procs first, I could be wrong on that tho, but tahts what i've noticed

[coral marsh]

on wowhead it said the trinket got nerfed to 3 min internal cd in 8.2 for pvp or whatever apparently

so had to be kinda good in some way

[stark sage]

for pvp it was good

because players often fall below 35% hp, and the CD was short enough that it would negate the DPS cooldowns of certain specs making them useless

[coral marsh]

hm thanks i guess so all pretty much trash

[vale kestrel]

Hey question guys

I have never tanked before

And I’ve only ever DPS

I have a 400ilvl fury warrior

How hard is it to make a switch into prot tanking?

And how long does it take to gear to be able to start tanking mythic+ keys like 10-15?

Is most of our gear from raid or just m+ grinding?

[coral marsh]

i got a +10 with 410 last reset with pugs

[vale kestrel]

Yah but how geared is your healer

And dps

And how much experience you have

[fringe marten]

can you literally only get 2 call to arms distinctions per week? so it takes 5 weeks to get Ripple in space 3?

[coral marsh]

obviously they were 430+, but they take you anyways cause no one wants to tank

[vale kestrel]

That’s like saying I dps a 10 at 370 ilvl

[coral marsh]

and you dont get an invite as dps with lowilvl period

[lofty wedge]

To feel comfortable being somewhere around 420-30 for a 10 would be where I’d start personally. But if you can get in with a good healer and dps then you can be lower yeah

A lot of it depends on your essences too, what do you have?

VoP is really nice

[exotic rapids]

Would you guys drop the 3rd BoM for 15 ilvl? I am running 3 DC 3 BoM atm. I would go to 3 DC 2 BoM 1 Bloodsport for +15 ilvl

I am only runnning m+ 15-18 atm

I am simming 0.7% higher with the old gear. But DPS is not everything

[sick sentinel]

@exotic rapids don't run bloodsport don't run more than 1 dc

[ivory barn]

@sick sentinel is that the same for M+? A while ago people were saying its ok to stack DC for M+

[exotic rapids]

I am with nerdbot here. Brace for impact and iron fortress are basically useless in m+ at this gear level

[sick sentinel]

youre both wrong

people were doing it but it wasn't the best option

and both of those traits are really good at all gear elevels

BFI is an awesome trait. More ST damage paired with pretty substantial survivability

IF is amazing and BfI is pretty good

[ivory barn]

I mean, Im no longer running more than x1 DC but I'm running a build that made a few people made a few days ago

[sick sentinel]

How is your build making people mad

[ivory barn]

I honestly dont understand whats wrong with it either, but it was between the different Azerite traits and the bracer/gloves slot. I personally like Bloodsport (thats just my opionion though and I'm not saying its the best here).

[ionic fern]

Welp, that is a weird build.

[sick sentinel]

What are your other options?

Trait wise

[ivory barn]

it was ItP and CR

[oblique garnet]

vers enchants 🤔

[sick sentinel]

Yeah the vers enchants are suspect

Also why am i never rewarded by blizzard with sockets

I think I can count on one hand the amount of socketed gear I have gotten this tier

[ivory barn]

I'm guessing the Vers gem would need to go to? I like having 11%+ vers for some reason

[sick sentinel]

You will get more benefit from other stats imo. Having vers is good, but I don’t enchant or gem it

@ivory barn bloodsport is garbage

like legit useless

vers enchants are questionable

CR is definitely better than BS

Tbh your azerite gear isn’t the optimal setup... but then again we can’t always control that

[ivory barn]

Where would change be needed there? other than those 2 traits

[sick sentinel]

I’m referring mainly to the pieces of gear

enchants

[ivory barn]

changed a few things, how does this look now?

[oblique garnet]

Also someone know if the thing with changing from itfto iv and back worked and fixed explosives triggering VR? or was that just scam

[ivory barn]

I noticed that today to, was that a stelth nerf?

[exotic spoke]

Not sure late - haven’t tested it

Probably a bug more than anything

[wooden radish]

@ionic fern 👋

[ionic fern]

👋

The custom Wave.

Best wave.

[exotic spoke]

So how’s it going

[distant crystal]

you can barely see weapons on the bee mount

what's the point of using it if i can't show off The Glazer mog while on it

smh

[exotic spoke]

I don’t have it yet. Farming that jelly is stupid unless I’m selling it on my server. But I CBA

Someone in my guild bought a shit ton on ragnaros at 100g each and transferred them to my server - sold them each at like 1500 per

[distant crystal]

so i bought a little jelly to boost out of friendly

and then just did events/daily/loops

but now that i got the mount i'm prob gonna do some more loops/events for gold

seems like you can get a pretty good rate with current prices

[exotic spoke]

Prices on my server are still stupid

But #deadserver

[shut marlin]

phial 430 and edicts 430 or briny 445 and edicts for m+s seems like briny performs better then phial

[sick sentinel]

@ivory barn that's 10 times better

[ivory barn]

thank you, hopefully I can get some better gear lol

[ivory barn]

only thing i've noticed different at the moment is instead of having a 105K IP pool I have a 70-80k IP pool

[sick sentinel]

Thats a very small difference

Considering ip isnt your main thing at alll

[ivory barn]

prolly not the place for that, nvm

[sick sentinel]

thing is, you'll be refreshing and re-casting IP so much

it doesn't really matter

[ivory barn]

I realized that, but having a higher IP pool can also cast more Revenges too

[sick sentinel]

well that's why you go haste/crit

to have most revenges free

if your revenges aren't free, pull bigger

[undone sun]

[ivory barn]

lmao. "pulls half the instance" its free now damn it!

[oblique garnet]

Pretty much

[terse wedge]

Hello

Any tips for mythic radiance of Azshara

I feel like the add just eat me alive

[spice ferry]

add phase nothing is blockable

smash that ip button

[strong forum]

get a tank healer on your side

atleast 1

[empty locust]

Plan a stun rotation with your team helps a lot

[sick sentinel]

Yes my method is to stache a holy paladin in my pocket

[hallow phoenix]

Chaining shield wall and last stand helps

Don't need them for radiance itself

[grave marsh]

is urchin any good?

[distant crystal]

it heals a bunch

[sick sentinel]

it's good

[grave marsh]

thanks kaeg

[empty locust]

Does explosive no longer proc victory rush?

either that or the group i had last night was just super good at getting them before me

[undone sun]

Handful of reports that it no longer pro s VR, yeah. Likely to be a bug.

[empty locust]

Shame, it was very helpful to my healers on higher keys

Hope its a bug

i was getting crappy at my DH and fury warrior last night...kept telling them to leave the singles for me for free healing

[chilly brook]

Yea I did a key last night and can confirm it’s not procing

[warm plinth]

Someone earlier had heard that if you spec into Impending Victory and then back out, it fixed the problem. Might try that @empty locust @chilly brook

It was secondhand to begin with though so it may not be true.

[empty locust]

Cheers will give it a shot, cannot test it right now

Supposed to be doing work...

[hallow phoenix]

So inkpod just crit for 1 million on harlan in FH

mfw

[sick sentinel]

💦

[limpid pawn]

so I don't see the top mythic + wars gemming str at all

should I not be doing that?

[warm plinth]

Whatever you want to do. Str gems should sim better though.

[limpid pawn]

yeah i have 120/80 str gems

and then haste

i'm seeing crit/haste

in the raider.io profiles

[warm plinth]

Haste/crit would have to be more than double the value of str to not use the 120, and about 1.6x the weight of str to not use the 80

Which I guess if you had like ultra low haste or crit, that might be the case, but not likely

[stoic pilot]

Can anyone actually confirm speccing into impending victory and out fixes explosive bug like ghash said?

[distant crystal]

be the change you want to see in the world

[exotic spoke]

no it doesn't

I tried it tonight in a carry

[stoic pilot]

unfortunate

[somber solar]

im a bit confused on the stat priority for war ive been reading haste/crit/verse but a lot of builds that i have been seeing has been crit/haste/verse?

[undone sun]

it's primarily to take ilevel over other secondaries, which means almost everyone's secondary order will be wildly different

[warm plinth]

The stat priority for damage would depend on your personal sims. The stat priority for survival is ilevel>all

[somber solar]

but if ur at highest ilvl with multiple stat gear

which would u take

crit/haste or haste/crit?

[warm plinth]

haste/vers for survival or haste/crit for damage

[somber solar]

so more haste than crit for damage?

[warm plinth]

Depends on your stat weights

Most likely haste will be better though

[sick sentinel]

If you're so giga worried about your stat weights for damage, rumor has it you can find out at raidbots.com

[onyx vessel]

40 attepts on hm king mech

Zzzz

[warm plinth]

Yikes

[onyx vessel]

Im just pumpin dps we got king mech to spawn 3 times somehow the dps didnt just 2 shot it

[warm plinth]

No voice comms?

[onyx vessel]

Had a 1% on king mech wipe

Like accual king mech

[warm plinth]

Wait what?/

How tf

[onyx vessel]

Who has like 100k hp

[warm plinth]

He has like 300k HP or something; spit on him and he dies

[onyx vessel]

I wanted to end it

[warm plinth]

lol

[onyx vessel]

3k hp wipe

[warm plinth]

Howwww

[onyx vessel]

Yikes

Boomie couldve staff bashed it

[ionic fern]

parry

[warm plinth]

lul

[true oasis]

what trinkets are good from Ep for tankin?

[ionic fern]

What trinkets do you have=?

There's a ton of decent trinkets ..
Rezans, Blast, Inkpod,Coral,Edict,Urchin etc.

[true oasis]

Phial of the Arcane Tempest,Highborne Compendium of Sundering what i got at both 400 and jsut got a 430 Urchin

[ionic fern]

I'd probably use Urchin + Sundering in your scenario.

[brittle owl]

i'd use arcane tempest for raiding with sundering

[onyx vessel]

Recalibration be good for st dps?

8.3 minor prot buff

Vision procs more often

[sick sentinel]

they are buffing vision because it doesn't benefit from the essence that buffs your essences

[plush gate]

will it be worth to racechange to Mechagnome?

got a Draenei warrior right now

[spice ferry]

Wait and see the final version. Chances are it’ll be nerfed

[ionic fern]

🙅

[sick sentinel]

dark iron dwarf imo is best if you dont do high keys and even then only worth to go meld if everyone is nelf

dwarf racial helps alot with bleeds and dots

@plush gate wait until it's out

Numbers are 100% subject to change

[worn socket]

I know that prots DPS has been nerfed, but does Brew currently offer more survivability, utility, and DPS than prot?

[ionic fern]

🤔