well yeah but we human right
#protection
brittle owl
monkey brains 🐒
id wager everyone will do it at least once
it will be the seasonal meme
warm plinth
So...I guess we're going backwards in the M+ schedule now
Last week teem/quake/fort, this week burst/skittish/tyr which is normally before teem/quake/fort
I had a dude in a key yesterday who immediately after a tank said that they were pulling a pack to let us run by (said it in chat, and it was in the mdt route), followed the tank and died with him. People are definitely gonna instakill themselves on the enchanted emissary XD
crystal dirge
more gold for us boosters man!
honest canopy
warm plinth
Who the shit is this person with the white name. I don't recognize this person. Been too long since I've seen them. 😢
modern brook
Ghost ass bitch tbh
warm plinth
Ikr 😦
pine slate
I don't think i've had this much fun tanking mythic + since the end of legion as DK. Prot warrior just flows so well right now.
Can't wait for season 3 to start
ivory peak
i saw some discussion on the new inscription trinkets. but lost it. How do they hold up? I currently have the 395 Idol from Uunat which I enjoy for the occasional self heal. Are mystic bullwark or sundering worth using over that? I have a guildie who can make me them, so cost isnt a big issue, just wondering if its worth it
austere oar
I think Late mentioned that sundering is currently bugged if there is more than one in a party causing it to underperform
oblique garnet
Doesnt change the fact that those trinkets are all pretty much broken
ivory peak
ok thats probably what i saw
oblique garnet
In a good way
ivory peak
ok. cool well maybe I will pick them up and give them a spin
exotic spoke
Is it not proccing properly when there is more than one in a group late?
oblique garnet
@exotic spoke one guy gets the full benefit of how the trinket works others get nada
ivory peak
saw this in bug fixes
Fixed a bug that caused the Highborne Compendium of Sundering's proc chance to increase if an allied player also had the trinket equipped.
dense flame
Yeah that kind of confused me. So the bug was causing one person to get massive procs and benefited from others having the trinket where theirs doesn’t proc much. So this just makes it less OP for the person it procs for?
Why didn’t they just fix both bugs
🤔
analog swift
it still makes it OP
who cares if someone else gets the last stack
if anything that makes it even stronger that everyone can staack it depending on the ICD
junior ivy
i cant have any more friends on bnet cause im at 200
i tried deleting some to add 1
and i still have too many
im so confused
wha tis this thing that pops up?
ivory peak
looks like some sort of addon to me
twin hazel
looks kinda similar to kaliels tracker
twin hazel
looks like an achievement tracker part of it
willow fractal
anyone know are veng DH ok as raid tanks now?did the buffs they get buff there mitgation?
junior ivy
whats my main rotation? is it still shield slam , revenge, thunderclap, and devestate for filler?
exotic spoke
Catfiend check icy veins - the guide there goes into more detail than I can
But thunderclap is higher in the priority than where you have it
junior ivy
before revenge?
exotic spoke
Yes
junior ivy
ok thanks
willow fractal
im just asking cause this guy in disc is sayign they are buffed to the point where they should be a top for progression mythic raid tank and i duno about that thoguht id ask yall
junior ivy
and as usual, shield block as much as possible, IP when needed?
exotic spoke
I mean, they have issues - I doubt they will be top tier tank, but they are completely viable
Pretty much catfiend
junior ivy
ty
what is stat priority right now
is haste still what we want
with ilvl over all?
exotic spoke
Yes
junior ivy
ty
ivory peak
new azerite trait
modern brook
It's a notification
ivory peak
shift click to unlock it
junior ivy
ty
modern brook
^
ivory peak
gemhide
junior ivy
ty
neon tangle
also, the crit buff is way nicer than ablative shielding
last mason
What’s more worth, 5 ilvls or a socket
ivory peak
tough one. i typically go for socket unless the 5ilvls give me more than like 40 haste
twin hazel
kinda depends on the slot
last mason
Yea it’s on bracers, 420 benthic with socket haste vers, or 425 non socket crit haste
twin hazel
for bracers sockets pretty good
basically like adding a 3rd stat
but depends how much haste your losing from piece to piece too
or thats how i look at it at least
ive not been keeping much up to date with the warrior this expansion
last mason
right, but the question is which more stats is worth, the extra 60 haste from a gem, or the smaller amount of str armor and crit from the +5 ilvls
analog swift
safest way is just to add up the total amount of stats
spice ferry
Safest way is to just :sim:
sick sentinel
Safest way is to take them to dinner first
warm plinth
@last mason Add str+stam+stat1+stat2 (without socket) on both pieces. Subtract. If the total is less than 60, use the socketed piece. If the total is more than 60, use the higher piece.
Substitute 40 instead of 60 if you're too cheap to buy the 60 stat gems
last mason
This is the prot channel not dps channels, of you wanna get your full of telling people to sim, go to fury or arms
Ty @warm plinth
If*
tough vault
So this week's (EU scrub) affixes were pretty painful lol
warm plinth
Yeah they were
I hate teem/fort
Quaking is just a kick in the balls on top of teem/fort XD
tough vault
we headed into AD. It was that or UR :/
warm plinth
Yeah I did uh...AD, UR, FH and WCM on 15-16 this week. Didn't time any of them 😅
oblique garnet
100% the scaling is not in yet its just the affix combination
oblique garnet
We did some full mongo strats in both ad and fh and still timed on 19-20
Islands did more damage tbh 8)
warm plinth
So @oblique garnet we learned yesterday that the cursed items you can get from Nazjatar will still debuff you in dungeons. Our tank in 16 FH was running through it with alternating debuffs like 20% less max HP, 20% increased chance to be crit and shit like that. It was BRUTAL
We tried lusting the triple pack at the start and he pulled and just got melted in about 1 second. We didn't notice what was going on until halfway through when someone noticed he had like 340k HP at like 412 ilevel
On a DK*
twin hazel
🤦
warm plinth
Ended up just finishing the dungeon anyway but we at least knew why it was so rough from that point on lol
twin hazel
knew i would hear stories about that when i saw it
warm plinth
I didn't even know those items existed tbh until they were talking about it.
I haven't got one yet
twin hazel
you been using your scrying stones?
warm plinth
I only just got my second scrying stone last night; haven't used it yet. Didn't get anything weird from the first one though
oblique garnet
Lul did you report that as bug?
warm plinth
No because I didn't have enough information on it. I don't even know what the items are called. I should suggest that he do that though lol
tough vault
robognomes
twin hazel
mechanical gnomes
junior ivy
am i awful for skipping every cinematic
warm plinth
I did
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I use Zygor. I don't know what's going on anywhere; I just follow the arrow 😄
twin hazel
yes youre awful for playing the game how you want to
junior ivy
whats zygor?
twin hazel
how dare you
junior ivy
is it an addon
warm plinth
It's a quest addon. You pick what you want to do (achievements, leveling, whatever) and it has guides for it that go through step by step with waypoints and shit
warm plinth
Costs money though
warm plinth
It's $8/month
junior ivy
A MONTH?!
warm plinth
Yeah
warm plinth
Idk, I don't really spend money so it's worth it to me lol
twin hazel
sounds to me like it does the same as something free
tough vault
I mean there are “other” ways to obtain it though those shall not be advertised 🙃
twin hazel
Azeroth Autopilot?
warm plinth
I've heard that mentioned before but I don't know what all that includes.
warm plinth
Does it tell you which quests to do? I looked into it once and it seems like if you pick up a quest it'll tell you how to do it but it doesn't actually tell you what to do/not do
twin hazel
it points you in the direction your supposerd to go
tough vault
AAP just gives you the breadcrumbs yeah
twin hazel
gives you cliff notes on what to do
tough vault
Zygor spells it out.
twin hazel
and supplies the quest item button if necessary
tough vault
But zygor also contains mount and profession guides
warm plinth
Yeah, and guides for pretty much any achievement. It has a ton.
tough vault
I mean if you don’t want to tab to wowhead for info every time, get zygor.
warm plinth
Yeah, I mean, it's preference I suppose. I couldn't live without Zygor at this point. I use it for everything.
And it's instantly updated for every patch. Like first day of patch it already had the world quests loaded into it
junior ivy
i just read everything on wowhead anyway
so i dunno if itd be useful for me
and i probably have other addons that do what it does haha considering how many i have
warm plinth
Maybe ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Not advertising for them. You asked, I answered :p I totally understand not wanting to pay the money for it
tough vault
I mean I've used the guide, it's good.
It's too much for me though, I tend to toggle it on for specific stuff
such as collectibles and pet battles
junior ivy
i will never get into WoW petbattles i dont think
warm plinth
I use Auto Turn In for quest turn-ins still tbh. Only because it has the option to hold shift to NOT auto-turn in, which Zygor doesn't have. Handy for repeatable quests.
tough vault
I used Petbattles for a tonne of rep for naz/mechagon
twin hazel
Id get into them more if i didnt have to level up the stupid things
junior ivy
you can yeah
twin hazel
yah for ungodly amounts
tough vault
I sniped a boneshard the other day lmao
warm plinth
Yeah that's why I don't do pet battles too. That being said, some WQs you can do with level 1 pets (not sure about the 8.2 stuff)
warm plinth
Like the ones where you fight trainers, their pets are the same level as your highest pet. So you just use type-advantaged level 1 pets and whoop them
junior ivy
remember life before discovering heroic leap mouseover macros?
how did i ever survive
warm plinth
I still don't use a heroic leap macro
junior ivy
youre crazy
warm plinth
I do this weird thing where I press the keybind and then click where I want to leap
ivory peak
i dont either
warm plinth
Strange, I know
ivory peak
me too!!!
tough vault
Ikky is from WoD questing
Iron Starlette from WoD intro iirc?
Raptor hatchling from Legion rare
Unborn valkyr is rare spawn
anubisath.. is hard to get, I guess.
junior ivy
um i was gonna tell you, but i was waiting to see if it stuck first
but ive been keybinding
while questing
junior ivy
its really just 4 though. shield slam, thunderclap, revenge, devestate .
i havent tried with the defensives mixed in yet
questing is too easy, i dont need to use them
but ive been doing good with those 4
warm plinth
@prisma crane LOOK ^^^^^
junior ivy
you just keep clicking til it goes, then you know yourew in range
prisma crane
i dont really use many macros at all
just real simple ones that "use" specific slots so i dont have to re-apply my belt / cape / trinkets to my bars
warm plinth
Great reason why not to use a heroic leap macro: My warrior tank in Freehold managed to leap up on to a mast during the council of captains fight even though her mouseover was in front of her.
prisma crane
i have leap, interrupt, berserker rage, IP, SW, SR, lock rocks, mounts, fear all on my mouse
junior ivy
which do i pick
prisma crane
none
warm plinth
Are they even an upgrade???
warm plinth
I take the one that sells for more money XD
prisma crane
^
warm plinth
Better for me on a DH lol. Did you see they're nerfing the rare req for the bounty quest Krotos?
Only going to require 1 rare instead of 3
warm plinth
And they're supposedly fixing the tags so it's clearer what counts for the quest or not
No, no leylines. There are leylocked chests that require you to uncross lines to open chests but that's it
junior ivy
there are a lot of other people here
warm plinth
Mmhm
warm plinth
Not sure what you mean by BfA Suramar. It's nothing like Suramar
warm plinth
Yeah
Well, some new, some just consolidated in that room
They took the portals out of Dalaran (except the SW portal) and moved some of them there.
warm plinth
The Caverns of Time one was gone until this patch; they had removed it.
warm plinth
I mean, A. it would be really easy to solo Nelth's Lair, and B. it's just a scenario version of it
junior ivy
ugh, joining a group just introduced me to a bunch new addon things i gotta fix
sick sentinel
what other tanks do you guys play? im looking for an alt
tough vault
Brewmaster. Looking interesting for m+ with the strife essence
warm plinth
Paladin is fun af
prisma crane
thats good new @warm plinth also be nice if they nerf the collect quest from 10 to 5 or 3 even
warm fern
I’ve been grinding up this Mag’har Warrior, nearly to 120. Zandalari Pally is fun... Druid Bear seems slow, comparitively.
warm plinth
Well idk if they nerfed it or it just changes, but the spiral leaf thing quest I did yesterday only asked for 5
They've been 10 before this
warm plinth
I'm doing a zanda pally right now. Up to level 60 (kinda releveling shit on horde side lol)
sick sentinel
i think Brew is high on my list but im kinda lazy since my monk is 100, but then my DK is 110
warm plinth
I have a LFD pally at 120 on alliance side though, so I'm not just speaking from level 60 experience XD
sick sentinel
and ia lso have plate looms
warm plinth
Brew is boring to me. But other people find it fun so
sick sentinel
hows BDK?
warm plinth
It's fine. Not as fun as warrior/pally but not bad.
Druid and brew are the boring ones. For me (ranked most fun to least fun), it's 1. War/Pal, 2. (close) VDH, 3. DK, 4. Druid, 5. Brew
VDH just suffers from being pretty meh right now, so I play havoc instead
clever orchid
didnt the vengeance changes go live last reset?
last mason
Do sims sim the mecha trink properly, with all the cards now
warm plinth
They did but they're still pretty meh
sick sentinel
ive been wondering about that trinket with all the haste, is it good?
warm fern
I agree that Warrior and Pally top out the fun.
clever orchid
gonna have to test mine out a little, hopefully its beefy enough now
simming tanking is generally kinda pointless still
wintry olive
Was trying out subroutine optimization today, and during one of the procs I went -25% mastery, anyone else seen this ? I’m guessing it was some weird shit happening with BoM.
warm plinth
What other punchcards are you using?
wintry olive
Haste>crit and some hacking blue one.
I end up with haste varying between 50-80% so far is what I’ve seen. Only the one time that mastery dropped into negative 😂 seems odd that it would do that though.
Only thing I can think of is that it snapshots mastery inside Avatar, drops it to “minimum” amount and then if avatar drops off it drops mastery more ?
warm plinth
Hmm...did it actually feel like your mastery dropped that far? Or do you think it was a display bug?
prisma crane
weird @warm plinth i did the spiral leaf thing 2 days ago and was 10, i'll check today, didnt get a chance to play yesterday
wintry olive
I was tanking some silly amount of mobs and didn’t die, but I did drop awefully fast. I’ll keep checking it tomorrow and see if it happens again. I’m wondering if I should go with a crit card instead anyways and get ridiculous amounts of parry 😀
warm plinth
Yeah they did spiral leaf twice in a row @prisma crane It was 10 2 days ago and then 5 yesterday
But not sure if it was a nerf or if it's just one of the random quests. It was called the same thing as far as I remember
prisma crane
good good, hopefully they pulled their heads out of their asses and realized that mindlessly running around a zone, while effectively griefing other players around you isnt fun
last mason
we probs wont change from quick nav when s3 comes right
warm plinth
Undetermined. I've heard good things about both of the new enchants but the guide is still saying to take quick nav. Looks like for offensive purposes, Force Multiplier might be better though.
exotic spoke
Force multiplier is apparently good. Haven’t tried it yet.
warm plinth
Good, now hopefully the starfish is nerfed too. And hopefully they've fixed the bullshit phasing issue with them too.
marble cipher
Same with the kill rares, only need one now
warm plinth
Because that one frustrated the shit out of me
marble cipher
Aye, very much
warm plinth
Ran around for 2 hours looking for starfish. Found 4 that I could loot and 2 that kept phasing when I got close. ended up giving up on it
exotic spoke
@oblique garnet for the dark moon trinket - what did you test it on?
lusty grotto
JUST IMAGINE THIS MINING QUEST NOT BEING BUGGED
warm plinth
It gives you like a dark appearance for night elves with black eyes
exotic spoke
@lusty grotto haven’t had issues yet. I see the mob up all the time
lusty grotto
nimchy is a night warrior rogue
exotic spoke
Maybe the game hates you?
exotic spoke
I can’t - still at work. It’s not up.
Even if we did see each other you’d initiate a pointless prot v prot fight
The only way you win that fight is by not playing
lusty grotto
hmm
timber nest
is there any math behind how 3 TC (90%+ uptime) sims lower than 3 BOM now?
exotic spoke
For the nightwarripr quests? I don’t. Know - never done them
For the new content as of a week ago you’re in the wrong place
exotic spoke
I’ve never been a night elf
Actually my Druid is but I never play that
#SylvanasWasRight #NotMyTree #ImGladItBurned
tough vault
I concur
lusty grotto
gtfo sylvanas fanboyhs
tough vault
Nah I just hate druids
exotic spoke
(Actually I don’t really care about lore nor have I ever)
lusty grotto
im even more insulted now
how dare you not follow on a Warrior demi-god, brother of the warrior god Broxigar the Red
exotic spoke
But I for one welcome the new horde warchief: Gallywix
tough vault
Man im on Argent dawn EU. Night elves are the worst people out there. The amount of schadenfreude I got from the tree burning down... sooooo goooood 😎
exotic spoke
Have I triggered you enough Nim?
tough vault
N’zoth above all btw ❤️
lusty grotto
no, i see no reason to mind whatever someone that doesn't know who Saurfang brother of Broxigar the Red the Warrior God says
exotic spoke
Saurfangs cool
lusty grotto
also praise Varian for being a warrior king
not this pansy ass priest/paladin that you have now
exotic spoke
Agree
exotic spoke
One might say “Lion”
lusty grotto
he is the alliance warrior king
close but not that close to demi god warrior status
but certainly good enough
lusty grotto
you know
Sylvanas isn't really sylvanas right?
its Azshara
quote me on that
i said it
tough vault
Ok
lusty grotto
massive spoilers
exotic spoke
Ends justify the means?
tough vault
Pin it
lusty grotto
its pinned, in my heart
tough vault
Then we can do 
later
exotic spoke
Either way. Why haven’t you all killed her?
tough vault
Because plot armor
lusty grotto
yes pretty much
exotic spoke
She’s barely wearing anything!
tough vault
They have Anduin for that
lusty grotto
err i guess if they play for the other team
tough vault
Badum tiss
lusty grotto
dadjokes
lusty grotto
so how long between drops btw, does anyone know?
exotic spoke
Which drops?
lusty grotto
the supply drops
tough vault
Airdrops ?
lusty grotto
i needs
exotic spoke
Oh I dunno
tough vault
Ah. Seem fairly random, maybe twice an hour?
tough vault
Yeah the sharding fucks shit up too
junior ivy
i am doing quests in ashenvale, am i supposed to be?
exotic spoke
What’s thebmurloc trading give today?
tough vault
@junior ivy that’s all story and for the elf unlock
lusty grotto
exotic spoke
Oh really? Very nice. May get a level 7 follower without using him
junior ivy
who cares about elves
tough vault
Eh you may as well do it, it unlocks darkshore warfront too
Nice for heroic warfronts if they ever come 😂
junior ivy
fine 😦
lusty grotto
50 mins between crate drops
exotic spoke
Not bad
lusty grotto
alright time to grind some BGs and mining
lusty grotto
rares only give rep the first time you kill them, not daily
unless they drop the turn in thing
exotic spoke
But they drop other shit
You kill the coral ancients?
Do the pet battles for 3k rep?
exotic spoke
How am I ahead of you then for naz people
Like, if I do anything tonight I hit reveres
lusty grotto
i missed 2 days
exotic spoke
Revered*
Ahh ok
exotic spoke
Fair fair. Yeah I had that too
lusty grotto
one of my stupid bosses
exotic spoke
Aren’t they all?
lusty grotto
asked where i was the other day
smh bro, i worked until 4 am to complete this fucking project
exotic spoke
RIP
lusty grotto
too many chiefs man
exotic spoke
Did you say “war chiefs”
lusty grotto
management is always a dumb fucking thing
i have no idea how they find ways to fuck a perfectly good company up
we lost 3 people on the same week cause they had enough
exotic spoke
😦
lusty grotto
i cant wait to fucking quit to be honest lol
undone sun
👏
exotic spoke
Also. Fuck - when am I going to get mechagon in next week
lusty grotto
at least next week is DMF
so ill be able to kind of catch up
with that carousel rep buff
or roller coaster, i guess
exotic spoke
I’m all about that mechagon. But Tuesday is raid day + mythic+ after....
So I won’t have it before then
timber nest
is lucid dreams on-use on the gcd ?
undone sun
majors are, minors aren't
warm plinth
I would just use it on CD probably, but I'm not sure. It won't matter for much longer anyway because we won't be using Lucid major once we have other options.
lusty grotto
to use it effectively... use it as a minor
fallen oak
Is there any haste/vers percentage I should be aiming for? Or simply just have them on as many pieces of gear as I have?
lusty grotto
because the major is MEH
undone sun
no @fallen oak
fallen oak
oh, I remember about the caps, wasn't sure if there is a preference of getting one stat to a certain place before investing into other.
mmakes things easier, thanks!
junior ivy
@undone sun
undone sun
hello
junior ivy
ive been keybinding since i came back to wow.
undone sun
😮
junior ivy
😄
yeah its exciting
but i will say im only questing so far, its super easy, so i havent had to mix defensives into it yet
undone sun
nice, was just about to ask if you liked it
junior ivy
its a lot easier since i didnt give myself a chnace to use that old muscle memory
is there a new elf race
undone sun
just the nightborne and void from legion
warm plinth
Well, void elves are alliance; nightborne are horde. So I imagine void elves.
junior ivy
hm i dont think
lusty grotto
you aren't unlocking any elves
darkshore is for the warfront
and the "night warrior" appearance for night elves
that's it
tough vault
You get black eyes for night elves. Also you unlock the darkshore warfront.
junior ivy
oh yeah i just misunderstood at first
and thought it was a new race of them
i hate scenarios so much
undone sun
lol
warm plinth
I kinda liked scenarios (meaning the queueable scenarios)
tough vault
An additional talent system
junior ivy
ty
tough vault
There is still Azerite gear, but now the heart of azeroth functions like extra talents
You can collect essences from a variety of sources and stick em in there
tough vault
Hate to say it but wowhead has probably the best wrap up of what is new in 8.2
junior ivy
why do you hate to say it
tough vault
The quality varies greatly
tough vault
It’s very clear in the class guides
undone sun
generally the generic guides are much better because they're almost entirely in house
undone sun
nice
tough vault
And more often than not the comments on items are way more informative than the guides referencing the items 😂
warm plinth
My favorite guides on wowhead are the reputation guides
Every wowhead reputation guide ever: Do the WQs in the zone lul
tough vault
Do the wqs! Don’t forget the pet battles!
warm plinth
Well, for recent ones anyway
tough vault
They will help you unlock some of those essences I mentioned.
They’re not mandatory, but they are beneficial
junior ivy
ew
warm plinth
PvP quests where? I haven't seen a single PvP quest
tough vault
Warmode as alliance in general isn’t worth it apart from leveling and some resource bonus.
undone sun
that's generally why alli have a higher bonus with WM'
tough vault
Which I will happily abuse since my realm tends to shard with alliance realms 😂
But yeah there’s pvp quests if you zone in the first time, iirc. Just as introduction
And there’s the mechagon call to arms
lusty grotto
so apparently the rustbolt/mechagon fight club isn't available until season 3
tough vault
Yeah figures
junior ivy
needs a casual guilkd
tough vault
Probably bc the chest drops gear? Don’t want imba stuff the first weeks
tough vault
Im sad anyways
Raid opens on Wednesday EU. As does mechagon
We raid on wednesdays 😦
And I have a set m+ group I do mythics with
So no mechagon essence before raid
warm plinth
Do you raid right after reset or something?
austere oar
Ye
tough vault
Reset is tuesday night EU. New stuff opens 10th. We raid wednesday, and we probably save the mechagon lockout for the m+’group
austere oar
Playing alliance 🤢
Playing gnome 🤢 🤢
tough vault
And yeah @junior ivy that’s the essence. You added it to your heart of azeroth @ magni’s place
junior ivy
question
tough vault
Potato Pomme de terre. In dutch we call it tuesday night :p
junior ivy
how come blizz got rid of tab targeting?
tough vault
They didn’t, they just messed with it
austere oar
Theres still tab targeting
undone sun
did you accidently rebind it
austere oar
Check your keybinds
undone sun
😄
junior ivy
I BOUND IT TO INTERCEPT
tough vault
Oof
junior ivy
how do i bind it back to change target
austere oar
Be aware that there is a Tab for npc and players only
undone sun
should be under targetting
tough vault
Click it and hit tab lol
warm plinth
Binding tab to abilities...
warm plinth
You only have 4 keybinds. What's wrong with 1, 2, 3, 4
junior ivy
keybind*
warm plinth
I don't even know how you comfortably press shift 1
tough vault
Interrupts = c, poly/stuns = t 😂
warm plinth
Like I can press it with like...pinky on shift, ring on 1, but it's not really preferable
lusty grotto
shift 1 is last stand for me
undone sun
shift q
tough vault
Corsair Scimitar 👌🏻
lusty grotto
😡
warm plinth
It's weird, I unbound q/e a long time ago but have never rebound them. Always feel like I'd hit them by accident.
lusty grotto
aw shit here we go again
undone sun
SW is Shift E, DS Shift R
tough vault
Q is leap, shift Q shield wall. E is SB, shift E last stand. R is IP, shift R is trinket 😂
warm plinth
Hey finally something I can agree with. R is IP for me too
warm plinth
I use F1-F4 for stances
lusty grotto
also
tough vault
Its bc of my BrM binds. E is ironskin brew, R is purifying
lusty grotto
warm plinth
I use R for Ironskin and V for Purifying on mine (that I don't play anymore)
tough vault
I love monk tanking but it made the switch to prot quite strange 😂
Had to stop spamming SB
austere oar
You actually have to play
warm plinth
Idk, I'm consistent on a lot of keybinds but others I'm not.
lusty grotto
i always use F for active mitigation
warm plinth
Like my interrupt is 100% consistent across toons, but taunt changes based on the toolkit of the spec
austere oar
Same interrupt is R for all my char and T for taunt
undone sun
IP Z, Taunt X
warm plinth
I use Shift-R for taunt on most toons, but it's G on monk because I use shift-R/shift-F for transcendence/transfer
undone sun
i have accidentally pressed the other when trying to hit one
tough vault
Love how people have their own reasoning for binds too
austere oar
Binds depend a lot on the mouse also
undone sun
yeah, it's very subjective
austere oar
All my Aoe spells are bound to my mouse
warm plinth
I have heard some really fucked binds before
undone sun
same
austere oar
Dh jump, leap etc
warm plinth
Like people who do like shift-8 for shit, and they are literally hitting shift and 8 with one hand
And I'm like you have fucking alien hands
undone sun
yeah, i try to keep my movement abilities to the same bind across toons
leap, dh leap, monk roll
shift tab
pala steed
warm plinth
I do that too, but I use T
Except for some reason paladin steed and death's advance are Shift-C
I use T for grip on DK and uhhh
austere oar
Damn reminds me of the time I used to mouse click everything
undone sun
🤣
warm plinth
The fuck do I use it for on pally
tough vault
Q, E, R, T, C should be unbound from w/e shit they are and should be used for useful stuff imo. That includes modifiers shift alt
austere oar
I changed to keyboard when getting super flamed one day on vocal bc my mouse was spamming heavily
dapper canyon
Do we know when season 3 is yet?
warm plinth
July 9th
undone sun
9th
austere oar
Next reset
warm plinth
I beat Thyme 🎉
undone sun
😏
warm plinth
I mean, clicking is just objectively less efficient
austere oar
I had a healer guildmate actually mousceclicking
Like click to target into click to cast
warm plinth
Wait, you mean like you had extra mouse button binds?
austere oar
No like clicking your bars
warm plinth
Oh jesus
undone sun
pfft, amateur
i /cast every ability
warm plinth
@junior ivy We found another one
austere oar
She was playing monk so that's the most braindead healer so that's alright
warm plinth
Although he is a former clicker if I'm understanding properly
tough vault
Oof
warm plinth
I mean, tbf a lot of healers are technically clickers. But they use clique and grid so it's not really the same.
junior ivy
dont make fun of clickers
undone sun
🤣
warm plinth
Since you only click once to heal instead of having to click a target then click a button
undone sun
i wouldn't necessarily call mouseovers clicks
warm plinth
And they aren't exclusively I guess
undone sun
don't even need to click for mouseovers
austere oar
When I play healer I use mouseover macros bound to keybinds
warm plinth
Well I just mean if you use clique, chances are you have left/right click bound to heals
undone sun
but it is mouse heavy, just based on movemeny
warm plinth
I may be wrong, but I thought people did
warm plinth
I never used clique myself. Just normal macros
tough vault
I mean.. “click raidframe and cast spell immediately” is better than “try to find person> click bar” 😂
warm plinth
No for sure. I agree.
austere oar
Lots of ppl play with healbot and addons like that
warm plinth
I don't lump them in with general clickers
It means the last boss of the 2nd to last raid
undone sun
still progging? cat
austere oar
It means they have 1 week left
warm plinth
Until this coming week
junior ivy
well theyve been wiping for 45 mins
warm plinth
I mean, for alliance they're pretty good 😂
undone sun
if they don't have a kill, they're down to the final moments
AotC/CE end when new raid
austere oar
Although Jaina got lots easier with the acquired overall dps
- essences and new DD trinket
tough vault
They’re better than general alliance population in wow if they even reach mythic jaina lol
warm plinth
How many are in Hall for CoS now on alliance side? Did we break 30?!
We had 27 last I heard
undone sun
22 according to wowpro
austere oar
Comp requirement probably discouraged a lot of guilds
I mean us we didnt even step inside
warm plinth
Yeah what was it? Tank, healer, and 18 shadow priests?
😄
Or was it warlocks, I forget
tough vault
My guild would be at mekkatorque mythic rn if I had been allowed to bench people 🙃
warm plinth
Chaos Brand providing that job security though
junior ivy
i unlocked world quests in naga area
austere oar
Hilarious how the dh has been taken literally because he provides 1 buff
austere oar
Otherwise they'd just go full ranged
junior ivy
whats my non-mammoth new mount called i forget
tough vault
We’re not focused on mythic tbh but I mean it’s clear some people in the team lack... general raiding skills.
junior ivy
the mop one
tough vault
Yak
junior ivy
ty
austere oar
What boss you on ydara?
tough vault
We got hardstuck on opulence Mythic
austere oar
Damn
junior ivy
i got too much on the go right now, im overwhelmed
warm plinth
It's a lot to take in
tough vault
That was after I returned from holiday and took the tank spot away from someone. They had been stuck on jadefire for weeks before that
warm plinth
I spent like 2 days just working on Nazjatar before I even bothered with Mechagon because it was just too much shit to deal with at the same time lol
tough vault
Remember legion bodygaurds? They’re back
austere oar
1 day
junior ivy
i just need to know if this chociue matters
tough vault
It’s daily
junior ivy
ty
warm plinth
Yeah
austere oar
He's pretty good then
lusty grotto
The only one that matters is poen
warm plinth
Oh I thought people liked the rogue-like one
austere oar
The tidal rain is super strong
warm plinth
Yeah, that's the one I've been leveling is Poen
lusty grotto
I'm never changing poen
junior ivy
what are bakjed port atos
tough vault
... Not that I am nr 1 tank EU but the tank I replaced kept blaming the game for killing his co-tank on grong 🙃
Cooking recipe. New high level cooking
junior ivy
ew
tough vault
Do either Nazjatar or Mechagon first. Then you can do w/e
I would recommend doing the war campaign though, it gives a lot of azerite
tough vault
This discord is too distracting for me. Gn guys 🙃
austere oar
Last boss new dg I think you're talking about
junior ivy
but itrs tradable?
junior ivy
my problem is the opposite
austere oar
You have to farm the mobs inside the motherlode dungeon for components
junior ivy
:((((((
austere oar
Like tens of runs
Mount was around 1m7 on my serv when it came out
Holy shit
Welp gz I guess
austere oar
A guildmate took weeks to farm it
junior ivy
😦
austere oar
Damn I need friends like that
prisma crane
@warm plinth 10 fucking flotsam
prisma crane
yea but should be 5 not 10
lusty grotto
hmm it didn't take me that long, they respawn fast
prisma crane
still tedious
warm plinth
Flotsam is definitely better than starfish or spiral leafs though.
junior ivy
who is mythic opulence
willow scarab
4th boss in BAttle of Dazar'Alor
junior ivy
is it impressive to be doing that boss on mythic
plucky warren
junior ivy
im helping a guy do two achvs in ICC. im paying forward my good karma after a different guy gave me a free 2mil gold mount
warm plinth
@junior ivy You play as horde for the Jaina fight.
lusty grotto
warmode doesn't matter inside instances
lusty grotto
open your eyes
junior ivy
him walking inside the instance worked
lusty grotto
what did i say?
warm plinth
@prisma crane Uh...I think your game is broken lol.
prisma crane
lusty grotto
i did 10
warm plinth
That's fucked lol. Did you try abandoning and reacquiring it?
prisma crane
i just picked it up
warm plinth
Damn that's messed up lol
But like I said, at least it's flotsam. Definitely the easiest one to get 10 of
lusty grotto
hmm 🤷
undone sun
🎉
prisma crane
#confetti
prisma crane
rage
junior ivy
who put it there
undone sun
junior ivy
oh ok ty
how come im stuck in tear gas after killing doctor putricide
wait it went away
been so long
prisma crane
i hate this
says i need X/5 when i collect them
get to 5/5
says 5/10 in my log
get a 6th
still says 5/10
cant turn in the quest
GG half assed quest update
undone sun
🍝
prisma crane
yea
warm plinth
Wow, that's screwed
prisma crane
not a fan of this place lmao
junior ivy
can you do 10 man and 25 man ICC same day?
undone sun
No
prisma crane
yea
junior ivy
i coulkd have been finishing my quests
prisma crane
or you could be like me and not finishing them lol
junior ivy
but noo i had to try and be nice person
and help some guy
with his achvs
he thinks the mount could drop
i cant tell him the truth
prisma crane
you need to
junior ivy
its not even on heroic
prisma crane
or he'll waste more time of his own too
junior ivy
lk is already engaged
prisma crane
you can change the raid iirc
warm plinth
If it's not on heroic you can still change it
warm plinth
As long as it's been on 10 man normal the whole time, you can still change it to 25 heroic and kill him for the shot at the mount. However the LK achievement (the plague thing) is a lot bigger of a pain on heroic because of the shadow traps
junior ivy
im just annoyed i wasted all that time
clever orchid
so what essence looks to be the best for prot so far?
prisma crane
the Mechagon one
warm plinth
prisma crane
the CD reduction of avatar
junior ivy
what is sylverian dreamer?
prisma crane
6 months game time
warm plinth
it's a new mount you get for doing a 6-month sub
junior ivy
its pretty
warm plinth
I mean, we are literally going to tell you to go to icy-veins because the admin of this server wrote the guide.
clever orchid
still 90k other ppl on :p
prisma crane
i mean read the guide, not the forums
cinder pasture
And we're all telling you to go to icy-veins 😄
junior ivy
im in a hedge maze and i am not okay
outer dew
Because 80% of the people here will ask the same thing as you do
prisma crane
we can discuss thoughts and stutff
but if its just what's best, the guide is already there for you
warm plinth
Well, actually the guide does say Anima and most people in here say Visions. Still kinda curious if Anima was placed at #1 because of defensive reasons or if it's the best offensive major as well.
junior ivy
am i crazy or did they add 2 boards of wood to the stairs?
prisma crane
Guide says visions
warm plinth
Does it? It said Anima as the default M+ major last I checked
Says Visions major for raids, but Anima for M+
willow scarab
Really we need to wait and test it
clever orchid
yeah im gonna pin that down as a wait and see
willow scarab
Lots of people talking but nobody has the essences and we'll all have them both
clever orchid
just kinda sucks
willow scarab
So just..... wait.... and test it
clever orchid
that if that partifcular combo is the secret sauce it will be a fucking pain to farm as an alt
willow scarab
I agree but i'm happy to be wrong
prisma crane
but still
warm plinth
It's basically Light's Judgment with a heal if it doesn't split
clever orchid
liking essences so far but feels like doing 5 chars is just not an option anymore
warm plinth
Except more damage probably
prisma crane
avatar is already huge but off and def
warm plinth
Well if all you want is lucid, it takes like 30 minutes tops to do the 3 bodyguard quests each day on an alt
warm plinth
Rank 3 (the 10% one) is only 2 min CD
prisma crane
i'd rather get my way more uptime on avatar 😃
clever orchid
well i guess its better in the long run then getting shafted with vendor rng
which luckily never happened to me but a guildie once bought identical helms 3 weeks back to back
warm plinth
Which is the same as Light's Judgment. Even without LS, it's gonna hit like a truck. I mean at 397 my warrior would do 30k per target with it
Which is pretty insane
We'll see what happens though. I kinda figured Visions would be top dog in M+ as well
For the reason you stated
clever orchid
i mean if clap talent + BoM is still the way to go that makes sense^
getting signifcantly more of that might just overtake the nerf by a fair bit relatively soon too
and its blizz's fault to some extent, i believe the only stackable defensive warrior trait that 'wastes nothing' is bloodsport but that 40 leech is such a fucking slap in the face
prisma crane
defensive traits, bleh