protection

[strong forum]

Well except 1st boss

For some reason I'm scared of first boss

[odd ledge]

...or, rather, of people ignoring the debuff change? :>

[void berry]

Or people just running around like headless chickens.

Good luck to groups trying to pug it.

[spice ferry]

First boss is maiden all over

[sick sentinel]

I went into first boss hc

As fury

Never done the fight before

Never seen the fight before

Absolutely zero clue what the mechanics were

[strong forum]

Ye so what happened

[void berry]

Exactly the kind of people that will kill the pugs :')

[strong forum]

Don't build up the suspense and then end on nothing

[sick sentinel]

We just killed her

I got a 95 log

Still no idea what the mechanics are

When I was green I stood in green and when I was blue I stood in blue?

And something knocked me back

So I could get free charges

[strong forum]

Imagine living the life of grug dps...

[sick sentinel]

Zugzug

[mint imp]

Hey guys, what guide do you find better? The one on icy veins or wowhead?

[exotic spoke]

Icy veins

[mint imp]

ANd my second question would be why? 😄

[strong forum]

Cuz I haven't read either but icy veins is written by prot lord marok owner of this discord and he's trustworthy

[arctic sedge]

yeah

[exotic spoke]

It’s better and more accurate in my experience and also what nome said

[mint imp]

Ok, i just read both and seeking where is the true because in some cases they differ a lot

[arctic sedge]

truth is on the icy veins one

should i be using anima instead of pov on progression? like, i dont feel like pov does a lot

at least not on rank 1

[hidden kindle]

how do Bloodthirsty Urchin and Edicts of the Faithless stack up against Diamond laced refracting prism and idol, assuming 15 or 30 ilvl differences?

[void berry]

Anima in raid ?

Wtf

[arctic sedge]

Yeah well my co tank is running it lmao

So was wondering if it was actually good

[strong forum]

No it's terrible in raid

@hidden kindle edict is kinda meh unless you have it on 430+ it scales heavily with ilvl . Urchin is quite good

But diamond is better cuz for urchin and edict you need to take damage, its way better for say a monk

[exotic spoke]

Perfection does a lot, even on rank 1

[hidden kindle]

i have the two old ones at 415 now and ill have the new ones at 430 and 445 relatvitly soon

[exotic spoke]

Like, a huge difference in avatar up time

[hidden kindle]

so just thinking whether or not to replace at 430 or wait for 445

or if its even worth then that is

[strong forum]

430 might come equal with the 415 diamond

At 445 it's worth, but before that idk

[hidden kindle]

hmm okay

[lavish hornet]

Hey, we are a little confused in my guild about Azshara Heroic, do any of you know how and when she phases on p4? It's definitely not hp percentage.

[lavish hornet]

Yesterday while progressing, she phased 3 times with 1 tidemistress still up

So I'm afraid that is not the case

[real ginkgo]

P4 starts when the adds are both dead or azshara gets to 40%, whichever comes first

[lavish hornet]

We had 1 try on p4 with Azshara at 54% and 1 tidemistress still up, so we really don't know how to explain it

Anyway, thanks for the help

[exotic spoke]

Bugged maybe?

She had some bugs - maybe this is another

[final mist]

@lavish hornet you got any logs /vods of that?

[vivid sparrow]

I only m+. I was wondering would it be best to go ahead and buy all 3x 430 pieces today with TR? Or wait to buy 1x 445 piece next week and just stick with the 415s I have?

[willow scarab]

Buy 430 azerite so you can actually keep up with keys

get 445 later

[lavish hornet]

@final mist https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Mdy8hzAwmRbjvta6#fight=21

[exotic spoke]

What fumeiyo said

[willow scarab]

I wonder if it's because of how long your kill is

It's suppose to be when the adds die but you're at 52% in 8:09, we killed it in 7:00

So maybe the phase just goes so far over time that the next phase starts as a soft enrage

[scenic haven]

kill serena ignore lady and nuke boss

works if you overgear it

[sick sentinel]

what punchcards would you guys recommend for the mecha-trinket?

[brisk ferry]

I use Haste for both red and yellow, and blue doesnt matter

[exotic spoke]

Cyclotronic for red

Haste / crit if you can get it at a high Titan forge. Otherwise the highest haste / X you can

[strong forum]

I have the blue fall dmg reduction thingy, kinda funny

Red cyclo for parsing

[exotic spoke]

And yes, bluebfor fall damage.

Above and beyond cyclotronic for parsing it’s really good for M+ bursting down a priority target

Like say - void emissary

[sand egret]

I randomly got the one that "redistributes stats"....and I gotta say you get some really absurd results

not even 100% on what it does, but oh man when it procs

[warm plinth]

Is it still making stats go negative or did they fix it?

[sand egret]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

mine aren't negative, but I get an absurd swing of Vers when mine pops off. Like +37%

[warm plinth]

Holy shit

That doesn't seem right XD

[sand egret]

yeah Vers major and haste minor in the yellow

this is on my bear so I become a very, very thick meatbag

[strong forum]

It's bad, cuz you want all stats

[exotic spoke]

It prioritizes based on the yellow card you have equipped

[strong forum]

Like, if you have haste vers proc you deal less damage because you lose crit and mastery

Literally pointless

[sand egret]

not really in my case

[strong forum]

I lose like 60% of my damage with that proc

[sand egret]

20% crit < 30% increased overall damage

[strong forum]

You'd had 0 mastery

[sand egret]

i don't

[strong forum]

Which makes your crits deal less

[sand egret]

i have ~20% post proc

[exotic spoke]

He’s on a Bear when he had it

[strong forum]

Ye that's bad

[exotic spoke]

He mentioned earlier

[strong forum]

Like, BoM is completely gone with the proc so it's uber bad

Imo

[sand egret]

the way my stats are set right now (just the RNG life) it ends up distributing in a nice way

[strong forum]

Can't imagine a scenario where you don't want all stats to exist

[sand egret]

uh

taking a huge amount of magic damage

[strong forum]

Like. You want haste more more claps, you want crit for crit, and mastery for big hits

[sand egret]

where an extra 20% damage reduction via vers helps

[strong forum]

Talking dps, not survivability

[sand egret]

you're also not even talking about what I am, as I'm not talking about being on my warrior

so I figured conversational cohesion was out the window

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[strong forum]

I just jumped into the card thingy

In last sentence ye

Ah bear. Ye

Idk Its a weird card

[sand egret]

there's also prob a case to be made for warrior due to ITF being a flat increase to Haste

fwiw

[last gust]

I used it for questing with a big crit/haste card. But dropped it after rep grinding due to the random drop in DR.

Using the dodge stacking card now (what I have). Stacking 2k+ (26%+) dodge feels nice.

[sand egret]

I wanna grab that card, it looks neato

[mortal brook]

drops from trash in mechadungeon. totes farmable

[sand egret]

But theorycrafting the redist card on warrior for a second

since ITF IS a flat haste increase, you can run like a Crit/Mast card and basically get moments of very, very hard claps

while still maintaining a marginal amount of haste (also gets better with Lust as that is a flat % increase)

[exotic spoke]

I honestly don’t like that card

The dodge stacking one

[last gust]

It's similar to the ability monks have.

Mechanically

[sand egret]

does it go away when you do dodge though?

[exotic spoke]

We don’t need more mitigation / avoidance.

And yes if you don’t get hit it goes away

[mortal brook]

not like elusive brawler no

[last gust]

If it doesn't refresh (take damage) for 6 sexonds

[mortal brook]

my tankadin tho, SO MUCH Grand Crusader when its high stacks

😄

[sand egret]

I mean, honestly if it stacks up to a sizeable amount that's pretty sweet imho

[sick sentinel]

it first felt kinda overpowered to get 25% dodge from one half of a trinket
but when do you honestly get it to stack that high?
im more afraid of magic/bleed dmg in m+ and for bosses it does get to like 20 stacks sometimes

[mortal brook]

any m+ pull really

[sand egret]

i'd imagine it's more of a trash-M+ thing

[last gust]

It stacks reliably on trash

[sick sentinel]

yea but it doesnt matter there really

[exotic spoke]

@sick sentinel the only fights I could see using it on things like conclave / behemoth where you cheese it and consistently max stacks out

Yeah, I absolutely wouldn’t use it on trash - need more dps

[sand egret]

like slap that badboy on necrotic week

[exotic spoke]

Necrotic isn’t an issue anyway

[sand egret]

and i'm sure it dies to dark blade

but that doesn't help this convo

[exotic spoke]

It’s all about cyclotronic right now in m+

For my group

[sand egret]

yeah that one looks cool, is it channeled?

[warm plinth]

Yes it is

[sand egret]

oof

[sick sentinel]

Thanks everyone for answering (-: glad cyclotronic is great on warrior as well, love that punchcard

[warm plinth]

Initially you could cast during the channel but they "fixed" it

[sand egret]

aye, but I guess if it puts up the numbers ya can't argue with that

[warm plinth]

Which tbh it needed to be; a little broken to do that much damage and be able to cast haha

[exotic spoke]

You can block before it goes off and it’ll continue blocking from what I hear. Looked like it was correct too

[warm plinth]

Yeah I think that's fairly typical of channeling trinkets isn't it?

[exotic spoke]

150k-300k, depending on crits, and casting wasn’t OP

And I thought opposite but that could be old school shit

[sick sentinel]

@sand egret you never run recalibration on prot warrior

[warm plinth]

He didn't; he said like twice he was on a guardian lol

@exotic spoke I would argue it was OP to cast while channeling considering focusing iris (DPS essence) does about 150k depending on crits on a 1.5 minute CD and I have to cast/channel for almost 4 seconds to get that.

[sand egret]

smh

[sick sentinel]

"But theory crafting on warrior"

[sand egret]

yeah, which is typically not answered with absolutes

[sick sentinel]

I don't think guardian has into the fray or claps

[sand egret]

esp not without any context into said statements

[sick sentinel]

I'll give you a very good reason

[exotic spoke]

It was sarcasm ghash - Sorry.

[warm plinth]

Oh

[sick sentinel]

That's why

[warm plinth]

But yeah at least in BfA I think channeling trinkets let you block. Pretty sure Grong's lets you block as well during its channel

and Merektha's

[exotic spoke]

Out of personal curiosity - not going to use it - does it redistribute the % or the rating

[sand egret]

that looks like a bug, tbh

the rating

[warm plinth]

Yeah that has to be a bug

[sand egret]

hence why that is a bug

[sick sentinel]

It snapshots your stats

[exotic spoke]

I could easily see why that happened though. It doesn’t check and snapshots

^^

[livid oriole]

you guys think there's some classes that are must on mythic Palace? 😄 thinking of rerolling my prot war but

[exotic spoke]

So when you lose BOM goodbye a fuck ton of mastery

[sick sentinel]

I'm 90% sure it is still like that

[exotic spoke]

@livid oriole are you going for a world first?

[sand egret]

yeah, I'm going to assume that negative stats is not intentional (none of my stats were going negative, btw)

[sick sentinel]

Even after bom run out

With a card with no mastery in it

[sand egret]

my temp stat gains were not causing reductions below zero after expiration

[exotic spoke]

Well yeah kaege

[sand egret]

from what I saw, but I wasn't actively testing it

[last gust]

Ran it for weeks with Crit/haste. Never observed a negative.

[exotic spoke]

You activated it while you had BoM up. It redistributes based on the stats in your yellow card

It snap shotted and saw you had say 3200 mastery

[last gust]

Just for questing though. Dont use it for real content

[sand egret]

but I'm going to assume a case where you can go negative is not intended

[sick sentinel]

Because dhs running it with furious gaze Azerite traits

Reported negative haste as well

[exotic spoke]

Took 3200 mastery away, and put it to the stats in your yellow card. BoM ran out and you lost your 1800 mastery but the redistribution was still up with -3200 mastery driving you to now negative 1800 mastery

It’s because you have a proc up when the redistribution activated

[sand egret]

well i think it's more than that

because that would apply to having any stat proc duringg it

which, are not uncommon if you factor in enchants etc

so the fact that it's only being observed sometimes leads me to believe there is an actual bug

which, could be a case of certain Azerite born stat boosts, for instance

[sick sentinel]

It is a bug

[exotic spoke]

Not really - assuming it snapshots if the stat proc is up when redistribution profs then sure.

But if the stat profs after redistribute then no.

However, it’s very likely that it’s easiest to replicate on certain classes and very noticeable on them because of large stat procs like warrior

[sick sentinel]

That screenshot is from first week

[exotic spoke]

Definitely a bug - snapshotting is bad Mmkay

[sick sentinel]

I don't know if it is still bugged

Or if it still works like that

[sand egret]

the issue would be that it sometimes snapshots at all

[exotic spoke]

@livid oriole if you’re not going for a world first then it doesn’t matter. If you’re going for a world first you already have multiple classes ready

But, why would you want to reroll from prot warrior

[sand egret]

and doesn't update

[sick sentinel]

Prot warrior is great for azhrara

[exotic spoke]

^^

And keys

[remote tusk]

Prot is great for all

[sick sentinel]

3 prot warriors can stack the tank debuff and make her take more arcane damage lmao

[exotic spoke]

And murdering people in world pvp

[sick sentinel]

Or is it 4

They'll hot fix it I'm sure

But yeah you can reflect the tank swap mechanic lmao

[sand egret]

stack arcane /balance druids

[warm plinth]

Considering they wouldn't let the g'huun reflect stand, I'm sure this will be fixed pretty fast lol

Though that was around for quite a while iirc

[sand egret]

eh

seems a biit different tbh

[warm plinth]

Same with shade; they didn't fix it until it started becoming common knowledge

[sick sentinel]

If streamers don't do it

[warm plinth]

How to keep something OP in the game: don't talk about it

[sick sentinel]

Sense was reflecting ghuun from really early

And never said anything

[warm plinth]

No wowhead article or streams = no nerf

Reck bomb never would have been fixed if that guy hadn't made a youtube video. RIP reckbomb

[sand egret]

For Azshara, does Reflect allow you to circumvent the mechanic entirely?

[sick sentinel]

No, not really

[sand egret]

then it's different than the G'huun case imho

[sick sentinel]

You can just not take a stack

[unkempt palm]

Quick question for you all, I can’t link anything right now since I’m on mobile atm but, there is wrist piece that drops from operation mechagon that is on use and it gives parry and avoidance and after 6 seconds it does a frontal cone for ~4K damage. It doesn’t have any secondary stats but I got it at 435ilvl and I used it to replace 415s with haste and mastery. Do you guys think the ilvl difference is worth it for the +Stam and strength or should I just go back to the 415s for the secondary stats? Thanks in advance!

[sand egret]

G'huun was just reflect + speedyboy to remove the things right?

[sick sentinel]

And the boss takes 50% more arcane damage for 7 seconds

[warm plinth]

Yeah

[sick sentinel]

You should use it

[warm plinth]

I'd probably use it since it's so much higher

[sand egret]

which is a bit different than reflecting for a damage buff (still big, but not getting around mechanics big)

[sick sentinel]

And remember to push the button

[unkempt palm]

Ok that’s what I figured, I use the button on cooldown (if I’m about to pull or during a pull) the frontal cone is pretty negligible but I think the parry is a good boost?

[oblique garnet]

Ghuun reflect was different because you could do like 5% of the bosses hp

[sick sentinel]

It's pretty good

[sand egret]

in addition to removing the little shits

[sick sentinel]

It wasn't removing them

[strong forum]

Kaege I think you can no longer reflect the mechanic on azshara

[oblique garnet]

You can

[strong forum]

I remember clearly me still getting the dot

[sick sentinel]

I did it yesterday

[strong forum]

Mh must've fucked up then cuz sometimes I still go the debuff

But the reflect got eaten

[sick sentinel]

You did it too early

She casts arcane missiles to everyone every 3 seconds

[strong forum]

6

[sick sentinel]

If you reflect too early you reflect that instead

Whatever

[strong forum]

Or was I only reflecting arcane bolt

[sick sentinel]

Just reflect at 1sec before

[willow scarab]

yo if good luck protection exists

why i wanna get 440 from cache

in the only slot

i have 440 already in

[hasty nova]

good morning lads

aye fumeiyo how ya doing buddy

[strong forum]

Well Im not gonna see azshara for another couple weeks / months

[hasty nova]

you ready to get your 455 shield this week in mythic?

[strong forum]

Cba heroic

[hasty nova]

we all know Nomeratur has the dark one's luck. he will be overall ilvl 445 by the end of the week.

you SoB

[sick sentinel]

@strong forum you're not gonna clear for the quest so you can craft shit?

[strong forum]

Huh?

I have killed azshara normal

[willow scarab]

praying for literally any loot

[hasty nova]

yeah i imagine most ppl are clearing normal/heroic/as far mythic as posible for eternal bells

[strong forum]

Day 1

I have 430 goggles

[sick sentinel]

Yeah for 445 googles

[strong forum]

And 425 ultra expensive ring

What

That's bullshit

[hasty nova]

Yeah i'm not sure which warrior trinkets I want from raid? I think that i'ma spam Atal for a TF rezzans eye

450 rezzans eye would make me happy happy

[strong forum]

You only need the 200 mats AFAIK

[sick sentinel]

Yeah

[strong forum]

Ye so I'm fine

[hasty nova]

Well, eternal bells you need 200 to make a focused iris thing, so that you can craft plate 440 legs/wrists with blacksmithing

[strong forum]

Exactly

Also im jew and engi

But same thing

[hasty nova]

so whats the current speculation for this week's affixes

tyranical teeming explosive?

teeming explosive is pure aids i hope it's not that

explosive is actually my least favorite affix. not very fun, hard to manage, big time reducer. unfriendly for pugs

[last mason]

are any of you guys getting 430 azerite

from the vendor, or waiting

[hasty nova]

I'm waiting for that one.

I got a 430 from heroic last week, chest.

[sick sentinel]

waiting is the play

100%

[hasty nova]

normally, i will raid and push raid as much as I can for the first 4 or 6 weeks

then after i built up res, and gotten gear as much as i can

i will see what my gear is missing and what is available for me to buy, then make a decision then. Which could be to wait more, or buy a piece.

Oh snap! Limit just defeated Abyssal commander Sivara

are servers up?

[warm plinth]

Yeah, have been for like 30 mins

[hasty nova]

wow thats an early up time

normaly it's like a few more hours right?

whats the affix Ghash

?

[hardy holly]

trajectory analisys punchcard is awesome for aoe tanking

[warm plinth]

Raging/explosive/tyrannical

[hardy holly]

yet i cannot find it still

[hasty nova]

oh wow raging explosive

better than teeming i suppose

alright thanks man

[warm plinth]

Yep

[hasty nova]

damn i will be at work for a while longer yet

sigh

[wispy plume]

BOYS

shit stats

but its 450

[willow scarab]

wtf

lucky as fuck

[sand egret]

indestructible

best stat

gonna save so much gold

[modern brook]

I dig that its an improvised shield stronger than most end game artifacts

[exotic spoke]

Indestructible socketed shield at 450
The fucking dream first cache

[lusty grotto]

play megamillions pls

also give me 1 million just for suggesting

cause you gonna win

[wispy plume]

lol nim i will if i win

no shit

[lusty grotto]

go play it IMO!

[hasty nova]

450 and a socket

my god

[arctic sedge]

lmfao nice congratz

[naive panther]

Yeah would love a shield like thst

[lusty grotto]

the most important part is INDESTRUCTIBLE

[wispy plume]

actually though

[modern brook]

no leech tho 😬

[naive panther]

I’m buying 445 az chest this week most likely

[hasty nova]

Radiance of Azshara and Behemoth pulled at same time.! two world firsts at same time!

[exotic spoke]

^^ indestructible is amazing

[lusty grotto]

the fuck outta here bull

[naive panther]

How much do you get for a 13?

[lusty grotto]

lol

[exotic spoke]

Had an indestructible 415 and loved it.

[naive panther]

I have 17k before opening my chest

[willow scarab]

13 is probably like 20k

i have 45600 atm 😦 so close

[modern brook]

How much for roll'd max ilvl?

[willow scarab]

47500

[modern brook]

yikes

im ~2 weeks out if 13 is 20k

shout outs to not preparing

[brisk ferry]

yeh same lol

[naive panther]

Ok so going to take a lot of luck for me to get it this week if I have 37k

[brisk ferry]

do we know residuum values of DE'ing a 430 or 445?

[warm plinth]

2.8 weeks for a 445 random if you do +10s

Same as for 415s in 8.1.5

[last mason]

Is it worth buying 430s now for the armor and steam boost or are you guys just waiting for 445s

Stam*

[brisk ferry]

yeh I know @warm plinth but have you guys DE'd a 430 or 445? Just wondering how much residuum we get back

[warm plinth]

Well, little higher I guess this time

Since before you could do +16s and get one every other week. Have to do +18 to get one every other week now 😦

[naive panther]

Pug heroic and craft for the 430, already have two. So saving for the 445

[sick sentinel]

Who else is stacking leech this tier

[naive panther]

Meh

[undone sun]

Hmmmm

🎣

[dreamy berry]

Clockwork Heart azerite trait? any good?

[primal crypt]

do we still mitigate while we channel?

[sick sentinel]

anyone know why thunderstruck doesnt apply? seems random

[naive panther]

I would pop it before a taunt swap etc

[lusty grotto]

Yamo

50%party it

Wdym @sick sentinel

It works every time for me

[exotic spoke]

@sick sentinel in what situation?

[lusty grotto]

Obviously doesn't work on root immune mobs

[potent anvil]

they fixed VoP

[lusty grotto]

Like at elites in rustbolt I kinda wish I didn't have it cause it makes gathering them up a pain

[potent anvil]

@sick sentinel Pretty sure it DR's. It seems to go up to 3 and then have to wait. I'll test it some more.

[lusty grotto]

It DRs in pvp

[exotic spoke]

They did? It now only reduces cooldown by 17% instead of 30 something %?

[lusty grotto]

But not in pve

[oblique garnet]

I blame deswind

[potent anvil]

@exotic spoke It was bugged, so now it works properly for Avatar.

@oblique garnet what do you mean 😡

[exotic spoke]

Oh? What was the bug?

The additional CDR?

[potent anvil]

Yes.

It was being applied twice.

[exotic spoke]

God damnit

[naive panther]

Vop was already fixed before today

[exotic spoke]

Fucking Nimchip

[oblique garnet]

it wasnt

[lusty grotto]

:o

[exotic spoke]

No it wasn’t. As of last night I had avatar at a bar cooldown of 63 seconds before AN

AM*

[lusty grotto]

I should check my logs

[merry gull]

Hi, there're some italians?

[lusty grotto]

No

Español?

[merry gull]

No sorry

[lusty grotto]

English it is

Try your best, we are fluent in broken English too ;)

[coarse plume]

So if I wanted to use devastator build for farm bosses in raid can I just flat sim DPS to figure out which essence is best or is there a particular reason that flame is good?

[lusty grotto]

I suppose so

Patchwerk it

[coarse plume]

Didnt know if simming as tank changes anything its not supposed to I guess

[lusty grotto]

It doesn't

[coarse plume]

Solid. Thanks

[lusty grotto]

Dps sims should be working

[exotic spoke]

Still upset Perfection was fixed 😦

[potent anvil]

To be fair, it's a bit op applying the reduction twice.

[lusty grotto]

Yup I agree with deswind

[still aurora]

No

[exotic spoke]

What’s your point drawing?

[still aurora]

Stop

[exotic spoke]

Deswind*

Stop what?

[modern brook]

SI, mozzerelaa parmesan pepperoni

[lusty grotto]

Wow bull

[exotic spoke]

That’s racist

[lusty grotto]

Goddamn

Mi scuzzi

Andiamo

And some food stuff

[naive panther]

I was on last night and avatar was 1.3 min cd. Whereas before it was 1.1

[lusty grotto]

Uhhh

[unkempt palm]

@naive panther is it no longer 1.1? I was on earlier but didn’t think to check it

[exotic spoke]

63 seconds was mine when I was on. /shrug

[naive panther]

Vengeance needs vop to appply like 4 times to be fair lol

Yeah just noticed it last night when I was trying to decide what to do next

[dreamy berry]

was key cap lower this week?

for gear

[naive panther]

10

[dreamy berry]

alright

[naive panther]

440 piece

But drops in dungeon we’re capped at lvl 5 415 base

[unkempt palm]

Are 10s gonna continue giving 440 from the weekly chest or are there plans that will change?

[naive panther]

Stay there if it’s like the last two tiers

[lusty grotto]

I'm confused

It's 13% cdr

The minor

That's not gonna change jambo

Until 8.3 at least

[naive panther]

1.5-(1.5*.13)=1.305

[exotic spoke]

I mean - no one is debating that it wasn’t a bug

[lusty grotto]

Right 78.3 seconds

[exotic spoke]

But it was a good bug

[unkempt palm]

Ok cool, what about the end of dungeon chest? Is that gonna stay at 415? I doubt it but just curios

[exotic spoke]

430 from end of dungeon

[lusty grotto]

Uhh

Oops

Yeah Riki is right

Basically heroic raid ilvls

[exotic spoke]

For a 10

[naive panther]

Hence all my m+ spam this week and next

[lusty grotto]

Honestly though we didn't say visions was good due to the bug

Initially at least

[exotic spoke]

Yes - I agree seoinage

And I agree Nim - but more avatar is more better

[lusty grotto]

Is still pretty much top of the line

Like with AM you get avatar at around every 39 seconds

That's not counting random activations from the major

[naive panther]

When did rage get removed from devastator and booming voice become max 6 second increase to demo shout?

I need a WA for avatar so I take advantage of the major procs

[lusty grotto]

bfa release

or actually

it was in bfa pre-patch

[naive panther]

Ok, dunno why I thought it was different

[ember plinth]

It gave 5 rage in legion, and demo shout is the azerite piece talent. Not booming voice

[sand egret]

and DC was nerfed in 8.1 i believe

[lusty grotto]

YO

[sand egret]

(to cap at 6 seconds)

[lusty grotto]

yeah DC was in 8.1

devastator was in pre-patch

[naive panther]

I just thought I remember last time I used devastator it was smooth rage gen, but must just be the 20% shield slam chance reset that gave it and I forgot about the removal. Been a while since I ran it

[lusty grotto]

yo who was the guy that worked for amazon, where the fuck is the switch pro controller now

[sand egret]

I stole it

[lusty grotto]

i can't find it, its not in the site at all

[sand egret]

yep, i bought them all

[strong forum]

Why can't Nintendo just re-release the gamecube controller for all their consoles

[lusty grotto]

ok nvm i found it

[naive panther]

Ok cause you don’t even need avatar to max it. Since that change

[lusty grotto]

still no prime day discount 😦

just buy the adapter though

[strong forum]

Gamecube controller is the best of all time

[sand egret]

I question you

[lusty grotto]

what i dont like about it its it doesn't have motion sensor

[naive panther]

I was using it on cd anyways but didn’t realize it was max 6 sec, or else my memory is bad

[strong forum]

What

[lusty grotto]

no nomeratur is right

its just only good for smash

[strong forum]

Nimchip, the motion sensor is the worst invention ever

[lusty grotto]

nope

[strong forum]

Like.. Ever

It's horrible

[lusty grotto]

aiming arrows is so easy with it in BotW

its the closest thing we have to a mouse

fuck joystick aiming

[sand egret]

pretty sure accelerometers are generally considered a dope invention

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lusty grotto]

ive heard good reviews about the powerA wireless one

but it still doesn't have motion sensors

this one https://www.amazon.com/PowerA-Wireless-Controller-Nintendo-Switch-GameCube/dp/B07GXKCX6Y/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=switch+gamecube+controller&qid=1563295902&s=videogames&sr=1-3

lmao the smash gamecube one is 75 bucks

https://www.amazon.com/GameCube-Controller-Super-Ultimate-nintendo-switch/dp/B07DJX3Y47/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=switch+gamecube+controller&qid=1563295949&s=videogames&sr=1-6

that's the re-release you wanted Nomeratur

it came out with smash

[sand egret]

I did some of Mechagon last night, it's a fun lil' place

not super melee friendly

[lusty grotto]

but you still need the adapter

yeah its horrible with 3 melee ask bull

[mint imp]

as azerite trait Callous Reprisal or Clockwork Heart?

[sand egret]

that Goop shit wasn't fun

the trash actually hurts, which is a nice change

[lusty grotto]

goop is so easy if people just stand on the water robots

and not be like the DH we had that was like HURR LET ME STAND BEHIND THE BOSS

gets gooped every time

[sand egret]

well it was more of the, everyone (all melee)) on one bot and it got gooped

soooo

[lusty grotto]

last boss with 3 melee though

YIKERS

[sand egret]

i didn't get that far

[mystic whale]

@mint imp protip: its never Callous Reprisal

[sand egret]

that place is not pug friendly this early haha

[last gust]

3 melee and a glimmer pally that wants to melee

[lusty grotto]

that's not a pro tip

@mystic whale

[strong forum]

Ye Nim I have that one I think, but it supposedly only works with smash

[brisk ferry]

I dont even know what clockwork heart is

[lusty grotto]

clockwork heart is like force multiplier

[sand egret]

https://ptr.wowhead.com/spell=300173/clockwork-heart

[mint imp]

336 haste per 1min in combat

[hardy holly]

guys the trait azerite veins has an internal cd? and if not, doesn't that mean is good when facing A LOT of mobs at the same time?

should proc sooner(?)

[lusty grotto]

well not like force multiplier since you gain all 2ndaries

[brisk ferry]

dang that seems sweet

[sand egret]

@hardy holly real talk AV looks WAY more attractive than it is in practice

[hardy holly]

why so?

[sand egret]

overall numbers aren't great, it's RNG on RNG among other things

and I do believe it has an ICD (but don't quote me on that)

don't get me wrong...when it procs just right it's great

[lusty grotto]

azerite veins is meh, there are better on that tier

[sand egret]

but that's few and far between

[dense flame]

anyone else feel like beguiling is somewhat chill. Only real emmisarry so far i've had irritation with now is the cc/int one

[hardy holly]

either that or azerite globules

[sand egret]

well glob sucks

[lusty grotto]

wdym

[sand egret]

so i'd take veins

[lusty grotto]

you only have 2 traits on that ring?

how does that work, which piece is this

[hardy holly]

no but

the build i am working on is a warrior who can solo packs of instance mobs

so no other traits are worth in aoe

at that ring

[lusty grotto]

which is the other trait

[hardy holly]

let me see what other traits you have at that ring

[lusty grotto]

wait

are you the guy

that wanted an aoe spec that was for something which was a borderline exploit

and that you couldn't say what it was?

if so

im just gonna drop from this convo

[hardy holly]

it has never, NEVER been borderline exploit or exploit at all

[lusty grotto]

can you say what it is?

[hardy holly]

i can say that it's something that becomes weaker and weaker to do the more people know about it

[lusty grotto]

ok then

figure it out

[hardy holly]

because of the prices that will go down

[lusty grotto]

im not gonna help

[spice ferry]

If your not willing to share the purpose, it is likely going to be iffy

[lusty grotto]

by all means go for veins

:p

[hardy holly]

all the major things i had to find i already found, telling what i have to do at that point would be useless

having the correct ring3 trait can make a change of 2% or something in the overall work

BY THE WAY

it's not something so hard to understand

[lusty grotto]

whatever floats your boat

[hardy holly]

farming trash in instances. that's all

[lusty grotto]

interesting how that works out

others share our knowledge with you

but not vice versa

see what i mean?

[hardy holly]

if you were in my place you would completely understand my point

[lusty grotto]

so nah, no thanks

no i dont

i report bugs, and exploits

i don't abuse them

[hardy holly]

again?

with this story of exploits?

again?

[lusty grotto]

but that's just me

[hardy holly]

it's not an exploit, nor a bug, nor an abuse

nothing like that

[lusty grotto]

again, whatever floats your boat

[hardy holly]

it's me wanting to farm something that if i let other people how to farm makes the prices in ah go to 2 gold per stack

which would annhilate the strategy per se

EXPECIALLY

[lusty grotto]

you're so protective about it

[undone sun]

Hmmm

[brisk ferry]

this is hilarious

[hardy holly]

if i go tell that in a discord where everyone has a char that can do that

[lusty grotto]

"packs of mobs"

nobody is even asking you what specifically

[undone sun]

Then why even bring it up

What's the point

[hardy holly]

it's him who brought it up

[lusty grotto]

but you don't even say "this is a 120 lvl instance"

[hardy holly]

i am just asking questions XD

[brisk ferry]

why bring this up without subtly wanting to tell everyone youve found some sort of exploit lmao

[hardy holly]

again?

with this exploit thingy?

yeah it's an exploit i'll get banned in 2 days

if that's what you want to ear

i am exploiting. yes.

totally.

[brisk ferry]

one can hope

[hardy holly]

now you should be happy

[lusty grotto]

o

k

[brisk ferry]

your suffering doesn't make me happy

[undone sun]

🤦

[warm plinth]

I mean, exploits don't necessarily mean you get banned quickly. Some exploits have gone completely unpunished. I think their point is not necessarily that you're exploiting but that since you're being shady about it, they may be contributing to an exploit unwillingly if they help you.

[exotic spoke]

Personally, i thrive on my opponents tears

[hardy holly]

yes

[lusty grotto]

right ghash

[hardy holly]

but the thing is that i am not exploiting

[warm plinth]

And you can say it's not an exploit, but that's exactly what someone who was exploiting would say

[undone sun]

And only way we could know that you aren't, is your word

[hardy holly]

YES

[lusty grotto]

In general i believe everything someone says in the internet

[hardy holly]

you are following my thought process

[undone sun]

Which for all we know could be false

[hardy holly]

so now

my question is

why going so hard on a person for the fact he could ask something that is an exploit, when you answer already thousands of questions per day to other people that could be doing the exact same and you do not even notice?

[lusty grotto]

that was sarcasm btw

[hardy holly]

tldr is why me

why specifically me

[lusty grotto]

because you're shady as hell

[undone sun]

Stand out

[warm plinth]

Because they're asking questions without saying "i'm trying to do something but I can't tell you what it is"

[brisk ferry]

cause you have one shady sketchy point rofl

[lusty grotto]

people say "i wanna tank x content"

and they specify

[brisk ferry]

mostly people ask about haste cap and ravager

[warm plinth]

And leech, don't forget leech

[brisk ferry]

we assume they're not exploiting

oh mb leech

[warm plinth]

Or you know, please forget leech

[undone sun]

Leech is exploiting to me

[strong forum]

Don't forget benthic

[undone sun]

Should be reported

[lusty grotto]

[warm plinth]

Oh yeah, benthic

[hardy holly]

okay that i really wanna know then

[warm plinth]

How could I forget benthic

[exotic spoke]

I’m at least honest about using / abusing bugs / exploits

[hardy holly]

if you say other people do not ask things that look like exploit

how are my questions making you think i am exploiting?

i am just asking aoe questions

[warm plinth]

Your questions aren't

[hardy holly]

so!!?!??!

XD

[brisk ferry]

they werent til you said you couldn't tell us why lol

[warm plinth]

The fact that you said you can't tell us what you're trying to do tells us you might be exploiting.

[lusty grotto]

IMAGINE IF WE DIDN'T SHARE INFO ON WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS GOOD

just imagine

[strong forum]

You're saying there's smth that you can't share

[hardy holly]

@exotic spoke I am honest too, I am not. XD

[strong forum]

Which sounds 100% exploit

[exotic spoke]

Then the fuck are you doing?

[strong forum]

Unless I misunderstood

[brisk ferry]

but in reality if this is some boring way of making gold, someone has probably already thought of it and it isn't worth the time

[hardy holly]

Somethin you can't share CAN ALSO BE = Something you could end up fighting for with other people and thus breaking the strategy itself

[strong forum]

Heh

I don't understand that logic

[lusty grotto]

ok guys

skyhold is closed

[warm plinth]

I mean, I understand

[strong forum]

I don't :( help me

[lusty grotto]

we're gonna keep our prot knowledge because it benefits us

sorry rest of you, but figure it out

[brisk ferry]

VoP is probably borderline exploit?

[strong forum]

If its a strategy, it would benefit all, cuz there's no downside to it

Right

?

[hardy holly]

No

There is a downside to it

There is so much downsite on other people doing it that

[warm plinth]

I'm guessing he's found a strategy that helps him farm a specific thing or a specific group of things very rapidly that sell well. If he tells a lot of people, then everyone does it and the value of that item or items drops significantly.

[hardy holly]

I am here now,.

[strong forum]

Ah, so a solo farm thingy, that doesn't work if others do it

Cuz he needs the space for himself

[hardy holly]

@warm plinth that.

[strong forum]

Or smth

[hardy holly]

you understood PERFECTLY.

[warm plinth]

Yeah, he's trying to keep his corner on the market basically

[oblique garnet]

VoP got fixed already?

[warm plinth]

Yeah pretty sure

[oblique garnet]

What is this

[warm plinth]

Bunch of people were saying CD went up yesterday

[strong forum]

What even was the bug

[hardy holly]

No I don't need the space, I need the items I sell not being 2 gold per stack

You get it? XD

[lusty grotto]

i swear to god late, im pretty sure you just asked that this morning

[warm plinth]

That's what I meant by your corner on the market. It means you don't want competition.

[strong forum]

Well you get what I mean vrae

[warm plinth]

The bug was that the CDR on the minor was twice what it should have been

[hardy holly]

@lusty grotto I have been asking somethings for that strategy for days, and hours, and you weren't here. But basically I am here since you noticed me a month ago.

Just for info

[warm plinth]

People were getting like 31% reduced CD

[strong forum]

Idc about gold farming stuff cuz I hate farming for gold

[lusty grotto]

why do i need that info though

i already know this

[strong forum]

I was too lazy to boost +10s for 35k in 8.1

So no way am I interested in any other methods

[exotic spoke]

Yeah Late, allegedly that happened. Can’t validate for 6 more hours but I’m sad

One other officer was like “Good - maybe you’ll use another major.” To which I respond “Nah. Perfection for Life”

[hardy holly]

Because it could help you understand that causing an overrage in the group for no reason won't make stop me from understanding what I have to understand

[lusty grotto]

apparently what hes doing sells so well, that its evey MORE GOLD than selling runs, which just about everyone does in here

[exotic spoke]

I stopped nim 😦

[warm plinth]

I mean, you need a group to sell runs

He's talking about a solo strategy

[lusty grotto]

shrug

well hes not gonna get help from me

[hardy holly]

But the wrost part about all of that is

I could have told that if it was some random group

[lusty grotto]

i don't like the hypocrisy of it

[hardy holly]

but no

I should tell that in a discord where literally each person can do that.

Do you really think!??!?!

[exotic spoke]

Did the perfection bug effect other specs too or just prot?

[hardy holly]

I woudn't do that even if threatened for a ban

[lusty grotto]

ghash feel free to address him i suppose :p

[warm plinth]

I think it was just prot

[sick sentinel]

What bug?

[warm plinth]

Well, wait, was it showing on tooltip inaccurately? Or just on the ability CD itself?

[hasty nova]

$20 is 131k gold

[exotic spoke]

Avatar had a 63 second cooldown last week instead of the ~76 or sosecond cooldown

[lusty grotto]

according to SEIONAGE it was displaying on the tooltip

[sick sentinel]

Nice 😊

[hasty nova]

idk why ppl don'tjust buy tokens

[warm plinth]

Because I never actually used the essence on my DH but the tooltip was accurate.

[lusty grotto]

why buy tokens though

i dont wanna give more money to blizz

[warm plinth]

Probably because tokens cost $20?

[exotic spoke]

Cause it was easier and cheaper for me to just get gold from carries

[warm plinth]

And we already pay a subscription, and gold is not hard to earn if you actually care to earn it

[lusty grotto]

so easy to just buy the tokens with gold :p

[warm plinth]

Most people that bitch about being poor are doing nothing to remedy that fact.

You can literally just farm Naz herbs/ore and make bank

[hasty nova]

well it looks that I NEED YOU as much as YOU need ME!

[exotic spoke]

And allowed me to spend disposable income elsewhere so I didn’t have to pay for wow / still don’t have to for another 2 years minimum

[hasty nova]

token system is nice

ppl like you and me working together

[lusty grotto]

i dont know what this has to do with anything lmao

[warm plinth]

Actually I'm not contributing to you at all because I don't buy or sell tokens at all XD

[winter skiff]

Where can i find best in slot for protc warrior before raiding eternal?

[hasty nova]

I am making a subjective point that farming gold takes time, depending on your life, income, spare time, it is more logical to buy gold with real life money if you are short on time than it is to spend time in the game to farm gold.

[hardy holly]

Eheheheh

[wide gate]

drop your amory guys

[winter skiff]

Also is it worth using my pearls on benneth gear?

[hardy holly]

No worries the gold I farm I farm because it's convenient to me

[warm plinth]

I would agree with that, assuming you have the real life money to spend.

[hardy holly]

Trust me on that too

[warm plinth]

No one wants to see the train wreck that is my armory

Though it's probably better than Nim's 😏

[lusty grotto]

i swear i have approximately 2.5 million brain cells that just died on this entire conversation

[warm plinth]

I kid I kid

The good news is that we have about 100 billion of them

So that's basically nothing

[hasty nova]

I have the money, i just need more time >.> sometimes i wish i could live two lives at the same time. One doing WoW ONLY. and the other with my wife, friends, beach trips etc

[lusty grotto]

idk that's significantly more than drugs do

[warm plinth]

But this conversation is a one-time thing. And if you could quit drugs, they might be as well. But I know you love your crack

That's none of my business though

[winter skiff]

Is it worth using pearls to upgrade gear? Im cirrently 385 ilvl

[frigid heart]

is 440 lingering sporepods better than socket 400 rezan

[hasty nova]

shit look at you guys with all the brain cells. I don't like losing mine, i only have like 10 left XD

[warm plinth]

Jesus

What's in the other slot Logan?

[frigid heart]

mecha

[lusty grotto]

yes Gulkamania

[warm plinth]

@winter skiff Your call. If you're not farming much or getting gear at all, then yeah

[lusty grotto]

buy benthic, use the system

[hasty nova]

#BuyBenthic

[lusty grotto]

its made to catch up

[winter skiff]

How do i jnow which b gear to upgrade?

[hasty nova]

hash that tag

[warm plinth]

What cards in the punchcard?

[lusty grotto]

which is what you should be doing

fuck sake ghash

[winter skiff]

Is zanjar the best one?

[warm plinth]

WHAT

[lusty grotto]

2.2 million more dead

[frigid heart]

that joocy haste red one and a haste yellow one

[warm plinth]

Oh

I mean, it probably is better, sadly

[winter skiff]

Wowhead stating go for the damage pieces?

[warm plinth]

40 ilevels is mucho strength

[lusty grotto]

wowhead is not our guide

its some other random's

[frigid heart]

ill just farm a 430 rezan this wk, just main swap so gear is shitt

[lusty grotto]

use icy veins

[exotic spoke]

Use icyveins guide @winter skiff

[warm plinth]

Yeah I'd try really hard to not have to use that thing

[exotic spoke]

If you feel like you can give up survivability for dps then go ahead

[hasty nova]

Welp, it looks like -as predicted- Lady Ashvane is the road block. The top guilds are starting to reclear heroic.

[sick sentinel]

I did like 20 AD runs, no trinket so...

[winter skiff]

Icy veins usung eternal palace gear

Im looking to gear up to do eternal palace

[lusty grotto]

gulkamania, use benthic and just equip higher ilvl pieces

[warm plinth]

You know what cracks me up about Skyhold? We tell people to go to the guide all the time but then when people come in asking about defensive trinkets (which are recommended in the guide) or defensive traits (e.g. Winds of War, again recommended in the guide), or defensive enchants (Quick Nav, recommended in the guide), we tell them not to use them.

[lusty grotto]

upgrade them, you will eventually replace them, so focusing on any in particular is pretty much useless

[winter skiff]

Any benthic gear is fine? Just use my pearl to upgrade?

[strong forum]

Because its a guide

For defensive use

[warm plinth]

I'm aware of that

[hasty nova]

@winter skiff EP mythic gear is what the goal should be. To kill EP bosses however, you will need a higher ilvl. Use benthic gear and mythic + to get to the point you need to clear EP ----> which gives the BiS mythic pieces

[strong forum]

Specifically a guide, not a must use

[lusty grotto]

speak for yourself

EP mythic gear is not my goal

[winter skiff]

Thank you

[warm plinth]

My point is that we're telling half the people to go look at a guide and telling the other half to use things that aren't what's in the guide. It's just a little fucky to me

[winter skiff]

So its ok to use pearls to upfrade thab

Fastest way to ilvl

[lusty grotto]

i mean

[exotic spoke]

I’ve always approached things with a “Understand why the rules exist before you break them” sort of mindset

[lusty grotto]

do you use pearls for anything else?

[warm plinth]

And frequently it's people who probably should just use the guide because they're inexperienced and probably need the handholding of extra survivability

[hasty nova]

@warm plinth yeah i agree ghash with that, I was very confused on that very thing when I first came here

there should be two guides, a defensive guide and offense one. mix signals are rough

[winter skiff]

Ep raid normal u need to be 400 ilvl?

[exotic spoke]

And it’s why I answer in a way about their experience - “if they think they can lose survivability” versus just go big dick dps @warm plinth

[strong forum]

If you know what you're doing you're gonna go for more dps instead of defensive, hence the mixed stuff

[warm plinth]

Yeah, I know. But they don't is my point.

[strong forum]

I know what you mean

But I can't explain it either

[warm plinth]

Yeah I mean, it's fine and shit. I just think it's weird. And can be confusing for newbies.

[lusty grotto]

its pretty obvious when they need to be referred to the guide

the more general case

[warm plinth]

Yeah, I wish more people in here were knowledgeable though. I love when people are like "I'm dying and I don't know why" and the first thing people start chiming in on are like azerite traits and shit, as if that's the main problem.

[lusty grotto]

is the person not doing 20s

or this season 15s

guide is both for general cases and progression

[warm plinth]

Yeah I have no issue with the guide. I just think people should be more careful about recommendations. Or like Riki said, add a disclaimer or something lol

[lusty grotto]

which recommendation in particular

[exotic spoke]

I mean - I’m terrible. Don’t listen to me

[warm plinth]

I'm honestly just rambling about shit. Ignore me.

[daring vessel]

Google mother fuckers google!!!

[warm plinth]

I'm just thinking out loud

google takes people to AMR

That's not good

[exotic spoke]

I just find and abuse bugs at times

[warm plinth]

😏

[lusty grotto]

i dont think there's any reasonable way to deal with it, you gotta take the good with the bad

[daring vessel]

Yea it was a sarcastic joke

[exotic spoke]

See: nuking horde from orbit in mechagon

[warm plinth]

Yeah I know.

[lusty grotto]

you can't realistically expect marok to write a guide for very specific cases

[warm plinth]

No, of course not

[lusty grotto]

i think i've said it a few times here

[daring vessel]

I’m the biggest believe in trial and error on your own

[lusty grotto]

but CE raiders and 20s runners ARE NOT the majority of the WoW pop

[daring vessel]

Believer

[hasty nova]

I need a video of how NerfClap fights every single mythic key route. then I need 7 hours to watch them all and take notes. then i need 10 hours to run each one.

[lusty grotto]

there's a lot of vocal ones here but

[warm plinth]

Well, there's nothing wrong with trial and error, unless you're not smart enough to realize what looks good vs. what is good.

[lusty grotto]

that's it

[strong forum]

Tfw nerfclap only parses 75

I kekd when I saw that

[hasty nova]

he to busy being a normy and making sure he doesn't die

[strong forum]

Big mdi god :^)

[hasty nova]

pepe can't heal through mobs when they pull 20 adds on fort weeks

[lusty grotto]

why are we talking about nerfclap, aka captain leech aka captain discount DK

[strong forum]

Just came up

[lusty grotto]

please lets not

[strong forum]

And I was interested cuz I saw him raid

[lusty grotto]

naowh though

[daring vessel]

There is such a thing as over extending a pull to the point where it’s not possible to survive

[lusty grotto]

that's an acceptable one

[hasty nova]

nerfclap naowh they are basically the same warrior

both start with an n

[lusty grotto]

no

they are not

please stop

[hasty nova]

XD

[warm plinth]

Naowh was a DK in Legion right? Or am I thinking of someone else.

[lusty grotto]

nerfclap was a dk

im not sure about naowh

[warm plinth]

Yeah I knew he was

[strong forum]

Naowh is biggest bdk fanboi

Ever

[warm plinth]

I'm sure most of the big named folks were either a DK or a DH

[lusty grotto]

what matters is he played warrior correctly

[strong forum]

He did world first 26 on fucking 411

Ilvl

[warm plinth]

I need vengeance to be good again so I can watch Shakib again

[strong forum]

This

Shakib is babe

[warm plinth]

He's so much fun to watch and he's so fucking on point with his shot-calling

But RIP veng

[lusty grotto]

well at least they are still okay in EP

[exotic spoke]

I mean - if you get properly itemized high Ilvl pieces with leech why wouldn’t you use them :p

[strong forum]

Cuz he was running 405 pieces

Instead of 420

[exotic spoke]

Oh, fair I didn’t realize that

[lusty grotto]

leechclap

[lusty grotto]

ok im done with prime day

sadly no switch pro controller deal 😦

[pastel holly]

are you using that myth+ essence for dungeon content like the guides or the avatar essenz from mechagon? guide says first, players i met + warcraftlogs second

[brisk ferry]

avatar essence

there's a guide that says otherwise??

[exotic spoke]

Perfection. The guide changed recently

[pastel holly]

the guide used to say blood enigma major and perfection minor. But if it changed like riki said, my bad

[warm plinth]

Yeah it says Vision major now

Vision major with Lucid/Sphere minors

[pastel holly]

thanks

[modern brook]

Is someone discussing the Nintendo game cube controller?

[inland mesa]

did anyone do Mechagon to confirm vision rank 2 is just off last boss kill?

[modern brook]

Oof ow ouch that was old

[lusty grotto]

bull

ffs

yo i havent really talked to my brother since yesterday

[wide gate]

hI GUYS do you have a list a of best benthique gear you can run as prot warrior

[primal crypt]

it's on icyveins

[wide gate]

not For azerit pieces

[primal crypt]

😄

[wide gate]

ok then i will check

[lusty grotto]

best gear is whatever you upgrade 🤷

yamo 50%party

[primal crypt]

50%party

[wide gate]

ppl going to socket

[primal crypt]

Hello Nim 😄

[sand egret]

50% squirtle

[lusty grotto]

have you been to 2 silos yamo

[primal crypt]

what's that?

[lusty grotto]

i liked that place

uhhh im not sure where it is specifically

[primal crypt]

donde

[narrow sparrow]

One of those guides says the Benthic helm has good traits but that’s about it

[lusty grotto]

virginia obv

[primal crypt]

hm

northern?

[lusty grotto]

yeah

[primal crypt]

southern

hm

no idea

[lusty grotto]

i was there last week

[wide gate]

and what's the best way farming the nazjatar perls

questing i guess

[winter skiff]

Damn 2 weeks in a row didnt get any item frown purple world quest

[primal crypt]

should have hit me up

[wide gate]

give shitty amount of theme

[lusty grotto]

went to a weird vietnamese shopping place

where this one shop was super full

[primal crypt]

Eden Center?

[winter skiff]

Where u go to upgrade naz gear

[lusty grotto]

yes eden center

[sand egret]

to the guy the questline takes you to

[pastel holly]

is that red punchcard with that stacking avoidance (?) buff still good?

[winter skiff]

I cant find him in the town anymore

Do we have a name for him

[lusty grotto]

its litereally

[sand egret]

I call him Thomas

[lusty grotto]

the only dude that's not a goblin

[primal crypt]

His name is Jaime

[sand egret]

but its the Etherial dude

[lusty grotto]

hes an ethereal

[sand egret]

or however you spell it

[lusty grotto]

ethereum?

[winter skiff]

Ok ill look for him

[sand egret]

dude in the bandages

[lusty grotto]

are we talking crypto here

[sand egret]

space mummies

[primal crypt]

@lusty grotto are prot warriors viable this tier?

[sand egret]

only if you stack leech

[lusty grotto]

yes

viable

[primal crypt]

love it

[lusty grotto]

boomies are top tier again though

[sand egret]

ranged rogues i say

[lusty grotto]

spam root on cc emmi, spam moonfire on reflect emmisary, gg

also brez and the tree amigos (which are crap now because eh)

[sand egret]

eh, they have their purpose

they live for the cause

[lusty grotto]

until that one week

then they become The TREE AMIGOS

[sand egret]

until Sang week