is there a way to see who triggers unstable mixture from the first boss through the logs?
#protection
balmy narwhal
hardy mesa
Any of the benthic gear good for prot warriors?
rapid jewel
@balmy narwhal just check for mixture debuffs
balmy narwhal
from the damage taken tab?
rapid jewel
nah from the debuff tab 😃
rapid jewel
go debuffs > mixture and you should see next to player names, when who triggers
hsould look like this
balmy narwhal
so for example yikezz triggered it right at the beginning correct?
buoyant walrus
What’s a good add on to change the name plates
narrow sparrow
Threat plates
strong forum
We had an hpal on 1st day, who procced SO MANY MIXTURES, that we couldn't get past 50%
We straight up kicked him
And next raid day killed the boss in 4 pulls
But we didn't know who fucked up until after the raid
So we wasted an entire day for this 1 retard
Also, plater is the best nameplate add on @buoyant walrus
rapid jewel
what is our strongest ST dmg trinket in raid encounters out of dungeons?
also on lady ash our best damage options are probably rang 3 flame + rang 3 nullbarrier (minor)
lusty grotto
fuck im gonna miss poen
exotic spoke
@junior ivy
junior ivy
AWWW WHO IS THAT
exotic spoke
The same gnome from before
junior ivy
look at that gnome cleavage
lusty grotto
looks so much like dual wield shields
warm pebble
I want duelwielding shields please xD
ember arrow
undone sun
no
lusty grotto
i really wish there was a reliable way to get oscillators :\
still 5 oscillators away from r3
that means 5 days without rngesus taking the wheel from chests
opaque shuttle
https://gyazo.com/bebead229e5eceb8190f8cca5f4f68df war tank are now able to solotank 😄
sick sentinel
@lusty grotto I got 2 oscilators from 3 chests idk what you are talking about
modern brook
I'm still neutral with mechagon lol
sick sentinel
Mechagon is fun
upper spoke
anyone have a link to a profession / engineering discord?
this is as close as I have
modern brook
Fuck gnomes dudde
lusty grotto
a what
modern brook
@junior ivy
modern brook
:^(
lusty grotto
i didn't even know those existed
upper spoke
figured i wouldnt know unless i asked
modern brook
@upper spoke the hats pgood
upper spoke
oh yah
i want to see if you're required to make that new hat to loot the schematic: super-charged engine
rain tapir
Why is vers simming so high compare to crit nowadays, is it due to essences beeing multiplied by vers?
analog swift
Probably
obsidian otter
mage food
upper spoke
appreciate the feedback
hidden trout
bros, I'm always dieing to that first pack after the 2nd boss in King's Rest
It starts off with the tides emmisary
I'm guessing I pull the tides asap before they spawn
and get the back two casters cc'd asap
if they pull
spice ferry
If you speed pot up there can you pull tides without the adds?
hidden trout
I wonder if I can pull the tides without aggroing that group
yea I'll give it a try
jovial jewel
Anyone get the Mechagon helm from hm?
If you use the trink, do you think it’ll be good?
umbral forge
I have it actually, lemme see if I can track a proc
jovial jewel
And have alchemy 440
Maybe put a mastery punch card in the trink
That extra 324 mastery is kinda op
umbral forge
I got a 100% parse for ilvl with it equipped so it's certainly not bad. I kind of like it. What traits does it give for prot warriors?
ooh
Deafening Crash
jovial jewel
I’m kr. You have to focus the emissary and los to boss room. And nuke. Get adds at the corner and nuke. That works for me
Depending on what you put in your trink
If you put master it will be another 324
Same and Crit
Or Vers
So. Depending on the punchcard. 324-+180ish stat
500 hard stat with that Azerite trait. Just wondering if anyone else has thought of the theory
Defeaning on top of hard stay. Not bad.
small flicker
siphoning the better enchant over quick navigation?
undone sun
no
jovial jewel
@umbral forge any opinions about that?
umbral forge
What
jovial jewel
If you would use that over other trinket setup or helms
Makers have Lille 30 verse on top of the 35 mastery from gear?
Maybe like 30%
umbral forge
I am a Frost Death Knight main.
The second I get inkpod I'm equipping Inkpod & Ashvane.
That said, for Prot Warriors getting more haste is always good, but is it worth dropping a potential BoM?
I think its good for Prot warriors but there are likely better options
jovial jewel
I can stack it else where.
I can tank 15+ fairly easy rn. And stack drop a defeaning.
I’ll test and and post some numbers
Or logs
Only negative I see is flat full str drop
junior ivy
hi
undone sun
hi
umbral forge
Hi
junior ivy
what are you guys doin
umbral forge
I'm nude~ whats up girlfriend?
naive panther
@hidden trout I tried. The tides comes but soon after the rest will too. That pack screws me over too. That one and then the three pack at the start of the next bridge
hidden notch
Whats with the magic damage in take for prot i am getting my ass destroyed in above 12s
vivid quail
Hello got some questio
Is alche trinket good? Deciding to craft a geat not sure between bs or alche.
Any specific trinket that i should chase right now using mechagon haste proc and cycoblast. But feel really week
I alread have 1 thunder clap azerite on armor, for engi helm should i still choose that or choose the bomb one?
hidden trout
@naive panther I'm thinking pull tides asap and cc trap the back casters if possible
lofty forge
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to deal with Aka'ali's Debilitating Backhand (Council of Tribes in KR)? I have tanked on a bear, a monk, a pally, and a warrior, and I have so much more trouble kiting on my warrior than any other class on that fight. And even when I pop my shield wall, I still take a shit ton of dmg. Was just curious as to how others handled that.
spice ferry
taunt juggle
ezpz
you take hit, get debuff, he starts running to you
someone else taunts and runs
then you taunt back
lusty grotto
gear crit and parry it
or just step out and leap/lightfoot/intercept/tiger's lust
i never tank it
either i parry or i kite
and yes taunt ping pong also works
warm plinth
Run with a DH, have them taunt .5 seconds before Barrel Through goes off, make sure they go out of melee so they don't get fucked up. Blade Dance at <1 second left on Backhand cast, gg
cerulean tusk
Or, have a nightelf shadowmeld, hunter feint death, rogue vanish the barrel through cast at 95%, that way - you take the hit, but the boss casts barrel through for the duration of the debuff.
grand drum
or tank the hit like a boss
dark lark
for M+, are you guys still gemming/secondary trait'ing for dps?
wondering whether to gem for crit, and unstable flames vs crystalline carapace; just came back from a 3 week break so undergeared compared to my friends
spice ferry
haste is a safe bet, benefits offensively and defensively
crit is just better for DPS
if i can only have one minor, what should i pick?
onyx vessel
3 BoMs 3 DCs
ionic fern
Lucid is pretty meh as a minor tho. I'd suggest worldvein if you have other allies near you with it or VoP.
sick sentinel
Personally if we are talking minors I would take crucible over lucid. Or even sphere.
take your worldvein minor and slide it into the bin
quick yarrow
Morning, what essences are good for this week Shrine of the Storm ? Vison and Null Barrier? or Vission and Lucid ?
sick sentinel
I'll just use null r3 because it does a lot of damage
naive panther
@hidden trout That sounds possible
sick sentinel
@vivid quail just saw your questions
- alchemy trinket is very very good and it's not getting replaced soon
- your other trinket can be a haste punchcard or a good proc on rezan's or goreblock
- you should only ever have 1 deafening crash trait on your gear so you should choose that on your engineering helmet and also the Gismo trait (RNG for short) and then reforge the other piece you have and choose a non-DC trait
gaunt oriole
Guys, i dunno about my tank in m+, it feels like i take too much dmg, is there something else besides shout, shield block, ignore pain, last stand and shield wall i can use to mitigate dmg, i try to rotate them to my best ability but it feels like sometimes the heals have problems to top me, or is it just the way it is with fortified?
vivid quail
@sick sentinel thank uu so much
sick sentinel
@gaunt oriole you should always the new healing pots handy and you should be using stormbolt and shockwave and your intimidating shout to interrupt certain abilites or spells
if you are taking a lot of raw damage while facetaking melee hits your shield is probably really really low ilvl or you are doing something wrong
gaunt oriole
I try to have my shield block up whenever its rdy and use ignore pain when i have the rage, and then rotate last stand and shout on groups, is there more to do? Guess i should look out for the crucial dmg abilities the mobs do and interrupt/reflect them
But i guess thats how you play warrior, its not something i do totally wrong when i follow this routine right?
Should i use ignore pain as often as possible?
undone sun
it's only really a big rage dump
sick sentinel
you should never not have shieldblock up
except when there is like no damage
you should look into how to cheese more effective shieldblock uptime with shockwave or letting it drop while your dragging mobs etc
steady pollen
What do i need to type in the macro for Spell Reflection to say when its up?
atomic creek
/say
or /party or just / whatever chat you want to say it in
example
#showtooltip Spellreflect line 2 /cast spellreflect line 3 /yell Spellreflect up dont interupt shit heads
end of example
runic spruce
Good minor essences for m+ tanking??
atomic creek
lucid dream
runic spruce
yeah thought so just checking, thankkyou
atomic creek
major should be vision of perfection
runic spruce
Yeah running vision already, cheers
atomic creek
go with 3 BOM and at least 1 deafening crash im at 85% crit block whenever avatar is active XD
steady pollen
ty
atomic creek
YW
sick sentinel
if my armor reduced dmg by 50% and block by 30%, does that mean i have 80% total dmg reduction during block? or 65%
spice ferry
80% I believe
slate ingot
good morning fellas, i already have a impassive trait, should i take gemhide or a 2nd impassive
I took a 2nd bloodsport over rezans as well
sick sentinel
Impassive is our best inner and it stacks
slate ingot
ya
sick sentinel
Bloodsport is bad tho
slate ingot
ok so take rezans?
sick sentinel
I would, but you should try to find a better piece for that slot
slate ingot
my chest has bloodsport and a callous
sick sentinel
Callous>bloodsport for mplus
slate ingot
right on
sick sentinel
They are both bad though
slate ingot
ya lol
atomic creek
i got lucky with my 430s on the first week and got 3 BOM 2 DF and one IF
slate ingot
sweet
sick sentinel
What's the other option over your DCs
Because it would be a good idea to have only 1
atomic creek
Schemeing
sick sentinel
No
atomic creek
most of the Mythic + warriros i see run 2 Def crashes
sick sentinel
If you can go 3bom 1dc 1if 1 ms you're almost bis
Yeah, no it's not good
It was slightly better before the nerf
But if you run more than 1 dc after nerf you're straight up bad
atomic creek
whats IF?
o iron fort
nm
no ya that is what i would have then 3 bom 1 if 1 ms and 1 DF
sick sentinel
Yeah that's really really good
If you want even more damage you can go 3bom/1dc/2ms
atomic creek
unstable or Carcapace?
atomic creek
ok so last queation i have a 420 crit dom mastery mace or the servant splitter 430 from WM should i go for the stats or the weapon bleed proc that does 19k over 12 seconds
sick sentinel
Always ilvl on the weapon
Everything scales with your attack power and your attack power scales with weapon damage
atomic creek
would that matter if it was a haste mastery weapon as well or just always IL
sick sentinel
Also, the bleed is very strong in st
ilvl
And run more dungeons that drop 1h I guess
atomic creek
ok cool ya i did notice it was doing about 3-4% of my damage single target
ok so currently im running naga hide for the shield
sick sentinel
Force multiplier
atomic creek
its wierd i kind of see the enchant all over the place for warrior
i see quick force naga and even sypen on those guy who are doing the 2 _ keys
22*
sick sentinel
Quick if your haste is low
Naga hide if you want pure defense
The best overal is force
atomic creek
would 20 % be low?
sick sentinel
not really
spice ferry
Anyone who runs siphoning is a memelord
undone sun
and not a good one
marble cipher
MS trait, can't really think of what that acronym stands for, help me :-)
Metic scheme?
atomic creek
meticulous scheming
marble cipher
Kk, thanks
atomic creek
theone that gives youhasefor useing 3 differant abilities during its proc
marble cipher
Don't think I've ever had it on my warrior
strong forum
finally done with rings for this patch
sick sentinel
nice lmao
strong forum
had to craft this fucking ring 4x
kaege buy my gems, i have like 5000 gems on AH rn cuz of that shit
marble cipher
Good gold in the red and green gems though :-)
But crafting those must have set you back quite a bit
strong forum
its not good gold tbh
i spent 55g per osmenite
and the yellow and reds are like 70g
but theres some scumbags selling like 5 individual gems at 48g to drop the price, i set em still at 75g
sick sentinel
can you comfortably read that font or is that a troll
strong forum
ive gotten used to it
for 1st timers its too narrow, but ye, after a bit of time you dont see the difference to normal fonts
ah ye btw @sick sentinel i only get like 25 procs per dungeon from VoP major, running the minor i get 30 hits of the heal, with major active i get roughly 55. so i dont think its good whatsoever
random dock
For m+, would it be better to have 2 Iron Fortress traits or 1 Iron Fortress and 1 Bloodsport?
mystic pilot
hey all, what benthic pieces should i be farming for on prot warr?
round vortex
Does anyone have the blockable / refelctable Spreadsheet for EP yet?
rapid jewel
reflect is in the tanknotes, check pin. Not blockable is just radiance add and first boss big hit if i am correct
round vortex
What about solo soaking the Crush on Mythic Sivara? looks easy enough to just block right?
Tank notes doesn't mention it
agile spruce
rank 3 CoF minor doing like 2 mil damage over a dungeon is nice
rapid jewel
you can solo it, but you cant block it. Be sure to use demo for it.
sick sentinel
@random dock iron fortress
random dock
Thanks!
strong forum
im playing around with anime
only did 1 dungeon so far so i cant say much but it did 5m
so not too bad
had a couple 200k dps spikes with it 😃
eternal plover
You have to make quite big pulls to make anime Work though.. im a fan of CoL rank 3. Works well everywhere, but might lose to anime in freehold and motherlode
eternal plover
It adds quite big value to a weak spot for prot warriors in dungeons, in my opinion. And thats the single target dmg.
I dont think we need more aoe :) unless its very trash heavy
But i agree with you. Anime is awesome for big aoe
strong forum
well dungeons are 90% about trash, and like 110% about trash on fort weeks
but yeh
could be good
eternal plover
I used anime during the past week. And it seems to be quite bad in less trash heavy dungeons. I am yet to try the rank 3 CoL on those for comparison
strong forum
ye in temple its obv garbage
or KR
varies from dungeon to dungeon
i can see CoF being really good for those 2
eternal plover
Do you ever use the null barrier ?
eternal plover
I thought it might have a very niche use in KR fort, but thats about it.
eternal plover
Yeah i tried it in shrine on rank 3
I dont know if we were just too awesome with interrupts, but the overall was very low
Overall dmg from null minor that is
eternal plover
True :p question is then if you actually let casts through :o the risky game
eternal plover
Because if you check like sivarra mythic, the null barrier minor seems to do a LOT of dmg when the spell dmg is uninterruptible
eternal plover
I was actually surprised to see just how big that dmg number was
strong forum
i mean its 2.5k dps
eternal plover
Yeah! Its insane man
strong forum
assuming it breaks every time
which is highly likely in mythic
on every boss basically
except maybe court
eternal plover
Hmm wonder if ignore pain will take some dmg away before the null Shield
eternal plover
xD 20 tanks
strong forum
is it tank only?
eternal plover
Yeah :'(
strong forum
unluck
eternal plover
The ST potential coming from 3rd minor is quite amazing. CoL major, VoP and null minor drooling
(for raids)
agile spruce
CoL?
eternal plover
CoF*
void berry
Hey bois ! Question. Got a chest where I have a choice between Deafening Crash (got one already), Iron Fortress or Reckless Fury. Main content is raiding. What would you choose ?
rapid tide
Mhm. Killing Ashvane later, do I want to aim for the tank or dps trinket for M+ on Prot 🤔
I kinda don't want the tank trinket.
strong forum
dps
rapid tide
Ye, thought so. It's good for M+ I'd imagine?
strong forum
ashvane dps trinket is best for dps in any case
willow scarab
the trinket is really good for defensive play and high m+
coral is for dpsing bosses
it doesn't stack on aoe right?
rapid tide
Perfect. Basically what I thought. What do I pair it with?
strong forum
rezans id say
willow scarab
coral inkpod for inkpod crit at 30%
rapid tide
Or basically just treat it as another CD and just use it with like every other Avatar or when parry needed?
willow scarab
for dungeon i'd run edict urchin tbh
rapid tide
My Rezan's Luck is amazing, ran 12 ADs over the last 3 days.
willow scarab
or barnacle urchin
willow scarab
but for dps i'd use barnacle block
strong forum
defensive for m+ nani
rapid tide
Won't be killing Gorgonzola anytime soon so probably not Inkpod.
strong forum
we always have
rapid tide
When did we ever not?
strong forum
how is that even a question 420 vs 435
sockets dont even have 5ilvl value on weapons
rapid tide
Ah well. Let's pray for Rezan's in the next 10 ADs then and DPS on Ashvane.
strong forum
what you want is the weapon damage
rapid tide
And until then I'll just run Gore-Crusted 😦
strong forum
both are good
strong forum
thats too much crit
rapid tide
Seeing that I have like 12% base crit that shouldn't hurt me ther.
strong forum
i wouldnt run double crit nor double haste
rapid tide
I'm like... REALLY not geared towards crit.
Mhm.
Briny I won't be farming this ID, cba to run multiple Shrines.
willow scarab
i use to use 415 socket block over a 425 rezans
rapid tide
And never really liked it anyways.
willow scarab
last seaason
briny is very nice to play with especially if you get the special proc on death
strong forum
tfw never even got a warforged block
willow scarab
tfw already got a 435 socket block
strong forum
laughs in 430 haste mastery leech +s
willow scarab
how is one man so talented at getting loot
strong forum
cries in 2 healers getting 450 on radiance
breh you have ashvane warden cuirass
youre not one to talk
only 445 i have is engi
willow scarab
owned
i saved up for 3 months to get this chest
tfw you saw an ele replace a 445 shield with 445 +s this week
strong forum
ah
didnt roll a 445 yet
too scared to get garbage
gonna roll shoulders next week
and pray i get zaq chest from HC whenever we do it
willow scarab
that is the giga one but you want a fattie 445 for prog
what key do you do each week? i can already roll another 445 i just don't know which slot i want
strong forum
only 15s
willow scarab
true
willow scarab
crazy that each +1 gives you 2k more TR
strong forum
cuz i got 0 pieces week 1
rapid jewel
who the fuck gamble on 430? Shoulders are very few bad ones or am I wrong?
strong forum
so i was tilted and bought a piece
and got trash shoulders
so i went in next week and got semi-decent shoulders and rolled 2 chests
cuz again, i didnt get anything from heroic
i rather have good 430s
than a trash 445 humtol
rapid jewel
yeah just kill zaqul hc 😃
strong forum
ya totally
just get loot lol
xcept i never got shit from heroic
only 1 weapon and 1st boss chest
thats it
from 3 clears
and the trinket from zaq
rapid jewel
got 455 gloves from hc this week
strong forum
i dont have titanforges
ever
the only kinda forge i get is sockets
i never got a 425 in 8.1.5
only 1, on my alt pally
thats it
rapid jewel
last patch i had 0 luck, bit this raid showered me with loot so far
expect rings, but i dont care so much about htese
strong forum
rings are the thing i care most about
tbh
next to azerite and shield ofc
and thankfully im set for the entire patch on those
strong forum
well i am 438 equipped, but thats most due to crafting, weekly chest, and 3 mythic pieces
spice ferry
Daaam
sick sentinel
I'm 440 equipped,could go to 441 but my rings have sockets
sand egret
429 baybeee
chilly brook
I’m like still 400 cuz I left to LA for this job two days after the patch dropped and will be here until August
spice ferry
Rip
wispy plume
I’m 438 I could be 439 but I have socket rings. I also have 430+socket boots that I use in m+ for the crit but I use my 435 in raid for a little more armor
58 neck
sick sentinel
when something says "increases your block by 150" where do i see my total block nummer? not %
warm plinth
Uhh, I don't think you can. You could add it up though. The only sources of block are your shield and certain azerite traits.
sick sentinel
that is very weird......
warm plinth
Yeah, kinda. I even have an addon that shows additional stats like movement speed, and it doesn't have block on it.
wide gate
sick sentinel
deja doesnt show it
warm plinth
Yeah I use Deja; it doesn't show it.
sick sentinel
How much TR does scrapping give? Guildie asking and I’m known to spew out misinformation
rapid jewel
415 got changed to 400 if i am not incorrect
warm plinth
I think that's only benthic 415s. 400 benthics give 180 instead of 115 too.
rapid jewel
I scrapped a lot old 415, pretty sure its 400, butits not a lot if you need 47500 for one item
warm plinth
True story
oblique garnet
old 415 only gives 365 new ones give 400
warm plinth
So only things obtained in s3 give 400?
oblique garnet
yes
analog swift
^^^^
hard sigil
gloves 415 with haste/mastery/speed/avoid/socket vs 425 crit/mastery
warm plinth
The 2nd one
strong forum
das alotta tertiaries
hard sigil
didnt know you can prock 3
warm plinth
You're a lot of tertiaries.
strong forum
😊
edgy oxide
sorry if this question is stupid but at which % is the haste cap for prots?
warm plinth
There isn't one
edgy oxide
are you sure i heard some people talking that there was one
warm plinth
I'm 100% sure
serene kraken
do i tripple stack bastion of might/ callous reprisal for m+?
warm plinth
Bastion, yes. CR, no. It's arguably our worst class trait (except for maybe Bloodsport)
warm plinth
You need one Deafening Crash. The other two are pretty open
warm plinth
Iron Fortress is good, some of the generic traits are good
serene kraken
so right now i have tripple bom and double dc and 1 clockwork hearrt
warm plinth
Nomeratur is good okay
strong forum
the perfect setup for m+ is 3x BoM 2x MS ( meticilous scheming ) and 1x DC
as far as last patch goes
current one has yet to be found out
warm plinth
What you have is fine
serene kraken
is the winds of war trait any good?
strong forum
thats the dodge thingy right
serene kraken
ye
strong forum
never used it
warm plinth
It's okay for pure survival but I wouldn't use it over pretty much anything else
Just because pure survival is unnecessary
serene kraken
i see, have you tried arcane heart?
strong forum
doesnt sound too appealing. Hard to get good value out of it
but i have yet to try it
warm plinth
Yeah I agree. It'll get better as gear gets better (since you'll accomplish the requirement easier) but I don't know if it's ever going to be spectacular.
serene kraken
would you go ilvl over better 2nd ring trait?
serene kraken
ill get links for my items
junior ivy
hi
serene kraken
hello
timber nest
does avatar affect the cyclonic blast damage ?
serene kraken
only versa/crit/haste and trinket ilvl
umbral forge
hey senpais
strong forum
crit doesnt
umbral forge
understandable have nice day
hushed sand
Nothing else ? :p
serene kraken
not an expert but it seems like another defensive cd
624 parry is around 12% not sure about avoidance
strong forum
i have 1k parry
and thats 13%
so its like 8% parry and like 10% avoidance
maybe more avoidance
serene kraken
oh im look at my thing wrong 29% total parry for me 1385 adds an addition 17%
does the raid bot link show you my azerite items?
strong forum
only the ones equipped
serene kraken
warhelm of the dread water vs greathelm of the tender ? i would chose the first one
strong forum
on chest take BoM CR Elemental Whirl/Globules
Warhelm of Dread waters with BoM DC HMC
on shoulders BoM Clockwork Blood Siphon
sick sentinel
I have NEVER seen more than 1 tertiary on an item
serene kraken
i have another chest item first ring has deafeaning crash/brace of impact 2nd ring has BoM third ring earthlink/azerite globules/crystaline carpace
strong forum
well i have a shield with socket+leech
sick sentinel
sockets are not tertiaties
sick sentinel
this guy said speed and avoidance
FUCK globules
earthlink
globules are only for ST
strong forum
:angery:
serene kraken
i forgot to add barnacle chest is at 430 ilvl and the 2nd chest is at 415 ilvl
serene kraken
what neck combo gives me the most damages?
strong forum
ST its CoF r2/r3 + null r3
aoe is yet to be determined, but most commonly its VoP+lucid/cof/null r3/worldvein ( generally what you find best )
strong forum
that also
serene kraken
ill sim them and post back
lusty grotto
johnny kaege
serene kraken
does moment of glory stack?
serene kraken
would you double stack over a longstrider?
lusty grotto
defensively speaking yes i would
strong forum
prot warri doesnt kite
warm plinth
I can't be bothered to go back to Pandaria to get one of those
lusty grotto
do you want to kill your dps?
warm plinth
Weird that you guys would even mention that mount here anyway
lusty grotto
then yes run conflict and strife
lusty grotto
😎
warm plinth
😏
serene kraken
talents i should be going 1,1,2,3,2,1,1?
warm plinth
🍿
warm plinth
That's our official guide though 🤔
The admin of the Discord is the one who wrote it, and the one who pinned it. Might be worth reading 🤔
robust bronze
this any good for tanking?
sick sentinel
nope
sick sentinel
that's dangerously low
junior ivy
i have a question about nintendo 3DS
sick sentinel
comp to the other trinket like it
junior ivy
if i were to play an emulated nintendo 3DS game on my pc, would it make more sense to use an xbox controller or SNES controller?
lusty grotto
both work
sick sentinel
get a switch
warm plinth
I wasn't even aware that there was a way to hook up a SNES controller to a computer.
lusty grotto
i guess she means the snes form factor
serene kraken
you can get snes controller for the switch
junior ivy
i have a usb snes controller
lusty grotto
also depends on if the 3ds game uses the analog stick or not, the snes doesnt have analog sticks
lusty grotto
and yes for X/Y you will need an analog stick
junior ivy
so xbox controller is good?
junior ivy
how much are 3dses though
warm plinth
$90 at Gamestop, less on eBay
junior ivy
nah too much
serene kraken
alright guys thanks for all the help i think im ready for my +15 key now 😛
junior ivy
we dont even have a gamestop herew
warm plinth
Oh, well then whatever you have there that's similar. Ehstop
round glade
So anyone here that has done Ashvane mythic?
if there is any tricks we got there or just the usuall
shut summit
Zerker rage the bubbles
round glade
Aye
shut summit
Use spell reflect pretty close to on CD during noshield phase cuz you can reflect that pulsing aoe
shut summit
Actually does dmg to her, nothing amazing but free dmg
agile spruce
Briny Barnacle at 440 any good? other options are 430 - Vial/urchin/chain of suffering
warm plinth
For survival I'd probably use Vial+Urchin. For DPS, Vial + Barnacle
inland mesa
Urchin survive, barnacle dps
lusty grotto
nice
gz gz
im debating making the other side portal just to get that one chest there
lusty grotto
lmao
warm plinth
I'm glad I don't raid so I don't have to get that essence.
lusty grotto
but its good for keys
warm plinth
Not good enough that I'm going to be using it all the time, and in that case I can't be bothered.
lusty grotto
this is the kind of thing YOU KNOW blizzard will nerf
warm plinth
I'll get it when they decide that reputation requirements for all alts is stupid and changes it.
warm plinth
Or in like 3 months when I finally get exalted because the only rep I've farmed is the WQ lol
warm plinth
Now you only need 10 more
lusty grotto
3 more
warm plinth
?
lusty grotto
its 15
lusty grotto
ah yea
shut summit
🙃
warm plinth
I read it as you needed 11, muh bad
inland mesa
Theres a guaranteed one in a chest somewhere?
And does avatar or anything else buff cyclotronic damage or just higher punch cards?
warm plinth
The only guaranteed one is the WQ. Chests are 100% RNG
And no, Avatar can only buff warrior abilities; it's a white-listed buff.
That goes for most other damage increases as well, except probably vers
inland mesa
Theres no higher than 404 blue card is there?
warm plinth
Blue cards don't affect the trinket's ilevel
You can have no card in the blue socket at all and it doesn't matter
inland mesa
So basically just highest yellow
warm plinth
Yep
inland mesa
Hmm debating on cyclotronic ink or edict ink for ashvane
tough vault
... Looking at Bloodmallet, a benthic helmet is simming best for dps across the board. Turns out I have that one, should I dump pearls in there to upgrade? How reliable is Bloodmallet in that regard, and does it take into account combo with other pieces?
Icy veins guide says so too - damn guess I'm dropping pearls
analog swift
Blood mallet does not take into account combos. Gear compare does
warm plinth
Yeah pretty sure bloodmallet sims everything in a vacuum
tough vault
still would be the better piece with max upgrades and Im drowning in pearls
warm plinth
Just keep in mind it costs like 420 pearls to max out an azerite piece
tough vault
Yeah -- simming it now. If I take the 420 Zanjir scaleguard faceguard over 430 warhelm of dread waters, it'd still be a dps gain. Plus I can stick with deafening crash on chest anyways vs iron fortress
also i get to stack 2 undulating tides?
what I do know is I'm not scrapping pieces just yet :S
also for some reason quick nav is simming better than force multiplier again, what's up with that
strong forum
comfy ML 15 timed
mint adder
That was my first 15 last week
jovial jewel
any suggestions on a td this week?
sweet kettle
Try to kill the packs like a normal human and dont die
grand drum
Bring a dk or use LOS for ranged mobs that dont like to move out of sanguine
cloud rose
Keep an eye on the lowest hp mob and be ready to run when it spills its red wine everywhere
And yell at any fuck that stuns the mob in it
Also the mobs that run away can fuck up your positioning plans so watch out for that bs
heavy belfry
Hey guys, thinking about rolling a warrior for M+ keys, wondering what the best race is or if it mattered? Alliance
sick sentinel
dwarfs provide really good buffs for m+
you can delete dots and bleeds
like in KR
or delete grievous stacks
heavy belfry
dark iron ,or regular?
sick sentinel
regular gives you some %10 damage reduction which isnt bad if needed but i prefer darkiron it gives str buff
you can also use it for damage a bit if there is nothing to get from it
overall both are strong imo for m+ as a tank specialy for prots since bleeds and dots is bad for us
heavy belfry
Coming from DK so
strong forum
dark iron gives you 1% melee dmg reduction passively
the active gives you strength
the more dots you dispell with it the more strength you get
and normal dwarf gets 10% physical dmg reduction from active for 8 seconds or smth
so either works
and if you wanna be full mdi, go nightelf and you can do crazy skips
rapid jewel
mdi is full alliance I guess?
grand drum
Void elf cause it makes you pretty
rapid jewel
why do they suck so hard in raiding?
strong forum
they dont suck
grand drum
More recruitment/people on horde
strong forum
its just that most people are on horde
and more people
attract more people
thats how it works
rapid jewel
propally the reason why blizz gives up allianz/horde in 9.0 forever...
strong forum
well thats just rumours
but yes, if it happens thats 100% the reason why
like the playerbase is 50-50 but alliance is only highend pvpers and ultra casuals
and horde has all the raiders cuz sometime in the past they fucked up racials
and now all the raiders are continously going horde
cuz theres more raiders to recruit
rapid jewel
I was actually wondering there wasn't some big progress guilds to change to alliant because of racials and warmode bonuses.
rapid jewel
nah, not really. a full transfer they can pay with a few boost from a month
strong forum
its 55€ per person.
that is alot
not to mention they have 5-6 alts
thats over 300€
per person
how is it not pricy again?
and for what
the racials dont benefit them in raiding
rapid jewel
yeah, but limit transfered several mains + alts, just to obtain 400er items from warfronts. to change back later
rapid jewel
they payed simple 9 million gold, thats a few boosts for them
strong forum
still stupid
theres absolutely no upside to going alliance
as a top end guild
if youre already established with everything on horde
rapid jewel
I think the most annoying part is the AH market on alliance is to small for the guilds
strong forum
unless youre OCE, cuz they for some reason are alliance dominated
patent charm
Auction houses are neutral nowadays
strong forum
theyre not from what i can tell
rapid jewel
are you sure?
strong forum
what ever gave you the idea
only thing thats shared is black market
normal AH is still faction based
and maybe wow token
tough vault
iirc AHs are shared over faction? Faction specific items just won't show up.
cloud rose
Thought they merged it in wod?
tough vault
so you can't get that BoE with horde crest on your alliance char.
cloud rose
That’s what’s showing up on google at least
trim locust
AH are faction neutral now
warm plinth
Normal AH is not faction-based; they're merged.
strong forum
no idea
trim locust
You can get friend on alliance to buy your item that you put up on your horde char
On normal ah
outer dew
100% shared
Would of been impossible for midwinter to stay as horde for Sargeras for quite awhile
molten rivet
does reckless flurry works for protection?
undone sun
Yes
molten rivet
in the tooltip it says only for fury
undone sun
Have to switch to fury to enable it, but the auto attack damage increase works for prot
shut summit
tooltips are notoriously bad, so ye
molten rivet
ok thx
real thunder
Hello i just got Ashvane's Razor Coral, do you guys use it for every avatar or is there a recommended way to use it?
sick sentinel
uhhh so how does simming work as a tank
undone sun
Same as it would for any other role, highest damage output @sick sentinel
sick sentinel
you just want highest dmg?
undone sun
As usual simming works, yes
If you're asking about defensive Sims, it's not possible
sick sentinel
well theres no way to really sim what azerite talents will be best
undone sun
Not defensive ones, correct
sick sentinel
bloodsport or shadow of elune for mythic+?
what name plates do you guys use? i tried Plater but it shows too many nameplates through walls
like it shows dudes way too far away throgh walls
undone sun
Bloodsport is quite bad, shadow has a 1rppm and i'd honestly pick it over bs
@sick sentinel pretty sure plater is heavily customizable, meaning you can change both of those problems
exotic spoke
Sup
carmine light
Ik it’s not normally the thing to do but as prot warrior should we be simming for dps?
carmine light
I guess as not a lot of variation in talents to be more of a defensive or offensive build. I’m going to sim for dps I guess. Maybe not for traits and stuff idk.
spice ferry
Defensiveness largely comes through correct play. You will see a better return on investment by learning how to play and gearing for dps
inland mesa
can you buy rank 3 of dynamo without rank 2?
warm plinth
No, don't think you can buy any of the rep ones without the previous rank, despite them showing up in the vendor
worn socket
Is there any way for me to export data from Details and post them here so yall can tell me if Im being bad or not in my dungeons?
slate ingot
brace for impact or iron fortress, mixture of myth + and raid
I was thinking iron fortress but wanted your alls input
rapid jewel
i prefer IF in myth and BfI in raids
undone sun
would just be much easier to log the run, don't recall seeing anything of the sort in details @worn socket
undone sun
inland mesa
can you still spell reflect first boss temple?
shut summit
yes
night oxide
Yes it does
night oxide
cyclone i dont think you can but jolt and the other cast can be
shut summit
you can reflect cyclone if initial target isnt you
just need to be careful about jolt eating SR
lavish oracle
Anyone running Naga Hide that can tell me how much of your healing it does in an average dungeon run?
sick sentinel
where do i get all the rage in trash pulls from? is it from just taking damage or parry?
warm plinth
You get rage from being meleed and from meleeing, in addition to Thunder Clap, Shield Slam, and Demoralizing Shout (assuming you're using Booming Voice like you should be).
harsh garden
Hey guys what is your opinion on running Devastator over Booming Voice? Is is just a simple dps vs survivability (duo to the rage gain) scenario ? I've been seeing the majority of warriors run Devastator now and just wondering
lavish oracle
Booming voice every time unless you're trying to 100% parse on like a purely single target boss
harsh garden
Then how come most warriors are using it ?
lavish oracle
Because this tier is really heavy on single target bosses?
harsh garden
Mythic logs Ashvane+
Outside of Orgazoa it's the most used talents so yes it's most warriors
novel temple
timber nest
dont die
spice ferry
Your looking at top logs
To get the top log, you run the st dps talent
Not the one that is well rounded and gives surv + dps
harsh garden
ah yes I'm only looking at the "top" logs of all those 37 prot warriors on ashvane, 4 on Orgazoa and 2 on Court
sick sentinel
Not playing with bv can be sketchy sometimes
The on-demand rage is so useful most of the time
And devastator is a survivability decrease, however you look at it
harsh garden
I understand that I'm more looking for how much of a dps gain vs survivability loss it is and thus how worth it on dps push bosses it would be
lavish oracle
Does anyone know how much count emissaries are worth? Enchanted are worth 0 and Tides/Void are worth 7-10 ish?
harsh garden
Thanks for the info Kaege!
hollow bolt
sick sentinel
sweet kettle
@lavish oracle 2.02 % iirc
sick sentinel
% changes with every dungeon
tawny maple
Is the urchin trinket any good? It feels kinda meh
lusty grotto
yeah it is
tawny maple
Better than diamond @ the same ilvl?
remote tusk
The traits on the PvP Plate Chestpiece for Protection.. damn
frail yew
Which trait to prefer Realiatory Fury or Callous Reprisal ?
remote tusk
callous I think
sick sentinel
i just hit 120 20 min ago and was wondering if you guys could tell me which traits to pick for dungeon tanking? https://i.imgur.com/YXYZJGQ.png
Head, Bastion and Shield. Shoulder , Iron fortress, I would personally do bloodsport, chest. Deafening, Iron Fortress
thank you 😃
undone sun
shield is BFI 🤣
tough vault
BFI?
ah
nvm lol acronyms
I went with double undulating tides tho, rather than picking up BFI
is that a bad idea? 😛
rapid jewel
keep in mind undulatng tides stop proccing, when you procced the shield.
brittle owl
it should be p decent for damage on woyer tbh
eternal plover
@shut summit hi, i saw you talk about spell reflecting the cyclone in Temple. Can i just ask 2 questions to that? 1: does it actually do dmg to the boss? 2: do you reflect all 5 cyclones by standing in front of the boss?
rapid jewel
I tried the reflect a bit and found it unreliable (to dangerous for M+). But try it in normal if you want.
undone sun
it does reflect the damage back to the boss
eternal plover
I want to try it as well, just wanted to hear from sense, who said it was possible, what actually happens if you do it. It seems kinda OP if you remove every 2nd cyclone strike completely
(there i assume it soaks the cyclones, so noone gets hit)
tough vault
trait setup mentioned earlier. considering dropping 1 UT for BFI, but that would be a major dps loss iirc?
and yes, simming says this is best layout for dps ofc 😉
Im moreso wondering the worth of BFI
remote ruin
hey guys, can some1 help me with config my warrior WA?
i wanna have glow arround the icon if IP and SB are not active... but with the newest version i cant get this done cause of many "QoL" changes wich made this addon disgusting to me...
tough vault
#ui-addons-manager , though those settings can be managed with triggers and conditionals.
If anything WA seems more customisable than before
remote ruin
i had no problem in 8.1.5 to config my WA's but since 8.2 i cant get it done with all conditions i try...
south yarrow
@remote ruin can you send me your WA?
remote ruin
currently i use the pinned WA's for IP and SB but it seems that u cant mod them cause of their custom code
i already tried the same conditions like my rogues poinsons hava and it does not work
south yarrow
So you want the IP WA to glow if IP is inactive, and the SB WA to glow when SB is inactive?
remote ruin
ive fixed it, it was the custom options
south yarrow
👍🏿
spice ferry
how many stacks you guys swapping on m behemoth?
mental scarab
vestal edge
i thought it more just to taunt to keep healing buff active type of thing
waxen cradle
Me and the other tank for my guild were doing 10 to 12, or as per usual to keep buff active, if buff falls we taunt
We did however do Radiance first because that is what the raid lead wanted to do first
Radiance and so much IP usage =.= I felt myself die a little having to spam so much but oh well
spice ferry
yeah we did radiance first too
sick sentinel
we swap at about 8-9
waxen cradle
In terms of dps gain where does Overwhelming rank against Guttripper for M+ ? Mainly asking due to how fast the Overwhelming haste buff falls in M+ I would imagine its also dependent on how much haste you have though
Not falls so much but diminishes to be more exact
undone sun
Above, doesn't fall as fast as one might think because of the ICD
waxen cradle
Was just considering running Guttripper and then thought about how fast mobs die below 30% health and whether it would even matter really as the haste buff stays active in some form and Guttripper is a chance to proc however a pretty good chance it will. May just have to play around and see what I like better
vestal edge
i mean i would think gutripper would only be better in a st situation as overwhelming power isnt just one damaging ability that haste is fueling all your thunderclaps, revenges etc. giving you more of those overall in an aoe situation i would think would outdamage gutripper like i said unless it was t
st
vestal edge
first 445 azerite buy lul ez haha
cloud rose
What ilvl should I be before stepping into a 10+? Did a 9 with my disc priest buddy and got destroyed
Currently at 419
cloud rose
Yeah, we actually got to 102 deaths on that run...
vestal edge
damn
queen fulcrum
+10 should be no issue at that ilvl to be honest
random elbow
419 is more than enough for a 10.
crimson vault
Tell your disc buddy to learn holy for grievous weeks
strong forum
you can do a +10 at like 400, if you have a good group even lower
astral crystal
spice ferry
Rather than guessing, do what large says