protection

[exotic spoke]

And or icy veins

[hushed ember]

How bad did nerf affect prot ?

[spice ferry]

[lusty grotto]

Fuck did I miss spam time?

[undone sun]

never too late

[lusty grotto]

Yayyyy

👢 🍵 👏

[exotic spoke]

Did nim miss

If so

[lusty grotto]

forever

[exotic spoke]

Pin yo self

[warm plinth]

📌

[exotic spoke]

Btw did nimchy ever respond

[lusty grotto]

Nimchy swamped in end of quarter work

[exotic spoke]

So is deadriki! Maybe next week?

[lusty grotto]

ill be in VA next week

[exotic spoke]

I mean.... it’s no dc or md but it’s aight

[lusty grotto]

lol

yeah not gonna step foot in DC on 4th of july week

[exotic spoke]

Don’t disagree

[sick sentinel]

Im sure its been asked about, but how is the Pocket sized trinket looking?

[timber nest]

8.2 so i dont care :/

[novel temple]

Guys, don’t forget about the leech build @undone sun @exotic spoke @lusty grotto

[undone sun]

😡

[lusty grotto]

what in the

[willow scarab]

which name is yours andrew

[novel temple]

what should i replace with the new mechagon trinket, a 395 vial or a 410 idol from cos

the punchards are the haste proc and 284 vers/94 haste

[still aurora]

Not sure the Meka punch card trinket is simming correctly?

Wacked the 415 red card in from the vendor/crafter. Is quite a loss over the general 410 picks

[lusty grotto]

mwahi is working on the APL imo

so

sims will be inaccurate until he does some work on it

[orchid token]

i would say replace the vial @novel temple , vial is not a great trinket in most situations outside of double-on-use M+ play, and 395 is quite low too

[lusty grotto]

if im not mistaken

[novel temple]

Alright

Oh wait

I’m retarded lol

Now I see why

Also, what’s the other on use trinket that’s used in m+ then?

[lusty grotto]

right now?

hard to say

it's been 1 day since the patch went live

[orchid token]

the double-on-use combo is usually vial + rage

*was

it may be different now

[lusty grotto]

honestly not a lot of us used on-use

rezan / butcher block / anchor aren't on-use

[orchid token]

yeah, but it was the only way to make vial decent

[hasty nova]

for raid tanking dmg

does anyone ever take devastator over booming voice?

[sturdy valve]

@hasty nova I do with RF for pure dps

Mostly on Jaina

[lusty grotto]

yeah its great for jaina

if you want to push phases you need the dps

other than that no

unless if you want to push dps rankings or whatever

[hasty nova]

ah okay.

any of yall have a rough idea of the single target dmg increase? is it like 5% more or 10% or like 0.5%

[lusty grotto]

sim yourself

against a patchwerk

and then compare the two

there were sim breaking changes to both talent sets rotation wise so it should be a good indicator

[junior ivy]

thyme

are you gonna resub to wow

@undone sun

[undone sun]

Not anytime soon

[junior ivy]

😦

i seriously wanna play, i wish i could pay someone to handle my addons for me . thats how much i dont wanna do it

lol

i'm lke, 3 patches behind?

or 2?

[junior ivy]

what

[undone sun]

🤣

[junior ivy]

no no you dont get it

[undone sun]

Probably did what I did, deleted everything

[junior ivy]

its not updating the addons to their newest versions

its dealing with like

adjusting the settings and customizing them all

cause that always gets messed up during patches

[lusty grotto]

but why

uhhh

[junior ivy]

and like, testing to see if my 30 weakauras still wokr

[spice ferry]

mine literally did nothing

[junior ivy]

and remmeber this is for 180 addons

[spice ferry]

outside the odd lua error

[lusty grotto]

what TBC addons are you still running

[junior ivy]

its not just 3 or 4

its 180

[lusty grotto]

i pressed this and did nothing else

nothing got screwed

[spice ferry]

if ur running 180 addons, then thats on you because there is 0 chance you're not overlapping in some way

[junior ivy]

lemme see how many addons i hvae actually, cause i deleted some since i had 180

i started over 200

got down to under 100 at one point

then back up to like 150

[spice ferry]

did you just like download the top 200 addons on twitch lol

[junior ivy]

😦

dont judge me i love addons

lol

so much

i have a lot of weakauras too

[spice ferry]

haha i do too dw 😃

[lusty grotto]

there's an update thing for weakauras now

you run it

[junior ivy]

really?

[lusty grotto]

then go in game

[junior ivy]

are you

are you serious

[lusty grotto]

and you press the update button beside the weakaura

if they are on Wago, they will update

if they aren't, then you're screwed and should probably not run them

as in delete them

[junior ivy]

i only use waguo

actually i have like

2 from another site

and some i made myself

but theyre easy

[lusty grotto]

doing this only to give thyme an aneurysm

[undone sun]

🤣

[junior ivy]

thyme

@undone sun omfg

what is this

[undone sun]

so bare

[junior ivy]

WHY DOES IT SAY IU HAVE 5 ADDONS

AND WHY IS ONE ELVUI

I DONT EVEN USE ELVUI

EVER

[lusty grotto]

uhhh

[undone sun]

that is odd

[lusty grotto]

they did change the addon folder

[junior ivy]

i can never play again

like literally thats it for wow for me

[lusty grotto]

its under here now

[junior ivy]

wait

[lusty grotto]

retail

[junior ivy]

i was in beta

yes

nim

thank you

[lusty grotto]

but it should have copied over there

[junior ivy]

this is more like it

[lusty grotto]

jesus haha

[undone sun]

can't even see how many

[junior ivy]

it doesnt show me

but heres scroller

[lusty grotto]

if you go back

[junior ivy]

see in upper right?

[lusty grotto]

to the games screen

[undone sun]

lol yup

[lusty grotto]

it says how many

[junior ivy]

lol it says 5 for me

its showing beta ones

maybe its good i cantsee it

[lusty grotto]

well mine says 71 but most of those are turned off

and i haven't gotten around to delete them

[sudden kayak]

any on know the right talents for prot warrior dungeons

[lusty grotto]

icy veins guide in #268491842637660160 or

[outer dew]

i'd like

to request a ban for catfriend

[lusty grotto]

lmao

[outer dew]

that curse client

is whiter than white

who hates themselves enough to use fucking light mode

[lusty grotto]

wait what

you can change it?

[outer dew]

one of the first things

i did for my curse client

[lusty grotto]

HOW

[outer dew]

lol

i mean

twitch*

[lusty grotto]

i cant find it in settings

pls my eyes

think of my eyes

[outer dew]

lol

click your profile top right

dark mode, 3rd from bottom

[lusty grotto]

praise lord tofu

[outer dew]

so you telling me

this whole tiime

you've been burning your eyes out

lmao

[lusty grotto]

i was lost but now im found

🙏

i literally

[outer dew]

actually showing your age

tbh

lmao

[lusty grotto]

clicked update all and closed it as fast as possible

[outer dew]

LMAO

[lusty grotto]

cause goddamn

[outer dew]

yea, i don't use a lot of lights

when on my PC

if it's bright AF

my eyes get deleted

[lusty grotto]

i dislike using screens with my lights off

any screen really

but i still use dark mode on just about everything

[outer dew]

i see

I hate using light

it's dark as shit

when i'm at a home

and then the second my roommate comes back

i feel like a vampire

because all the lights are on

and i'm thinking WTF

btw how's the new patch nim

[lusty grotto]

i only played yesterday

im crunching tonight

it was fun

at least the solo content

can't wait to fucking step into keys and get sodomized

[outer dew]

is the new affix out?

[lusty grotto]

no

but they increased scaling

[outer dew]

is it gonna be out for raid/

[lusty grotto]

yeah

[outer dew]

what

the fuck

is this affix

LOL

[lusty grotto]

its infested 2.0

[outer dew]

that affix looks so aids

fuck pugging

LMAO

blowback

[lusty grotto]

they nerfed it too

[outer dew]

let me blow this mob into the next pack

holy shit

yikes

that void sight

so indirect nerf to rogues

but still decent for n'elf

"This ability triggers Queen's Decree: Hide increasing Shadow damage dealt by 50% and stacks making subsequent hits of Queen's Decree: Hide hit harder."

can you imagine

this shit in KR

with Zul?

like some of these shit looks absolute aids

[lusty grotto]

yup

but its more aids that they increased scaling without any reasonable way to upgrade your gear

[outer dew]

i think that's fine

[lusty grotto]

20s are 300% now

[outer dew]

having the base 20-22 the some of the players were doing

was kind of ridic

it's just basically so we don't hate ourselves

the second people reach raid

and then have it drop

well, i guess bumped

[lusty grotto]

heh

yeah i dont disagree

[outer dew]

just gonna

be a proffessional

TFT player on league

with 30+ minute queues

that's gonna be the play

[lusty grotto]

League 🤢

[outer dew]

i mean

bro

I'm out of games i currently play

i'm back to wc3 RPGS

lmao

[outer dew]

i haven't played

for like

4-5 years

lol

[lusty grotto]

i havent played in a while either

[outer dew]

and even then

nothing about it wants me to come back

esp since i played in wc3

game lost its spirit

[lusty grotto]

i just cant stand fucking not denying in LoL, and juking is so fucking retarded

[outer dew]

if only i could track how long i've played wc3

tbh

ehh

tbh

mechanically I've gotten worse

[lusty grotto]

go into grass

[outer dew]

but i've accepted it

lol

[lusty grotto]

might as well play HotS

ugh

[outer dew]

I actually do

LOL

[lusty grotto]

fucking HotS man

[outer dew]

WE CALL IT

[lusty grotto]

jesus christ lmao

[outer dew]

PRIME TIME

when the boys get on for HOTS

lmao

[lusty grotto]

good lrod

[outer dew]

but yea

no games look interesting atm

[lusty grotto]

bloodstained

looks great

[outer dew]

meh

that's a kind of game

i wish was on my vita

but will never get on the vita

):

[lusty grotto]

switch

😉

[outer dew]

yea

but I don't have s witch

[lusty grotto]

rip

[outer dew]

I've only owned sony consoles

LOL

PS1/PS2/PS Vita

[lusty grotto]

i've only owned sony and nintendo consoles

[outer dew]

:^)

tbh

i really like the vita

[lusty grotto]

i have never bought an xbox type

[outer dew]

I wish sony invested more in it for the west

tbh

[lusty grotto]

which is why

im def buying the master chief collection soon

as soon as its on PC

[outer dew]

lmao

[lusty grotto]

cause i really wanna play that story

and i also loved playing halo MP on my friends house

[outer dew]

mjmm

oj

FDK having breath as a psuedo generator now?

well

run generator anyway

i like how buff to UDK, is just yea, fuck it. overall 15% damage

[lusty grotto]

i have no idea

i guess?

the only time i played DK was for the mage tower shit

i dislike the class as a whole

[outer dew]

Druids now have a passive ability learned at level 10 that allows Soothe, Remove Corruption, Moonfire, and Rebirth to be cast in Bear Form.

wait

wait wait

HOLD

THE FUCK UP

[lusty grotto]

i suppose someone here could answer you

[outer dew]

oh nvm, good i didn't misread

i just reatrded

i was about to bel ike

[spice ferry]

we have a couple guys who are super excited for FDK

[outer dew]

bear has to hop out of form to

[spice ferry]

sounds like it'll be pretty nutty

[outer dew]

to rebirth/??

but it looks like only cat does

• boomie

oh

they reverted the FR change

bless

[warm plinth]

Which FR change? The added rage thing?

[outer dew]

yea

it looks like it's fat

or was that live

[warm plinth]

So is it just back to how it was before?

[outer dew]

LOL

did the FR ever hit live?

looks like FR just got a buff

[warm plinth]

Hmm

[outer dew]

tbh

not really optimistic about the buffs

your ass still gets shoved in even with IF

[warm plinth]

The only change to FR I would give a shit about is taking it off the GCD tbh

[outer dew]

wish IF was either stronger

or I could stack it easier

[warm plinth]

Well, making mastery affect it wouldn't be bad

[outer dew]

meh, doesn't matter if IF doesn't mitigate enough

[warm plinth]

Nah I agree

Maybe some of the essences will make enough of a difference

[outer dew]

hmm

no buffs to fire mage

[warm plinth]

I really hate when you're down to the wire on rep and have nothing to do to raise it.

[outer dew]

just don't play

:^)

[warm plinth]

wat

[outer dew]

no rep if you no play

and wait wtf

when did arms start doing well again

????

[warm plinth]

Where's that from?

[outer dew]

oh

nvm

[warm plinth]

BoD?

[outer dew]

that's why

[warm plinth]

That's probably 8.2

lol

[outer dew]

it's because it showing 8.2 bod

i was like

what the fuck

[warm plinth]

Yeah they're still rock bottom for 8.1.5

[outer dew]

fucks up

arms rage gen

lows just not reduce the nerf

we yolo add more damage

actually kind of sad

man

don't really see areason to come back for 8.2

seems like classes play the same

[spice ferry]

think it really depends on the spec/essence combo

[outer dew]

@lusty grotto

actually in sane

and anyone buy anything off steam sale?

[undone sun]

i want t o

[lusty grotto]

🤷

[outer dew]

hmm

been debating if i was gonna pick up something

like diseaga 5

but i have 3/4 on my vita

that I haven't finished

🤔

[undone sun]

mhw is 50%

tempting

[lusty grotto]

finished it in ps4

:\

its ok

[outer dew]

how does 5 compare to 4?

[lusty grotto]

but older MH are better

[outer dew]

oh

yo utalking about MHW

scammed af

[lusty grotto]

no g rank ftl

but there will be g rank in the expansion

[warm plinth]

Was hoping DSR would be on sale for less than it is :/

$23 is still more than I want to pay for a game I've already gotten all the trophies on PS4 for lol

[outer dew]

DSR?

[warm plinth]

Dark Souls Remastered

[outer dew]

i don't have a controller

can't imagine a life like that

lmao

[lusty grotto]

i want DSR on switch

[warm plinth]

Same

But need a Switch first XD

[lusty grotto]

i cant fucking believe the switch is so good for those types of games

[outer dew]

i mean

i like hand helds

[lusty grotto]

i would generally be all pc master race and shit

[outer dew]

i've been really tempted for a switch

but ehh

nah, hand helds have a place

lots of games I can playthrough on my vita

[lusty grotto]

idk man you like weebo shit

[outer dew]

but I can't go through on my PC

that's actually

hella toxic

[lusty grotto]

and switch has plenty of it

[warm plinth]

I think you mean true

[outer dew]

????

[lusty grotto]

(i don't, but it still has plenty of shit i like)

[outer dew]

ya know I don't watch anime

[lusty grotto]

PERSONA THOUGH

[outer dew]

because of the people who enjyo anime

LMAO

oi

[warm plinth]

lolol

[outer dew]

Persona has a soft spot

[warm plinth]

I mean we still love you and shit

You're just a weeb

[outer dew]

that's

toxic AF

[warm plinth]

❤

[outer dew]

what weeb thing have I done

[lusty grotto]

diseaga or whatever you said

[outer dew]

LMAO

come on mang

I haven't even finished it

and i've had a vita

for like 5+ years

LMAO

[lusty grotto]

yo i bought nintendo stock for the first time after e3

thats how much i believe in the switch

even after all the pokemon backlash and animal shit or whatever

and btw im mad about the pokemon shit too cause i have an almost full living dex

[outer dew]

as you can see

i really enjoy turnbased games

lmao

[wispy plume]

best embrace for Zand Troll?

Paku for crit dps/possible parry?

[outer dew]

shoo shoo

thisi s chill hour

:^)

[lusty grotto]

let me think about pc games

[undone sun]

my brain too small for turn based

[lusty grotto]

obviously cyberpunk

[outer dew]

tbf

most of the games that are listed

aren't really true turn based

[lusty grotto]

no i mean like upcoming games

the only turn based games i have liked are pre-ff13 final fantasies and pokemong :\

[outer dew]

lol

you see the pokemon mmorpg or w.e

[lusty grotto]

i dislike ogre tactic-like games like xcom

[outer dew]

bootleg

[undone sun]

don't think i've ever completed a turn based game

[outer dew]

bootleg*

tbh

i feel like shit nowadays

[lusty grotto]

nah i dont really care about unofficial names

games*

[outer dew]

don't have the patience to get good

[lusty grotto]

@wispy plume most people use Paku

[outer dew]

at FPS games anymore

tbh

[lusty grotto]

i do fine in apex

and battlefield

those are the only ones i've been playing lately

[outer dew]

like

grinding out the skill level

to play CS:GO

[lusty grotto]

did some pubg a while ago

[outer dew]

at a decent level with friends

was not worth

lmao

[lusty grotto]

bro i refuse to get into CS again

[outer dew]

YEA

because when you rusty

[lusty grotto]

last time i played CS was in 1.7

[outer dew]

you get back and you feel like garbage

lmao

like cs:go is a different monster when it comes to shooters

[lusty grotto]

i should try GO now that its free honestly

[outer dew]

wait

[lusty grotto]

but i haven't gotten around to it

[outer dew]

@undone sun so you looking at any games 👀

ehh

it's frustrating to relearn how to aim

lol

i hopped on again for abit

and was like

fuuuuuuuck thius

[undone sun]

why you offering 👀

[lusty grotto]

well if youve been playing FPShooters, you never lose it

[outer dew]

nah

aiming for cs:go

is way different

compared to other shooters

is the thing

you'll lose it

[lusty grotto]

nah man, you're overestimating it

[outer dew]

naaaaaaaaaaaah

i threw in like 5 hours trying to get back in the groove

and recoil muscle memory wasn't there

[lusty grotto]

i mean

[outer dew]

wdym

i gotta see

[lusty grotto]

idk i guess that's kind of a personal thing

[outer dew]

what the legendary thyme plays

[lusty grotto]

but i get used to recoil really fast

btw

i play inverted

[outer dew]

you

monster

LMAO

[lusty grotto]

and ive been thinking about playing non-inverted

[outer dew]

next thing you tell me

you gonna play cs with a controller

[lusty grotto]

i mean

[undone sun]

...

[lusty grotto]

no

[outer dew]

see

[lusty grotto]

why in the hell would i wanna do that lmao

[outer dew]

even thyme was disgusted by that idea

LMAO

[undone sun]

wait

what do you mean even thyme

[outer dew]

because you truly hate yourself

[undone sun]

???

[lusty grotto]

the day i play FPS on PC with a controller is the day i go get my testicles removed or something

[outer dew]

EVEN THYME

i mean

[lusty grotto]

you cant compare inverted to controllers

[outer dew]

a friend wanted a vasectomy recently

lmao

so i mean

[undone sun]

good decision ngl

[lusty grotto]

ive played inverted since quake2

[outer dew]

one pregnancy scare

and now he wants

the loops from risking it

[lusty grotto]

i'm just wondering how long it'll take to get used to regular y-axis

lmao

it happens

[outer dew]

no pregnancy scare if you no get laid

that's the real play

[lusty grotto]

vasectomies aren't that bad honestly

from what i've heard

[undone sun]

i agree but im a bit biased

[lusty grotto]

and they save you a shitton of money LMAO

[undone sun]

yup

[outer dew]

hmm, i see, i see

wait wtf

[last mason]

1xbfi or ms for m+

[outer dew]

portal 2 99 cents

[undone sun]

get it

[outer dew]

ait what loser wants one

[undone sun]

p2 is great

[outer dew]

i have portal 2

lmao

[undone sun]

🤣

[last mason]

is meticulous any good

[outer dew]

hmmm

if nothing has changed

then you probably still want BFI

[honest frigate]

Yeah meticulous is really strong

[outer dew]

esp if you pug a lot

[lusty grotto]

meticulous is good

but BFI might be better now that the scaling is out of fucking whack

i personally used MS on my helm before yesterday

dunno if i'll reforge

probably will

[outer dew]

wait

I'M STILL IN QUEUE FOR THIS GAME MODE

fucking better off playing wc3 custom maps

lmao

[lusty grotto]

🤔

[fluid beacon]

Is anyone in here using Khakhan's Prot Warrior WA string?

[lusty grotto]

i use it

[fluid beacon]

Hey, do you have a green bar showing on your screen when you pop avatar?

[lusty grotto]

hmm no

but there was an update to it

[fluid beacon]

I updated WA just now. Deleted the entire string and re-installed

[lusty grotto]

let me check real quick

[fluid beacon]

Update to Khakhans? Last update I see is from months ago

thanks

[lusty grotto]

uhh well the weakaura companion said there was an update

[fluid beacon]

WA Companion?

[lusty grotto]

actually let me check

[fluid beacon]

Is that the addon that checks all your WAs

[lusty grotto]

yes

its an app not an addon

[fluid beacon]

I have that. Let me try that

Haven't used it in months. I forgot about it

[lusty grotto]

just checking cause maybe there wasn't one

nope works just fine

yeah there was no update

[fluid beacon]

Hmm I don't understand then

😦

Only when I avatar

[lusty grotto]

yeah im avatar'd there

might be another WA

messing with it

[fluid beacon]

It's not because when I highlight Khakhans WA it shows that green bar too

[lusty grotto]

this is what it shows when i highlight it

[sudden kayak]

hey i just came back to wow after like 6 months um take it easy on me i just want to know when i look at the new bosses did they already put them out since there loot is 415 or when will the new world bosses be put out

[lusty grotto]

just look for anything else that might have this eye icon opened

[fluid beacon]

I found what part it is

@lusty grotto

If you click the Khakhan buff and drop down the menu to show all individual parts, do you see a portion that says "Avatar Buff"?

[lusty grotto]

are you sure you have the correct version?

i dont have that at all

[fluid beacon]

Could you link me the version you have? The wagio link pls?

[lusty grotto]

https://wago.io/ProtectionWarrior_Khakhan/37

[fluid beacon]

Yup, that's the one I have

I guess I can delete that "avatar buff" portion

I don't even know what it's supposed to show

[lusty grotto]

i mean i dont have that sub aura

[fluid beacon]

So strange

[lusty grotto]

delete it and download it from that link

make sure you click

delete children and group

[fluid beacon]

I did that earlier, did't work

Ill try one more time

thanks for all the help!

[lusty grotto]

ah

i do have it

[fluid beacon]

what does it show?

[lusty grotto]

maybe you're missing a texture from somewhere?

did you do that?

[fluid beacon]

No I didn't

[lusty grotto]

that must be it

[fluid beacon]

But before 8.2 I never had this issue. Maybe 8.2 did something

Now I wonder what that bar is actually showing

[lusty grotto]

do that thing he says though

[fluid beacon]

What is this buff supposed to show?

ok

[trim bay]

So do we gem strength now?

[lusty grotto]

yeah the 120 one

[trim bay]

just in 1 socket or all

[lusty grotto]

you can only gem in 1 socket

its unique

[trim bay]

Oooooo

Ty

would have wasted a fuck load of gold

[last mason]

how are u guys feeling about the clap nerf, i went from 43k claps to 26k~

feelssmolclapman

vquiet clap

[crystal hemlock]

so did anyone else notice they accidentally buffed the refracting prism?

instead of nerfing it

[undone sun]

recently?

[lusty grotto]

yes we know

they upped the scaling of trinkets

[crystal hemlock]

i assumed a 30% nerf on the trinket for tanks wouldn't equal me gaining 30k more shielding

even with that scaling

[sand trout]

new weapon for plate wearers

[last mason]

yea i got the shield

from a rare

[last mason]

Should we be using lucid like an extra defensive?

For the ips?

[mental scarab]

Is that a shield?

[warm plinth]

No, lucid is the 100% increased rage gain I thought 🤔 for the major

[last mason]

Well yea, but how is it really@an offensive tool for prot

Unless you wanna spam revenge

[warm plinth]

It's not really; that's why we aren't going to use the major when we have other options.

I don't think I'd even use Lucid by itself

tbh

[last mason]

It sucks cuz I also hate using crucible

[orchid token]

Lucid would be better if it was shield block like it is SOTR for paladins

[warm plinth]

You can get worldvein pretty easily @last mason

Crucible is good but only for single target

[last mason]

Which one is that again? And how do you get it

[undone sun]

https://questionablyepic.com/essence-drop-locations/

[warm plinth]

It's the one that spawns the lifeshards or whatever on the ground that give you main stat

I got it after doing 4 heroic islands

[last mason]

Ohh it’s an island thing

[warm plinth]

That was also enough to get the map pieces to get the mission for rank 2

[last mason]

I’ve literally never done an island

Guess it’s time

[warm plinth]

They're really easy; just run around and kill rares until the meter fills up; takes like 6 mins

Less if the other two people are competent

[last mason]

Do you prot or fury

[warm plinth]

I play prot when I play warrior.

[chilly brook]

I suppose you could say that lucid is an offensive in that it feeds into AM which gives you more avatar 🙃

[warm plinth]

Mind you, I'm not saying you should use Worldvein forever necessarily; I would just say it's probably better than using Lucid without Visions

[dark lark]

is there a macro for using essences, like /use 13 or 14 was for trinkets

or do i just have to type /use blahblah of blah

[warm plinth]

Could try /use 2 (think that's what the neck slot is) but I would imagine you just have to do the name of it.

[sand condor]

Hi guys

How bad is the nerf

[oblique garnet]

[undone sun]

less impactful than one might think

[sand condor]

Thanks 😃

[split estuary]

guys

who is better tank in keys Pladain or warrior?

[undone sun]

i'd argue it's less about the class and more about who's piloting it

[warm plinth]

Seems odd to ask that question in a warrior discord

We won't be biased at all 😉

[oblique garnet]

Guardian

[undone sun]

rogue

[warm plinth]

You guys are being ridiculous. Voidwalkers are the new BiS tank

[sand condor]

Bruh

Vengeance dh

Best class

[sick sentinel]

What's the ppm of the 12s haste proc punchcard from mechagon?

[gray gyro]

so I am curious to you prots out there, I got one myself at 414 but havent bothered to play it yet. how do you find the changes so far?

[dark lark]

its fine

damage nerf isnt really that bad

[willow scarab]

damage nerf super noticable on aoe, you do so so much less than you use to on a big burst aoe

[gray gyro]

I am still baffled by the fact that they never buffed shield slam in response to the single target damage nerf, like, we were already terrible in that aspect

[willow scarab]

It's only really avatar that's affected

Prot ST was tied for #1 tank ST

[craggy viper]

@gray gyro are you high?

prot is insane in st

[willow fractal]

is any of the benthic gear BIS slot prot warrior or even good for prot warrior?

[strong forum]

The boots are looking real' good

[sick sentinel]

With a max of 425 ilvl... I don't think we'll be using them

[lime mantle]

Sad they don’t go higher

[strong forum]

Well obv

But I thought its implied that it'll be obsolete in 2 weeks

[sick sentinel]

the benthic helm is really good

for traits

if ur looking to use for the next 2-3 weeks

[lime mantle]

doesn’t mythic raid first boss drop a BoM +Tc one!”?

[strong forum]

Pretty sure the only good raid pieces are from 3rd 4th and 6th boss

Or do you mean BoD

Cuz that's BoM + DC chest.

Neither TC or helmet so..

[lime mantle]

First one isn’t a fish girl that drops hat?

[strong forum]

Well I heard you can do the 1st 3 bosses in whatever order you like so I suppose It could be 1st boss in a sense

Radiance of azshara drops a DC + BoM helmet

Orgozoa is one of the 3 entrance bosses that drops helmet but that's BoM + BS so that's meh

[lime mantle]

Isn’t radiance one of the first three?

I also meant orgpzpa I guess I got her and radiance having DC mixed

[strong forum]

Radiance is 5th or 6th

Too lazy to check that

[austere oar]

third one in codex

[sand condor]

yoyoy guys whats the quickets way to gear rn

just do nazjatar?

[austere oar]

nazjatar can give you a full 385 pretty quickly

[sand condor]

if you're already at taht level can't you get higher?

[tough vault]

you can buy gear for pearls. 5 a piece for 385 gear.

then you upgrade it with more pearls. 20 the first time, to get to 400.

I'd suggest tho -- do the intro on 2 characters.

dont spend the pearls on your main.

do the stuff on the 2nd character, the whole day. Buy the BoA gear for you main and send it over... then boost that with the pearls you saved by not spending it on the gear 😛

... I realized this just as I went to bed.

https://tenor.com/view/arrested-development-season1-comedy-gob-ive-made-ahuge-mistake-gif-3450456

[gray gyro]

what if you alt outgears your main 😮

[tough vault]

even better, you dont feel bad for spending the pearls lol

[strong forum]

Get 385,dont spend pearls and do m+

The real man's strat

[rancid cedar]

Hi guys, anyone tested prot in m+ yet? Is it still doing enough damage to be considered good?

[austere oar]

prot dmg isn't the only thing that makes it good

but yeah still good

[orchid garden]

Has anyone tested a build with vengeance and heavy repercussion/ravager for M+ recently? I know it deals much less damage, but is it viable? I hardly dislike the cooldown/dps playstyle around avatar/demoshout.

[ionic fern]

Is it optimal? No,definetly not.
Would i advice you to do it? No,definetly not.
Is it better than the AM/BV? No,definetly not.

Can you do some basic m+? Yes you can.

It's a game after all...if you dislike the playstyle of AM/BV then go play around with other talents..gotta enjoy the game.
Just remember that it's not optimal and you will fall behind in dps and in defensives both compared to the AM/BV.

[sick sentinel]

yah.. thats the key is that its not just DPS you're losing, but a ton defense

[strong forum]

AM is the sole reason why prot works

If we don't have that. GL keeping up fam

[rancid cedar]

AM?

[strong forum]

Anger Management

[rancid cedar]

thanks

[thorny pumice]

Has sphere of suppression always been that you need to complete all 3 options or was it 1 on the PTR? The tooltip on WoWhead made it seem like you could pick which one you wanted to do

[willow scarab]

I thought it was 1 based on ptr as well but it's okay even though it's 3 on live

takes no time at all

[orchid token]

he says

after

dragging me into a 45 minute ashran

for an essence i wont use

and during which some people from kiljaeden said some veyr mean things to me

[lime mantle]

You did answer them back, right?

[lament crypt]

so what essence is lookign the best for M+ still the 25% crit one ? or the Avatar one ?

[exotic spoke]

[lament crypt]

ty

bae

[junior ivy]

wait are people still doin ashran?

[mystic whale]

its a new BG

well, "new"

WoD ashran doesnt exist anymore but its been added to the epic bg list

[junior ivy]

hm

i used to do ashran in legion

to collect soemtjhin

i forget what

[ionic fern]

Items..for something...for someone...

👌

[undone sun]

sounds just like ashran

👌

[timid jay]

I never did ashran

Did I miss anything?

[strong forum]

No

[timid jay]

Gucci

[spice ferry]

some parts of it were alright

[willow scarab]

ashran was litty

but not the bg, the dailies in the zone

[junior ivy]

oh it was for

the auction house

in my um

my area?

whats it called

[austere oar]

garrison

[thorny pumice]

I didnt have much of an issue with the BG or epic BG but my guildies effectively let us get steam rolled in a PvP island 🙃

I did 2 last night after 25 minute queues each and noped out

[junior ivy]

garrison yeah

i spent like a million gold on parts for the garrison auctionb house

during legion

and never used it once

[strong forum]

Wait there's long q for pvp islands?

[willow scarab]

I was getting instant queues

[thorny pumice]

There was for us, I'd never done them before

[willow scarab]

I've done 8 since patch

[thorny pumice]

We did them between 9:30-11:30 PM EST last night

[willow scarab]

I've done them at all different times of the day

[strong forum]

Might do some today cuz Islands is more ap/h than full WQ clear I reckon

[willow scarab]

all the guides say to do the WQs that don't give AP as well

....might as well just do an island

[strong forum]

Fuck WQs

[willow scarab]

each wq that doesn't giev AP is worth 25ap

[strong forum]

Lamo

[willow scarab]

and island is worth 450 minimum

[strong forum]

Ye

Tfw only 51 yet

Cuz the patch sucks so far imo

[willow scarab]

nobody wanted to do islands with me today

so i'm 53.8

i only gained .53 today

we also didn't kill uunat so i'm not gonna get a cheese clear of BoD with rank 2 crucible and a minor essence on sunday 😦

[strong forum]

I've only played for 4hrs yesterday and cleared literally everything in nazj and mecha. Very disappointed

[thorny pumice]

I have to beg guildies for islands even tho they take like 10 mins and are just easy ap

[strong forum]

10min?

More like 3-6

[willow scarab]

I mean they're just WQ zones now

islands nerfed

they're like 7 min average for me

[strong forum]

Really now

Haven't paid attention

[willow scarab]

Less shit is available on the map

[strong forum]

But I did my 3 veeeery chill

Just pulling everything

[willow scarab]

it's really obvious when you do a rabbit charm clear a nd finish the entire map with 9k/12k collected

[strong forum]

And yoloing

[willow scarab]

giga pull is now the only meta for speed

[strong forum]

Very comfy, can recommend

Finally got motivation for island spam

[spice ferry]

is the content like coming out daily?

[strong forum]

Weekly

Every reset a bit more of War campaign shtuff

[spice ferry]

it definitely felt like there was more do to that wasn't wq/dailies today, might be imagining

[strong forum]

Well you upgraded follower I reckon

That's linked with new quests

[worthy dagger]

is BoM not stacking anymore?

[strong forum]

?

I jump from 19 to 58% with BoM

[worthy dagger]

weird, i popped avatar and only got 1 BoM instead of 3x

[strong forum]

Mastery*

Re-equip it, I've heard of cases where you azerite gets bugged

[orchid token]

the other nice thing about islands ive noticed is way less "know exactly what this does or you're dead"

for example the upheaval cast on the big stone boys that used to be a single target 50%+ hp nuke on you is now a frontal stun cone

[strong forum]

That's what I meant with them being comfy

You can actually tank stuff now

Nothing hits % based anymore

Its now what it should've been to begin with

A chill grind

[spice ferry]

yeah now that you're mentioning it

that definitely makes sense

[sick sentinel]

Nah fuck that, make all trash unable to be cc'd

Gotta waste 20+ mins

[analog swift]

tbh I don't hate islands and never really understood why people despised them. They were always pretty quick to get done.

[river monolith]

I hate islands because I expected more of them.

[sick sentinel]

Always keep your expectations at a critical low at all times

[lime mantle]

But why

What aspect of wow hasn’t been “mindlessly genocide mobs” outside of mythic raids which are “play Simon sez for genocide purposes”.

Doing islands with rabbit foot is miserable tho

[junior ivy]

whats rabbit foot

[strong forum]

I fail so see what's wrong with mindlessly genocide mobs

That's what's fun about m+

Tryharding in wow isn't fun whatsoever

Tryharding in pve*
In pvp it used to be fun, but now it's all about 'oh I'm facing this class, guess I'll just kms'

Or in general 'oh I'm warri, guess I'll just kms'

[jagged bay]

hi did you guys test the new weapon enchantments? like the nagahide one

[runic hare]

What is the nagahide one doing anyway

[warm plinth]

Gives you str when you dodge/block/parry

[jagged bay]

if you block dodge or parry you get 264 strength or agility for 15 sec and 15k absorb while the effect is active

[warm plinth]

Well, chance to get strength anyway

[jagged bay]

yea but there is one which give strength and haste together

[runic hare]

That sounds nice

[strong forum]

I'm not sold on the enchants yet

And nagahide just sounds awful

[willow scarab]

I just simmed them

naga hide is nice it's like resounding protection

force multiplier is the top performing dps enchant

i was doing uunat prog with naga hide

[strong forum]

Hm.

[willow scarab]

Also you use a str gem now

[strong forum]

I don't have 170JW yet, but I guess I'll just buy it

[warm plinth]

Yeah force is basically str + mastery during Avatar, haste during aoe, and I guess could be crit possibly on ST outside of Avatar (depending on your stats)

[willow scarab]

It's like 10k

[strong forum]

Oof

[willow scarab]

force randomly rolls your secondary stat

[strong forum]

I'm using force

[warm plinth]

? Says on wowhead your highest stat is chosen

[willow scarab]

It's not suppose to but it does

[strong forum]

To try it out, but if it's better ima stick to it then

[warm plinth]

Ah

[willow scarab]

it has stupid ppm

go look at some of the BoD logs

[wheat python]

stupid as in good, or stupid as in bad?

[willow scarab]

stupidly high

[warm plinth]

Since he's talking about it being good, I'd guess good :p

[junior ivy]

fumeiyo your pic 😦

[willow scarab]

also the icon is cool so it makes a nice WA

The cat is me and the cool hat is my logs

[junior ivy]

lol it looks so sad 😦 😦

[warm plinth]

🤣

[willow scarab]

It's had a crying person shopped onto it

[strong forum]

Pretty sure she knows the meme

[willow scarab]

Maybe

[strong forum]

Coughing cat would fit more I feel like

[willow scarab]

I just like this one because of the cool hat

[strong forum]

Coughing hat cat

Or bust

[willow scarab]

i should probably have a smoke before wqs come back up

big 54 tomorrow nice cool

[strong forum]

WQs :pepegahands:

Im not touching WQs outside of nazj, only islands

[warm plinth]

I managed to get all my Zuldazar WQs done before reset...hoping I'll have enough between the WQs and the assault that I'll get exalted 😄

[willow scarab]

Enjoy your 52 neck

casual

👀

[strong forum]

If you spam islands you get more

Than wqs

[willow scarab]

honey i'm doing both

[warm plinth]

😂

[strong forum]

I know

Why bother with WQ if Island is more

[willow scarab]

I went to bed rank 3 in the world and i'm never letting go of that

[strong forum]

That's my question

[willow scarab]

because i don't have friends to play islands with