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exotic spoke
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Technically....7

But uh.... the two commanders were slightly bolstered

sick sentinel
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LOL

exotic spoke
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By slightly I mean we pulled all the packs in the third bosses room and when that happened those where the only two mobs left up

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So that’s what.... 9-10 stacks of bolstering?

warm plinth
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🤦

lusty grotto
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hmm giga bolster ftw

exotic spoke
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I’ve been saying we hadn’t been respecting bolstering all night: it just came back and gave us a taste of karma

lusty grotto
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godzillaaaaaa

sand egret
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them are some big ass horses

formal vine
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avatar procing essence does give me quite the uptime Avatar

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also enthrallers influence (new WB) trinket has good uptime

exotic spoke
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Also - 10 stacks. They had 10 stacks of bolstering

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Raw damage of one attack was 361k

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And two of them hit at the exact same second

modern brook
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@sick sentinel does asmongold do anything besides star jaw agape into a camera during mount wars?

tough vault
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clips.

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What was the potential one hit kill boss? I'll have my co-tank pull that one 😏

modern brook
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probably the eye guy

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He fucking trucks

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the hatcher dude

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Avatar prepull so u can sb before he's aggro'd tbh

tough vault
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yeah but I just kinda wanna troll my co-tank

exotic spoke
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Avatar. -> charge -> shield block

modern brook
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Its ever so slightly different to charge abatar sb

exotic spoke
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Wrong order bull

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Avatar first - then charge when your GCD is up

modern brook
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.>

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I know

exotic spoke
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Double charge 😃

modern brook
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I'm not sure what you're talking about

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But im not in disagreement

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so its a big 🤷 from me

exotic spoke
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Ahh I dunno. Fair

modern brook
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get SB up before u get punched in the face - a new novel centered on how to play prot warrior

exotic spoke
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That hurts

modern brook
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Its apart of my trilogy of non-fiction fables

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the other two of course being, shields: similar to your chest, but not yours and Foot and Boot do not rhyme but we use them both so get clapping

lusty grotto
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A guide to 👢 🍵 👏 and other prot-centric emojis by me

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here's a preview:

sick sentinel
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asmon actually talks about shit

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that is important

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sometimes

lusty grotto
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:literalgarbage: was an emoji widely used in legion to describe the worst of the worst trinkets in WoW history

modern brook
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OOF

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nim u suck lol

lusty grotto
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buy it on amazon, support your authors

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tfm8

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you know

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i tried watching asmongold... once

modern brook
lusty grotto
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yeah it doesnt work here anymore it was removed

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:literalgarbage:

modern brook
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life is agony and loss

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:^(

lusty grotto
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🥑

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An emoji used to refer to ALAVISTO, a ragey russian kid that was parts funny but you couldn't really quite tell if he was trolling because, well, russia

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ok im not gonna write the entire thing, get it on amazon for your kindle and shit

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anyway back to asmongold

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i tried watching him... once

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when he was doing the dark souls thing

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i basically ctrl alt deleted twice to a restart because that shit was absolutely horrible

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old man joke

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😢

modern brook
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hi tofu

outer dew
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I got rejected from a 5

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Pepehands

lusty grotto
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no

modern brook
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OOF

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it begins

lusty grotto
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go away tofu

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i saw your whisper

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but it was late

modern brook
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viable

outer dew
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Lmao

lusty grotto
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im sorry

sand egret
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shoulda been a bear

outer dew
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I'm a fire mage now bois

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It's over

modern brook
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:^)

sand egret
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my bear can shoot a fireball now

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im also a fire mage

lusty grotto
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them alliance though

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tf

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hol up

outer dew
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Lmao, I'm an asshole

exotic spoke
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What are you saying nim

lusty grotto
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uhhh nothing

exotic spoke
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That’s what I thought

lusty grotto
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please turn warmode on so i can kill you... with hugs, i love alliance

outer dew
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You know, I had the same key as lead last night

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And yeeted my key in

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Always wanted to do it

sand egret
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you can yeet....IN?!

exotic spoke
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It’s been on for like 5-6 days now

lusty grotto
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oh man

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that sneaky yeet

outer dew
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Yes

lusty grotto
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did they rage quit though

sand egret
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i hate the internet.

outer dew
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Tbh

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Yeet is a fun word

lusty grotto
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im going to assume they did rage quit

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alliance after all

outer dew
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Oh

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No

lusty grotto
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WTF man

outer dew
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They were pretty fobby

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So they got confused

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😂

lusty grotto
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was this a 5

outer dew
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Nah, a 9

lusty grotto
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were they pugs?

outer dew
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Yeap

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Lmao

lusty grotto
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-_-

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i dont believe you

outer dew
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I did

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We both had td 9

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And a dh was in group

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Fucking chucked that thing in

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Right at 1

lusty grotto
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rofl

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trolling metas is always fun

outer dew
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Side note

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Has DH tanks surged in popularity

lusty grotto
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idk

outer dew
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Every key I did had a DH tank

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Like wtf

lusty grotto
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i havent played an alt since like

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a month

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but now that i have flying, i might play them a bit

outer dew
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a good ole rogue alt

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Sounds pretty good

lusty grotto
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ah

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a night elf rogue alt you mean?

outer dew
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yes

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ESP

lusty grotto
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a female night elf rogue alt

outer dew
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a NE rogue alt

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tbh, i was thinking i might have to pay for a race change

lusty grotto
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idk anyone like that sorry

outer dew
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my mage is a gnome

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lmao

hidden kindle
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any of the trinkets from the raid good for us?

lusty grotto
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hey gnomes are good, if only they had smeld

outer dew
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yeap

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i was thinking

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fuck

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i pulled aggro

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tried to smeld

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and then cried because gnome racial

sand egret
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basically any non-ProtWar tank is in style atm

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mostly because it's finally a time where we're not the de-facto meta, so people are trying out new tanks

outer dew
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blade, come to NA Alliance

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it's a depressing time over here

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qq

sand egret
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I am there

outer dew
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oh

sand egret
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ya ninny

outer dew
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WTF

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where my add

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on btag

lusty grotto
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rigatony will carry you

sand egret
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haha well Rigatony is there

warm plinth
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I stopped playing alliance because Tofu never added me. True story.

sand egret
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but he's all you'll need

outer dew
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ikr ghash

sand egret
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I do have my Ret pal that I kinda just wanna pump with

outer dew
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we could of played with the dudu

warm plinth
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😦

lusty grotto
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alliance

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😢

sand egret
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but MM is just too fun to pass up

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esp being a dorf

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double the fun

sick sentinel
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Coward

lusty grotto
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btw masstercard and i started some shit in Rustbolt last night, got assassin twice lmao

outer dew
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the rp value

sick sentinel
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Not a gnome hunter

lusty grotto
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then horde was complaining about alliance cause they all raided up

sand egret
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i have self-respect.

outer dew
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tbh

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i worry about saying i'm a gnome

sick sentinel
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Self-respect=coward

outer dew
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incase catfriend pops out

lusty grotto
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careful, youll summon catfriend

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oops

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yeah

sand egret
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gnomes are just wannabe dorfs

sick sentinel
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@junior ivy

lusty grotto
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hey man my original mage is gnome

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WOW MAN

outer dew
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what a toxic guy

lusty grotto
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snitches get stitches

sick sentinel
sick sentinel
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U can't stop the inevitable

lusty grotto
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the cutest mage

outer dew
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lmao

sand egret
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maybe I just go all in on Rigatony this season

outer dew
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still in full heirloom gear

sick sentinel
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Bitch u can't see ur face

lusty grotto
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excuse me

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she has pink hair

sand egret
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weird looking paperweight

lusty grotto
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shit i dont wanna log on her again 😦

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its been too long

sick sentinel
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Damn blade

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Damn

lusty grotto
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i would have to log on Nimch too

sick sentinel
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I don't have that problem
Because I can't even log on

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I'm gonna wait a month or 2 to get carried heroic

sand egret
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is the dps M+ essence the weird kamekameha beam?

sick sentinel
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I thought that was a healer essence

sand egret
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oh hell naw it better not be

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i was promised a cool looking beam

lusty grotto
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🤔

outer dew
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Blade, you're pretty cool looking

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😉

sick sentinel
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Idk if it is, I just remembered seeing either that or another beam like it from wowhead but that article was talking about tank and healer r4 essences so thats why I thinks it's a healer one

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Blade ur not cool, ur the worst

sand egret
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I'm hip to your catfishing games, Tofu. :^)

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and yes, you'd be correct on that point.

outer dew
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wdym catfishing

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they're m,y heart felt feelings

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<33

strong forum
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:^)

outer dew
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doesn't have socket + leech

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delete it

sick sentinel
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oh fuck off nome

strong forum
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:^)

sand egret
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prob still will get a 96 parse

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fucking trash

strong forum
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i got exactly 96

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on this boss

sand egret
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yep, absolute garbage confirmed

exotic spoke
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Fucking shit nome. Get out. I need a 440 weapon

strong forum
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:^)

exotic spoke
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And or shield

strong forum
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dw ill never get a shield

junior ivy
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who pinged me

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@sick sentinel

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why

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@outer dew !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sick sentinel
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There u go

outer dew
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???

junior ivy
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SHOW ME YOUR GNOME

outer dew
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take me out on a date first

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sheesh

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ya can't just ask people

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to show their gnomes

lusty grotto
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nope i dont have gnomes

exotic spoke
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That’s a private thing

lusty grotto
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sorry

junior ivy
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show me pleasepleaseplease

lusty grotto
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yes tofu show your gnome

sand egret
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ya'll need Jesus

outer dew
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i'll show when i get on wow

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playing a league game atm

lusty grotto
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oh good lord

junior ivy
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😦

exotic spoke
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Wait - I thought everyone just had pictures of their gnome

junior ivy
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i have an instagram for my gnome

lusty grotto
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lmao

sick sentinel
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I am true chais

junior ivy
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i havent updated it since legion

lusty grotto
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lmao

warm plinth
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It's like you don't even care about gnomes or something

exotic spoke
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Oof. Low blow

warm plinth
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I mean, what am I supposed to think? She hasn't updated it since Legion

junior ivy
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😦

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😦

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youre so mean to me ghash

lusty grotto
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i think ghash means

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you need to update your insta

warm plinth
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^

junior ivy
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i will but ive been too preoccupied with no mans sky

lusty grotto
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with BFA pics!

junior ivy
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i love no mans sky 😦

warm plinth
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Well right now I'm looking at No Gnomes Sky

lusty grotto
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^

junior ivy
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lolol

young oasis
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Vision of Demise as protection?

warm plinth
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I don't even know what that is

lusty grotto
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Visions of Gnomes

warm plinth
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Visions of Updated Gnomes*

lusty grotto
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yes yes

young oasis
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trinket from 7th boss in new raid @warm plinth

exotic spoke
lusty grotto
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@junior ivy why cant you be like that gnome

sand egret
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what's the best way to claw out one's eyeballs?

warm plinth
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That actually looks pretty good

junior ivy
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the best kind of gnome is the pink pigtailed kind

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but other gnomes are acceptable

warm plinth
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The trinket, not that transmog. Idk what the fuck that is.

exotic spoke
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Wow ghash

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Wow

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Obviously he’s an engineer

warm plinth
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With a giant glowy sword, sure

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We've all seen that play out

exotic spoke
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He does lots of random things. He usually has pepe on

lusty grotto
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this is an acceptable gnome

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stewart approves

exotic spoke
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He also has a metric fuck ton of gold

junior ivy
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show me more of him

exotic spoke
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I can’t cause I’m not home. That was from the armory

junior ivy
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o okay

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remmeber that gnome i tracked down.. what was his name again

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i gotta find him

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@hard glen

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this guy

outer dew
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geeze

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catfriend has no chill with gnomes

junior ivy
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he was a cute gnome

outer dew
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wants efveryone to show their gnome

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YOU JUST CAN't call peoples gnoems cute

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come on

junior ivy
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you gotta see him though

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lemme find the pic.

outer dew
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you can't be sharing other peoples gnoem pics

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jeezuz

warm plinth
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Wow, posting other people's gnomes

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That's morally wrong

sand egret
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@young oasis , it's a good amount of haste if you can game it, but the duration is on the low end. 1 min cooldown does make it easier to use but I'd imagine you'd have to game it to really get that value

hard glen
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Nah its cool shes allowed

junior ivy
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SEE i have permission

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😂

lusty grotto
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jesus christ did you really spam him

junior ivy
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yes

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and his guildmates

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and i invited him to this discord

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and now he's here

warm plinth
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I'm not sure who is crazier. Her for spamming a random stranger, or him for actually responding after that introduction.

lusty grotto
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lmao

outer dew
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LMAO

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i think in ff14

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i saw a pig thing

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and i chased down someone on their mount

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just to look at it

lusty grotto
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im gonna be honest

junior ivy
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ok be honest

lusty grotto
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i like the gnome riki posted better

junior ivy
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no

outer dew
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LMAO

lusty grotto
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you wouldn't spam rikis friend?

junior ivy
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@hard glen has a nice transmog, and he has those funny eyes looks like hes stoned

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and hes a warrior.

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a prot warrior.

lusty grotto
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fair enough

junior ivy
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id spam rikis friend too but maybe not as aggressively

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maybe just a "hi little gnome" once or twice

lusty grotto
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hmm i see i see

warm plinth
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I think "hi little gnome" is probably the creepiest initial message you could receive from someone

junior ivy
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lmao

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😦

warm plinth
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Besides some like...Buffalo Bill type shit

sick sentinel
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

junior ivy
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hi little gnome is my go-to gnome greeting

sick sentinel
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cat you're amazing

junior ivy
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ty for appreciating my gnome efforts

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and not thinking im creepy

modern brook
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YEaH?

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you called @warm plinth ?

exotic spoke
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I’m scared for my gnomie

warm plinth
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Did I?

modern brook
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oh buffalo bill

sand egret
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might as well just rent an unmarked van at this point cat

modern brook
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nvm

warm plinth
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lmao

junior ivy
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i dunno last time i met a really adorable gnome from this discord we ended up dating for a few months 😂

sand egret
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maybe invest in some rubber tubes and ski-masks

lusty grotto
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now im scared of logging on my gnome

warm plinth
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Oh lord

modern brook
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gnome - gamer gf

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thats the fuckin play tbh

lusty grotto
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🤔

junior ivy
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dont be scared to be a gnome

outer dew
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LMAO

junior ivy
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enjoy the attention

lusty grotto
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i dont know about this

exotic spoke
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I was a gnome for a bit. I wonder if I still have pics of it. I’ll check but probably not 😦

lusty grotto
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red flags all over

outer dew
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i'll only catfish as a female NE

oak heart
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quick nav or naga hide ?

outer dew
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tyvm

modern brook
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I can only assume the natural corollary to that would be goblin - gamer bathwater

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I'm trying to be a Gamer GF tbh; my bullfangofan cash is running low

lusty grotto
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HEY MAN

modern brook
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i definitely didnt buy green fire for my quaternary alt

lusty grotto
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you gotta diversify your bonds

junior ivy
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i wish icould be a gnome in no mans sky

exotic spoke
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Wu-Tang financial! RIP ODB

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And no, I don’t have pics of my gnome on my phone

junior ivy
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aw

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i have lots of gnome pics saved up somewhere

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i can find them

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if you guys wanna see

modern brook
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😬

outer dew
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LMAO

modern brook
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can we not call them gnome pics plz

outer dew
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you can't just show other people your gnome pics

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especially of other peoples gnomes

exotic spoke
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The gnome I posted paid for me to go from human to dwarf to gnome to space goat

warm plinth
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And you should definitely not put a bow on it beforehand

junior ivy
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gnome pics are meant to be shared

exotic spoke
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Just cause he was bored. With gold

outer dew
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smh

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oi

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riki, you done mechagon yet/

junior ivy
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ive offered to pay certain people to go gnome

sand egret
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@oak heart quick nav

junior ivy
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id pay krotos to go gnome

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cause he has that nice tmog

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and it looks good on gnomes

exotic spoke
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Yeah tofu. Did it on ptr and then yesterday.

outer dew
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pepehands

exotic spoke
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Took me Maybe an hour fifteen!

warm plinth
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How is Mecha?

outer dew
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trying to find people to do mechagon

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together

exotic spoke
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?* yesterday

junior ivy
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ill do mechagon

warm plinth
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5 prot war mecha

junior ivy
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YES

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i always wanted to do a 5 prot war group

sand egret
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Rigatony has got you tofu

junior ivy
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me, ghash, riki, nimchip, tofu, bladesong

exotic spoke
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I like mechagon. I enjoy the fights and ambiance. I like the long style dungeon. It feels well designed

junior ivy
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unless any of you are horde

exotic spoke
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Nim is horde

warm plinth
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My warrior is still alliance for the time being, but only 397 ilevel

outer dew
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hmmm

junior ivy
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thats higher ilvl than me

outer dew
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riki already did it

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nimchip/blade/ghash are horde

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lol

sand egret
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ahem Rigatony says otherwise

exotic spoke
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I’m doing it again tonight for other guildees. Probably do it a third time for others this weekend

junior ivy
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i tried to mod and cheat in no mans sky but cant figure out how

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so i might give up on it

exotic spoke
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5 prot will likely not work on last boss.

junior ivy
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itll work

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i promise

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when 5 prot come together anything is possible

modern brook
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im not even considered

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damn tofu

exotic spoke
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Eh, maybe with enough CoF. Fucker hits hard and it’s magic damage as a basic attack

modern brook
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just fucking cold

warm plinth
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So it's 100% sure that you can't get the rank 2 visions blueprint from last boss first week?

junior ivy
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DO PEOPLE STILL USE COF?

warm plinth
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Crucible of Flame, not Convergence of Fates

junior ivy
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oh

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lmao

exotic spoke
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Rank that shit up and it hits hard.

junior ivy
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i was gonna say

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haha

exotic spoke
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Yeah different CoF

modern brook
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fates is the look

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hope u saved urs

junior ivy
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i remember my sister got a 925 CoF on her ret pally in legion

modern brook
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CoF + Perfection + AM + lucid

junior ivy
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and she sucked so bad

gritty vale
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Hows prot feeling in M+ seniors

junior ivy
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and everyone hated her

gritty vale
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still godtier

exotic spoke
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Strong

modern brook
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viable

outer dew
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trash

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play dudu

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sims say dudu does more damge

warm plinth
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Says the druid that isn't even playing druid

gritty vale
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you know i heard bear was better but i only see lkie 1 bear for the top 15 keys

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rest is brm/war

exotic spoke
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Unless you get hit by two commanders with ten stacks of bolstering on siege 7 at the exact same second

modern brook
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cause brms and wars are geared from last patch

oblique garnet
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bear is not better

gritty vale
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🤔

exotic spoke
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Because there’s no real reason to do keys higher than 7 lol

oblique garnet
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bear is good

sand egret
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its BEARly better

modern brook
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reported

gritty vale
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stop

warm plinth
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🗞

exotic spoke
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sigh

modern brook
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Its way to early in the season to use results as a reliable metric tbh

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your sample size is like 100 people at most

gritty vale
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i mean

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you could look at the top 100 keys

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thats 500 people

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~

sand egret
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5 man tank squads?

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cuz that math don't check out

exotic spoke
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We feel strong pulse.

warm plinth
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500 people but not necessarily 500 different people

modern brook
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thats >100 tanks, accounting for overlap since its by key not by group

gritty vale
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ye

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theres repeats

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but most likely atleast 300 unique tanks

modern brook
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like yeah you can check it, im just saying this early on its not a reliable metric

oblique garnet
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theres no point counting keys done this week

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everyone is undergeared etc

warm plinth
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Not to mention the new affix combo

oblique garnet
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even im only 425 :<

warm plinth
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Which is horrible

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And new seasonal as well

modern brook
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Not to mention the drastic effect of 30+ ilvls of secondary stat scaling and 3rd essence that will come once people are mythic geared*

exotic spoke
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And some people are just farming 6s

modern brook
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im not excited for beguiling tbh

outer dew
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riki bby, takem e to some 6 farms 😉

modern brook
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im getting back into raiding cause i feel like this season will be a 15er and done

exotic spoke
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Not home for another 5 hours

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Then mechagon. Then some WQ. Then maybe

outer dew
#

aite bby

modern brook
#

tofu ur a third priority to him

#

leave him

outer dew
#

gimme gimme that btag

sand egret
#

Riki is taking Rigatony on all the farms.

outer dew
#

and balde

gritty vale
#

im just looking for a class that i can tank in M+ and dps in raid

outer dew
#

gimme gimme btag

gritty vale
#

so rn its between ww brew | fury prot | bear feral

exotic spoke
#

What Ilvl is rigatony now blade?

modern brook
#

@gritty vale paladin is safest bet rn

sand egret
#

any choice would work Pulse

modern brook
#

of those 3, bear feral is easiest to gear

sand egret
#

of those three. Bears are in a better spot, Stagger is always gonna be strong, and Prot is still rock-solid

#

but yeah the weapon overlap on feral/bear is really nice

modern brook
#

I would def make the decision on funness to play over throughput in content

exotic spoke
#

Avatar up time is very nice

sand egret
#

I think like 380 something?

#

😃

modern brook
#

i dont think any of the tanks will be particularly bad this patch

sand egret
#

but he's got a lot of heart

exotic spoke
#

I like not having to use a GCD on a major essence

modern brook
#

maaaybe vengence / bdk its tough to call, but not unplayable so

sand egret
#

VDH feels nice tbh

modern brook
#

We've had this discussion a trillion times blade

exotic spoke
#

Oh, underwater boss is cheeseable for us in palace

vague abyss
#

cant figure out if the effect on these wrists is better than the stats on my current wrists.

modern brook
#

I will just put forth my $.02 that says the spec has a lot of fucking problems that were unaddressed in its buffs

#

But i concede that its core rotation is fun to press

exotic spoke
#

The 415 easy

#

Oh shut sorry

#

I’d do 410

#

No secondary stats on 415

modern brook
#

but 562 party :^(

exotic spoke
#

Zero secondaries bull

modern brook
#

(yeah 410 no contest)

#

it even has leech

exotic spoke
#

Easy decision.

At first I thought he was saying because of leech

modern brook
#

@vague abyss as a general rule of thumb, an activated effect needs to be very good to out do secondary stats

#

a revenge every 30 seconds and some tertiaries is not very good

vague abyss
#

i was leaning towards the 410 also, due to stats, but wasnt sure, since its new bracers and wasnt sure of their value

outer dew
#

aite blade

sand egret
#

and Bull, when I mean feel, I am speaking directly to those problems.

outer dew
#

gimmegimme

#

that sweet btag

sharp flume
#

are we still using DC-3x BoM - IF- Bf I setup?

oblique garnet
#

What

#

Never

modern brook
#

fuck dude just dm me

oblique garnet
#

Wait i misread

modern brook
#

Im tryna have this discussion just not here, you know?

oblique garnet
#

Yeah

#

Thats good setup

#

If you dont have 3 DC

strong forum
#

3x bom 1x dc 1x bfi 1x if

#

yes

#

or 2x bfi for raiding

exotic spoke
#

Yes, cause new k values hurt

modern brook
#

are the sheets updated with he new values

sharp flume
#

god seems like im luck of deffense. even m+ 9 adds hits hard

exotic spoke
#

That’s because of new k values cyborg

warm plinth
#

New k values + new scaling = ouchies

outer dew
#

just spread your cheeks

sick sentinel
#

nice and wide

outer dew
#

because prot warrior is shield dependent

modern brook
#

honestly the best advice

#

give it time, it'll feel better

outer dew
#

it's the same at the start of bfa

sharp flume
#

oh thanks. one more question. what we do against void emissary? pugging some keys but dps is not enough to burst it tho

modern brook
#

if u cant kill it before 2nd burst u find another path

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or LoS

outer dew
#

people are still in the "pop cds whenever"

modern brook
#

but im assuming ur los-ing already

outer dew
#

rather than plan out their cds

warm plinth
#

You can survive 2 casts (if needed)...gives you 26 seconds to kill it

#

But depends on key level since you really wouldn't want to drop to 25% in higher keys

modern brook
#

@warm plinth doesnt the 2nd do 100% of ur health?

warm plinth
#

No, it does 75%

modern brook
#

oh i thought it was 50+50

warm plinth
#

Base cast does 50% max HP, then the first buff gives them 50% additional damage, but it's multiplicative, not additive

modern brook
#

im retarded

outer dew
#

it's okay bull

#

we all love you

#

sometimes

#

maybe

modern brook
#

:/

outer dew
#

kind of

sick sentinel
#

you don't understand how tempting it is

outer dew
#

maybe not so much

modern brook
#

:^(

sick sentinel
#

fuck it

warm plinth
#

Has anyone tried reflecting the void emissary? I doubt it works but I am curious lol

sick sentinel
#

we know

modern brook
#

@warm plinth I'll do it later today

oblique garnet
#

it doesnt work

modern brook
#

I'll do it anyways

warm plinth
#

Yeah I didn't think so

outer dew
#

see if you can somehow make it focus someone else

#

and if you can refelect it then

#

:^)

#

good ole cylcone strike

modern brook
#

🤔

warm plinth
#

lol, it's probably an environmentally sourced cast

#

Because the casts go off even if the entire party is out of LoS I believe

outer dew
#

i know

#

i was memeing

#

qq

warm plinth
#

No memes. Just be sad we can't reflect

junior ivy
exotic spoke
#

Hmmmm anyone know if queen Azshara was killed today?

warm plinth
#

She's been killed; idk if it was today or yesterday though.

exotic spoke
#

I didn’t think she was killed last night.

I’d check wowprogress but it’s not working

undone sun
exotic spoke
#

Nah I’m just an idiot >.>

#

Time to delete the evidence

undone sun
#

👓

#

Can't hide what's inside

sand egret
#

Thyme with the Rhymes

exotic spoke
#

I’m dead inside does that count thyme?

undone sun
#

Thyme to rhyme on a dhyme

fair brook
#

Having an issue with Ashvanes coral placement. I’ve read that it’s 100% RNG but also just heard it’s ‘within 10 yards’ of a player. Anyone know? Anyone stacking up just before coral casts?

exotic spoke
#

Not sure Calav. But you have to clear it 100% after every phase. Regarding barnacle strike you will need to place the coral carefully.

Last night we tended to step into the cutting coral right before barnacle strike was cast to overlap as much as possible

lusty grotto
#

that reminds me

#

@undone sun

undone sun
#

Oh

lusty grotto
fair brook
#

Were overlapping them a lot now, after seeing how full it gets.
Our issue is getting lots of coral right up in melee while also getting some on the fully opposite wall, making destruction a huge pain.

undone sun
#

Oui oui

lusty grotto
#

its your brothers and sisters!

exotic spoke
#

Yeah, we got a good amount in melee. I had to step into coral to soak some of the orbs or move her along the outer edge of the wall quickly to bypass some coral

fair brook
#

Alright, I think we’re doing it right, stacking the coral pools, i was just hoping there was a way to control the spawns a bit to ease the destruction

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Ty

inland mesa
#

Normal azshara was, I dont think heroic was

upper surge
#
strong forum
prisma crane
#

@upper surge i'd personally go with ritual if the same ilvl, if they are the 15 ilvls apart as your links suggest, i'd probably just go with the 415 since stam is always nice and you're still getting nearly 60% of the haste of the first while also getting substantially more vers

sick sentinel
prisma crane
#

i call bs

#

need the rest of the link for research

exotic spoke
#

Lol

timber nest
warm plinth
#

No.

#

Weapons are always ilevel. Weapon DPS is too valuable.

onyx hatch
#

Anyone know which Red punch card is better Subroutine: Overclock (big Haste proc) or Trajectory Analysis (Stacking Dodge proc)?

warm plinth
#

The haste proc

thorny laurel
#

How is arcane heart for prot in M+?

sick sentinel
#

there WA for the new raid anywhere?

#

found em

outer dew
#

my "mage"

junior ivy
#

WHO IS THIS

#

awwwwwww

lusty grotto
#

is this a goth gnome

outer dew
#

yea

#

big tiddy goth gnome

lusty grotto
#

🤔

outer dew
#

how you think i catfish

#

???

#

tbh

#

i love this good

#

hood*

#

i can go hatless

lusty grotto
#

i think you catfished catfriend

outer dew
#

without losing a hat

#

wdym

#

i've always been honest

#

that my mage is a gnome

#

lmao

lusty grotto
#

catfriend what do you think?

#

would you spam whisper?

outer dew
#

tbh

#

kinda wish i have a priest

#

when i look at tthis tmog

#

but some of the pieces are mage only

#

lmao

junior ivy
#

give her pink hair

#

but yes id PM her

#

i PM every gnome though

lusty grotto
#

i see i see

young oasis
#

Is essence from King Mecha 100% drop?

exotic spoke
#

The first one I believe should be

paper dagger
#

yes

waxen cradle
#

So what is our opinion on trait stacking for EP for now are we pushing more towards dps trait stacking while still in heroic or going for more survivability based builds ?

exotic spoke
#

Do you think you need more survivability?

waxen cradle
#

No not really

exotic spoke
#

Then go dps.

waxen cradle
#

Yeah true but traits like Bastion are always nice

lusty grotto
#

uhhh

exotic spoke
#

Bastion is dps in some fights because of adds / avatar up time

lusty grotto
#

im confused

#

bastion gives you mastery

#

mastery increases attack power

#

are you saying bastion isn't an offensive option?

#

🤔

waxen cradle
#

No I am saying that "some" view other traits over bastion as means of pure dps output. Not in any way saying its not a dps option

lusty grotto
#

this is all new to me

#

apparently the week i was away changed everything

exotic spoke
#

I assume you’re talking about RF and such?

lusty grotto
#

RF and TC? i mean

exotic spoke
#

For single target fights?

waxen cradle
#

Not saying where I am getting my opinion but around the different sites I see pure dps traits valued over it

#

well damage proc ones to be exact

lusty grotto
#

ok im not gonna keep biting

#

i refuse to go back to nimchip bullying

undone sun
#

🤔

lusty grotto
#

bullyingchip

exotic spoke
#

The answer is - it depends. It depends on how good your healers are, how good you are. How geared everyone is.

If you don’t think you need it and you think your healers can keep you up then favor dps

lusty grotto
#

i hear AMR is a good other site

#

lmao ok im done

exotic spoke
#

You can sim your character to find the best dps traits for you - just remember avatar up time went up significantly

undone sun
#

🗞 @lusty grotto

lusty grotto
#

i was joking pls dont hit me so hard thyme

#

😢

exotic spoke
#

Personally, I just stick to my 3 BoM 1 DC for now and later I’ll probably add more dps in after we learn the fights.

It is extremely rare for tank dps to matter in a raid. Well the difference in tank dps from you going full survival to full dps to matter

#

Also, I e found a nice way to pad on ashvane. Wonder how long until it gets fixed

lusty grotto
#

so toxic riki

exotic spoke
#

Can’t say it. The more people who know about it the faster it would get fixed

analog swift
#

What’s the padding?

#

Rip

lusty grotto
#

that's a paddling

exotic spoke
#

Also, I lose my competitive advantage if I say it.

analog swift
#

Dude I’m just going to do it on my brewmaster to make them all seem even

lusty grotto
#

be honest, its having nimchy right

waxen cradle
#

Was a great bait however because now everyone wants to know

exotic spoke
#

But - warriors can break out of the bubbles she puts us in with berserker rage.

Just not everyone

lusty grotto
#

that's not it right

exotic spoke
#

Nope. It’s obvious we can do it because it says “incapacitated”

lusty grotto
#

but is it... cosby incap

#

or like

#

shit i really wanted to go on that dark humor ride

#

so ill just say, concussion incap

waxen cradle
#

friend posted a awesome cosby meme the other day.. said bitch please how do you know you were asleep

lusty grotto
#

rofl

#

im going to hell for laughing at that

#

seems like every 5 mins in my life

waxen cradle
#

nah its funny

#

If you are I am going also I will save you a seat

#

Dude I had a guy working with me for a while that had cerebal pausy and he only hand one had that worked and I told him to use both hands... dude I cracked up... I am definitely going for that

runic hare
#

Any opinions on the Chain of Suffering trinket for raiding?

lusty grotto
#

lol did he laugh at it

waxen cradle
#

uhh... maybe

lusty grotto
#

jesus christ ok we're done haha

waxen cradle
#

_>

exotic spoke
#

How did that sound nim? Can’t say it to keep it from being fixed can I

lusty grotto
#

hmm

#

deffo broken

exotic spoke
#

And good pad right?

lusty grotto
#

i mean how can you even recruit so many gnome warriors

#

that's not possible

exotic spoke
#

It’s sick.

Actually it’s just one multi boxing

lusty grotto
#

im... actually impressed

#

is it catfriend

exotic spoke
#

Know - but maybe someone she wants to meet

lusty grotto
#

🤔

#

yes yes

signal crest
#

what are some trinkets i should be aiming for for m+ tanking?

echo steppe
#

Any tips for P1 queen azshara? I've died every pull so far when the adds are around 2-4%

waxen cradle
#

Ok on a different note how is the punchcard looking for us in compare to say other trinkets. I would assume based off of what its item level is from cards put in it, but I am wondering if it really is going to have much value to us with the lack of main stat. My hunch says no

exotic spoke
#

Normal or heroic ferment

echo steppe
#

heroic

exotic spoke
#

You don’t do that fight right now it’s bugged.

That’s my advice from everything I’ve read

#

0 kills so far

echo steppe
#

Bugged, how?

exotic spoke
#

Dropping cursed heart pools at all times instead of when they should only drop them during longing.

We stopped after ashvane

sand egret
#

Hmm, that fight seems....fishy

exotic spoke
#

So I don’t have first hand experience. But apparently other bugs - just don’t see them specified on /r/competitvewow

echo steppe
#

Yeah that seemed extremely annoying to deal with.

hasty nova
#

i'm starting to think vop might not even be bis main for dps

exotic spoke
#

65%+ uptime and it’s only rank 1 though

sand egret
#

66% or not viable.

hasty nova
#

maybe it's the rank one and crucible of flame is rank 2

exotic spoke
#

That’s onbfights with lots of down time

sand egret
#

then i demand 68.537%

exotic spoke
#

Like where I have to swim across a god damned ocean

sand egret
#

i've decided to just add caps to everything now in wow

#

including, my viability cap

hasty nova
#

haha!

lusty grotto
#

oh man

#

bladesong with the meme merge

exotic spoke
#

@oblique garnet you around / raiding tonight?

oblique garnet
#

Yes?

exotic spoke
#

Check pms

lusty grotto
#

goblins

exotic spoke
#

I have a goblin

lusty grotto
#

🤦

exotic spoke
#

Don’t you dare insult Probablyriki

sand egret
#

wow, didn't even name it Rikileaks or RikiLake. Not gonna lie, i'm a little bit disappointed

exotic spoke
#

It was a play off of the horde char I made 15 years ago to talk to people horde side

#

“Notriki”

sand egret
#

LeFemmeRikita

#

better be your rogue name

exotic spoke
#

Too many characters

sand egret
#

DonRikiles

#

or a druid named Rikitty

#

hmmm maybe it's time for me to go home...

exotic spoke
#

My Druid riiki. Cause it has two ‘i’s (well in the middle) and the person I was playing with only has one eye

sand egret
#

not Treeki?

exotic spoke
#

Nope - fuck healing

sand egret
#

smart man

#

but that's why you gotta bait people into thinking you're healing then BOOM...hit em with that kitty

#

there's a reason I always start my keys in Tree Form. Every so often you get someone who gets hilariously confused

outer dew
#

I start my my feral in boomie form

#

So I dont get kicked

#

Tbh

exotic spoke
#

I mean last night my resto Druid was saying “I’m not heading these keys”

As we farmed 6-8s.

Oh he was resto. Just set up for maximum kitty dps

outer dew
#

Tbh

#

The play should be 1 tank 4 dps

#

Just blowup the pack and fish feast to heal

#

Imagine the speeeed

#

I've wondered about doing keys with 5 ret pal or 5 ferals

#

And just swap tanking between everyone

sand egret
#

tbh, with a few ferals/rets that's a solid chunk of offhealing. Esp Feral you're constantly popping those Regrowths anyway for BT

strong forum
#

Top 15 parses on every boss so far, feels fucking good man

#

💦

sand egret
#

wow not even top 10?

#

actual garbage

strong forum
#

Ikr

#

Fucking trash player right here

#

Ama

sand egret
#

you're not even viable

strong forum
#

Not even a guardian druid

#

Smh

#

It's the meta now right? Right?

sand egret
#

spins wheel

#

hmm

#

Yeah, looks like it

strong forum
#

Kek

tough vault
#

... So first time tanking new raid from start as warrior and I am loving it. Thanks for all the advice and discussion lads 👌

strong forum
#

Nice 👌

exotic spoke
#

Gratz man

tulip arch
#

With the Vison of Perfection minor power reducing the cooldown of Avatar and desynching it from using it with every other Demo Shout, should we be intentionally delaying the shout to use with every Avatar or allowing the desync to occur and just syncing back up when they get close to each other again?

exotic spoke
#

No.

#

Just use it. Demo shout will be up again quickly.

You’d be losing out on rage over the course of a fight if you do that

strong forum
#

^

tulip arch
#

Figured as much, thanks

strong forum
#

Spam demo on CD unless you wanna use it defensively for a mechanic

#

That's about it

exotic spoke
#

Pretty much

sick sentinel
#

guys what race should i go

#

im sick of tauren

outer dew
#

Gnome for catfriend

sick sentinel
#

also i dont have zandalari rip

outer dew
#

Or bootleg gnome

sick sentinel
#

i dont see much pandaren around i was considering pandaren female

outer dew
#

Goblin

sick sentinel
#

fuck golbins

outer dew
#

Lol

#

Panda female is fun

#

I use to be a panda female

#

Their size makes plate look decent

#

Animation gets a bit of getting use to

sick sentinel
#

or orc idk. see, i really like orc for arms/fury but for prot idk

naive panther
#

Unlock zand. My war was Tauren from van till now

sick sentinel
#

ughhh maybe i should how fast can i do it

#

im revered

#

idk how far in

exotic spoke
#

Whatever looks cool.

Goblin racial is pretty good if you have to be horde

sick sentinel
#

all my friends, plus guild is horde so yeah otherwise id probably be human female. thats always been my favorite warrior race

#

i do have an alliance warrior but shes 112 lol

tender igloo
#

so whats the best ZT racial for prot war so far this patch? we still quick bois?

strong forum
#

I'm thinking bout going undead

#

Only been hm female for 2 weeks but undead seems fun

#

@tender igloo basically everybody is running paku

exotic spoke
#

Part of me wants to go back human, space goat, or gnome.

ivory peak
#

@strong forum just curious on why paku? is that purely for DPS boost? Kragwa seems more for survivability

tender igloo
#

Yea that seems like a good choice, crit gives us parry too @ivory peak but damage is wonderful to have as well

exotic spoke
#

We don’t need more survivability.

#

Especially against physical / clickable damage. Which is why people tend to choose offensive abilities

tender igloo
#

^

warm plinth
#

Clickable damage XD

tender igloo
#

cook those chickens with that thunderclap

naive panther
#

Using paku

tender igloo
#

I'm still doing insane damage btw after the talent nerf.

exotic spoke
#

Dwarf / dark iron clears magic debuffs
DID also can give a fuck ton of strength. So it’s nice as both offensive and defensive

naive panther
#

I used bob salami for a while for st dps

#

My damagewas gimped hard by the nerf

tender igloo
#

I went way towards the crit end for my M+ build last tier and its doing fine

#

lower than it was for sure

#

but I'm still slapping

naive panther
#

I was 30k+ dps overall prior. Now around 20k

exotic spoke
#

We have more sustained dps and less burst

naive panther
#

We have more sustained how?

exotic spoke
#

Longer uptime of avatar

tender igloo
#

the essence?

warm plinth
#

DPS overall is going to be lower anyway because you don't have massive reaping packs padding the meter.

naive panther
#

Only because essences were introduced for everyone.

#

But that 30 to 20 was with reaping

#

But yeah.

exotic spoke
#

That too.

I’m not saying our overall dps is higher. I’m saying our dps is smoother - doesn’t have as insane mountains and valleys

#

Then you didn’t have Perfection when you compared that

outer dew
#

you also have ot remember

#

most people doing low-keys again

#

some people gonna get sniped in damage

naive panther
#

No I had default essence. But it was a big hit at least until you get new gear and essences and lvl your neck

exotic spoke
#

Perfection is very nice

#

And part of the nerf was likely because of Perfection. So comparing pre and post with out having Perfection is silly

astral crystal
#

yeah im pretty sure avatar got nerfed because of perfection

#

your avatar uptime goes through the roof

#

much shorter CD which means dumping rage gets you avatarded ™ even faster

#

i've had rolling avatar into another avatar too

#

shit's cray

exotic spoke
#

Last night I had 50 seconds of avatar up time

#

Straight.

naive panther
#

I see.

#

So take it bom is still top trait?

sick sentinel
#

what dungeon is decent to spam for shields? i figure i might as well try to get a 420+ shield or something

#

my shields 400 so

exotic spoke
#

BoM is probably even better defensively now as you have that mastery for longer. More crit block

naive panther
#

Good point

oblique garnet
astral crystal
#

is that avatar uptime?

oblique garnet
#

yes

astral crystal
#

redonk

exotic spoke
#

I know! It’s amazing isn’t it?

oblique garnet
#

on zagul hc

exotic spoke
#

ahh yeah

#

I had 65 or so on the underwater one

#

Even with swimming a fucking mile

#

It’ll only get better right?

oblique garnet
#

yup

#

Riki did you do Orgozoa on hc yet?

crimson quarry
#

Hey been away from wow since 8.0, ip was taken off gcd now prot waras are gods ?

exotic spoke
#

Ah we stopped after ashvane. Some people had issues and we brought a fuck ton of recruits

oblique garnet
#

Ill pm you something juicy

exotic spoke
#

A fucking 28 man raid

Oh nice

strong forum
#

@crimson quarry yes

warm plinth
#

Just to clarify, IP being taken off GCD is not why prot wars are good.

strong forum
#

@oblique garnet ye I had like 65% Avatar uptime in m+ with VoP, fucking juicy

#

Actually insane

#

But cof is prolly still better for ST pump

crimson quarry
#

I admit it felt clunky asf on gcd, but other ppl learning to accept them, what changed ?

strong forum
#

People realized we have insane dmg output and insane physical midigation

#

And we got a fatty mastery trait for Avatar

warm plinth
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Our mitigation was buffed since 8.0 as well

exotic spoke
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It was a combination of adding BoM, adding three more major traits, blocking ranged attacks, the minor buffs, and reaping being introduced

crimson quarry
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Ah and I'm reading bdk got nerfed hard too.

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And we got a start buff

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Stam

exotic spoke
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That was an incredibly minor buff

warm plinth
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Mitigation-wise, the ranged projectile blocking was miles above any other change.

cosmic oasis
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new enchants not worth btw? it's still quick nav for everything?

warm plinth
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Force Multiplier is very strong for DPS

crimson quarry
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@warm plinth thx!

exotic spoke
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Force multiplier

oblique garnet
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Nome im expecting higher uptimes on m+

crimson quarry
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I remember running and timing a +10 5man prot war team during infested because no one wanted to group with prot

oblique garnet
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Ive been getting 70-80% on raid xD

crimson quarry
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Glad stuff has changed

strong forum
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Really now

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Haven't used it in raid yet

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Gotta greed parse with cof

exotic spoke
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It’s worth

strong forum
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Might use it on Sunday

balmy narwhal
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so the rank 2 of vision of perfection

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do i have to wait till next week to get the blueprint?

bold marten
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i think so.

exotic spoke
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Believe rank 2 is an RNG drop

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Could be wrong

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After killing king mechagon the first time

bold marten
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which major essence do you use in M+? I'm currently using anima of life and death rank 2.

exotic spoke
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I’ve just been using vision

balmy narwhal
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vision is just so geart

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i have avatar up so muyc

bold marten
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vision of perfection even for M+?

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as major essence

oblique garnet
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Yes

quasi mural
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any decent target mark addons out there?

dim juniper
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Or weakauras

undone sun
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Could also just make a macro

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With raid markers attached

sweet kettle
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@quasi mural use the addon called opie

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And make a macro that shows all markers in a circle works wonders

willow scarab
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440 wep and 430 shield? Sickening @strong forum

lusty grotto
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so was the jb thing fixed?

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with the m+ chest

warm plinth
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What thing

warm plinth
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No idea. I doubt they'd let that fly, but stranger things have happened.

lusty grotto
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hmm

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can someone confirm or deny this?