I dropped one last night @strong forum feelsbad.
#protection
unborn island
sick sentinel
I am only 430, but have 3xbom and 2xshield trait and if i use avatar it is such a defensive CD, feel like immortal...
unborn island
and then the casters come.
tacit gorge
ilvl or traits? i dont know which traits i should run for m+ or raiding, is it worth stacking dc for the dmg?
oblique garnet
no stacking dc is not worth
sick sentinel
dc will do damage though
can anyone explain why arcane heart is so bad after blizzard "tuned" it? did tuning it make it actually worse?
best uptime ive gotten in a dungeon is 25% which translates to an awesome 175 strength overall on a 445 piece
strong forum
🤷 never bothered using it cuz 1.5mil is alot to chew through for a meh buff
drowsy forge
whats the best? Rezan's Gleaming Eye 430ilvl, Jes' Howler 440ilvl + socket or Razdunk's Big Red Button 435ilvl? with pair to Vial of Animated Blood 450ilvl
tanking m+
oblique garnet
Rezan vial
drowsy forge
all 3 are nice. im thinking about vial+jess because of socket
its about 640strng
rezan is only 430...
brisk ferry
jes is hot garbage
wide girder
in protspec?
wide girder
for what? there are a lot of options
stark ruin
yes, this is my question 😃
wide girder
i think it is very bad choice for any dd spec im m+
in*
i'd go to rezan/vial for dps and survivability both
stark ruin
At the moment it's one of my best trinkets, sadly; and I was wondering how to maximize its power
I have a 400 rezan and a 405 vial...
the loot fairy is a bitch lately
at least I have good rings this time around, which I usually struggle with, but I'm way behind on the trinket front
So, to rephrase: is there a valid use for razor coral in m+?
ionic fern
If you can use it efficiently i see no reason not to. Stack it up and pop it with Avatar. Just gotta think who you gonna use it on and when.
Probably not on low level m+ tho since sruff dies too fast
stark ruin
of course
I have a few things in mind where it could be lined up nicely, I'll experiment a bit I guess
like KR last boss to pop it when both raptors are up for extra parry and deeps
foggy cliff
Is there a good guide for ashvane heroic from tanks perspective? (Or a kill video)
We managed to get get her to 2% and we wipe on third phase allways :*
unborn island
does a haste/crit weapon drop anywhere in M+?
brisk ferry
@unborn island temple
rapid jewel
@foggy cliff do you have logs?
foggy cliff
I did Atal+11 , i died inside.
Also +10 Underrot made me wanna kill myself , volcanic+Tyranical+last boss.. /commits soduko
@rapid jewel Sadly i didnt collect logs (i recently wiped all my addons and forgot to get that ;P ) .
But previous bosses someone collected logs and i phrased rather poorly.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/draenor/emetur?mode=detailed&zone=23#boss=2289&difficulty=4 (Previous boss)
thorny laurel
I donty know how to do AD properly now
foggy cliff
it gets really messy only on +10 .
The new packs really mess it up with the emissary.
weary thorn
knocked out a 12 AD, didn't honestly seem that different from any season 2 teeming week. Just focus the emissary mechanics first and you should be fine
sick sentinel
mhh what did you guys think about naga hide enchant?
potent anvil
Its void emissary week, so its fun times in keys 
marble cipher
Too bad we can't reflect her explosion back onto her 😂
thorny laurel
Well; you cant skip the hardest pack in the dungeon
Dont even think you can deathrun it cuz you most likely pull it during the boss
sick sentinel
ive tried getting the prot hidden artifact now for 7 days and still no cave spawn, is this normal?
weary thorn
took me a couple weeks
sick sentinel
yikes
brittle owl
@sick sentinel it's bad
sand egret
when we say "void emissary week", does that mean they're are more of them or that they're in particular spots? @potent anvil
lusty grotto
yes
weary thorn
more of them, dunno about particular spots
potent anvil
My name was changed again 😞
lusty grotto
LMAO
sand egret
F
potent anvil
I just have to get CE and I'll have my name again
sand egret
this like like the last 80% of most cliche sports movies
you fought your Iceland
now you need to montage back to greatness
sand egret
ducks.quack.together
lusty grotto
🦆
lusty grotto
stupid quacking weeks
foggy cliff
Void Emissary is the easiest one to handle , you can take about 3 of his hits in a row .
So you just kite the mobs with him around a pillar , and then zerg the emissary.
upper kindle
Is it worth to take ruinous bolts over CR. If i take CR I will have 2 of them and not sure if its worth.
lusty grotto
all of them are easy
weary thorn
ruinous bolt, more like ruinous your fucking pulls
lusty grotto
void just makes shrouding in certain spots impossible
sand egret
i mean it makes Revenge sort of better than a devastate in AoE, so honestly if you're pumping it enough it's prob a decent dps increase
compared to Ruinous Bolt of "IM JUST GOING TO SHOOT THIS THING OVER THERE!"
upper kindle
Is it really what it does
sand egret
THANKS PAL BOLT
foggy cliff
btw , is there any azerite traits we should stack as prot wars?
No guides really tell which are the best traits to stack
upper kindle
Ok thanks for Info, I was about to use that in dungeon but looks like I shouldnt
upper kindle
It's a non in raids as well?
foggy cliff
Eh...DC?..BOM? O_o
sand egret
also note that the defensive % of CR DOES stack
so in that respect it's leaps and bounds over RB
weary thorn
Yea, I'd just never use ruinous
upper kindle
Ok, I didnt know the defensive stacks
sand egret
yeah it's an oddball as most %'s on traits don't
foggy cliff
Ah, Bastion of Might, Deafening Crash .
Got it 😉
I guess ill dump my residium to get some 430's instead of saving for 445' to replace my bad azerite pieces 😭
sand egret
@foggy cliff
- DC = Deafening Crash. Primary value is that it extends Demo Shout (this does not stack). Secondary value is bigger Claps. Less value now that UF got clipped, but still a choice for pure DPS parsing intentions. Try and have at one of these for the defensive benefit stated above.
- BoM = Bastion of Might. Phat mastery and proven to make teeth whiter. 10/10 warriors approve
foggy cliff
Thanks .
Gotta go replace some of my gear then
weary thorn
yep, 1 DC is key. then as many BoMs as you can get for m+, Bfi for raid damage, if for m+ (i usually go for at least 1 ea.)
foggy cliff
is it worth taking a 415 piece instead of 430 just to get one of them ?
weary thorn
if you have zero DCs, then yea I'd drop 15 for it
foggy cliff
i got 1 DC , but i dont have 3 BOM .
weary thorn
then no, dont drop
sand egret
honorable mentions are BFI and IF, since k-values got adjusted with the new tier, good Block value is a thing to have again. These traits will help you a lot, especially if your shield is a low ilvl
weary thorn
yep
lusty grotto
no dropping ilvls
sand egret
I wouldnt' drop for DC tbh
lusty grotto
😡
lusty grotto
we can't cause then kaege will wake up and tell you RNG is better
analog swift
lololol
lusty grotto
remember laser matrix?
oblique garnet
aint that the truth
lusty grotto
😄
sand egret
yoo ngl
lusty grotto
laser matrix: "hey yall want some mobs from under the floor?"
soft yew
Link sir
sand egret
was perty proud
warm plinth
Why would you not drop for first DC? Surely having almost double the uptime on 15% increased damage is worth losing 15 ilevel on a single azerite piece.
analog swift
for real tho, i've been simming the % dps increase from one gizmo, and comparing it to my damage from barrage
ofc i think BoM in keys starts over taking gizmo by far now with VoP
but i have to play monk in raid for debuff so no radiance 😦
lusty grotto
🤷
it could but you're still going for higher ilvl (talking about the engi googles convo here)
sand egret
mostly because the stat diff between azerite tiers is more drastic, and that potential OTHER trait options could mitigate that
i can totally see why
lusty grotto
if you're going for engi googles chances are you don't have a different 445 helm
sand egret
maybe for Raid stuff, but for M+, naw
lusty grotto
at this point
analog swift
well it's faster to make than mythic depending on guild. Only 22 heroic kills. Full clear first week and second week before mythic almost there already
lusty grotto
right
analog swift
yeah for same ilvl tho
analog swift
i know most took engi helm but there also wasn't a perfect raid piece (tho jadefire was dope)
yeet
soft yew
Guild guild
lusty grotto
is someone having a stroke?
sand egret
that was profound
that difference in capitalization really speaks to the current political climate 🤔
weary thorn
like Gang gang
sand egret
deep.
soft yew
^^
lusty grotto
Bam bam
weary thorn
thats only the tip of the rabbit hole
dusty pasture
weary thorn
quick nav is bae
sand egret
naw
lusty grotto
where are you seeing this conflicting info?
sand egret
force multi OR quick nav
warm plinth
Sometimes I wonder if people actually read the guide before sending people there. Spoiler alert: it doesn’t mention force multiplier at all.
undone sun
😮
weary thorn
wow 
lusty grotto
shhh who summoned kaege
warm plinth
Nah that was that guy who is friends with Stewart
lusty grotto
i was hoping lord merek would have fixed this already
sick sentinel
Force multiplier if you're a gamer
Quick nav if you're not
undone sun
real gamer hours
lusty grotto
w8
willow scarab
quick nav if you're poor and living in BoD still
sand egret
Quick Nav if your poor
lusty grotto
what is this gamer thing
sick sentinel
The icy veins guide is aimed at non gamers
lusty grotto
halp ghash
willow scarab
icy veins is for 410ilvl casual gamer who plays prot once a week and made their alt 3 weeks ago
lusty grotto
i hope its not some asmongold shit
willow scarab
Sell +10 carries?
sand egret
yeah gonna just get right on that
warm plinth
I was doing a +10 on my DH yesterday and dude was telling me to flask/pre pot
weary thorn
starting to get sweaty in here
lusty grotto
mongolgold
sand egret
LOL
warm plinth
I’m like bro I’m way too fucking poor for that shit
sand egret
prepot
willow scarab
prepot a 10 lol
sand egret
fuckin richimon
weary thorn
prepot a 10?
warm plinth
Pots are fucking 800g a piece on my server. Hard pass.
weary thorn
thats some next level shit. He wanted a 3 chest
sand egret
i'm so fucking pissed there isn't a way to change your Loa worship to a hidden Jani one after you got Trashmaster
soft yew
Indeed
sand egret
he's knows whats up
lusty grotto
who the shit flasks a 10
sand egret
i flask stam
warm plinth
“Jani whispers you periodically to call you garbage, keeping you humble and increasing haste by 300 for 15 seconds”
lusty grotto
smh
sand egret
Rigatony was putting Nimchy to shame AND surviving
lusty grotto
this is the kind of bullet i dodge
weary thorn
trashmaster title best title for pug tanking
weary thorn
the quest line is talk to jani and give her the cloak
warm plinth
Turn it in to Jani noob
lusty grotto
w8
warm plinth
Get dat title
sand egret
"gotta do the questline"
warm plinth
It’s a hidden quest
lusty grotto
oh i see i see
sand egret
it's a hidden quest you nimbus
warm plinth
Talk to Jani at the Zacoro or whatever (the place where you talk to her first)
weary thorn
cant and wont are two different things
lusty grotto
yes that place
warm plinth
Why not. What title is better than Trashmaster
sand egret
my name?
lusty grotto
excuse me, im a chef
sand egret
Butak Jenkins will always be Butak Jenkins
lusty grotto
the fuck out with that trashmaster, i cook things
weary thorn
i bet you cook trashmaster things
weary thorn
agreed
warm plinth
Idk how to tell you this Nim
weary thorn
#trashsquadlyfe
warm plinth
But Stewart is dead
sand egret
shut your mouth.
lusty grotto
ghash you forgot how stewart met his cousing pedro, who was accompanying a mariachi-mog undead prot warrrior
err you missed*
warm plinth
Agonizingly. Painfully.
lusty grotto
SIRS THIS IS A GAME ABOUT MAGIC
sand egret
stewart is part lungfish
warm plinth
😂
sand egret
get with it.
weary thorn
#justice4stewart
warm plinth
^
lusty grotto
#stewartHasMagicLungs
sand egret
like, everyone all after the Tidestone but to Stewart that thing is just some marble
warm plinth
Where the fuck is DEHTA
lusty grotto
you guys haven't seen Stewart's final form
warm plinth
Too obscure a reference?
soft yew
A lot of interesting prot warrior info thanks y’all
weary thorn
Nim "fake news" chip is just feeding us lies to cover up his fish abuse
lusty grotto
when he becomes Dreams End
sand egret
Spoiler: Bwomsamdi's real master is Stewart.
lusty grotto
Fish Saiyan Stewart
sand egret
stewart can't die. he's mastered Death.
lusty grotto
unlimited power
weary thorn
heartvader up in here being when we are just trying to keep this fish murderer off the streets
undone sun
im so lost
ocean kiln
As a prot, is ilvl very important. I got some 20 ilvl upgrade but no haste on them,
sick sentinel
Yes
Yes
Ilvl >>>>>>
Even if its 5 ilvls
You still go for ilvl
Only exception might be trinkets/rings depending on what you are using but in general we are ilvl mongos
ocean kiln
Alright cool ty
honest frigate
Feels good being 438 Ilvl when everyone else in the raid has to wear benthic
Ilvl king 🤴
hardy holly
for what damn reason when the essence pops avatar
bom only gives mastery worth for 1 piece of azerite gear
while i have 3x
prisma crane
blizzard are very efficient fun police
hardy holly
when did they nerf that?
shut summit
Lol
hardy holly
it has always been like that?
sand egret
a bit ago
shut summit
Been like that since ptr
sick sentinel
Also @honest frigate when the raid “has” to where benthic gear lul
Some of it sims higher than 455
In EP anyway
Useless if you aren’t raiding
errant widget
Jumping in on the above discussion, would you assume that the Splitter is actually the best option here? I had been using the Barb given the stats and gem slot.
weary thorn
honestly I'd sim it
errant widget
Yeah, I figured as much. That weapon damage is throwing me off totally.
Almost too close to call
weary thorn
yea, if what you're after is which one offers better dps then simming is your go-to
prisma crane
the 440 is way better for ST
like
it simmed 500 dps higher than a 440 of a diff weapon
at least for me
prisma crane
i'd argue on tyrannical weeks the 440 is still better
plus you gain more IP from the higher weapon dps
willow scarab
weeks where you're gonna take big boss damage?
prisma crane
eh, the on use is boring
willow scarab
I'd only use servent splitter in scenarios where it's exclusively ST and I know I wont' die
Even without hte on use it's a hast/vers wep
servent also meh for aoe
weary thorn
I only have the gorgonzola sword at 430, no axe yet. Easy choice for me
prisma crane
i wouldn't mind the attack speed axe
strong forum
Gl getting that on a relevant ilvl
prisma crane
but yea, idk, so far the splitter imo is pretty nice and in aoe i dont think the 100 haste is make or break
does it help, yea
but i'll take the additional boss dmg on tyr weeks
willow scarab
i collected a paragon cache in arms
but looted it in prot
and got rank 4 dps essence instead of prot 😃
lusty grotto
Did we forget that weapon damage increases all of our offensive abilities?
And weapon damage increases by ilvl?
Why would he even use barb
analog creek
I've gotten a rotation that's working pretty good for me atm, I'm curious to hear what others might be doing for CDs on mythic orgazoa.
lusty grotto
Smh
weary thorn
Listen, if I want to be lectured by a fish murderer, I'll contact someone from SeaWorld
rustic forge
new to tanking here..any addon suggestion so I can tell how much my SB and IP is mitigating / absorbing in real time? i'm trying to figure out when i should be using either one of those and those numbers would help me.
lusty grotto
Either? No you should be using both
rustic forge
sorry, yes, that's what i want to find out too. but would like to look at the numbers in real time
lusty grotto
Except on a pure magic scenario
weary thorn
the numbers would be based on your gear
analog creek
If you are taking blockable damage you SB, and then dump rage into IP/revenge depending on how much incoming damage you are looking at.
lusty grotto
Given that this data is freely available in your combat log
I suppose there could be WAs
But honestly most of us just look at logs after the fact
lusty grotto
Since prot is a proactive spec, you do nothing by looking at damage in real time since
Most of you can do is reactionary
Which is the wrong way to play prot
rustic forge
Thanks @strong trellis .. i'll take a look at details.
weary thorn
np, and nim is right. You'll be playing proactively. The best way to play a prot warrior more effectively is to know what your enemies can do in m+ / Raid
that way you use your kit effectively
reactive play is for dk's and staggering cheaters
foggy cliff
yeah, warrior cant really do anything if you are getting hit hard and sitting on 10% hp (cough dk cough)
rustic forge
OK. I was looking to see if i can get real time numbers so I can see my mistakes in real time. it would be more of a learning tool since i'm new. but if that's not possible, then that's OK.
foggy cliff
But if you had SB/IP/Last stand before the big hit came in..you wont be at10%.
weary thorn
warrior shouldnt be getting to 10%, dk's regularly spike
lusty grotto
It's possible but you should instead learn how to see logs
foggy cliff
I went into a PUG as disc priest with warrior tank.
I nearly shat myself as he went from 100% to 10% in half second .
Never again , gonna keep playing my war .
weary thorn
LS part of normal rotation in 99% of scenarios
foggy cliff
I like using it at 80-90% hp
lusty grotto
You're using it wrong then
analog creek
LS should be used as a window to recover SB charges, and used on CD 90% of the time
lusty grotto
👆
foggy cliff
i wouldent drop to 80% hp if i had SB up ;/ (well..atleast not frequently)
analog creek
Try not to be at 100% when you use it though, to pad healing meters
lusty grotto
🤔 🤷
analog creek
Lol
weary thorn
If my healer wants to pad meters then they can pound sand, m+ meters pfffffft
analog creek
If you're at 100% logs and most meters see it as overheals, does not change the effectiveness really.
foggy cliff
tbh , the healer meter im looking at is their dps
foggy cliff
if everyone is alive and healer actually does more than 0 dps ..than its a good run 😛
analog creek
I like healer dps, I also like pulling aggressively enough that maybe they can't
weary thorn
communication goes a long way with regards to that situation
lusty grotto
🐟
weary thorn
tell a healer you are giga pulling and popping some cds
they can dps till they need to heal, or however you want to work it
@lusty grotto
weary thorn
pulled all the groups at the base of the first stairs in FH onto void emmissary and spanked em all
hpala was going hog wild on dps meters
lusty grotto
I like it
foggy cliff
If all dps interrupt , CC and tank is utilizng his CD's the healer should not be castin healings 100% of time .
meaning he has idle time..
he should dps in that time .
analog creek
I haven't run any keys yet this week, but when I do this weekend, many giga pulls are on the menu
weary thorn
helped that I ran anima for luls + idol so I had two big self heals available
brisk ferry
yeah this week is incredibly fun to giga pull
foggy cliff
With volcanic and teeming?..you hate your healer? 😛
brisk ferry
31k overall in TD12 last night
weary thorn
agreed, bigger the pulls the better this week
foggy cliff
I kinda like the dodge mechagon (card) trinket for big pulls..i manage to get to 25% dodge with it
weary thorn
speaking of which
foggy cliff
espeically on big pulls
lusty grotto
Gz
brisk ferry
nice
weary thorn
thanks!
foggy cliff
Cant bringmyself to not use Trajectory Analysis:
Equip: Taking Physical damage grants 108 Dodge for 6 sec. This effect stack
its so good for big pulls 😉
brisk ferry
dodge doesn't do any damage 🤔
analog creek
I kind of hate how good that trinket is for damage, my 435 butcher block is only like 200 dps behind it on single target
lusty grotto
I can't wait to test out my inkboy I got last night
brisk ferry
ahh nice nim, what ilvl?
lusty grotto
430 only
brisk ferry
oh that's still solid
analog creek
430 socketed inkpod usually about 6-7% of my dmg in m+ last week
foggy cliff
@analog creek yeah,but you also take ALOT less dmg between the blocks and dodges .
making you able to pull bigger.
analog creek
15-19 key level
sick sentinel
It stacks up to 99
lusty grotto
👀
analog creek
Yea I have a good selection for trinkets, 450 edict and 430 inkpod are my default for most content,
Both socketed
weary thorn
v nice
lusty grotto
I didn't get edict last night feelsbadman
sick sentinel
Big edict
analog creek
I've seen a single shield for 120k
lusty grotto
Hoping for a giga dreams end tonight
Fingers crossed
Hoping I can get a decent zaqul group
foggy cliff
oh , anyone got a pawn stat priority for prot war?
every guide seem to have slightly different numbers.
lusty grotto
Fingers double crossed
sick sentinel
Nuke pawn
brisk ferry
pawn
lusty grotto
Pawn is the devil
sick sentinel
Uninstall it completely
lusty grotto
You need jesus
foggy cliff
So what i should use?; /
foggy cliff
O_o
brisk ferry
brain n/a if pawn installed tho
sick sentinel
FUCK I HAVE TO UPDATE FOR 8.2
foggy cliff
wut guide 😛
weary thorn
my brain didnt daddyforge and no socket 😦
analog creek
Stat values will change dramatically, depending on what you want out of your gear, the fight type, the mob count, the damage profile...
brisk ferry
my brain is socketed due to the lack of cells
sick sentinel
I wrote a thing like 2 months ago and it started getting shared everywhere and it was stormforged approved
Was more like "follow these guidelines to gear properly"
But I have to update it
sick sentinel
Good enough
foggy cliff
Still i'd prefer to have something ingame
lusty grotto
johnny kaege slacking on updates
sick sentinel
Tldr
ilvl >Haste > Crit
Force multiplier on weap
Sockets=5 ilvls (0 on weap and shield)
lusty grotto
at least youre not lord merek which still doesn't have force multi in the guide 😉
sick sentinel
Just use your brain
lusty grotto
MEREK!
sick sentinel
And make an educated decision
lusty grotto
hey hey
undone sun
🤦
foggy cliff
Eh..i guess i should drop deadly navigation then 😛
sick sentinel
Definitely
foggy cliff
On next wep , im on my last 10k and i dont wanna spend 2k on a 430 wep
sick sentinel
Deadly nav was never a good idea
lusty grotto
hmm
sick sentinel
We used quick all of bfa
After you're fine with your haste you go force multiplier
If you're a gamer
analog creek
Quick nav best dmg, force mult slightly less dmg, both solid choices
Force gives a tad more mitigation value
weary thorn
is kaege being passive aggressive with us by insinuating we arent gamer enough for f.multiplier?
analog creek
But really splitting hairs between the two
weary thorn
I feel beset upon
lusty grotto
hmmmm
what professions are you
im just curious as to why people run out of gold
i had an interesting chat about this the other day with a "regular"
but he had some shitty professions lmao
not gonna name names
it starts with a b
foggy cliff
Alchemy/Herb
warm plinth
A lot of people don’t even bother with profs
foggy cliff
to supply myself with abyssal healing pots
lusty grotto
but golds!!!
analog creek
I spent 200k on a ring, then about 120k hitting 2k io last week. And I haven't really made any of that back yet. But I'm also not broke.
lusty grotto
200 stacks of the new herb sells for 6k
foggy cliff
But i got 0 income 😉
foggy cliff
Who has time to run around najazatar with ground mount and collect 200 herbs ;/
analog creek
Casual detected
sand egret
yeah jeez
lusty grotto
do you at least have r2 of the gather new herb
lusty grotto
how do you make healing pots? or flasks or dps pots?
foggy cliff
ground mount ...
lusty grotto
hmm
willow scarab
8-9 inefficient hours of play
sand egret
lol
lusty grotto
you needs some flying!
sand egret
yeah get that efficiency up or you're gonna get fired!
willow scarab
Don't you do things on your ground mount and just wish you could fly
sand egret
as someone who just got it last night though, it's pretty fucking clutch
foggy cliff
"Oh , go torture yourself..just for a little while"
sigh..this week has 50% extra rep..im forcing myself this week
lusty grotto
like me, i just do the companion exp dailies and the rustbolt wq that's it
foggy cliff
im also 3k from revered with both factions.
lusty grotto
that should be fast
sand egret
that's like 1 day in mechagon
sick sentinel
@weary thorn you need to game the enchant my dude
sand egret
considering the meta quest is 1275 rep
sick sentinel
Get multiple buffs at the same time
sand egret
naz just sucks a lot to navigate around, i feel that
foggy cliff
Yeah , and all small ones are 100-200 each..and then i can be free from ever stepping in mechagon again
foggy cliff
I just farm M+ , mostly boosting guildies who cant get a tank to do their +5's to get their raider.io score up ;/
sand egret
yo Nim, you peep this Revenant game from Gunfire...
sick sentinel
Like you can have a crit buff, a haste buff and a mastery buff at the same time
weary thorn
from f.multiplier?
lusty grotto
haven't seen it blade
sick sentinel
Yes major
sand egret
Revenant from the Ashes, kinda a soul-like shooter thing. Looks really neat
lusty grotto
let me see
sick sentinel
Anda made some paint art
sand egret
it looks really slick ngl
sick sentinel
Explaining it
analog creek
Force is a great enchant, I use it over quick nav all day
sick sentinel
Wrong screenshot monka
undone sun
👀
analog creek
The uptime on it is really high, and the secondary procs stacking make it really competitive with quick nav for raw output
sand egret
oh yeah whoops
weary thorn
very cool
analog creek
Just a small added layer of rng
sand egret
V/M same thign
weary thorn
I gotta hit the road, but I'll check that out tonight
take care everyone (even you chip
lusty grotto
😮
sand egret
gottem
sullen pollen
if using coral, would i generally extract with avatar?
undone sun
yeah
honest frigate
Coral is BIS for a lot of specs ST dps wise including prot
But definitely always sim
turbid wing
anyone knows if the Dream's End proc is properly calculated for our dps prot sims?
fiery storm
Forgive me if I missed it in the pins. Is the new Eternal Palace block value soft-cap posted anywhere?
warm plinth
There’s no such thing (that you should care about). That’s why it’s not and has never been posted, other than to say it’s not a thing.
ionic fern
Allied Race when
lusty grotto
idk what you're talking about
we're all that dorf
mfw people say "block value soft-cap": 😡
mutters something about reading that stupid guy, that i completely forgot the name of
or the stupid wowhead guide
ionic fern
Did i miss it?:(
warm plinth
sand egret
Iron Boot Flask has been on my staple toy/form changer rotation for years @ionic fern it's a classic
warm plinth
I like the one that turns you into a Goron too
sand egret
i got that in there
just picked up a sky-mirror which made it, along with the orb of deception (which if you're a troll, also makes you a dorf 😃
warm plinth
Isn’t orb of deception a world drop?
sand egret
maybe? I farmed it 10 years ago so /shrug
it's from Dire Maul
some random rare mob can drop it if i recall
undone sun
it is
undone sun
65k on my server
link preview 😡
too big
friend gifted it to me on a birthday some odd years back
undone sun
just click the X
sand egret
it's a great picture of a nice friendly orc. smh
warm plinth
Thyme is an enemy of nice friendly orcs
undone sun
correct
rapid jewel
does someone have an updated or alternate version of method dungeon tool?
strong forum
itll take a couple days
nnogga only just got access to tournament realm
to map out MDT
on every affix combination
exotic spoke
Ughhhhh
Trying to convince my other mythic tanks they don’t need to go full defensive
warm plinth
Lol
sullen pollen
🛡 tanks 🛡 must 🛡 tank 🛡 but yea its crazy that people have this ancient mentality still @exotic spoke
rapid jewel
trinket from WM is probably our best with rezan for m+ (damage wiese)
exotic spoke
Especially on fights like ashvane which we’ll get there soon.
Fucking use offensive shit
sand egret
It's fine to have a defensive mentality, imho. What's not fine is being ignorant to the needs of your raid. If your raid needs to squeak out every ounce of damage to meet a hard check (M Ashvane) then you should also be looking at your own kit to see how you can get as much of that as you can afford
exotic spoke
I was in the other disc blade
rapid jewel
as tank you should put in min 22k, better around 25k DPS on ashvane myth. Also its way more fun being less defensive and have to work for your survivle instead of just playing afk
exotic spoke
Prove you can do a 15 and I’ll strongly consider it if you can make the raid times - ooof you can’t
sand egret
RIP Ghash
exotic spoke
@sand egret if they change their view based on the fight I have no issue
Luckily, I can get my way pretty easily if I have to
I have an advantage
warm plinth
Yep. Ded
sand egret
yeah, hopefully it works out
at the end of the day, our ability to flex in/out of damage in our kit is a strength and should be leveraged as such,
exotic spoke
Yeah - but if you need it - put offensive trinkets on.
I already told the BDK expect to die on ashvane early in second phase two
exotic spoke
Hi nim
warm plinth
I have 100% parse
lusty grotto
😢
exotic spoke
Oh? What was the parse nim
lusty grotto
ahem i was 2k last season okay?
sand egret
old news
warm plinth
But that’s last season
lusty grotto
😢
sand egret
break point is 1.8k
sand egret
1799 = trash kid
lusty grotto
and sense
exotic spoke
Good luck nim
undone sun
anything above 0 = trash
warm plinth
What is your score this season?
exotic spoke
What are you st right now nim?
lusty grotto
i dont even fucking know lmao ghash
warm plinth
Lol
warm plinth
I might be higher than you
warm plinth
My warrior has an epic score so far this season.
sand egret
i'm trying to get exactly 420
lusty grotto
and i really do like beguiling
warm plinth
Prot score = 156
lusty grotto
so i dont know
sand egret
156....did you like start a Mythic and fall asleep during it?
lusty grotto
hey man
wispy plume
@exotic spoke I feel you on the defensive thing. My favorite thing to hear is “other tanks watch your threat” I immediately reply with “get good I’m not slowing down”
lusty grotto
i grinded that shit
probably why im on my "blah" phase
wish essence unlocks were account wide
fuck man
i wanna play rogue with riki
sand egret
if the tank pair in a raid ISN'T trying to rip off eachother in a dick measuring contest everytime....then I would never wanna be tanking in that raid
that's like....the whole fun part
everytime I see another tank in the world I have to try and rip threat off of them without taunt because people who do that are just the worst
sand egret
like who taunts the world boss?
rip that shit off of me if you want it so bad
where'd all the honor go man
tanks these days
wispy plume
Yeah it’s not in my raid. It’s omegalul do less damage so I can hold threat
I’m like play better bitch
warm plinth
@sand egret I’m still maining havoc. My DH is like 828 or something
sand egret
828....how's 3 expacs from now
warm plinth
I have a 2 chested 7 a 3 chested 4 and a 2 chested 3 lul
sand egret
oh for some reason I thought you meant ilvl
warm plinth
Lol!
lusty grotto
828 jesus christ lucky forges
warm plinth
I was like huh?
warm plinth
Like day 1. They just won’t report the real world first because they don’t want people to know how far rng can carry you
sand egret
why on earth would he refuse
undone sun
sorry, cat is stuck in microwave
sand egret
oh right....
warm plinth
He asks me at the worst times
undone sun
¯_(ツ)_/¯
sand egret
dammit get with the program Thyme
undone sun
hard pass
warm plinth
Tfw if we complete the 15 Riki takes me to, I’ll literally double my score with 1 dungeon
undone sun
if this is right, i don't mind being wrong @sand egret
warm plinth
And then no one will invite me because it looks like I boosted
sand egret
i ran mecha last night with some coworkers and their guildies. The whole start they were talking about it like it was this whole ordeal and we just blew through that shit in an hour
i was like "yall are too precious"
warm plinth
Was it even hard mode?
sand egret
NOPE
warm plinth
Lolol
sand egret
pretty sure my healer never dropped below 90% mana
sand egret
pulled 22k overall too 😃
sand egret
oooo finally a mass entangle use!
warm plinth
Mass entangle for what? Shockies?
sand egret
yeah normally I typhoon/vortex them but that seems better
lusty grotto
🤔
warm plinth
Hells yeah
I’ll carry all of you. If you don’t believe me, go watch my trash fucking DH fail keys on twitch. Saddest shit you’ll ever watch.
lusty grotto
hmm
oblique garnet
🤔
warm plinth
Speaking of twitch... coughLatecough
lusty grotto
here comes late with his "wtf is this mass entangle" comment
warm plinth
Where’s muh keys
Can you typhoon the bots out of the arena on 4th boss?
Or do they stop at the barrier
warm plinth
Because that’d be pretty sick. What lightning on the ground?
lusty grotto
what you mean
sand egret
not sure you can actually
but i haven't really tried, they're mostly in the circle when i've done it
warm plinth
They drop lightning on the ground behind them as they walk. If you could typhoon them out of the arena, you wouldn’t have to dodge lightning
exotic spoke
Nim... come to the alliance. Nimchy needs a home
warm plinth
That was fucking kinky
exotic spoke
With raids... mythic pluses... black jack and hookers
Screen shot or it didn’t happen
lusty grotto
👀
lusty grotto
no he said he needs homeless elves
warm plinth
^
exotic spoke
The real question is... can I get three m+ done after raid tonight before i pass out
lusty grotto
NO MONEY TO BLIZZARD OKAY
exotic spoke
Nah, elf for rogue is really good. A third fucking opener
lusty grotto
😮
sand egret
clearly a beard
lusty grotto
🤔 i gotta be honest
sand egret
right there
lusty grotto
that did looks kinda hot
exotic spoke
I’m sexy and I know it
sand egret
so :slowpoke:
exotic spoke
I wish I didn’t lose my screenshots from my last comp
Of all the different iterations of Riki
exotic spoke
Fire magic
lusty grotto
this is some bullshit
exotic spoke
Lol, so, the spriest I run with - jokingly - asked for a letter of recommendation after he finishes his doctoral research program
He was joking... I wasn’t
About your problem solving skills in extra curricular activities?
Over coming hard challenges by consistently finding minor improvements to build upon and working well as a team?
Bryan, not only excelled in a team environment, but also within his specific responsibilities Becoming the 79th best at his role - using the most popular and accurate measuring tool available- out of a total of 42,690 other people in a similar situation
warm plinth
lol
exotic spoke
It’s some high quality - but factual -bullshit and it continues
While excelling in small groups (5 people) he also contributed to a team of between 20 and 30 people. He would lead by example, provide guidance and insight where possible, help keep morale high, and continue to push towards the goals the team set forth
sand egret
"often struggled to keep himself sane, though. Suffered from frequent bouts of Insanity"
warm plinth
"and nerd rage"
exotic spoke
See that’s the problem. You leave those parts out!
I could add “and he did all of this while working and finishing his doctoral research project”
sand egret
"really had a hard time not standing in fire though"
Interviewers reading this: ".... 🤔 "
exotic spoke
Nah he’s actually really good at not standing in fireb
sand egret
"he's very good at not standing in fire"
Interviewers, still: " 🤔 "
oblique garnet
What is going on here🤔
exotic spoke
Standard prot off topic
oblique garnet
As usual
oblique garnet
Eh so is everyone else 🤷
undone sun
😭
rapid jewel
late gonna break 65 this week with rabbots charm?
vestal edge
ok 430 ashvane noble ring vs 420 lovers ring and my co tank also has lover ring
spice ferry
Rabbit charm gigafarm
oblique garnet
Why would i go for 65
And this week is not even good for charms but good for giga pulls
modern pulsar
for weapon enchants, icy veins still says quick navigation, is that correct?
unborn island
Force multiplier is the new bis I heard
lusty grotto
defensively quick nav is still superior
but yes merek needs to add force multi maybe
@fierce juniper 👋
odd quail
For max dps though, which enchant is best?
fierce juniper
classic
lusty grotto
haha
force multi sims better @odd quail
usually
do your own sims if you wanna be sure
shut summit
odd quail
Mmk. That's how I prefer to roll. As a tank with high mitigation, I don't really like double dipping into more defense.
More damage = more dead
exotic spoke
Lol
exotic spoke
Have you been talking to my tanks? Because if not - can you?
odd quail
Haha.
exotic spoke
God damned BDKs
odd quail
Let me guess, they use Naga Hide?
exotic spoke
Don’t think so
Thought he was king shit when he had a 440 weapon and I had 415.
I upgrade to 440 and swap essence to prove a point and I jump up 4K dps
He stopped talking shit real fast
neon tangle
What where
exotic spoke
I put forth the notion that all DKs are degenerates
exotic spoke
Thanks for confirming
sand egret
dont' blame 'em. After getting hit that hard like that for so long, prob just shell-shocked
poor lil guy
sand egret
yes
balmy narwhal
omg that is great thank you
sand egret
👍
neon tangle
I just uninstalled discord from most of my devices and I’ve got the time in it limited on my phone
Cause I waste too much time
vestal edge
430 ashvane noble ring vs 420 lovers ring and my co tank also has lover ring
willow fractal
does anyone know on radiance we split into 2 groups with 2 healers n each group but we keep getting 3 bombs that need to be dispelled off players ...how do yalls raids deal with that in mythic?
3 bombs on 1 side i mean
so only 2 healers over there
sick sentinel
external
personal
prayers
if it's a mage, he iceblocks, if he is a paladin he bubbles etc
lusty grotto
bless up
quiet jungle
How far can yall go on the training dummy?
lusty grotto
is this legion?
its not a stupid question but
not a lot of people have been doing the dummy for a while
quiet jungle
I just wanna see if your guy's junk is as big as mine ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
lusty grotto
i suppose i could try it again whenever im done here
quiet jungle
okay! ty
lusty grotto
i cant remember what my record was in legion
rotund silo
Whats the go to essences for prot warrior?
lusty grotto
icy veins guide or in #268491842637660160
sick sentinel
Whenever somebody doesn't know why force multiplier undersims
Show them this
Gn
warm plinth
Speaking of force, am I missing something regarding it? Because mine doesn't show a duration.
odd quail
Is it worth using one of the tank raid trinkets? Or should I just be aiming for a high ilvl Rezans and some other dps trinket? I'm looking to maximize dps without going too far into mongoloid territory.
lusty grotto
he is a secret
remote wadi
Yes
I mean if you're only in Prot then ye you won't know who I am
The only times I talked in this chat was when Abrodus was getting banned
junior ivy
who was that
dark lark
in details! does bolstered last stand show up under the shield block aura? want to check my uptime after dungeons
lusty grotto
probably not
dark lark
hmm
lusty grotto
you wanna check uptimes, log
dark lark
when navigating logs, what tab do i check for that?
lusty grotto
damage taken
select yourself
hover your mouse over hits
the block % there takes into account bolster
dark lark
sweet
lusty grotto
make sure you check every blockable attack and not just melee
you can see which attacks are blockable by going over them or just check the blockable/spell reflect spreadsheet
dark lark
so special attacks like blade combo?
lusty grotto
yup
warm plinth
@junior ivy His name used to be like Maximillian or Maximumsomething or something like that. He's been stormforged for a long time. Can't remember exactly what his name was but it was something like that lol.
lusty grotto
his name is jeff
junior ivy
oh okay lol. i didnt mean to put you on the spot @remote wadi and be like WHO ARE YOU
warm plinth
Don't let her lie to you; of course she did
junior ivy
hahahaha okay i kinda did
lusty grotto
cool its only 4 oscillators for r2 and 6 oscillators for r3 after you get the first one
exotic spoke
So.. RIP 430 indestructible shield
willow scarab
Anyone else 445 shield in raid last night
junior ivy
and fumeiyo
willow scarab
Hey catfriend 👋