Good times
#protection
warm plinth
sick sentinel
Good times
remote vale
can you get the quest for bote and sphere again?
random urchin
@remote vale No, once you get one of the pvp essences from the quest you can buy the off spec ones for marks of honor
remote vale
ah, how many are we talkin
random urchin
I don’t know how much rank 1 is but rank 2 is something like 25 I think
sick sentinel
Out of curiosity how difficult is it to win a pvp island and epic battleground
remote vale
if horde, pvp island is easy
random urchin
Both are relatively easy
sick sentinel
Good
random urchin
Epic BG is a bit more luck based
sick sentinel
Gotta work on them tonight
random urchin
If you get a whole lot of morons in your big you’re screwed
remote vale
anyone know what 50k honor from normal bg's would take in terms of hours
oh its 15k
nvm
marble cipher
CnS can kiss my ass, why did they put in in the one part of the game that I absolutely dispise
remote vale
i also hate it but 1k rating is fine imo
slowly getting rank 3 from just doing daily invasion wq's :s
marble cipher
I've done 20 games so far, I'm at 500 ish rating
pallid onyx
boy what a week to pick up learning prot lol.
i have a new love & appreciation for resto druids i never had as a dps
remote vale
i mean, at least its not fortified + raging? :)
pallid onyx
you riight
oblique garnet
@warm plinth Explovies you mean chain heal?
warm plinth
For you maybe; didn't work out that well for the rest of your team!
warm plinth
You can look at damage the mob/boss did to itself on logs
warm plinth
Maybe if you look at Enemy Damage Taken? I never checked
modern brook
Enemy damage taken from source
The source being whatever is reflecting
I'm like 25%sure thatsnwhat it's called in details
warm plinth
I'm not sure you can. Enemy Damage Taken doesn't show anything but what I cast on them. And I can't find anything that lets me choose the source
oblique garnet
Damage taken by spell maybe 🤷
warm plinth
Yeah that was my thought but that only shows damage I took by a spell
potent anvil
Pretty sure it's just Damage Taken, but select 'Everything' instead of 'Standard' from the settings menu (gear icon). This will let you see enemy damage taken breakdown.
potent anvil
I had to find a mob to spell reflect, but yeah that's how you find out. It doesn't show you "per reflect," just to the total it did to itself. So just divide that total number by your reflect casts and you can find the per reflect dmg amount if you wanted to.
https://i.imgur.com/Q6OMHEm.png
potent anvil
Don't give mods any nickname ideas 👀
warm plinth
lol
undone tinsel
hello ! i have made a mess on my warrior i just leveled up engi because i thought it had BoM is there any value to that headpiece or to the profession or should i abandon it alltogether ? and also what would you say would be the best profs for tanking (raids)
potent anvil
Oh, I guess I should tag the person that wanted to know. @novel temple
undone tinsel
honestly
if the second row was better i would consider it more
but i dont really see any potential in those trais
traits
even if i keep the thing what should i go for 2nd prof
jewl ? bs ?
finite bolt
i cnt decide on wat trinket to use i have many choices and cnt seem to make my mind up =/
spice ferry
Are you heroic or mythic raiding or doing m+ @undone tinsel ?
If you’re planning to raid mythic I’d suggest not bs, because you have access to the same slots from first 3. Jc is apparently expensive though (not done it myself) Alch is handy for double flask duration
undone tinsel
heroic trying to move to mythic
spice ferry
Wel yeh, first 3 is relatively easy, and drops 445 gear in the same slots. Something to take into consideration
oblique garnet
You really want to spend 600k+ on a ring?🤔
undone tinsel
well is the trinket really worth it from alch ?
also what 2nd row power would you get on engi helm ?
sick sentinel
gizmo
oblique garnet
Alchemy trinket is good
Essentially turns your healing pots into a LoH
The proc itself isnt bad either
undone tinsel
and saves money on consumables i guess
warm plinth
Whew!
shut summit
Ain't raided since we killed few weeks ago
Next reset we just doin 7/8 and bod for mount
Then full clears
shut summit
People binging classic and shit, good time for a break
oblique garnet
Yeah
After we killed azhara i havent seen more than 7 people online at the guild xd
shut summit
Same
oblique garnet
@sick sentinel i have sphere rank 1 😃
sick sentinel
No
terse dragon
I'm not sure if my 1800 haste is too much
sick sentinel
Also I've been having fun
@terse dragon do you sacrifice ilvl for hsste
Because if you just happened to stumble upon 1800 haste, good
That's not a problem
warm plinth
I sacrifice ilevel for @outer dew
sick sentinel
Cute
outer dew
thanks babe
tbh
i kidna wanna play fury warrior again
but the work to level essence
lmao
warm plinth
I leveled most of the way as fury on my mag’har. It’s pretty fun
oblique garnet
come do bgs with me
outer dew
how you like fury in keys for this affix?
i pinged you and you never
responded
toxic af
oblique garnet
Fury is pumping
oblique garnet
Id say honestly fury has highest damage out of all the dps
warm plinth
Essences are the only annoying part about alts
It just happens to be a really annoying part
outer dew
what essences does fury need anyway?
just for keys
i probably won't raid as fury
maybe just no raid
big brain
outer dew
i mean
i can probably time a +10 from BDA gear
with some of the boys
but it's more of is it worth the time investmant for me
onyx vessel
My guild can even do a 9 in time
Feral druud doing 6k dps on a boss
Me doing 9k as prot
🤔
oblique garnet
I had a guardian druid doing 4k dps in a +10 😦
oblique garnet
Dude wasnt pressing buttons
onyx vessel
How does the man hold threat
oblique garnet
He didnt
oblique garnet
Thats pretty low
oblique garnet
still pretty low
onyx vessel
Teach me late
terse dragon
@sick sentinel No I don't
terse dragon
But with quick nav it just seems so overkill
sick sentinel
You don't use quick nav
onyx vessel
Force
terse dragon
But I've heard haste is just so good for us
sick sentinel
You use force mutliplier
onyx vessel
Naga is useless
terse dragon
I'll pick up force and see how I like it
oblique garnet
@onyx vessel Idk how to tell you to improve on your dps if i have no logs or anything to base it on
press 123 harder 🤷
novel temple
thanks @potent anvil Mr. Smartywind
warm plinth
Smartywind is pretty helpful sometimes
novel temple
i just use my cheeks to press clap
warm plinth
Are you dummy thicc? Or do you mean the other cheeks
sick sentinel
rank 3 org, using devastator, no rank 65 neck nor rank 3 essences
next week I'll have pure rank 3 essences, 65 neck and all of that
incoming rank 1
sick sentinel
I"m on boss Kappa
icy garnet
I’m not sure if cyclo works properly with threat. Feels weird to burst for 90k+ ST to have someone pull off of me during/at the end of the channel. Could be wrong tho....
oblique garnet
Might be some stealth nerfs it kept happening last reset where cyclo wasnt generating any threat
sick sentinel
Nah it's for queens
I'm on the witch
so nobody is actually bursting on it that much
warm plinth
There's a leveling guide on icy-veins. I wouldn't worry about stats for now; in any case, item level is better than specific stats so just go for the highest gear and you'll be fine.
Only gear that really matters while leveling is heirlooms for the xp boost
tawny maple
Yo anyone got any tips heading into this? Highest ML I'm about to do so far
vagrant kelp
Sorry is this not for classic?
warm plinth
No it's not. #vanilla-discussion
They have a classic-specific Warrior discord too I think
warm plinth
It's in the pins in that channel I linked I believe
undone sun
they left 🤔
tawny maple
They said "fuck these retail guys"
onyx vessel
@oblique garnet sorry i dont log m+ ill try and hit 123
small basalt
can you block the attacks from the last boss in motherlode
oblique garnet
no
undone sun
sudden kayak
hey warriors are really tanky im only 428 and i barely need heals compared to my 438 druid he needs more heals
outer dew
your druid should have a higher HPS too
lunar bramble
does anyone have a good addon for tracking your mouse cursor? i seem to lose mine during heavy aoe packs
exotic spoke
I’m just going to say it.... 3:30 am should not be a time where people are awake
onyx vessel
Well timezones exist and someone like me works nightshift also exists
exotic spoke
I mean - fair. I’ll rephrase
Being up at 3:30 am because of you tube rabbit holes is the devil Bobby Bouche
outer dew
Sup babe
exotic spoke
@lusty grotto hows ClassicChip doing
outer dew
Tbh, I'm debating if I stick with hpal or yolo fury warrior
And I'm sad because I'm at 6k gold
onyx vessel
Buy a token 🤔
exotic spoke
@sand egret you’re still up too?
outer dew
Like, I dont have the gold or drive to gear and maintain two toons
But I did that with 6 rooms last tiet
😂
exotic spoke
Just pick one and only one
onyx vessel
Yeah fuck that
onyx vessel
I do a 10 every week
outer dew
Would be approx enough to get 415 azerite in 2 weeks
So I did 17 every week on 6 toons min
😂
outer dew
I mean, doing 17s wasnt hard
outer dew
And that was last tier
exotic spoke
Get a 440 get’ikku obv
exotic spoke
Can’t get 455
exotic spoke
Maxes out at 450
onyx vessel
Fine
outer dew
Holy is something I'd like if I didn't have to pug
exotic spoke
Got one in my weekly chest
outer dew
Fury would be enjoyable if I did
onyx vessel
450 socketed with avoidance 👀
outer dew
Because dying to ground effects vs one shot
Is two different stories
Btw riki why are you up?
I'm pst so it's not bad
exotic spoke
YouTube rabbit hole
outer dew
You watch about those lemon stealing whores?
onyx vessel
Oof
outer dew
Trust me
onyx vessel
Im at work so thats why im up
exotic spoke
It’s almost 4 am
outer dew
Perfect time to do ao
onyx vessel
Work till 630am like me
lunar bramble
how do you do temple this week without severely over c apping % ?
exotic spoke
You death skip or you don’t imo
onyx vessel
Death run or rogue it
exotic spoke
Void week
onyx vessel
Void
outer dew
onyx vessel
I fuckin hate void
exotic spoke
Shroud last hallway, death run some others and you’re golden
outer dew
outer dew
Imagine not having access to the best m+ racials
Mechanic targeting me?
Meld
Skip? Mels
exotic spoke
I’m still laughing over being told I should stick to heroic raids since I only play / want to play prot
exotic spoke
Things targeting other players you want to cancel:
Meld
outer dew
Tbh
exotic spoke
Meld is also a viable option for necrotic tofu
outer dew
50 necrotic stacks? Meld
I know
I use to do that
😂 😂 😂
I'd meld, 2x rogues vanished and 1x DH would meld
exotic spoke
Did you see what I posted yesterday about “sticking to heroic raid”? Tofu
outer dew
Like. I said
People are bad
Club Camel brings hoofhearted to prog
Imagine whining when a feral druid is outperforming you
😂
exotic spoke
Lol
outer dew
The people who need to stick to heroic raids
exotic spoke
Something. Something - 39th naxx 40 clear. World wide
I’m good not going back to that
outer dew
Are the ones that can only parse gray for every class
Because they're doing mechanics
Had a guy tell me he couldn't parse because he did mechanical
😂 😂
Bitchass, I couldn't parse well because you had more open globals than swiss cheese
exotic spoke
Lol
When ashvane dies... my parse average tofu... it’s going to go way down I’m sure
outer dew
Lates
sick sentinel
my ashvane
hurts me
rl doesn't want to do 2 phase strat
even with 5% nerf
I don't have rank 65
don't have rank 3 VoP
only have 430 trinkets :(
Don't have null barrier either
we don't two phase blackwater either lol :(
undone sun
sounds like you're not about that damage life
sick sentinel
I mean most people use equip with use
It's just yuck
because I use to main lock
you don't really use two on use
or you didn't before
Mages use double on-use
that's mage
what other class does
Look
Coral+cyclo is not the rule
It's the exception
You can use them both effectively as long as you use don't lose cyclo casts
How would I effectively use coral then
modest pelican
Hi guys, just wanted to ask - is 13k dps overall for the whole m+ run too little for a 435 prot?
modest pelican
would you mind checking my log? 🙂
undone sun
post
modest pelican
sick sentinel
You probably arent thunder clapping on cd and not using avatar / demoralizing on cd also
Low thunderclap damage
modest pelican
Thanks 🙂 so thunder has priority over everything right 😄
sick sentinel
@sick sentinel look how the sim uses it
how
html report
yes yes I know
but how
strong forum
Bruh wtf is your gear
Like 7 sockets
I have 430 dreams end with socket too, maybe I should use that for parsing instead of 445 from 1st boss... Hmm
somber sky
is DE like mega BiS?
strong forum
It's the best weapon for raiding, but it's so late into the tier it's very hard to get
On an actually useful ilvl
sick sentinel
@strong forum
my dungeon gear is better
430 with socket on st only beats the 445 by 0.5/0.6%
that's with not target switching
the moment you stack two mobs together
it's a big loss
lol
strong forum
cries in 4 sockets but 1.6k haste and 1.3k crit
sick sentinel
I'd just keep the 445
sick sentinel
Ye I'll have rank 3 soon
and rank 65 next week
so I should be getting straight 99/100s
strong forum
Sockets make up for that
sick sentinel
I don't really have a lot of sockets in my raiding set
and I only have two benthic pieces
that are not even 425
that are socketed
void berry
I wish I had your skill then.
strong forum
Ye so no 100s breh
void berry
😦
sick sentinel
maybe ashvane if we 2 phase it
strong forum
Ye on aoe pad maybe
sick sentinel
ye that was the best one
look at the damage before we hit third phase
it was higher
than after the add set
Us hitting that phase fucked my damage
strong forum
Fuck being boss tank 🙃
strong forum
My radiance log is big gay
So is ashvane
Can very well do better
Boss dmg log is looking acceptable
Orgo was 95 on 1st kill :(
strong forum
Obv
sick sentinel
giant pocket sized also
strong forum
I painfully did the WQs for 2 weeks straight
sick sentinel
and bigger trinkets than I do
and better weapons for ashvane, blackwater and stuff
rip
sick sentinel
next week
When I get both my null and rank 65
Imma be big
6 more days of this crap
strong forum
Hf
I hit exatled with unshackled last week and I didn't take a break ever, you're even slower than me
sick sentinel
maybe I should run triple reckless with MS/ BFI and heavy repercussions for giant parse lul
I work monday-thursday 12/13 shifts
strong forum
Fuck that shit
sick sentinel
so I don't play those days
strong forum
I only raid log for like 5 weeks now
sick sentinel
I only started tanking this tier
Was a lock main when tier hit
we needed a tank so I switched off
strong forum
Unluck
sick sentinel
not really
I miss my lock but it's not all bad
me tanking gave me a new perspective
on how to play the game
Teaches you how to RL, focus on others cds, positioning and management
strong forum
For me it would be exact opposite
As dps you have so little to do, you can check positioning and CDs way better than as tank
Especially ranged
sick sentinel
ye but you don't check cds and other peoples positioning
you just dps
lol
most people atleast
strong forum
Well as RL you should
strong forum
Dafuq
sick sentinel
because it's shit easy
I sit there not thinking about anything most of the time
like oh, I have to taunt now
oh, this is coming up
better defensive
and push buttons on cd
:4head:
strong forum
Idk bout that one chief
strong forum
Tanking has been the hardest this tier
Compared to bod and uldir
By like 300%
Ashvane and orgo is so much fucking tank responsibility its annoying
But you're not 2 tanking and not orgo tanking
sick sentinel
ashvane does?
I can see org being annoying if you 2 tanked it
the only part that was hard about it was my cd management being fucked but I fixed it
strong forum
Ashvane 2 tanking means
You have to have perfect timings
From start to finish
With who taunts what
Cuz you tank 90% or the time, the soak tank only tanking very specific bashes
You tanking specific bubbles
Yada Yada
sick sentinel
? I don't know, wasn't that annoying
we did attempts as 2 tank
didn't notice anything different
besides we just couldn't meet the dps check
and people fucking up coral cutting
and dying to upsurge
strong forum
Ashvane was horrible for like 50 pulls
Now it's uber chill cuz my cotank knows what to do
sick sentinel
yes
void berry
We 2 tank Ashvane and in the end I don't tank 90% of the time at all, we split the soaks between a ton of people and go with it.
But yeah, Ashvane, Gorgonzola and QC are pretty tank oriented. Lots of movement, taunts, and CD management.
strong forum
Ye Monks suck
sick sentinel
e
strong forum
Fuck Monks
sick sentinel
Monks are great
void berry
Ultra chill as in "if you place the boss wrong once it's a fail pull" yeah, ultra chill :kappa:
It must be very chill when your raid has really high DPS.
strong forum
Playing the game on fucking crayon simulator
void berry
Which we don't have.
strong forum
Fuck Monks
sick sentinel
?
strong forum
I hate Monks
sick sentinel
ok
sick sentinel
It's usually thunderclap
strong forum
Tc highest on St
void berry
Just seeing those diff of damage taken from melee on QC makes me puke monks 😦
sick sentinel
Hmm checked logs
guess no t
maybe I'm just used to doing m+ and trash pulls
sim says I should be doing melee as the highest
sick sentinel
don't know why your melee is the highest
strong forum
Are you looking at pure ST fight
sick sentinel
yes
strong forum
My melee does 4k dps
sick sentinel
I was looking at first boss and wormie boi
strong forum
I'm using alot of IP
In my rotation
Like I play max offensive with max defensive playstyle
sick sentinel
I only do IP if I have no IP up already
strong forum
I revenge rarely
sick sentinel
so it doesn't IP cap
undone sun
IP cap isn't really something to worry about
strong forum
Ye
void berry
Out of curiosity, for how long have you guys been playing prot ?
And war in general ?
sick sentinel
2 months now not counting me getting geared up season 2
strong forum
War since wotlk
sick sentinel
end of season 2
sick sentinel
I started this game in antorus as a lock
took a year break
came back bod
then rolled tank
undone sun
beginning of legion
modest pelican
guys, anyone know why details shows me bigger dps for the whole m+ run than logs? in details - 17k dps and in log - 13k
sick sentinel
:4head:
modest pelican
total damage is same, bud dps is lower in log
sick sentinel
log counts downtime details is on combat start
strong forum
Why the fuck would logs count downtime
Na fam
Combat logging is called combat logging for a reason, if you're not in combat, it doesn't log
Simple as that
sick sentinel
I think you misunderstood me
lol
It's like the difference between details and skada
One interacts with combat differently
I use to remember the actual variable with i t
but I forgot
Haven't thought about that since legion
strong forum
His details might be setup in the way that if a target stops, it's dps stops
Cuz that's an option
If you deal 0 dmg but are in fight your dps doesn't change
But idk, I don't log m+
grizzled junco
Usually Fury but got a 430 Font w/ Socket. My other trinkets I used for my Prot spec are a 415 fang (on use haste) and a 400 Rezan's Gleaming Eye. Would I use the Font over the Eye? Or is just the 4s channel just kind awkward as tank
strong forum
Use the rezan + font
This 4s channel is very awkward yes, so you have to 100% know when to use it
In a raid setting
And in m+ obv just before pulling the next pack
grizzled junco
the rezan is better than the 415 fang?
strong forum
No it doesn't
@grizzled junco fang is shit and rezan is one of the best trinkets in the game
drifting shadow
thx
grizzled junco
good to know
sick sentinel
I just push IP
like ALL the time
because if I wait to spend rage on revenge I don't spend rage
I don't tank raids tho
and I run a lot of crit in dungeon +goreblock
grizzled junco
would a 410 alch trinket be better than the 400 rezan
strong forum
that idk
sick sentinel
I'd use it
graceful sundial
how much difference is a non-socketed benthic? I'm just tired of this rng
autumn pendant
You can sim it in gear compare and see
distant crystal
socket is big
spending pearls upgrading without a socket is kinda silly
they're all gonna make fun of you!
brittle owl
lunar bramble
anyone else having loads of issues with plater today?
upbeat minnow
Dunno if it's plater but I had alot of errors ingame.
warm plinth
What kind of issues with Plater? I haven't noticed anything so far.
warm plinth
👍
analog swift
@graceful sundial late reply sorry but if you think about it like this. a 415 socketed benthic will easily beat a 425 non socketed piece. Yet you will have used 150 manapealrs to go from 415-425 that you could have spent gambling.
graceful sundial
thanks for your answers guys
ornate flint
anyone who has red card subroutine DEFRAGMENTATIOn
from mechagon hard mode
can u tell me if it crit heals
and how much % hp is the threshold to receive the maximum 200% heal
cosmic cape
is devastator with flurry stacks the new way to parse high having trouble getting out of purple
also should i worry about what ilvl my cyclotronic blast is or just use it with a coral? is there an easier way to upgrade the ilvl besides just hoping for a yellow card titanforge
pallid onyx
how long do you guys usually let necrotic to stack up to before you start to kite it off?
chilly brook
@cosmic cape it’s always been the way to parse on strictly single target
cosmic cape
yeah i have a few ilvl oranges but want to get more
daring zealot
is there a risk of cancelling AA's with devestator?
warm plinth
Devastator triggers from AAs; how would it cause them to cancel them?
daring zealot
i mean by queueing other abilities, im worried im pushing back auto attacks
warm plinth
Yeah none of our abilities cause swing timer resets that I'm aware.
near ivy
no abilities anywhere cause swing timer resets afaik
warm plinth
Nah there are some. Lightning Bolt resets enhance shaman's swing timer
sick sentinel
yeah but that;s so they don't use it as a filler
sick sentinel
yes
warm plinth
I mean, I wasn't saying why it did. Just that it did haha
near ivy
so if you are casting it you are inting
outer dew
to do a caster movie
sick sentinel
but you can cast it if you're not in melee
warm plinth
It's for filling globals when you can't be on boss basically
sick sentinel
you cast flame tongue, rockbiter twice
and then like if you are away for more than3 globals
first of all you are inting
warm plinth
Lightning Bolt is always instant for Enhance I'm pretty sure, btw. It resets the swing timer either way.
sick sentinel
and yeah you can cast lb
vestal edge
finally unlocked 65 essence slot. Vop lucid and null ?
sick sentinel
vop cns sphere
sick sentinel
!!!
warm plinth
Seriously gonna list two PvP essences just out of nowhere?
Like my heart wasn't breaking about my next essence grind already?
oblique garnet
🙂
modern gyro
Can i change booming voice for devastator on m+?
undone sun
i wouldn't
oblique garnet
@warm plinth New content for you boi: )
warm plinth
iKR
oblique garnet
I dont mean pvp 🙂
warm plinth
? lol
oblique garnet
Streamed few +10 boosts because i felt they would be bit sketch xd
warm plinth
I'm in a +12 Siege at 358 right now 😄
oblique garnet
Where stream
warm plinth
I mean, I'm not tanking it lol
I'm "off-tanking"
Nice, got 430 crit/haste boots and a 430 crit/haste ring from it 😄
We timed that shit too lul
oblique garnet
Y i k es
warm plinth
Don't be jelly
warm plinth
Gonna do a semi-big boy key now
@sick sentinel Hey those two items brought me from 358 to 370 😂
sick sentinel
warm plinth
I mean, when you're carrying a 358 warrior who's in prot spec but not tanking...lul
I could see it happening
warm plinth
Late talking shit lol
onyx abyss
Ip
undone sun
sick sentinel
what about the adds?
onyx abyss
Did the same thing smh
sick sentinel
is mind tether really bad for prot?
oblique garnet
Its not ideal
distant crystal
just go fury
onyx abyss
Not great
oblique garnet
I know i would pull aggro from cotank
distant crystal
:D
oblique garnet
All the time
onyx abyss
Oh
sick sentinel
I did pull aggro
he's dpsing it more before we kite tho
so I stopped pulling aggro
oblique garnet
If its for moving the boss you can just have monk taunt boss first for ms and you taunt it
And no getting a dps on tether doesnt work
It actually slaps now
distant crystal
ahh they tweaked it?
onyx abyss
Ppl where abusing it since if u had the tanks in different realms it wouldnt tether lol
west galleon
you can't even get a dps on tether
true plover
2nd bloodsport or 1st rezans fury?
undone sun
rezans
sudden kayak
prot warrior is so op im hella tanky and hella dps only 428 imagine if i was 440
sick sentinel
I feel like urchin in keys is like
eh
it did 15.2% of my overall healing
which is 1.6m but through an entire dungeon
where it's probably going to be on max buffer
It feels weird
hexed crane
prot best m+ tank?
sick sentinel
Monk and Prot
hexed crane
those are the two i am trying to decide between
west galleon
monk more fun u get to zoom around
undone sun
subjective
unless you're pushing for world ranks, it really doesn't matter
both are very strong
play what is fun
hexed crane
just coming back from a long break, been playing some monk. monk self heals seem pretty high.
undone sun
it's not, comparably really.
monk toolkit isn't about healing
hexed crane
friend plays resto druid, my health seems pretty smooth with hots/stagger
undone sun
complementing specs, rdruid is consistent healing over time and monk is about smoothing out the damage to a longer duration
hexed crane
i hear the block from warrior can be pretty strong
undone sun
correct
hexed crane
does one require more "babysitting" from the healer?
west galleon
i mean you take less damage per second on monk
distant crystal
reading the spanish part on a wet floor sign eh
hexed crane
lol
undone sun
i'd say monk really
warr mitigates more damage where monk just spreads that damage out over a longer period
just makes it predictable for healers, doesn't really take less damage
west galleon
which is why i said per second..
undone sun
it was more of a counter point to @distant crystal
it's also more about how well they're played, a proper warrior can mitigate damage for quite a while, but there's often quite a disparity between good and bad.
outer dew
I mean
It's even apparent for monks
You ever watch a monk yoyo like a mofo
Shits funny and scary at the same time
undone sun
yup
karmic plinth
dumb question. avatar increases crucible of flame damage?
undone sun
no
Avatar is a whitelist buff, only affects specifically selected abilities, warrior only abilities
strong forum
@sick sentinel urchin gets better in higher keys, in necrotic its weak for obv reasons but idk how you managed to only get 1.6m healing out of it, normally it does like 5-6mil and like 3mil on necrotic / 2khps
sick sentinel
Well it was a sell run and we two chested it so could be why
strong forum
ye, urchin starts getting really good on 18+
sick sentinel
My main tank said he'll give me both edicts and urchin
From mythic
As hes a monk and has urchin already
strong forum
id be a waste if he doesnt have edict
and trades you one
tbh
edict is huge on monk
well both are btter on monk period
but if you dont have either... actually could be good
sick sentinel
Well he wants me to have it because fights where magic damage suck
hallow phoenix
Why is it better on monk? The edict
sick sentinel
S
strong forum
they take more dmg
sick sentinel
He's a lot tanker than me and i dint have null
strong forum
monks take more dmg and more consistent dmg
thus the urchin heals are very complimentary to monks
cuz of stagger dmg alone
and edict because they simply take more dmg in the moment
hallow phoenix
Thanks, thought there was some weird interaction for a second
strong forum
na
strong forum
monks are tankier but they take alot of dmg regardless, its just their toolkit spreads it over a long time, like thyme said
hallow phoenix
Free loot yo
strong forum
weird guild
im fully expecting my guild to wipe on zaq for 3 weeks +
and another 4 weeks on azshara
atleast
hallow phoenix
Question for y'all. Doing 17s and 18s tomorrow and not very experienced at that level. Should I bother with edict or urchin even though it's necrotic? I usually only do 15-16s
strong forum
theyre not as good on necrotic, most people opt not to use them
hallow phoenix
So sticking with gorecrusted and like vial is good?
hallow phoenix
Could also use some advice for ashvane. Guild is progging on it and we're still messing around with positioning. Officers want me and the other tank to drag her mid during burn phase.
This will drop coral in the middle unless we drag her to the wall for every barnacle bash during that phase. Officers seem set on the strat but I was wondering if anyone here has done similar things
What we were doing in previous attempts was moving her about halfway between the wall and the center, for reference
strong forum
always drag bash onto sides, go into middle after 1st razor corals
know which tank takes the beam debuff
thats about it
she does 1 bash after briny bubbles in burn phase, have the other tank taunt after bubbles, take the bash outside, after the bash and him getting the debuff you taunt back into the middle
hallow phoenix
By first razor corals you mean the first set that spawns during shield phase?
strong forum
the first beams
strong forum
she goes as follows:"
Shield Break
Bash which your cotank takes
Beam debuff application on your other tank
you Taunt that cuz she'll do bash again, drop that off to the side
after bash she'll cast Briny bubbles, kite her into the middle with bubble and immune it with berserker rage
Cotank taunts for the next bash + beams, bneams apply 1sec after bash finished
you taunt back after beam debuff application so he can go cut corals
thats the entire burn phase
on phase 1
hallow phoenix
Thank you! That's exactly what I needed
strong forum
and if you use cyclotronic blast on pull, you should have it up the second she starts casting her hardening carapace in burn phase again
but with the HP nerf idk about that one 100%
hidden plaza
420 crit/mast socket legs or 415 tide goddess's? Still ilvl above the crit proc?
hidden plaza
i have 1 120 gem and 1 haste gem do i go 80 str or another haste?
hidden plaza
Ty
sick sentinel
@strong forum do you have edict?
spice ferry
usually 120 str, then 80 str, then haste
sick sentinel
@indigo phoenix never vers
indigo phoenix
wait really
sick sentinel
there is no occasion in the game where you would ever put a vers gem in your gear
indigo phoenix
well thats unlucky xd
you do want vers as a stat on gear though right
or well some vers at least
sick sentinel
eh
no
ilvl>>>>>haste>crit>vers>mastery for dungeons
ilvl>>>>>haste>vers>mastery>crit for raiding
but all stats are close together
so more stats>"better" stats
indigo phoenix
ye i was aware bout the ilvl part
but i just thouht vers is kinda strong for all tanks
sick sentinel
it is
but
do you know why
sit down for a second and use your noggin and try to understand the reason vers is so good for most* tanks
indigo phoenix
Aight budd
sick sentinel
secondly, you can be high rio without knowing what stats do
indigo phoenix
Nvm forget I asked
sick sentinel
people play in MDI and don't know how their gear works
indigo phoenix
Actualy mongol
sick sentinel
I'm trying to help you lmao
strong forum
No I don't
sick sentinel
@strong forum I forgot prot lootspec in QC during our last reclear and I got it and couldn't trade it
strong forum
Well look at it this way
You woulda gotten loot anyway, the other tanks didn't
I'd like to think loot doesn't drop perse, but X amount of people get smth.
vocal canopy
hi is the engineer head 450 better than 3x bastion 435
strong forum
Like, it's not ike you stole an edict, it was just your time to get an item and it so happens to be edict