Nah but for real. I like both a lot.
#protection
trail dome
oblique garnet
Depending on the seasonal affix pallies might be able to overtake warriors
chilly brook
And tbh no one really cares if talking about other tanks as long as you aren’t distracting from an actual question etc
modern brook
what i like about tanks in wow
is that they all hit a niche that maeks them fun to play in their own right
except vengence
but i did specify tanks so whatever
strong forum
thing is @inland bolt most of the people you see here talking play prot regardless of fotm
modern brook
As someone who only 50% paying attention to 8.2 spoilers
trail dome
Stupid mobile. I’d have gotten at least one of them in on a keyboard.
modern brook
I know they wanted the new S.affix to be singel target oriented
Pallies are the go to for ST damage, imo
trail dome
Honestly I barely played Prot in Legion. But that’s cause I enjoy playing a bunch of tanks and just play what’s best for guild. Or my m+ team.
trail dome
It was good in m+ at the end of legion.
lusty grotto
gz melva!
trail dome
That’s my only experience with vdh really.
chilly brook
I reinstalled....again.....
modern brook
xd idiot
chilly brook
I know
modern brook
griff u dont like wow
lusty grotto
hey man
modern brook
stop spending money on it
sand egret
no surprise
lusty grotto
8.2 is coming and rerollers are hopping off
chilly brook
VDH is fun tho
lusty grotto
;D
lusty grotto
vdh was fun in legion for sure
modern brook
everything was fun in legion*
oblique garnet
@modern brook The nerf to warriors will put us about equal to pallies in ST without the essences which might change alot
chilly brook
Its not like it’ll matter, I’ll be able to play for like a week and then off to my job and traveling so won’t even be able to play until August which means I’m really just reinstalling so I don’t have to install Classic later
trail dome
Fun dps in legion.
sick sentinel
@lusty grotto thanks man
modern brook
@oblique garnet i thought pallies were alerady above us in ST cause of seraphim / Wings
trail dome
Can you play sera?
modern brook
my paladin is level 72
oblique garnet
They are not
modern brook
I dont fucking know 🤷
trail dome
In Legion (last time i played a lot) it was v hard to justify on prog.
Lazel played it in EN but that wasnt a real raid tbf.
modern brook
@oblique garnet when u coming to the bad side of the pond?
I'm trying to dps for a better tank than @lusty grotto
sick sentinel
OH MY GUD PROT NERFED
modern brook
:^)
oblique garnet
NA ? I didnt get the job so hard to say
modern brook
Dang man
sick sentinel
did people cried already
modern brook
sorry to hear
sand egret
no that's Melva
lusty grotto
its ok its ok
modern brook
I hope we get nerfed back to"unplayability"
lusty grotto
i lost my cry count
sick sentinel
idk man as long as i have fun and my class not holding me back giga
modern brook
so i can style on kids again
sick sentinel
i play what i want
lusty grotto
was at 8 before i went to sleep yesterday
modern brook
I just wanna be viable
sand egret
naw totally not viable
sick sentinel
like people cried prot was horrible in antorus and all that but it was great
modern brook
Prot was bad in legion 100% because everything did magic damage
modern brook
with the removal of magic res on tanks
sick sentinel
but for raiding i enjoyed it alot i had okey score
sand egret
^
lusty grotto
not increased focus
the nerfs to magical mitigation
and consequent adjustment of it on content
making physical damage more prevalent
sand egret
ACHTUALLY
trail dome
I was convinced because of that paradigm shift bdk would be insane.
lusty grotto
negative bull!
trail dome
Rip
sick sentinel
idk tho if lets say a class i consider fun is top meta i can play it
like vdh
but if its bdk or guardian
cba
sick sentinel
i hate those classes
trail dome
Bdk is fun. 😠
sand egret
to each their own 😃
modern brook
guardian is fun
sick sentinel
no 😡
modern brook
low key; guardian and resto are the best specs
sand egret
let's not get into "fun" this early
modern brook
because u can play feral
sick sentinel
hahaaha just messing around
modern brook
without having to deal with feral's horse shit
lusty grotto
it's not friday therefore not fun
sick sentinel
but we can all agree prot is best
trail dome
Guardian was fun with luffa and.... whatever the other thing was.
modern brook
being a cat
lusty grotto
boomy leggo?
trail dome
And you’d incarn and pull whole beerhall in hov
sand egret
not gonna lie, I have more fun on my bear than i do on my warrior, currently.
trail dome
Nah that was diff build.
lusty grotto
you still used luffa
modern brook
.> its galactic GUARDIAN
lusty grotto
🤷
modern brook
Lactate and the cape
lusty grotto
🤷
trail dome
Thats it.
sand egret
i miss lazer bear though. I really wish they added a trait to give smart targeting back to moonfire but w/e
trail dome
Lady and the child and cape thingy.
sand egret
yeah, fun times
trail dome
Much better for pushing
But weekly 15? Luffa incarn lets go.
Tbf that’s basically avatar these days.
Spam clap.
But yeah. My plan for next patch is get both prots to 400 ish.
Should be fine to dive in m+ with that.
lusty grotto
yeah
sand egret
tbh, I think overall next patch most tanks will be in a pretty good spot, factoring in the flexibility that Essences bring to the table
so you really won't go wrong, no matter the tank
lusty grotto
entry level for this season as 370 anyway so 400 should be fine
that's never the case blade lol
but we'll see
sand egret
hard disagree but yeah
lusty grotto
curse community perception
i mean lately of course
considering m+ is kinda recent
sand egret
oh, if by "wrong" you mean a label, then yes that stigma will happen
lusty grotto
there has been content where tank picks didn't matter
sand egret
but "wrong" in the genuine sense, no
sand egret
well that's a different conversation 😃
sand egret
I just hate when those two, different, convos get conflated =/
late imp
hey guys need pawn stats for warrior prot any1 can help me thx a lot 😃
sand egret
hmmm
trail dome
Don’t use pawn.
sand egret
that's the better way to put it
lusty grotto
ilvl > all
lusty grotto
no
sand egret
it's built into the default UI
lusty grotto
ilvl > all, go for that
sand egret
check the ilvl stat 😃
trail dome
Literally ilvl. Ilvl = more armour. Armour is good.
late imp
okaaaay
trail dome
Also, secondaries v close.
sand egret
well it's more so that more stats > specific stats
trail dome
Why you hating on armour. More armour is more better.
late imp
okay thx a lot bros !
sand egret
ya don't start to nitpick until it's equal ilvl, then it's a still pretty even with haste taking the top spot
trail dome
Haste > crit if you’re not afraid, otherwise vers.
sand egret
but yeah, gearing is really easy for Prot Spuky
trail dome
But ilvl always.
winter aspen
Not on rings
sand egret
oh hell yeah, I was just informed that someone hooked up Twisted Metal 2 in the office. lata nerds
chilly brook
Not really
Even on rings the argument is still made for ilvl
More stats>”better” stats
sick sentinel
Hi, should i go for 3xDC and 1xBom or 2xDC and 2xBom?
lusty grotto
for what content
sick sentinel
M+
lusty grotto
2fast4u griff
chilly brook
2tru
sick sentinel
So 3xbom and 1xdc would be better?
chilly brook
Yes
lusty grotto
yup
sick sentinel
And for raid?
lusty grotto
for raid? uhh anything with 1x DC, but BoM isn't as good in raid settings as other traits but yes it's in the icy veins guide
lusty grotto
you'll only sim damage
idk if that's specifically what you're interested in for raids
sick sentinel
😉 I am noob, so ill read the guide first nexttime
lusty grotto
if you're a noob
you shouldn't be simming
cause you want defensive options
and simming doesn't give any value to defensiveness
sand egret
^
sick sentinel
I will ask no more and go in guide
sand egret
you should ask more, just do that after seeing if any of those questions are already answered there 😃
warm plinth
Griff 
chilly brook
@sick sentinel nah man feel free to ask, but just recognize that a lot of questions are most likely already answered in the guide 😉
clever oasis
PTR thunderclap nerf again? Down to 30% bonus during spam?
warm plinth
Indeed. Marok already addressed it; it's in the pins my good man
clever oasis
Hahaha. Nice nice. Thanks. Good info. Lol@ dragon roar
carmine ibex
What do you guys think of a 410 rezan's vs a 415 butcher block. I'm at levels of haste now that I feel like extra haste isn't being properly utilized because of inefficient GCD usage on my part (fumbling a cast, awkward latency, etc)
carmine ibex
rezan's is better on paper but I feel like the block is more consistent
lusty grotto
at least?
carmine ibex
of course
lusty grotto
yup yup
carmine ibex
yeah thats what I figured
warm plinth
Why would you need 20% haste before ITF?
carmine ibex
rezans still sims way higher but i just don't feel like it will in the real world
carmine ibex
yeah
that was my thought as well, defensively, haste is really good, but not if I can't properly utilize it
im at 23% haste and 17% crit before ITF/overwhelming power
lusty grotto
haste is always good, but a bit of crit is great as well in M+
so balancing those 2 out is good
ivory barn
https://gyazo.com/b4d15858650626f496d4dee756e27752 oof someone hurt me >.< 😢
warm plinth
That's unfortunate
ivory barn
also im at 410 Ilvl with these stats before ITF https://gyazo.com/f09ea5f17bdbff8becfe768b34ce9e56
lusty grotto
okay?
carmine ibex
I just got the last piece I needed for 3BoM+ 3DC
so I'm gunna go full mongo this week
ivory barn
what would you recommend changing around stat wise?
warm plinth
What's with the 20% haste before ITF thing? Seen that a few times lately and I'm not understanding it.
Nothing. If it's your highest ilevel stuff, you're doing it right.
ivory barn
so even if you have like no haste but you have a 425 ilvl you are still considered good?
exotic spoke
I mean, I had a screenshot of me being off from next level of azerite at the end of the week by 1 AP
exotic spoke
@ivory barn stats don’t say if you’re good or not. It’s certainly not optimal - but it’s fine if that’s your highest ilvl.
Our stats are all very close in terms of what they give us. So much so that more stats are better than fewer better stats
Ideally, yes, you want haste. But you don’t want to sacrifice Ilvl
ivory barn
and gem/enchant haste? I've gemmed Crit >.<
sick sentinel
🤔
ivory barn
according to Icyveins
exotic spoke
Do you do mostly m+ or mostly raids
lusty grotto
icy veins certainly doesn't say gem crit
ivory barn
M+
lusty grotto
so you're kinda wrong there
exotic spoke
Do you need survivability?
warm plinth
If you're doing primarily M+ it's not a bad idea to gem crit if you don't need more survival.
Since crit gets way better in AoE
ivory barn
it doesnt say gem crit, i've came from fury where you crave crit
exotic spoke
^^ what ghash said - but that’s because it’s a powerful dps stat with some nice survivability
Ahh ok that makes sense
sick sentinel
Crit is good after the 20-22% haste mark
warm plinth
Where is this 20-22% haste mark coming from
sick sentinel
General experience
warm plinth
??? So feelycraft?
exotic spoke
So, if you don’t need survivability then you tend to focus on dps - which is where crit comes into play. It also gives parry which is nice - and due to how randomness works - volume makes it more reliable
Rads the key point is that’s where it worked for you. It’ll be slightly different for everyone.
Anyway, off to meetings - cya all last
Later*
sick sentinel
Your main tool in m+ is TC
lusty grotto
this is why i usually don't repeat the 20% thing, because people take it like they should be doing it without knowing the details
undone sun
crit is good, but it doesn't matter after what point
sick sentinel
Can that be off CD? Not really. It's always every 2nd GCD meaning stacking haste will not get it off CD unless you gain immense amount of haste, which is not possible at this point. So why sacrifice better stats for a stat that has done it's part.
warm plinth
Except haste doesn't only reduce the cooldown of Thunder Clap
sick sentinel
True, but what do you prioritize in m+
lusty grotto
for M+ you take ilvl > haste = crit > everything else, just about
potent anvil
Getting 200% haste is possible through haste procs/trinkets with or maybe without lust making TC every GCD. So there's that.
lusty grotto
so its not bad to balance both haste and crit depending on your need
and only if you understand what each of them bring and under what circumstances
oblique garnet
@potent anvil Got the weapon finally 
potent anvil
@oblique garnet
warm plinth
Haste also increases rage generation and reduces the CDs of most of our rotational abilities, and indirectly (through the increased rage generation and AM) decreases CDs of Avatar, Demo Shout, Last Stand, and Shield Wall.
warm plinth
Deswind are you still 4 425s away?
potent anvil
Depends if a 19 is your current key limit, but at this point people should generally be geared enough to survive.
solar delta
I've never actually done it
potent anvil
Yes, unfortunately Ghash. 🙁
warm plinth
😦
solar delta
Mainly for second boss yeah/>
solar delta
or first boss should I just be randomly safeguardiaing one of the melee?
potent anvil
First boss, you use a @targettarget macro. Or @mouseover if you're quick on the reflex.
You safeguard p2 of first boss, when he picks someone for azerite powdershot.
Primarily the melee.
solar delta
I thought first boss was random where he shoots and second boss is where you focus target and watch for the change of target?
oblique garnet
Range dps and healers can just use the pillar under the house to never get hit by them
solar delta
Yaeh it's triple melee pepe
unborn island
Won't safeguarding the first boss like...kill you? Surely you would get hit fully by the shot too?
I haven't done one high enough for it to be an issue, just a thought
potent anvil
Safeguard at minimum range that doesnt move you aka melee needs to be tight, but spread enough to not hit each other from the ability's arc.
potent anvil
It's very difficult, possibly not doable, with 3 melee, since well, someone is gonna overlap.
unborn island
I manage Eudora, do I'll stick with that
potent anvil
That's why you use an @targettarget macro. You mash it until he picks a target.
warm plinth
Yeah, since you can't intercept yourself, it takes the thinking out of it
potent anvil
Assuming range and healer are far away for you not to intercept. Otherwise, that would kill you.
carmine ibex
Eudora's is a ranged attack and it's blockable, I don't think Kragg's is blockable
unborn island
Macro it to all abilities
carmine ibex
better of positioning to avoid doubles than safeguarding
every healer can deal with kragg as long as it's not overlapping
potent anvil
We're talking about p2 of the fight, not p1.
potent anvil
If you're not prepared for it as a melee, yeah.
carmine ibex
not until 22 or 23 minimum
20-21 tyr is not a oneshot on anyone, esp if you have some resoundings or something
unborn island
Fair enough, guess beyond that it's 'use a stamina flask' territory?
carmine ibex
and kraggs is aoe, meaning if you fuck up the safeguard you might just kill yourself
potent anvil
Well, can't assume that. But I suppose most people would be grouping with others they trust anyway at that point.
unborn island
Yeah, got that
carmine ibex
i.e. you safegard 0-.5 sec too late, and then take the hit, and 30% of their hit
and you die
where eudora is interveneable, you don't need safeguard
you take is instead
potent anvil
That's why positioning is key. It's like a tight "T" formation.
carmine ibex
yep ^
kragg is all about positioning
take crackling thunder in FH , nothing needs safeguard
unborn island
Last time I did it,the ranged dude stood outside
carmine ibex
and there's lots of big pulls
unborn island
Meaning every fucking poop landed on the melee
lusty grotto
you can have your heals bait it
just make him follow the parrot
he shoots it a whoever is closest to it
carmine ibex
yeah its rough in melee, our healer stopped standing out
lusty grotto
doesnt have to be right on its nuts but closer than other people
carmine ibex
cause a melee poop + shot combo can kill
lusty grotto
yup
carmine ibex
better off letting the healer take the chip damage from poop and heal it thru leech and shit
kragg is the hardest boss in there on high tyr
so unforgiving
euroda is a joke with intervene, tartgettarget marco, anytime I see someone <60% hp I just hit it and totally negate the mechanic since it's blockable
exotic spoke
Healer is dps imo 😃
carmine ibex
and i only do it on melee if there is a reasonable chance of them dying
exotic spoke
Kitty dps is best dps (I know rsham dps is best dps)
carmine ibex
and like this week, if I intervene the healer , i might not have the time to check to makr ssure there's not one of those jolly swords between us or something
coral jasper
i ahte seeing healers not dps i haaaate it so bad
carmine ibex
its a quick reaction thing
so I only do it on melee so as not to fly all over the place and fuck up positioning/take extra damage
pillar humping is so easy for ranged
they lose very little uptime
exotic spoke
I tend to not pug. So my rdruid and I are pretty comfortably with each other.
Did UR 19 last night. He died on second boss - I said I’m pulling after I eat and he’s running back
Our dps were like - no healer.
carmine ibex
also, have any of you guys been dragging Raul with you after the event?
exotic spoke
Psch.... it’s all physical
coral jasper
yeah its a great benefit nev
exotic spoke
No? Didn’t know you could
coral jasper
not this week maybe bc of necrotic
carmine ibex
Yeah, I actually styumbled across it by accident
and I was liike holy shit
and then I realized people already knew about it
carmine ibex
yeah, the first time I noticed it, I brought him all the way to turtle
coral jasper
not only raaul that it works w btw
exotic spoke
How do you keep him with you?
carmine ibex
but I did it on my DID prot paladin with like 13412341 ways to drop necro
coral jasper
can use a hunters pet on the training dummies if you want
exotic spoke
Interesting.
carmine ibex
so might be a little more harrowing on the warrior
coral jasper
and itll keep him in combat
carmine ibex
I've never done it with eudora or jolly
exotic spoke
I mean - necrotic doesn’t hurt us that badly
I don’t really care in most cases until 30 stacks
carmine ibex
I've been running with a WW lately too for ring
super nice
and a ret paladin for a bop cancel
and I'm DID
exotic spoke
Hit 70 stacks last night before I started kiting
carmine ibex
at what key level
exotic spoke
19
carmine ibex
oof
coral jasper
not bad on warriors either
exotic spoke
TOS gauntlet. Was a joke lol
coral jasper
nice absorb
coral jasper
i got to 99 on tos gaunt
exotic spoke
Absorbs are blah this week. Don’t use my diamond at all
exotic spoke
That was after I got to 50 and used DiD
carmine ibex
been doing alch stone and block
i've got tons of opulence kils on my warrior too and still don't have a 415 diamond, I've got 2 415 diamonds on my BDK and prot paladin
who each have 1/5th the kills of the warrior
clever oasis
For like raid, what do you guys use for traits. I like got 3 bloodsport. 1 each of DC BM brace for impact.
exotic spoke
Bloodsport is blah imo
carmine ibex
1 BoM 1 Tc, and multiple BFIs if you're actually progressing passed 6/9M
if you're doing earlier bosses than just do basically whatever tbh
I use m+ gear
3BoM and 2-3xTCs just to pump on the damage meters
exotic spoke
@carmine ibex we’ve seen 3 diamonds in 12 kills and dps have started loot specking tank because just going
exotic spoke
Personally, for mythic - I use 3 BoM, 1 DC and two defensive (usually 1 BfI and 1 IF because I never got a second BfI)
carmine ibex
yeah I mean it's good on some fights too
lusty grotto
Yeah
carmine ibex
i don't think it is as bad as people rag on it
I've used it lots
and when you have 2 of them it feels very good to push IP
even if it's not as good on paper
but I admit it's total feelycraft
lusty grotto
It's not bad, but there are def better
carmine ibex
nevertheless I still have a 3BoM 2xBS 1xTC set that I run a lot
exotic spoke
I honestly don’t like bloodsport.
lusty grotto
People confuse that by thinking it's bad
carmine ibex
it's situational
exotic spoke
The IP gain and leech are blah usually.
But that’s personal preference
lusty grotto
soaking blockades for example
carmine ibex
2x bloodsport on 19tyr ML, or on fortified shrine is (or just feels) awesome imo
lusty grotto
Sometimes you just don't have the roster options Riki
neon tangle
@exotic spoke my new guild has a frost and blood DK
exotic spoke
Sounds like a nimchy problem
neon tangle
I think I might be safe
exotic spoke
Oh!? What are you playing now - still dk sadbox?
neon tangle
rogue!
neon tangle
who doesn't like rogues?
exotic spoke
They are sneaky and underhanded
exotic spoke
But you don’t protec
neon tangle
I leave that to the baer boi
exotic spoke
Aussie Aussie Aussie
Oi! Oi! Oi
chilly brook
Do I take a nap or nah?
modern brook
dude
I saw a forsaken warrior the other day
I asked him why he hated his mother so much but he just walked away
chilly brook
Lul
modern brook
smh
chilly brook
I saw a forsaken warrior yesterday too his name was Preach and I cried watching him play
vocal skiff
I used to play forsaken warrior, but then it was originally an RP character
When zandalari came, and I was no longer that invested in RP, I switched to it
neon tangle
I just play whatever fits the class, e.g. troll shammy, orc/forsaken warrior, forsaken dk/rogue
ivory barn
I think this upcoming M+ season ima soloy focus on tanking
and dont do any fury unless I absolutly have to
sick sentinel
Hello😊quick question, how do we heal our selfs. I have only like 5k hps and i use ignore Pain effectively
hard tendon
make friends with a healer
sick sentinel
I see, that on reaping are warrior capable of 20 hps, just i do not know if is it with trait or how
lusty grotto
our class isnt self reliant, youre interpreting that wrong
warm plinth
Ignore Pain is an absorb that is tracked as a heal (as most absorbs are). You're not actually healing with it.
sick sentinel
I watch few vids of sense nurfed warrior and hes healing him self quite nice
or absorbing as you said
warm plinth
Could be a lot of things. Impassive Visage, Resounding Protection, Diamond-Laced Refracting Prism, Ignore Pain, Last Stand, Rallying Cry, etc. etc.
Likely a combination of things
carmine ibex
rallying doesn't count as a heal
fluid sun
You can also get quite a few Victory Rush procs during reap
carmine ibex
Yes.
fluid sun
That helps a ton
lusty grotto
yeah quite a lot of them actually
warm plinth
Yeah it's a combination, but not one you should strive to achieve. We mitigate so much damage that we don't need to self-heal.
carmine ibex
impassive visage, resounding protection, diamond prisim all contribute a lot to healing meters
^
dont bother chasing hps
sick sentinel
Right, thanks
carmine ibex
yeah you can basically VR every other GCD if you want
steady hawk
TC > VR alternating has saved my hide many times
lunar spade
Winds of war or overwhelmign power ? For survi.
undone sun
OP
tulip panther
sleep for sanity
tulip panther
fair enough
like, i sleep like 5hours a day, an im from EU and yet you are always online 😡
undone sun
i can easily operate on 3-4 hours
livid mauve
Sorry if it's been asked before, but does the shield block from bolster count for buffing slam damage?
undone sun
no
livid mauve
bummer
tulip panther
yo, we have a Techies-main, quick, ban him
livid mauve
I don't play them, I just appreciate what they're about
tulip panther
oof
soo...this weeks free for prot warriors,since you cant get bled when you block ?
lusty grotto
huh?!?
final mist
That’s
undone sun
no...
final mist
Not how necrotic works
tulip panther
but i was told 2 days ago that you cant get bled if you block the attack
tulip panther
bleed, bled ?
lusty grotto
who told you this
you can't avoid bleeds with block
you can parry very specific ones
like KR's
block doesn't make you immune to their application
tulip panther
oh nvm it was parry, herpderp
warm plinth
You can parry or dodge the application of any bleed triggered by an auto attack. But yeah, you still take the hit on a block so you still get the bleed.
zinc rose
Does the opulence shield have to break completely to regenerate?
distant crystal
ye
i've heard a few tanks saying they "blocked" a bleed, i think it's really just a syntax thing
they parried the attack and "blocked" the bleed
distant crystal
just stand in the coinstack 4head
lusty grotto
lmao
tulip panther
cant get broken if you dont have the trinket 😎
sand egret
to be fair, only 2 of the tanks actually have use of the term "block" anyway 😃
tulip panther
oh that one lul
lusty grotto
i mean yeah you can do that
tulip panther
i should take less drungs
modern brook
My guild is still bashing against M Oppu
I say "still" as if its been a long time
M prog was on hold for a while
lusty grotto
i mean, its one of the hard fights
modern brook
yeah
ITs been i think 4 weeks if they cant down it today
which is on par with like actual prog
just ~40 ilvls higher than it :^(
distant crystal
opulence took us more pulls on reclear than mekka
kek
but not more than stormwall
modern brook
I learned i hate prog raiding
It might be just how fucking brain dead tanking is
but wiping for 3 hours due to everyone else's mistakes
just aint fun
reclearing is fun
:^)
distant crystal
when we were doing opulence i'd play great for like 2.5 hours of progress and then i'd join the inters toward the end xd
but i raid on spriest mostly, not warr
near ivy
yo @distant crystal
near ivy
distant crystal
where's the link
distant crystal
damn a mage would prob never equip that
tulip panther
100k is almost half months sub Pog
distant crystal
i think that prob means i'm wrong but it's still not an armory link 😮
but it's only a matter of time now
warm plinth
It's most of a month's sub in NA :p
tulip panther
no 🙂 no dumb questions
near ivy
you cant buy from AH and resell on AH
distant crystal
you can buy them with money and resell them with gold
near ivy
no
lusty grotto
but just to be sure
distant crystal
but no, not what you're thinking
lusty grotto
yeah
warm plinth
Can't play the token market :p
distant crystal
i feel like with the specific wording of the bet i gotta hold out, and pay the person that gives me the armory link
tulip panther
mounts 😎
near ivy
@alpine shard
can you get your guildy to equip that ring
so we can get an armory link
lusty grotto
i already do that :p
near ivy
since people dont want to bet in good faith
lusty grotto
got 2 yetis on xmas, sold them for mucho gold a few weeks ago
distant crystal
the bet wasn't that the cap is 395, it was a bounty on an armory link :p
near ivy
thats bad faith and you know it
distant crystal
but now that i see that it's time to start jumping in M uldir pugs to get my priest a xalzaix
near ivy
you are just delaying
tulip panther
400 Xalzaix on a shadow would be dope
distant crystal
i mean, it would be kinda unfair to whoever it was that posted the wowdevs saying that old content could forge beyond it's original cap
if i gave it to you and not them
tulip panther
they never said such a thing
distant crystal
they posted a tweet
tulip panther
lol when
near ivy
your not giving to me
distant crystal
saying that M crucible says 425+ because it can forge beyond next season
near ivy
your not giving to the guy who even found the link
we are all on EU
im not doing this for gold
im doing it for principle
tulip panther
ofc everythin can forge beyond any caps when the max cap gets risen
distant crystal
that was the discussion
alpine shard
@near ivy no
lusty grotto
well there you have it
alpine shard
he knows he's wrong i cba
tulip panther
@distant crystal howabout the 425 conc from NORMAL DUNGEON that the lock has, does that count, its still TF
warm plinth
Wouldn't it be 400? I thought Mythic Uldir drops 385 base; wouldn't titanforge be 400?
near ivy
titanforge is 15 or more
lusty grotto
if you were expecting someone from discord to pay 100k, do i have to remind you that this is the internet?
warm plinth
Yeah I was just wondering why Waat said greater than 395
empty inlet
Why would you farm uldir drop they're trash
warm plinth
Instead of greater than 400
near ivy
have you heard of syringe
distant crystal
395 was the cap when uldir was current
warm plinth
Ah okay
tulip panther
was
lusty grotto
playing the skillforge game ugh
distant crystal
and tentacle of xalzaix is amazing for any caster/healer that likes crit
lusty grotto
🤢
tulip panther
@lusty grotto why play the skillforge when you can just loot a 425 trinket from 120lvl normal dungeon 😎
near ivy
syringe is better for fury that every other trinket even when 15 ilvls lower
other than lurkers
which is our second trinket
a 385 syringe = a 400 block
distant crystal
idk man dat first mate's spyglass
:p
probably easier to get a forged syringe than a high forged spyglass tho
near ivy
or slightly > 400 block
lusty grotto
running normal dungeons IS playing skillforge game
why the fuck do i wanna do it for a chance of rng, it's not fun
empty inlet
Imagine trying to titan forge uldir trinket and not dungeon trinket
tulip panther
^
distant crystal
a 20-25 ilvl forge is far more likely than a 60 ilvl forge
near ivy
it takes 25 min
near ivy
and we have >15 warriors every time
lusty grotto
sounds stupid
near ivy
we have fun doing it
lusty grotto
but you do what you feel is fun
near ivy
and people have gotten upgrades doing it
lusty grotto
🤷
distant crystal
it also functions as a mog run
distant crystal
you're still gonna get some mogs :p
near ivy
it functions as a mog run for helm legs chest wrist and belt
distant crystal
and 2h mace :p
lusty grotto
point it who cares
sick sentinel
20 mins to reach vectis and 20 mins to actually kill him :)))
near ivy
@sick sentinel are you seeing this shit
lusty grotto
its boring lmao
empty inlet
I wish there is old item like rogues off hand :)
lusty grotto
why are we even talking about running uldir
near ivy
if it wasnt nobody would fucking do it
lusty grotto
that's subjective
near ivy
because a bet was made
sick sentinel
it's fun
near ivy
its boring is also subjective
lusty grotto
not saying it isn't
sick sentinel
what happened
near ivy
then why say that my statement is
last mason
@near ivy are you guys horde
near ivy
EU horde
sick sentinel
EU horde
last mason
Dam
distant crystal
i gotta set 100K aside in escrow :p
last mason
weekly syringe run sounds fun
sick sentinel
IT IS fun
sick sentinel
nip we do silly shit
tulip panther
fun and Uldir dont check out 😢
distant crystal
i feel like i should get a custom rank on the discord "low iq bet payor" or something
sick sentinel
you guys are too negative
last mason
I have a 390 but it’s meh
distant crystal
when i pay it
near ivy
@distant crystal if we are playing the "it only counts if i see it on armory game" we now know that we win the bet eventually
distant crystal
yes
distant crystal
if we play any other game it's unfair that i pay you and not the guy who linked the wowdevs, sorta
sick sentinel
I wanna post the link but it's my own vid and I don't wanna get hit by the #promotion
tulip panther
still seeing some dumb boe titanforges from Uldir wich are actually legit
near ivy
just post it
distant crystal
just come to NA ez
near ivy
in #promotion
lusty grotto
i gotta be honest
tulip panther
"warriors"
near ivy
tulip panther
tbf we still have 2 rets on our guild that rock 385 syringe, is the syringe so good, or are the other trinkets so garbo 🤔
near ivy
both
sick sentinel
and a 400+s rezans
tulip panther
vial PepeLaugh Rezan PepeLaugh
sick sentinel
What's syringe
tulip panther
a myth
distant crystal
it's basically like a str deadeye spyglass
near ivy
@sick sentinel
lusty grotto
it is
distant crystal
it is, prob not as good as it is for fury
lusty grotto
but not at that ilvl
near ivy
yes at that ilvl
lusty grotto
prot
near ivy
the ilvl of it doesnt change much
distant crystal
it changes the str mostly
sick sentinel
I run a 385+s syringe and a 400+s goreblock
sick sentinel
with crit gems
sick sentinel
Syringe sucks
near ivy
............
tulip panther
LFM ULDIR MYTHIC
sick sentinel
we do it because it's fun
and we are all fury mains
and it's really good for fury
distant crystal
i'll heal it but we gotta go all the way to mythrax
tulip panther
@sick sentinel its the lesser damage version of protection 🙂
oblique garnet
Syringe is good
oblique garnet
I didnt bother with it since i thought it couldnt titanforge higher
Might have to actually join the uldir runs
sick sentinel
lmao
tulip panther
?!
oblique garnet
Yes
near ivy
sick sentinel
@near ivy late runs mplus with me
oblique garnet
I multi class
near ivy
so we arent doing 5x prot
sick sentinel
wdym late is an ele shaman
tulip panther
i thought that the "uldir cant titanforge beyond x point" was NA only :/
distant crystal
oh true need proof of it forging in NA
near ivy
No.
distant crystal
💩
tulip panther
oh you scummy motherf 😎
near ivy
that was not a part of the bet
distant crystal
i know it's yokes
man what if i get a forged syringe myself and i'm the first with an armory link 🤔
near ivy
"100K gold on sargeras for anybody that can get me an armory link of >395 uldir gear"
ANYBODY
with no limit on the amount of people
so, if 1 person gets the link
distant crystal
no
tulip panther
rob that man
near ivy
if you want to play by the book
tulip panther
just out of principle
lusty grotto
lmao
distant crystal
ok ok
tulip panther
SKIN EM DRY
lusty grotto
deal didn't exist
it's the internet
deal with it
you're good by me Waat
this is why click baiting works
near ivy
ability to flex epeen on this discord is gone forever
distant crystal
jokes on you
tulip panther
legit didnt know that there was ppl with that impression that uldir cant tf. guess you can learn new things every day
tulip panther
naisuu.. the new Wonder Woman movie has a release date
strong forum
finally a decent rasta log.
but still scuffed cuz i died like 20seconds before kill
sick sentinel
unluck I guess
sick sentinel
you need to P A D
distant crystal
if you kill the adds in the up phase
do they disappear when down phase ends or
do they come back up so you can kill em again
strong forum
i think theyll come back up in p3 no?
distant crystal
that's the pad play then eh
strong forum
or you have to min max like crazy and dont kill em
only get em low
or idk
just kill em twice / thrice i guess
for ultra pad
have to unjust my mekka/stormwall/jaina logs though
atomic isle
for this week in m+ around 14-16 key level. what trinkets should i use. Vial of animated blood(400) Diamond barrier(400) Alch stone(415) Rezans gleeming eye(405w/socket) gore crusted butchers block(400) Jes Howler'(400).
warm plinth
Alc stone and Rezan's
lusty grotto
any combination of butcher block, rezan and alch
stone cloud
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/94VYkeB6MzgsafvkxKPBAm good god it’s large
Atleast I think 🤔
warm plinth
I'm curious how those leggings sim. I imagine that it's with the maximum proc rate since you don't take real damage in sims.
stone cloud
I wear them on my Prot pally in mythic and they do like 600-1000DPS
Which is quite a bit
I’d imagine they do more in war
Since 100% block ect ect
stone cloud
Thus the patchwerk sim...
warm plinth
Yeah you gotta be stupid specific in #protection, lest people assume what you say is gospel 100.01% of the time.
exotic spoke
Phew - I can trust kaege’s opinion again - he doesn’t have an anime profile
lusty grotto
nope thats pretty much still anime like
exotic spoke
Oh damnit
exotic spoke
Not saying it isn’t - just saying you can’t believe peopleqith anime avatars
lusty grotto
ill just listen to kaege back when he has re-equipped his testicles
☑
im sorry kaege
sick sentinel
sick sentinel
I am aware
mortal sentinel
Yo guys
does anybody knows
if the logging out and in method to get the hidden appearence for prot warriors
still works ?
lusty grotto
no
it hasn't worked since a week after the hidden appearance was put in
so since legion
it's daily
mortal sentinel
fk that
lusty grotto
🤷
sudden spade
Is there anything as too much haste? im currently on 1.4k haste - mainly doing m+
spice ferry
are you sacrificing ilvl for it
sudden spade
No, it was more about switcing out gems for something else
oblique garnet
thats his haste rating not %
lusty grotto
oh whoops
sudden spade
1.4k haste is 20.74% without ITF
lusty grotto
that's fine
onyx vessel
Is having 18% mastery bad
onyx vessel
Got a whole 293 mastery rating
thorny bobcat
do we still ignore everything that doesnt have gemhide ? or its nerfed
sick sentinel
when did we ever go for gemhide
onyx vessel
I mean gemhide is a amazing trait but not worth more then 5 ilvl
onyx vessel
Str is king more tclap dmg
thorny bobcat
not sure if that was the case in the first raid
stone cloud
IV >>>>> GH
onyx vessel
Fuck surv
stone cloud
And actually str is not king for dps
oblique garnet
it was not the case even in the first raid
onyx vessel
Blame healer
lusty grotto
uh huh
stone cloud
“Blame healer” wonders why sub 500io
lusty grotto
nah
stone cloud
XD
onyx vessel
Im like 600
lusty grotto
healers can't do shit about inc damage
onyx vessel
Fuck ye
lusty grotto
except maybe disc, but who takes a disc priest
stone cloud
Everyone in S3
stone cloud
No date yet
lusty grotto
are we blizzard?
onyx vessel
Fuckin blizzard
lusty grotto
indeed
onyx vessel
Next year prob