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waiting for Tofu to come by and say just meld
where is tofu anyway
havent seen him in a while
melded
wow can't even tag
@outer dew Nim is wondering where you are.
I meld my necrotic all the time
wtf there's 4 tofus
And get added strength for doing it too
My whole team is elf though, so I just shockwave and call it
i miss being a dorf
@outer dew i only picked you cause you have an asian lady, im sorry if you're not tofu
shit was so op
I’m a regular dorf so no str for me
Rip
shots.fired.
I have better transmog than most people so I don’t care about heritage armor.
That would require me to level an alt from 20
Can you imagine the rage if Blizzard had made it so you had to have leveled an allied race to 120 before you could race change to it
guys, i see more and more ppl using naga hide,,,
actually after i created magechip
did i miss something?
the best damage mitigation is death
its too early
force multi all the way
why must we naga hide
:)))
anyway back to my story
i created magechip and i had the brilliant idea
to use a boost
and then i realized you couldn't get heirloom armor when boosting
big brain moves
rip no nightborne heirloom armor
i actually petitioned
a gm to see if they could remove it
didn't happen

"any questions today about naga hide"?
what if I use Naga hide, but ironically
@abrodus
Rip Lincoln
Is Edict a good trinket for prot? (mainly for keys), and magic or phys?
(if it's good)
also have urchin, same ilvl
How do u get lvl 2 vop essence
I have done fhe dungeon once buy never djd anything on the new zone
you'll get it the second time you run the dungeon
a blueprint to craft it at pascal
you have to do the dungeon a second time and you have to have unlocked pascal on the island
How do u unlock pascal
do the quests
@marble cipher yes, using both of them is beast in keys
sup yall
Also gulkamania, you will have to do operation mechagon again in order to get the pattern for rank 2
And then you’ll have to do it between 2-4 more times for rank 3
Sup Gus
I see ok
@crimson furnace isn't using both very much overkill? but, then again, I do like the sound of being even more immortal 🤔
man getting mythic ashvane down last night feels amazing. our attemps were like 70% 67% 66% 10% 72% 70 70 70 70 kill... lol
Hmmmm
lol
I would typically only ever use 1 defensive trinket in m+
from a +17 mother
One pure defensive*
my healer was doing dmg all the way, had around 20k overall
the whole dungeone
it feels a better gain then doing 1 def and 1 off trinket
I mean - my healer does damage all the way through even if I have two dps trinkets in
If it works for you - sure great. But be open to pushing your limits. I’d advise trying more dps trinkets personally
Edict shows good on the meter, but you have to remember to consider how often it goes up and absorbs damage that would have been passively healed
ashvane is a werid fight in that... it feels like you are not even close, and then BAM it's dead.
How do u get the trinket for mega is it a drop than put punch cards in there
Got a bunch of pulls in last night. Our dps isn’t high enough. Getting better. Got the rhythm down and identified areas of mechanical improvement
yeah it is a LOT of coordination
Chance has it, half of every edict shield turned into overhealing during the pull and did not create a life saving absorb
Was about to ask 😃
i didn't do too bad. (obviously below average)
And you posted second pic before I could
but honestly, the warriors who have killed M ashvane already are probably just simply better than me at this point.
and we had a 8:02 kill time. super long
Did 19k without hero / second pots in 5:50 pull. Need to pump those rookie numbers up
so that deflats my parse a bit
I assume you three tanked it?
yeah we needed to break shield so we had a few ppl pop pots at different times
yeah we three tanked it
Three tank / three phase
our dps honestly was to low to kill it
qoute unqoute but we have pretty good coordination and were able to arrange cooldowns until we were able to break through shields and meet health percentages
Very nice. We’re a bit off. Maybe 5% during first shield break
You guys have about 50k total more dps than we do in your raid. So that means we’re getting closer
i will say this tho, we had a LOT of trouble haha
like damn that boss was a rough one
our healers figured out around pull 25 that we simply could not heal through too many bubbles if we missed corals
so we started wiping it if we had 1 coral remaining after the two azerite
and that pushed us a lot further in
Swear to god. Our rsham like refuses to dps. Had to pull him into officer on break and tell him
There are periods where no damage is going out. Fucking cast dps spells
which evetually led to the kill
Yeah - that makes sense. Tank has to soak 15. Die . Rez and soak 5 rq before dying again
How many healers did you run? 3?
3
3
He has open GCDs where he isn’t doing shit
That's what my guild is trying 3 tank / 3 heal. Last night was their 2nd full night, but the off-tank rage quit a day ago or something.
For example - 11 casts in the first 35 seconds where there is very little damage going out
Like - fucking cast flame shock or some shit
we spent about 8 hours total on m ashvane and had about 65 wipes
but thats mythic raiding honestly, if ur not prepared for a LOT of wipes M raiding is probably not for you
Truth
having a tank rage quit from a lot of wipes will probably save you in the long run
The nice thing for us last night was being able to call it about 30 minutes early
Pulls were getting very clean. We knew we didn’t have the dps. But figured we got the most we could out of tonight
Might as well save the stress / consumables for next week
that kill tho put us at top world 290 alliance
My guild went into heroic last night to try to farm some trinkets.. Fuckin' prot pally got a 455 inkpod, and couldn't trade it
Very nice!
I could show you a screenshot that would make you sad
Rank 1 on server with.... 3/8 lol
horde or ally?
@exotic spoke
yeah i'm on proudmoore
it's got a lot of ppl. 430k characters
So. Our off-tank didn't rage quit over a boss. He wasn't happy in general, and made a huge dramatic scene because he skipped trash and didnt tell anyone.. And then our other tank pulled it, and he died 'cause apparently there's some trash that requires two tanks? I dont know. So some argument happened, and he quit.
I’m alliance - but we’re the only guild really in mythic
Dead server is dead
what server lol?
If only using one defensive trinket, overall, which would be the better one? Edict or Urchin?
ur not in mooncloaks by chance are you?
For raider io on my server you can be a top 10 on almost every class with under 1k io
Bloodhoof / duskwood
i used to play with them in my old realm was a lot of fun
they were only mythic raiders in that connected realm
yeah i came from thunderlord /ash/ azer/ destromath
the realm pop had like 2000 level 120's on those 4 realms
Bloodhoof is oldschool - one of the original servers
It’s dying and needs another merge
riki, I'm like number 8 prot on my server with literally 4 dungeons completed
Try doing that on Draenor EU (horde) 😂
of 120's
Yeah - it’s dying
I’m only here cause it’s my home - the guild I’m in and friends I’ve played with forever
Yeah, need to be really good on that realm to get into the top
I'll settle for raid rank 30 on the realm for now
That's 4/8
Haha
the largest NA alliance realm is stormrage
not sure what the highest horde NA server is tho
cuz i don't do horde stuff normally
illidan has 135k
tichondrius has 143k 120's
I wonder how many of the people on my server are active / how many accounts
yeah no way to tell.
u can left click stuff on it tho
to see who has what
like left click alliance and it will re-evaluate the pie charts for alliance
the bar at the bottom move to 120-120 to see just max level ppl
i think that is the best way to narrow down who is at least active since bfa
but I wish there was away to at least filter accounts. cuz i know some ppl who have 4 120's
12,312 alliance side 120 characters
Wonder how many of those are alts / inactive
And yeah exactly
Who knows, but at least we have this much information.
when i first discovered "realm pop", i spent a few hours just trying out different servers and combinations of my own server
it really motivated me to move to a bigger server
and i'm soooooooo glad i did.
reallly changes everything. especially AH stuff is so much cheaper on big servers
oh my god.
this data is beautiful
i'm going to spend waaaay too much with this @hasty nova thank you!
So uh.... I’m one of four level 120 Female Dark Iron Dwarves on my server
I must know - who are the other ones?!?
Your alts?
you're bloodhoof right?
Yeah
@lusty grotto you picked right
Sup?
Bby @warm plinth @lusty grotto oh, I've been chilling. 8.2 hasn't really caught my attention
Fair
Just dont play vidya games
That's the olay
That and starting to finally get warm
I seek shelter at a library because I dont got aircon
I've become a bitch who finds 87f hot
Woes is life
Sad face.
I thought you where going to say “board games”
I am not aware of what that is but I’m intrigued
Strip Settlers of Catan.
Its like 4 player go fish
Except you a gambling mofo
Because there's points and you're trying to construct 14 tiles in a certain combination
You can yeet 3 or 4 of a kinds or a 3 long straight
Or some special hands which you gotta keep your hand hidden
wait
How does strip settlers of Catan work
this sounds like mahjongg ... rummy or something
I love classic, really almost everything about it. I even played a private server for a year give or take. Just the graphics and animations... I have already lived it twice. I don't think I could do that again without a graphic and animations overhall. It's kinda like ff7 for me. I love that game and every now and then i'll go through it again with the hax enabled (x3 speed). But even with my last play through, it is just getting to old and blocky. Same thing with balders gate 2. Amazing game, just to old.
killing ashvane last night was the most fun i have had in a while. that was great
such a hard damn boss fight
@sand egret yeah man no prob
on a side note anyone have a good suggestion for auto markers for mythic plus?
make macros to put markers on things
i do have macros for markers on things
I just thought there might be an auto marker that just automatically marks the mobs i have aggroed
or rather marks adds that have kickable casts
There’s a WA that auto marks mobs on pulls
^^
So I recently fell in love with prot. Took me a while to end up at this point. My wep and shield are bad like 395 & 350. My overall ilvl is a shade under 400
Search wago I’m not home or id give you it
Oh lawd. 350 shield 😬
Where should I go to try and upgrade those items is there a good mythic to run, or a good crafted item
ML, Temple, UR, AD
Buy 370 shield. Weapon emissary will be good
All have shields
ML shield is best stat shield so run that m0
Think there’s one more but it’s evading me right now
Conq cap
Ml?
Gives you 410
Motherlode
Mother lode
Got it thanks
i like to run AD because there are like 4 items that are really good for prot warriors there
unlike mother load which gives u stupid red button instead of shield
What ilvl does heroic drop?
Yeah you have a good chance of getting something good
430
375 I think
I don’t think he’s doing heroic EP at 400 ilevel with a 350 shield though :p
yeah haha XD mb.
At least I hope not. I’d feel bad for his healers
I would do @hushed ember world quests, world bosses, and BENTHIC MANA PERALS to get ur ilvl up
after u get it up i would do mythic keys 6-7-8-9-10 over and over
Man if only I were on a computer right now to snip you saying you would do Valentine
Lmao
Why do you guys think so many ppl shit on tanking ? It’s easily the most engaging role
gotchu
Yessss
Tons of fun and honestly feel like a bad ass when I’m tanking
Because it’s more boring than high level dps
Well, dungeon tanking is a lot more engaging than Raid tanking usually
And anyone can do it at a proficient level
And being really good is hardly noticeable
Lmaoooo
yeah, "did they die?" isn't exactly a super granular scale
Cool
You could make it exciting by not taunting on one 😏
no one is like "oh man they took less damage!"
There’s a shit ton of min max and optimization to keep it engaging if you like it tho
Kinda
and a fraction of the mechanics to deal with
raid tanking let's me call out dps who aren't doing their job
If I could do gifs on mobile I’d do the “but did you die?” Gif
Like for example on my monk on radiance (bad example but whatever) I do more healing to myself than the healers do to me
That’s our metric
If I did slightly less and was covered by their healing cds
I also love ALWAYS finding a group in like 5 min max
Nothing would change
yeah that's nice
Yeah that’s why I tank for keys
M+ tanking is also super engaging
Exactly
I don’t think people shit on tanking. It’s just more noticeable if you mess up as a tank and people don’t like that pressure
yeah the "pressure" aspect is a big factor, tbh
Like I’ve done dungeons with pugs and did the route like one pull different than what they’re used to and had people cuss me out
That's when you slow roll your aggro and let them die
we get people in here all the time like "First time tanking....what do I do? halp!"
Not saying I've done that
I can ignore morons like that but some people are really sensitive to that kind of reaction
But I've not not done it
Lol major
Mine was in Legion though so if I’d hit the mob for 5 seconds it was never coming off 😦
I'd be lying if I said I didn't occasionally hold a taunt until after that one dps got slapped up....
Lmao
Yup
Oh you want to Iris on opener huh?
Iris in skittish opener no less
hesitates on taunt button
I hate iris so much
Last week
"sorry dude I didn't have avatar up"
"oh didn't know you were pulling that!" 🤥
Besides warrior, what other tanks do you guys enjoy
BRO I NEVER SAY SORRY
I used to like bdk
yeah that's fine
Monk is my secondary for raid
yep
IM A WARRIOR NOT A SORRYGUY
LOL
Bdk was fun when they didn’t melt like pasteurized processed cheese food
heartstrike
(i'm lying, I'm actually a druid atm)
Blade is a bear
A Pinocchio nose having bear
sonofabitch 🗞 🐻
heartstrike hearstrike deathstrike
and this patch sucks for alts
that's DK
Are you not playing warrior at all now?
yep, I haven't even gotten my mage a single essence yet
tbh
just been jamming prot and fury all patch
magechip has lucid dreams, and CoF
Fair enough
I wanna try VoP on my warrior at some point haha, but yeah
Also I just want everyone to know that I was available for keys last night and @lusty grotto and @modern brook stood me up
ahem
roooood
AHEM
Okay it was just Bull
ok good
Nim did actually message me
hey btw, i bitched in her yesterday about the co-tank on radiance, while i can play warrior anybody decent at ready logs could point out what's going on?
lets not name this person @modern brook @modern brook @modern brook
Nim loves logs
logs are fun
Just make sure you post the link and not just the player name
Oh shit he did a link Nim
the prot warrior!
yo nim look up my mythic azshara kill for me kthxbai
tbh i dunno why I even clicked that log. I know one thing about that fight and that's the little stormhomies do magic damage
I’d look that up just because it’s a guardian with a Mythic Azshara kill
lemme see here, i have a consult with a client in one minute....hmmm I can loo kat five deaths before the consult brb
does your warrior friend know how to press demo more than 7 times in a 6 mins fight
do they realize demo works against magic dmg
ok ok SR usage is good
on cd, this is good
2 walls
2 last stands i seent
yikes
walls are good
on add phases
you would use LS only for the heal and hp gain
so i wouldn't look too much into it
yeah i guess saving for add phases as well
@analog swift
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/bhVTP6yv2qgaMYxH/#fight=40
these are not a "staple of what to do"
but i suppose it might help to use it a bit more
but i would say i am "decent"
Quoting one of the best DHs Ive had in my guild. The glorious Ken-sama. He has great advice that holds truth up to this day.
just press your buttons
If he's playing wrong, he's not pressing his buttons. Literally
@analog swift you popped your shield wall 1s before your first death instead of for the whole duration you were getting molly whopped. You never demo shouted the adds and you spell reflected regular boss pre transitions both times you died
Swirly is hard to dodge okay?
co tank 🙂
You don’t need to SR the raid dmg
He doesn’t
He should be saving it for the transition if he’s having so much trouble
gotcha
If you don't use it on CD, you can use it for the raid dmg
Just to not take any dmg at all
wdym SR the raid damage
So just make sure he has it
Have you done the fight @lusty grotto
You can SR to take less dmg
?
???
Was honest question
Don’t give advice
3 more hours to go, someone kill me
If you suck and can’t give advice to help
question mark question mark question mark
Doing the guy a disservice
Don't talk in this channel unless you've done high keys (+6) thank you.
?
??
Uh Nim popping off
question mark
Cozen, he's a renown member of this discord.
Well he's not wrong
He's probably more qualified than most the people in here.
Lfr raider
Lol
imagine thinking doing x in a group setting makes you better, when its basically group content
just imagine
?
There's lots of people giving solid advice here who don't even play bfa or aren't 4k+ But they have knowledge of how things work/should work
Just like a coach doesn't play on the field
But still knows his shit
So no need to go all ballistic
best advice i ever heard, michael phelps swims faster than his coach
Big
?
Well we have two metrics for being able to speak in Skyhold if you want anyone to listen to you
You have to be over 1800 r.io and you have to have completed a 19 ML on Tyrannical
In the current season btw
Ikr
raging zul on fort as well
I think I might do the spirit moose quest; how painful is archaeology?
Are you dwarf
I mean, I could be I guess?
I always found archaeology to be relaxing
Doesn't really matter what toon I do it on I suppose
It says you only have to have it learned
Normal dwarf would prob be fastest
Do they survey faster or something?
They survey more fragments iirc
You can also buy that glove enchant for legion to survey faster
I'm always watching Netflix if I'm not in a dungeon so way ahead of you there!
Not yet, but I want to
yes obviously watch the boys
super fucking good
also jack ryan
Working on The Walking Dead on Netflix right now. I don't particularly care for Prime Video tbh though
Uh Nim, are you qualified to give show advice?
^ also this
🤔
I like it ¯_(ツ)_/¯
HAVE YOU EVEN SEEN AFTER 3RD SEASON
i saw how they butchered the comic yes
See, not qualified.
Oh, you're one of those
yup totally not qualified
its trash

at least negan killed the correct person
good lord
i aint spoiling okay?!
that was literally my last episode
Yeah, don't fucking spoil it
Seriously - this again?
This meaning what?
yes the whole walking dead is trash talk
at least its not as bad as Dexter's final season
can we agree on this?
🤝 if you do
wanna hear something funny? my coworkers want me to raid with them as they start mythic. I've done 3 bosses on LFR and I'd be the highest geared person in their group. O_O
Is anything worse than Dexter's final season? 🤔
🤝
That's scary Blade lol
err actually the inhumans would like to talk to you ghash
🤝
I looked it up....not a single guild on their server is 1/8 M
err sorry
Never watched it
i meant the inhumans
never been more pissed off then the ending of farscape
I will say that I have very low standards for TV shows. I'm incredibly easy to entertain.
lmao
before the peacekepper films
I loved Z Nation, and Citizen Z was one of my favorite characters. Don't @ me
you just like Z's
he does
is your fav band, ZZ TOp?
Nope
well now you're just inconsistent.
Sorry 😦
its ok
like visiting the zoo?
I like elephants
true fact, baby elephants look at humans the same way we look at puppies
so....they spend hours looking at us on the internet?
yea
makes sense
And people say dolphins are the 2nd smartest animal
But can they use the internet to look at humans?
Ikr, what the fuck are dolphins accomplishing?
-_-
for mythic+ do rogues even like phial? trying to see if a rogue can give it to me lol
Why do you want it? It's not really good in M+ because it doesn't ramp up.
i don't have too many choices for trinkets atm
Idk fam it does like 2mil in m+
just coming back
In any case, that's probably a better question for the rogue discord
I'm liking phial in m+
owo
What % of your damage is it doing?
I retract my previous statement then. That's pretty solid.
Prot warrior dps tank lol
Just came back from vacation and started doing keys again.. i feel like my dmg could be much higher overall?! What are you guys roughly averaging at?
what is your damage averaging at
22-24k
that's average
Hmm :/ just seems low.. dunno what i can do to change it tbh.. what are the preferred essences? I have been playing around with vision major the last 2 Days, but it only gives around 50% avatar uptime
why would it seem low
take a monk get an extra 6-7k overall!
that's an exageration
Isnt clap Nature dmg btw?
wtf no
Some NPCs use a version of Thunder Clap that does nature damage, but all our damage is physical
fairly sure at some point it did nature damage
which is why you have relics of that old spellID on mobs
Oh well :) u learn every day
Idk, unless they changed it from physical to nature and then back to physical at some point. That'd be weird.
maybe just random mobs have it that way
look at that sweet attack timer reduction and target cap on that clap
whew lahd
afaik there are still mobs in kalimdor/eastern kingdoms that have the attack speed reduction on their TC as well
Yikes, target caps 🤢
dragons with thier 3 year long swing timers just getting rekted by that reduction
that's a few months!
and for a brief moment....we were going to get that in 8.2
RIP
Best food for raid tanking if not feasting?
Thanks
Did they hotfix Temple boss? I tried to spell refl another players cyclone strike it said i did spell refl it. But still got hit by all of them. And no i did not SF Jolt.
you can only reflect 1
don't get close up to the boss or you'll get gibbed
just back up a little and reflect
Said on the message it refl 5 of them, have normaly worked because all 5 at the same time
i think they changed it awhile back
maybe it still shows reflected but as you can see you got rekt
if you only get hit by one you won't take dmg
you can reflect more than one
but they have to hit at the same time
no, they haven't hotfixed it
re-check your logs
@frosty holly
Hello guys I am a recent lvl 120 warrior for the 1st time in my life playing melee classes 😛 I have some question since I stopped play a while ago. Is there any great guide with the best talents and gear?
check out the #268491842637660160 section
particularly, that link ☝
Also another question this is not about warrior but some people told me once I reach lvl 120 I could have my neck lvl 45/50.
No, the intro quest that gives you your first essence puts it at 35
Oh great everything is accurate right?
yep
But I dont have any quest with the champions of azeroth
If you get lucky with the 3k quest timing can get to like 40 or 41 quick
Follow the nazjatar story line and you’ll eventually go to silithus and do some quests for magni and M.O.T.H.E.R. and you’ll get boosted to 35 neck
i reflected all 5 last week @distant crystal
what do I have to have that quest?
I think just follow the major storyline quests
Just do the Nazjatar story line and it'll take you there
yeah if you see nagas, you're in the right neighborhood
Oh but now Nazjatar is not available for me 😦
The pop up quests are bug on my account
you may need to do a pre-req?
Well that sounds like you need to send in a ticket
are you a trial
blizzard already know that since legion every time I need to send a ticket for them to make the quest manually
are you trialing a warrior
just don't be toxic to your CS person like Nimchip
No
yep.
that sounds like a busted addon
that's my first thought
Even when I try without addons its an account bug already known by Blizzard]
Can't get there without doing the quest that pops up in the capital city (Dazar'alor/Boralus), so you don't have a choice.
usually you get this huge ass banner that covers 40% of your screen with the new quest
there are no "account bugs"
But they love to say we added the quest manually and you need to submit a bug
isn't there a way to manually pop that shit up
its either a bug that applies to everyone under certain conditions, or it doesn't and is caused by you
It might be in the Suggested Content pane of the Adventure Guide?
oh and um
possible ghash
no there is a way to add the quest manually
there are totally account bugs
But not likely since it's automatic
😃
blade
I will not get the pop up but I will get the quest after reload
tis a thing
but for that I need to contact them all the fucking time
shit im gonna wait for the tangent that blade will write here
Shift-J
yeah do that
Does it show up there?
nothing there I tried already
Yeah you'll have to put in a ticket then 😦
do you have a screenshot
So fresh dinged 120?
I didn't think it would be there since it's a pop-up quest
yeah 2 hours ago
alliance or horde, btw
Horde
i mean we both have to go to boats for it
go talk to ol' slick rick aka Blightcaller
No I already have 4 chars lvl 120 on this server I doubt to be the only one with 120 on this server 😛
do you have a screenshot of your dungeon journal suggested content
Let me try 😄
i want to see this
Then he will give you a quest to talk to the island exp guy
you cant blame blade, ive been a dev long enough
you know what happens 99.99% of the time
I prefer to blame Nimchip. Blade doesn't send in BS tickets and ruin CS agents' lives
you might wanna
Yep go talk to blightvaller
ahahaha
It's a patch splash screen
xD
did you like blank out your background...cuz it looks like your gpu took a shit
nah
And you can't actually do anything with it; it just advertises what's new afaik
are you in a bush?
I need to contact microsoft because the key that I bought stop work
did you build a new computer
well this is interesting
per chance/
I had to do the same thing after I changed my processor and motherboard because their stupid transition process didn't work
i suppose you talked to nathanos?
Did you get your key frkm G2A hahaha
it doesnt work cause its different hardware
if you do enough hardware changes they'll think it's a new computer.
but your windows 10 key SHOULD be tied to your microsoft account now
so you can migrate it pretty easily
I'm aware why it doesn't work. But they have a process you're supposed to be able to follow that lets you just log in on the new hardware and it is supposed to migrate your license
all it takes is a motherboard change
All I had to do was get a live support ticket going, be non-toxic, and they just remoted in, confirmed some registry stuff and activated it
does the azerite powder shot does more dmg the more players are within it?
bit confused
Done I just went to that guy that have a damn ghost quest
in FH?
thats not a ghost quest
No it doesn't. It just hits like a fucking truck on tyr
thats the weekly islands
@sand egret yeah
just hits like a truck
It can hit multiple people though; important to spread out
it is because on my quest log I dont have anything xD
Need to hit the quest i am ready to depart
its not a quest you track
its a world quest
open your map
it should have a little map icon
its basically the "fill the bar with enough island runs" quest
it's always called "azerite for x", x being your faction (the horde, the alliance)
This is like explain sex to a virgin :o
👀
FYI, your ranged should be standing max range on that boss
Because then they can't be hit by it
40 yards or they get fucked
and i get mad
because i fucking intervene you like a retard
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@sand egret yeah was having a discussion with a friend and he kept saying it does more dmg the more players stand in it
it doesn't but everyone gets hit
i know how the mechanic works just wanted to be clear with it
I guess he's technically right, in that total damage goes up, but not per individual
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Don't make it confusing Blade!
anyway back to the other guy
he meant per individual
did you understand all that @hybrid current
that was beside the point of course
also that's not nathanos, did he send you to him?
@lusty grotto yeah I am in Nazjatar right now
im...
look for the dude who looks like he's going to sell you a used coffin
Mind if I sneak in a question or two? It's about a trinket called "Merektha's Fang", which I can't seem to find comments on in guides.
No I dont have anything else
@inland ice just shoot from the hip with it
probably later in nazjatar I will unlock the rest
the icy veins guide is a defensiveness oriented guide
Awesome, because that's what I meant to ask about. I got a 440 one and the damage seems hella strong.
therefore you won't find any "dps" type trinkets there
Yeah, I know! But I wanted to preface by saying I had visited it so y'all didn't shout at me.
also you cant move while casting it
is it a channel?
also i fucking hate it and insta turn it into expulsom
It's a channel, and that's what makes me hesitate
Wtf its a sick trinket
The damage is crazy for me but I fear I'm opening myself up to punishment
pretty sure you can't block during it?
Nah you cant or it cancels it
yeah....that's gonna be a no for me dawg
Seeing a lot of mythic prot warriors using it though
here we go again
define "a lot"
And its like 10% of their damage
did you happen to see naga hide enchants too?
Well I meant more M+
just imagine that they havent gotten the better trinkets yet, cause rng drops are a thing, and rng chest drops are another thing
When used on groups the damage goes bonkers
I legit see no problem with it
But I'm wondering if it's a noobtrap
there are better
Since youl eave yourself open
that's the obvious down-side, yeah
use it if you don't have the better ones
Ive never died from using it
Nah but maybe healer has worked 200% to keep you up ehehe
it's why I'm going away from Cyclo myself
But alright, good to know.
I love the damage, but boy you can get punished during it
I've got a 430 Reaans and a 430 howler with a socket, so I reckon that's better defensively and offensively to some extent
im in the "why use cyclo when you have 445 rezan and block" club, sorry
Rez is going to be a shoe-in and Jes' can put in work
I'd prob opt for those myself, personally
yuckerinos
Pretty sure what Blade meant by "can't block during it" is that you are unable to block, not that you can't cast Shield Block without cancelling the channel (which is the case for literally every channel ever)
I just picked up a 430 jes' a couple days ago. Been using it for necrotic this week ;p
with a 430 block
I thought Rezans was hot for Prot, it ain't?
It is
it is
It's not the best anymore, but it's still great
also Nim - I hate you for having both of those trinkets
oh, it means it's an easy pick
shoe-in sort of means a sure thing
A shoe-in means a no-brainer, an easy pick
ya. Easy pick
Oh I see! I thought shoe-in was like... last minute, desperate measure
Like a salesman in the door, shoe-in, kind of thing 😛
all i say are lies
🤔 makes sense
I love when people misunderstand other countries' slang XD
but I meant it as an easy pick
It's awesome
"This expression purportedly comes from the practice of corrupt jockeys holding their horses back and shooing a preselected winner across the finish line to guarantee that it will win. A “shoo-in” is now an easy winner, with no connotation of dishonesty. “Shoe-in” is a common misspelling"
druids that go rawr, not the other kind
So you reckon it's between the Howler and the Fang then
i'd opt for Howler
I mean the party benefits from vers more, it's selfish
as much as I hate Vers in principle, Jes' is a solid boost when used right
If you can't, in fact, block with Merektha's, then it's an easy choice really
And If want dmg, giving vers to myself and others seems like more dmg in the long run
i simply put merektha in my pile of trinkets that go into expulsom along with Bandages and 
Perhaps I'll save the Fang for a week when you can do huge pulls
Or when it's teeming or somehing
Well, if you can't block during it, huge pulls are exactly when you don't want to use it.
Shockwave -> Fang seems reasonable
counter-point: that's when you'll wanna block
but yeah if you time it well
make it work
Isn't it like a 4 second channel or something?
shockwave works for it
3s
Ah
i can't argue against that
time it with a leg sweep
And I can always pop, like...
Demoralize or something
Or Shield wall
I prob would anyway right
Vs big pack
uhh but you want demo up all the time anyway
Depends on the pack I suppose
But I'm glad I've learned more
pretty sure you can't parry while casting either
it'll do damage for sure, but comes with a risk, which you can also mitigate
If blocking is disabled then dodge and parry should be as well.
Damn, it was almost there

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I like trinks that make you tihnk a bit
just Shockwave leap channel
but also
just don't use it mid pack
oh merekthas
I was thinking the channel thing from.ep
Yeah we're talking about Merektha's, not font
merekthas is an instant scrap for me
It's solid for dks. The whole two that still play that spec
True
And they aren't reliant on blocking which is really why most channeled trinkets are subpar for us: they open us up to a big defensive disadvantage
Death's Advance
I didn't know that eliminated item restrictyions also!
Prevents them from being slowed beyond 70% of their normal movement speed
What a cool spell
It's not even the spell; it's the passive from the spell
that's....funky
Like they don't actually have to cast the spell to be able to move; the passive works on its own
so the trinket isn't a pure channel?
Well isn't Merektha not an actual root? I thought it just made you move at like 10% speed
idk, tbh
Apply Aura: Decrease Run Speed % Value: -200%
unless if you're a bdk
Kinda curious if you could pre-BoF on a prot pally and have it not slow you
or if someone can BoF/Tiger's Lust you etc
Yeah
prob tbh
If DA works, can't see why those wouldn't
yeah, I can see that
bof doesn't work
it doesn't quite work the same way as DA
DA applies an aura "minimum run speed mod %"
freedom just grants immunity to snares and roots, but doesn't affect run speed mods
Gotcha
