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strong forum
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Does bear unironically do good dps?

oblique garnet
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@sick sentinel Log in lets do some keys im bored

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And yes they do alot of damage

undone sun
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yeah, pretty good for consistent aoe

strong forum
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Cuz I just finished leveling mine im at 340ilvl rn gonna get some boosts going next reset

sand egret
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gotta trait up tho to really make it shine

oblique garnet
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The nerfs put us pretty much equal with guardians

strong forum
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Hm... So I want 3x twisted claws and 1x layered fur?

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And what else

sand egret
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wildfleshrending

undone sun
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wfr

oblique garnet
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^

strong forum
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Aight

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We be pumping bois

sand egret
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honestly, if you wanna pump drop the LM

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and go 3x each

oblique garnet
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Not sure how big of an difference the essences will be on guardian vs prot but @undone sun Is probably expert on that

strong forum
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Mh.. But it sounds too good to pass up

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But will see

undone sun
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expert 🤣

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the rage essence is likely the go to, honestly haven't been following it too much but anima also rings a bell if that's still a thing

heavy vault
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still got the best phys mitigation so we going nowhere

exotic spoke
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Late and I were talking about Perfection major, pearlescent (rage refund) and sphere as minor

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Even more mitigation

strong forum
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The rage refund sounds broken as hell tbh

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Heal + versa + more rage?? Sign me the fuck up

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Unless Im confusing things

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Cuz I haven't read up on essences since day 1 ptr

heavy vault
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its going to be a mess when 8.2 drops

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way too many changes happening simultaneously

exotic spoke
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Also cooldown on avatar reduced by 13% from perfection

strong forum
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Well you want the major on that

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The rnd procs

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Not the cdr

exotic spoke
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Yeah, but major gives you the minor

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You get both

strong forum
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Wait what

autumn pendant
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No

strong forum
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You only get either or

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Not both

autumn pendant
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Essences have major and minor apsects

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Thats true

exotic spoke
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And as I understood it the major gave you both of them

autumn pendant
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No no

strong forum
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Na major only gives you major

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Minor gives you minor

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So it's either proc

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Or cdr

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That's how I understood it

autumn pendant
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Well easiest way to look at it is

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If you put essence into major slot

strong forum
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Theres not much room for confusion

sand egret
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Oh? I also heard it was major grants both major and minor... hmph

autumn pendant
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Only major part of essence will be active

exotic spoke
autumn pendant
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Thats how i understood it

strong forum
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Well hasn't anybody here been on ptr?

exotic spoke
strong forum
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And actually KNOWS it

exotic spoke
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Fourth down

strong forum
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That's pog

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I didn't know that

autumn pendant
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Okay i stand corrected

exotic spoke
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Granted - could change

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cause PTR and shit. But yeah

sand egret
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ah ok I wasnt going crazy

autumn pendant
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Hmmm

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I was

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Somebody tie me up

exotic spoke
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But you no longer get the CDR proc it’s just a flat reduction % now

sand egret
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thatd be a dumb ass change to create an exclusive moment like that

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Get him!

exotic spoke
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But yeah - late tested it and he thinks Avatar cooldown is going to be like 30-35 seconds with that set up

strong forum
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Well yeah

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It's already 40-45seconds

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So take 13% of off that

exotic spoke
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His was conservative

sick sentinel
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Thats not how math works

exotic spoke
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I’m thinking 30 seconds - so maybe only 3 seconds of down time

strong forum
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How else would it work

exotic spoke
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He means 13% of the base 90 seconds

sick sentinel
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yep

strong forum
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It has 13% less CD

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It's already down to 40-45seconds due to play with AM

exotic spoke
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So it becomes ~76 second cd then reduced by AM

strong forum
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That's massive

exotic spoke
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But you have to consider you now have less time to spend rage to reduce the cooldown

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Sorry it’s ~78 seconds

wispy plume
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The real question to me is which will give the most overall uptime. It seems if the price chance is high enough it would be worth it to just run the proc chance. Because while in avatar we generate more rage anyway

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Essentially giving us CDR on Avatar

exotic spoke
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You use perfection as a major to proc a seven second avatar and it’s minor to reduce the CD by 13%

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You use pearlescent as a minor for the rage refund.
And the last one was a proc of a secondary. Sphere was one option

wispy plume
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You can’t use the same@one as both minor and major though

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Or that’s what that post above just said

exotic spoke
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We just went through this

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If you use it as a major you also get the minor

strong forum
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Ye you get the Cdr AND the proc using it as major

wispy plume
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I gotcha. I misread the 4th down

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Yeah I gotcha

strong forum
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Which I didn't know until now

autumn pendant
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^

strong forum
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That's borderline insane

wispy plume
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Same lol

autumn pendant
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Same

wispy plume
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Yeah that’s actually busted

strong forum
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Same for arms warri

autumn pendant
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And FURYYYYY

exotic spoke
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Sorry, memory of lucid dreams - it’s not pearlescent any more

strong forum
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The rnd proc + cdr is huge m+ dps for bleeds

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Bro fuck fury

autumn pendant
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😟

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You made powerful weak enemy today

exotic spoke
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So sphere gives you haste and aegis gives you vers

sand egret
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fury is waccck

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they removed the attack speed reduction right

exotic spoke
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From what?

sand egret
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sphere

exotic spoke
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You gain haste and speed

sand egret
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or at least one had a minor that reduced enemy attack speed when hit

exotic spoke
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That’s gone. It’s in the major

sand egret
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smaht

strong forum
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List of things to remove from the game:
Monks
Rogues
Fury
Mages

autumn pendant
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And @strong forum

exotic spoke
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Rip

sand egret
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the two dps specs warr should have is Left Arm and Right Arm Warrior.

empty inlet
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Keys closed next season

sick sentinel
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List of things to remove from the game
Ret and prot paladins
Monks
Lfr

autumn pendant
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Kaege

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Help

sick sentinel
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What happened

autumn pendant
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They want to remove fury

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šŸ‘€

sick sentinel
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Fury is literally the best spec in the game gameplay wise

oblique garnet
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Oh man i missed the discussion about the essences?

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Ok kaege stop lying

sick sentinel
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I have been playing this game since I was 6 years old in 2006

exotic spoke
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I mean it just started

sick sentinel
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Cataclysm combat rogues and bfa fury are my top 2 spec gameplay wise

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Sue me

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Ofc this is subjective and just my opinion

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But still

strong forum
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Fury is disgusting ever since they introduced titan grip

sick sentinel
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Legion ench was really fucking fun as well

oblique garnet
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also iirc the sphere also had the attack speed reduction major on epic rank

exotic spoke
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Yup

sick sentinel
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@strong forum the single and only thing that made me make a warrior

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Was seeing a human warrior in stormwind

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Dual wielding gurthalak

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It was the coolest thing I had ever seen

strong forum
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:pepesaur:

sick sentinel
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One of my favourite bugs of all times is triple wielding

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Where you have 2 weapons on your hands on 1 weapon on your back

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Triple 2hander warrior

exotic spoke
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I personally liked having 52 talents for a bit in vanilla

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When everyone else only had 51

strong forum
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One of my favourite bugs was cata pvp season 1 when the 2h Hammer was actually big....

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And then they nerfed it cuz they felt it was too big

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And made it fucking tiny

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:pepehands:

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Worst game decision ever

sick sentinel
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that thing was fucking enormous

strong forum
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Ye it was amazing

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Actually felt like a Hammer

sick sentinel
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felt like i was bopping people with one of those novelty inflatable ones

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Do you know what hammer I want

heavy chasm
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Wtb 2 handed weapon and shield please

strong forum
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Pls don't Lothar

sick sentinel
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Smough's hammer

strong forum
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It would ruin prot warri for me

sick sentinel
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From dark souls 1

heavy chasm
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If fury can swing two around why cant prot swing one

strong forum
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Cuz fury is an abomination

heavy chasm
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Think of the mogs

strong forum
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Ye... Terrible

heavy chasm
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The mogs BB

undone sun
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we dont have the grip of titans

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ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

heavy chasm
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Taeshalach

strong forum
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Oh god

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The horror

heavy chasm
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I'd personally hate it

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I dont like TG

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I want single minded fury back

sick sentinel
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I love it

heavy chasm
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But let's have some options

strong forum
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No

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Don't

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Too many kids will run with fucking Armageddon

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And go full pepega

heavy chasm
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Lol

sick sentinel
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Armageddon is ugly

timid jay
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Tbh, having prot use a 2h + shield would make gearing cross spec so much easier

mortal brook
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ugh. fury warrs that mirror unique weapons D:

timid jay
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and give warriors some flavour

strong forum
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Thiiiis @mortal brook

oblique garnet
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great news

mortal brook
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2hed and shield is for crusaders

heavy chasm
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Let's see how triggered nomeratur can get

oblique garnet
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the first questline in nazjatar gives 415 2hander 1 hander or shield

heavy chasm
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Woww

strong forum
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Well I have all of it

astral crystal
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neat

sick sentinel
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2 hand+shield is my dream

mortal brook
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beating your face against nazjatar gives full 430

oblique garnet
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pretty much

astral crystal
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jesus

strong forum
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415 2h
420 shield
And like 4 415 1h

astral crystal
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isnt that heroic level?

mortal brook
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yes

astral crystal
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insane

mortal brook
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its a fuckin grind tho

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worse than nethershards

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way worse

heavy chasm
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Idk they make top handers hit like limp ass noodles anyway. So no reason prot cant wield one

astral crystal
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at least it looks like the catchup will be super fast for 8.2

heavy chasm
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As is blizz fashion

mortal brook
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the heart to 55 was just a ptr thing

astral crystal
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so when cosmo comes back he can gear instantly

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Kappa

oblique garnet
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50-51 takes 56k ap

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it wont take long to get to 55 neck

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to unlock the minor

mortal brook
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remember, don't open your paragon caches until after the AK after you hit 54 ^^

oblique garnet
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16 hours of islands cant wait !!! : )

mortal brook
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ez

oblique garnet
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i need to find a tv show to binge watch while i do islands with rabbit charms

mortal brook
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think of all the health based attacks and complete lack of diminishing returns in those islands Kreygasm

oblique garnet
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Do them with charms and all you have to do is mine

mortal brook
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I run with with a friend. they have stockpiles of rabbit feet, i have stockpiles of bandaids and lightprisms šŸ˜„ goes fast

oblique garnet
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also selling m+ boost will actually be profitable again because most people wont be able to clear +10 content

exotic spoke
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Darkmoon firewater makes looting even faster

mortal brook
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that works on islands? neat

oblique garnet
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So many things to be excited about in 8.2

mortal brook
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i gotta try it next opulence

autumn pendant
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@oblique garnet yea we will be exited

mortal brook
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looking forward to Nazjatar wpvp tbh

autumn pendant
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@oblique garnet cheeky correction

exotic spoke
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Lol

oblique garnet
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I already got ganked on ptr by alliance and he had like an elite npc helping him

stoic pilot
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Is there any speculation on patch release date?

astral crystal
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probably a week or two

oblique garnet
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2 weeks

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someone said on 19th

stoic pilot
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That would be cool

oblique garnet
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nobody really knows

stoic pilot
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Yeah just was curious if any dates were floating about

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I’d be surprised if they don’t release it before July 2nd

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Considering the ff 14 expansion

mortal brook
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they've overlapped releases before

stoic pilot
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Looking forward to trying out other tanks in addition to prot tbh

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Druid on ptr feels decent

lime mantle
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Looking forward to vdh!
He’s gonna he viable!

astral crystal
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i hear brewmaster will finally be viable :^)

mortal brook
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hot trub still not nerfed. pretty pog atm.

spice ferry
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In what world has brew not been viable?

mortal brook
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hell, worldvein resonance hasnt been nerfed yet....

astral crystal
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is jokes, konrad

stoic pilot
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It’s funny how often vision procs for brew on ptr

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Felt like brew turned into a hunter class

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With all the Dave procs

lime mantle
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Doesn’t vision just give you +20 DR on brm?

sand egret
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I feel like that it's just going to be problematic with Dave running around all the time, esp if you wanna control the mobs. Granted, I don't have much experience hanging with Dave

mortal brook
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visions is summon ox frendo now for brm

sand egret
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ahem

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his name is Dave.

mortal brook
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Dave

sand egret
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show some respect.

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Dave, Gary, the Tree Amigos, the real tanks of WoW

mortal brook
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fo real. the first guardian +15 was triple boomie resto sham lol

sand egret
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we're all just pet classes, really

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If i were talented I'd totally run a comic strip focusing on the life of Gary during Reaping season. "Ugh seriously, again?! How can these idiots not handle a bunch of ghosts.....?"

mortal brook
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ox runs away cuz 2spooky

sand egret
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have Dave as a recurring character

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just running around prancing "LOOK AT ME DAMMIT"

sick sentinel
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Dave

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Wait

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Is dave the freehold critter?

final mist
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BRM talent

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Dave the Ox

sick sentinel
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Oh

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Imagine playing a monk btw

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Most boring healer spec
Most boring tank spec
One of the most boring dps specs

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All in one class

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Lmao

warm plinth
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What’s boring about windwalker?

sick sentinel
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Idk every monk that has played for more than a patch rerolls and tells me that 🤷

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Also @warm plinth I took a look at your youtube channel

trail whale
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hmm i'm trying to think... WW takes more thought than fury arms and frost dk put together

warm plinth
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What YouTube channel? The 2 videos on it? Lmao

sick sentinel
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Shit's golden

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You just thunderstorm people off cliffs

warm plinth
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Oh yeah I have the thunderstorm shit on there

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Forgot lol

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I like windwalker too Coffee. I think it’s fun.

trail whale
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it's perfectly fine, i'm just curious as to why someone would call it boring when compared to the other melee dps specs

warm plinth
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Eh, fun is subjective to be fair. What I like, someone else may hate.

exotic spoke
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Oh my god... I’m on the reddit weekly tanking thread.

There’s someone trying to say HR and NS is good. Along with other things like stocking more mastery

warm plinth
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Oh good. Here comes a new wave of stupid questions šŸ˜„

sick sentinel
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Also ghash did you watch the vids?

exotic spoke
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And he’s attacking me. Hooraaay

warm plinth
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I watched ML. Haven’t had a chance to watch the Waycrest yet.

oblique garnet
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@warm plinth be honest how bad is my finnish accent

warm plinth
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I was actually about to say I didn’t have trouble understanding either of you.

lime mantle
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Reddit is a shithole as is any community with upvotes.
I’d rather discuss with twitch chat or 4chan than Reddit.

modern brook
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LOL

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nice shit opinion

lime mantle
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Finnish accent is not hard to understand, even super deep Finnish accent.

oblique garnet
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Its not hard to understand it just sound horrid

warm plinth
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I forgot where Kaege is from though. Greece?

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I mean it is pretty thick but since you’re fucking Finnish, that’s to be expected lol

livid totem
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@sick sentinel no please, monk heal is one of the funnier spec I've ever played tbh in BfA, it reminds me a lot of Disc priest.

warm plinth
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Probably because Disc stole their healing style from the OG fistweaving šŸ˜

livid totem
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and I still find the tank spec to be really original and more fun than all the other tank spec

lime mantle
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Finnish at worst makes you sound sightly retarded (no offense).
Unlike Spanish which is unintelligible ad makes me cringe whenever I hear a Spanish speaker attempt to speak in English with a super deep accent.

livid totem
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maybe. haven't played OG fistweaving 😦

warm plinth
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Wowwww lol

livid totem
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Either way, I really like disc priest / glimmer pala heal / monk which all have kind of the same playstyle

warm plinth
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I think the biggest problem with healers as far as gauging gameplay goes, is that some heal specs just feel like shit without decent gear

livid totem
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really ? I didn't feel like it with monk heal tbh

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I felt like shit in Legion with Disc priest without gear though

warm plinth
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Nah monk isn't really one of them. But paladins without gear are like DPSing with a low ilevel main hand

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Disc I imagine is the same way since atonement healing would be low af with crap gear

livid totem
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oh yeah if we're talking about pala heal ...

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it wasn't fun for sure, and combine that with the ret.rded players and you get kicked in no time in m+

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hell, the simple mention of "disc or holy ?" is enough to get you kicked from the group.

warm plinth
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lul

exotic spoke
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I mean... you’re not wrong...

I tend to not pug, occasionally I’ll pug heroic opulence or Jaina.

I was surprised last night when I was turned down twice

sick sentinel
autumn pendant
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Where the hell is that from

sick sentinel
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My mplus discord

exotic spoke
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I have to have a messaging app for my m+ group.

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Two Canadians and three Americans. So we use it to prevent International rates >.>

sick sentinel
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The purple color is the "friends" role, so people who don't do keys and they are there just to hang out

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Like @umbral forge

stoic pilot
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I was playing hpal with low gear and it actually made me despise the class. I got a few azerite pieces and a holy wep from a friend later on

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and glimmer is really fun

umbral forge
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A

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yea

stoic pilot
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it's actually insane how different it feels with gear versus no gear so I can see that

umbral forge
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I'm not good enough for their keys 🤷

exotic spoke
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I’m hurt kaege. Hurt I tell you

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Well that’s because you made a nightborne warrior 😦

umbral forge
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I haven't logged into my warrior for a month

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I'm a 9/9 mythic hunter/shadow priest

sick sentinel
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Hey jet

umbral forge
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Sup

sick sentinel
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Did you see our new emotes

umbral forge
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na

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lemme see

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Nice.

warm plinth
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I'm good enough for any key. Can you believe this guy struggles with 20s pshhh

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šŸ˜‚

exotic spoke
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Hey... I struggle with 20s 😦

umbral forge
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I was like

warm plinth
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Shameful

umbral forge
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"Season 3! I'll get a group together and push 2k, 3k rating"

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and blizzard was like

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"HEY BEGUILING"

exotic spoke
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I bring dishonor to my family....

umbral forge
warm plinth
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What in the world is that

umbral forge
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dauntless

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super fun and great game

sick sentinel
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@umbral forge isn't that the monsterhunter clone?

umbral forge
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Yea it is

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I play so much Monster Hunter I'm verified in arekkz gaming's discord 🤣

sick sentinel
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I downloaded

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Ot

umbral forge
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Sweet, wanna play some day?

sick sentinel
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I have never played it

umbral forge
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that's fine, I have like 100 hours the past week but that's it

sick sentinel
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It's on my pc for like , 3 months now

warm plinth
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Oh, only 100 hours

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Nbd

sick sentinel
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Never opened it

umbral forge
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I mean

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I would know for sure if it wasn't for epic gaming store being shit

warm plinth
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Hey that's me with ESO. I bought it after playing a bit of the beta; have literally never logged in.

deft robin
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how is prot looking in 8.2 after the trait nerfs?

warm plinth
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So RAF is going down today (which I guess might be why the extended maintenance?). Who wants to take bets on whether or not it'll actually be good when they bring it back (if they ever really do)?

umbral forge
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They wont bring it back

sick sentinel
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@deft robin pins

exotic spoke
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Kaege, I just heard this is a thing - can you confirm?

High tyrannical ML keys you hearth out and swap talents before last boss. Hell I’d say even before 3rd boss?

warm plinth
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That's kinda where I'm leaning too Jettom.

exotic spoke
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@deft robin yes, prot looks good. Check the pins for more info like kaege said

deft robin
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Thanks. Direct and to the point.

exotic spoke
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We get a dps nerf - maybe? Hard to say with essences. But a definite mitigation buff. Substantial buff to physical mitigation and noticeable to magic imo

sick sentinel
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@exotic spoke not worth

exotic spoke
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That’s what I figured. I just never heard of it before

jovial verge
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lol I was just in that reddit thread. thinking "wtf did I just read"

exotic spoke
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People where saying horde warriors do it higher keys

sick sentinel
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Getting an ignore pain bigger than your hp pool

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Doesn't do anything

exotic spoke
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Yeah, cptsnuggles - I had the other guy calling me out and saying my 6/9 m and 2400 wasn’t good after I corrected literally everything he said

jovial verge
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Lmao yeah.

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NS is gud ok

exotic spoke
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So is heavy repercussions....

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Cause I want to lose my short cooldowns and 15 seconds of block with LS

sick sentinel
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Getting that last stand heal on demand is more worth than a bit bigger IP

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Even on fights where block does nothing

undone sun
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oh boy

sick sentinel
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Like 3rd boss and 4th boss ml

exotic spoke
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That’s what I figured.

jovial verge
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I mean, Never Surrender is good, and so is HR, but, the opportunity cost is way too big. vs bolster/am

exotic spoke
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I just wanted to confirm because I had never heard of it before

sick sentinel
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@jovial verge never surrender is utter garbage

warm plinth
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Never Surrender isn't good. At all. In any situation.

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Even if you aren't comparing it to Bolster, it's still trash.

sick sentinel
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Never surrender is never good

exotic spoke
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Youdont get low enough to maximize benefit. Sorry - you don’t want to get low enough

jovial verge
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Its good in my level 45 deadmines runs ok.

undone sun
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NS isn't even good in a vacuum, let alone competing with bolster

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😓

sick sentinel
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I don't understand why this discussion is even a thing

strong forum
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Cuz retards

jovial verge
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some "iamverysmart" guy on reddit was talking about how riki was trash because he won't run NS/HR

sick sentinel
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@livid totem shouldn't you ask in the brm discord?

modern brook
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^

undone sun
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+1

modern brook
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#brewmaster

undone sun
livid totem
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sorry guys.

sick sentinel
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@jovial verge reddit will be reddit

jovial verge
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That it will.

sick sentinel
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Ayo but leech tho my guys

undone sun
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😔

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šŸŽ£

sick sentinel
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The only time I have run HR This expac is on the warrior only hc uldir run in 8.0

exotic spoke
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It’s aight. He just attacked me cptsnuggles and never provided any evidence of his own

sick sentinel
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The reason behind why people run NS is the same reason think Bob's burgers trinket is op

undone sun
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took me a second..

jovial verge
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I still don't get the bobs burgers thing lol

undone sun
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bob salami

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bwonsamdi

jovial verge
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oh

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TIL lol. And wait, ppl think that thing is good?

sick sentinel
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It's good

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If ur bad

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They think it's good because they run it in mdi

jovial verge
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Ah.

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MDI is meta don't you know?

sick sentinel
#

But they do not understand WHY they do

exotic spoke
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They run it for a very specific reason - stupidly huge pulls

sick sentinel
#

Which is when it will proc

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But for average runs/players u shouldn't be proccing it like the MDI

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The only use for it is when ur new to tanking, warrior or not

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Or prog

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Example

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Blockade

exotic spoke
#

To see a new phase?

sick sentinel
#

If you are soaking

undone sun
#

even then, there are better options

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bobs is planning on failure

willow scarab
#

I think soaking in blockade is actually one of the few bob justifications

oblique garnet
#

pretty much

sick sentinel
#

What else would you use on soaking blobs on blockade other than diamond+bob

exotic spoke
#

I mean ... if you plan for failure you can’t be disappointed

willow scarab
#

Usually I’d argue idol in place of it but the chest death is valid

sick sentinel
#

Or tanking bwomsandi

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On rasta

willow scarab
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Idol instead of it in every other fight

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Or thereabout

sick sentinel
#

King rastakhan?

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Tanking bobsalami

willow scarab
#

Idk because by the time you have it you don’t need it

sick sentinel
#

Well with next patch we are going to need it for the priest boss in AD

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Since healers don't know what a dispell is

willow scarab
#

Idol is better

sick sentinel
#

Using the heroic version to proc mythic

willow scarab
#

And by the time your key is high enough to matter I think the healer will dispel

sick sentinel
#

Ud fucking think that

willow scarab
#

If your healers don’t dispel you can’t possibly be doing high keys

sick sentinel
#

I say high meaning +15-19, since I'm not going for anything above +20 rn

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And unless it's a dispell "worth" dispelling, good luck

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I've had fucking ToS runs where the healer wouldn't dispell shields from riders

modern brook
#

??

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ur not kicking them?

sick sentinel
#

That's an issue on another level

cobalt trellis
#

is there some priestess buff coming?

exotic spoke
#

Just make a group

sick sentinel
#

The priest boss from AD is getting her claw buff,buffed

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As well as other number changed with the fight

cobalt trellis
#

ah ok i see

sick sentinel
#

Like transfusion doing more damage and gorbs probably killing

modern brook
#

i mean

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if they want that to be a fight just make the pools hurt

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🤷

exotic spoke
#

She got most of her abilities buffed

sick sentinel
#

All I'm happy about is that the stone golems don't heal no more

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So now AD will have new paths open

exotic spoke
#

Truth

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I’m indifferent about the TD change

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Actually that’s a lie. Now I’m sad - because I likely won’t be able to kill people with the extra shots that they could do to troll

sick sentinel
#

Lol

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TDs cannon nerf was expected

exotic spoke
#

Mostly unaffected because we did it ā€œnormallyā€ and didn’t drag the majority of the dungeon to the cannons

sick sentinel
#

Like the absolute destruction that is the prot warrior nerf

exotic spoke
#

Eh, I’m optimistic about 8.2 still

sick sentinel
#

8.2 made prot bad and weak and now we need a buff because we aren't op no more

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This is a huge nerf to prot

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Omega

autumn pendant
#

Exaggerating a bit , arent you

sick sentinel
#

Nooo

undone sun
#

welcome to INR

sick sentinel
#

Welcome to reddit

trail whale
#

sarcasm doesn't translate well when people are used to others whining

sick sentinel
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And me

autumn pendant
#

Prob also doesnt help when I just look at last 2 parts of convo

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šŸ˜„

sick sentinel
#

It won't really matter since Sco has to make his tank tier list

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With warrior still f tier

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its not the place but i just got headhunter in poe

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just wanted to say so people might rage

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thanks

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The fuck is a PoE

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Oh wait nvn

warm plinth
#

Piece of Eggplant

sick sentinel
#

Ah and here I thought it was pineapple or eggs

modern brook
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Poop on Everyone

sick sentinel
#

I'm glad you said that and mad that I didn't think of it first

modern brook
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netime inr

exotic spoke
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Lol - sco tier list. How warriors are bottom of that I don’t know

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There are still demonhunters

oblique garnet
#

Are you watching like the bfa beginning tier list?

exotic spoke
#

Someone else said that

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INR did. Is it recent?

oblique garnet
#

11 months old afaik

exotic spoke
#

Yup, just looked myself.

modern brook
#

i mean

exotic spoke
#

I’m mean ?

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Sorry - not a question. I’m an asshole

modern brook
#

sorry i forgot i typed that and went to lunch

exotic spoke
#

I mean

modern brook
#

I was just implying that the point was less that it was updated and more that sco's an idiot whos bound to be wrong on a guess 1 week into the patch, but people will take it as bible for 4+ months

exotic spoke
#

Oh fair enough.

But yeah - while viable we definitely weren’t in a good place when bfs launched

golden blaze
#

Does anyone know what the breakpoints are for prot warrior as far as stats go ie: how much Crit should you have per percent? I’ve been looking for info on this and have not been lucky

warm plinth
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We don't have any breakpoints.

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That's why you haven't found anything

wispy plume
#

More stats is more better

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That’s prot’s break point lol

warm plinth
#

^ this basically. Our break point is when you're like Deswind and can't get upgrades anymore

exotic spoke
#

Go with Ilvl - pick haste assuming equal Ilvl.

Tweak based on your experiences / content.

For rings / bracers / cloak you tend to consider sockets a little more than elsewhere

golden blaze
#

And what Azerite traits do you prefer for m+ and for raid?

exotic spoke
#

check the pins / icy veins guide

It’s all explained there

undone sun
exotic spoke
#

The prot guide is written by the main prot theorycrafter. It’s solid and well written. Why paraphrase when he does a better job of explaining? Or I could just copy and paste - but it’s already all there

warm plinth
#

You're solid and well-written

exotic spoke
#

Aww thanks friend

timid jay
#

@melva 😔

exotic spoke
#

Aight, it’s time to get back into pvp.

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I’m being challenged and told that I can’t do it like I used to. General thoughts on comps?

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Prot or arms doesn’t matter

sick sentinel
#

hey guys, tanking CoS heroic first time today, anything big I have to watch out compared to non-heroic?

indigo thorn
#

Did they nerf the šŸ‘ talent further on the PTR?

undone sun
#

yes

exotic spoke
#

It’s 30% bonus damage now

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As for CoS - I don’t know how it is on normal nneoh sorry

sick sentinel
#

Can't blame you for skipping that difficulty if you can šŸ˜„

modern brook
#

@exotic spoke i imagine prot / rdruid / dh is something

heavy chasm
#

Holy fuck

modern brook
#

with 100% of ur gameplan being to go to 70% dampening

exotic spoke
#

Probably. Thinking relearning arms for pvp

heavy chasm
#

That sounds like cancer

modern brook
#

like your only win con is mana

exotic spoke
#

But that does sound cancerous

modern brook
#

rsham oribabky better tbh

exotic spoke
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I’m used to multi hour arenas so I’m good with going to dampening

heavy chasm
#

That's like shave your pubes with a vegetable peeler level cancer

modern brook
#

Arms, in my experience, just loses vs mage

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arcane / frost

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which describes warrior in general for arenas. You just sorta fold against certain stuff

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on the other hand you fuck priests

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in 2's though Arms + healer is v good

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you win the mana game cause of MS

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and Dstance

heavy chasm
#

Arms plus hpal oldie but a goodie

modern brook
#

I do arms rduid

heavy chasm
#

With them freedoms so you still like glue

exotic spoke
#

Arms rdruid was where it’s at

mortal brook
#

kitty cleave!

modern brook
#

arms hpal w/ freedom seems like sex though

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nothing feels sadder than when ur slowly approaching a mage and he just blinks

heavy chasm
#

I feel like that's why mages eat arms

modern brook
#

and u dont have charge :^(

heavy chasm
#

Unless you get a clutch SR your pretty dicked

exotic spoke
#

@umbral forge I found you on reddit...

umbral forge
#

Wait

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You did?

mortal brook
#

gotem

exotic spoke
#

Tried to pm you but it didn’t let me

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I win

umbral forge
#

I'm the head moderator of a website with ~40 million unique visitors a day so I have to keep my DM's to friends only or they'll explode harder than Nagasaki 🤷

exotic spoke
#

Hmm hmm

modern brook
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dude thats my favorite website

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ididnt know u moderated it

waxen sand
#

The prot guide led me to do a +10 at 368 item level

#

It’s good.

lusty grotto
#

oh

fresh valley
#

i've ran fury/rdruid to 1950, get hard cucked against all those destro locks at that level

lusty grotto
#

wb jonathon

fresh valley
#

šŸ˜„

#

it took some begging and pleading

lusty grotto
#

lmao

fresh valley
#

and some timeout time

lusty grotto
#

well it wasnt on purpose

fresh valley
#

no it wasn't

#

was it a bot that got me?

lusty grotto
#

nah haha

fresh valley
#

cause like, i was here, i went back to work

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come back

#

and i was outers

lusty grotto
#

its all good

fresh valley
#

was it you? ;O

#

lol

lusty grotto
#

i dont have that kind of power

#

i only have the power to start shit lol

fresh valley
#

what have i missed over the last month? is there a new meme build i need to be aware of?

#

are we pumped for 8.2?

lusty grotto
#

same old pretty much

fresh valley
#

i am, finally some new content to do!

#

the new affix for m+ looks like cancer, just gonna slow dungeons way down

#

and the buffs to atal, TD, and freehold 😮

lusty grotto
#

i personally am not too excited about 8.2

#

to be honest

undone sun
#

very indifferent

lusty grotto
#

i feel like... depending on how hard it will be to push keys

#

might be break time for me

undone sun
#

indefinite hiatus time

fresh valley
#

i'm hoping the new world content will do enough to fill in the gap between pushing keys

#

i've stopped doing keys to focus on pvp lately

sand egret
#

i'm pretty sure you got the boot via Sal cuz you said a GoT spoiler

#

@fresh valley so careful on the spoilers 😃

mortal brook
#

I think it was cuz he said Eyir sucks

gilded tendonBOT
#

fuk u @mortal brook

fresh valley
#

yeah i'm not worried about it

#

the show's done now

rapid wren
#

longstrider (full 7%) or bury the hatchet?

mortal brook
#

bury the hatchet for explosive week šŸ˜„ longstrider the rest of the weeks

sick sentinel
#

basically this

rapid wren
#

thanks šŸ˜„

#

my best keystone last week was a +11 (depleted). i only received a +9 today. is this a bug or working as intended?

mortal brook
#

sometimes drops 2 yeah

#

happy buggy game

rapid wren
#

think blizz will fix if i open a ticket?

mortal brook
#

prob not, and def not in the time it would take to run the 9

rapid wren
#

damn. well im gonna open one and go to work for a few hrs. wish me luck lol

mortal brook
#

glhf

red wedge
#

During Season 1, I always received a key 2 less than what I completed the prior week.

#

Same thing happened for the first 3 weeks of Season 2, then it just sorted itself out.

#

ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

exotic spoke
#

4 more hours until I open the chest of disappointment

heavy chasm
#

Mereks

#

Get ready

exotic spoke
#

Going fury for the chest - need some trinkets I

lusty grotto
#

remote desktoped in

#

bracers on rogue

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bracers on paladin

mortal brook
#

good thing you main warr

lusty grotto
#

hang on for warrior

exotic spoke
#

Did nimchy get an upgrade?

lusty grotto
#

which will probably be bracers

#

fuck no

mortal brook
#

there was a 14 week span in legion where i got the same pants. new tier? same pants. always pants. different loot spec? same pants

#

14 weeks

lusty grotto
#

im cursed with bracers

#

seriously

heavy chasm
#

I'm a belt man myself

exotic spoke
#

I was a trinket man for like 5 weeks straight. Recently I’ve taken a break and need to get back to that’s

lusty grotto
#

welp i got a ring

#

sidegrade

#

410 only

exotic spoke
#

Double bomsawmdi trinkets on our first mythic kill

#

Diamond early - but none since >.>

lusty grotto
#

0 diamonds, so i stopped doing it

exotic spoke
#

Rip.

#

I mean last week I used mine as much as you used yours

#

Does that make you feel better?

lusty grotto
#

ive made my peace with it ;P

exotic spoke
#

Lol fair enough. Transfer alliance and I’ll give you one.

#

Come be a dps war with us until I need a new third tank

lusty grotto
#

that's a negative for me dawg

exotic spoke
#

2 days a week 3 hours a raid

#

Pretty please?

#

I’ll carry nimchy

lusty grotto
#

best i can do is 2 fiddy

exotic spoke
#

I mean you don’t need to do 2 fiddy

#

It’s a carry

lusty grotto
#

i just don't like the current alliance at all, seems like it will be fucking hell to pug keys

#

i mean you get shitters in horde, but at least it's fast

exotic spoke
#

But I’m different from the other alliance. Also we have people active doing keys at a lot of different times

#

Think of rigatony!

atomic isle
#

trinket combo this week?

exotic spoke
#

I mean - what trinkets do you have and what do you need?

sick sentinel
#

Should i go vers or haste prot warr?

#

ilvl 380

exotic spoke
#

You go Ilvl and if equal Ilvl you go haste @sick sentinel

sick sentinel
#

Okay

atomic isle
#

i have alch trink, rezans eye, jes, diamond barrier, gore cruster block.

#

vial

exotic spoke
#

Same Ilvl or not?

do you need survivability or not?

Assuming you mean m+ as well

atomic isle
#

same ilvl

heavy chasm
#

Riki EU or NA?

exotic spoke
#

I’m NS

#

NA

heavy chasm
#

Holy shit

#

An NA ally

#

Theres more?.??

exotic spoke
#

Spent most of my life as NA. I was horde selling rbg carries towards end of cata / early mop but otherwise NA

#

As alliance*

heavy chasm
#

What server?

#

I'm a sargeras boii

exotic spoke
#

This character has been on bloodhoof (original), KT, Tich, one or two others, and then back to good ole shithoof

heavy chasm
#

Why would you back to bloodhoof

exotic spoke
#

Cause it’s my home

heavy chasm
#

I spent a but of time there, like a few weeks

#

But going from high pop to that was painful

exotic spoke
#

It’s where my friends where.

I finished selling carries / getting paid to transfer and I made that a condition of my last transfer

heavy chasm
#

Although tich as alliance was a yikes

exotic spoke
#

This was back in cata

#

I transferred a lot.

heavy chasm
#

Ohh gotcha

exotic spoke
#

Never paid for one of them out of my pocket

heavy chasm
#

I moved around lot myself but finally settled at sargeras

exotic spoke
#

@atomic isle do you need survivability? If so diamond / rezan I MO

If not I’d do vial and rezan probably

#

But yeah. The only thing I wish alliance had are goblins. Then I’d be happy

last mason
#

Any shields that go well with the mythic bod set

atomic isle
#

cool i like diamon/rezan

heavy chasm
#

There called gnomes dude

exotic spoke
#

Nah - goblins are better for what I like

#

Mobility and more haste

undone sun
#

idr what bod set looks like but always spike shield

exotic spoke
#

Bulwark of azzinoth, one of the old pvp ones, or ERB are my go to

undone sun
#

@warm plinth can confirm

last mason
#

The glory legion artifact skin is spiky but meh

#

What’s erb

exotic spoke
#

Yeah but then you have to use the axe too

#

Elementium reinforced bulwark

last mason
#

Oh I have that

#

Low Rez af tho

exotic spoke
#

Depends on the level of nostalgia I have at the moment

last mason
#

Wish bulwark was cheaper on ah

exotic spoke
#

Current set

#

Cheating I know

last mason
#

Nice, I’m worgen tho so I need a BIG shield

exotic spoke
#

Bulwark is a big shield

last mason
#

Ik, I need to farm it tho ugh

exotic spoke
#

It’s a fucking tower shield with spikes

#

Do it while going for glaives

sick sentinel
#

@last mason mage tower shield

exotic spoke
#

Flail is bae

undone sun
#

Flail 😓

exotic spoke
#

What?

#

You don’t like it? I just wish I could have a different shield and use it

undone sun
#

It's a mess, clippy, doesn't properly move

winter aspen
#

if only the flail didnt clip into the ground on dwarf

last mason
#

@sick sentinel unfortunately I didn’t do the prot mage tower

#

Only prot pally

winter aspen
#

yikes

last mason
#

Which is still dope, but no watt

sick sentinel
#

unluck I guess

last mason
#

Warr*

#

Yea

#

I have some of the rarest mage tower skins but not that one

winter aspen
#

the flail with ICC normal looks dope

exotic spoke
#

I need a better weapon / shield for dreadnaught.

#

And to get the belt

#

One nice thing about being on a dead server is things are dirt cheap on BM. I got shoulders for 150k.

The next day they came up again and went for 50k

winter aspen
#

wtf

#

but yeah I sniped the ToS mythic trash belt for 29k

exotic spoke
#

The person in my guild who got them before me paid 500k

Person in my guild paid 1.8 in legion

winter aspen
#

normally its up for like 200k, sold one for 250k before

exotic spoke
#

Really that much for transmog from last expac?

winter aspen
#

it drops from trash and you can imagine how many ppl get it on a dead server

last mason
#

Unpopular opinion I like 1h axes

#

So many of them look like tiny dinner plates tho

#

In my big meaty worgen hands

exotic spoke
#

Fair morth.

winter aspen
#

Troll fury with 1h axes mmmm

livid totem
#

Yep : Legion's articfact challenge shield

#

sorry guys, didn't see there were a lot more message going on

winter aspen
livid totem
#

I was answering to @last mason "Any shields that go well with the mythic bod set"

exotic spoke
#

Eh, I don’t really like the shield from legion.

#

Challenge I mean

winter aspen
#

I like the size

exotic spoke
#

That’s what she said

livid totem
#

I don't like it either, but I find it fitting with BoD skin, does it not ?

exotic spoke
#

I couldn’t tell you what the BoD set looks like

winter aspen
#

stupid on everything else but zandalari troll

heavy chasm
#

That mog looks dope morth

exotic spoke
#

I cant use my Grand Marshal transmog any more.

As a joke one of my raiders claimed I was appropriating his racial identify and paid me to stop using it. I don’t want to give that chunk of gold back

winter aspen
#

@heavy chasm thx

oblique garnet
#

@exotic spoke what???

winter aspen
#

if you have the banana use it šŸ˜„

#

dope looking set even after all the years, especially on normal dwarf

exotic spoke
#

@oblique garnet what what?

signal plover
#

Srsly GM set is top tier dick wave

exotic spoke
#

He paid me 1.5 million gold to stop using my GM set because I was appropriating his racial identity of being yellow

winter aspen
#

lol

exotic spoke
#

Since he’s Chinese.

Literally his words not mine

lusty grotto
#

too bad GM set looks like absolute ass horde side

winter aspen
#

ez money

exotic spoke
#

He also has about 80M

heavy chasm
#

Lolololoo

winter aspen
#

horde clothies have good warlord sets

exotic spoke
#

I like the HWL set too. Brings back memories

#

If I didn’t have those I wouldn’t think the same probably

chilly brook
#

Nintendo was hype

exotic spoke
#

I also think he just got tired of my bright yellow ass running around in the raids.

He also paid for my transfer from human to dwarf... from dwarf to gnome... from gnome to space goat

winter aspen
#

the plate sets kinda look like ass, I like the lower rank version lower too

#

*better

exotic spoke
#

When he goes on break I use it secretly though

sick sentinel
#

oof

#

is there a list of which of you protties are on EU Ally?

lusty grotto
#

no

sick sentinel
#

why not

lusty grotto
#

because that's probably available in the armory

exotic spoke
#

#ProtectYourData
#NoBigBrother

lusty grotto
#

and because why would there be

sick sentinel
#

to make my life easier when looking for a 4th warr to complete our m+ full warr meme comp

exotic spoke
#

I mean where’s your fifth?

#

Also - come to NA alliance and I’ll help

lusty grotto
#

spoiler alert, its a healer

sick sentinel
#

coming

exotic spoke
#

Nah - 5 space goats

#

Probably solved nim

#

And honestly 5 Prot Warriors probably don’t need a healer for 10-12 keys I’d imagine

lusty grotto
#

by HWL did you mean the cata one?

#

i can't find mine, might have disappeared when i swapped to horde

#

the vanilla one

exotic spoke
#

If you hit rank 11 in vanilla (maybe 10) you can use the transmog or if you hit it in rbgs

#

But yeah the HWL gear. I think mine is the cata one that’s higher Rez

lusty grotto
#

didn't we talk about this

exotic spoke
#

Probably? We talk about lots of things

#

Yeah - so you should be able to transmog to it

lusty grotto
#

well i def can't find it

exotic spoke
#

Go to area 52 to buy a set imo

lusty grotto
#

no!

#

i want my original one

#

checking my void bank

exotic spoke
#

You didn’t have the original rank 12-14 one since you only hit 11 šŸ˜›

lusty grotto
#

but at least field marshall

exotic spoke
#

Nah. Field Marshall was rank 13.

#

You hit 11

#

Or am I misinterpreting you

lusty grotto
exotic spoke
#

Rank 10 gear not fully yellow

lusty grotto
#

r11 is commander

exotic spoke
#

Yup. Rank 10 was the last armor piece of that set and rank 11 was the mount - no armor

modern brook
#

:grimace

exotic spoke
#

Rank 12/ 13 was the full like highlighter yellow set

#

That was like a highlighter partially ran out and its still kinda silverish

lusty grotto
#

yup that's as far as i got

exotic spoke
#

Yeah, you can get that set too from A52

lusty grotto
#

so whats the name of that set

exotic spoke
#

Lt commanders set I think?

lusty grotto
#

warlord's

exotic spoke
#

Nah that’s 12/13

lusty grotto
exotic spoke
#

That’s 12:13 because it’s epic

lusty grotto
#

oh general's

exotic spoke
#

Sounds right

#

Or commander and lt general

sand egret
#

How you really know that it's an OG screenshot: Carrot On A Stick

exotic spoke
#

Truth

lusty grotto
#

lmao

exotic spoke
#

Also - IF instead of SW

sand egret
#

also true

#

think I peeped that AV trinket in there

#

oh the MC helm?!

#

it's a fuckin wrap son

exotic spoke
#

Theee stances

lusty grotto
#

i was doing 2 hand fury there for a bit

sand egret
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MC helm was a godsend for world pvp

lusty grotto
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was testing out stuff

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yup

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i was engi/mining until... TBC

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then stayed BS/mining until now

exotic spoke
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I used Crown of Destruction until I got helm of endless rage

sand egret
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oh yeah, ganking people on my rogue with mc helm was wonderful

lusty grotto
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i liked those nurfed unit frames

exotic spoke
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After they buffed pvp gear I used pvp helm and shoulders for pve and pve head and shoulders for pvp....

sand egret
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I remember one time I jumped this shaman/priest duo in Feralas, i'll never forget this shit. MC'd the Shaman and he auto-attacked the priest and his windfury procs hit the fucking lottery

lusty grotto
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i played a lot with addons during classic

sand egret
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basically one shot that dude

exotic spoke
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I miss sword spec

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I miss sword spec procxing sword spec

chilly brook
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I remember using carrot on a stick even in Wrath

exotic spoke
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I had it go three deep once. A mob evaporated

lusty grotto
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eh

exotic spoke
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MS + auto + 3 sword specs

sand egret
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nothing beats the windfury chains

lusty grotto
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carrot didnt do anything in wrath

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well

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at least not for me cause 310 speed from glad mount :p

chilly brook
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Lol

sand egret
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run around all night in bgs....but just once

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you one-shot a warrior

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and it's SOO worth the stupid amount of time spent OOM

exotic spoke
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insert Unbreakables pvp video here

sand egret
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haha YES

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that montage baby

exotic spoke
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I felt bad for a priest in one BG I did

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I globaled him 3 times in one match

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MS, Sword spec, auto attack all crit with ashkandi

lusty grotto
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what was the tauren dude

exotic spoke
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Pat

sand egret
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yeah that was me as one of the like few rogues to actually get the Deathstriker early

lusty grotto
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ya pat

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pat was in arthas

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so was emmortal

exotic spoke
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52 talent points pocket healer

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Maydie

lusty grotto
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shit i even have emmortal on Origin, he plays battlefield a lot

sand egret
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that Deathstriker procs...

lusty grotto
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roguecraft guys were also in arthas

sand egret
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and no one stands a chance

exotic spoke
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They weren’t that good of players - objectively I mean. If you watch the vids a lot keyboard turn and shit.

But they had the tear

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Gear*

sand egret
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that was WoW Vanilla

exotic spoke
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Truth

sand egret
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you had gods in greens taking on 5 people at once

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and scrubs in full sets that got DKP'd into their shit

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Drakedog videos

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šŸ‘Œ

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now THAT shit was entertainment

exotic spoke
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Ever watch the ā€œworld of warriorcraftā€ video

sand egret
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that the one with the guy who's naked?

exotic spoke
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No. It’s a decked out warrior showing issues with class balance against other decked out classes

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Like how a frost mage can do nothing and live forever

sand egret
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ohh right, yeah I think I do remember that one

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Frost vs Warrior was real rough

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sorta like Mage vs Hunter

exotic spoke
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Like I kaybas well go home.

sand egret
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or Rogue vs Warrior

exotic spoke
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Fucking rogues were bad if they were really good too

sand egret
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required SO much finesse

exotic spoke
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Like - I couldn’t beat one rogue on server. I couldn’t fucking hit him either

sand egret
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yeah had to dance in the deadzone

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so you can get the restealth without getting that Rend on ya

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and just bleed em dry haha. Fucking overpower.

exotic spoke
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ā€œHey he went to battle to overpower - have this gougeā€

sand egret
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basically

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such a hard matchup

exotic spoke
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ā€œLet me restealth.... and re open... rinse and repeatā€

sand egret
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if it was a human warrior...

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GFG

exotic spoke
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Keep crippling on... never got close

Only really good rogues could do that. Most didn’t know / couldn’t pull it off

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I was human and couldn’t beat him.

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He was a gnome

sand egret
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ah yeah

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that was the move

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or dwarf but no one played dorf

exotic spoke
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Dwarf could do it.

sand egret
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removing the hamstring was huge

exotic spoke
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Exactly

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I never got a chance to hamstring. He’d dart out before stun wore off and just stutterstepped as I moved

sand egret
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but that human could just pop perception and fuck up your day

exotic spoke
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In that three yard range I couldn’t do anything about

sand egret
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yeahh, then you have the 400iq play of fucking with warriors swing timers

exotic spoke
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One of my favorite times, talking about nostalgia, was pre patch for WotLK

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When dual wield arms wasn’t just viable... it was fucking OP as shit and you doubled the damage, at a minimum, of the next player

sand egret
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ahh yeah i fucked off for a bit at the end of TBC....Sunwell burnt me out royally

exotic spoke
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You missed the fun facetoll time.

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Find two of the fastest one handed swords you could

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go sword spec. go sudden death - and I guess bladestorm. I couldn’t find a better use of the talent point

sand egret
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we talkin bout sword spec...but let's be real. Mace Spec was the real aids

exotic spoke
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Dump rest into fury.

Get the set bonus that gave your executes count as if they had more rage.

Charge in blade storm - and most of your other GcDs for the pull were spamming execute

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In pvp absolutely

sand egret
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the ultimate karma is getting jumped by a warrior as a rogue and having back2back mace procs just getting you 100-0'd

exotic spoke
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Was worse if they were a BS that was for some reason mace smith

sand egret
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like...hmm so this is what it feels like...

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better go one-shot that drinking mage to make myself feel better

exotic spoke
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I was axesmith for arcanite reaper... I wish I went mace then

sand egret
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twas a funny ecosystem

exotic spoke
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Healers ruled one v one. Couldn’t ducking kill them

sand egret
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I had two mages who i bg'd with that would drink back to back because they hated getting rekt

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they were adorable

exotic spoke
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Rofl

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That’s cute

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We’re they gnomes too?

sand egret
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of course

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both male with matching haircuts

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i called them "the twins"

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they were also known as the Artillery because they were the first two mages to snag both the on-use trinkets.

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i'd just sap some poor fuck and they'd just global them

lusty grotto
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that was s3 before we left the team

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of course i got glad s2

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could've gotten it again easy

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ratings weren't inflated as hell back then

stark fox
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What does the actual "Block" value of the shield do for mitigation?

lusty grotto
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Block Damage Reduction = Block value / (Block value + K)

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block value coming from your shield's block value and 2 traits (IF and BFI)

stark fox
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ah rip

lusty grotto
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that's why