nono peps
#protection
hardy holly
lusty grotto
no, we always recommend you equip your highest ilvl azerite
warm plinth
Yeah. You don't go down in ilevel.
lusty grotto
im not a pep, sorry
hardy holly
i dont even know what a pep is lol
hardy holly
lul
lusty grotto
pep talk maybe
hardy holly
so my problem is this:
in 8.2 i am starting from scratch a war prot and i need to do heavy aoe with him
benthic gear provides some good traits
hardy holly
so lets assume
warm plinth
Well, the first DC is an exception.
warm plinth
You'd use the 420
lusty grotto
first dc isn't really an exception anymore since most of the gear has it though
hardy holly
what is dc?
warm plinth
Deafening Crash
If miraculously you don't have DC (as Nim said most gear has it though), you could sacrifice 15 ilevel for only the first one.
hardy holly
doesn't wowhead provide all the traits a piece has?
because if it has and then i am looking at all traits the benthic gear have
the chest has one
the shoulder has bloodsprot
and head has revenge
or maybe they are not in that order but those are the 3 i get
hardy holly
oh yeah yeah there are 6
but i see no other DC in them
so if wowhead shows it all only chest has it
lusty grotto
that's fine
assuming you're only looking at benthic
because just about everything has it on the residuum vendor
hardy holly
i think for azerite i am going benthic because
i never played prot, and i have the necessity of having it geared fast for a specific build of aoe fight
so what i will do is
paying a couple million golds in m+10 boosts
get all gear but azerite
warm plinth
A lot of people will be using Benthic at first. But it should be fairly easy to access DC is all he's saying.
lusty grotto
🤷
hardy holly
oh yeah if i can manage to get other m+ boosts in following weeks yeah
not gonna learn mechanics to do it myself tho
ahahah
lusty grotto
i mean
if you cant play prot
low keys is a good way to learn
getting boosts does nothing for practice
🤷
hardy holly
i dont need to get good on it
it's a very specific thing what i must do
just need it from 0 to 415 as fast as i can
then the skill required for what i have to do is smashing buttons on keyboard like a monkey
lusty grotto
if you say so
rapid jewel
let me guess, trying to boost?
warm plinth
The skill required is higher than you might think...it's not a faceroll spec.
lusty grotto
just to be clear, you're not gonna do a shitload of dps just mashing thunder clap
but
its your sub
hardy holly
one of six
steel mauve
problem with a proactive tank is that there is actual thought involved
hardy holly
i never stated that i think prot is an easy class, also because i dont think it
i just said that what i have to do is easy
prot can be the hardest mathematical problem to solve in the world
if you enter icc, you oneshot the lich king
because it's easy the lich king, it has nothing to do with prot
lusty grotto
why specifically prot
then
and not a dps class
not sure why you're being cryptic about it lol
hardy holly
mine was just an example
because we are trying to push the abuse time as fast as possible
*as later as possible
or whatever you spell that in english
lusty grotto
but why prot and not a dps
hardy holly
if you know any other class that can mass aoe mobs in normal without dying
lusty grotto
DHs?
rapid jewel
110 overgeared DH. If you try FH boosting, its not gonna work with 415 gear and the avatar nerf incoming
hardy holly
like maybe there is a stronger one but we dont have time to go look on it
lusty grotto
i wasn't talking about VDHs
im talking about Havok
but anyway
it sounds like an exploit so
im just not gonna keep going lmao
hardy holly
I understand the attitude of you all btw
i otp mordekaiser in league of legends and now that they reworked him i uninstalled
too annoyed of seeing randoms play it
so i would be an hypocrite to say you should be happy to help me on prot
XD
sick sentinel
Hello
warm plinth
Tbh I'm just really really confused at what you're trying to accomplish. Using your example, you're working this hard to gear up very quickly so you can do what? Trivial content?
empty inlet
mordekaiser LUL
sick sentinel
I tried to scroll to get a sense of what's up
sick sentinel
And I have no idea what the hell are you talking about
lusty grotto
yeah me neither
west galleon
imagine playing dota loooooooooool
icy kiln
hi guys. You think that prot warrior will still meta s3 m+ or other tank?
warm plinth
We will probably be meta. Or at least one of the top tanks.
icy kiln
ty, think think that clap nerf will have a great impact?
west galleon
read pinned\
graceful linden
hey guys, all my weakauras got deleted and i am trying to find this specific weakaura. It tracks avatar/demo shout and also had that symbol for shield block and spell reflect, any ideas?
steel mauve
could just make your own to replace them if you cant find it
lusty grotto
no idea sorry
sick sentinel
graceful linden
all good! Will prob make one tonight, thanks
humble tundra
Is naga hide gonna be better than quick nav once patch comes?
lusty grotto
there's quite a lot of better looking ones in wago @graceful linden
sick sentinel
@humble tundra probs not, we might look at the str+stats one though
humble tundra
@sick sentinel the force multiplyer one? I can see that being good as well. My thoughts go to naga, since it triggers when we avoid crap.
sick sentinel
Because of the nature of the spec in mplus you need a lot of testing and logging to reach a conclusion
And for the raid bigboi marok does ze math so wait for those 2 things to happen
humble tundra
Fair enough 😃 Swapping bank to my tank this teir. Got bored of healing
distant crystal
i'm still not sure what i wanna main this tier
think i'm just gonna wait and see what's needed
analog zinc
bear
distant crystal
i have a druid/rogue/mage/priest/warrior ready to roll for next tier
bear is on the menu :p
lusty grotto
im a big boy now
warm plinth
You got it?
lusty grotto
ye
warm plinth
Sick, congrats
lusty grotto
tyty
warm plinth
I got higher than I expected considering how late in the season I actually started doing shit
stoic pilot
what io were you gunning for nim?
spice ferry
yeah, if you hit your goal then grats
im trying to end the season with war/dk at 2k. Warrior sitting at 1.8 atm
warm plinth
I got up to 1285 on my DH. Got my +10 achievement 😅
lusty grotto
thanks guys
stoic pilot
i had bad internet literally half of the push weeks so I never really got to push during the prime weeks
specifically bolstering skittish so that's a feels bad
lusty grotto
kinda funny how KR gives you so many io jesus man haha
thank god spit gold is getting nerfed
gonna be weird trying to push next week
with the nerf and no visions
spice ferry
i have my warrior at 1.8 and my dk at 2.1 and I still don't have the 15 achieve 😂
lusty grotto
no more carrying subpar dps
warm plinth
Wow, really?
west galleon
team refuse to do a 15 kr
lusty grotto
hmm what are you missing though
spice ferry
TD on the war, WC on the DK
lusty grotto
well those 2 are super easy this week at least
west galleon
damn you should've done 15 td before tuesday
spice ferry
yeah had a crack at one today, pugs couldn't handle interupting jes
lusty grotto
i can talk to one of them to see if they want to run if youre horde/NA
spice ferry
yeah NA horde. see how we go tonight if not ill hit you up 😄
im still hoping rngesus blesses us
lusty grotto
sure
we got all flavors i think
from 15 to 18 iirc
i gotta get my brother shrine done, and shammy friend siege
and that's all the achieves for the people i usually run with when they decide to log on lol
sick sentinel
425 haste crit belt from shrine
spice ferry
lusty grotto
gz gz!
crit haste ring dropped from a shrine i did the other day 425
err sorry siege
but i had to pass it down 😦
west galleon
you HAD to pass it down?
oblique garnet
west galleon
one of my rings is still 400 xd
lusty grotto
well at least it won't feel bad for long considering 8.2
west galleon
i've gotten 1 425 all of bfa 😔 and i even do a lot of dungeons qq
lusty grotto
whats the chest ilvl for 8.2? 440?
warm plinth
Weekly chest is 440
lusty grotto
ah
warm plinth
Yeah, weekly is 5 ilevel below mythic
spice ferry
yes sorry mybad
spice ferry
430 heroic, 445 mythic, 440 cachce
west galleon
those two weeks between 8.2 and raid are gonna be big sad
spice ferry
presume so?
west galleon
someone said something about it capping 420
spice ferry
yeah ive heard it capping at 420
west galleon
but idk if that's right
warm plinth
Unknown at this point. They were at 420 on the PTR but Blizzard hasn't announced anything for sure.
spice ferry
but that doesn't seem right
lusty grotto
hmm...
spice ferry
ill ree so hard if thats the case
lusty grotto
they probably want people to raid or what the hell
west galleon
it would be interesting if m+ wouldn't give full raid quality gear
distant crystal
with the new tier/season so close
warm plinth
That would be asinine.
oblique garnet
Heroic week capped at 420
distant crystal
big forges kinda bum me out
spice ferry
so its 430 after mythic opens ?
distant crystal
455 after mythic
spice ferry
I thought heroic week would be capped at 415
lusty grotto
oh that makes sense
distant crystal
heroic drops 430 base
warm plinth
Where's the source on that? I haven't read anything that says one way or the other.
spice ferry
yeah neither, yet everyone keeps mentioning 420
oblique garnet
It was the same when bod opened
west galleon
it was 420 on ptr but idk
oblique garnet
On ptr the loot was capped at 385
spice ferry
yeah, that's why I thought it would be 415 M+ cap in heroic week
cause thats the normal raid ilvl
distant crystal
i would imagine it would be 425
oblique garnet
🤷
distant crystal
m+ capped at 395 before BoD mythic came out
warm plinth
The important thing is that it goes up to 430 on mythic week, if that's how they're doing it.
spice ferry
it was 385 i thought?
distant crystal
people were spamming 5s and 6s
warm plinth
Having 420s from +10s all season would be stupid.
oblique garnet
It was capped at 385 not 395
lusty grotto
wait you sure it was before mythic came out?
spice ferry
so it should be 415 from a +6, and 430 from a 10 the following week
distant crystal
so i guess we'll be doing 5's next week for 415 base gear
covert cypress
Ok, Indomitable or Bolster?
spice ferry
presuming their not making BS changes to try force people to heroic
distant crystal
with a 425 forge cap
spice ferry
@covert cypress bolster
warm plinth
Here's the post from going into Season 2
covert cypress
Ok
spice ferry
so presuming nothing changes, 415 week 1, 430 after that
west galleon
so 410 this week 410 next week 410 the next week then 415?
spice ferry
and a 440 cache
warm plinth
No it'll go up to 430 when mythic opens (presumably)
warm plinth
From end-of-dungeon chests
distant crystal
it's currently mythic raid ilvl -5
warm plinth
Because that aligns with how things are now
west galleon
well it would be 410 going into 8.2 then 2 more 410 caches then season 2 starts right
warm plinth
Yeah you're talkinga bout the chest. I'm talking about end of dungeon
distant crystal
oh
warm plinth
Weekly chest is 440 from the get go
Just like weekly chest was 410 from the get go in season 2
spice ferry
end of dungeon will be 415, cache at reset of that week (should) give you 440.
End of dungeon week 2 will be 430, cache still 440
distant crystal
the next two weeks the only real change will be essences
lusty grotto
ok so basically just need a 10 done in 2 weeks
distant crystal
and neck beyond 50
warm plinth
Basically yeah, if they do it the same way
lusty grotto
first mythic boss drops shield yeah?
spice ferry
Nah @lusty grotto
lusty grotto
fuck
lusty grotto
yup
spice ferry
cause keys went down 2 (or 3?) lvls at end of season
distant crystal
i think 17 will give you a 14
warm plinth
The normal 1, then 3 extra
distant crystal
2 lower than normal
spice ferry
yeah presuming s2 and s3 are the same in this regard
west galleon
first boss drops a 1h int mace, agi dagger, agi fist weapon, agi polearm, 1h str axe, crossbow
only thing is no 2h str or 2h int
or shield
spice ferry
yes
distant crystal
spice ferry
but you wanna do a 15 really.
distant crystal
re: first boss loot
spice ferry
So then you get an 11 key week 1, and then a 10 key mythic week
distant crystal
no 2her or shield
west galleon
2nd boss drops both tho
spice ferry
just incase shits fucked, you can easily get your weekly done each week until you're more geared and handling things better, or have figured the new affix out
distant crystal
3rd boss
lusty grotto
yeah just saw waat
distant crystal
unless they're in a different order
lusty grotto
sivara is first boss yeah?
lusty grotto
fuck man
distant crystal
dungeon guide is in wrong order then
lusty grotto
hmm
west galleon
ya i dunno i didn't do the raid wowhead just might have them in the wrong order
or ya non-linear
distant crystal
some of these raid trinkets look a little wonky
lusty grotto
my guild has been dead since NH
west galleon
get new guild 😃
lusty grotto
tried looking for another but
lusty grotto
got tired of it, since most tank spots are locked
west galleon
https://ptr.wowhead.com/item=168891/cursed-lovers-ring this looks interesting
distant crystal
dps with a tank OS are much more in demand than a pure tank
lusty grotto
yeah dunno, we'll see
distant crystal
like a wedding ring
west galleon
https://ptr.wowhead.com/item=169314/azsharas-font-of-power&bonus=4798:1487 and this trinket before a large pull 🤔
lusty grotto
wow
distant crystal
30 seconds of 3353 str
lusty grotto
those 2 are interesting
distant crystal
seems solid
west galleon
yeet plus crit is always fun
lusty grotto
hmm
distant crystal
oh all the end boss loot is like crucible
lusty grotto
wtf
west galleon
blizz: stop using crucible stuff in pvp
blizz also: releases a whole tier of cos gear
lusty grotto
i like it
west galleon
that axe even has a pretty decent mog
covert cypress
Is Ravager the same for Prot too? Im assuming so but jw
oblique garnet
Useless
sick sentinel
🐶 💩
covert cypress
Useless gotcha lol
undone sun
Yup
analog zinc
did I do pretty good on mekka? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/4KQAJr3MYc2gv8Pt
tell me how to improve pls
west galleon
#449510248579858432 is for that (i would help but i wouldn't be much help xd)
sick sentinel
west galleon
grats on killing that dumb bitch gnome whore piece of shit tho
sick sentinel
@west galleon 
west galleon
mekkatorque deserves it
WAIT i was in your guild LOL
damn i keep finding people from my old guilds how many guilds have i really been in 😟
west galleon
nice ^^ good luck with it
steel mauve
people post their logs here a lot really
some times you get better specific advice asking about log reviews here than in a general log channel where all 3 specs frequent
undone sun
I'd bet you would get a better response in the proper spec channel, not a channel that had multiple spec eyes
Said that when the channel was first brought up
sturdy valve
@analog zinc Haven't done much tanking apart from backup tanking from conclave onwards but I think that if you want to go for dps logs, reckless flurry is a great trait to stack, also makes you take devastate (passive devastator) and makes revenge a rage dump when you are offtanking
lusty grotto
i dont think that's the kind of feedback he wanted
ill take a look soon
don't go RF for progression
sturdy valve
Good point, guess mekka is a bit different
lusty grotto
its probably good for mekka too but... if he's progressing
sturdy valve
Depends on how familiar you are with when you will be Mt and for how long??
sick sentinel
Bfi for that fat st tanking
sturdy valve
I mean for me, rf+ devastate felt like a nice defensive advantage with better rage generation (hence more IP and never shitting myself for not enough rage for sb?)
oblique garnet
Better rage gen with devastator🤔
sturdy valve
oblique garnet
^
steel mauve
deva wont gain more rage, especially since you can easily reset SS procs with 2 other abilities
sick sentinel
So devastator is quite literally worse defensively
sturdy valve
Yeah it is, but at least for me it felt like it had more flow on raidbosses, maybe lucky with procs
lusty grotto
yeah that may be the case
sturdy valve
As I said I've only been backup tanking
steel mauve
the thing is though SS procs dont always = deva procs since revenge and TC can proc as well
analog zinc
this guild I'm trialling killed jaina for the first time a week ago
& I'm prolly tanking her, tho I doubt we're gonna get to her tonight
sturdy valve
Wait what server are you??
steel mauve
and ya deva is better on pure 100% single target for dps, but far worse defensively
analog zinc
Stormwall is awful with a ton of trials who've never seen the fight
steel mauve
and the dps for it is helpful for pushing phases that you need to (cutting edge jaina a couple months ago)
sturdy valve
Sorry, was just a personal experience. If I'm forced to tank I tend to go dps build and stress my healers, which seemed to have worked😛
@analog zinc was the one tanking stormwall while the other guy was soaking... There are some windows where you will have to ask for externals (the only advice I can give you)
oblique garnet
Stormwall doesnt do alot of damage to the tank tanking the boss, its just if you dont get dispelled when you start hurting
sturdy valve
@oblique garnet my point exactly, I was trying to keep 5 stacks to drop off on the add
spice ferry
shouldnt need to do that
analog zinc
i'm offtanking Stormwall on my DH
sturdy valve
With enough cleave stacks should not be required for the add
oblique garnet
You dont need to drop the debuff on the adds
sturdy valve
Should be a quick boss for you once people learn the ship mechanics
oblique garnet
At all
covert cypress
What about Rumbling Earth, i find myself needing to used my stun alot in dungeons
warm plinth
Shockwave is already on a pretty short CD for an AoE stun.
covert cypress
Rn im running Menace
warm plinth
Menace is the only one you're probably never going to need to use
spice ferry
best case scenario your fear lasts for maybe 2 gcds
extending something you already cut short is pointless
covert cypress
Damn, someone told me menace was the best🤣
spice ferry
so much misinformation around hey
warm plinth
What bothers me more than anything is people spouting shit like they know it's true when they're clueless.
steel mauve
to be fair stormbolt or rumbling are personal prefernce, i prefer stormbolt for the stun/interrupt but others have felt the need for a shorter aoe stun for trash
steel mauve
no
warm plinth
Nope.
steel mauve
AM is too strong to never take it
spice ferry
yeah that row is definitely up to your own choice. Id say general practice would be to run stormbolt
steel mauve
its what our entire spec is based around, getting your CD's off quicker to use them again
sick sentinel
@covert cypress read icyveins please
spice ferry
wait what
sick sentinel
Wait wtf
exotic spoke
warm plinth
lol...
exotic spoke
Because between the 5 of us
We stll had about 100+ cauldrons from the introduction to the tools of the trade
spice ferry
i guess they're useless next week anyway
lusty grotto
😮
is there a way to reset the silas thing faster
got the stupid health pot thing, i need them procs
covert cypress
@sick sentinel why read icy veins when yall are right here, is this not what this place is for?
lusty grotto
because icy veins has all the info you need
if you have questions about what icy veins says we'd be happy to help
warm plinth
This isn't really a place for you to ask questions because you're too lazy to read. It's here for clarification or advanced knowledge that isn't covered in the guide.
covert cypress
Im not saying icy doesnt, i use icy veins all the time just i was away from the computer and already om discord
lusty grotto
to answer your question.. no i'm not here to answer questions that are adequately explained in the guide that this discord's owner wrote
steel mauve
lusty grotto
to be fair, it happens a lot :p
covert cypress
Im not a new player either but k
lusty grotto
so its not a big deal
spice ferry
your asking us things that are outlined in the guides written by the best people here
read the guides, the come back if you have questions
class discords are not google
most people here have no issue, but if you've answered "hey x or y talent" a hundred times in a week, it gets old
lusty grotto
regardless of what you think, he theorycrafts his ass off and so do the rest of the theorycrafters
warm plinth
Literally the most ungrateful shit I've ever read in here lol.
lusty grotto
eh it could be a guildy trolling
lusty grotto
😂
undone sun
🤐 was about the other part of the topic
lusty grotto
o
fierce juniper
nah not a guildy, just a troll we've banned several times :^)
undone sun
High Rez phone
undone sun
I love 95% of it
steel mauve
i have an s8, need an upgrade and plus i cracked half my screen
undone sun
My only issue is the double infinity sides
undone sun
When typing the infinity sides can be tough
lusty grotto
ah
undone sun
Almost got the newest note
lusty grotto
wait do you accidentally touch them or something?
undone sun
Yeah
lusty grotto
yeah i know what you mean
undone sun
Palms and very bottom of my pointer fingers can touch the sides
Inside knuckle idfk how to describe that part of the hand
undone sun
Yeh
junior ivy
hi
junior ivy
im waiting for note 10
im hoping itll be out by november
i have an s9 right now
but i love notes
lusty grotto
which will have a a similar design with the front cam instead of the ugly as shit notch that the pixel 3 has
junior ivy
i had a note 8., it broke
undone sun
Yeah, note 9 was one of my considerations
undone sun
I have a bit of regret not getting it
lusty grotto
WOW
undone sun
Lol
lusty grotto
youre one of those
warm plinth
Suuuuure you're not
undone sun
mhm
lusty grotto
jk i have a... "friend" that has one, and she showed me
warm plinth
lul
junior ivy
my favourite thing to use s pen for is instantly taking a cropped screenshot
undone sun
ngl thats one of the reasons I didn't get the note
warm plinth
I just don't know why you want a phone that big. And that's coming from someone who likes the larger phones.
undone sun
The pen
junior ivy
i still cant get used to taking screenshots withouyt my poen
pen
and i love big phones
but also im a girl so i have a purse to put i tin..
it in
undone sun
Next phone though, going note
junior ivy
yeh im excited for note 10
im loyal to notes even after dealing with the note 7 during that fiasco
undone sun
Lol
lusty grotto
you
junior ivy
a phone must be pretty good if you stay loyal after that
warm plinth
Need 5750 rep for ZTs...nothing left to do. Fucking RIP
lusty grotto
oh
junior ivy
when i got it, i was blown away, it was perfect in every way
then it got recalled
and they sent me a new version
then the new version got recalled
but i kept using it anyway
undone sun
oof
junior ivy
i used it until the lst possible moment
warm plinth
I've been an LG fan since the G2
lusty grotto
uhh...
junior ivy
they remotely took away my internet, they made it so battery only charged to 15%
then finally i put it to rest
undone sun
My last two were LGs @warm plinth
warm plinth
What'd you have?
fierce juniper
pixel 3 is bis
warm plinth
G6 was my last one. I love LG's phones. But work gave me a shit iPhone 7 plus so I'm using that since it's free
warm plinth
Gave my gf my line; she was paying $118 a month for just her phone lol
junior ivy
thats a lot
fierce juniper
normal pixel 3 doesn't have a notch
junior ivy
and thats coming from a canadian
fierce juniper
XL does
warm plinth
Yeah, Verizon
lusty grotto
ohhhh yeah you're right
undone sun
My g5 was basically dying, its so slow, battery went to shit, gps broke @warm plinth
junior ivy
my issue with pixels, and judge me all you want, theyre ugly
junior ivy
they just dont look.. fancy... and sleek and premium
warm plinth
Yeah though tbh I've never had an android phone that didn't go to shit battery-wise pretty fast.
junior ivy
like a note phone with a curved screen LOOKS amazing
undone sun
My s10+ basically has a notch
warm plinth
That's the only upside about using an iPhone now; this thing never dies
junior ivy
pixels might be good but they dont look like $1000 phones 😦
lusty grotto
hmm the only one that ive had battery issues with was the nexus 6 which was motorola
warm plinth
I don't like Samsungs because of the weird curved edge on the screen.
lusty grotto
rest have been fine
junior ivy
with a case on its not bad
lusty grotto
yeah
undone sun
But at the start it was always pressing buttons I didn't want to
lusty grotto
love minimal bezels
undone sun
Same
warm plinth
I don't like the appearance of Samsung's phones
lusty grotto
s10 looks amazing though
undone sun
Yeah, I definitely need a case
junior ivy
samsung phones look expensive and fancy though lol 😦
warm plinth
I think the curved edge is stupid
junior ivy
thats why i like them
undone sun
:D
warm plinth
That's because they are expensive
junior ivy
they just look sleek and shiny and beautiful
undone sun
Yeah, I got mine cheap though
warm plinth
My LG phones on average were like $300 cheaper than the comparable Samsung
junior ivy
on contract
lusty grotto
i got mine expensive, but financed lol
junior ivy
its often smarter to go contract than to buy it outright
you end up paying less soimetimnes
i did the math
i paid less with a 2 year contract than if i was to buy it
undone sun
Yeah, I'm on contract
warm plinth
I didn't even know we had providers in the states who did contracts anymore.
lusty grotto
i paid the same, but made sure no interest accrued
undone sun
ATT
warm plinth
Thyme said he had one
undone sun
2 year contract
lusty grotto
ya im ATT too but
junior ivy
undone sun
No instant fee, you just pay the monthly
junior ivy
thats a NICE looking phone
undone sun
Indeed
warm plinth
I have T-Mobile. I can upgrade twice a year by exchanging the old phone. Just have to pay the sales tax.
junior ivy
barely any bezels, almsot infinite sized screen
no distractions
just enormous screen
fierce juniper
friends
junior ivy
shiny back
fierce juniper
can we move this to #off-topic pls
junior ivy
note 9 is best phone for prot warriors
warm plinth
Hey Marok
fierce juniper
hi
junior ivy
make thyme yellow
junior ivy
or ill just cry
fierce juniper
hmmm
warm plinth
Idk why, but I just feel like I'd be more inclined to use it
warm plinth
Because I like the people in here, not the spergs in the normal OT channel
junior ivy
off topic is full of other channel people too
lusty grotto
goddang it i got the stupid healing thing again from the tools of the trade thing
warm plinth
No offense to them
undone sun
Is that why you never use guardian @junior ivy 😭
junior ivy
whats guardian lol
warm plinth
D:
junior ivy
oh the discord?
undone sun
Yeh
junior ivy
my druid was only resto lol
but yeah i dont like druid channel
but dont get me started on rogue, that one was the worst
lol
undone sun
😭
warm plinth
But anyway, I'm semi-excited for these new essences. Not super excited for how you have to get some of them (e.g. sphere)
PvP 🤢
junior ivy
the other day i mentioned the warrior discord to my sister
and she was like
"you still go on the warrior discord? youre weird"
since i dont play anymore
undone sun
Lol
lusty grotto
yeah you're weird
undone sun
People call me that as well
lusty grotto
i agree with your sister
junior ivy
i seriously might go back for the summer lol
if my bf doesnt come home soon anyway
im almost finished subnautica too
warm plinth
So I need to come up with a name for my Zanda prot war. I came up with Paloadin for my paladin (best name right?). I can't think of a similarly clever name for a prot war though.
warm plinth
🤦
undone sun
Same
Thyme Rhyme and Dhyme
lusty grotto
lollll
lusty grotto
Dhyme is your druid?
undone sun
Ghashclap sounds dirty ngl
junior ivy
hahah
warm plinth
It would if anyone actually pronounced it the right way
"G-hash" is the most common pronunciation...
Or Gnash
undone sun
Paladin,
Warrior is thyme
Dh is rhyme
I do regret not naming my dh dhyme
lusty grotto
i thought it was Gash
willow scarab
In my head it was always gash
willow scarab
Gash clap is straight up dirty
warm plinth
That's why I like you guys; most of you have brains (except Nim but he's adorable so can't not like him)
lusty grotto
yo, have you heard people pronouncing g'huun
undone sun
Though I was surprised when I found out people still pronounce thyme as Thigh-me
lusty grotto
smh
oblique garnet
Ghastakhan
warm plinth
LOL!
lusty grotto
G'hwonsamdi
warm plinth
That's pretty good
junior ivy
my cotank from my old shitty guild, his toon was named wenpengsucks and he changed it to somehting else YEARS ago
but i still call him wenpengsucks
lusty grotto
poor wen peng
warm plinth
You literally say his full name every time?
junior ivy
if im referring to him
ill say that
apparently wenpeng was his college roommate
lol
warm plinth
Do you refer to me as Ghash120ETD every time? Or do you still call me Worldcrusher
junior ivy
worldcrusher
warm plinth
😂
warm plinth
Nice
lusty grotto
🤔
junior ivy
lost in subnautica not sure where to go next ugh
warm plinth
Nim what dungeon brought you over the line?
oblique garnet
Worldcrusher now thats an edgelord name if i have ever heard one 8)
lusty grotto
lmao
warm plinth
rofl, definitely one of my least inspired names
I still have the warrior Cosmo gave me the name for which actually sounds badass
But I want to do one that's like a zanda pun
exotic spoke
Nim's a big kid now!
warm plinth
👏
lusty grotto
😮
undone sun
👏 🎉
lusty grotto
ty ty
warm plinth
I wonder if Bootsoupclap is taken 🤔
warm plinth
It probably is on the server I'm making it on lol
exotic spoke
👢 🍵 👏
warm plinth
It's 4 letters too long lol
lusty grotto
son of a
warm plinth
That awkward moment when I have the maximum number of toons on my account
exotic spoke
doesn't look like it
warm plinth
willow scarab
I assume io will continue until season 3?
warm plinth
Success
lusty grotto
lmao ghash
warm plinth
Yeah you get crucible of flame for unlocking the heart forge and there's some you get from quests and pvp that you can get iirc
oblique garnet
You can get quite alot of them before the raid
exotic spoke
Lucid Dream
Rage refund
or increased rage gen for the major I believe
Um, why does that suck lol
Um...
AM is a huge thing
warm plinth
🤔 Rage refund ties right into Anger Management
Which means higher Avatar and Demo Shout uptime
exotic spoke
More rage spent and more demo shout / avatar
warm plinth
Okay now you're just trolling
wispy plume
This troll
exotic spoke
Logs
swift flume
Devastator WAS a good talent an expansion ago
exotic spoke
Also, just becasue you're using devastator doesn't mean its the right choice
as a tank
It may increase your dps but it may not be the best talent for tankign
swift flume
Booming is by FAR the best option, especially combined with Anger Management
I'd say with my tank it's about a 60-70% uptime
exotic spoke
in a single target fight it will increase your uptime. But only then
Whats your character name?
swift flume
You don't play Prot warrior to deal damage lmao, sure dealing damage gens Agro but you're much better off having that instant 40 rage to spend on a quick IP or SB then relying on a random 20% chance and taking away a filler that can reset Slam on an increased reset chance
lusty grotto
BV is better defensively, we had this convo like 1 hour ago
RF/Deva is good to get parse rankings
exotic spoke
What is your character name so I can see logs please
lusty grotto
it seriously cant
swift flume
Devastator just takes away so much speed and reactivity and interactive natures from Prot over BV
lusty grotto
deva is great for jaina though, im not gonna lie
exotic spoke
demo shout is pretty much going to be up 100% soon
exotic spoke
I mean - can you show that you've done this please
lusty grotto
its fine though, but deva cannot compete defensivewise
SS resets are unreliable, and AM makes it so you can demo reliably
lusty grotto
yeah that's kind of feelcrafty
exotic spoke
Poor uptime then equates to poor playing
lusty grotto
but hey if you make it work, then sure
exotic spoke
You haven't given us any data
crude summit
BV?
swift flume
But taking away defensive capabilities means you take MORE Damage, and a tank taking damage when they shouldn't need to means the tank is going to get killed
lusty grotto
booming voice
swift flume
BV is one of the best active defensives tanks could ask for because of the rage gen, it's combination with Anger Management, and it just flat out increasing damage you deal to them base
The more Ignore Pains the more punishment you can take, which means the longer you're alive
Ignore pain is literally your only real reactive cooldown that reduces damage
crude summit
yeah im not really sure myself when the best time to use IP is
lusty grotto
you dont ignore pain? then how do you activate AM?
swift flume
and your only spender on Rage aside from Revenge
undone sun
It's really just a rage dump
swift flume
Revenge is SO expensive tho
undone sun
It's absorb could be better but that's the cards delt
swift flume
like why even
lusty grotto
except when you parry and have a free revenge, you don't activate AM
how are you even revenging without free revenges
id like to know
cause honestly that'd be pretty sweet
again if the revenge is free
AM doesn't activate
ah!
swift flume
a good Prot tank has 100% uptime on Ignore Pain and keeps it refreshed while not going over it's cap, having Block up maybe about 50% of the time to reduce it even further while it reduces everything else like Demoshout with Anger Management, with BV giving free Rage to keep IG up at all times
undone sun
It's definity not 100
swift flume
better than your 0% uptime barely using it
Unlike some people I choose not to rely on random proc chances and just overall bad talents, Id rather just get my defensives up and have my rage spenders at the ready
exotic spoke
You know you'd have way more CDs with BV...
lusty grotto
so on a jaina kill i had 23 free revenge procs out of 47 casts of revenge i had
thats half
roughly
so its absolutely not "not free most of the time"
swift flume
oh bother this guys such a troll I swear...no one thinks like this right?
if so then why play a tank spec? if you want the best DPS theres two other specs lmao. DPS is fine and all but Damage doesn't soak the raid mechanic, defensive capabilities do
quasi yacht
Anyone evver thought of using reckless fury + devastator for ST fights to get max dps?
undone sun
Yes old news
quasi yacht
i always use devastator https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/daggerspine/buffs
oblique garnet
Doesnt bring as great results as 3TC 2xBoM and 1 DC does
swift flume
Maybe huh
oblique garnet
Do it post your sim
swift flume
how about post it or you're blowing smoke up your ass
quasi yacht
apparently the reckless fury does sim better but yeah probs not best to give up all defensives for it lol for a little damage
quasi yacht
that sim is no raid buffs or prepots ofc
oblique garnet
Post your sim
quasi yacht
make sure you didnt sim outdoors in zuldazar lulz
undone sun
?
quasi yacht
apparently top parsing warrior uses everchill anchor and RAGE... interesting
quasi yacht
well obviously dude
thats all parsing is 😛
without what? lol
i run blighborne infusion
oblique garnet
Still waiting on your proof
fierce juniper
correct
quasi yacht
you are running your sim with full raid buffs and bloodlust
do it with battleshout lol
fierce juniper
he's banned
quasi yacht
why?
fierce juniper
he's been banned several times before
lusty grotto
because hes a troll
fierce juniper
he just makes new accounts
quasi yacht
hmm doesnt seem like he was doing anything bad there but i understand if he has a past
wish i could have seen his rf sims without the raid buffs
fierce juniper
Nah he wasn't doing anything bannable in this case, but "ban evading" is definitely against the rules
quasi yacht
for sure
lusty grotto
if that's him
quasi yacht
yeah if thats him
pretty nice
anienc tuskarr sea charm tf?
im sure the 420 weapon is nice as well lol
i got all mine w 410
lusty grotto
those parses are good
willow scarab
His build only works under specific circumstances and I don't suggest trying it unless you're already parsing 99s and can understand logs well
Not worth your time
lusty grotto
but again he was claiming deva is better defensively than BV
which is just not true at all
willow scarab
His claims are solely related to getting top 5 parses
lusty grotto
right
willow scarab
And in that instance he is 100% correct
lusty grotto
how many accounts are you gonna make
willow scarab
That I think is wrong but it's just him justifying the build
quasi yacht
yeah hes just talking dps
to do what he does have to have good healers and goot ot
and of course run strats
willow scarab
At the end of the day you can't dispute a 21.9k sim and top 5 all stars position
quasi yacht
like never get thrown on grong etc
willow scarab
The only other person in this discord clsoe to him on all stars is me
lusty grotto
of course not
quasi yacht
yeah
lusty grotto
that's pretty self explanatory
quasi yacht
if u have healers for it in your groups by all means ya know?
lusty grotto
its almost as if i was the one that found out that RF + Deva works
quasi yacht
lot of ppl dont realize the first time your guild downs something you probs shouldnt be shooting for tank damage parses lol
ive always used dev and got shit on by booming voice ppl
i get the booming voice thing but i like dev, i dont like using it in rotation, so perfect solution for my playstile