Same
#protection
exotic spoke
weary thorn
right there with ya both on shit rings/trinkets
my monk has been benched for weeks and still has higher equipped/better trinkets
outer dew
leather is the easiest to gear funnel
flat jackal
How does lingering spores trinket from UR do in high keys?
is the healing worth it ?
flat jackal
I wouldn't know, hence why I'm asking 😦
sand egret
it's bad
warm plinth
@outer dew #twinning?
warm plinth
warm plinth
I knew they weren't bae though. No Asian woman in the pfp
distant crystal
just another appreciator of high quality ethical proteins
warm plinth
Interesting
Also I miss my second monitor already
This is making me sad
Alt-tabbing for Discord 🤢
strong crescent
Gross no second monitor is rough
outer dew
Wdym, big brain is to use discord overlay
warm plinth
Yeah I'm on a work trip. I did bring my mouse and keyboard but I'm on my work laptop 😬
outer dew
:^)
warm plinth
Where's muh background 😂
outer dew
@warm plinth did you y'all know I'm nicknames tofu rather than actually tofu @sand egret
So clearly I'm dedicated tofu
Cant change my name here if I wanted
Apparently annoy4d someone enough when i changed it
😂
warm plinth
I didn't understand a thing you just said
warm plinth
It was when I looked like 15 seconds ago
outer dew
Someone gave me a nickname
Sonits tofu on this server
Eventhough you cant change nicknames
uneven helm
Tofu
uneven helm
are you not my tofu? 
uneven helm
now my tofu 😦
tofu was an old guildie of mine sorry
thought he came back to the game
uneven helm
nah tofu would never forget me sorry for the disturbance
outer dew
Nah, be like me and forget everyone
I've had a poor girl come up to me
And say hi to me, and I had no clue who she was twice
warm plinth
Wow Tofu. If I ever come up to you and you pretend you don’t know me...
I’ll understand 😭
oblique garnet
Was she asian 8)
outer dew
Yea, but I have the oppisote problem of some people.
I cant tell white people apart, but asians I can
😤
warm plinth
Wow can’t even tell me apart. Why do I tolerate this toxicity in our relationship
outer dew
Wdym
warm plinth
Late is a 17 a big boy key?
warm plinth
Is it like
outer dew
Theres a bunch of white people, but only one ghash
warm plinth
A non-peon key?
outer dew
😍 😍 😍
warm plinth
🥰
oblique garnet
Its a decent key
warm plinth
Nice. I’m decent
oblique garnet
Did you do it on a warrior tho
warm plinth
...No 😦
oblique garnet
😪
warm plinth
Still waiting for you to resub 🤔
undone sun
👀
warm plinth
Is your pally ready? Lol
oblique garnet
Thyme you resubbing soon?
outer dew
I mean
undone sun
I'm resubbed currently but it was for classic, which I haven't even logged on to
undone sun
I also used the last bit of gold I had
warm plinth
Thyme, so close yet so far
undone sun
Retail takes up too much ssd space, cba to go through that just to not enjoy it again
9.0 though
High hopes
Uhhhhhhghh
undone sun
Gnome-thankyou
oblique garnet
Retail is fun 8)
oblique garnet
I just finished doing my pvp cap on my warlock which had 0 cr was placed against 2k people 8))
Fun
oblique garnet
You never really quit wow for good tho
undone sun
To me wow ended with bfa
oblique garnet
Theres always something that makes you resub
outer dew
Man, I've been craving a dank pastrami sandwich
warm plinth
Tbh I just resub when I feel like playing. It's not even for certain patches or anything lol
outer dew
That sounds equally dank
undone sun
Yes
warm plinth
I just get the MMO itch and don't feel like starting a new MMO
undone sun
Pastrami pizza is god tier
warm plinth
You're a pastrami pizza
outer dew
Pastrami in general is great
warm plinth
👍
undone sun
Add some prosciutto
oblique garnet
Ghash there is no other mmo worth playing
warm plinth
If you're pastrami pizza, idk what that makes Tofu 🤔
undone sun
👀
warm plinth
Yeah that's kinda how I feel about it as well
undone sun
FF
outer dew
FF is okay
warm plinth
Never been a Final Fantasy fan
undone sun
I don't play it but a vast majority of the people I know who quit wow migrated over to ff14
oblique garnet
I dont remember any other mmo that had as good endgame content as wow does
Theres many promising kickstarter mmos etc but they never take off/ takes years to finish
outer dew
BFA is only miserable because classes feel bad
oblique garnet
Essences are good addition to that
undone sun
Reheated pizza for too long 😭
oblique garnet
Its a step into right direction
undone sun
Eh
oblique garnet
However some of the requirements on them should be fixed/made account bound
undone sun
Pastrami anything tbh
outer dew
Tbh
It throws people off
But for sandwiches I like dijon mustard, mayo, and soy sauce
Mayo and soy sauce is bliss imo
undone sun
Never tried soy sauce with it like that
outer dew
Miracle whip shouldnt exist
undone sun
Indeed
warm plinth
When I first moved here, a bar asked me if I wanted mayo with my burger. I said yes. Brought back 2 packets of miracle whip
oblique garnet
Whats the difference between mayo and miracle whip?
undone sun
Butter vs I can't believe it's not butter
oblique garnet
Again these are words that mean nothing to me since ive never had either
undone sun
IE margarine
outer dew
Sweetness
modern brook
i think like ~ 3 cups of sugar
warm plinth
Yeah miracle whip is really sweet
oblique garnet
🤔I see, now do the people in usa put dressing in kebab pizza?
outer dew
kebab pizza is not normal in states
oblique garnet
Wait really?
undone sun
I've heard of it
outer dew
yeap
outer dew
i know what it is, but it's not a norm
oblique garnet
Best kebab pizza has, Kebab, dressing, fresh tomato slices, red onion and jalapenos
outer dew
the best thing out there is @warm plinth
tbh
one of the reasons why I like california
would be variety of food
shell bough
thank you for educating me
outer dew
so you don't end up hating the food
exotic spoke
I will mongoose the shit out of you
outer dew
i like trying foods but i always get burnt on fusion
always too pricy and trying too hard be special
oblique garnet
@warm plinth You know those big slabs of meat that is on a grill rotating thats kebab
warm plinth
I know what a kebab is, but I've never heard of the meat just called kebab lol
Oh nvm, that's totally not the same thing
But I know what you're talking about now
I've never had it before
oblique garnet
???
outer dew
kebab is more like a style of cooking vs meat
because for americans it's mostly a skewer of assortment of meat and veges grilled
warm plinth
Yeah, that's what I know as a kebab
outer dew
it doesn't really click as meat itself
oblique garnet
Theres like million different version of kebab yes
near ivy
@oblique garnet red onion jalapeno is the fucking meta and nobody believes me
oblique garnet
Ikr
oblique garnet
No
near ivy
stop speaking
oblique garnet
Pineapple doesnt belong to pizza
near ivy
Tofu doesnt belong on earth
sand egret
b
outer dew
jalapeno and pineapple is now a staple
warm plinth
I don't mind pineapple on pizza as long as it has something to counter the sweet
Like you gotta have some jalapeno or bacon on there to give it something besides the sweetness
outer dew
TBH
outer dew
I want to try durian pizza
near ivy
for jalapeno red onion
warm plinth
You guys are just making shit up now
warm plinth
I think google + Discord + WoW will make this laptop have a hernia
37 FPS peak on level 1 settings 😊
near ivy
adding 1 tab of google will put it over the edge
oblique garnet
Reindeer is also👌🏻 on pizza
oblique garnet
Leveling with normal dungeons only takes like 3 hours anyways from 110-120
oblique garnet
Sounds like git gud issues🤔
outer dew
takes me ~4 hours on TW with pugs, no looms or leggos
warm plinth
TW is like 1/3 of a level per dungeon with looms
Just from the completion XP that is
strong forum
Have the buffed dungeon XP or what, I remember you needed 6-7 dungeons for 1 level from 110-120
outer dew
TW exp was insane
it use to be
1 tw = 1 lvl
and gets to the point
where 2 tw = 1 lvl
warm plinth
Yeah TW was broken af before. It's still easily the fastest method if it's up though
strong forum
So how the fuck do you plan on doing 60 dungeons in 3hrs @oblique garnet 🤔
outer dew
use to just boost a toon and level during a weekend
warm plinth
ASsuming you can get insta queue
oblique garnet
3-4 hours with normal dungeons is what i did to guildies hunter
Dungeons took like 5 minutes
oblique garnet
Just get someone to blast through in 5 mins?🤔
strong forum
That wasn't the point of the convo im pretty sure
I paid once for a dungeon boost from 116-120
Cuz I couldn't be fuckin arsed to level for a 6th time
But that was when DH boosting was still a thing
warm plinth
It still is a thing; it's just a bit slower and you have to do it at 120 instead of 110 :p
oblique garnet
Idk how its slower
You que to random dungeon with tank
The tank blasts through it
outer dew
when the DPS hit like a wet noodle
warm plinth
Idk, I'm not an expert on the subject. Just know you can't do the old method anymore 🤷
strong forum
God that sounds horrible
outer dew
and make me want to rope myself spending 3 minutes on a boss
warm plinth
I'd rather level by islands than dungeons tbh if I had to choose
oblique garnet
The boss has like 1m hp
warm plinth
Unless it's TW of course
oblique garnet
So the tank can just blast it with trash
warm plinth
Yeah I mean, it's definitely easy to do that way
But you gotta be able to get someone to do it for you
And I'm perma-broke so I'm not paying someone for it lol
Kinda looking forward to week after next though
Got a boost waiting and I've never done WoD shit before so
Should be fun
Get to have people yell at me 🙃
outer dew
i'll yell at you bby
warm plinth
Oh speaking of that
I read a story that said this old lady (like 60something) gets paid by dudes to clean her house
She's a ||dominatrix||
near ivy
@oblique garnet wtf has happened to prot
oblique garnet
@near ivy its always like this
near ivy
i do not
warm plinth
Tbh
warm plinth
I mean, if you wanna talk about something prot-related, by all means
warm plinth
We always stop and talk about prot if people ask questions
near ivy
not complaining, just interested
warm plinth
That's exactly how we see it Star actually. We get to talk to the people we like without having to put up with the normal #off-topic lol
oblique garnet
People come and go and ask few questions its usually day time for eu when theres actual prot discussions otherwise its offtopic
warm plinth
Hence why EU always beats us
near ivy
when we do it in fury archi comes in and
outer dew
so that people actually answer
oblique garnet
People are surprisingly good at answering prot related questions but as soon as those are done its back to offtopic
outer dew
because nothing has changed for the past 3 patches
oblique garnet
Youre wrong about that
outer dew
if we talking about essences, sure
but skill priority, stats, azerite hasn't changed much
tips on how to deal with dungeons is mostly the same
oblique garnet
Yeah i mean prot is pretty much fully maxed out for this patch only things that change really are just some minor things on essences as to what people prefer
undone sun
do you need things
outer dew
hmmmmmmmmm
i mean
I don't need
i could probably last a week or two on dry/frozen stuff
i just won't be happy
exotic spoke
we missed a little krolusk
somehow split it from the stealth mob before first boss
so we ended fight and had .5% we needed and had to rush to get another .5%
potent anvil
Yeah, them baby krolusks can be sneaky like that sometimes.
exotic spoke
Tell me about it. Timed it by 5 sceonds instead of the minute.
took us a moment to realize we didnt finish it lol
ad 21 now
potent anvil
Good luck.
sick sentinel
Hello all. I'm looking for some tanking trinket advice. I have a 450 Rezans fury with a socket, 430 Urchin and now a 430 Edict just dropped. What would you use for tanking?
exotic spoke
depends on the fight / content. Either rezans and urchin or rezans and edicts
Edicts in M+ imo
sick sentinel
Id do both in m+
For super high keys
Im thinking the same. Always use the Rezan and switch out Edict and the Urchin depending on the content. In heroic EP the Urchin wasn't healing me that much. The most was 500k on Orgoza I believe. All the earlier bosses healing was around 300k.
exotic spoke
Used Howler or Gore crusted with Edicts this week and it felt really godo
I wouldn't use both defensives imo
stuck crown
exotic spoke
I waas talking about M+. In raid its punch card and gorecrusted
ionic fern
Big boy DPS.
sick sentinel
Maybe someone here is knowledgeable on this, but as long as one toon on my account has done all the necessary achievements to unlock a specific race another one can do the scenario quest, yes?
Like my Night Elf DH finished insurrection last night can I unlock it on any of my horde toons?
outer dew
@sick sentinel are you talking about unlocking KT. And then wanting to unlock ZT when you have the KT one?
sick sentinel
Nah.
outer dew
If you have a character that's appropriate you should be able to unlock, if you talking about Nighborne
sick sentinel
Thanks
outer dew
You still need a toon to do it
But I think you can use a class trial to do it
Dont remember
Since all the allied races locked behind quest still
@exotic spoke does your guild clear heroic?
outer dew
Do you guys allow pugs at all?
exotic spoke
I've been known to invite some people who may join potentially
outer dew
I see
exotic spoke
Im going to sleep - we can talk tomorrow about it
outer dew
Later
sick sentinel
Can confirm can't be a class trial
novel temple
Is the affix schedule out yet?
autumn pendant
undone sun
would also be more helpful to post the actual link 🙃
somber sky
hey guys... could i umm run
ionic fern
Yes.
ionic fern
ionic fern
But only advisable for ST DPS purposes.
somber sky
yeah i was think in raid instances you knwo?
ionic fern
Jeah - it's one of the higher DPS traits we can use for ST fights.
somber sky
i'm looking at my guild's prot and he runs 2 of that and typical stacking shield bash along with devastator
he does more dps than 4 of the dps on the team haha
ionic fern
Jeah, RF/Bfi/Devastator are the "go-to" for ST fights damage wise.
sick sentinel
If you have bfi you can do the shield build talent thing
sick sentinel
W/e its called
ionic fern
HR.
somber sky
ooh that's nice! i'll definitely get another azerite set just for single targets.
ionic fern
HR only pulls ahead in a certain fight length tho not always.
somber sky
i mean my dps'ers are like quite low on hte lower spectrum hwile the higher ones are insanely high
chilly brook
I'd say they're actually probably pretty high on the spectrum if they're getting beat by a tank in dps
somber sky
our healers can do well above 45k hps so damage mitigation is not the biggest worry for our tanks and like i'm trying to look for gear that can deal more damage while tank so i can help in running the instance faster
chilly brook
ionic fern
For m+?
somber sky
yeah
i'm trying to look for revenge and deafening crash stacks so i can aoe more but also peopleare saying i should focus on shield bash trait
chilly brook
It's literally in there
chilly brook
3x BoM 1x DC and then whatever defensive
somber sky
so you would heavily recommend me not to run my 2 DC traits? 😦
ionic fern
No point currently.
somber sky
awwh okay i'll reset my azerite
like the only other option i have is for revenge trait
chilly brook
Callous Reprisal?
somber sky
yeah that's the one that makes me take less damge right? 1.5%?
ionic fern
Engineer helm/Sea-Brawler's Greathelm - BoM/DC
Ashvane Warden's Cuirass - BoM/MS/OP(UF)
Kraken Shell Pauldrons - BoM/MS/UF
Is a nice setup.
somber sky
hmm i read in the guide that it stacks so i might as well
ionic fern
With the engi helm you get 2x BOm iirc but still get a DC + the engi traits.,
somber sky
omg i have cuirass and kraken shell
i'm sadly scribe and herba so i'm unable to get that helm.
i can look into the other greathelm tho
i also have a couple of bloodsports but i was gonna get rid of it anyway
ionic fern
Warhelm of Dread Waters can be used as well if you have that...RC(DC)/BoM/UF
somber sky
hmm that i don't have but i'll look into farming that as well.
somber sky
i have an option between arcan heart and bloodsoprt but i really don't want to run AH since i don't run raid
chilly brook
The biggest DPS increase you can possibly get is pressing your buttons tbh
somber sky
Pog that's some big brain theorycrafting
ionic fern
But it's true.
somber sky
;.;
chilly brook
It's very true
Don't waste globals and be efficient with your cooldowns and spend rage
somber sky
i press buttons but dps don't and healies are busy drinking water
oh i have a high avatar uptime :3 and i usually chainpull so i always have globals on efficient use
ionic fern
You can only influence your own play so focus on that.
You can also get a WA that tracks others CD's so you can see when your DPS'ers have their CD's up and do a big pull etc.
somber sky
kk i'll do that as well. is there any average "good uptime" for Ignore pain and shield block?
cus i know it's bad that i average around 36/24
but i don't stack them
ionic fern
In m+ - no, it depends on too many variables like pull sizes/your overall grp's DPS/routes/dungeons etc.
somber sky
hmm
ionic fern
Just keep SB up when you're actively tanking and line SW/LS up for when you don't have SB.
Spend extra rage on IP to avoid rage capping after using Revenge to DoT the enemies up.
chilly brook
Block when you are fighting mobs that hit you with physical attacks
Spend extra rage on IP
It's less complicated than people make it sound
somber sky
but like in dungeon like toS where there are quie alot of abilites do i need to focus sb?
since it only blocks melee
chilly brook
undone sun
not only melees
chilly brook
This is stuff that's answered in #268491842637660160 that link is a list of blockable spells etc.
somber sky
oh okay
somber sky
sorry i'm repeating redundant data
oh i mean of course in the eye room there's a lot of it but like. how about UR. abilities there too right? or KR first room?
i'm asking so that i learn. i hope i don't sound mean 😦
chilly brook
Still mostly melee
ionic fern
Abilities should get interrupted
somber sky
yeah puggies arent' the smartest peopel
ionic fern
KR first boss room is good example.
If the caster doesn't get interrupted you WILL fall over. If he gets interrupted the room is a joke.
chilly brook
don't get hit xD
ionic fern
^
somber sky
:C
ionic fern
Or just stand at one place and don't move at all - the tornadoes won't hit you if positioned correctly.
somber sky
so like in the center? or away from the zone completely? i have range dps with me usually
chilly brook
Then avoid
chilly brook
lol
ionic fern
Jeah, total bullies.
somber sky
i mean they gotta do big dicc dps
chilly brook
I'd like to think prot is one of the most helpful discords
somber sky
my guild's fury warrir was realm's best warrir but he was the biggest dicc socially. super super harsh xD
can i 
?
undone sun
offensively, yes
somber sky
gives me dps but what is dps in aoe in st right? changes drastically depending on target numbers
yeah that's what i was thinking
and idk what i was thinking
but i overwrote my overclocking card with trajectory analysis
i'm so stupid
sick sentinel
I am never not hit by tornadoes
exotic rapids
Hi there, is there a working spell reflect tracker?
the one linked in the FAQ seems not to be working any longer
sick sentinel
It's not?
If it isn't, ping marok in #ui-addons-manager and he'll come around fixing it
Probably
exotic rapids
it doenst show up for me and some comments are reporting the same thing
or ist there some trick setting it up?
upper spoke
How much reputation to go from neutral with a faction (like the Klaxxi) to exalted? I'm thinking about exchanging TW badges for commendations so I can buy that amber scorpion mount.
Figure active channel with smart people. Someone probably knows
strong forum
There should be a guide on wowhead for that
I remember smth about the number of 100, but I'm not certain
jade socket
It’s 42k but at revered you can buy an item for double rep
upper spoke
Hm that is a lot of badges
jade socket
300 rep
jade socket
You can buy them on alts as well and mail them to a character
So you can do the quest that takes one dungeon on alts and get a quick 500
upper spoke
yah I did
lost bay
got a 440 dodge card from mechagon today, surely it'll never compete with overclock, right?
brittle owl
neither of those compete with other similar ilvl trinkets for defensive purposes and neither are cyclo blast
upper spoke
Anyone use a WA for avatar from visions of perfection?
or how do you know when it's active?
lunar bramble
Just track the buff from avatar
Visions doesn't have a seperate buff
Just procs avatar w it h a shorter timer
In m+ should I be usin all my rage on ignore pain?
upper spoke
Yeah my buffs just appear in the top right. I never notice when it's active
no
shield block first, extra to ignore pain. You'll rarely face mobs that deal more magical damage than physical, and mitigating magical is where IP shines
marble cipher
@upper spoke I got a massive group of "active" aura's which I use for all my chars, it's in the middle of my ui, right underneath my char, so I can always see what is active
That list also includes active externals on me, so I can see when I get those
(like bark and sac and stuff)
lunar bramble
Ye what shini said.. Get a wa to track when the buff is active, same for sheild block etc
upper spoke
shinigami that sounds great
can you easily link me that? Or should I just try to search wago
marble cipher
I'm not home atm, but if you pm me I'll send it to you tonight.
Though, it's not that hard to do it yourself, as it's the easiest form of wa you can get
lunar bramble
Weak auras templates would probably suit. You until you find someyhing more suited to what you're after
marble cipher
Make a dynamic group, have it "grow" horizontally, add an aura WA to it (icon based), there, done.
lunar bramble
Just create new from template in the weak auras default. Screen
marble cipher
From then on, you can just duplicate that aura you made, and change the "buff" it has to track
Oh, that exists too?
Nice, you can do that then 😄
lunar bramble
Yeah for basic stuff like buff tracking etc just to get you a quick fix until you find out how much more customised you want it
Is there anyway to disable the vocal ques from warrior? I've just rolled one from DH and monk, it was maghar but I had to race change it cuz of how annoying the shouting vocals are when they're goigg off every 5 seconds
And disabling dialogue doesn't help either
potent anvil
@upper spoke You can track when a Vision Avatar procs with a WA. You need to make a WA that scans the combat log for Strive for Perfection heal. Then make whatever indicator you want. I have mine play a sound. This assumes you have at least r2 of VoP, or whatever rank is needed to get the heal.
Similarly, this works for lucid heal too.
upper spoke
hmm very coool ty
that sounds perfect
I'd find it much easier to import something like that, rather than attempt to design one ;p
potent anvil
@upper spoke https://pastebin.com/Ua0sTukh This is the one I made. You can change the sound file under the 'Actions' tab to your liking.
sand egret
but only if you change the sound to the Rick Flair Woo
warm plinth
Is that so Blade
potent anvil
Did you snap saurids?
exotic spoke
No, that’s from standing on the pillars yeah?
Also - I like that they changed your name
oblique garnet
🙂
potent anvil
Maybe I get another 450+ from cache today with hole.
oblique garnet
Yeah something like that sure
warm plinth
Idk if I’d call them pillars. It’s the little outcroppings on the bridge
oblique garnet
^
oblique garnet
Also payback of what
warm plinth
Suuuuuure
exotic spoke
The thyme I made all the puns
potent anvil
Shameless plug, but snap 15 saurids. It's fun
https://youtu.be/XxUPFyo0YAc?t=110
oblique garnet
😑
warm plinth
But did you time it?
potent anvil
Yeah
potent anvil
Because of pulls like those, I kinda grew on Undying gift as a major, tbh.
exotic spoke
We did not time the 21
potent anvil
Yeah, should be listed. Everything is public/viewable.
warm plinth
Cool
oblique garnet
keeping prot m+ content alive
sick sentinel
heyo i've played fury warrior for my entire time on wow and i wanna try prot but i dont rlly know how to get a shield and 1 hand
exotic spoke
I despise Rezan so much
oblique garnet
@sick sentinel you can buy 370 shield and weapon from auction house or you can also run m+ as fury and have prot lootspec for shields and 1 handers
exotic spoke
That bleed fucking hurtsa
potent anvil
Rezan hurts, even on fort. The higher you go up, the more prepared you need to be with the bleed/debuff.
exotic spoke
And even running back and forth he still will pick me up and chew on me
sick sentinel
ooh ty how to i change lootspec
potent anvil
On tyran, I even use chain of suffering as one of my trinkets. An extra sac helps.
exotic spoke
I can see that. I was running edicts and after rezan swapped to magic
sick sentinel
@oblique garnet
exotic spoke
Rdruid melded the chase off of me once
potent anvil
I need to get an edict's. Even a heroic one, so hopefully I can get one in today's reset.
exotic spoke
GL i like it for m+ more than urchin - the versatility of the trinket is nice
exotic spoke
Good luck on your weekly chests guys
tawny maple
exotic spoke
Probably not - it is the chest of disappoint for a reason
strong forum
Can't wait, haven't gotten a useful piece since week 1 of s3
exotic spoke
I just want a decent trinket or ring
sand egret
Me too Nom, started off strong with a 445 weapon pull...jack shit since.
exotic spoke
I started off with shit and for the most part it’s been shit all along
Got a socketed 445 bracer last week - so I gained a socket
warm plinth
Nothing wrong with a socket! Especially on a low budget slot
exotic spoke
I know - I’m just saying that’s all I’ve gotten as an upgrade
2 spore pods this season 😦
warm plinth
That's sad
exotic spoke
Yeah it is
oblique garnet
@potent anvil do i open my cache as prot or fury?🤔 Do i want to risk a 455 sporepods
warm plinth
I have a bandages on my war right now on alliance side
exotic spoke
Fury late get that 459 two hander
potent anvil
I'm probably gonna stay fury to bank on the 450 geti with a hole. I do need 440+ weapon and shield for prot though.
exotic spoke
450*
oblique garnet
450 getikku with a socket and every single fury warrior will cry
exotic spoke
I need 445 + one hander but I’ll get it eventually from mythic. Maybe tonight even
strong forum
Ye been looting as arms for like 4 weeks now
lethal plaza
is there an updated residuum chart for key levels completed?
strong forum
Ye, ever since ptr
lethal plaza
alright, wowhead?
strong forum
Yup
sick sentinel
@lethal plaza
lethal plaza
oh wow, thx
junior ivy
Hi
old night
oblique garnet
yes
oblique garnet
Cyka blast and gore because i dont have inkpod or coral
junior ivy
We never do anything in my database class
I'm so bored
Teacher just talking about milk
sick sentinel
lmao
junior ivy
He said we could leave. So far hes let us leave st least 30 mins early every time
exotic spoke
Hi catfriend
sand egret
prob should just skim someone's notes instead of sitting through the whole thing
exotic spoke
Can we now call cyclo “cyka blast”
sand egret
you'll only retain like 2% if you're bored
exotic spoke
Also, I run the same trinkets Late does for ashvane progression
junior ivy
I'm just outside playin pokemon go now lol
exotic spoke
Lol. Is it a generic database class or are you going to program in a specific language?
undone sun
😂
exotic spoke
I mean NoSQL, SQL, etc thyme.
There are differences
junior ivy
Its generic databases but we will be learning SQL in it
exotic spoke
And I’ve had classes specifically on those and a generic entry level one
junior ivy
We are using access right now
exotic spoke
Never used much access. SQLs fun imo
junior ivy
I'm gonna go for a walk to university next door to play more pokemon lol
exotic spoke
Have fun
opaque flax
keep SQL in #vanilla-discussion plz
exotic spoke
Lol Lozy
weary thorn
there an issue with blizzard launcher right now? Can't seem to reconnect
sick sentinel
thoughts on CnS on necrotic week
exotic spoke
It’s been a bit but sure. And it’s different depending on if it’s Oracle or whatnot.
But sure I’ll try to help
I can’t access the phone app Major
junior ivy
We cant use Oracle the school is too cheap apparently lol
exotic spoke
@sick sentinel necrotic isn’t bad for prot - i wouldn’t really care about the root from thunder clap
weary thorn
Alrighty
sick sentinel
I know it isn't bad I didn't ask that though
exotic spoke
I understand. I was providing a backdrop for my answer of “I wouldn’t care about the root from thunderclap”
So, I’d go and get something more valuable / useful
heavy belfry
stoneform 😄
exotic spoke
Since I assume you were asking about it as a major
exotic spoke
If it’s a minor then yes - pretty much always yes
sick sentinel
and not get melee hit at all
exotic spoke
If you’re not getting hit your melee will
willow scarab
The root don't apply if a slow stronger than thunder clap is already applied
exotic spoke
CnS minor is good. CnS major is not worth
exotic spoke
If they are rooted and you’re out of melee range they attack other players - last I recall
willow scarab
That is correct
same thing applies to stuff like shield bash in AD when you're kiting
Even with full aggro they'll still hit nearby players
exotic spoke
So rooting them in place and being out of melee range means they’ll turn and instagib your melee
Even if it’s just a second
potent anvil
Pretty sure that's an old mechanic. They do not melee at near targets when rooted. Their abilities, however, will attempt to target the nearest player. Shadow slash, shield bash, venomfang strike, etc.
Otherwise, things like rooted spotter (via rdruid) would melee anyone near which isn't the case if you don't have aggro. I've used Conflict major and have not experienced actual melee hits happening even with an rdruid staying in to dps as I am away.
exotic spoke
Therooted spotter has murdered people who got to close in my groups des
warm plinth
Yeah they only melee the highest aggro target. But since you're not really going out of your way to hold threat it's very possible the healer or a DPS has aggro on it
potent anvil
With you having full aggro? I track my threat/aggro target, and I never seen it actually hit anyone. But then again no one has ever complained to me about it. I'm certain thunderstruck rooted mobs don't melee anyone. I've done it before in like WCM and UR and no one got hit unless it was a special ability.
warm plinth
Highest aggro target period* not closest high aggro
exotic spoke
It’s been a while - we don’t typically do a lot of sieges.
To give definitive information I’d have to test it - but I’m pretty sure yes - even with full Aggro
potent anvil
I know in classic, rooted mobs attempt to melee anyone. I don't know when it has changed, but I don't think that particular behavior exists anymore. I will test again and record it.
exotic spoke
I don’t typically run CNS as a major
I’d be curious if there’s a difference between the duration of the roots too
@potent anvil maybe easiest to test if you get a Druid to root a mob after hitting it a bit and you walk by it
sand egret
I'm going to run tests tonight on this, as I'm pretty sure it's type-of-attack based
it's a weird ai logic that im curious about
junior ivy
Omg my class has a discord server now lol
There's only like 20 of us
I dunno how I feel about this
Ofc I joined it
exotic spoke
It’ll be fine catfriend
junior ivy
Yup haha
sand egret
ill always have my insane t9 skills to hold on to...
strong forum
Brehs Im to stoopid to find K values for 8.2
Aka to stoopid to use Google
Help a brother out
near ivy
why use google when you can use discords search function
warm plinth
near ivy
give a man a fish...
warm plinth
If I thought Nome would learn it I would teach him
sand egret
near ivy
the logic being you cant teach him to fish so you are just gonna keep giving him them?
near ivy
it really isnt
warm plinth
I literally typed "k value"
And scrolled down a bit
The logic being that this isn't life; it's discord
near ivy
warm plinth
And 100 people come in here every day that can't search shit on their own
warm plinth
And we all answer them
near ivy
that took me 15 seconds and that included going to go get my phone
sand egret
On the midnight train, going wheeereeeeeverrrr!
strong forum
Math things
near ivy
strong forum
Cuz my cotank wants to do some napkin math
near ivy
most things that are "values" are related to math
strong forum
And didn't know about k value
undone sun
👀
sick sentinel
I'm being asked to be a 3rd tank on Mythic Orgoza. What's the purpose in having a 3rd tank? Is it just easier to have 3 tanks rotating the boss and adds?
near ivy
k value is talking about fire resistance
@sick sentinel makes tank organisation MUCH easier
junior ivy
Omfg everyone in my class is sharing WoW usernames now, comparing toons and adding each other to bnet
😂
strong forum
@sick sentinel add tank
undone sun
Lol
near ivy
./ actually possible
sick sentinel
Will I still tank the boss for stacks or nope?
near ivy
no
warm plinth
And you're not even subbed cat
near ivy
only the adds
strong forum
You just tank adds close to boss, never on the swirly
junior ivy
I know lol
strong forum
Add tank is literally just brain afk add killing
sick sentinel
I got it. It just makes the whole thing easier since they spawn fasster on mythic?
strong forum
Yes
sick sentinel
Cool. Ty for the info.
strong forum
Your whole purpose is to keep adds together
sick sentinel
Same deal for soaking pools? Just pop cd's or will I need externals?
strong forum
And let the other tanks deal with everything else
sick sentinel
near ivy
you dont soak pools
strong forum
And you need to help out the currently soaking tank
near ivy
the only third tank that can do that is prot pala
strong forum
Then you will need shieldwall
warm plinth
If you really want to make it easier to look up k values
sick sentinel
So I kill adds and let the boss tank soak due to stacks?
warm plinth
Just do has:image k value
near ivy
because the boss tank debuff actually reduces the amount of damage you take
warm plinth
And BOOM
strong forum
Yes remi
near ivy
so that you can actually soak the pools without dying
undone sun
Full circle
sick sentinel
Thanks a bunch for the info. I really appreciate it.
near ivy
@sick sentinel do you have BM hunters in your raid?
undone sun
😡
sick sentinel
We should have one tonight. I'm not sure. Why?
strong forum
@strong forum there you go, mongol
near ivy
beast cleave only works if you position adds correctly
(somebody correct me if im wrong)
sick sentinel
If I recall correctly they want me to tank adds close enough for the cleave.
near ivy
ofc you tank close enough for cleave
otherwise they dont die
@strong forum thats never an issue tbh
sick sentinel
There's a sweet spot though, right? MEaning they cant be too close.
near ivy
its specifically the BM hunter pet that has issues
if they are too close to boss they take 50% less damage
and deal more
sick sentinel
Yep. Just making sure. Thx again. Ill check out that videeo
near ivy
if they are too far, or in the wrong position in comparison to the hunters pet, they cant be cleaved
glass pine
Hey guys. So what's the best way to generate threat when pulling multiple mobs. My party got into a huge argument last night over how i was keeping aggro. Charge/TC swap to defensive or is it better to run up and demoralizing shout? (Level 24 prot warrior)
near ivy
glass pine
ty
sick sentinel
Thank you
My prot warrior has very good gear luck so I might be playing him more it seems.
The second parse im assuming the adds are too far away?
near ivy
the 2nd one beast cleave did double the damage it was before
this is our first two nights of prog
outer dew
Not every day do you see a hunter log in prot
sick sentinel
I appreciate the tips 🙂
frigid heart
do you guys rotate the same direction every time for zaqul tentacles or do you actually use brain to dodge in the shortest route
warm plinth
Idk, did you resub yet?
outer dew
😉
exotic spoke
I assume you mean mythic - and if so I can’t help you as I’m still working on ashvane. @frigid heart @cold crater
outer dew
Yea
warm plinth
😮
outer dew
Yeeted a 10 last night
exotic spoke
Whatcha doing tomorrow night Tofu
outer dew
True monster
warm plinth
I won't be around really until Friday; I'm out of town for work so all I can really do is level my alt on my work laptop
outer dew
Depends on time
outer dew
Oh, should be free
warm plinth
And I may have keys to do with my normal group on Horde too so idk 😬
exotic spoke
I’ll get your realid when I get home and give it to the person running it since I’ll be late to our offnight heroic run
warm plinth
RIP
exotic spoke
RIP
warm plinth
tfw you were almost gonna bail on class
warm plinth
But then decided real life was important
outer dew
Just not go
warm plinth
Nah you should go lol
outer dew
But
A heroic raid where I dont wanna kill myself in pugs
That's fair
Esp for a 410 ilvl toon
How'd rare become fair
exotic spoke
I don’t promise completion - well definitely not kill azshara and maybe not zaqul - just because we save those for quick kill on Thursday for the people who can’t be there on an offnight
outer dew
Tbh, any amount of kills is always nice
Meh
but truly betrayed from ghash
tells me he'll do shit with me when i resub
tells me got horde keys
pepehands
warm plinth
What days are you gonna be on? We can make stuff happen
strong forum
I used cof major + VoP minor @cold crater
To push ST since I'm not add tank and we didn't need add dmg
cold crater
kk
strong forum
Null minor didn't seem as useful since it would spread to adds resulting in being less useful than cdr on Avatar imo
lunar jackal
hey guys is tradewinds a good trait?
strong forum
It's decent
lunar jackal
i mean the other choice is bloodsport
strong forum
Then it's better
outer dew
i'll be available the whole weekend
i mean
from what perspectiver
you don't exactly pump faster
well harder
with bloodsport
strong forum
Trade winds is what, 1200 mastery?
And given we kind of want to build offensively it's basically a less reliable BoM
And bloodsport being one the less useful side of traits
willow scarab
I would take BS for orgozoa and azshara prog, tradewinds all other scenarios
warm plinth
lol
willow scarab
I wanted my polished game back with all the qol updates
doing classic just kinda made me realize that it wasn't even good the first time I did it, I was just 10 so I thought it was good
willow scarab
Yeah I did
I got a lock to 45 outside of uni/work/raid/real life commitments
boring
outer dew
that's because
warm plinth
Lol I feel that Fum
willow scarab
and like
i already got this and full t3
so there's nothing new in classic for me
exotic spoke
I was bidding up the last piece I need for my T3 but I refused to pay over 10 times what I paid for the shoulders for the belt.
willow scarab
belt was 10k for me and shoulders 120k
definitely spent 600 on g loves and 700 on helm
exotic spoke
We had two shoulders back to back. I paid 25k on the second shoulder. Person the day ahead of me paid 250k
Friend I know paid 2.5m in legion.
I stopped bidding at 250k for the belt
warm plinth
Sheesh
willow scarab
imo the whole set for under 5m is a steal
so if it's your last piece just go nuts
i'd spent 200k for 5/8 of the set so i just bid until i won on the rest
willow scarab
oh i used tokens to get my gold onto dead servers