So saying that it’s not possible to get stuck is asinine
#protection
chilly brook
hasty nova
you just need to go to a server that has a lot of people, and work on making yourself a better tank
honest frigate
Most guilds don’t recruit tanks it’s an unfortunate fact of the game and many recruit from the inside. Best chance to get into a cutting edge guild imo is network through m+ since it’s a more accessible part of the game
chilly brook
I’m on Tich bruh it’s a huge server
willow scarab
I agree m+ is a good way in
limpid pawn
99 parse by definition is not easy
willow scarab
it also helps you meet people
limpid pawn
you understand what the parse means right?
rigid yarrow
So... Theorycrafting question totally off topic of the current convo here. Are there ANY circumstances in which I should prioritize Ignore Pain over Shield Block? One of my friends is trying to "prove" to me that dumping ALL Rage into IP is better in all situations, and I'm highly doubting that.
willow scarab
it's not competitive at all
the majority of parses are warriors not even trying to parse
the orange logs are there for the taking
hasty nova
@rigid yarrow absolutely not, SB is warrior number one midigation
willow scarab
Spend rage on IP instead of SB when you're taking magic damage or have excess rage
limpid pawn
what the heck?
willow scarab
Unblockable damage / magic damage *
hasty nova
unless you are in situations where you are taking almsot pure magic
chilly brook
@rigid yarrow no
limpid pawn
do you hear this guy
chilly brook
Unless you can’t block
hasty nova
lol "shield block always besides time you can't shield block
chilly brook
Block is always better in situations where it can be blocked
honest frigate
Parses are not relevant to what makes a good mythic raider. They show the ability to press your buttons and cheese encounters. What’s relevant is how well does someone handle a mechanic, how consistent is someone in handling mechanics, and how effective are they in group dynamics
willow scarab
When you're going for a prot 99 you're competing with people who don't cast revenge, barely use avatar and don't use unbridled fury pots
willow scarab
It's not competitive
willow scarab
Go look at a 50 log compared to a 99
exotic spoke
@rigid yarrow fights like radiance of azshata for the adds
Unblockable damage
willow scarab
the 50 is just bad play like that's it
honest frigate
There’s a lot more to it than just that but you need to be focused less on parses and more on the general gameplay and working with your guildiws/those around you
willow scarab
like missed globals and all
Tank logs are the least competitive of all and if you want 99s they're not a big task to get
rigid yarrow
So SB always unless SB is useless or SB is still on CD, is what I'm hearing XD
hasty nova
well man, thats the thing about the game. and honestly it translates to every part of life too. BETTER YOURSELF FIRST. When you spend so much time making the grass in your own yard green that you don't notice other people's yard. you will notice that those problems you had about finding groups, are not problems anymore.
chilly brook
Why are 50 parses even in the conversation?
No one in here was talking about having bad parses
willow scarab
I'm talking about how easy it is to get a 99
exotic spoke
@limpid pawn I’ll say this then I’m leaving it dead and not responding any more
Imo you’re drawing a false comparison because this is a game that people play for fun. there is skill involved and it is no one else’s responsibility to help out a struggling player
That is different than a real life situation and I think if you’re honest with yourself you’ll agree. Because a game isn’t life or death - unlike real life
willow scarab
i don't have them because i'm good
there is no competition, just don't waste globals and press avatar on CD
that's it
honest frigate
@rigid yarrow yes generally SB should be prioritized when tanking mobs that primarily melee or have attacks you can block, whereas IP is generally better served to be prioritized in high magic encounters I.E, shadow of zul or OT zaqul
empty spire
tbh its strange, many guilds ive been in have different opinions when recruiting tanks
some want big healing/mitigation logs,m some want big damage
rigid yarrow
yeah, my guild is oversaturated with tanks, so I'm exclusively World Content and Dungeons 😛
warm plinth
Healing/mitigation logs 🤔
willow scarab
You want to have logs to show that you can do hybrid, full healing and full offensive
If you cover every base you're a prime applicant
empty spire
I mean as warrior I feel like you have to sacrifice so much rage to IP if you want to healing log
chilly brook
I don’t really think you can say 99s are ez, purple parsing sure
empty spire
so youll only get like a 90 log on damage
hasty nova
@rigid yarrow I would go to weakauras - addons, grab a shield block uptime WA. and practice making sure it is ALWAYS active while you are activly tanking a mob or boss. and fill in gaps with IP.
willow scarab
Look at a 90-95 log comapred to a 99
it's still them just not pressing buttons often enough or on cd
empty spire
like I rarely do much damage on progression
willow scarab
the only competitive part of prot warrior logs is the top 10
empty spire
but on reclear i go like crucible/barrier
limpid pawn
ok fumi
hasty nova
once you master that you can focus on when to take one over the other, because if your like me when i first started getting better, more technical, I didn't realize how often I didn't have SB up.
limpid pawn
so 10 people are the only "good players"
willow scarab
i didn't say that
i said the only competitive prot warrior logs are top 10
and that 99s are just by pressing buttons on cd
honest frigate
Parsing 99’s as a warrior is gated this tier largely behind Null barrier R3, Cyclo blast, R3 CoF, neck level, azerite availability etc
empty spire
I mean theres a few prots on the top 10 that sculpt pulls
chilly brook
I mean like how you gonna parse 99 when you pulling the aggro off your cotank tho?
limpid pawn
lol
exotic spoke
@willow scarab I agree with what @weary thorn said. It’s pointless to continue this conversation
limpid pawn
griff, this guy is completely out of touch with reality
willow scarab
My thoughts got me the spot that i'm in
your thoughts got you the guild you're in
I guess that's all there really is to it
honest frigate
I think that’s a pretty mean way of looking at it Fum
willow scarab
He just called me out of touch with reality though
honest frigate
Both sides should take a step back and listen to each other
exotic spoke
the truth hurts sometimes
chilly brook
I think people are too willing to automatically jump to conclusions and not see the nuance
willow scarab
I'm not obliged to be nice to people, I've said what works and how simple it is
exotic spoke
But it’s honestly pointless to continue the conversation - that’s directed at people on both sides of the conversation
rigid yarrow
@hasty nova what's your opinion of the HeroRotation addon?
hasty nova
hmm let me look that up right quick is that a WA? or actuall independant addon
rigid yarrow
independent addon very similar to WA
chilly brook
Real talk though (this isn’t to continue anything) I actually hated one of my cotanks in legion because he would mess up my parses cuz he couldn’t hold aggro
honest frigate
The fact of the matter is that parses are often gated behind time spent outside of raid, and then dictated by how well you cheese the encounter in raid. On the other side, it’s important to realize that parsing isn’t everything and that the top 10 warrior logs don’t indicate best warriors. There’s a lot more to an applicant than parses and taking the time to focus on those things is much more important
hasty nova
rigid yarrow
It puts a box next to the mid-screen health bar that tells you what to cast when, using SimC APLs
hasty nova
i use these two weak auras
very small minimal screen and helps A LOT
i'm not familiar with the one you asked about so i couldn't give an honest opinion on it sorry
but differnt things work for different players
exotic spoke
I should get some WA. But ehhhhh
hasty nova
what you SHOULD do however, is log yourself in the next raid or dungon you do.
exotic spoke
I’ll forgot by the time I’m home in 5 hours
hasty nova
and see what your UPTIME for block is
willow scarab
Are yo utalking about one of those addons that tells you the rotation
hasty nova
that would be a good way to gauge if that method is working for you or not
chilly brook
I like to maximize my damage output, but I also prioritize not taking a ton of damage @honest frigate
exotic spoke
But how do your healers parse then?
hasty nova
i generally dislike addons that "circle" the butotn i should press.
chilly brook
By healing the idiots in the fire @exotic spoke
exotic spoke
Like, when they get bored and want to parse I know it means I should go super offensive
willow scarab
Good healer logs come from standing in mechanics on purpose
exotic spoke
Like - zero survivability traits/ trinkets / talents
willow scarab
and using less healers
honest frigate
Lol when healers want to parse it literally does not mean you go super offensive it means you stand in fire
willow scarab
and high leech
chilly brook
Oof
willow scarab
rip
Think like this right
ashvane is 3 healers
imagine... 2 healing
if you actually manage to kill the boss you're getting 2 rank 1s
honest frigate
Tank trinkets and azerite traits largely don’t matter for prot warrior in raid and all of the content can be completed with a pure offensive set up 🤷🏻♂️
exotic spoke
I mean - yeah you right
chilly brook
I’m actually just considering becoming a healer
willow scarab
It's like that hpally who blasted rank 1 in BoD
chilly brook
Would be way easier to get a slot
willow scarab
when they discovered glimmer and he solo healed the first boss
rigid yarrow
HeroRotation is ALMOST like spellflash, except it doesn't highlight the ability on your ABs, it just shows you the ability icon next to the health bar. GCD abilities in the big box and anything off GCD in the smaller boxes right above it.
chilly brook
Holy pally here we come! 🙃
willow scarab
Using a rotationhelper is a bad idea and you'll do significantly better just learning how to play the class without one
chilly brook
Break out my original character
exotic spoke
It’s the same reasoning to how I got a rank 1 healing parse in legion
If you’re supposed to two tank the fight and I solo tank it cause the other one dies - as long as I can tank both bosses and not die I Winn
willow scarab
Rotationhelpers to me feel like 1 step away from botting
Like... you're almost not even playing the game
chilly brook
Solo tanking felhounds 🙃
hasty nova
Well, getting a spot as a tank is certainly more demanding than a healer. if there is 10 raids, there would only be 20 spots for a tank, where there could be either 40 or 50 healer spots
chilly brook
Blood DK felhounds was 😂
willow scarab
you're really salty about not being able to get 99s aren't you
just press your buttons properly
limpid pawn
it's called - limited spots fumeiyo
willow scarab
usurp
exotic spoke
Jesus ducking Christ. Let this fucking drop
analog swift
yo
as an aside
i love this discord so much
half hte people in here don't even play prot war any more
but we still argue about nothing
anyway
willow scarab
That's the most annoying part
analog swift
LEECH
willow scarab
AT least let me argue with prot warrior players
exotic spoke
@chilly brook Yeah boy! I did 1.5M HPS as a prot warrior solo tanking the hounds
hasty nova
oh come off it, @limpid pawn I understand why you are resistant to what fume is saying
but think about it this way, when i came to this discord i was 1.5k raider.io and 2/9M BoD. @willow scarab is actually specfically the person who helped me with a few tips
those tips brought my sb uptime WAY up, and my damg WAY WAY up.
now i'm 2.2k raider.io and in a different, better guild that is 4/8M EP.
so while i understand why you are frustrated, don't be petty to someone who has helped a shit ton of ppl on here for no reward
even if he is being kinda a dick right now, (still love you fume)
willow scarab
I'm a dick all the time
chilly brook
Some of us still do play prot, just not as much as we used to
rigid yarrow
Well if you think of Raids as a movie, and rotationhelpers as a script, most of the best performances in history were way off-script. You just have to know when to ignore the helper and panic-smash your defensive CDs lol
hasty nova
or be like @analog swift and work meta magic
willow scarab
There are minor things that your rotation helper won't help with
exotic spoke
Gus, you 2.2 current season? Grats
willow scarab
for example
If a boss casts an 8 second cast and your SB expired - the helper will tell you to apply another SB
chilly brook
I just really wouldn’t even worry about a rotation helper
hasty nova
but also remember that tanks are REQUIRED to be good af. there are only 2 tanks sometimes 3 in a raid. if you are not ABOVE average (OF THE GROUP YOU ARE TRYING TO GET IN, NOT the population of wow as a whole) as a tank you will have more trouble
willow scarab
but you can hold it for 8 seconds and bank up an entire charge
empty spire
I mean my guild are asking me to reroll Brewmaster
chilly brook
Prot “rotation” is really simple
analog swift
<3, this chat is my favorite thing to do when waiting for my case to be called
@empty spire unless you need the mystic touch debuff or are stuck on radiance that's dumb
chilly brook
You in court?
willow scarab
A lot of guilds want BrM
chilly brook
What did you do?
analog swift
or court
willow scarab
they're good in this raid and always good for prgo
oblique garnet
court is fine for warrior
analog swift
OH i'm a lawyer lol I thought you meant queen's court
chilly brook
Ahhhh
empty spire
well we have no monk
willow scarab
court is sort of okay for warrior
analog swift
yeah same why I went BrM
empty spire
and 2 monks is generally better than not 2 monks on prog
willow scarab
just don't solo tank the zealous erruption during no heal phase
chilly brook
When I said court I meant real life court not in game
analog swift
hahahahahahah
hasty nova
god damnit i missed another rare enemies in mechagon. i can't handle you guys anymore lmao. i gotta go play wow. good luck to all of you
analog swift
yeah Brew is the best tank and MW is meh and WW is mega mehhhh
hasty nova
see ya next time.
willow scarab
yeah it's 5am i should get a few hours sleep before this becomes an all nighter
exotic spoke
@hasty nova fine - dontnanswer me. I’m a sad panda
analog swift
WWW is so much fun
willow scarab
enjoy skyhjold
chilly brook
MW hasn’t been the same since they took away chi
exotic spoke
I SEE HOW IT IS @hasty nova
brisk ferry
they posted in the WW section for wind-announce
hasty nova
@exotic spoke lmao riki LET ME LEAVE PEACEFULLY.
chilly brook
No
exotic spoke
2200 current season?
hasty nova
also i'm 1.5 to 2.2 last season. this season i'm 1.8 atm
chilly brook
I kinda wanna run a resto shaman
hasty nova
yeah not enough time lately, been slacking I think i'll get back up there when i can find more time
chilly brook
I feel like they’re about to be nutty
hasty nova
but everyone says taht am i right ? 🙂
exotic spoke
Like literal aids. We had to pick between that or siege. In hindsight I’m not sure we picked correctly
analog swift
yeah
they shouldn't have nerfed % AND the canons
I hated the canons before but now there's just sooo much %
and you can't really pull mongo with the current layout
exotic spoke
Plus the emissary placement is aids
red wedge
My group currently has 2 sieges and 3 shrines to run ;p
exotic spoke
What levels?
red wedge
a 17 and an 18 siege, and the shrines are all 17
exotic spoke
Also, UR was nice this week. Shrine wasn’t bad. Missed shrine by a few seconds when our rdruid died on last boss and we couldn’t res him since he ended up in shadow shit
strong forum
TD is big gay now
exotic spoke
I’d do shrine - it wasn’t bad at all
strong forum
The nerd to cannons was too big
red wedge
UR is one of my favorite dungeons in general, so I never have problems running that.
we did a 16 shrine already, and ya. Not bad at all
strong forum
At this point you waste more time to try get maximum use out of them as if you were to just not use em at all
red wedge
Yea.. I never liked TD, really. Since the changes I try the following: kill the first 4 mobs by the first cannon, use the first cannon to kill the far pack, then try to double up on the 2nd pack with the 2nd cannon.. Group kills whatever is left. Then skip everything after barrel boss...
strong forum
The most annoying part is
Walls
Walls don't exist in TD
I've had 2 runs where I pulled packs through the wall with Tclap
Back to back
Just because this dungeon is retarded
brisk ferry
it's especially bad with any of the reflecting emissaries
pull through walls, ceilings, floors
everything
strong forum
It's disgusting
Like how can this fly
Just make normal fucking walls
How hard can it be
Or fucking Dh eyebeaming through wall
Or we/
sand egret
honestly, walls are kinda hard
brisk ferry
pretty soft according to Nome
really though the dungeon walls have been pretty shit all of BFA, but that new emissary has definitely made it worse
sick sentinel
with never surender and 3 BS traits at 1% health it blocks 140k damage for me
oblique garnet
😡
exotic spoke
Why the fuck would you use NS
sick sentinel
am i not allowed to test things?
sick sentinel
yeah youre right ill take indomitable
exotic spoke
Lol
exotic spoke
Cause Indom is soooooo good
sick sentinel
im taking indom just to piss other warriors off
exotic spoke
Cause you think gladiator still exists
This just in - it’s dead
candid path
Current Prot is a better DPS than Glad ever was.
exotic spoke
It doesn’t exist because it’s not a dps spec
If you want to dps as rank that’s fine - but don’t expect to be invited as a dps spot and stay when they see you’re doing sub par dps numbers
candid path
If only M+ had existed in WoD, maybe it'd have been well-received.
strong forum
^
exotic spoke
I’d be embarrassed if I thought it was still good enough to do it without causing problems for the group
sick sentinel
i think ur just jealous
candid path
I mean, obviously Prot's only competitive in M+
exotic spoke
Jealous? Ha! I do the dps you do and actually tank the boss
frigid heart
how bad is prot war on azshara, is it worth juicing up a monk at this point or nah. Startin zaqul soon
exotic spoke
I think you’re being selfish and not realizing it’s dead and gone
candid path
It's literally always worth juicing up a Monk for raid.
exotic spoke
Mythic or heroic?
honest frigate
I think there a few prot warriors that have killed azshara so far on mythic
candid path
But it's doable as a Warrior.
frigid heart
mythic
honest frigate
Any end boss is doable as any tank
frigid heart
not asking if possible, just asking if its worth swapping for last 2
honest frigate
No point in gearing a monk if you want to play warrior but if you want to play monk go for it
Not worth imo given essence gating and the amount of progress you’d need to compensate for outside of raid if your monk is not already raid ready
frigid heart
didnt know if anyone in here was progging azshara and had opinions, no public logs of it on war so far
honest frigate
@hasty nova killed it I believe
exotic spoke
He did ashvane
candid path
It really just depends on how much more work you need to do to get your Monk up to snuff.
honest frigate
Oh oops my bad for the tag
I wouldnt say it’s worth I’m not swapping for azshara 🤷🏻♂️
candid path
But there's no reason to not have a Monk ready to rock for raiding if you're a serious man.
honest frigate
That’s only the top 1% of raiding honestly
candid path
A boss has a final phase with a stacking mortal strike effect. It stacks on autos. Dodgeable autos.
Pretty easy to know which class is going to reign supreme.
honest frigate
Not relevant what tank you play if you’re not competing for world first
empty spire
i see warriors using Heavy Repercussions
sick sentinel
you already crippled your guild by going prot war this tier may as well stick with it until the end
honest frigate
Prot warrior kills will come in just like every other tank
empty spire
I guess everythings possible
sick sentinel
heavy repercussions is the future of prot warrior
empty spire
I sincerly hope so
exotic spoke
I think @oblique garnet is on azshara
empty spire
I mean how good actually is it considering Brace for impact is a thing
candid path
I see people successfully playing suboptimal garbage as a testament to the indomitable nature of the human spirit more than a justification for that trash being not-so-trash, but maybe that's just me.
oblique garnet
hm?
exotic spoke
You’re working on azshara right?
exotic spoke
Someone was asking about prot viability for it
sick sentinel
heavy repercussions sims well depending on how many bastion of might traits you have vs other stuff
oblique garnet
im playing monk
exotic spoke
Ahhh rip
frigid heart
why play monk its only relevant on world first kills 4head
empty spire
yeam my guild wants me playing monk on that fight as well, gearing it this reset
sick sentinel
end of this tier is gonna be a fat dream's end with 3 rf and heavy repercussions cant wait
exotic spoke
I’m soooo happy i don’t worry about that
Mmmm that does sound sexy though
So glad I don’t have to worry about Gearing monk I mean
frigid heart
thx for input azshara folks 🙂
oblique garnet
Monk is just better for the add movement because taunt gives ms
and also being able to dodge jolts
warrior is perfectly fine for it
monk is just better
shut summit
p much
oblique garnet
Sensemonk when?
shut summit
never
oblique garnet
Good
frigid heart
Ill prob warrior cuz my monk is so behind, first tier tanking I wasn't prepped on everything
exotic spoke
Kingfuriki is coming for you Late. She’s 62 and probably won’t hit 70 until next year
icy walrus
some good prot warr streaming m+?
empty spire
theres an ok prot warrior streaming m+ and progression
icy walrus
could you tell me the streamer name?
empty spire
its me lol, just started streaming this week, not sure im allowed to plug streams outside of promotion channel but im 6/8m and do mythic+ on warrior and monk
rapid tide
Why did I decide to trial on Fury. Uff.
I have no idea how that spec works...
Should have tried to get a tankspot after all 😄
sick sentinel
Any tips how to sidestep Cragmaws (2nd boss underrot) frontal? It seems to be really hard as he traces for like 80% of the cast and if you don't hit the timing perfectly you get hit
warm plinth
You don't sidestep it; you back away from it
empty spire
i might try HR build with brace for impact next raid
ill blame warrior discord if it doesnt work
warm plinth
When the timer hits slightly under 1 sec left, he'll stop moving. You can literally backpedal/strafe back away from him and it'll miss you as long as you keep moving until the cast goes off.
sick sentinel
So literally outrange it? Or you mean like a diagonal strafe to the right/left?
warm plinth
No you just outrange it
sand egret
@sick sentinel it's an 8 yrd frontal cone
walk backwards 8 yards
and then promptly fire a /dance macro
warm plinth
You can literally backpedal and make it out in time as long as you start moving at slightly under 1 second on the timer (when he "roots" himself)
sand egret
or be an actual tank and side-walk it (it's faster than backpeddlin)
warm plinth
But strafing perpendicular to him gives you a bit more wiggle room
sand egret
oh I lied, it's 12 yards
warm plinth
So like (BOSS)(YOU). Boss is about to cast Indigestion. You strafe so (BOSS)---->(YOU). Best diagram ever.
sand egret
also TIL that each tick is it's own individual spell....they hand place tick numbers....
sand egret
yeah summon tick is a single tick instance
they fire 6x of those
instead of a single spell with a dynamic range
warm plinth
My favorite part of Tantrum is when you got everything cleared and then he's like nope, let me shit out some more for you rq
exotic spoke
Indigestion is fun 😃
sick sentinel
just block indegestion
exotic spoke
....
sand egret
or take 0 damage
warm plinth
You can't block it 🤔
sick sentinel
raise your shield above your head and let the indegestion fall off it
warm plinth
Also just noticed the spreadsheet still shows it as requiring leap to outrange
Which is definitely not the case, since I did 2 13s this week on my pally and just strafed to avoid it
sand egret
i strafe it every tim e
sick sentinel
Wait that sounded like you strafe before he starts casting it
sand egret
it's literally just a 12 yards cone. Can you run 12 yards in 1.5 seconds? Yes.
warm plinth
Yeah, I just look at the boss timers and when it's at like .9 or .8 seconds, I start strafing. He roots himself for the cast around that point
sand egret
psh timers
sand egret
but he does cast an ability* at his energy intervals so it's pretty readable
- the fact that he's a big boy and you don't have to be sitting on the origin to tank him, so you're running less than 12 yards
warm plinth
Mmhm. Pretty easy to predict even if you don't have timers
Just might strafe for nothing if it's charge first instead of indigestion lol. But then you can intercept for more rage 😄
sand egret
honestly I just run during the timer itself and it works out /shrug
exotic spoke
You have to pre run on every ability until he casts indigestion
To make it safely out
warm plinth
Yeah since the only one you know is coming is if he does charge/indigestion/charge, and you still have to pre-run for the first one just in case
sand egret
once you get the hang of it, it's super trivial imho
warm plinth
Yeah. Good thing too since if it does hit you, it hurts a bit
sand egret
that DID racial comin in clutch there
warm plinth
Oh shit
exotic spoke
I... I honestly forgot that movespeed bonus existed
warm plinth
Pro strats
sand egret
it's poor man's GonkGang
exotic spoke
WATCH YOUR MOUTH
warm plinth
Literally poor man, because Zandas get more gold from loot
sick sentinel
oh my god I finally understood it, thanks alot bois. I thought YOu have to wait until 3/4 of the cast is DONE and then start moving. I didnt get that you start moving before he starts the cast
sand egret
noooo
warm plinth
No no no
If you do that you're getting nailed
Oh wait
I should read the whole message
exotic spoke
Yeah - that’s how you die. Personally - I don’t like dying
warm plinth
The first thing is how you die
exotic spoke
That’s why you move pre cast - like you said
warm plinth
The second part is how you do it correctly
sand egret
unless you got a movespeed boost, or have an insane reaction speed, you need to anticipate the cast
exotic spoke
I have leap ready Incase I fuck it
sick sentinel
Yeah, I always thought that he traces til the very end of the cast and then stops moving, so that you have to time and wait til the very end of the cast and then start moving at the exact right moment. But yeah, its clear now 😄 thanks a lot
exotic spoke
That sounds like a healer problem to deal with
Or dps I guess
warm plinth
@sick sentinel Just in case you want a video example, here's Sense doing it: https://youtu.be/2c_MQTBYojA?t=793
sand egret
he traces horizontally but he's stationary
also to point out in that clip, doesnt' even look like Sense pre-runs. He starts moving as the cast bar appears
warm plinth
Yeah I noticed that too
sand egret
so, like I said, no pre-run necessary ;P
warm plinth
So looks like you have quite a bit of margin for error
sand egret
(but not a bad habit lol)
warm plinth
Yeah especially while you're getting used to it
warm plinth
I'm sure he is lul. Just to make HMT not feel like molasses
exotic spoke
Just play goblin
warm plinth
Or Kul Tiran. Be a big boi without feeling slow af
warm plinth
John Cena philosophy. Clever.
warm plinth
Well played sir, well played
analog swift
late response, sense looks like he maximizes melee range tho for the run
exotic spoke
@oblique garnet mind letting me know when you finish that run? Just have a question for you
oblique garnet
@exotic spoke hm?
warm plinth
@winter skiff That's with procs during drums buff :p
winter skiff
oh i see
exotic spoke
Can someone please make it 7 pm eastern. I want to get out of here
weary thorn
Man I leave work at 3 or I'll never make it through DC traffic
I also get in by 7 though for the same reason
oblique garnet
@warm plinth premoving is mostly just a safety precaution because on the first cast it can be either charge or frontal and if you are too slow to react you wont make it out of range
I.e if its charge first you know when the frontal is coming and you can move accordingly when the cast comes looking at timers but on the first cast its safer to premove a bit
warm plinth
I always premove. Better safe than sorry
exotic spoke
@weary thorn you may not be able to log in. I had issues connecting to wow and it is apparently still going on - especially if you have Verizon
And I’m close to Annapolis.
Also - fuck DC traffic
weary thorn
hmmm
I'm down in Fairfax, but I was on just an hour ago
I'll double check right now
exotic spoke
Apparently was an issue with Verizon
weary thorn
yea, I'm in. And I have cox 
exotic spoke
And you should be fine if you connected 30 minutes ago
weary thorn
yea looks good on my end
exotic spoke
Whomp whomp
ivory barn
Hi guys, Fury is my main spec. Prot is my alt for Keys, but which Trinkets would you recommend?
exotic spoke
This week or in general?
exotic spoke
In general - and this is slightly vague sorry - I would do no more than 1 defensive trinket personally
I haven’t played around with edicts yet because I don’t have it - So id use urchin. Maybe edicts in places like mother lode.
As for the dps probably gore crusted or rezans
ivory barn
which one out of the ones I linked would you use?
exotic spoke
If I didn’t think I needed the defensive I’d sim and figure out which gave the most offensive - I think gore crusted is up there and probably rezan
I think those are all linked?
ivory barn
yeah the 2 equipped + the 4 below the frame
exotic spoke
Urchin (rarely edicts) and probably gore - though that 440 eye is sexy
If I don’t need defensive trinkets I’d use gore and eye
ivory barn
whats the Urchin/edict?
exotic spoke
Is that the trinket to the right of gore crusted
ivory barn
thats a razor Coral
exotic spoke
And edicts of the faithless - isn’t that what you’re using
Oh it looks the same or similar
ivory barn
thats the inkpod
ivory barn
alrighty Thank you!
opaque shuttle
Hey guys, do you think that swapping one of my BoM to Loyal to the end ( asuming that other raiders have it ) is worth ?
honest frigate
No BoM is definitely better imo
willow scarab
If everyone has loyal to the end it's not a bad idea
You're helping them and 351 mastery constantly vs 700 on your avatar is similar value
But make sure you have at least 1 BoM for the IP part of the trait
spice ferry
yeh i'd say your raids benefit would outweigh your own loss quite a bit, depending on how many are also running it
sick sentinel
Guys I need a bit of help. I want to try to time a +10 KR, but I'm afraid of the little guys at the start that they are going to wreck the group
warm plinth
Are you alliance or horde?
sick sentinel
horde
warm plinth
Just invite a belf rogue and have them go in and cloak/arcane torrent
sick sentinel
hmm okay
warm plinth
Or if you're a belf you can probably berserker rage/arcane torrent
Never tried that though since I'm a dwarf, but we do the rogue strat on my horde team
If there's no void at the start, you can also shroud/invis past the first pack of them and rogue can do it on the ones that spawn in the boss room
You hit the gong, rest of the group stands back by the gong, and the rogue stealths to the spawn and cloak/torrents/vanishes
You'll be out of range of bursting and rogue doesn't even have to die
oblique garnet
You can berserker rage into arcane torrent to them, rogues can also distract into belf
inland mesa
Is guild launch dead for anyone else?
merry cave
That's a much more sophisticated Strat, we just clear them then laugh as our Resto druid gets worsening blood pressure
oblique garnet
What rogues can and should do when they enter the first boss room is if they are belfs and the adds spawn Distract them->Belf->vanish that way all the minions are cleared and if its bursting rest of the team is out of range while rogue can just cloak
sick sentinel
so, is there a range on bursting? i know its about to end but i might give that KR 10 one more go
we were like 53 minutes few too many wipes at the start
merry cave
60y I think
sick sentinel
wow, thats a bit scary
merry cave
Don't quote me on that
sick sentinel
my other idea to get it, was to have a pally pull it when it pats and then he bubbles or has a SS, and then we get him to rez healer and then us
oblique garnet
the bursting stacks wont kill you because they are simultaneous it doesnt do as much as staggered
sick sentinel
I think a 10 over time on KR is good enough for me this week, I beat 8 of my previous records this weekend anyway, did a bunch of 10s on time
not the best times, but i did them at least
willow scarab
@sick sentinel just shroud past them and then you’re fine, no bursting to deal with either
You could also bring a spriest and mass dispel them then have your healer top everyone
sick sentinel
well, there is a pack at the boss room which i am more afraid of
willow scarab
That one is actually easier
Pull the left pack back to the golden button which starts the room
The pats will stop at that spot and are free to be dealt with separately
Alternatively you can pull both right and left packs together and go back to the golden button. That will give you even more space to deal with them
oblique garnet
You progging zagul fume?
willow scarab
Stupid boss
8% best wipe, we’re like 70 attempts in
Being the tank that has to do literally everything sucks
And when the tentacles spawn on top of the circle he’s gotta soak? 🙅♂️🙅♂️ miss me with that
sick sentinel
being a main tank can be stressful as all hell, but when that boss goes down and everyone cheers at you for it, it's worth it
willow scarab
While you’re right - just wait till mythic zaqul. You have so much to do the entire time
It’s like 2x the normal amount of stuff to deal with and the other tank mostly gets to afk
sick sentinel
mythic zaqul, no thanks
oblique garnet
is your cotank still the dk?
sick sentinel
you mean fumeiyo?
oblique garnet
Yes
sick sentinel
okay, because i used to have a dk co-tank, but then i left the guild last week
willow scarab
Yeah still the dk
It’s pretty nice for add control and he can heal himself through the mitigated damage I give to him
Monk obviously better but it’s working fine
The only reason the boss isn’t dead is because my job is so hard 😊 sandbagging the raid
oblique garnet
monk taunt is real nice for moving the boss :))
willow scarab
It’s so tilting having dps make remarks after wipes
Like their entire job is to follow the boss and stand in a few circles
vernal stirrup
unkempt bramble
Would u guys sacrifice a 3rd BoM trait for an azerite 25 ilvls higher
oblique garnet
yes
unkempt bramble
for m+ that is
oblique garnet
depends on the traits
unkempt bramble
Id lose BoM and Blightborne Infusion
oblique garnet
And your options are?
unkempt bramble
and gain Deafening Crash and IF
oblique garnet
yes
oblique garnet
why do you have 3 deafening crashes
unkempt bramble
thunder clap dmg i guess and no better traits to choose
willow scarab
I would suggest changing some of your other DCs
Sucks to lose blightborn snd bom though
25ilvl is worth it
willow scarab
I’d run 3 if I could
If you’re in a position where you’re using 420 Azerite then you can deal with using a BS trait
Full damage builds are for when you’re 450 not 430
unkempt bramble
im 440 😛
oblique garnet
still wouldnt run 420 azerites
willow scarab
I only use one crash for m+ and I’m 446
oblique garnet
^
willow scarab
I’m actually really enjoying full defensive play and doing bigger pulls this season to let dps carry with new essences
What level keys are you doing? It doesn’t really matter as much in low keys
willow scarab
Do whatever you want then
But for high keys it’s really nice being a brick wall
It sucks to not do 300k burst on reaping but our dps got nerfed anyway so I build around utilising the dps as best I can because their gain will always be so much more dps than my dps build offers
unkempt bramble
So is still Bloodsport worth over a 2nd or 3rd DC
oblique garnet
yes
willow scarab
Yeah only use 1 dc this season
The extra defensive traits means a bigger pull and an overall faster key
orchid token
oblique garnet
thats affected by multiple things
willow scarab
Have a look at logs on some warriors you like and check their uptime for a realistic answer
Wish you were up at 5am for the good discussions here @orchid token
sand relic
@oblique garnet I mean u can atleast keep it up 90+ percent right
some 1 is trying to tell me its not possible
novel temple
are people using the edict on magic damage and the urchin with the null barrier this week?
for m+?
stuck crown
That's what I was using
sick sentinel
On necrotic?
That's the worse possible choice you could make
Don't use any of those this week
tawny maple
Anyone else experience world lag today? Or was it just me and my shit internet again?
crimson furnace
its just u, man
sorry to say it
its just you
like always
....
@novel temple why kultiran, bigboy??
sick sentinel
this is a good reason to play kultiran
superdad, the dad who saved my mythic dungeon
sick sentinel
was a bit creepy
graceful cobalt
hi should we take multiplikation enchant or Quick Navigation?
spice ferry
force multiplier
graceful cobalt
ok thx becouse i read on icy-veins quick navigation and here mutiple force
spice ferry
icy veins is generally based around being defensive, FM is better for DPS.
mint imp
naga hide would be better for defense than quck navigation though
sick sentinel
debatable
novel temple
@sick sentinel its cause you got them white claws doctor
graceful cobalt
one trinket question. i got Razans eye on 450 za qul trinket with damage reduce/trade to a party member 430 and mechagon trinket with the cards on 422 ( red heals me yellow 179 haste+59 versality wich combo i should take? ( the red with 1200 haste proc i was destroying
and is the red one only a drop from mechagon or can i make it myself by the ingi robot there
mental crag
not chains of suffering
sick sentinel
Use rezan's everywhere
mint imp
rezan for sure
graceful cobalt
and sec trinket?
mint imp
Honestly non of the others is good. You better farm gore block, vial or some raid boss trinket
graceful cobalt
or i have 430 the trinket from WM that gave me krit for 15 sec
willow scarab
I would use rezans and buy the cyclotronic blast red card for raid
The. Get a better second trinket for m+
Rezan and gore block is a good combo
willow scarab
Barnacle is good in dungeons with lots of yellow quality mobs to spread it
graceful cobalt
Gore-Crusted Butcher's Block that i have
willow scarab
Yes use it with rezan for m+
graceful cobalt
ok thx
mental crag
Do you guys usually open your M+ chest as prot or DPS?
oblique garnet
if you have 440+ shield and weapon open as dps
stoic pilot
Sporepods are nice if you pvp as arms at least
But yeah after suffering a 425 machimbas last season I’d have to say it’s pretty sketchy to loot as prot
willow scarab
why wouldn't you use cyclotronic/safeguard/badge + insignia for pvp?
I open it as prot until I have a 445 wep/shield because I'm hoping for a titanforge, after that I open it as arms hoping for a 440+ cut of death
oblique garnet
stoic pilot
Idk I’ve really enjoyed sporepods in pvp it does pretty insane healing
willow scarab
what rating are you playing at?
stoic pilot
Nothing high this season, but it’s even recommended by joefernandes
Only playing at 1800 though atm
oblique garnet
pvp is the only good use for sporepods
mental scarab
👀
old falcon
What would be best for M+ in yalls opinions
between 400 Rezans eye, 400 Urchin, 450 Gore Crusted Block
mint imp
rezan+gore
sick sentinel
@oblique garnet get fucked nerd
oblique garnet
@sick sentinel ?
oblique harbor
What do you think, about mythic plus, idk if i level up blacksmith or eng, but i'll peffer eng
mental crag
another month of raiding heroic, because I forgot that engi helms need drops from AEP 😬
Is BoB any good as a trait?
hallow phoenix
Barrage of many bombs?
mental crag
@hallow phoenix yes.
hallow phoenix
barrage is good for damage if the fight is stationary. otherwise gizmo is better. Ive heard good things about synaptic spark capacitor in m+, but have never used it.
overall barrage looks the coolest so i tend to use it...
and a word of note on absorbotron: it can pull mobs during shroud or invis skips
for raids id always use gizmo
mental crag
Thank you for that. I am torn between prot and fury in M+
I think prot might be more valuable as a whole and get me into higher keys faster than Fury
brittle owl
if you plan on pugging
go prot
100%
your biggest enemy is community autismo
if you have a stable group
play what you want tbh 🤷 figure out what the team needs more
sick sentinel
Is it worth doing more than 1 deafening crash or am I better off justing picking something else?
marble cipher
Just 1 is enough
sick sentinel
What I thought. Had a friend tell me I should drop one of my BoM for DC 2x and wanted to make sure nothing changed
stark ruin
If same ilvl, I'd always go for 3 bom
With VoP you have avatar up all the time and the extra mastery is nice
brisk ferry
it's just ilvl > first DC > as many BoMs as you can get
goggles have DC so at least it takes care of that
also I believe they sim very high
sick sentinel
Gismo is a good trait
brisk ferry
for dps just sim
mint imp
ok
marble cipher
@mint imp I had to make a choice between 2xBoM and 1xBom + engi helm.
Engi helm was a 15ilvl upgrade, and the sims showed more dps as well, so sadly, I dropped to 1 BoM for now
Will be gambling chests from now on to recover another BoM there, while wearing the engi helm.
mint imp
I currently have 2xBoM + engi helm all 445ilvl. So i will try to get helm for residuum with BoM and sim with 3xBoM.
brisk ferry
I've seen some do that
I actually just upgraded the benthic helmet for the same thing Nome
strong forum
As I don't have any boms, I think the 645 mastery is better than gismo + having IV
brisk ferry
yeh that's fair, I've seen quite a few running the HM helmet
uhh sec see if I can find it
exotic spoke
I mean - that helmet is also 10k TR towards the 200k I need
Erm sorry; it’s not 10k - is whatever 430 is I can’t remember
exotic spoke
It’s very solid
ancient cosmos
that's pretty nice
weary thorn
boys I was so sad yesterday Was 515 rustbolt rep short of exalted, so no null r3 during thiccvane prog last night.
ancient cosmos
yeah that would be crazy
brisk ferry
yeah they are nutty for sure
exotic spoke
Truth
ancient cosmos
@weary thorn i feel your pain. I've been pushing achieves and didn't realize R3 would need so many spare parts, so now I'm trying to get those all done
weary thorn
yea, I'll have to farm a few crates before next raid, but nothing crazy
mint imp
and you need to complete HM to get those goggles right?
weary thorn
funny thing is, its just for ashvane. As soon as we get to gorgonzola I'll be back on my brew
brisk ferry
yes hardmode Kobris
weary thorn
HM and 1/5 chance to get it
mint imp
yep, 445 eng helm is better overall no?
weary thorn
better than a 420 if you dont have the HM helm
brisk ferry
as much as I hate Mechagon, I'd use the goggles
mint imp
and 420HM helm is better than 445 engi helm?
exotic spoke
Mechagon isn’t that bad
brisk ferry
HM helm is 430
strong forum
I'd say the mecha HM helmet is only better in m+
If you don't have any boms
Engi would be better for raid
marble cipher
For M+, yeah, I'd use the Mecha HM helm, traits are just perfect, which probably makes up for the ilvl loss over the engi helm
No luck in getting it drop yet though
still have hardmode this lockout, but, slim chance that I'll be doing it tonight since I raid till midnight....
strong forum
2nd time I got it, last one I scrapped cuz I didn't think too much about it
So this one ima use
weary thorn
I got it on my monk, but not warrior rip. Its a decent windwalker helm though at least
onyx vessel
Whats best minor for m+ null? Maybe sphere from pvp on nec weeks
weary thorn
r3 null is pretty solid. Sphere is good if you need to kite. I swap between vop and lucid as well depending on the run
onyx vessel
Lucid it is
marble cipher
I always run VoP major - Lucid minor
But, I run 10-13 keys, so, it's not really that I need to minmax
tacit smelt
Keep in mind that sphere and clap slow don't stack
onyx vessel
Makes sense i used it in pvp alot when i was grinding honor didnt seem like it did shit
sick sentinel
leveling my shaman as i que into a cata dungeon with a warrior tank that doesnt know how to hold aggro https://i.imgur.com/uT8gtHw.png
onyx vessel
Prob doesnt stack with other slows and overrides them?
sick sentinel
he ignored me after the last message
onyx vessel
What lvl
onyx vessel
When i started playing i use to bubble to save myself
tacit smelt
My eyes, what have you done to me g dollar
ancient cosmos
get the poor man some misdirects so he can use shield block 😝
onyx vessel
Queuing as a tank
How do you fail at aggro at 80 ik theres a aggro issue if your overleveled
exotic spoke
It’s so cute
sick sentinel
no he needs to dump rage on revenge for aggro
tacit smelt
Eventually he/she will learn from their mistakes
exotic spoke
Or they won’t
ancient cosmos
or he will rage forever and change classes
exotic spoke
^^
sick sentinel
he had heirlooms so its obviously not a new player
modern brook
not the chat for ragging on #protection players tbh
tacit smelt
What tanking did they do in legion
ancient cosmos
speaking of aggro, i still get DHs pulling off me with beam on big packs. despite my best efforts/rotation. any pro strats to try to mitigate that?
exotic spoke
We talking eye beam or iris?
ancient cosmos
eye beam
sick sentinel
thunderclap harder
modern brook
mis direction and coordination are the easiest methods
weary thorn
you should have avatar up for big pulls, unless you arent really doing big pulls
sick sentinel
VoP major and you'll have avatar up for every pull
exotic spoke
Don’t avatar into Demo back to back. Weave a thunderclap in between the two abilities. Otherwise without more information it basically comes down to “TC More”
modern brook
@weary thorn the problem isnt big pulls, its the 2 pack after that they decide to eyebeam
tacit smelt
Don't speak about beams here man I get a full stack of dps popping Iris on skittish weeks
exotic spoke
Bull - I can’t fix stupid
modern brook
^ the tank mantra
sick sentinel
what about dps popping iris on small hp packs with bursting??
exotic spoke
Your dps are idiots then Quackr
weary thorn
then you let them die if they pull aggro like that
ancient cosmos
@sick sentinel lol
exotic spoke
Darwinism is a cruel master
modern brook
hoenstly i have no problem with that
I'd much rather low hp bursters die together for 8 stacks then extend over natural cleave for the fight
sick sentinel
i miss when in legion we could survive 11 bursting stacks no problem
ancient cosmos
@exotic spoke thanks, i do tend to avatar into demo w/o tclap in between. easy fix
weary thorn
yea no shit, If I see some mongo intentionally ripping aggro from me 0.5 seconds into a pack then they get to tank it for me
modern brook
i mean i think thats like the begining and end of the aggro discussion
like as long as you're actually pressing your buttons, aggro is a non-factor unless your monkeys decide to make it one
weary thorn
bingo
exotic spoke
Truth
modern brook
Basically Beguiling has 3 variations
where each emissary is more prevelant
last week was enchanted
exotic spoke
There are three emissaries now. They rotate what the primary / most common emissary is
modern brook
this week is void
exotic spoke
Next week is cancer - fuck tides
modern brook
Tides def the worst tbh
marble cipher
I did not know that
I thought em's were totally random
(well, fixed for the week, but not on a rotation which one would be more prevelant)
if that makes sense 🤔
modern brook
I believe that the location of them is still random per week
just that there will be more voids this week
I'm not positive on that though, I've just been staring at MDT every teusday
red wedge
Teeming, Void, Quaking, Fortified - If MDT is correct, yes?
exotic spoke
I believe so - going off memory
red wedge
The location of emissary spawns is set.
modern brook
gross is it really ?
red wedge
I thought it was.
weary thorn
if MDT knows the upcoming week, has angrykeys been abandoned? I thought it was still random and thats why the mod is broken
red wedge
It was just different based on the week.
modern brook
the guy that made MDT got onto the tourney realm after method killed m azshara
from what i heard
so i think MDT is the current source
weary thorn
gotcha
red wedge
Like each of the three variants for the emissary types have their own set locations.
modern brook
I mean thats not wrong :^)
red wedge
I keep wording that ambiguously.. I need more coffee, but I'm pretty sure y'all understand what I'm trying to say. lol
modern brook
YEah
red wedge
haha
It's too early for me.. Only good thing so far is that I decided to work from home today. ;p
red wedge
I have friends coming into town tonight through the 30th. I have off tomorrow through then. So, I'm pretty much in the same boat. haha
I'm ready for my cache of disappointments.. and then imma force some of my guildies to go through mecha with me so i can get my rank 3. :D
modern brook
I'm such a bad wow player
I've done hardmode 4 times already
But i havent activated the level 2 thing yet
so none of it matters
red wedge
hehe
weary thorn
I've not gone for r3 vop either bull
red wedge
If it makes ya feel better, bull, I dont even have Rank 1 Conflict and Strife :P
weary thorn
I do!...on my brew
modern brook
I was about to say "I dont really care about VoP" but then i remembered the discord im in 😬
My Warrior is almost at 49 neck 😎
red wedge
:D
modern brook
an uncomfortably large portion of my play group comes from this discord
so i dont really play prot anymore :^(
weary thorn
what you on now?
modern brook
I've been playing Rogue for the last 2 seasons
and im like pretending to level a rdruid behind it
pretty much just waiting for 2.5 cause holy shit is this patch alt unfreindly
weary thorn
I'd love to have a druid, but i only have time for two classes
red wedge
I'm waiting to see if my guild survives the WoW Classic Release, and Mythic Ashvane.
modern brook
I am just super unexcited for wow Classic tbh
red wedge
Same
modern brook
I have like none of the nostalgia
red wedge
A lot of my guild is all about it, though.
marble cipher
I did it all before, have no intentions of "actively" doing anything classic related this time around.
But yeah, we'll lose some guildies too, for a while 😄
onyx vessel
Prob lose my whole guild for a month no interest for me
red wedge
I'm fairly certain the ones in my guild are just dissatisfied with WoW, and they think Classic is gonna be better for some reason.
weary thorn
cant raid mythic, have to progress MC for a world first Ragnaros down.....because it totally didnt happen over a decade ago
red wedge
World First! For the... second time... woo?
onyx vessel
Prob gonna die to method 1st pull
exotic spoke
Fuck doing vanilla all over again. I did it once. I don’t need to see old content again
weary thorn
No Roger? Cant beat easiest end-raid boss
onyx vessel
They lost crucible cuz roger wasnt there
weary thorn
Im gonna go out on a limb here and say that Rag is a slightly less intensive fight than CoS
red wedge
I mean. Rag had like what? 5 mechanics that involved "Oh. Dont stand there. 5yds to the right? You good."
exotic spoke
I’m going to go out there and say most of the fights are less intensive than the majority of fights in retail
onyx vessel
Like all classic bosses
exotic spoke
Late AQ they added some interesting stuff - and it continued in Naxx
marble cipher
Hogger though....
lethal plaza
warcraftlogs down rn?
exotic spoke
I hated Huhu. One guild, ironically the one i joined in BC and am in now, had a lock down on the green dragons. So, trying to do Huhu in Mauradon Nr gear was cancer
hasty nova
above all things wow is most fun when you are playing with people you like a lot doing content you all think is fun
personally I really enjoyed the battlegrounds back then.
and the leveling
and the raids
but like 2000 other ppl have said
i have already done that
and the grinding is WAY worse than the grinding is now
exotic spoke
I enjoyed what inplayed back then. I enjoyed the fuck out of it. It was an amazing game for the time and I take nothing away from it
hasty nova
so i'll just stick to the nice fancy graphics, large pool of playable classes with different specs, and engageing mythic raiding.
exotic spoke
But, zero interest in doing something I explored close to 100% of
What I didn’t do would take so much time I don’t even care about it. I hit rank 11 in the vanilla pvp grind. I cleared almost all of AQ and cleared Naxx. I don’t care about a boss I missed
willow scarab
I think the majority of classic players will be players who didn't play vanilla and people who have been off the game for years
hasty nova
oh wow you did nax in vanilla?
willow scarab
Most people I've spoken to that played vanilla aren't interested in classic
exotic spoke
World 39th
hasty nova
gosh that was a lot of work back then
hasty nova
highest i got was knight-captain on my rogue
exotic spoke
Twinsy!
hasty nova
not sure what rank that was
willow scarab
I recently merged my vanilla account to my main
exotic spoke
Commander Riki. Now Field Marshall Riki
willow scarab
so i got commander and master seargent achievments from vanilla
strong forum
I'll just play vanilla cuz it gives you smth do to
willow scarab
grinding AP is something to do
exotic spoke
I mean sure but also ^^
hasty nova
haha grinding levels in vanilla around level 52
exotic spoke
And or carries or play another game (which while technically classic is I would want a step away from wow
strong forum
Fucking around in vanilla is atleast smth
exotic spoke
Last 3-4 levels for me was in deadwind pass as it wasn’t too populated on my server. Farming ogres
willow scarab
I think i'm just gonna play classic as a twink
like exchange bfa gold for classic gold and get a full +fire spell dmg set for a 39 mage twink
exotic spoke
I’ll screw around On it but if I hit level 40 I will be sooo shocked
strong forum
I have 0 plans to hit 60 in classic
exotic spoke
You’d have a hell of a conversion rate with someone you trust
strong forum
I'll just fuck around with the boys
plain silo
Spirits on the lake then Moonkins from 53 to 60, in Winterspring, still have PTSD
hasty nova
man that tv show was so good, "the boys"
willow scarab
I think the place for classic for me is where hearthstone currently is
sometimes you just wanna play a different game for an hour or two
and that'll be classic
exotic spoke
He has. But how do we know he’s the evil one? What if you’re the evil one Nome
willow scarab
I agree with riki
exotic spoke
Yup and that’s how I’ll approach it