that place is hell
#protection
sand egret
junior ivy
im still on sargeras now
junior ivy
huh
junior ivy
do it
lusty grotto
WHO PINGED ME
outer dew
@lusty grotto now you're here bby
sand egret
Run, dude.
junior ivy
tofu are you on sargeras
sand egret
Just run
warm plinth
!
junior ivy
tofu are you on sargeras
sand egret
they're talking about meeting people in the DMV....so honestly I'm not sure what the hell this chaos is
exotic spoke
Oh joe I can see things
sand egret
prob eat pizza with a fork and knife too
lusty grotto
Hmm is discord ridiculously slow for anyone else?
sand egret
prob eat pizza with a fork and knife too
exotic spoke
Now I can see things*
Blade are we talking about the same DMV
lusty grotto
Hmm is discord ridiculously slow for anyone else?
junior ivy
yes its slow
outer dew
Yea. I'm on sarg
junior ivy
whats your name
outer dew
The gnome is pyrokinesis
junior ivy
add me to bnet
exotic spoke
technically all of us on NA servers can whisper each other if we know the server name and character name
exotic spoke
I had to delete someone to add you yesterday the
exotic spoke
Btw*. Apparently you can only have 200 people on real ID
So I removed someone who hasn’t logged in in 5 years
sand egret
that's why you gotta put the peeps you like on that MAD real ID
junior ivy
i ahd to remove real id people the other day
outer dew
You have to live under a rock if you didn't figure out my name
outer dew
Vietnamese
sand egret
dont lie, Tofu is 100% bean curd
outer dew
I just added you on btag
junior ivy
but i'll assume your last name is nguyen
outer dew
If you cant figure out my first name
junior ivy
yeah i got you lol
junior ivy
hahaha im still confused
junior ivy
yeah me to obladesong
sand egret
i did?
sand egret
pretty sure I didn't
sand egret
i have Nim here
outer dew
Tbh. Whenever I see Riki I start going
exotic spoke
Maybe nim invited you then blade?
outer dew
Riki Tiki Tavi cant you seee
exotic spoke
Lol
sand egret
fiiiine
exotic spoke
Obviously he is
outer dew
Albuut#1922
sand egret
i'm pretty sure I only have Nim haha
sand egret
funny you should mention that
junior ivy
lemme add riki or nim or bladesong 😦
sand egret
Rigatony may be making his debut
exotic spoke
Maybe nim added you to the group but I thought I did
warm plinth
Wow, transferring for Blade but not me. I see where I stand now @outer dew
sand egret
pretty sure he did
outer dew
And I transfer for you too @warm plinth
outer dew
@warm plinth gimme that btag to add, smh
warm plinth
Ghash#1346
warm plinth
I'm a real boy now
exotic spoke
Ewww amirite?
junior ivy
nim still wont let me add him guess he hates me
outer dew
Wait
outer dew
So is rigatony a hunter?
gritty vale
Are there some pog weak auras I should get?
sand egret
check the guides channel
outer dew
Being a dps only is depressing for keys and for the boys
sand egret
there's a prot-specific link in there @gritty vale
dense flame
Is the pins rec for m+ essences the combination most of you runnin? Anima major and visions minor?
junior ivy
isnt this guy on my list named balsaq from the warrior discord too
lusty grotto
Yo
warm plinth
No, those are for survival @dense flame
sand egret
I think a lot of people are running VoP major, blood
dense flame
I thought visions major was more ideal.
lusty grotto
Balsaq was a regular cat
dense flame
Ah fsho. What minor would y’all choose?
outer dew
I don't remember balsac
gritty vale
@sand egret I saw those wa but it was just ignore pain/block tracker
junior ivy
hes offline i dunno
gritty vale
is there any other commonly used Weakauras
lusty grotto
I see I see
exotic spoke
lusty grotto
It's on my profile
sand egret
not really Pulse
warm plinth
Chiptag
sand egret
well, not that I know of
junior ivy
profile?
sand egret
stewart#1561
outer dew
That's a nimchip username
lusty grotto
Lmao
junior ivy
hey riki we havea mutual friend named darcness
junior ivy
lemme see his note on my list
lusty grotto
Nimchip#1905 @junior ivy
exotic spoke
Maybe he played there for a bit. He started on bloodhoof. I think he transferred - maybe to sargeras for a bit before back here
warm plinth
Man I wish FH boosting was still a thing; not looking forward to getting my pally through BfA :/
exotic spoke
Nightelf rogue and think mainly pvp while away from bloodhoof
warm plinth
Now I'm a real real boy
outer dew
I just want to be a bench raider, and I get rejected
lusty grotto
You gotta catfish more tofu
exotic spoke
Maybe he was on rexxar
outer dew
😂
lusty grotto
Wew
sand egret
or is that a bnet thing
warm plinth
One of her 8,309,382 addons
exotic spoke
Wait
sand egret
cuz the fact that it's only "Friends" and the rest on Bnet drives me insane
ivory peak
tits?
exotic spoke
Tits? I like tits
exotic spoke
Lol
junior ivy
i made a special group for them
outer dew
Wait
warm plinth
Sure it is
ivory peak
lmao
sand egret
at this point you need to find a 4th...
outer dew
Catfriend, why you gotta expose thekey selling
warm plinth
Nah it's that alien from Total Recall
junior ivy
casue i love sellin keys lol
outer dew
So they'd be the three titsakteers?
sand egret
ooo but then it'd be one person
warm plinth
Wait, it's 3 different people all warriors named that?
warm plinth
That's...why
warm plinth
That's not even a good name; why would you use special characters to get it
outer dew
!
sand egret
just go old school aim screen names and add XxXXXxXXXxX to the front and back of the name
warm plinth
Ikr
sand egret
special characters...pssh
warm plinth
If I gotta use a special character, fuck it
sand egret
👆 truth
warm plinth
If I can't think of a good name, I just name it something nonsensical until I can think of a better one to change it to lol
exotic spoke
My names all revolve around Riki
sand egret
would you say, cat, that's the perks of being friends with some tits?
exotic spoke
Lol
warm plinth
🗞
junior ivy
hahahaha
outer dew
Surprisingly
inland mesa
Cat what is your friend add on
outer dew
I am too lazy to make similar names
junior ivy
😂
sand egret
Tofu, Tophu, Toefu, Tofuuu,Tohfu
junior ivy
whys twitch slow
exotic spoke
Cause people are clogging the internet tubes
sand egret
actually their doing some shit on the backend
junior ivy
@inland mesa
outer dew
And its Taifu
exotic spoke
Yeah that’s what I said blade
sand egret
well i'm just confirming it
outer dew
For NA alliance theres a DH tank named ihatetofu
sand egret
cuz they decided to do that shit after we were going to push a patch at th is time
outer dew
I felt attacked every time I saw him in lfg
midnight pecan
Is cursed heart on Azshara still bugged on NA? Is it even bugged or?
exotic spoke
It was bugged but Azshara seems to be killable now. Maybe they just powered through it though
sand egret
@junior ivy actually, they just told me they aren't doing shit now.... so not sure why if it's still slow
junior ivy
weird
sand egret
¯_(ツ)_/¯
exotic spoke
How much does orgozoa hit for? raw damage I mean
outer dew
I've been using it to thicken cream sauces
junior ivy
the slices? or the canned stuff?
lusty grotto
i absolutely hate american cheese
i think im the only one i know that does this
i also dislike cheddar
but hey i like all others so yeah
junior ivy
american cheese is fine on grilled cheeses
al;though real cheddar or something is nicer
lusty grotto
like mozarrella, parmesan, swiss, and any of the fancy ones that you get in wine tastings and shit are 👌
but i cant stand those 2
junior ivy
last month i spend like $16 on a chunk of real parmasan cheese
it was expensive
but i used it a lot
in a lot of different meals
and it was sooo nice
lusty grotto
parmesan cheese on french fries is ♥
junior ivy
YES i was putting it on sweet potato fries
lusty grotto
instead of salt
junior ivy
add some salty savouryness to the sweetness
im makin pork carnitas burritos sunday . homemade. doin my best. lol
vital tree
What essences are we drooling over for dungeon tanking bois?
inland mesa
Thanks cat!
junior ivy
yw!!
exotic spoke
@oblique garnet on orogozoa how much does the magic damage hit us for?
rapid jewel
orgozoa doesnt really hit hard at all, he is kinda dissapointing on heroic
oblique garnet
the soaks @exotic spoke ?
exotic spoke
Yeah
exotic spoke
With the 80% mitigation?
exotic spoke
8 or 9 stacks?
warm fern
Interjecting: what iLevel would you recommend hitting Mythics at?
I’m a fresh 120, ground my Mag’har Orc up from 20...
oblique garnet
but tbf our kill is bit scuffed benchmark
warm fern
Got to Nazjatar and holy shit, gear curve was rough. But now I’m up to 348?
inland mesa
He hit me hard on pull and that was about it on orgozoa, we 1 shot it
exotic spoke
The other officer was concerned and didn’t know how the fuck we were going to do it because dungeon journal info shows like 1.5M damage as the raw number
Sorry 1.4M for normal and 2M for heroic
inland mesa
Stacks or immunity like iceblock
exotic spoke
The numbers in the journal have to be wrong though
Because 20% of 2 million isn’t 77k lol
spice ferry
@warm fern I’m away atm, but a bit u der whatever ilvl they give out
Like 10/15 under is definitely fine to start
inland mesa
I forget if I popped anything but it tickled
oblique garnet
we just had tanks soak them
warm fern
Mmkay
exotic spoke
Yeah figured
inland mesa
We scuffed a debuff and they didnt die before it wore off so we had to immunity one
exotic spoke
Avatar + last stand or avatar + SB opener?
inland mesa
Wait they dont have to be yanked away on heroic I thought they got damage reduced or is that just mythic
inland mesa
I thought I read they had to so just did it lol, but I did mythic strats in heroic so we didnt have to relearn
ivory peak
possibly it just reduced boss damage taken? so the adds blew up quick, then back to it nd just boss takes little damage during tht small window
rapid jewel
adds get 50% damage taken reduced and deal 50% more, but the dmg from adds is laugthable. with the low spawnrate, just stack them under boss and cleave them down, while funneling into boss.
ripe mason
Alright so I'm really struggling to have a big uptime on SB.
I usually hover between 40-50% which is trash
tropic star
you looking at shield block uptime or % of melee attacks blocked
ripe mason
Shieldblock uptime.
ripe mason
I've got the specific log, if that's needed.
exotic spoke
Because bolster doesn’t show up as shield block
ripe mason
Yeah I only casted Last Stand twice during the fight
So since it was a 6 minute fight, I know I could've fit 3 in there.
Since I've got the bolster talent.
I'll just upload the log in #449510248579858432
warm plinth
More than 3. Its cooldown is affected by Anger Management as well.
tropic star
with bolster/angermanagement you can get more than 3 in there
warm plinth
Should be approximately 1 min 15 second CD with proper play
ripe mason
Ah, alright.
crystal dirge
I have around 65-80% melee block usually, depending on fight, could be more probably
exotic spoke
Lee’s now probably
ripe mason
Yeah I mitigated 82%.
exotic spoke
Which prot warrior are you
ripe mason
Queroth.
I wanted to change my name on this server to make it easier for you guys to see that but I can't change it myself apparently.
Might need to talk to someone about that.
charred void
is there a resource for tank trinkets in the new raid, not sure how good these things are
ripe mason
How do you mean?
exotic spoke
ripe mason
Alright, name's changed now.
charred void
nothing in pins, icyveins only shows bod trinkets
ripe mason
Should make it easier for the future.
@charred void https://www.wowhead.com/protection-warrior-gear-guide
charred void
just wondering how people are finding the new tanking trinkets out of eternal palace
ripe mason
This is the best that I've found.
tropic star
orgozoa is a weird one, i would prolly last stand on the pull so you can maximize rage into IPs initialls as you get the debuff. Normalyl to maximize block time you will want to shield block x3 then last stand then should be able to sbx3 again
exotic spoke
Thought I saw it
My bad if it’s not there Tay
I mean - IP will do shit all against his melee. But avatar on the other hand 
ripe mason
Probably not.
tropic star
you walledd/shieldblocked/avatared on pull which is great
but you only use 1 shield block and then didnt use any more
ripe mason
Would it be better for me to just make an opening macro?
exotic spoke
If not then it’s a healer problem
tropic star
so make sure you burn those charges
ripe mason
Sometimes my shieldblock in my opener is a bit delayed.
Alright, play around with the charges a bit more.
I don't know, I just sometimes feel that even without the SB buff I won't take that much damage.
tropic star
avatar+charge = enough rage for shield block
ripe mason
So I often just use IP instead.
ripe mason
Yeah, that's what I do.
tropic star
shield block >>>>>> IPs
exotic spoke
^^
ripe mason
Avatar > intercept > SB > SS > demo > stomp
tropic star
also as long as you have 1 BOM you get an IP on pull anyway
tropic star
ayyyy
exotic spoke
Stomp before demo imo
ripe mason
Why?
exotic spoke
And stomp after demo
tropic star
thats actually something ive wondered about these days
tropic star
wittalent nerf TC is less dmg that SS
ripe mason
Yeah I'm gonna have to get used to that GCD cycling thing.
tropic star
and as long as you avatar you are going to get you 3x claps in with demo
exotic spoke
Imo
ripe mason
I think my main problem is using defensives too early and not using them enough
Had about a 33% downtime during the fight.
Not sure if that's because of the ads.
Do ads count towards downtime?
tropic star
theres the gauntlet, wouldnt worry about it
exotic spoke
Not sure. Haven’t done it yet. That’s next for us in heroic tonight.
Regarding rotation - that’s my opinion. I could be wrong - but I’m pretty sure that’s still better
tropic star
more focused on looking at your melee dmg taken and you only blocked 50%
that is you bigest place to improve you damage taken
exotic spoke
Even worse
exotic spoke
(I can’t easily see. I hate logs on the phone)
sand egret
point remains, though
ripe mason
My whole goal right now is being able to produce decent logs
sand egret
definitely wanna look into improving your effective SB uptime if you’re sportin either of those numbers
ripe mason
Yeah, that's my main issue.
Should I look at a guide for it or is it just something you need to get used to?
sand egret
its also the most common and easily fixed issue tho
mostly feel. knowing the fight helps a ton
not blowing a SB right before a cast, etc
rapid jewel
SB uptime isn't something to strive for. If you waste a SB during a long 5 second boss cast, that SB does shit for you
tropic star
do you use last stand actively? or do you tend to save it until you feel you needed
ripe mason
Until I feel needed.
sand egret
hence why we say “effective” Sb uptime Humtol 😃
LStand + Bolster is our prime tool to go net-positive on SB charges
tropic star
with the bolster talent, last stand shoudl be used early and often
exotic spoke
You blocked 65% of all attacks
rapid jewel
did someone tried intercept on behemoth to reset his stacks? Does it work?
tropic star
a thing to focus on when you pull a boss is using 3 sheild blocks, then hitting last stand. Not because your health is low or you think its a big hit. But just using it be cause you want to reset your block charges
ripe mason
I was taking 50 stacks today because the other tank never taunted off 😛
exotic spoke
I took 50 cause that’s what we planned lol
rapid jewel
50 on heroic? He started to pummel me hard at 35+
ripe mason
No on normal.
exotic spoke
Yes
ripe mason
I'm gonna move onto heroic tomorrow.
exotic spoke
I took 50 on heroic
ripe mason
Damn 😛
rapid jewel
warrior overall looked good in the first week, nothing that bothered us hard, some nice reflects possible, safeguard kinda is a dream on za'qul
ripe mason
Yeah my health was kinda spiking on that boss.
Not that bad.
But still pretty bad.
Yeah I guess that's the SB uptime.
exotic spoke
I tanked behemoth 75% of time. 4 % co tank. 20% swim
ripe mason
Ooh, is that something I should also check?
% of time I was tanking the boss and something else?
exotic spoke
If you’re actively tanking have shield block / last stand up
It’s different on different bosses
ionic obsidian
How is the compendium of mystical bulwark?
I know I'm sure this has been asked a ton.
ripe mason
Is that an essence?
ionic obsidian
New crafted trinket.
exotic spoke
@rapid jewel I took 26k damage per second from melee attack with holding him at 50 for a significant amount of time overall I took 45k dps - a lot from biomass
Our BDk took the talent that causes the boss to heal his target every attack. He didn’t heal himself much 1 but healed me for 6k hps from mark of blood
rapid jewel
yeah if i exceed 25k dps taken, my heally are letting me die 😃
rapid jewel
nah, its my job to reduced that number.
exotic spoke
You’re going to though - radiant biomass hurts
20k physical is no big deal. 15k biomass which you’ll have up most of the time
rapid jewel
yeah but you have to count in selfheal.
rapid jewel
that fight on mythic probally will be our next grong
exotic spoke
Oh I was thinking more Paku
analog swift
^^
exotic spoke
Doesn’t seem bad at all lol
Sorry here’s number minus absorbs
33.7k dps taken
Overall for all damage
Healing received 5.7k from mark of blood.
So a total of 28.7k? That’s nothing.
rapid jewel
EHRPS?
exotic spoke
32.8k - But 5.7k was done by the other tank. So 27k for healers to do
Because we planned for mark of Blood 🍻
ripe mason
Nice.
undone sun
External healing required @rapid jewel
rapid jewel
yeah thats still to much for my taste
ripe mason
@exotic spoke I should be aiming for 80-90% blocked damage, right?
Because 65 is pretty bad.
exotic spoke
Think of it this way humtol - that’s shared between two tanks lol.
lusty grotto
As close to 100 as you can
rapid jewel
so your dk didnt tanked at all?
exotic spoke
Nope lol
We did ehrps of 26k when I play with paku the whole fight on cocnclave and kill him last. This wasn’t bad at all
@ripe mason as close to 100 as possible like nimchip said
sick sentinel
just curious, is diamond of sustenance worth it over haste food?
basically 100 str vs 93 haste
vocal flame
anyone know of a good essense guide? i got Vision of perfection of the king last night but not sure if its worth using.
sick sentinel
VoP is very good
exotic spoke
sick sentinel
from waht ive been told
vocal flame
just at rank 1?
rapid jewel
VoP is awesome
vocal flame
ahh i see it now
sick sentinel
damn has it been mathed out to be 70% uptime?
vocal flame
yeah been testing it a bit since it took us 4.5 hours to complete last night lol
exotic spoke
Don’t need tonmath it out when logs show you can get that
oblique garnet
easily
exotic spoke
Or damn close
vocal flame
only works when ava is on CD tho i think
exotic spoke
With imperfect play (me)
exotic spoke
No undeadwar
vocal flame
hasnt procced for me at all unless its on CD
exotic spoke
It will extend avatar
vocal flame
maybe unlucky
exotic spoke
Definitely unlucky
warm plinth
I mean, you aren't gonna notice it unless you're watching your Avatar duration if it procs during Avatar
Because it literally just extends BoM/Ava in that case
vocal flame
true
dark lark
Unf
vocal flame
thanks for the info!
dark lark
Vision of Perfection is the literal essence of ahegao
vocal flame
gonna see if rank two drops next week
exotic spoke
Humtol - can you healers not handle 25k hps on a tank?
sick sentinel
so someone that knows more than me about M+, 415 is the max drop right? im trying to get a shield. basically, should i just spam +1's or 2's if im not looking to push for a shield?
rapid jewel
I am just not sure what i should take as minor, lucid sounds nice but the proc rate is kinda meh.
sick sentinel
OR does higher keys have a higher TF?
warm plinth
It's the max drop for this week.
sick sentinel
ok
rapid jewel
they can if i tell them, but i am not the focus, we dont even have a pala flame on tanks
warm plinth
But you should still do a +10 if possible for next week's cache
sick sentinel
yeah ill do tha tlast minute most likely
dark lark
Do your push and then spam 5s
exotic spoke
415 is the max reward as a base. The TF cap is the tf cap regardless of difficulty
sick sentinel
ive already got +8 done
exotic spoke
Do 1 mythic 10+ If you time it then drop and do 5s/6s
If you don’t time it do an7+ to time it for essence and then drop
Do a 10 or higher toad chest reward
dark lark
So: time a 7. Do a 10. Spam 5s
exotic spoke
Paladins aren’t the best tank healers any more humtol - it’s all about the monks
dark lark
Paladins haven't been designated tank healers in a long time
exotic spoke
Basically @dark lark
If you can do higher than a 10 you should struggle through it though
rapid jewel
what do you guys take for minor? Lucid is kinda meh with the low proc rate. was considering switching to flame at rang 3
dark lark
I struggled through a freehold 13 in my first ever attempt at beguiling. With fortified bolstering and the new scaling, it felt like a 20+
neon yoke
Is vision of perfection the go to essence for all things as prot?
or should I use some others in certain situations :p
exotic spoke
Flame isn’t that good as a minor I thought humtol. Maybe sphere ?
Worldvein if you have a lot in raid
rapid jewel
yeah we have 0 worldvein
exotic spoke
Rip
exotic spoke
World vein depends on raidncomp
Also that’s defensively oriented
Also sims may be wrong - who knows.
Vision for major probably will be perka there for me
dark lark
Vision is 👉 👌
warm plinth
Defensively anima is likely better. It's basically Idol but better
But no one gears defensively in this channel :p
exotic spoke
Disagree ghash- it cant cause my raid members to die
warm plinth
Fuck you're right
exotic spoke
That’s why idol is better
warm plinth
Scratch that
rapid jewel
overall not really, VoP gives you more rage overall, boosting your def. Oh shit button anmia is better.
dark lark
Ill probably be running vision with minor lucid in M+
warm plinth
Good choice
rapid jewel
yeah lucid proc rate makes it kinda boring. Would rather go offensive, but there arent many options. Sadly we cant use unbound force minor
oblique garnet
lucid is 2ppm
exotic spoke
It felt low for me. But I could be wrong
exotic spoke
Yarp
outer dew
Doesnt ppm timer reset each time you drop combat?
oblique garnet
yeah
rapid jewel
thats 200 rage in a 5 min fight, which is n't a lot. Even lower on SB proc
oblique garnet
exotic spoke
Maybe sphere? Also yes the vers is nice
hardy kiln
How do you get rank 2 of perfection? is it hardmode?
dark lark
King Mech has to drop blueprints for it
exotic spoke
Rng drop after you get rank 1
hardy kiln
just a random drop? oh boy
dark lark
Dunno the % chance
rapid jewel
can you reclear mecha for drop?
exotic spoke
You’re loot locked so no
dark lark
Don't think so
exotic spoke
So @oblique garnet you sticking with vision / lucid?
oblique garnet
probably
exotic spoke
I don’t really see a better option for minor
I may do sphere for third when I unlock it
dark lark
Too bad we can't have fun ones that have to do with orbital satellite lasers or kamehamehas like the DPS essences
exotic spoke
The amount of bitching would be obscene if we did
dark lark
Stack that shit with blightborne
rapid jewel
at behemoth Dynamo will outshine lucid.
exotic spoke
1500 Hps and dps - even lower once swim time isnfactored in. And if you’re not tanking 100% of the time
75% of the time tanking would mean 1125 Hps and dps? Ish?
Because fuck the swim time
rapid jewel
you still have the debuff when you swap for 12-15 seconds
exotic spoke
Humtol - I didn’t swap
The 25% down time is almost exclusively from swimming
And waiting to swim
Sorry it was 20% swim time. So 1200 Hps and dps
rapid jewel
still better then 40 rage per minute 😃
hardy holly
rapid jewel
is the hardmode for the second part already discovered?
exotic spoke
Yes it’s on wowhead
oblique garnet
what trait does the hm helm have?
exotic spoke
And a mount - for 1 person
exotic spoke
You don’t need hardmode for hertz locker correct? Just flawless right
warm plinth
Pretty sure just deathless, yeah
sand egret
you know your behind when you turn in a quest....and get 3 neck levels
dark lark
🤔
elder storm
Switched to prot from rogue this tier because my guild lost a tank, can anyone give me a quick explanation of why you should choose devastator over booming voice
oblique garnet
you shouldnt
hazy lark
How do y'all feel about the new Undulating Tides trait?
sick sentinel
yo, 415 jes howler vs 400 bwonsamdi?
sand egret
jes
ionic obsidian
Just got a heroic bloodthirsty urchin. I'm curious how good it is
potent anvil
i got world first KR+14 
i will bask in this momentary accomplishment while i can 🙂
timber nest
is there a way to prevent the adds on queen azshara fight from dropping cursed heart pools on the ground?
cyan sage
400 rezan 415 jester and 415 bindstone , which do we like for M+ ??
glacial sage
Whats the cap on ip? Like how much absorb can you have
orchid token
125%
sick sentinel
100 str food vs 93 haste food?
basically the gem from the crown vs buf ffood
buff*
whenever i do get the gem
orchid token
haste.
willow scarab
no we do not
lusty grotto
is the prince dude not spawning today or what
for the other side daily
i feel like ive been waiting for an hour
oh whoops
the rusty prince does not spawn while chromie has the quest lmao
formal vine
orchid token
shouldnt need to on the first phase
second phase 30 arcane debuffs
last phase 3 void stacks
but really just swap when the debuff falls off
lusty grotto
there is no haste cap @formal vine
errant oriole
hey guys hate to ask but for weapon enchant i saw some wars with force multiplier and some with quick navigation
are they equal or whats going on?
tired lion
I played prot for the first time today doing the squid boss in EP. Let me just say that was a rush. I think I wanna main prot now
tired lion
Never played prot before except for like meme things like regular mythic dungeons. Granted it was just normal and I was 415 ilvl but still that was surprisingly not as terrifying as I thought it would be
oblique garnet
Squid?
tired lion
I call him gorgonzola
orchid token
There's no way you can get bone shield and RP rolling fast enough if you start
Imo any good tank should be able to spellward the swirl soaks
If you can't spellward them that sounds like a player skill issue
willow scarab
imagine playing the tank with the ugly spells
orchid token
Yeah okay brown class man
I'm a golden God and your most impressive spell effect is a slight rumble in the ground
orchid token
From all the arcane mages in the raid
willow scarab
boomkin
warm plinth
Havoc too. Chaos is part arcane, at least that's what Shade taught us
orchid token
Can you reflect cold blast from the p1 add?
willow scarab
I'm not sure we hven't pulled boss yet
willow scarab
yes
junior ivy
hi
mint adder
does someone have a safeguard WA?
lusty grotto
you have to be more specific
chilly willow
Has anyone here done a bit of prog on Queen Azshara heroic yet?
Guilds having an argument about the hulk getting cced by our tanks thunder clap
mint adder
a WA that tracks the safeguard buff on the safeguard target
lusty grotto
i mean
lusty grotto
i guess why would you want that, don't you have buffs on your party frames?
warm plinth
It's more difficult than a base template, so I'm out XD
mint adder
i dont have that for my party frames, but im using it for orgozoa and 7th boss
using safeguard*
junior ivy
i dont have any raid frames at all
if im in a raid, it looks like im alone
i figure this is not a problem
lusty grotto
smh
warm plinth
If you use intercept near the mechanic that you're trying to safeguard, you really don't need a WA to track the buff on them though.
lusty grotto
ima just go to sleep
warm plinth
I do if it's safe to. Extra rage.
mint adder
i mean
no wa is needed
but i want one to help me out so im not looking at it instead of boss mechanics
junior ivy
you can have whatever WA you want
mint adder
thanks catfriend
junior ivy
yw
warm plinth
I'm not saying he can't. Let me fuck with it for a second and I'll see if I can come up with something.
mint adder
was just curious if someone had one or knew how to make one
lusty grotto
mint adder
awesome i appreciate it
warm plinth
Also, @junior ivy You should try hard mode Mechagon
warm plinth
You'd have so much fun with it
junior ivy
cause gnomes?>
warm plinth
And wouldn't have a heart attack at all
lusty grotto
because gnomes
junior ivy
😄
junior ivy
ill find you one
warm plinth
Oh, it's easy
junior ivy
wh ydoesnt wagio have any prot warrior weakauras anymore
warm plinth
Open WA, click New, click From Template, click progress bar, click Buff, click safeguard
Ez Pz
It won't tell you who has safeguard but it'll have a countdown bar
Sorry, progress bar, then horizontal bar, then buff, then safeguard
mint adder
that's all i need, thanks friend
warm plinth
No worries
vocal elm
How good is Edicts of the Faithless?
warm plinth
Probably very good in niche situations
orchid token
@chilly willow any CC applied after the first will break the first and activate the immunity
I don't specifically know if thunderclap does it
chilly willow
I think we narrowed it down
According to the dude who looked over our logs, our prot warrior was using Thunder Clap
BUT for some reason his pvp talent was activated
His Thunderstruck one
red estuary
what trinket should aim for in EP
chilly willow
So his thunder clap was rooting the hulk for 1 second
Then it would cast infuriate
Which is weird because thunderstuck is a pvp talent, but someone was replicating that apparently pvping in her room when u did the /flirt stuff was activating pvp talents
orchid token
@red estuary chain
red estuary
thank you : D
thin turret
Is this working as intended for the vision of perfection and bastion of might interaction? My ignore pain gives 40k, but vision of perfection avatar procs give me only 10k absorb. Tooltip only says 25% of duration... not effectiveness
sick sentinel
@thin turret yes that's how it works sadly
A visions avatar also gives the 25% of the mastery
thin turret
😦
still aurora
What's the best way to use the chain trinket? Load it up for big Inc dmg I assume, this could be nasty in m+?
mild bough
To ninja cast it on a dps in the group to make our healer sweat.
still aurora
Oh, you can select the sucker? I assumed it would be random or who's closest.
civic holly
can any sirs direct me to tips for tanking heroic azshara please?
would very much appreciate the discord navigation help 😄
sick sentinel
A lot of it depends on how your rl does things
ionic fern
@civic holly check the first pin for general information.
mental scarab
@civic holly check tanknotes.com
cyan prism
hey ppl, you guys got any names for streamers/content creators you follow for prot tanks specifically ?
molten wedge
how is the highborne compendium trinket for tanking? i couldn't see anyhting about it in the guide
sick sentinel
@cyan prism nerfclap streams rn i think
Not anymore my bad, but his name is NerfTankTV
cyan prism
okay thanks man
wheat flower
How are warr tanks doing in 8.2?
sick sentinel
really good
wheat flower
Ty !
desert bison
Any advice for how to use ashvane razor coral?
noble forge
@desert bison i mean just stack it with your damage cds?
wont really matter since its a dps trinket
i wouldnt use it
desert bison
@seev wasn't sure if anyone had looked into if it was best to use it with every avatar or just let it stack higher for lust phases ect
noble forge
people dont usually use dps trinkets when theyre tanking
noble forge
on progression? no
strong forum
Depends on the boss tbh
exotic spoke
On a physical damage boss we don’t really need two defensive trinkets.
desert bison
I'd use Def trinkets on a hard mythic progress like another jaina but heroic I pretty much just go DMG
exotic spoke
And often we don’t need two defensive trinkets ever
strong forum
Ima just run diamond + rezan/rage
For mystic
Cuz edict trinket seems quite bad, and chains is only useful for maybe oro mythic
sick sentinel
hi is memory of lucid dreams better or worse than crucible of flame essence
sick sentinel
right ok thanks
tough vault
probably? You'd only get 5 shots per cannon tho
outer dagger
So I got a big Dribbling Inkpod last night, and as it turns out its damage isn't nerfed when you're playing prot
It's been making up 10-15% of my total damage in M+
brisk ferry
I finally got to try Operation Mechagon last night, dungeon is no joke
dim juniper
brisk ferry
check the icy veins guide
strong forum
VoP lucid is very solid
tough vault
I enjoyed Mechagon a lot
tough vault
bosses make sense. we made the mistake of going 3 melee dps tho lol
strong forum
Well that's better?
The dungeon is ultra ranged unfriendly
Cuz of So much movement
tough vault
hahaha
anyways King Mechagon was a blast. At 2% of second phase our healer and 2 dps died.
last dps died at 1%
strong forum
What how
tough vault
out pops mechagon from the bot, and I get to bash in the head of the gnome.
yay prot.
strong forum
The only death we had was 'can you fall off here?' and then he just screams 'yes you can!'
tough vault
yeah, it was people being pepega with the big beam.
our healer has a case of 'stand-in-fire-and-blame-tank'-ism.
exotic spoke
We said “if you get targeted stand still. Everyone else move”
flint wraith
Is there anyhaste cap to aim for?
or is it just haste all the way and fill with w/e
rapid jewel
just stack it, but go for ilevel first (except rings), we dont really have bad stats
junior ivy
hi
sick sentinel
hello cat
junior ivy
did you time it
modern brook
I have a 12 motherload ive been putting off
Im just super not excited for Bolstering Fort Motherload after increased scaling took effect :/
modern brook
for first week, no mythic gear thats not bad tbh
junior ivy
thats not bad
modern brook
Even catfriend thinks so
exotic spoke
Not that it means anything, especially this week, but 4 best world so far.
Some runs took 2 hours 25 minutes
😃
junior ivy
my first few 15s in BFA took like 3 hours
junior ivy
i remember this motherlode 15 on tyrannical i did near the beginning. last boss
took like 100 tries
healer could not avoid the stuff on the ground
sick sentinel
does anyone know of more minimalist weakauras?
junior ivy
yes
i actually sorta do
i like the warrior bars one, i make it small
i think i customized it and added more things though
exotic spoke
Think we had 17 deaths? Maybe 22. We fucked around a bit and when I suggested the DH go suicide to unlock a door by pulling the boss after the pack / emissary he did it then to intentionally murder us
exotic spoke
I miss maw of souls
modern brook
@sick sentinel #ui-addons-manager can probably help you more directly
modern brook
If you dont like the packs on wagio i'd highly suggest just making your own
You can really get by with like Just a CD trackers
and maybe uptime on SB/IP
exotic spoke
Despite me being bad fumeiyo
Which I know I am - I’m an old man, unfortunately set in my ways
willow scarab
How does one man click so many spells
junior ivy
how come i hjavent caught up yet then
willow scarab
FH18 even on fort was 1 shotting all of our dps
our 425 dps needed resounding protection, safeguard and opulence trinkets
sand egret
i got no idea but i got like 8 ilvls in about 30 min of playing cat
sand egret
well naz/benthic stuff is great for two reasons
easily "farmable" (as in, just do all the stuff on the map for the day and it's not bad) and it also is an easy ilvl jump to ratchet up your scaling WQs
exotic spoke
Honestly, I don’t know. But I don’t even look at my bars? I click on leap / reflect (only one of those depending on content), racial, pots, commanding
sand egret
you click reflecT?!
junior ivy
RIKI IS A CLICKER
exotic spoke
Or leap. I change depending on the content
sand egret
you are a mystery
exotic spoke
So in m+, and I had to change it mid run because I forgot, I have reflect bound
junior ivy
its ok riki i used to be a clicker
sand egret
i leap to prevent dying from falls farrrr too often to have that be a click haha
willow scarab
me too
sand egret
I also fall off cliffs a lot so there's a lot of the "oh shiiiit" factor going on
exotic spoke
Most of the things I use consistently I don’t. Shout, last stand, shieldwall, taunt, etc are all good
Bound*. All attacks too (other than throw. But if I do that it’s because I’m literally standing there on intermission
willow scarab
Don't forget to make the 420 trinkets and rings in mechagon btw
if you're doing catchups
sand egret
oooh 100% forgot about that
but I haven't done the alli quest to unlock it yet, that's next on the list
exotic spoke
But yeah - I know I’m bad. I just say I’m the best warrior on a shit server. So what that makes me is up to you
exotic spoke
For a few things and yeah you right /shrug
junior ivy
awww no be nice to riki
i used to take pride in being best prot warrior on rexxar
then i went to sargeras and sucked lol
sand egret
naw, I ❤ ol' Cliki Riki, even with his manual flaws 😉
exotic spoke
Rofl
willow scarab
There aren't that many good prot warriors in the game
But somehow my server has like 5 or atleast 3
junior ivy
i think i know a gnome prot warrior from frostmourne lol
his name starts with a Z
forget what it is
willow scarab
😊
night oxide
Are eng goggles worth it for tanking?
jagged bay
hello have a nice weekend everyone! 😃
willow scarab
Eng goggles are 2nd BiS
sand egret
yeah, their helms have always seemed to have solid traits, which is great in this wild RNG world
hasty nova
@exotic spoke yeah after we talked yesterday I realized the uptime on avatar really did make a difference. I guess i just thought it would be a bigger boost. to dps. but i'm on the VoP/luck or VoP/ageis train
exotic spoke
It’s nice though 😃
Especially in m+ right now. Having so much up time in higher keys for more mitigation to make up for the k value changes / scaling changes
hasty nova
yeah mythic plus is nuts. Honestly I make some rather large pulls on bolstering and fumeiyo was saying he might use ageis minor for teeming so i am using it now
and i'm seeing great results with it
i'm switching back and forth between that and lucid minor
exotic spoke
What key did you do?
agile spruce
Anima major and vision minor a bad combo?
hasty nova
nothing to large yet just trying to get my feet wet and learn the emissaries for the different dungeons
hasty nova
Nah if you pull a whole room, lets say on waycrest, and you aoe tab target them all down evenly it works out great.
willow scarab
I agree if your group can kill evenly
willow scarab
I don't think emissaries are even bad
hasty nova
obviously there are some spots that you cannot kite well that you don't pull large
willow scarab
I've only done one key with them and they weren't even an issue
hasty nova
yeah emissaries are not bad at all that i have felt
exotic spoke
The damage In on single pack pulls in WM 17 felt very low.
Started bigger pulls and still felt manageable