it did like 150k to me
#protection
sick sentinel
warm plinth
ez
tacit smelt
and IP?
sick sentinel
well ofc
oblique garnet
@sick sentinel you know what your problem is there right 8)
Missing that monk debuff
sick sentinel
lmao
warm plinth
Looks like a healer problem to me tbh
exotic spoke
You killed them Kaege. So that is correct. You also didn’t wipe
warm plinth
#notawipe
exotic spoke
What level WCM?
warm plinth
20
exotic spoke
I’m blind and didn’t look at the screenshot
oblique garnet
Just do boost runs cba pushing anymore
exotic spoke
Is it that demoralizing to be beaten by a bad prot warrior like Riki?
outer dew
Until. You get the tight week
exotic spoke
Last week was good and so is this week
warm plinth
Word
oblique garnet
No not really just dont have a group to push with
exotic spoke
YOU COULDNT MAKE ME FEEL A LITTLE BETTER
oblique garnet
Nope i dont do charity 8)
warm plinth
You're better than me
exotic spoke
Swear to god
sand egret
I dunno...I see a druid in that SS
exotic spoke
I will shank a traitor prot warrior that became a monk
undone sun
👀
warm plinth
Monks are boring. Unless prot was just not viable, there's no way I could do it.
And I'd go to prot pally first
oblique garnet
I swear i didnt volunteer to tank with monk
exotic spoke
That’s what they all say!
oblique garnet
Well yeah if i had a choice
The other option would be benched
And id rather raid
exotic spoke
So you admit you decided to go monk
warm plinth
Yeah that's not really a choice XD
exotic spoke
I’m on to you Late.....
oblique garnet
😪
warm plinth
Poor Late
exotic spoke
I kid I kid ❤
shut summit
Fukmonk
exotic spoke
Regarding pushing / carries. That’s where I was in legion Late.
I could do a 15 for 250k split 4 ways or I could push ankey.
Easy option imo
sick sentinel
Our hunter left us for 1 month because he was boosting
He may have made over 2 mil in a month
But now he's complaining he is not invited to keys anymore
oblique garnet
Those are rookie numbers
As soon as our rl got into gwix he made like 2.5m in the first 2 weeks xd
strong forum
my order or enjoyment
war > vdh > pally > guardian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bdk/monk
oblique garnet
War>guardian>monk>rest
warm plinth
Mine is war>pal>vdh/bdk>guardian>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>monk
VDH would be tied with war but I don't like feeling squishy; it takes away from my fun.
warm plinth
Tbf I haven't played it since 8.2
strong forum
outside of being a bdk
warm plinth
So I haven't played with the changes
warm plinth
Yeah my normal tank said he was invincible during meta but when he didn't have meta or spikes it got sketchy
strong forum
on vdh i run cof + vop
or anime + vop
does lucid give pain or demon spikes
cuz if it gave demon spikes it might actually be giga
strong forum
USELESS
oblique garnet
You can get away with easy to grind essences on most classes
strong forum
you already OVERCAP insanely on pain
if they fix that
- change demon spikes cd
vdh is in a very good spot defensively
oblique garnet
Yeah in shorter fights
warm plinth
Wdym Nome? You can soul cleave more 😏
strong forum
I too love spending a gcd that does negative dmg and healing
outer dew
Holy pala
is a lie
only resource i need
is holy shock CD
if i go oom
it's because some bitchass made me use flash of light
warm plinth
I won't make you use that dirty spell bby
warm plinth
Uhn tiss uhn tiss uhn tiss
wooden radish
@ionic fern SMH simming agi weapons for @thorn spruce smh my head my head my head
oblique garnet
What?
quaint hare
has anyone here had an issue getting VoP rank 2?
I've run Mechagon 3 times (only done it on hardmode) got rank one and learned the essence on my first week running it and done it twice since and still havent gotten the blueprint for rank 2 yet
i run with the same group every week and everyone else had it drop last week but i didnt get it lol
oblique garnet
If you dont have the blueprint for the essence i think you should try and contact gm
quaint hare
yeah i just opened a ticket, was wondering if it was gated behind some quest or something that i missed though maybe someone here had heard about it
oblique garnet
I honestly dont remember if it is or not its been so long since ive done the rank 2 thing
quaint hare
and if thats the case then i also missed out on a week of gizmos for rank 3 bc i should have gotten the blueprint the last time i ran it
😦
honest frigate
I know it's energy based but is there a WA for stacking the purple shit P1 in Azshara?
Would rather just have the WA do the work for me tbh
oblique garnet
Yes there is
wheat bronze
Does Spell Reflection prevent you from triggering Deferred Sentence on Court?
umbral forge
How many here play Warrior just because asmon plays it
oblique garnet
umbral forge
You've changed man. You used to be kakoi.
He plays it in retail too.
Considering getting my warrior ready and tossing him into TEP
Being blood is suffering.
umbral forge
👍 it aint worse than BOTE 3
oblique garnet
it is
wheat bronze
You can grind BOTE. Null is mostly time gated.
tawny maple
Does versatility also affect shield amount? I cant remember
wheat bronze
Like Ignore Pain shield? Yeah
tawny maple
Nah nah like trinket shields
wheat bronze
Yes
tawny maple
Asking for both Edict and Diamond
outer dew
@sick sentinel how's fury in keys?
tawny maple
Isnt Diamond recharge also affected by Haste?
undone sun
yes
tawny maple
Pretty neato
round vortex
I have so many trinkets I can figure out which ones to use lol stupid titanforge
430 rezans
440 socket jes howler
445 bandages
415 prism
430 edict
Mechagon beam
I’ve been running jez (lines up with mag orc racial) and rotating the other trinket based on fight.
I’d much prefer just coral and inkpod and be done with it 😂
torn knoll
Question font of power for prot? just got it off of H and its a 445 to my 440 but my 440 also has a heal proc
so font of power or Lingering Sporepod
look at the name of this emote
torn knoll
welp works for me font it is
hushed cobalt
null dynamo works on necrotic? and does the absorb get smaller with stacks?
floral sphinx
Guys finally hit neck lvl 65 what essence should I use for keys? And raid?
wheat bronze
Null should only be affected by necrotic if you gain the buff while you have necrotic stacks, it shouldn't reduce the size of the absorb that is already active on you, right?
grand drum
null isn't affected by necrotic at all...
sick sentinel
for keys would you suggest 3x thunderclap traits or 1 bloodsport and 1 callous reprisal?
icy garnet
I think bloodsport is dansgame my guy.
sick sentinel
dansgame?
undone sun
not good
ember arrow
Wow good?
ionic fern
Yeno.
ember arrow
😱
ivory barn
from reading the WoWhead guide, I want to make sure that I am reading this right because im main spec swaapping from fury to prot for my Guild soon. the 2/3 on the top row are my damage trinkets, and the 2/3 on the bottom row are my defensive trinkets correct?
ionic fern
1)Sim for damage.
2)Yes - tho Rezan's can be given a thought in this category as well.
ivory barn
Ah, ok. I didnt know if Prot simmed for DPS or not. thats good to know
brittle owl
all tanks sim for dps
jade shell
does last stand critical block
distant crystal
based on your block chance
undone sun
Yes
autumn pendant
Leech
ionic fern
🇳 🇴 🇱 🇪 🇪 🇨 🇭
autumn pendant
Took you a while
autumn pendant
Its 8 am for me, no break for you
ivory barn
one last question, about Azerite Traits, This is my current gear (fury has teh 450's), Should i switch the 450's out and use em as prot now?
ivory barn
i only have 450 shoulders/helm
distant crystal
if you can't pick up a DC from one of those then you'll prob keep your helm
shoulders you'll definitely use
what traits do they have for prot
ivory barn
but the shoulders have Bloodsport or CR/ BM. and helm has DC or BfI/BS
distant crystal
then yeah prob use em both
ivory barn
which traits on the helm?
was gonna go Blood on shoulders
distant crystal
cr/bom/heed/bulwarkk for raid prob
maybe vampiric depending on what you're fighting
for shoulders
ionic fern
Heed's horrible.
I'd take UF any day.
ivory barn
dont use AS?
ivory barn
RF is a fury trait....
ivory barn
im prot not fury... cant even clikc that lol
distant crystal
just be fury when you click it
it gives you dmg for prot
and if you don't have that rallying cry trait on your other slot
take that
if you do take impassive
sick sentinel
Rf is bis st trait for prot
distant crystal
the tank had 1 of those traits in a key i just did
and mind you it's not great for keys
it's better for ST/raids
but 1 trait was 4.3% of his overall dmg
distant crystal
so imagine on a single target situation
distant crystal
in a key it's still better than bloodsport
tho :p
i guess incite the pack might be better on that row for keys
but you're mostly concerned with raid anyhoo
i think that's incite the pack at least, or is that rezan's fury
ivory barn
its ItP
distant crystal
yeah for raid i'd def run ReckFlurr there
and i'm not sure about arcane heart on your chest
callous reprisal isn't too great there either so it might be better
distant crystal
yeah you prob have the right one there, i don't know much about arcane heart though maybe someone more knowledgeable will chime in
i know it isn't great but neither is CR
and since you already have a MoG you can do impassive on your helm
ivory barn
ok cool, Thanks! Essence Guide showed me to sorta run this layout. but outside of that I should be set. Unless there is something i dont know
distant crystal
null dynamo is real good
start grinding them oscillators :p
and i think cruci major is best for ST deeps i'm p sure
ionic fern
Okay, get this out of the way :
What do you want? DPS or survival?
ivory barn
more Survival honestly. I dps like a truck atm
looking at the WoWhead guide right now
ionic fern
ST DPS:
CoF Major, Null (r3)/C&S
Survival wise i'd rather take
Undying major
ivory barn
Thank you guys a lot. I really appriecate it!
brittle owl
it's honestly the only really good defensive major essence
aegis is only considered for minor
ionic fern
Idk why but i have a sudden urge to play a enhancement Shaman.
brittle owl
stormstrike
brittle owl
smh
not knowing unbreakable
next thing you know you'll say vurtne or drakedog don't ring a bell
brittle owl
vanilla pvp is highkey GIGA fun
exotic spoke
Sounds like it could trigger the sudden urge to play enhance shaman
It’s low key about globalling people - which could be high key GIGA fun
undone sun
😴
exotic spoke
Oof. But yeah thyme you’re right
exotic spoke
This is what scotch does to me after two months of not drinking anything and losing 20 pounds
exotic spoke
I should be sleeping - that’s why thyme is right
exotic spoke
And?
brittle owl
r u deded?
exotic spoke
I dunno. How do I know you’re real?
exotic spoke
Maybe I am then
brittle owl
ok then sleep
exotic spoke
Maybe I’m drunk?
brittle owl
but if you're not
exotic spoke
No maybe
undone sun
Who knows
brittle owl
then don't sleep
exotic spoke
Mean
undone sun
Was just referring to it being a sleeper topic, since we don't have :residentsleeper: 🙃
undone sun
It was also vanilla
exotic spoke
Get a crit and one shot kids
undone sun
Not exactly the Pinnacle of difficulty
brittle owl
you guys talk a lot of hardcore/tryhard gamer shit
limpid pawn
Ok, so I think I figured out the best pulls for freehold boosts
brittle owl
when the topic is WoW
ionic fern
Game was haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaard. I had to read quests and actually figure out where to go instead of having a marker on my map, wtf guys.
undone sun
😴
exotic spoke
It was buggy and tedious != hard
outer dew
riki
limpid pawn
Using a 440 vial has been good
exotic spoke
Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
outer dew
when we doing keys or classsic
ionic fern
Diddn't even get the sarcasm, pssh.
limpid pawn
For the giga pulls, it’s amazing
outer dew
wait
exotic spoke
@outer dew not tonight when you free
ionic fern
OR. Don't drink at all.
outer dew
RIKI
undone sun
Lots of water too
exotic spoke
@brittle owl that’s a trap
outer dew
I DON'T DRINK
brittle owl
water for the morning
outer dew
THIS A SCAM
exotic spoke
@outer dew that’s not what o said.... I said I shouldn’t
outer dew
betrayed af
exotic spoke
Missed perfect mechagon by one death...... fucking dps died after Kujo by falling into the fire
brittle owl
u dunno what salt coffee does do you thyme
outer dew
I just bought 5 lbs of now and layers
Laters
Was that the play?
And I bought shit to make m&m cookies because I got nostalgic
undone sun
I know of salt coffee, but haven't heard it being specifically useful against alcohol
exotic spoke
@brittle owl I’m not drunk enough to try that. Salt, caffeine, and alcohol all remove water from your body as your blood stream now contains less water per volume than normal.
Thus you get more dehydrated and a worse hangover
exotic spoke
I’ll feel sober - I won’t be sober. Coffee doesn’t sober you up it wakes you up. They aren’t the same.
outer dew
Sober RQ
exotic spoke
Though - getting punched / slapped will help sober you up
brittle owl
or puking
exotic spoke
Body rejecting poison (alcohol)
undone sun
turkey
outer dew
What cut of meat is it?
brittle owl
bacon
undone sun
cut up like bacon
brittle owl
from turkey
exotic spoke
That said it’s almost 3 am and I have to be up in 6 hours max for work.
Goodnight! And I’m not that drunk (that’s what drunk people say I know)
exotic spoke
A turkey obv
outer dew
What cut is it?
brittle owl
breast iirc
exotic spoke
I don’t think a breast is fatty enough
outer dew
That's kind of lame
exotic spoke
Night (before I get side tracked)
undone sun
oh it's mixed
it's not one specific part
it's formed into the bacon
processed
🙃
exotic spoke
Like molded ?
exotic spoke
Hrmm
undone sun
basically
exotic spoke
Just eat regular bacon IMO
undone sun
it's less fatty
healthier
i definitely wouldn't chose it over pork bacon, but it's not terrible
exotic spoke
If you’re eating XXXXX “bacon” you’re not eating it for health reasons
undone sun
idd
exotic spoke
So fuck it - it the real thing unless it conflicts with your morales
Religious / ethical / whatever
@lusty grotto right Nim?
exotic spoke
Night guys!
brittle owl
nn
ionic fern
😂
brittle owl
nah its cut like a pancake
but its actually a huge hot dog
a big ass XXXXL frankfurter
undone sun
oh i know, it's formed like a salami
and cut down
but the average consumer eats it as hotdog pancakes
brittle owl
shame, panfrying them as small cubes is lowkey awsome
even better if you get mortadella, which is the 'fancy' italian version
outer dew
I likes fried bologna sandwiches when I was younger thh
outer dew
I mean
I wouldn't be surprised
You know what I never understood
Why are people grossed put by proccseed meats
brittle owl
cuz it looks like pink slime
outer dew
disgusting
outer dew
Tbh
Most vegans I know are coo
I respect their life choice if they wanna roll with it
Just respect mine
brittle owl
i mean the ethics spouting ones
outer dew
Meh, people are dumb and like to put themselves on a higher moral ground
brittle owl
tru
outer dew
It's always funny when you hear the bat shit crazy people
Throwing seafood back into the ocean or releasing animals
When they're turbo fucked if they get released
sick sentinel
Did I get shadow Pinged
outer dew
I pinged you and never responded
Yea.....
Release these animals with no skills to live to die
brittle owl
or like save a sea skate and keep it in a tank lmao
autumn pendant
how very dare you
outer dew
Sounds latr
marble cipher
Is the IV guide "correct" in stating that the third minor in M+ (in general) should be Aegis?
VoP + Lucid + Aegis?
spice ferry
probably depends on the type of content we're talking about
strong forum
Aegis/CnS are very good for m+
marble cipher
10-15 M+
not higher, not raids
purely simming, CoF sims higher, but I guess the vers gives a lot more than only dps due to dmg reduction and stuff?
sick sentinel
VoP major, Aegis/CnS
you're simming 5 minutes
lucid/aegis and cns should sim higher with actual correct times
short m+ pulls
marble cipher
I don't have CnS, so, I'll stick to VoP/Aegis/Lucid for now
sick sentinel
Cns only takes two weeks
marble cipher
for rank 2, rank 3 however 😄
marble cipher
I suck at arena, massively, don't think I'll go 1.6k rating soonish (which is what you need to get rank 3 "fast-ish")
undone sun
IV is generally defensive anyway
marble cipher
if you're > 1.6k rating
strong forum
I mean...
marble cipher
(maybe 1.4k, not sure)
strong forum
1.6k is not alot
spice ferry
dont you start at like 1.5k?
marble cipher
you start at 0
marble cipher
ah, like that
strong forum
You get 96 rating per win until like 1k
Then you get less and less until you reach your mmr
marble cipher
Well, none the less, I'll just have to play pvp to at least go for rank 2, and then see about rank 3 in time
lunar bramble
Battle for nazj
strong forum
Fuck that
strong forum
I have 3hrs a day of free time Im not wasting that on nazj
lunar bramble
Battle literally takes 5 minutes to win..
lunar bramble
Imagine that
sick sentinel
lmao
spice ferry
cant agree more
nazj and mecha are horrible
two of my most hated zones ever
cant think of a zone i like less than them
sick sentinel
...
scarlet wedge
Can someone help me, i am currently tanking on Orgozoa and im tanking the boss together with a Paladin, and i am am having trouble with surviving reliably when actively tanking, and i wonder if i am using the propper talents/traits/essences, everything i see on top logs and wowhead seems to go more for dmg than survivability i hope one of you is willing to help me 😄
this is the log to see what i was running myself:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/kdPnzaxcNQgKVLFR#fight=59&source=132
ionic fern
Seems fine.
Not sure why you're running Safe Guard but why not i guess - just have to be SUPER careful when using it on co-tank.
Wipe 4 you died due to not having SB up while actively tanking the boss:
Wipe 6 seems like you were soaking but your co-tank decided to chain of suffering you causing you to die.
scarlet wedge
it just feels super RNG atm with rage generation or is that just how the fight works due to the dmg intake?
ionic fern
You can plan for it tho? You know when you're about to tank.
If you struggle with rage you can also run BV to just have that "40 rage on demand" button tho it shouldn't be needed.
scarlet wedge
i always try to have 90+ rage before taunting and possibly 3 stacks of the Revenge trait for the small 1.5% DR
ionic fern
If you have block up for the first 5-6 stacks you'll be fine. Just pop Demo Shout for the first hits ontop of SB if you want.
Just pool SB if needed before taunt swapping.
So you have 2 stacks to go.
scarlet wedge
yea i do that, i just feel like i never have enough rage for IP to smooth the dmg intake, i always go SB > IP tho
ionic fern
IP won't make or brake anything in that scenario.
SB + DS is fine.
So don't worry about having enough rage for IP just focus on having SB/Bolster up.
And tell your paladin co-tank not to chain of suffer you while you're soaking.
😒
Just let him use externals.
scarlet wedge
yea we changed it to him using it on the add tank
after i died to it
he knew he fucked up 😛
ionic fern
😂
scarlet wedge
but does the traits/essences seem fine?
cause i think that is where i am the most insecure
ionic fern
Jeah, nothing wrong with those.
Orgo is just a big "DO YOU HAVE SHIELD BLOCK UP?????" test .
scarlet wedge
yea ok, thanks alot for it
ionic fern
Also - there's #449510248579858432 channel. So post the logs there next time. : )
scarlet wedge
yea, wanted advice mostly on the talents/traits/essences rather than the logs themselves
but thanks none the less
strong forum
I always start on orgo with last stand
graceful sundial
I just start tanking boss with last stand.
strong forum
Keep up demo, use shieldwall if you're below 4 stacks and you feel you need it
graceful sundial
And after that I chain SB and DS
ionic fern
Slackers.
JUst have enough rage for SB and then Demo before taunting as well.
strong forum
After 4 stacks you should be fine
Last stand when freshly starting is giga comf
Having BoM is also a game changer
Cuz I remember having 0 BoM stacks vs now having 2 BoM
And avatar + LS is literally critblock heaven vs him
scarlet wedge
paladin is the one who starts on the fight, so i have plenty of rage when i taunt
strong forum
I also play booming voice
I feel like that's huge when tanking orgo
Cuz I start on boss with 70 rage
Insta
fringe marten
How do you 'use' the essence of heart abilities? (Crucible of flame) I just returned to game.
strong forum
/use heart essence
fringe marten
you have to macro it?
strong forum
Or drag it onto your bars
fringe marten
I literally drug my heart item into my bar but it's not using it.
strong forum
The literal neck
ionic fern
I almost got baited into thinking this was a rotation question.
strong forum
Idk im using macro
fringe marten
what would be the showtooltip for the use macro?
strong forum
#showtooltip
Is enough
It'll grab the rest on its own
#showtooltip
/use heart essence
Or was it /cast
Can't remember
fringe marten
yeah hotbaring the neck doesn't allow me to use it? I know the new ability is 'locked' into it.
strong forum
Just make the macro then, easy enough
ionic fern
You don't put the NECK itself onto the bars - you put the spell (CoF).
fringe marten
you drag the spell from the neck icon?
fringe marten
oh got it..shift click the neck, then drag the slotted power. done
ionic fern
👌
fringe marten
cool we got it, thanks. Now what's the best prot one I need to be gunning for?
ionic fern
For what?
strong forum
There's like 4
ionic fern
CoF/Null(r3)/VoP/Lucid/Sphere/C&S
fringe marten
Ah...obviously one for raid, one for M+...there has to be most one that edges the others out in each situation.
ionic fern
Yes - but each situation is different..do you want to focus on damage? On survivability? What's the damage type of the fight?Etcetcetc.
strong forum
Basically you want all the ones mwahi listed
fringe marten
Which come from doing story line?
fringe marten
You mean the quest to obtain X new power triggers from Y neck level?
ionic fern
CoF R3 is achievable once you get 60 neck level .
fringe marten
and man fixing my weak auras was almost scary, I thought they were totally screwed. had to assign the images to them again and convert to the 'new' aura thing.
fringe marten
thanks again all.
scarlet wedge
For orgozoa, should i just try and stack mastery for crit block?
ionic fern
No.
You don't rely on RNG as a tank.
You just use what ever is the highest ilvl item for you - SB alone (if you're scared use DS as well) is enough for you to survive Orgos first stacks.
scarlet wedge
i am currently enchanted and gemmed for crit, because i main fury but i suppose it would be better to change it up, what should i try and go for stat wise?
strong forum
Haste > rest
Call for externals too on orgo
Until 3 stacks it's very scary
So I more often than not call for Pain sup or iron bark
But yeah, don't be scared to use shieldwall on early stacks and start with last stand
scarlet wedge
what weapon enchant would you use? im using Quick navigation atm cause i have the attack speed weapon from Za'qul(i think)
ionic fern
Either that or Force Multiplier.
pseudo spindle
Hi guys, is reckless fury still working as prot warrior ? I played yesterday with 2 of those trait but 0 proc 😶
pseudo spindle
Look, here we see i have 2 reckless flurry
that's why i don't understand :/ i'm supposed to have a line with reckless flurry too but i don't ^^'
pseudo spindle
no it wasn't i've been trying to take my azerite pieces off / on but it's the only thing
(sorry for my english :D)
ionic fern
Inbound blizzard stealth hotfix 😂
warm plinth
Weird. That’s what I was thinking Mwahi lol
ionic fern
Tho i did my runs yesterday as well and it was working then.
warm plinth
I don’t have any RF or id jump on and try it
strong forum
Maybe he had bugged azerite
Cuz I remember that being a thing
Never noticed that on myself
But I heard others have had such issues
ionic fern
Most likely reason.
warm plinth
Did you try reforging Arc?
strong forum
Cuz my RF worked yesterday all night
Man I was hoping they'd nerf it
You made me have my hopes up
ionic fern
They diddn't.
warm plinth
Some men just want to watch the world burn
pseudo spindle
😂
ionic fern
I don't see a problem with it personally tho.
It's just a choice you can make if you want to play for parses but it's not mandatory by any means.
Tho it's a boring trait from prots PoV.."Increases AA damage..ok". 😂
lunar jackal
I agree. And since it brings nothing defensively I find it only for memeing.
lunar jackal
even in mplus?
strong forum
That's just me being autistic getting pissed off not getting orange log
Yes
RF is steady 700-800 dps
unkempt delta
Hey guys general tank question. Does azerite veins trait stack?
random urchin
It does, I wouldn’t stack it though
ionic fern
@unkempt delta
I don't mind RF bringing nothing defensively on the table. We have more than enough tools to deal with different situations already.
exotic spoke
Its a dps thing and that’s it. Also^^
random urchin
It’s been a while since I’ve done mecha stuff. Anyone know off the top of their head how much r3 null costs?
lunar jackal
40 crates 15 purple things
random urchin
Thanks
random urchin
Lol man, my warrior is my third alt. I barely do anything beside M+ on him
lunar jackal
I feel that. Alt whore o/
ionic fern
I gave up with essences on my alts. Just waiting for the inevitable "Essences are now account wide" or "If you have this essence on main you can get it on alt cheaper".
lunar jackal
Btw guys is anywhere here how to use coral trinket on prot?
random urchin
I mostly have given up on essences, but my warr is hitting 65 this week and null would help a ton in some dungeons
ionic fern
Use it together with Avatar. You usually end with 6-8 stacks when Avatar comes back off cd.
lunar jackal
@ionic fern with all the time ive put on my "alts" (they are more like second mains lol) I'd cut my foreskin
if they did that essence thing
Tho agree with you.
When I found out lucid dreams achieve was not good enough to buy it on alts i was like "wtf?"
exotic spoke
@brittle owl why were you trying to keep intoxicated Riki up and get him more dehydrated last night?
oblique garnet
@strong forum RF is not good in keys stop trying to make it good even though IF doesnt do as much damage it also provides you with more defensiveness -> bigger pulls > more overall damage
ionic fern
Do you really-really go "hmm..i got IF so i can do gigapulls now"?
oblique garnet
No i do giga pulls anyways
ionic fern
👌
oblique garnet
But IF helps more than RF
exotic spoke
Lol
warm plinth
Tbh I’d probably notice if I lost my 2 IFs on my warrior
ionic fern
O.o
warm plinth
I have a super low shield so it’s a pretty big difference for me
strong forum
I had 400 Hits of if and 800 Hits of RF
Soo...
Pulling bigger wouldn't help
Unless I pull like 150% count :D
I didn't want to make out for RF to be better than if
I was just saying what's the case for me
And cba reforging back and forth for a 1% difference from raid to m+
BTW has anyone found useful 'snap spots' for FH yet?
Cuz I might run around and try out if I can find one
brittle owl
@exotic spoke so you really don't know that if you put salt instead of sugar in your coffee
especially when you're drunk
you insta vomit?
green helm
been afk for awhile, can someone tldr this RF for me
exotic spoke
Reckless flurry is a pure dps trait. It’s a Fury trait but prot can get the bonus auto attack damage it provides.
green helm
Its been around for ages though right ? something changed?
exotic spoke
Usually used for parsing / helping with dps / fun because the person using it has determined they don’t need any more survivability
Yes, it’s been around. Some people have just determined that they don’t need more survivability and can focus on dps
It may not be for everyone / every situation
warm plinth
Should be noted that it's best for single target. There are better traits once you enter multi-target territory
green helm
always saw BoM last tier and SS this tier for single target , must of totally glossed over it lol. well wont be using it for azshara M so gota wait D:
ty for info boys
exotic spoke
Welcome man
strong forum
Current meme parse build is RF + BfI and HR talent
exotic spoke
Doesn’t HR versus AM depend on fight length?
warm plinth
Yeah I thought HR was only on really short fights
strong forum
No idea
All I see is HR being run on some
And them doing like 40k dps :angery:
Fucking behemoth parse is 40.5k
Higher than highest sivarra... Like... Huh???
exotic spoke
Are they one phasing it?
exotic spoke
If they are one phasing it - then they don’t have the downtime caused if they have to run out and drop off the shit
sand egret
like 40k dps insane? 🙂
exotic spoke
I believe we’ve reached the point for those guilds having insane dps
frigid heart
does anyone know why sometimes the orange puddles disappear for us on mythic zaqul, then we only have 3 when ppl need to go down?
sand egret
I think I'm finally ready to work on an alt. I think...
I can get VoP pretty easily, so that's in the bag. I'm thinking of springing for the CnS minor early, or just do the quick quests for lucid. Not really going to try to rep grind Nazj/Rusty for the Aegis/Null ones.
strong forum
I mean my guild has actually quite good dps, but we couldn't get behemoth lower than 35% in 1 phase
Nvm im retarded
40.5k is on radiance
Looo
Behemoth is 35k
exotic spoke
@sand egret what key do you have this week?
lunar bramble
Can anyone tell me what to check in logs to see who was / wasn't prepotting?
sand egret
Uh, currently sitting with a TD
random urchin
Could always go through each individual and check buff uptime
strong forum
You can check in details
exotic spoke
Rip
warm plinth
Does Details show prepots though? Since you haven't actually started combat yet?
exotic spoke
Logs will tell that. I don’t know about details
warm plinth
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Details won't but I'd have to waste a pot and double check and I'm at work and Nome can do it
😄
warm plinth
Yeah that's true; if it's higher than 25 seconds, they prepotted
exotic spoke
It shows the number of instances
exotic spoke
No bullfango we’re still raiding. Ashvane at 2-4% multiple pulls Tuesday.
The bitch does tonight
sand egret
wym, that's on their app?
modern brook
No i need a guild
sand egret
"LF Rogue, mediocre io only"
exotic spoke
Want to come to heroic on Wednesday and see if we’re a good fit and vice versa?
modern brook
Ur alliance right?
modern brook
Yeh i gotta spend money to raid w/ u :^(
exotic spoke
Either way I can get you in guild - I can’t promise to get you on mythic team
exotic spoke
Then if you’d like to join I can absolutely get you an invite
modern brook
I've loggeed in every day for the last like 4 weeks to 4/467 people in my guild online
exotic spoke
And you can come to off night raids as you desire
modern brook
I dont raid so i cant really apply to other guilds worth applying to
exotic spoke
We don’t have as many people online as before classic. But usually able to find keys in guild
modern brook
Its me the [night] elf rogue
modern brook
Blizzard is denying me a refund on my 3 month subscription renewal (which happened yesterday) because i left a game in heroes of the storm in 2012
exotic spoke
Are you serious?
sand egret
come again?
modern brook
They said "At the moment we will not be issuing a refund on this account. Due to a recent penalty on the account. All sales are final and this account is not eligible for refunds."
which is basically what i was expecting minus that middle sentence
random urchin
Wut
modern brook
the only penalty I've ever gotten was a 3 day ban in HotS cause i left a game
(multiple times)
exotic spoke
What state do you live in?
modern brook
CT
exotic spoke
May not work - some states don’t like the “all sales are final” thingy
sand egret
well that's bizarre
exotic spoke
Lol I’m not saying it
modern brook
so i figured that was the case before I sent the ticket in
sand egret
they didn't cite the penalty?
modern brook
I was just hoping they'd be lax cause i litterally missed my cut off by maybe ~5 hours
exotic spoke
I’m pretty sure some states don’t like that
warm plinth
You're not allowed to leave games in HotS?
warm plinth
So what? It's a video game lol
random urchin
you could always try filing a case with your CC company for a charge back. I’ve had some luck in the past with AMEX getting money back due to me being dumb and not cancelling things on time
modern brook
B A N N A B L E
exotic spoke
I’d argue HoTS is a dead game so why does it matter
warm plinth
WoW doesn't do anything for leaving arena matches do they?
exotic spoke
@random urchin could cause problems for his account with blizzard long term
modern brook
u get a debuff to prevent rejoining them
warm plinth
So they can't just do that? o_O
modern brook
THey do for the first couple
It was a pattern
so they were like
hey stop that
The ban wasnt unjustified, no qualms with it
warm plinth
That seems silly. But whatever haha. I played HotS long enough to get my flamesaber and that was it
random urchin
@exotic spoke yeah, just throwing it out there as an option
modern brook
Just really confused how its the reason i cant get my money back
so i awkwardly have until Dec 10 to feel like wow is worth my money again
sand egret
@warm plinth issue is that in that game vs say an arena it's got a significantly higher social cost
modern brook
and im just like desperately thinking of people that play who arent on the classic train
and that left me with the prot discord
lol
sand egret
you're fucking over 9 other people, for instance, for up to 30 minutes
sand egret
no no no
modern brook
nah no ringers
random urchin
Can’t to that for MOBAs
modern brook
Again, no qualms with my HOTS ban
warm plinth
I see
modern brook
totally justified
sand egret
yeah, seems weird why that would affect your shit now though
warm plinth
Indeed
sand egret
i wonder if you have another strike or something you're not aware of
sand egret
speaking of 
...membie a certain who would "never touch classic".... 🤔
warm plinth
Nimclassic?
modern brook
Between him and the guild i have nothing to do except grind flying and try to pug past keystone master
exotic spoke
Yeah... I see chip on classic a lot
warm plinth
I wonder how good ole @lusty grottoclassic is doing anyway
junior ivy
my laptop finally shipped but i didnt know it was shipping from china 😡
modern brook
Make sure you remove the camera chips when it arives
warm plinth
Ohhhh dear
junior ivy
huh
warm plinth
What sketchy ass website did you buy this thing from
junior ivy
not sketchy haha
warm plinth
I thought you got it from one of those Amazon "stores" or something
junior ivy
its sent from china cause i got it custom built , needed more RAM
wanted 16gb instead of 8
warm plinth
Makes sense
warm plinth
Wait, what?
junior ivy
and facial recognition
warm plinth
Since when is laptop RAM not upgradeable?
junior ivy
in the thinkpad x390 its not
warm plinth
That's dumb
warm plinth
I see
junior ivy
i wanna unlock it with my face!
warm plinth
It's so Russia can have all her pictures
exotic spoke
I cover any laptop camera I have
junior ivy
m,ine comes with a little cover for the camera
modern brook
@junior ivy u dont need facial recognition u just need more force
exotic spoke
Ok then that’s good
modern brook
Or a more accurate nose
warm plinth
That being said I also don't have a laptop except for work so
I'm just busting Riki's balls
exotic spoke
I mean you do you. But #protectyourdata
modern brook
Alternatively sell your data for pennies that u can use for gacha games
hasty nova
pugging keystone master isn't to bad
warm plinth
Idk if it's every bit but it's a lot. The file I got had shitloads of stuff
modern brook
@hasty nova already have master
pugging past it is the problem
lots of 16-17s posted
hasty nova
u ally or horde?
modern brook
Problem is a) finding a group that can actually finish them (esepcially with the classic exodus) and b) finding aynthing past that
hasty nova
17's are pretty rare lately on alliance side
modern brook
Horde
Generally tues-friday 16-17 are plentiful
and as people burn their keys things die down to 10s
hasty nova
10s lol
modern brook
by monday ~20% of the keys advertised are just selling
hasty nova
thats quite the burn
yeah there are a shit ton of selling i have to filter out
monday is a horrible day for pugs and i hate it
modern brook
I mean i dont think htey burn down 7 levels
but like yeah
Whos going to try and pug a 16 on a monday
with the intent of timing it
If you're running that late in the week you have a group
and so many people are just doing a 15 then stopping for the week
(especially in pugs)
so the quality/quantity of keys dies super fast in my experience
Even worse a lot of people are carrying guildies into 16s
so some random off meta 340ilvl dps will just be a fucking weight on an otherwise easily timed key
hasty nova
Yeah i don't understand why ppl don't want to do that. Monday is a great day imo.
- Its a weekday, so u come home from school or work and have the night (which most ppl stay in on monday) and time to do it.
- It is not a common raid night. Most ppl run raids TWR or T R.
- Last chance to boost score before reset, and people already have new gear and practice on the affixes.
I always figured Monday would be the best day to push, but in the real world no one has any desire to at that point or something.
modern brook
Yeah its sorta pissy
hasty nova
like, you do keys all week and get used to the affix and emissary locations.
and on a night where u have free time you just...? .... Don't run or push anymore? lol makes no sense
so i try to get my pushes in on sat and sunday
seems to be the best time to get ppl
modern brook
p sure they need monday to make complaints on reddit about how bfa is sucha grind and classic is a more challenging and rewarding experience
hasty nova
espeially since i can't push on TWR since i raid those three days
modern brook
The big thing for me in modern wow and why im probably unsubbing come dec
is that I have like 0 desire to raid
ITs super frustrating to me
and it serves soley as a way to get gear for more interesting content (to me)
so i have llike 0 EP logs (and since classic killed my guild i have zero things to vouch for myself aside from what i consider a realtively mediorce io score)
hasty nova
Yeah man pick your own preference. I totally get why people get frustrated with mythic raiding (or heroic for that matter). Dying over and over again can be super frustrating.
I personally love where wow is right now as far as overall experience and mechanics and animations. Sure a lot can be done to improve the experience, but compared to other MMO's and games retail WoW is really amazing.
modern brook
honestly i dont even mind BFA's grind
hasty nova
Tho i will certainly be taking a break when that ff7 remake comes out? anyone else see that new trailer
gosh that was good
modern brook
I've noticed it alot more now though, since i have literally nothing to do when i log in
I'm just doing dailies because im paying per month to play the game
hasty nova
Well man you got ur own life to live. I love wow. It definitely fulfills it's role as a video game for me.
strong forum
potent anvil
FF7 remake 
sand egret
but it looks dooope
sand egret
7 was my first rpg tbh
strong forum
But didn't like the combat
strong forum
I'm extremely fucked up when it comes to games