that's the dream
#protection
willow scarab
exotic spoke
1 TB of SSD storage. Installed like 8-9 games and I’m already thinking of getting another TB
modern brook
and use my old rig as aconsole
exotic spoke
Used up about 350 gigs for just those games and windows
lusty grotto
its too bad i cant run quake 2 rtx re-release 😦
exotic spoke
Do you have another drive?
modern brook
I compress all my files so i can fit my storage on a 128 gig flash drive
willow scarab
none
lusty grotto
wtf bull
exotic spoke
Like - how are you not full?
willow scarab
Imagine having an IT degree and playing wow off a fossil of a computer
All I have is wow, wow related things and chrome
and lol and runelite client
lusty grotto
lmao
lusty grotto
does it have a sweet case
lusty grotto
like those super nintendo mods
modern brook
i got u fam
willow scarab
The same ppl who aint wanna spend $$$ on how they or their house looks but wanna spend the cost of a pair of fake tits on a gaming computer 👀 👀
I'm sure that relates to someone somewhere playing wow right now
lusty grotto
well honestly it depends if you play anything else too
modern brook
🤷 you spend money on whats important to you tbh
willow scarab
Yeah that's true
lusty grotto
but for wow, for sure you don't need much
willow scarab
people enjoy what they wanna enjoy
When i built my computer you needed a machine for wow
because you did the /setconsole pixeldensity 2500000000
and stupid shit like that
was the norm
Everyone was into the /setconsole above ultra graphics
modern brook
pixeldensity 4 is the god teir strat
lusty grotto
i gotta be honest, ive gone through 3 rigs since vanilla and i have never heard of that command
willow scarab
Really?
lusty grotto
cameradistance though
willow scarab
It's a 25 minute video on youtube
shows you how to go above max settings on every single option
idk if they still work
i watched it in 2011
lusty grotto
yeah never heard of it let me look it up
willow scarab
You’ll know you found it when you see him set his aoe so high that his blizzard comes down almost like a cylinder
livid totem
never heard it either >_<
nocturne rapids
would u go for unstable flames, elemental whirl or shimmering haven ? haven right?
lusty grotto
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
that blizzard thing
rings a bell definitely
im partial to flames
haven you move too much depending on content to take advantage of it
modern brook
@nocturne rapids i personally would go unstable flames
EWHirl is also passable
Haven can go hang a salami
lusty grotto
I'd say haven could have its uses but you would have to know if you're in fights where you don't move at all
Or very little
modern brook
My entire reasoning is defensives = generally not worth it
on proc defensives = generally a total waste
same reason we dont go AV anymore
on proc defensives w/ movement restrictions = are you getting any value from this?
exotic spoke
Whirl isn’t bad for offensive either
exotic spoke
Mo stats is mo better
modern brook
I say UF > whirl just cause of consistency
sand egret
positional effects reward more cognitive play generally, more of a stricter requirements vs higher payoff. Sliver is just the case of min/max logic going from optimal to toxic =/
lusty grotto
I suppose so
sand egret
I don't prefer em, but that's the reasoning
sand egret
it also, even baseline, adds variety
lusty grotto
They go against encounter design though
sand egret
which isn't bad
modern brook
But you cant have that and also have all the mechanics be movement centric
sand egret
they don't all have to be good
sand egret
yeah, it definitely conflicts in a lot of encounters
modern brook
but on proc circles are dumb
willow scarab
I found a reupload of the video @lusty grotto
sand egret
imho they should have more weight on the power for the cost
willow scarab
lusty grotto
Oh yeah I def have seen this, never tried it but def seen it
sand egret
the particle density one is hilarious
lusty grotto
Are you still using those settings?
willow scarab
I set literally everything as high as I could without being unplayable
No my fossil is long decayed since then
I play a little below medium now
sand egret
cuz that's like what every VFX designer does on their first day on the job
"ooo lets see how high I can put this...."
Calls IT
"Hey....my computer melted"
lusty grotto
Haha
sand egret
some dumbass decided to make a particle system once that scaled quadratically due to them forgetting to remove the check to spawn based on other particles
needless to say, that rig was not happy
sand egret
in this instance?
willow scarab
yeah
sand egret
couldn't get into the comp, the entire cpu locked up
GPU basically had a heart attack trying to render everything
modern brook
THis is why robots are my favorite tbh
sand egret
and the cpu basically seized trying to call everything
modern brook
"yeah hi I want 5.67x10^67 icicles to fall here"
sand egret
it was pretty funny.
lusty grotto
oh haha that blizzard man
modern brook
gpu sweats "ok boss"
lusty grotto
yeah i think i saw this before
sand egret
give people the tools, and they will melt their rigs 😃
but also lowkey shoutout to /cameradistance
lusty grotto
opens 258 chrome tabs
sand egret
bumping that up was like the best thing I've done
sand egret
pulling in FH is like playing an RTS
lusty grotto
hmmm i wonder if i did that
lusty grotto
gonna have to re-check
ya they kinda "removed" or capped it in legion
then they increased it
sand egret
well, I guess whatever the cap is
willow scarab
I've only been back on the game for 6 months after 4 years off
so that's all news to me
I'm pretty sure it's 1.6 now
sand egret
either way, boosting that shit is the move
lusty grotto
i gotta check if mine is maxed then
livid totem
No, playing like minimum setting a la quake 3 arena IS the move :p
lusty grotto
it definitely is on the UI slider, but you know that goes up to so far
sand egret
that's FPS Freehold runs
willow scarab
Fuck
I regret trying to find the solution for you
I found and then tested /console cameraDistanceMaxZoomFactor 2.5
and i'm zoomed in + locked now
sand egret
LOL
lusty grotto
hmm
willow scarab
Thread says /console cameraDistanceMaxZoomFactor 2.6 gives you slightly more distance
lusty grotto
btw theres this addon that i installed a while back
called AdvancedInterfaceOptions
im at 2.6
so maybe that's as far as it goes?
sick sentinel
I'm at 2.3
oblique garnet
🤔
exotic spoke
hollow pilot
Pick 2 rings - 1: 408stam+307crit+170vers - 2: 348sta+206crit+244haste+77avoidance - 3: 367sta+280haste+178mastery
exotic spoke
Are they all the same Ilvl lacto?
lusty grotto
clearly they are not
hollow pilot
410, 395, 400
exotic spoke
Because signs point to no. First and third
Go highest Ilvl in most cases and you’re correct
Sockets come up, primarily on rings / bracers / cloaks.
But if no sockets take whatever is your highest Ilvl.
More stats > less better? stats
hollow pilot
was just wonderign because of the avoidance on the one
lusty grotto
tertiaries aren't worth ilvls
hollow pilot
ok
exotic spoke
I’d argue indestructible on shield (joking.... joking. But swear to god it’s amazing)
undone sun
🤦
hollow pilot
well I had a derp run yesterday where my shield broke in the middle of a dungeon (basement waycres manor, that was fun)
modern brook
didnt they change the avoidnace mechanics?
exotic spoke
Yup, our shields get destroyed in m+
i repair before every one even if I don’t die. Carry hammers around to repair too - and the blacksmithing hammer free repair per hour
I don’t know bull. Doesn’t it just reduce damage you take from aoe attacks?
echo steppe
Would it be smart to use rastakhan trinket for raid, since I'm still a bit undergeared for mythic (408).
modern brook
🤷 look at me being wrong
exotic spoke
No
@echo steppe I would damn near never use that trinket
408 isn’t under geared for mythic either. That’s an appropriate time to start going into it: mythic drops 415. Are you only going to go in when you’re 415+?
umbral forge
God I miss being Alliance
echo steppe
I'm undergeared as in this char was leveled a week ago and I don't have good traits even.
exotic spoke
DiD is king Jettom. Well that soacegoat and nelf
echo steppe
And those are the options for the trinket.
umbral forge
To quote Saurfang, it looks nice, but it's wrong.
exotic spoke
Fuck bwomsamdis trinket.
oblique comet
curious question . how much haste % is considered ok
umbral forge
I've been Alliance all my life except 3 months of MoP and now.
I feel like I'm wrong
oblique comet
ok so there is no % to aim for then
undone sun
nope
exotic spoke
Shinjiroo just don’t sacrifice Ilvl for it
exotic spoke
Take the haste gloves
Rule of thumb is to take the highest Ilvl. If equal Ilvl take whatever gives more haste
oblique comet
ok
exotic spoke
Also frement - at 408 you may not have optimal gear but by no means are you under geared.
oblique comet
😃
umbral forge
Gear ilvl reset comes with m+ changes though
unless they don't bump up m+ until raid comes out
exotic spoke
They tend to not bump it up until raid is available
But yeah - I went into mythic at 402 when we started it in February
stiff drum
Hey guys, how do you decide on which rings to wear?
umbral forge
ilvl and socket
exotic spoke
Highest Ilvl. If you have a socket add like 10 ilvls too it
willow scarab
It’s on wowhead that m+ rewards are bumped up with raid
exotic spoke
More stats > fewer better stats
willow scarab
Maybe that’s just the 430 item though
exotic spoke
All of our stats are really close
stiff drum
for example loop of pulsing vein vs Jade Ophidian Band with socket
both 400
or then a 410 crit mastery ring
willow scarab
I don’t know what the second ring is but pulsing vein is good
exotic spoke
410 and then whichever 400 gives more haste
stiff drum
second ring for now is Seal of Regal Loa with socket
exotic spoke
Oh sorry
willow scarab
You’re saying words not stats
exotic spoke
410 crit mastery and jade band with socket
exotic spoke
The 410 ring and the 400 ring with socket
stiff drum
not the pulsing vein anymore then? (haste mastery)
exotic spoke
More stats are better than fewer better stats
stiff drum
alright
exotic spoke
All of our stats are very good and close to one another
stiff drum
yea, im rather new to prot warrior. so it's hard for me to know which one is better
how much ilvl is a socket comparable to ?
also in a shield for example
exotic spoke
Shield is “always - without exception - take the highest Ilvl
@sick sentinel has a write up.
Sockets are about 5 in most gear. 10 in rings / bracers. 0 in weapons / shields if I remember correctly
exotic spoke
It’s the best guide line for new players. They can tweak it after they get comfortable imo
Ideally I need more haste. But I can’t get shit to drop worth a damn
livid totem
I tend to sacrifice a little for the ring aswell. I like to have big haste stats
strong forum
That being said, my jew crit+haste+s and my 420 freehold+avoidance ring are coincidentally my highest ilvl rings
strong forum
Obv depends but generally you lose like 200-300 haste if you don't have a haste ring
So thats a big yikes in my book
exotic spoke
It’s hard for me to use a ring 10+ ilvls lower than what I have.
strong forum
My rings alone are 700 haste, so even a 425+socket non haste ring I wouldn't use
Not that I'd ever get a 425 on my warri...
exotic spoke
One is a 420 haste vers for me. The other is 420 crit (353 crit) mastery
I’ve received one 425. Our bdk is Ilvl 420 equipped
Like holy shit he gets so lucky
strong forum
our healing officer rsham is 422
exotic spoke
With 6 425s
modern brook
willow scarab
most of my guild is 416-419 and that's just raid + luck because no keys
modern brook
all my upgrades are sockets
or from chest
arguably better
but socket != bigger ilvl
😠
exotic spoke
I do about 6+ m19 keys and usually 5 or so at 14-15 to help guildees
strong forum
i do my weekly nowadays and thats it
exotic spoke
and diamond / shields are a myth
modern brook
I did actually
exotic spoke
No. But our ele shaman got a 420s. Our hpals did.
modern brook
and a 410 weapon 2 weeks later
exotic spoke
It took me fucking 8 weeks to get a 415
modern brook
but the keys dont wf 😠
exotic spoke
And that’s with stacking the group with every shield wearer I could
Want to know the worst part?
The ele shaman literally just came back. Didn’t have a one hander.
First week (like week 5 of me going for it) gets a 420 that he can’t fucking use
willow scarab
Personal loot is cool
I'd rather group loot because at least I could see 3x balefire branches drop when nobody needs one
exotic spoke
It’s Ebola.
Way to punish people for the perceived issues
willow scarab
So I know the good shit exists
exotic spoke
In uldir I had a very low chance of ever getting a shield - only two other shield users. Where as given how many leather we had they were tossing gear around like candy
willow scarab
I don't have a RAGE because there is only one other eligable target for it in guild
and they're holy so they couldn't even trade it 😃
strong forum
now thats unlucky
exotic spoke
I mean - they just needed an equal or higher Ilvl trinket. If they had one equal or higher Ilvl
A glimmer paladin got a 420 socketed sliver last night.
Couldn’t trade I
It
tawny plover
FML got the same boots 2 weeks in a row 
exotic spoke
Personal loot is complete garbage in guild runs. Has no place in the game
tawny plover
weekly chest tho <.
exotic spoke
I know, was continue the rant right before you posted that
That’s just rng /shrug
It sucks, don’t get me wrong, but what can you do
steel mauve
Wish they would have kept the option of guild loot, it was a nice compromise imo
undone sun
@final mist
oblique garnet
unlucky mods are sleeping
primal sable
Mods
🦀🦀🦀🦀
Are gone!
stark sage
🦀 🦀 🦀
oblique garnet
exotic spoke
Riot! Mods asleep?
undone sun
😴
exotic spoke
That sounds like a good riot. a nap sounds like a good idea
oblique garnet
Should i run lurkers for parses or nah 🤔
soft kindle
oblique garnet
yeah but i already get barely any healer attention if i do that im most likely going to die
exotic spoke
Run idol and kill your friends
oblique garnet
in what fight is there actually enough damage to kill my friends?
exotic spoke
Have you met our lord and savior n’zoth? He thinks you’re special
exotic spoke
I mean depends on how good your healers are at pumping hps (and covering fuck ups)/ players are at not fucking up / what content you’re doing
Part of me wants to do it on things like rastakhan
oblique garnet
yeah true
exotic spoke
But I don’t have friends to kill 😦
oblique garnet
it only does 10k
exotic spoke
High m+ keys?
willow scarab
Use it on uu'nat after void stone phase if anyone is extra low
oblique garnet
maybe on bursting you can actually kill friends
exotic spoke
I mean - you have to be willing to sacrifice your self for the cause
Dedication is key
And if that doesn’t work then “No balls”
oblique garnet
Well i do have temple where i could try that
exotic spoke
It’s an easy week for temple too.
Missed a two chest by a about 45 seconds on a 19 :(. Got a 20 though and that was nice
willow scarab
You don't have to soak?
We just smacked around our keyboards and timed a 21 easy today
Definitely a 23/24 week if you still care about io
exotic spoke
I haven’t had to soak in ages.
lusty grotto
i hate my job for not having a goddamn dba
dense flame
At least we will have something to work on again: essence ranks, heart grind
New dungeon
lusty grotto
im excited about mechagon for sure
dense flame
But hoping beguiling turns out to be fun
willow scarab
The most exciting thing is the raid
M+ and shit is external fun
raid is the core
dense flame
Yeah
lusty grotto
essences kinda do look exciting for builds
hopefully we will have some variety
cookie cutters have their benefits but damn
they get boring
willow scarab
I expect at the very least for there to be buffs/nerfs so that it's not the same 3 essences for an entire patch
last mason
Did you guys see the guy on r/wow claiming that he had empirical evidence that never surrender and heavy repercussions were not only good, but higher skill cap than the normal two
lusty grotto
yeah that'd be sweet
sick sentinel
LMAO
lusty grotto
it's reddit
last mason
For tanking Tuesday
exotic spoke
Yes sleepy
willow scarab
I can see the higher skill cap point
lusty grotto
did he put the so called empirical evidence in it?
exotic spoke
I dealt with him... and he insulted me even though he probably never saw my logs and said he did
willow scarab
You gotta take an unmitigated hit to drop to 20% hp to use an IP for efficient NS
last mason
His empirical evidence was his 6/9 experience clearing with those talents
exotic spoke
didn’t provide any information “just that I’m not as good as the Koreans thatdo it and theyNEVER die”
last mason
“Empirical”
lusty grotto
but in true reddit fashion i suppose
exotic spoke
Actually sleepy, I claimed I was 6/9 and said those aren’t good
He said he was clearing Jaina with them
willow scarab
Aren't you 9/9?
steep lily
Yeah, just gotta take 3x TC so your healers cant top you off at low hp and never surrender, like a boss
lusty grotto
lmao
lusty grotto
👌
last mason
You could clear with like ravager and dragon roar
Doesn’t mean they’re better
He didn’t get that
exotic spoke
Just cause you can do it doesn’t mean you should do it
last mason
Yea
willow scarab
Yeah but what if I did
and started to convince people
and suddenly people started doing it
lusty grotto
you mean like siphoning?
exotic spoke
Said my logs where trash. Lied and said I used NS for some kills.
willow scarab
exactly
last mason
That ruckin rad m+ dude on twitch was telling people to go siphoning
Couldn’t tell if he was memeing at the time
lusty grotto
plenty of them do
last mason
It sounded like bs
last mason
Yea I guess
exotic spoke
Said haste vers mastery crit is stay order until vers is 5-10%
Stalwart nav if you’re having problems surviving
Stack mastery with 3 BOM
lusty grotto
leech may gain some value as ilvl scales
undone sun
ehhhh
steep lily
Had a guildy bring his prot warr to our mythic alt raid this week. He was specced into indom, devastate, and dragon roar. Claimed he was using it for doing content outside of raid
lusty grotto
not saying it will be significant thyme
undone sun
0 to 0.1
lusty grotto
lol
willow scarab
beautiful
exotic spoke
“My parses and raw numbers are terrible” I honestly don’t know what they were until I checked. Most of the ones where I’m not doing shit things are like 60s -80s that’s not bad
Could be better - but I never claimed to be the best
lusty grotto
but parses are for dmg, because surv percentages don't mean a lot
last mason
Tank parses omegalul
lusty grotto
so i dont know what that has to do with NS
sand egret
I'm 99 for survival on all Mythic BoD. I've never died. 🙃
exotic spoke
If you have SB uptime gaps you’re wrong and playing badly.
Next post “you can get 85-95% up time”
Hrmmm sounds like you’ll have gaps lol
exotic spoke
It entertained me
And in raids you don’t have to hit 100%
Since tank swaps and all. But still you’ll have a little down time at time
last mason
I mean you don’t even really have to have it up all the time
exotic spoke
Truth
last mason
If you need to bank charges and you’re taking trivial dmg then just ip
At least that’s what I do sometimes
Who’s to say
Like this ain’t KJ feel claws
exotic spoke
But yeah - it was great. Attacked me but never posted proof of his claims
lusty grotto
i suppose you got downvoted to hell?
lusty grotto
interesting
exotic spoke
Not that it matters.
exotic spoke
Was actually the most responses / questions on the prot section in several weeks
lusty grotto
this is what i dont enjoy about reddit, it used to be a place to have a good discussion about stuff
but now people get extremely salty and emotional about their points being refuted
last mason
Most people in r/wow blow also
lusty grotto
don't get me wrong you still can find some good discussion
last mason
Except the people who run the weekly role threads
exotic spoke
Some subreddits are terrible.
I can’t go to the hearthstone unless there’s a release. Wow is pretty bad too
last mason
And the people in comp wow are good but also elitist douches
So it’s pick your poison
exotic spoke
I only started doing the tank one for prot cause no one else was doing it.
Honestly was considering stopping u til I saw that yesterday
mortal brook
Lotta muck in reddit to go through. Half of it is art, a quarter is whining, 5 percent is threads about shaman tanks....
last mason
You’re forgetting the weekly repost karma whoring posts
lusty grotto
i just stick to r/truepolitics, r/truegaming nowadays and any meme/mildlyinteresting/sweatypalms subs
exotic spoke
“Oh my god why are servers down all day”
mortal brook
All the edgy meme formats that ppl take to every single subreddit karma whore...
exotic spoke
I think a good portion of the shit posts / bitch posts are by people who don’t play anymore but are salty still
last mason
I’ve been considering maybe posting in the fury/prot/outlaw/sub Threads, but there are people with better credentials than me
lusty grotto
of course Riki
last mason
Even though I’m pretty confident in my knowledge
lusty grotto
that 100% happens in game subs
exotic spoke
Games significantly better than launch of bfa. Good or not is another discussion
Then post sleepy
mortal brook
I dont see the funny of this me and the boys thing thats everywhere. Im out of touch
lusty grotto
yeah that one is
bad
"me and the boys..." who gives a shit
but the "awww shit here we go again" one
👌
mortal brook
Its incredible when like, a world event happens and every shittier karma whore gives a minimal effort to tie it to as many subreddits as they can
exotic spoke
Truth. Just don’t care about karma and problem solved.
I made one meme like 5 years ago and it was funny - but that’s it
Not on r/wow just in general
mortal brook
Ive had a couple decent posts. Half are about the tranmog the other half are about wpvp salt farming:D
digital lark
Hello, for damage m+ bastion of might or a treacherous better?
lime mantle
Might
exotic spoke
Might and it’s also very defensive too
dense salmon
Mates i need a voidstone weakaura mine isnt working ?
looking in pins
but dont think there is one
just want to see when its on cd
dont need the amount
modern brook
@last mason anyone with credentials worth caring about is not posting in reddit threada
exotic spoke
^^
undone sun
i did in legion for a brief point, man was that a dreadful time
shut summit
🙅
modern brook
👋 @shut summit
stark fox
On grong when you get thrown can you charge before you get stunned and knocked down?
trail whale
no
signal plover
You can intervene but u will still get stunned on landing
exotic spoke
And you don’t want to do that ever
Because then the person you charged away from will get fucked by fear
final mist
You can do it with certain classes if you’re both prepared, ex. Warlocks with their teleport, DHs with their charges, etc.
Just can’t do it with unprepared runners and without being on the same page.
exotic spoke
I’ll add the caveat in Of “it’s safer to just land and run back together”
final mist
Of course.
exotic spoke
Because whatbif your other tank is thrown and he can’t charge in
lusty grotto
ya and we're warriors, so mobility is not an issue :p
just have a heals stand next to the other tank if you're worried about the horror/fear
inland mesa
when is Q&A tomorrow since probably 8.2 drop date announcement
exotic spoke
I suspect two weeks from yesterday is 8.2
inland mesa
I can't find a time to watch the Q&A though D:
exotic spoke
No clue. I’ll get the cliff notes afterwards
sick sentinel
just check wowhead afterwards rather then watch 2 hours of 2 dudes talking to each other
analog swift
i'd be supprised if it's two weeks
they said there's two weeks of offseason between 2 and 3
exotic spoke
That’s when patch would hitband then likely 2 weeks prior to next season
inland mesa
I'm hoping not earlier than 16th, so raid starts end of july, but i'm scared for 2nd/9th dates
exotic spoke
Is my prediction
inland mesa
july is just the worst month for me with orientation
exotic spoke
If my guess is correct it would put heroic or mythic on July 9th
inland mesa
the raids? no way
inland mesa
they usually give at least two full weeks for season end, and then 2 week gap
so I would assume them waiting until thursday at earliest heroic is 16th
exotic spoke
Season end was announced yesterday. 2 weeks for that puts patch on July 2nd. So maybe 16th raid and 23rd mythic or 9th And 16th. People bitching about content
inland mesa
I'd love heroic 30th, mythic 6th but I doubt I'm that lucky
inland mesa
I have too much stuff to do and they're asking me to raid lead, and there's like no guides or anything out yet
signal plover
Guides for BoD weren't complete til like a week (some were scarce/beta only vids) before raid release.
fresh valley
i want new content
but i also want
CE
finally approaching 300 pulls on jaina and folks steady gettin ice blocked on 1.5. so frustrating
fresh valley
yeah
timber nest
you wanna make them feel stupid?
tell them the circles go to the same spots every single pull
inland mesa
you probably have a month of time at minimum to get CE on jaina
fresh valley
oh it's been discussed
as we like to say in engineering.... we can't fix stupid, but we can fix what stupid does
fresh valley
we can usually consistently make it to the second barrel
but we don't have the whole raid
and if we don't call a wipe just to keep working on the p2 timings we'll make it to the third barrel
timber nest
just slow the fight down, if your intrerrupting jaina before 12 stacks of the debuff before 1st barrel you can literally sloooow way down in the transition
play it safe and focus on avoiding ice circles
and dont try to rush a tornado
youll usually fuck yourself
fresh valley
its always on the left side, i'm the right and we literally went 22 straight pulls without a block
granted right side is much easier
timber nest
i guarantee that the left side is trying to rush the tornados
mortal brook
basic character movement eludes many
fresh valley
i wish we'd send our rogues out ahead to interupt images faster
timber nest
and they pigeon themselves in the corner
fresh valley
yeah that's what it sounds like happens
they're like "we'll have 2 weeks with new essences!"
and it's like, that aint gonna fix you getting frozen...
signal plover
We're doing reclear now and ppl still get frozen in 1.5 intermission
It's to the point where my BW notification for someone getting frozen just says "idiot"
And yeah I guarantee that on the left side it's them rushing tornado timing.
Ppl (usually healers cuz high raid dmg) also tunnel super hard right as Jaina gets interrupted and they have to Sprint in to bait.
U can at least take solace in the fact that P3 is a total joke now.
distant crystal
rogues can sprint past and cloak to interrupt and also intercept some of the shards
it helps a ton if you're having iceblock issues on transition
and is it just me or does the first bait never work
it always shoots out to africa anyway, might as well take your time
oblique garnet
@sick sentinel I figured out a way to use lurkers, i go siphoning and full leech gear !
sick sentinel
oh no
undone sun
hmmmmmmmmmm
mortal brook
🗞
oblique garnet
That actually would solve the issue i currently have with the trinket where i dont get that much healing to actually feel safe using it
sick sentinel
with lurkers i have like %100 mastery 😄
but i need a cancel macro after 20 stacks cause no avatar and deals good damage after 20 stacks
oblique garnet
you probably have the same issue as i do
as in where the healer doesnt actually pay attention to you
sick sentinel
yep well trinket is like you take no damage into %30 damage insta
so it scales up quite fast my healer generaly hots me and go cat form in most of the pulls
i killed myself once using the trinket on a high key never equiped it again
distant crystal
i'm kinda curious how many mobs hitting how hard would make the extra critblock outweigh the dmg taken
also the fatter IPs
sick sentinel
for first 20 stacks damage taken seems really minimal after that you feel the damage
oblique garnet
yeah because while you have the avatar + trinket combo up youre practically unkillable which atleast causes my healers to forget that i exist and they dont reapply hots or anything
the trinket itself doesnt do that much damage
sick sentinel
yeah
oblique garnet
only 170k
sick sentinel
after avatar is down you kinda feel the damage but i got rezan 410 with a socket last week so
i dont think i will use the trinket
@oblique garnet today we got 25 TD it would be our first 25 key and we couldnt time it cause add bugged out
we did deathrun people who release died insta
cause bugs
oblique garnet
yup
Atleast you didnt have one of those oh mob is meleeing you from downstairs cuz reasons
sick sentinel
yeah TD is full of bugs last week we pulled the last boss during 2nd boss
oblique garnet
i hate td becaues its so buggy
sick sentinel
i still dont know how
oblique garnet
Probably like earthquake frozen orb or smth glitching
sick sentinel
yeah we got stunned during the boss
weird but you know WoW being WoW
bfa is a bugged mess
distant crystal
tanking keys on a bear in legion
with the two legendaries + balance affinity
swiping through the ceiling lel
mortal brook
thrash procs had no vertical limit. would pull dragons in HoV
and just rediculous mobs through walls and floors in Kara
sand egret
yeah, basically the same reason fighting underwater is the way it is
if floors aren't correctly implemented with the right collision mesh etc., you get that nonsense
TD is infamous because there's a massive open area in the middle of the place
sand egret
Kara had weird ass floor geo as well (like that stairwell with the ghosts)
where ya couldn't leap onto parts of it, mostly because that floor was "faked"
WoW's engine is super old so they really have a hard time accounting for stuff on the Z. That's why flying was such a big deal for them initially
and why it "bugs" out sometimes where you're swimming in the air, it's all the same.
mint adder
pog
lusty grotto
🙃
inland mesa
Dayum
lusty grotto
wish it was crit
also not 2 min cd
also no DoT with it
also called Knot
:p
🙃
mortal brook
so many ppl INTing with that trinket. our guild has like 8 of the fuckers. rogues proccing cheat death with it >.<
undone sun
Just as intended
mortal brook
2 million healing raidwide each use >.>
dense flame
Hahaha you just can’t use it if huge damage source incoming
undone sun
Rogues don't care
mortal brook
we have fuckers not turning it off to run Giga >.>
mortal brook
dumb?
dense flame
Yes
mortal brook
yes
distant crystal
i dueled our prot pally and he died after he lost because of it 👌
lusty grotto
lmao
mortal brook
lol
harsh fiber
What options do we have to mitigate damage on the shadow of zul in KR? Just rotating Cds and ignore pains or am i missing something?
distant crystal
rotate cds, ignore pain, run out of range
harsh fiber
SR being spell reflect?
lusty grotto
yes
distant crystal
yeah, it doesn't reflect but it reduces for the duration
distant crystal
darkness is pretty nice
lusty grotto
just spam IP, rotate between Demo, SR, Wall, Externals
distant crystal
and blur taunt
lusty grotto
yah
distant crystal
when you run out of cds though, ain't no shame in running away
pretty much required on very high fort keys
harsh fiber
does he leash at all or can i just run to my hearts content?
lusty grotto
he doesnt leash
distant crystal
he'll follow you, but know that you can't LoS it
lusty grotto
you can kite it to 3rd boss room
lusty grotto
yup
you can't LoS
just hold lust for it imo
:p
(:
last boss easy as hell anyway
distant crystal
yeah on fort it's way harder than the boss
though i think a mistweaver can probably just outheal it
exotic spoke
Fuck KR on high fortified
exotic spoke
Is that a sexual innuendo there kaege?
sick sentinel
no
exotic spoke
Ok good cause I had no clue where you were going ifit was
lusty copper
Question: i was tanking Grong for my guild in BoD last night. All the guides say we can intercept back to the second tank as soon as we are thrown, however I seemed to have been stunned from the time I was picked up to shorly after I landed. Is this strategy no longer useable?
sick sentinel
you get thrown
you get stunned
then you intercept
you ** CAN ** do it before you land
modern brook
but thats bad
sick sentinel
and get stunned next to the other tank
but that's really bad and if you do it you are fucking your raid
modern brook
More accurately; it solves a problem that is easily solved in otherways
modern brook
ie: your tank being alone for immediate roars
sick sentinel
I got a 415 knot and I do not like it
lusty grotto
rip
sick sentinel
it doesn't like up with avatar
lusty grotto
but would you use lurker's over it
modern brook
knothing lines up
lusty grotto
ya
lusty grotto
that much is clear
modern brook
more importantly i know u have crunchy roll login give me ur account info
sick sentinel
I am tired
modern brook
😠
lusty grotto
sirs please no weebo stuff
sick sentinel
for 6 months
modern brook
😠
modern brook
how am i supposed to catch up on my hero academia
sick sentinel
anime is trash
modern brook
watch adds?
lusty grotto
complains about weebs while SRing for shiny pokemon
sick sentinel
(I am watching anime rn btw)
modern brook
(I want to be)
sick sentinel
(9anime(.)ru btw)
lusty grotto
PIRATES
lusty grotto
i hope youre not sleeping
modern brook
not tryna get that funimation ad rev up u kno?
lusty grotto
not that i know anything about it cause i detest anime
sick sentinel
nim
lusty grotto
not that i have a one piece mousemat as a birthday present from my retarded brother
sick sentinel
I have many friends
that do not watch anime
they detest anime
but I made them watch one punch man (first season only)
they still detest anime
except that one
chilly brook
You’re filthy
sick sentinel
filthy ,filthyyyyyyyyyy
lusty grotto
hahah
sick sentinel
yes marok
fierce juniper
:)
sick sentinel
we all agree
chilly brook
I don’t know how to do it in a manner that isn’t a pain in the ass
lusty grotto
lord merek doing odyn's work
chilly brook
You know what’s not a mistake though?
lusty grotto
hmm this is a k68, i can probably dip it on a bucket
chilly brook
Waifus
lusty grotto
shit is supposed to be spill proof
sick sentinel
griff\
chilly brook
I mean honestly you can just take the keycaps off and drop them in a bucket and let them soak for a bit
sick sentinel
are you gonna solve the issue that mich has?
lusty grotto
im too lazy
chilly brook
Problem is I just don’t wanna go through it and take them all off them put them back on properly
Wdym?
sick sentinel
hint it's an issue with his brain kapp
lusty grotto
😮
lusty grotto
WHOA
sick sentinel
(he answered you in fury btw)
chilly brook
Can’t be asked tbh
lusty grotto
jesus christ
umbral forge
then play whatever except Pandaren
lusty grotto
i knew we would summon jettom
exotic spoke
Why are you proposing such heresy Jettom
#LastStandWithVic right @sand egret
Nim what is nimchy doing tonight?
chilly brook
I’m not mongo enough to stay in there
sick sentinel
it was enough
umbral forge
@dense cradle seriously
Shokugeki pfp ok acceptable
Nightborne Male Animations are so good for warriors, people often overlook them
lusty grotto
nimchy is not doing anything atm
warm plinth
Why do you say "animations" plural? Aren't all animations identical except Devastate?
dense cradle
nightborne male is like
umbral forge
No
dense cradle
male nelf's challenged cousin
dense cradle
which is bad itself
lusty grotto
why havent we banned Jettom yet
umbral forge
but nothing else on horde is remotely playable
warm plinth
Yeah but like...who cares about that XD
lusty grotto
im not even gonna bite
exotic spoke
Goblin
umbral forge
Zandalari Troll?
Yeah if they were good warriors maybe Rastakhan would still be alive
lusty grotto
youre just jelly
chilly brook
Oof
umbral forge
goblin is good esp. With their rework
dense cradle
i play fem belf
warm plinth
Do people actually choose based on animation though, legit? Because like...I don't even notice what my character is doing half the time. I could see picking based on how they look stationary but I'm not watching my toon when I'm fighting.
umbral forge
that's fair, I hate their animations but it's fair, my death knight and hunter are female belf.
exotic spoke
Fucking rocket jump on female goblin
warm plinth
And by half the time, I mean ever
chilly brook
I can’t play night elf because their animations bother me too much
From casting to melee
exotic spoke
I didn’t pick male human because they looked terrible originally
warm plinth
I can't play them because they look stupid as fuck
sick sentinel
@warm plinth zandalari animations were a big reason why I went zandalari
warm plinth
Really? Huh.
chilly brook
Same with dwarf tbh
exotic spoke
Nim - if I invite you to an extend heroic bod would you want to come? It could be a shit show
chilly brook
I actually love the race but their animations kill it for me
lusty grotto
on nimchy?
warm plinth
Dwarf is second only to Kul Tiran
lusty grotto
what time
warm plinth
How dare you
chilly brook
Dude that back spin you do on Devastate is retarded
exotic spoke
You’re 400+ right?
lusty grotto
ya
warm plinth
You can hardly even see it. I had to go and whack a training dummy like 20 times to even see the backspin
And that was me looking for it
chilly brook
I mean I notice my characters animations the whole time
warm plinth
That's...weird to me. I mean, I understand choosing based on that if it stands out for you, for sure. I just don't notice it.
warm plinth
Yeah I only have like half of WCM to watch now D:
sick sentinel
I will record tomorrow I guess
warm plinth
I like that you don't play music in your recordings too btw, keep that shit up
chilly brook
Wut you don’t listen to music when doing keys?
warm plinth
Nothing against the music that Late listens to but it bugs me when the video goes silent for 2-3 minutes at a time.
sick sentinel
because I wanted to listen to music
warm plinth
No, I can't listen to music; it's distracting
You can listen to music and record at the same time. Just make OBS only record your game audio, not the music player
I'm sure that's a thing (maybe)?
chilly brook
Oof obs
lusty grotto
its difficult to do ghash
its possible
but very tedious
i had to use a virtual splitter
im not gonna set up that shit again
warm plinth
Oh. I thought if you set your source to the game window, it would only record shit from the game I guess. Since I don't listen to music while playing, I never noticed either way
exotic spoke
What would you recommend griff? I just started last night so we have a tank / ranged dps / healer perspective streaming for guild raids
lusty grotto
i def always listen to music while playing WoW
exotic spoke
^^
warm plinth
Also I thought pretty much everyone used OBS (StreamLabs)
exotic spoke
Sometimes I make the raid listen to music / mute music not
Bot*
It’s what I downloaded mid raid. Took 10 minutes from start to finish
warm plinth
I know Xsplit is a thing too but I found it too annoying to set up. OBS is a lot more user friendly
But I'm also not smart in the area of media lol
exotic spoke
I honestly thought it would be harder to set up than it was
I don’t know why, but I did
warm plinth
Yeah it’s pretty simple.
chilly brook
@exotic spoke for recording I just use shadowplay
Especially since it gives you the option to save a bunch of stuff that just happened through replay. Aka you can press a keybind and it’ll save everything that happened in the last 5 minutes so you don’t have to keep recording a whole match if you’re just looking for highlights etc.
Like for example I have it set to 3 minutes and if something cool happens I can just hit the keybind and that entire round in siege is saved
dusky mica
that part of it is good yes, basically like the shit on consoles
chilly brook
It’s also super low on resource usage
dusky mica
OBS is better for long sessions and streaming imo
it uses the nvidia api so its no more or less demanding
chilly brook
I mean that’s what obs is designed for though
Streaming
Shadowplay seems very much designed for recording first and streaming second
If I’m gonna stream I’ll use streamlabs OBS
grand spruce
whats better, a haste/verse hand with a socket at 410 or a crit haste hand at 415?
sick sentinel
410+s
grand spruce
thank you
sick sentinel
@grand spruce check dms
warm plinth
@chilly brook Maybe I'm using it differently but shadowplay seems to just be in that kind of overlay thing...I like being able to adjust shit quickly without having to deal with the overlay. OBS being on my second monitor is perfect for just being able to quickly start/stop and adjust settings if needed without really interrupting anything.
sick sentinel
@chilly brook shadowplay and my pc are not in good terms
They don't like eachother
chilly brook
@warm plinth you can set up keybinds for it without bringing up the overlay
warm plinth
Yeah I know, but idk. It bothers me to not be able to see what's recording my stuff lol
warm plinth
Yeah, just sounds like personal preference at that point, which is fine
chilly brook
It largely is
You’re not gonna be worse off for using obs or shadowplay
Unless you’re trying to stream with shadowplay
Then you’re definitely worse off
warm plinth
Yeah I do love the instant replay feature on it. I was doing the same thing essentially with the Windows Game DVR though.
warm plinth
Yeah it does. I didn't have geforce experience downloaded for a while though and I guess shadowplay is part of that
chilly brook
Yea
I miss the old shadowplay though
Used to give you more customization options
And you didn’t have to have an nvidia account
fresh valley
I love shadowplay, made an awesome play, record it! Wanna see what you did wrong, record it! Wanna see how BS first bullet inaccuracy is in cs go? Record it!
junior ivy
whats shadowplay
analog zinc
How good do you guys think Prot War is gonna be in 8.2 mythic+?
spice ferry
just as good as they are now
spice ferry
they still offer the best mitigation out of any tank and they still do dumb damage. They will still be highly desirably in the m+ scene
analog zinc
they're definitely not gonna be as good as they are now
distant crystal
it won't be "protwarr or gtfo"
analog zinc
prot war will be the best at pure physical damage but we aren't dealing with that in 8.2
We're dealing with damage reflect, casters that can't be interupted
spice ferry
and what lvls of keys are you talking about anyway
dapper rune
been on that fotm prot warrior m+ grind
see some people running siphoning and quick nav on weps
whats the dif? or even benefits?
analog zinc
around 20+
I do 15s on my DH but it's impossible to find groups even tho I can go higher
so I'm thinking of picking up a new main for 8.2
spice ferry
i mean im doing 19/20/21s on a dk atm and they're by no means the meta.
Prot war will still be very strong in 8.2, regardless of how the affix actually plays out
find people to play, that'll instantly allow you to go much higher and still play whatever you want
but its true, 8.2 is likely going to allow other tanks a chance to shine but i still doubt warrior is going to be knocked off from the #1 pick
spice ferry
i think not eudora
distant crystal
is that knuckledusters?
spice ferry
not sure sorry
grand spruce
thats talk to the vlupera and have a drink
plush tapir
what are the best trinkets for prot?
merry cave
@analog zinc pally is another good pick for 8.2 m+
analog zinc
rn my DH is 416, war 411, Pally 399 & my DK just capped 2 days ago
spice ferry
bulk ap
im at 16/18 ready to go on my main
@analog zinc youre asking us to predict the future. We can't tell you what is the best tank to play. Things are still subject to change and we can't say for sure how the meta will be affected by the new affix
true tinsel
is the tanking trinket from crucible better than rezans and block?
spice ferry
depends on the ilvls
potent anvil
At comparative ilvls, it's better defensively if used effectively. It's essentially a healthstone.
true tinsel
405 block
willow scarab
It depends what content you’re doing and what your person issues are
austere pelican
