I’m not sure at all because it doesn’t make sense for it to be different anywhere and especially doesn’t make sense to not apply whilst slows are on since obviously things like entangling roots work. It really doesn’t make sense to me
#protection
willow scarab
Maybe duels lend themselves to open world pvp rules? I wish I had and explanation, if you go clap in a bg you’ll see it apply like 99% of the time regardless of slows and DR
potent anvil
Yeah it's an odd behavior for sure. Can't tell if it's bugged or intentional at this point.
graceful cobalt
this week wich essenz pref for m+
visual agate
What are yall stacking for Azerite traits for M+? Is triple bastion/deafening good?
undone sun
stacking dc isn't that good anymore
visual agate
3 bastion/ 1 dc? Any what others should I go for? The guide says only 1 dc but I see people running triple bastion and 2-3 dc
undone sun
guide is defense oriented, logs are offense. but even then it's just still using what was "meta" last season
visual agate
what do you recommend for this season? I didn't play at all s2.
tawny maple
@visual agate stack BoM and atleast 1 DC
spice ferry
triple BoM, 1x DC + 1IF and 1 whatever probably
small flicker
is crushing reverb supposed to be solo'd or can we just ignore pain it?
on mythic btw
crisp spruce
You can solo it easily enough, although my guild just has DPS stack in it. It doesn't hit that hard.
small flicker
yeah my guilds tank has been dying to it which is horrifying in and of itself..i told them i can tank but we dont have a dps replacement
willow scarab
You can solo it with a personal CD but it's not like it's a small hit
Just move ontop of the mele and the issue is gone
hallow phoenix
mystic whale
So, tonight I got 430 edict, 430 bloody urchin and 450 chain of suffering
and 420 diamond trinket is still beating every single one of them
is this normal
tawny maple
@mystic whale What do you mean "beat them"
mystic whale
more absorb over the fight
tawny maple
What content
mystic whale
well, heroic azshara and the 3 first bosses on mythic
tawny maple
yeah Diamond will perform better because Edicts needs time to scale
Idk about urchin I havent used it enough but it feels meh
mystic whale
chain of suffering is shit, wasnt able to make it work
shame it titanforged to 450, of all things
willow scarab
@potent anvil I think it's actually broken right now
It's not applying the snare over sphere of supression slow
in a bg
tawny maple
Yeah chain of suffering sucks
potent anvil
That's what I was saying. Sphere's slow which is 30%, makes it so thunderstruck doesn't apply.
pallid berry
yo is a 430 mchimbas ritual bandages beat a 440 alchemist stone?
potent anvil
@willow scarab But this happens with any slow that's 30% or greater.
warm plinth
@pallid berry Absolutely not. There's really not much that WON'T beat a bandages
warm plinth
And alc stone is actually pretty strong for us
pallid berry
alright
willow scarab
You use to spam an annoying snare on top of all the slows hapepning
pallid berry
worse then a 430 urchin?
warm plinth
Yes
charred wave
Are there any situations in which the Naga Hide weapon enchant is better than the Versatile Navigation?
spice ferry
should be using force multiplier anyway
charred wave
That makes more sense than the Naga Hide
Why is AMR so hot for me to use Versatile Navigation?
charred wave
What should i be using instead?
onyx vessel
Use #protection for your prot issues
sick sentinel
is anyone using edict of the faithless?
tawny maple
@sick sentinel not in raids
waxen cradle
A question for ya guys I am seeing a lot of Prot Warriors running Devastator now. Is it really competitive with Booming Voice ?
spice ferry
devastator is bis for ST dps
so you'll see it alot in logs
BV is better defensively, and for aoe dps
waxen cradle
So in other words what you would see in raid comparative to what you will see in M+ as well most raid fights favor ST dps as per well every raid
spice ferry
pretty much. BV is no doubt the go to pick for m+
onyx vessel
Rarely tank deaths early in raids so you can pump the dps rip off your cotank tilt him
forest fern
Have an azerite ring with callous reprisal and ruinous bolt on it, ilvl of this piece makes it an upgrade regardless. What would be the best of what i assume are both crappy options? Will be for raiding specifically.
spice ferry
Probably ruinous?
Callous is the revenge damage reduction trait ain’t it? I suck at names
forest fern
yeah, but as is suggested it pretty impossible to keep it up enough in a single target rich environment, hence my dilema. I have no experience with ruinous to judge anything, i know it had a major issue of pulling unwanted mobs from range, but i'm a tank and i believe that bug has been fixed now anyway so who knows
spice ferry
I ran it most of s2, rarely if ever did it ever pull
It definitely didn’t pull enough to stress over it
forest fern
k good to know, i guess the issue is purely dps, does it do more dps average than one might do with revenge hitting a little harder across an average fight
since callous gives revenge like 700 extra damage as a "token" addition to the trait beyond its defensive buff
spice ferry
Just sim it I guess?
mint imp
yeah sim it but for raiding, which is mostly ST i would go for bolt
forest fern
yeah figured as much, thanks for the advice, i guess its the world we live in when ilvl is king so much, have to accept lackluster traits
mint imp
I think blizz is just trying to make it easier for beginners though
forest fern
true but i think its just more of a tank thing in general right, you definitely hear of dps roles taking 20 and 30ilvl drops just for certain traits
strong forum
Dps do that yes, but tanks don't
forest fern
oh yeah i'm not saying its two very different worlds to justify it, it just makes azerite traits even more boring than they sort of were from inception i guess when they matter even less. I mean its the issue with the system in general as has been since the start
spice ferry
You’d feel worse if they mattered so much you had to have xyz traits to perform remotely well
Not saying this is great, but the alternative is probably worse
strong forum
Well, we can be happy that we have a ton of traits that revolve around increasing dmg, unlike vdh bdk and monk
Where their traits have little to no impact
spice ferry
Dk traits are literally pointless
You actively avoid them entirely when you can, no exceptions 😦
strong forum
Bonespike graveyard could be cool if it had a better animation and actually did damage
Like, it literally needs a buff by like 1000% to do anything
mint imp
prot warrior have best dps traits, no doubt
rapid tide
I kinda didn't want to believe the Blood DK thing.
But after looking through guides and sims it's really the case.
Uff.
That's a yikes 😄
ionic fern
A big unfortunate yikes.
spice ferry
Yeh I’m not even slightly over exaggerating haha
random urchin
Yeah, pretty much every BDK trait needs an overhaul to be worth picking.
Marrowblood or w/e it is clearly is meant to boost your self heals... at max stacks it’s what, 2k extra?
weary thorn
overclock card for the big hasterino, or cyclo for the deeps?
mint imp
farm rezan
random urchin
Rezan trink makes me sad. I’ve never seen it drop.
weary thorn
I mean, sure I can farm rezan. But I already have the 1200 overclock. I'm not sweating needing even more haste
exotic spoke
I don’t think cyclo is worth anymore for m+
Maybe on tyrannical weeks -but it just doesn’t feel like it does enough
weary thorn
fair
exotic spoke
I assume it’s for my?
mint imp
yeah and have not seen punchcard more than 415ilvl so 430 trinkets will be better most likely
exotic spoke
M+ * that you’re asking
weary thorn
not always kobris
and yea riki, centered more around m+ for that question. I'll use other shit in EP
exotic spoke
I mean my pc is like 420 so the damage is scaled up
weary thorn
wont be cyclo'ing thiccvane while tanking
weary thorn
I could always give it a whirl
I'll wait till I have something to take pcd's place if I remove the overclock
exotic spoke
Though I’m trying to find the right balance for mythic ashvane.
exotic spoke
Doesn’t hit too hard. Probably just use offensive trinkets / essences and not change traits / talents
weary thorn
maybe I'll get one on HC clear tonight
wispy plume
Yeah riki if you have a decent shield and stuff you can probably go full offensive
exotic spoke
Its good single target burst damage which is what’s required on ashvane
wispy plume
I run full offensive with reck fury and shit and it’s fine
weary thorn
I run dps essences too. Have a 440 shield
exotic spoke
445 shield club boys
wispy plume
Yeah we 3 healed it and 3 tanked prog. We 2 tank now
exotic spoke
Monk and me on boss. Bdk soaks
wispy plume
Yeah same set up as us on prog
exotic spoke
I’ve had all of 20 pulls on her at most
weary thorn
had 3 hours on her on monday
wispy plume
Gotcha. Yeah I ran cyclo and rezans. And full offensive traits with dev lol
weary thorn
same
wispy plume
We still do heroic each week for ink pods and corals
weary thorn
although I think we will be keeping a lockout past the first wing after tonight
exotic spoke
Yeah pretty much. Also our dps dk needs weapons. We haven’t seen 1 handed weapons drop
exotic spoke
And last weekend we ran like 15 m+! For him with as stacked a group as we could
No weapons
sick sentinel
didnt know frost was still a thing thought it was unholy all the way 🙂
nvm just seen
exotic spoke
He does decently - and while I’m in a mythic guild we aren’t super competitive
That time has passed. We did it before and just want to see the content now with whatever is most fun
sick sentinel
frost
exotic spoke
Had a world top ~30 kill on end bosses before but that was a different time
sick sentinel
how is this dude doing like 5k more dps than the number 2 parse? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/qcdx4CjzBRZVwfAm#fight=5&type=damage-done&source=63
@mint imp punchcards can titanforge
wispy plume
Did you look at his gear @sick sentinel
wispy plume
He has full benthic he has zaqul weapon 445 ink pod
sick sentinel
so?
wispy plume
He full procced almost every null barried
And 3 times reck fury
What do you mean so lol
brittle owl
also he just came off of avatar
brittle owl
kill times
wispy plume
...
brittle owl
look at his avatar
the fight ended with him in it
don't underestimate the importance of timing
also he played well
it's not a "lucky" parse
he literally had the perfect kill timing
exotic spoke
If it’s a faster kill it also makes a difference because hero has a larger %
brittle owl
^
wispy plume
That and he probably had good shield slam resets, but it wasn’t anything out of the ordinary
wispy plume
Exactly what I just said lol
exotic spoke
#humblebrag
wispy plume
Because I already inspected you 😛
willow scarab
Perfect benthic, basically perfect Azerite, zaqul wep, 445 inkpod. Nobody is beating those logs for a while, he’s also 65 neck
So everything the others said
wispy plume
Yep exactly
willow scarab
But also the 65 neck
willow scarab
65 neck means more value on shoulder traits from 450 shoulder s
wispy plume
Not really. I took like a 2 week break and I’m almost 62 lol
willow scarab
And conflict rank 3 extra minor
exotic spoke
Just AP clear every day, and fill in with some islands
exotic spoke
I’m close to 63 and I stopped clearing AP a while ago.
wispy plume
Yeah like I didn’t do it for 2 weeks and I’m close to 62
sick sentinel
im 20% 63 and ive done every azerite wq since patch launch
willow scarab
Clearly not
wispy plume
Yeah definitely not lol
sick sentinel
pretty sure i have
sick sentinel
I take time out of my day to clear all world quests every day
wispy plume
Without island farming
sick sentinel
yeah i havent island farmed
wispy plume
Read what I said lol
exotic spoke
Yeah I doubt you have because there are some quests with really short up times in Nazjatar
willow scarab
I earn 150k AP a week and you’re working on a level that only takes 80k to complete
Like you obviously missed some
sick sentinel
I didnt though
exotic spoke
And I conquest capped + island capped every week and was smart about how I did my turn ins
willow scarab
Faction assaults are important and I rarely miss them
exotic spoke
Like, Sunday / Monday caches aren’t turned in until Tuesday. Plus rep caches plus the island mission
cinder pasture
All I know is I get 1 neck level per week ;P
strong forum
Also can't stick to a single avatar, you been changing on the daily brudda
exotic spoke
Plus warfront quests
exotic spoke
I easily get 30-40% of a level on Tuesday
wispy plume
Yeah I mean I’m almost 62 and didn’t do any ap for 2 weeks. And I don’t even farm all the quests now. So it’s quite impossible to have done every quest and be 63
strong forum
Tfw I don't have to do a single WQ anymore. FeelsGoodMan, only gonna do ap emissary and island cap
Full on comf
vivid quail
Hi quick question, Concentrate flame effect by Avatar?
sick sentinel
no
sick sentinel
ye
vivid quail
any tips on using concentrate flame? or just spam when off cd
sick sentinel
prety much
exotic spoke
Don’t overlap the debuff
rapid tide
Don't heal yourself with it.
exotic spoke
Once you get rank 3 you do not want to use them back to back
wispy plume
Yeah don’t smash 2 on pull
exotic spoke
But hit it, wait for debuff to fall off, hit it and then basically on CD
wispy plume
Wait for the debuff and then his another
vivid quail
ok thx
exotic spoke
It doesn’t. It overwrites it
sand egret
lame
hoping it'd be sneaky like Sigil of Flame
and say fuck it to wow dot conventions
exotic spoke
And you have to be careful about it because overwriting a 1 doesn’t feel as bad (through its not good). But say you want to save up charges for a burst phase coming and you overwrite a 3 with a 1
exotic spoke
The dot applied from the active cast
sand egret
does that stack with the minor part?
exotic spoke
Yes
sand egret
OH
exotic spoke
And the minor stacks
sand egret
gotcha
that makes more sense
so if you have a 3 stack rolling and cast the major...it goes down to a 1?
what happens if you get a minor proc when you have 3 stacks?
exotic spoke
No, I was referring only to the dot from the active cast of the major.
The minor is entirely different to my knowledge
sand egret
Oh, so I guess I'm confused what you originally meant by "overwrite a 3 with a 1"
west kayak
The dot from the major and minor are different.
exotic spoke
Youget stacks. Your first cast is the base level. Second cast does more damage. Third cast does the most damage
Then it cycles
sand egret
3 stacks of the buff
west kayak
Minor: Anicent Flame, Major: Concentrated
exotic spoke
So - id like a second opinion
If you are a sensitive person (nothing wrong with it)- and you saw a discord channel labeled “... meme’s - enter at your own risk” and marked as NSFW
Would you enter the chat channel?
sand egret
If i was self-aware by that fact, prob not.
exotic spoke
It’s in discord - so if you click on the Channel it’ll give you the name and then warn you it’s marked nsfw before you see anything
sand egret
that's pretty obvious, imho
like, that's a standard UX flow for "mature content" on anything I've worked on
a) messaging b) user-acknowledgement etc.
exotic spoke
Ok, so say you did do that and there was so admittedly fucked up things there
Would you then freak out gquit - call everyone super offensive assholes for having that channel and immediately block the person you just whispered?
Conveniently after we just carried them through heroic and then normal for evaluation?
wispy plume
LOL
weary thorn
yes absolutely
exotic spoke
Rofl
wispy plume
That’s fantastic
weary thorn
I will not have your filth infiltrate my eyes. I cannot be held accountable for my own actions
so I will hold you accountable
for my actions
exotic spoke
It’s our general “catch all” channel for fucked up shit.
A guild member got shot in the face years ago - with bird shot at point blank range
This past year had some health problems and went to doctor / got xrays. Posted the x rays thetr
weary thorn
so your guild member got dick cheney'd
wispy plume
We had an officer get shot point blank in the face with a shotgun one night. He was sitting in the dark and got ambushed when he pulled up to a call. Luckily it was birdshot
So they just pulled it out of his head and chest. None went in his eyes
exotic spoke
Yeah, someone was robbing his house - pulled out his weapon. Turned the corner and all he remembers was “bang” basically
Yeah our guy lost an eye
wispy plume
He was pretty messed up with PTSD after that though
weary thorn
I think these people shooting others with bird shot don't understand that bird shot isnt meant to fuck up the meat
and therefore isnt that useful against people
unless they really don't want to go down for murder on a robbery
exotic spoke
They probably don’t know any better or ^^
weary thorn
possibly
weary thorn
I've heard stories of home owners using rock salt shells for home defense so they wouldnt get hit with manslaughter during a home defense
wispy plume
Their intent is to harm, but generally uneducated and just think “shotgun big boom”
analog swift
@exotic spoke legit had someone trial for my guild, say "you should really make it so not everyone can see the NSFW channel"
wispy plume
Yeah fuck that. Someone comes in my house they are eating hollow points
weary thorn
hit em with that 147 grain 9 milli boys
exotic spoke
They have to opt into it.
Fuck people are idiots
weary thorn
^
wispy plume
Yeah I got 180grain 40
And 124 gain 9
exotic spoke
It’s funny. That person wants to raid mythic.
Well on a dead server where we are the only real mythic guild - guess what? They aren’t raiding mythic unless they transfer off server now
exotic spoke
And in my experience - a lot of mythic guilds have channels like that
wispy plume
Yeah my home defense is my 40 generally. My 9 is a micro carry for appendix carry
weary thorn
my guild has a semi nsfw disco channel called "cute boys and cute girls doing cute things"
exotic spoke
Where if you want to be a degenerate - you can and it’s separate from guild chat
weary thorn
sometimes not so cute
exotic spoke
Lol
wispy plume
180 grain HP .40 stops people in their tracks
weary thorn
yea I've just got a lot of 9x19 platforms, and dont need to add a 4th calibre to my armory
wispy plume
Yeah it’s not worth lol.
weary thorn
9mm, 5.56, and 7.62 are enough to keep track of
weary thorn
makes sense
sand egret
Yeah, the only other "solution" would be an opt-in private channel...I guess. But like....that's like buying a HOT coffee...spilling it on yourself because you went at it barehanded...then blaming the person who gave you the HOT coffee
granted that's the exact same lawsuit that McD's lost...
but 'Murcia
weary thorn
not the exact same
exotic spoke
It was marked in the title. It was marked as nsfw in discord
We’ll blade that’s not true
exotic spoke
McDs was because the coffee was way to fucking hot
weary thorn
the ruling party gave her more money
exotic spoke
Like - unsafe levels of hot
sand egret
the premise was that she was unaware of the temperature,
weary thorn
3rd degree burns over most of her upper legs and vagina
did a law study on it
otherwise I wouldnt know
exotic spoke
I think the premise was that she was served coffee significantly hotter than it should have been and that she was aware of
Which is different than spilling a cup of coffee on myself due to negligence
weary thorn
now
if she had been asked if she wanted to spill said coffee
and then agreed to spill it
and then burned the shit out of herself
I'd agree
exotic spoke
Was she told it was hotter than it should have been?
final basin
The McDonald's coffee case is a famous study for that type of lawsuit. People think it was frivolous but it absolutely was not
exotic spoke
Like given complete knowledge of the situation
sand egret
she wasn't told it was "hot" at all
weary thorn
choutou, I studied it in business law, thats why I remember it
super gnarly burns too
exotic spoke
I believe it.
It’s like you assume “x” risks but when it was significantly higher than “x” due to mis use that’s where the problem came from
final basin
I spend too much time with lawyer friends, its come up a few times. They studied it as well
weary thorn
and she was elderly, and couldnt move quick enough to avoid burning on the underside of her legs
so she sat in burning coffee
final basin
Iirc that store had their machines cranked up to nuclear temps, well above recommended settings
exotic spoke
As an overly simplified version and yeah that’s choutou that’s what I remember
sand egret
well then, what if the content of your channel is analgous to "super hot temps" of "NSFW" material
weary thorn
its an interesting case because of how much she asked for, versus how much she was awarded in pain/suffering by the court
final basin
I thought the punitive dmgs was awarded by jury?
exotic spoke
Potential Blade - but it’s something you’re entirely opting into - that’s marked in several cases - and that you have to scroll through and could stop at any point
final basin
In my mind NSFW on the internet could mean anything from a lady showing off her ankles to a family raping animal corpses and everything in between
sand egret
sure, but slapping a NSFW on just anything...
final basin
So if youre gonna opt in...
sand egret
its a similar type of degree (just playing devil's advocate here0
exotic spoke
The title of the channel also says “enter at your own risk”
Like I shit you not. That’s what I made the title
weary thorn
I'd say if you opt in, you are waiving your right to be offended by any content found therein
final basin
Agreed
exotic spoke
weary thorn
or rather, you can be offended, but I wont give a shit
pretty straight forward warning
sand egret
you'd think but is there a degree of material that exceeds that level of opt in
exotic spoke
I don’t even know what they saw. I didn’t do the offnight normal run that they quit after
weary thorn
lmao
you know that dude that quit probably whacks it in the dark to some weird shit, and didnt want to be near others who might share the same kinks, lest he be exposed
final basin
Lol
sand egret
yeah i mean temperatures go to a point that are "too hot" that exceed the standard "hot" warnings. I'm posturing that there could be a level of content that requires even more explicit warnings
wispy plume
Nah. When you opt in a to something you basically waive your right on whatever is on the other side.
She didn’t opt into nuclear hot coffee
exotic spoke
I will admit - there is fucked up shit in there at times. But you know what - I either scroll past it or don’t look
It’s a repository for a cesspool and I have no pity on those who enter
sand egret
but NSFW is pretty open
weary thorn
I mean, don't go to liveleak expecting to not see chinese vehicle related deaths
wispy plume
Blade read the warning
sand egret
you working with kiddos?
exotic spoke
Look at the title too though Blade. How much clearer can I be?
sand egret
Hmm
exotic spoke
Literally “enter at your own risk”
sand egret
well if i didn't know "morde"
final basin
My guild has a NSFW channel and when one dude is posting I just don't go in there
sand egret
i don't really know what that means
final basin
Because I know it's gonna be gross
weary thorn
If any weebs in here used to watch anime on masterani.me then you'll know that their 18+ nsfw discord can get pretty rancid
I treat it like that
wispy plume
Blade I’m telling you that it wouldn’t hold up. It says enter at your own risk. It also says it’s fucked up you have been warned
weary thorn
I may need eye bleach, but its my fault
exotic spoke
Though if you know Morde you’d know it’s also possible cancer
And yeah he’s a weeb too
sand egret
I mean, there IS some sort of implicit knowledge needed here (again, I think it's pretty clear, but I'm just playing devil's advocate here)
final basin
It seems to me like anyone visiting that channel would have reasonable knowledge of the person morde from playing with him
sand egret
well this case is a new trial, if i'm not mistaken
exotic spoke
He doesn’t play any more but he’s still brought up in the topic of conversation about hisnfucked up shit
Frequently
And the trial has been here for two weeks
sand egret
¯_(ツ)_/¯
exotic spoke
I’m just providing information blade
wispy plume
In my experience from multiple cases and being sued multiple times.
final basin
It also seems to me that nowadays anyone on the internet has a reasonable knowledge of what you might see when clicking on things that warn you it's fucked up. Its not like opening a people magazine
wispy plume
It wouldn’t hold up
sand egret
again, not saying you're in the wrong
wispy plume
I got sued for arresting someone the other day
exotic spoke
Like - what else should I do to warn people within reason
Add “Literal cesspool” at the end?
sand egret
just that there could be interpretations on this that don't align with your intention, is all
final basin
Riki, you'd have to have a disclaimer written by an attorney if you really wanted to cover your bases
sand egret
"This channel is extremely offensive", maybe?
do they have to click a thing to enter it? like a yes/no thing
final basin
"might" be extremely offensive
exotic spoke
Lol, fair enough choutou. But I wouldn’t want to subject such an upstanding person to the content that is potentially contained in that channel
final basin
I'm offended that you think I'd be offended by this take stuff
exotic spoke
I can invite you and you can look for yourself lol
I don’t really go in there too frequently.
Especially when someone says “you should check it out”
final basin
Oh I'm just joking about someone being offended by being told they'd be offended 😅
weary thorn
thats like the commercial where the trash panda is eating shit and its awful, then tells the other trash panda to try it
sand egret
but I think you did some diligence on it
if there isn't a modal to explicitly opt-in/out in addition to that, i'd say add it
final basin
You can mark it explicit, NSFW, you're not responsible for hurt feelings, whatever I guess
exotic spoke
I just found the situation funny / interesting
exotic spoke
Like - at what point are you just an idiot
sand egret
tis the internet
dreamy trench
why does the simulated damage breakdown show so much melee damage?
jaunty aspen
Hi quick question -> does anyone know if the blacksmith belt rolls into haste+mastery stats? crafted 23 now and no such stat roll. Gonna go insane
jaunty aspen
Well then i would get 49 percent mastery compared to 43ish with another rolled belt and i dont want to go under 22 percent haste solo
wispy plume
Why are you trying to stack mastery?
dreamy trench
that's a lot of mastery
jaunty aspen
Stackin versatility doesnt seem right
lethal plaza
m+ god
wispy plume
Crit haste is better for damage
And haste vers is better for survivability
Mastery is pretty bad in all regards
jaunty aspen
Well i am forced to go gear full survival
wispy plume
Why’s that?
jaunty aspen
Versatilyinfeela underwhelming
wispy plume
And if so you should be worried about haste more than anything and vers secondary
jaunty aspen
Feels
dreamy trench
noone is stacking mastery
wispy plume
The only reason it’s good for BoM is because the amount of mastery and that we get it in avatar. And that’s strictly for the dps
jaunty aspen
Ok could you explain more in detail why mastery is thrash
wispy plume
Stacking haste/crit and haste/vers is going to yield much higher results
The overall attack power isn’t good compared to any other stat.
You don’t need extra chance to block. You have shield block and last stand with bolster
Crit block while nice IS NOT worth stacking anything for it
jaunty aspen
Or better shall i post an armory link so you can take a look doing all recently by gut feeling gear wise since simming stopp being useful
wispy plume
That’s fine. But I’m going to just look at it and tell you try and get rid of all your mastery lol
The only mastery pieces I have are 450 boots and 455 hands
And that’s strictly because of the ilvl
wispy plume
Don’t run blood sport
Don’t run carapace
Don’t run ablative
Dude every piece you have
jaunty aspen
Well last time i did the vers route was at the start of legion and my heals told its no good since the i go mastery
wispy plume
Has mastery on it
lethal plaza
3 BoM might as well go for crit/haste
wispy plume
Reroll your pieces to crit/hast or haste/vers
Change both your rings
And start getting other armor pieces without mastery
random urchin
Who cares what your heals said. Vers is both a damage buff and gives extra dmg reduc(not a lot but still some)
wispy plume
What are you other trinkets?
That’s my gear at the moment
My trinkets change between inkpod/edict/butchers block
jaunty aspen
Sec will tell
random urchin
I just started gearing and my prot has 15%. I need way more haste/crit at the moment.
15% vers*
wispy plume
Like the ONLY mastery I have
random urchin
Having an ele sham main I’m pretty used to avoiding mastery at all costs lol
random urchin
Yep, ideally only mastery you have is from your neck
wispy plume
Things like my 450 shield has mastery my weapon has mastery and my high titanforged hands and boots have mastery
If I could get rid of any of those I would
All of my crafted things are haste crit. All of my sockets are haste or crit. Running more crit this week for parry on necrotic stacks
jaunty aspen
Got inkpod vision idol phial everchill anchor rage lurkers rezan but only 400
wispy plume
Do you have any 430 trinkets?
jaunty aspen
Vision 440 phial 430 inkpod 430 and big red button 430
wispy plume
Also did you see what I said about your azerite
Get rid of bloodsport don’t run carapace don’t run ablative
jaunty aspen
Read it what shall i pick instead
warm plinth
What the shit is going on in here
warm plinth
Why are you all telling him to "reroll his stats"
wispy plume
He is intentionally rolling mastery
Over other stats on the premise that it’s the best for survivability
warm plinth
Alright but don't tell him to reroll his stats. Just tell him the correct priority and he can change over as he increases his ilevel; it's still not going to be worth dropping ilevel to correct it.
warm plinth
But you didn't tell him not to either, and people get confused
random urchin
Well yeah, not telling him to scrap his gear and start over.
wispy plume
What are you on about?
I said reroll crafted pieces
And explained that my only mastery was due to the fact that I have to wear it
random urchin
Just that going for mastery above all else isn’t good. Crafted stuff can be remade easily now
jaunty aspen
Well lucky for me i have a shittin of gear in bags still
jaunty aspen
I did save a crit hast and a haste vers one
wispy plume
I would use one of the two of those. If you don’t care about damage vers one. If you do then crit one
Are you at your computer? If so screen shot your azerite
I’m on my phone so it’s kind of annoying for me to look at the traits
Or just DM me so we aren’t spamming people
jaunty aspen
Iam will try to get the screen in disc never did that before
sand egret
windows key + shift + S
crop it > tab over to disc and cntrl + v
and boom uploaded screen shot
wispy plume
That’s a hype hot key
hybrid current
Hello everyone I would like to know if you guys can help me with some questions about prot warrior.
lunar jackal
so has anyone checked if dynamo removes necro?
exotic spoke
What questions do you have doctor
@lunar jackal i haven’t - but I’d have to use nullification as a major and that’s not happening
We typically don’t really care about necrotic
red wedge
It does not. Necro debuff is a physical bleed.
The application is magic, so you can AMS it.. But you can't remove it unless you're dorf.
exotic spoke
I have another solution Racial
red wedge
wazzat
exotic spoke
If everything’s dead you magically drop the stacks too
red wedge
The more you know 🌈
red wedge
I am too.. but my guild is doing mythic tonight again. Although.. Our BRM rage quit last night.
Pretty sure he's just been wanting to quit, but for whatever reason, needed to create a dramatic scene to do so.
exotic spoke
Oof. And yeah we’re doing mythic tonight. My RDruid is out so we’re grabbing a filler healer and then really pushing on Sunday
red wedge
Nice
exotic spoke
3 hours of ashvane fun...
red wedge
Weekend pushes are usually better.
Yea. My guild is on ashvane too. This will be their 2nd full night of attempts.
exotic spoke
We don’t get them very frequently. Usually 2-3 hours post raid
red wedge
I think they got it to 70% ish last night?
exotic spoke
I mean sure - I’m at work so my responses may be delayed
There are lots of other great prot wars here too
elder isle
what u guys think ? cyclotronic over 430 rezan + socket ?
sand egret
gottem
exotic spoke
For what content angryspike
sand egret
hmmm cyclo is big dam, but my romance with it has been short-lived.
elder isle
mythic content ofc , but my sim just poped up and its a huge drop so
sand egret
mythic.....plus? raids?
elder isle
my cyclotronic is 430 tho so dps-wise , my question was dumb sorry
sand egret
not sure what "ofc" is referring to
exotic spoke
Mythic + or mythic raid
elder isle
raid , sorry lads for not stating it correctly
exotic spoke
Also, for parsing it’s likely cyclo in mythic raids
sand egret
at 430 that's a big ol' lazer
lusty grotto
What up it's lunch time
exotic spoke
But you’d have to sim yourself - if that’s what you’re looking for
If you want a blend of survivability and dps rezans
sand egret
i just watched a bear doing +20 keys spam IF on the last boss in ML so honestly feeling pretty good about myself, @lusty grotto
exotic spoke
It’ll depend on what you need for your situation
elder isle
whatchu run for minor @exotic spoke VoP or Null
exotic spoke
In mythic plus and mythic raid it’s VoP. I fucked up and don’t have rank 3 null. I get it tonight if lucky and tomorrow if not.
So right now it’s only VoP.
Cause I do shit and things nim.
lusty grotto
Negative
Nimchy asks when is gear up nimchy time, I told her to shut her trap cause shes a dirty homeless alliance
exotic spoke
I can’t believe that’s how you treat nimchy.
lusty grotto
Excuse me, I'm an orx
exotic spoke
@elder isle when I go for dps in mythic I use CoF / VoP, dps trinket + cyclo
Orx eh?
Dafuq is that?
vast sedge
@sand egret wouldn’t he want to do that for some dmg with layered mane trait?
lusty grotto
Yes with an x, due to being gender non binary
exotic spoke
swear to god. I will murder you if I see you in Wpvp
But that would require me to do WQ and shit
lusty grotto
I am offended
exotic spoke
So it ain’t happening
sand egret
@vast sedge not vs the trade-off
lusty grotto
Can 🗞 you 🗞 bears 🗞 get 🗞 back 🗞 into 🗞 dg
sand egret
can you finish delivering those newpapers?
lusty grotto
I'm not done delivering them to your bear snouts
sand egret
people need their news
sand egret
maul over swipe, for starters
celest robin
What do you guys prefer running as a combo in m+?
I mean, Visions is nice, but I can't decide on minor
sand egret
but anywho neither here nor there
vast sedge
This channel stale af who care if we talk bear for a sec
lusty grotto
I swap between null r3 and lucid
vast sedge
I guess that’s true maul over swipes
vast sedge
Still such a small difference
sand egret
not with that attitude!
lusty grotto
Hold the fuck on 🗞
exotic spoke
Lol
lusty grotto
🗞 🗞 🗞 🗞 🗞 🗞
sand egret
lol
exotic spoke
I mean you’re not wrong. But it also isn’t the right place
Though we do get off topic frequently
lusty grotto
Your loss @celest robin
lusty grotto
No
sand egret
at r3 its the damage
sand egret
null r3 as a minor is a noticable amount of damage
lusty grotto
Rep
sand egret
if you're poppin int
exotic spoke
Nullification is a large dps gain if you can reliably proc it.
lusty grotto
And you could mail to bnet accounts
elder isle
swapin VoP for Null - is it a big cooldown difference ? Do u guys actually feel it ?
sick sentinel
Very little reason to do that
lusty grotto
Bro I don't use null as. A major
sick sentinel
Riki no
sick sentinel
That's literally the worse course of action to that question
exotic spoke
I think he means as a minor
sick sentinel
@elder isle are you talking minors?
lusty grotto
And there's only 2 or 3 dungeons that are worth swapping into it anyway
elder isle
sure , minors
exotic spoke
There is no reason to use null as a major
sick sentinel
Ya, okay then
lusty grotto
Correct
sick sentinel
What's your goal
exotic spoke
So, is my answer back to being correct if the goal is maximizing dps at the cost of survivability
elder isle
Do more dmg , I aint got no problem with survivval
sick sentinel
Since the blast from null is spread among targets hit
And it's not increased for each one
So it's static damage
elder isle
but its good for ST too no ?
graceful cobalt
wich essenz i should take as Tank for M+.i have Vision of Perfection rank 2 shere (pvp) rank 2 resonance of world rank 3 flam rank 3 anima of life rank3
lusty grotto
Are you serious
sick sentinel
Null minor is the highest dps minor for single target
elder isle
@sick sentinel got 2 BoMs atm so should I prefer VoP for minor or null for minor
vast sedge
@graceful cobalt VoP major and sphere or cof minor
sick sentinel
@graceful cobalt literally read
elder isle
or how should I achieve the answer ?
sick sentinel
ST or mplus
lusty grotto
This is not a feelcraft channel
graceful cobalt
if i should farm rank 3 for spehre
lusty grotto
So feels, no
vast sedge
He’s asking how it feels
Like as in flow of the spec
So I told him since you guys gave him the numerical answer
sick sentinel
@graceful cobalt look at what rank 3 sphere does for the minor
and see for yourself
vast sedge
swapin VoP for Null - is it a big cooldown difference ? Do u guys actually feel it ?
@lusty grotto
????
lusty grotto
The fuck dude I'm not answering that
vast sedge
Actual sperg
wise rivet
hey guys, does Edicts of the Faithless get affected by necrotic stacks?
lusty grotto
Yes
stoic pilot
Ya it’s poop this week
vast sedge
You literally never addressed his last question of how should he achieve his results
stoic pilot
Try to run a butchers block
vast sedge
Actually confusing as hell
wise rivet
aight, thank you
lusty grotto
Meekuh r u preggo
stoic pilot
Food baby
lusty grotto
Best baby, but only if twin with beer
stoic pilot
My body has a hard time handling alcohol since I was an idiot when I was younger lol
lusty grotto
Oh, sorry
stoic pilot
Nah it’s fine I wish I could enjoy beer and stuff again
lusty grotto
Alcohol is for degenerates
warm plinth
You insensitive prick hi Nim
lusty grotto
Smh this ghash
exotic spoke
warm plinth
Lolol
exotic spoke
Too slow
lusty grotto
Have there been any Naga hide or RF questions today?
exotic spoke
At least you didn’t go into a clearly marked NSFW channel in disc, then gquit because you’re upset over what was posted in there and call everyone in the guild assholes
lusty grotto
Holy shit haha
exotic spoke
I’m not kidding
lusty grotto
Bro I would laugh
exotic spoke
Conveniently after we trialed them in heroic and they came to normal on the offnight
They want to raid mythic - guess they are server transferring now if they still want to
warm plinth
Were they good in heroic?
exotic spoke
Meh, workable I think
lusty grotto
Nimchy trial when
exotic spoke
Not the one I beat in dps
warm plinth
Lol well that’s something
exotic spoke
When you transfer to my server and join guild
lusty grotto
But my rule on not giving Activision more money :,(
warm plinth
You can buy it with gold
warm plinth
Only sets you back like 5%
lusty grotto
Poor nimchy
lusty grotto
But I suppose I could make a mage
warm plinth
Make something Kul Tiran. Do it.
warm plinth
There really isn’t one
lusty grotto
Nimchyjrx
stoic pilot
I had my druid KT for like 2 weeks
haymaker is so absurd as a knockback it's hilarious
I punched an enchanted emissary and it fell through the floor
warm plinth
KT are bae. Only race better than dorf.
stoic pilot
after it flew back like 30 feet
exotic spoke
Basically what they sent - removed name for anonymity:
So that xxxxxxx just whispered me that we're all assholes and she thinks it's super offensive that we talk and joke about stuff in disc all the time, specifically Morde's meme channel and then gquit.
warm plinth
I haven’t had time to watch yet. I did keys last night and can’t watch at work because it’s on Twitch
warm plinth
You all need to upload your shit to YouTube so I can avoid work easier
exotic spoke
Who!
lusty grotto
Block twitch and not youtube
lusty grotto
Do the bosses watch stuff on YouTube or something
exotic spoke
Oh, I haven’t streamed much. Maybe I’ll do it tonight as I cry about ashvane to myself
warm plinth
Maybe
oblique garnet
🤔
warm plinth
Hi Late 👋
exotic spoke
Probably because YouTube can be useful for guides and learning
warm plinth
Yeah there’s actually a video on YouTube I use during my training
lusty grotto
Late have there been any rf questions today?
modern brook
????
oblique garnet
Idk i have been busy
modern brook
its casue youtube is owned by google
lusty grotto
Oh shit fam is the gang back together again? Where's Kaege and yamo
warm plinth
Also twitch itself isn’t blocked. Just the video player.
exotic spoke
Kaege was here a little bit ago
warm plinth
Like I can go to twitch and look around but no video or pictures load
lusty grotto
Hmmm the video player you say
warm plinth
Videos are just black
lusty grotto
Hmm interesting
exotic spoke
At least no questions about a dead spec today.....
warm plinth
Have you guys heard of glad spec? We should do that for raid DPS
lusty grotto
Is Amazon blocked ghash?
oblique garnet
Ghash if you are looking for my vods they are gone havent streamed in ages
warm plinth
😏
naive panther
My work has YouTube open and twitch blocked as well as any other obscure gaming or fun site I ever venture to
warm plinth
Yeah I know. I missed the last two because they expired before I got the chance to watch it
No amazon isn’t blocked. But we order shit from them sometimes
exotic spoke
Rip seoinage.
And ghash - glad died in wod after 1 fucking expac - so let it stay dead
warm plinth
Though idk if prime video works or not. Haven’t tried
But Riki I want to DPS as prot 😦
exotic spoke
I just want season two of jack ryan
warm plinth
Why you crush my dreams
exotic spoke
Then tank as you do it
lusty grotto
Smh you would think they would control bandwidth better if they blocked all the fuckers watching music videos on yt, and forced them on Spotify or Pandora but I guess they are retarded
warm plinth
Spotify isn’t blocked either
lusty grotto
👌
exotic spoke
I do sometimes. I tend to have the panda emote salesmen up
modern brook
@lusty grotto where else am i going to listen to lofi hiphop and chill beats to study and relax to?
sand egret
clearly
lusty grotto
bladesong lies cause he doesnt know TwitchEmoji
exotic spoke
:rooSip:
modern brook
4Head
lusty grotto
TwitchEmoji TwitchEmoji TwitchEmoji
exotic spoke
😦
sand egret
imma give you a spoiler, people at twitch dont know that shit lol
lusty grotto
hi guys TwitchEmoji
sand egret
i believe its called the “glitch”
lusty grotto
god i hate it as much as i hate the kids in Apex with TTV on their names
lusty grotto
which is apparently about 80% of the Apex player base
sand egret
wym, my apex name is Nimchip_TTV
modern brook
Mine is xXTTVNimCHIPXx
exotic spoke
Thanks Meekuh
I’m partial to :rooCult: but I don’t have nitro so I can’t even use that in other servers
lusty grotto
i swear to god i will permanently change my god-given nickname that has lasted at least 2 decades
its ttvchip OKAY?
exotic spoke
Nerfchip obviously
sand egret
xXxN1mcH1pxXx_TTV
lusty grotto
🤢
modern brook
blade thats god tier actually
exotic spoke
Actually NimTv is probably better
modern brook
thats like 5 generations of gamer right there
lusty grotto
you forgot the 420 no scope
sand egret
gotta add the AZN part
lusty grotto
china numbah one
exotic spoke
Where is the 420, 1337, or 69?
sand egret
or some permutation of assassin
modern brook
xXx69AZN_NIM_420_CHIP_TTV69xXx
lusty grotto
no joke we would go on pubg and start yelling canada numbah two
exotic spoke
Send it bullfango
exotic spoke
North Korea is best Korea
lusty grotto
but it worked
you know what bothers me though
you know what grinds my gears
about the ttv nickname thing
its that 80% of those fuckers SUCK
like why would i even want to go to your advertised channel smh
exotic spoke
I got banned from oh fuck what was his name
lusty grotto
if i want to watch apex on twitch i go to the OG ShroudTTV
lusty grotto
lmao
sand egret
imho ace/dizzy are the ones to watch on apex
lusty grotto
my friends yelled shit at him in division
sand egret
they are on some next level shit
exotic spoke
Lirik or whatever - banned me from his channel / reported me in overwatch
Played against him in a comp game - spammed my friends twitch channel all game for free advertisement
lusty grotto
and he was like "goddamn your microphones sound amazing"
exotic spoke
At the beginning of every round / when I killed him
lusty grotto
my friend was yelling broken spanglish at him lmao
exotic spoke
I wonder if I’m still banned from his channel
lusty grotto
probs
exotic spoke
Time to find out
lusty grotto
i dont really like lirik
i mean
his stream
bores the shit outta me, except when he does GTA rp
same with towelee holy shit if i want to watch a stream to sleep, i go straight to him
exotic spoke
It’s now follower only chat. I have to wait 1 day before I can talk
random dock
Hello, a little broad question but at how many stacks of Necrotic do you usually start kiting/try to drop it?
exotic spoke
I’ll admit - it was a dick move.
Also, after we beat him, I went into his channel and sent the twitch link a couple times
exotic spoke
So, I get why he did it
lusty grotto
i don't kite
exotic spoke
I’ll start looking if I need to around 30 stacks
random dock
Roger, thanks!
lusty grotto
oh wait its bursting
exotic spoke
But I admit I’m an asshole nim
lusty grotto
what in gods name is this aids shit
exotic spoke
You can be healed once everything’s dead and bursting damage kicks in
It looks like a decent week imo
modern brook
U'D KNOW THIS IF U FUCKING RAN WITH ME NIM 😠
lusty grotto
any week that relies on dps calming the fuck down is a bad week im sorry
lusty grotto
like last week with bolstering
i tell the 2 pug dps
cause a certain rogue only shows up after 11
"hey can you guys ST horsey dudes, legionnaires and spotters a bit before you cleave, this is a Siege and if you don't we won't time it"
modern brook
yeah cause 11 is prime fucking key time dude
lusty grotto
mage goes SURE THING
modern brook
proof: I'm chesting my keys
lusty grotto
mage goes ham aoe frozen orb, comets, blizzard on every pack
horsey dudes/legionnaires getting 7 bolstering stacks
modern brook
god tier
lusty grotto
so i kick both of them
sand egret
this is why you bring a certain kitty
lusty grotto
we restart
modern brook
blade are you horde?
sand egret
duhh
modern brook
you tryna get in on this?
sand egret
i dps'd my first key last night
lusty grotto
because the rogue was a frenchy dude too and apparently he didnt understand how not to not use flurry as outlaw
sand egret
im a savant
modern brook
this way i can have 2 prot warrior discord ppl that dont fucking play with me 😠
wooden radish
@ionic fern boop hello.
sand egret
also feral is ez pz tides
exotic spoke
You never boop me Lincoln 😦
lusty grotto
we time it easy
sand egret
just perma root that shit
exotic spoke
Sometimes a Riki just wants a boop.
exotic spoke
Thanks for trying bull
sand egret
i like to believe Lincoln is actually Mwahi's cat that learned to type one thing
lusty grotto
that's a reasonable thing to believe
modern brook
yeah i ship it
sand egret
but yeah Bull, im horde-side on my druid
finally dps'd a key
ran with a bdk that didn't use the DnD slow talent this week
😬
exotic spoke
But did you do it as a tank spec?
lusty grotto
rofl
sand egret
naw my feral actually pumps
lusty grotto
i would have to see logs
exotic spoke
Glad to see you’re not selfish and understand that if you get invited as a dps role you do dps as a dps - not as a tank spec
sand egret
tbh I DID end up tanking.....
modern brook
in fairness, this is the pro discord, riki
sand egret
just in bear form
lusty grotto
idk what you're talking about, i get into groups as a healer on nimchy
alliance are easy to fool
sand egret
cuz homie didn't have the means to ktie
lusty grotto
just bandage people np np
lusty grotto
"why is healer meters so low?" bro, don't you want your healers to pump dps?
exotic spoke
@modern brook I have no issue with tanks doing as much damage as possible. I try to
I have an issue with someone coming in to a group as a dps role - doing the dps as prot and not contributing as much as a real dps would - and wondering why they shouldn’t get kicked
You were invited as a dps - don’t be prot - be fury or arms
modern brook
i was memeing :^(
exotic spoke
Lol I still ❤ bull
sand egret
that...happens to you often Riki?
lusty grotto
what do
oblique garnet
bandages you say
sand egret
hawt
warm plinth
No, Riki is just salty about a guy (actually kinda two guys) arguing in favor of queueing as DPS but doing it as prot
And he referenced the WoD glad spec as his reason why
sand egret
ah
honest frigate
Deswind and I did some double prot warrior keys last season was fun
lusty grotto
LATE SMH
sand egret
naw, just my friends asking me if I wanted to help them with a mythic...then asking me if i could dps instead...then i pummmmped
warm plinth
Guy literally came in here with a weird flex like "lul I got kicked from a PUG raid even though I was doing 25k DPS"
lusty grotto
shh top secret strat
warm plinth
And then we found out he actually joined as a DPS but was DPSing in prot
sand egret
yeah thats pretty doucheu
cinder pasture
@oblique garnet Come at me 😂
lusty grotto
25k, but why
warm plinth
With the SOCKET
oblique garnet
F
warm plinth
holy shit
I like how you didn't even put an up-to-date gem in there
Like fuck you bandages and your socket
sand egret
the fact that its cropped to “228” damage is amazing
oblique garnet
Let me restore my 450 sporepods real quick 8)
exotic spoke
@honest frigate it’s fine if you know you’re doing it
But the guy joined a pug. Did like 25k dps, and was confused why he got kicked / couldn’t see he was in the wrong
lusty grotto
you people are nasty
cinder pasture
Damnit, the highest sporepodes I got was only 440 😦
lusty grotto
warm plinth
I've gotten no so far
lusty grotto
🤔
warm plinth
Am lucky
lusty grotto
i havent gotten any either 😉
warm plinth
Well, sort of. I did get a belt from a dungeon that was a downgrade, then bonus rolled a ring I already had at the same ilevel.
Was trying to get a shield 😢
exotic spoke
I’ve had two of them at 450
warm plinth
That's trash
lusty grotto
only shield worth getting is ML