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inland bolt
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idk about making the dungeon go faster lol

sick sentinel
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jes is good if you have a group

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imo for pugs i dont use it

oblique garnet
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I wouldnt use it even if i have a group imo

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2 min cd makes it clunky to usw

sick sentinel
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well i have 425 version so

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i even use it as small defensive cd sometimes

oblique garnet
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I see

strong forum
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I was always off-put by the 2min CD

stiff oracle
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dont use jes howler

strong forum
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Never have

zinc garnet
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i'm also stuck with the 425 Jes and everything else at 400

strong forum
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That's a yikes

sick sentinel
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why not use jes

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🤔

oblique garnet
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At 425 jes will probably be good

willow scarab
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The only reason a 425 jes is good is because it buffs your ilvl so you feel stronger and that mentality makes you stronger

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Other than that just shard it

edgy crag
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anyone got a list of the best talents for prot

sweet kettle
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check the guides?

edgy crag
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thats always an idea ey

opal mesa
sweet kettle
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not 415

opal mesa
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lol im losing 50% of my block value with these traits

unborn island
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Anyone seen the change to the feral/moonkin PVP essence? Looks like that would be ridiculous to cast on the tank during a big pull if it does what it says on the tin

opal mesa
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maybe blightborne infustion?

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the proc is about 5% additional chance to parry

ionic fern
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I'd take blightborne over Revenge.

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@opal mesa

opal mesa
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dang man im losing both iron fortresses and brace for impact with these rearrangements

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literally cutting my block in half

oblique garnet
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@unborn island Thorns is an ability that has been in the game for a long time

strong forum
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Ye looks good like that @opal mesa

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Well actually on chest you want BoM instead of TC

opal mesa
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surely 360 mainstat 100% of the time is better than 580 mastery40%~ of the time?

oblique garnet
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its not

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for m+

sick sentinel
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bom greatly increases your dmg during your cooldown

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also its mastery, no?

oblique garnet
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yes

opal mesa
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i mean

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the other thing greatly increases my damage by more and more often

oblique garnet
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not really

strong forum
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The thing with BoM is it up scales more

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With 3x BoM your TC does 3x the dmg inside Avatar instead of only 2x

opal mesa
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well this azerite ranking thingi says it does but im simming it right now

strong forum
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TC is more ST dps

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BoM is more aoe dps

opal mesa
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im looking at aoe

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its the highest rated dps trait

oblique garnet
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bastion also provides you with more defensive value than tc

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which in m+ situation allows you to stay in longer

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and results in more dps

willow scarab
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TC is pretty much exclusively for ST parsing

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It adds around 1% parry for each 420 TC trait you have

opal mesa
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alright sims finished

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tc scores highest for single target and hectic cleave

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but guess ill get bastion for the extra block

unborn island
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I get that Thorns has been in the game for a long time, but reading the text, if you slapped it on the tank in a high M+ it would be an insane damage CD, as it's based off attacker HP and triggers on every melee hit for 12s? Am I missing something?

oblique garnet
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yes it is insane

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it has always been ridiculous

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I dont think even those changes will go through as they are now

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at this point i dont believe blizzards design team has anyone competent working there

opal mesa
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globules or earthlink?

willow scarab
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globules

inland bolt
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lol is someone still arguing that jes is viable in m+?

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if you dont have any other trinkets in your bag then go for it lol, otherwise pls scrap

old zephyr
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VIABLE

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*triggered *

stiff oracle
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I wouldnt take shawruss' advice he doesnt do high keys (6+)

oblique garnet
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he also argued for ravager

unborn island
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oh god not this again

inland bolt
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i do my weekly 15 what u mean

stiff oracle
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yea this guy doesnt know what he's talking about, he only does M+1 to M+5 keys

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high key players only (600+ io)

unborn island
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I did an 18 once, does that make me pro?

stiff oracle
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very

final mist
inland bolt
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i dont think i ever said ravager was better than AM tho, i just said it was viable during necrotic

willow scarab
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Why someone gotta bring up Ravager every time you post

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and rainons go back to dreamgrove

inland bolt
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cause people like mob mentality in this discord 😦

final mist
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To be fair, saying Ravager is good for any scenario sort of nukes your credibility.

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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They could certainly be less venomous, however.

olive merlin
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Anyone using the engineering helm over another helm that has BoM for m+? Trying to decide if I should keep the eng helm or get one with BoM instead

strong forum
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Eng Helm is top 3

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Abyssal malevolence or sea brawler are the only other better helmets AFAIK

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For m+

inland bolt
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go for one with BOM

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youre shooting yourself in the foot without 3 BOMs in m+

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defensively and offensively

stiff oracle
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smh Id hate to nuke my credibility in this discord

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😦

inland bolt
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and metaphorically and lyrically

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but yeah, 100% replace the engi helm when you can

olive merlin
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I'm running world enlarger and absorbotron on the eng helm

inland bolt
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think about it

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all it has is DC or bloodsport

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and the other trait just gives haste

olive merlin
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I'm sitting on 4800 or so titan residuum.. debating.. hold out to buy the 7k guaranteed bom or random it fir chest and helm. I'll need 2

strong forum
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Bombs trait does 4% overall dmg in dungeons

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Haste trait is okay

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Bombs is literal 1k dps

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Ontop of having OP

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If you want to ultra min max get one of the 2 I mentioned, but if you don't care that much save it up for s3 cuz s2 is basically over

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And rolling random > specific

sick sentinel
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I don't like bombs

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Gismo is just way too good

unborn island
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@olive merlin at this point I'd just save Azerite for next patch, but that's just my opinion, the biggest advantage it's likely to give you is 1 week

strong forum
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Gismo is fine, bombs Is fun and strong too

sick sentinel
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Bombs are the opposite of fun

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They proc on hc throw

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Or charge

strong forum
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They can proc of being in combat

sick sentinel
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Or on literally the furthest target my tclap hits

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And hit the floor most of the time

willow scarab
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Engi helm is pre bom/dc/X BiS

sick sentinel
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They break cc as well

willow scarab
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It's really strong but it's not the best helm of the tier

strong forum
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Still does 1-1.5k overall dps

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Haven't seen it ever break cc cuz we don't cc :^)

sick sentinel
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...

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Bolstering

strong forum
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🤷 can't remember if I played engi Helm

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I have sea brawler now so I'm no longer using it

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For couple weeks now

sick sentinel
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I was using eng helm until last week

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Where I got jadefire

strong forum
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Lamo

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That's late

sick sentinel
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It's the 3rd one I loot

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Had to trade first 2 away

strong forum
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yikes

sick sentinel
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Becuase prot is off-spec

strong forum
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Imagine having loot council

sick sentinel
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I raid as fury

strong forum
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Free for all baby

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All the way

sick sentinel
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I like loot council

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When they have to trade me loot

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I got deathbound this way

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On my first rasta kill

strong forum
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Na we don't do any of that, everyone can decide on their own if they wanna trade or be a jew

sick sentinel
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90% of the time

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If the guy that loots the item needs it for main spec

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As in

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The spec he raids with

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He gets to keep it

strong forum
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Have you checked out next tiers loot? Fucking trash after 2nd boss

sick sentinel
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I will care about the next patch

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1 week before the patch

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maybe 2 weeks

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I don't really give a shit rn

strong forum
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There's like 1 item per boss after 2nd that's hardly useful

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Ye kinda same but I got pressured into by friend

sick sentinel
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Thing about next patch

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If the crit essence is bis for fury

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Unrelenting force or whatever

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I'm gonna be fucked

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Becuasr rn, both specs want haste/crit

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Vers is eh and mastery is alright

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If unrelenting is good I'll fucking REEE

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Because then fury will play with 0crit

strong forum
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Isn't like haste mastery better for fury, or was that pvp only

sick sentinel
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That was uldir

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Now you go a healthy amount of haste

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And then Stack the shit out of crit

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Same as prot basically

willow scarab
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Where did you find a list of loot per boss for next raid

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Full BiS from first 2 bosses sounds absolutely mint to me

strong forum
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Not full bis

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But the loot after 2nd or so doesn't have any haste

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And azerite isn't included yet

sick sentinel
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Just go full mastery, ez

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100% mastery with bom

strong forum
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And there's only 2 haste rings, 1 is from azshara so gl getting that

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so you gonna need a fuck ton of m+ gear

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But 1st boss has literally 4 really good items

sick sentinel
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Just spam mplus

strong forum
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Loot table can be found on ptr.wowhead BTW

sick sentinel
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@strong forum just get titanforges from mplus :)))

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Also, in class rn, what bosses drop a shield?

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Only raiding gear that actually matters are azerite, trinkets and weapons

strong forum
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Ye I think 2nd or 3rd

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And then like 5th of 6th boss has the 5% sac shield

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I think there were 3 shields

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But i only glimpsed over it

sick sentinel
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The 5% shield shield

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Is only good with vers

strong forum
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Ye 5% sac for shield shield

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Kinda pointless

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Tbh

sick sentinel
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Like imagine

strong forum
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Especially m+

sick sentinel
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Having 20% vers

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Suc 5% of health

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Get a 6% shield

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That's how it works, right?

strong forum
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That could work I suppose

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But it's for the sacced amount

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I assume

sick sentinel
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It can be like uunat trink

strong forum
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So no cheese besides stam potion / rsham

sick sentinel
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Where it double dips from vers

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Damage scales from vers and heal also does

strong forum
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Breh stam food + flask + shaman

sick sentinel
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So like you do 100k damage and you heal 275% of that damage (with 10% vers) or something

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We will see

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Testing shall be done

strong forum
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Commence testing!

sick sentinel
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Imagine getting that shield and stacking vers

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And leech

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Lmao

strong forum
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Legion here we come

cobalt trellis
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leechion?

sick sentinel
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I didn't tank in legion I just memed with antorus set bonus in heroic alt runs

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Didn't you go avoidance for argus?

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And 100% mastery

ancient tartan
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Hey hoping to get some opinions on which two trinkets should I go with? Heres what I have available:
400 diamond prism
400 butcher's block
400 vial with socket
405 vial
400 rezans
425 briny barnacle

strong forum
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Butcher + rezan for m+

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Rezan + diamond for raiding

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Imo

sick sentinel
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I agree with nome

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Even though vial has a hole

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And I would test that barnacle

sand condor
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that barnacle

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dayum

sick sentinel
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Barnacle sims good in st 🤷

ancient tartan
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Yea I've had a mental block against not using the barnacle Haha but I'll sim them and see what happens. Thanks

exotic spoke
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Imagine if that barnacle was vial, butchers, rezan or something else

sick sentinel
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Or sporepods lmao

oblique garnet
willow scarab
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Imagine not having a 425 since April

oblique garnet
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imagine getting it on a dk

weary thorn
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imagine playing dk

oblique garnet
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i have to incase its needed in raid 😦

weary thorn
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mood

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I've had to raid on my dk last two weeks in prep for mekkadork

willow scarab
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owned

weary thorn
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its painful

willow scarab
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I'm slowly working on a bear and dh for 8.2

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just incase giga buff

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and timewalking is fast

sick sentinel
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@oblique garnet DUDE

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FUCK REZANS

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DO WOD TW

willow scarab
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What are you chasing titanforged to 425

oblique garnet
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huh?

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Why would i do WoD tw?

sick sentinel
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Scaling is all over the place

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Everbloom haste trinket

willow scarab
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1.4k haste cunt

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what the fuck

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300str for 550haste

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but imagine if you get a 425

warm plinth
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You can't. Timewalking can only forge 15 ilevels

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Though that amount of haste would be ridiculous

sick sentinel
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Wait wtf is this

willow scarab
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I was gonna run TW all day for the rest of the week until you said that

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and then I googled it and wowhead verified it

oblique garnet
warm plinth
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Sorry 😦 Guess I saved you some time at least lol

sick sentinel
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415+s gore and 425 rezan

willow scarab
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415+ hole anchor too

bronze lantern
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shut

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whats next, 425+leech opulence trinket?

willow scarab
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gore/rezans i've had since march, anchor since 1st jaina kill in april

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Hope not

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I want opu helm for Uu'nat

bronze lantern
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BFI+IF ?

willow scarab
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and IV

lime mantle
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I might just give up my sanity and farm that trinket

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Is it better than a 400 block? Who knows!

winter aspen
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Are you actually using anchor in keys ?

willow scarab
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Who

sick sentinel
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It's good

pastel field
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any yall play zandalari, and if you do, do you actually take the Krag'wa blessing or something else

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just sort of curious if there is a niche in taking shit like say Pa'ku blessing

sick sentinel
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@pastel field paku is the best

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Except if you are a memer

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And go gonk gank

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Gotta go fast

pastel field
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SHIT name, would never

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and thanks.

lime mantle
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Speed gang is best

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t. Dark iron 4% faster indoors

winter aspen
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dwarf sprints also have the Asterix run animation

oblique garnet
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@willow scarab So i simmed 3x BoM 2x TC 1 DC vs 2x BoM 3x TC 1 DC the latter was 4 dps increase xD

wooden radish
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@ionic fern hello.

willow scarab
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See I knew it

sick sentinel
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four

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And it sims with 100% uptime

undone sun
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@ionic fern hello.

willow scarab
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Hey that 4 is why i'm on all stars

final mist
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@ionic fern hello.

ionic fern
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Why

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@final mist @undone sun @wooden radish 😦

sick sentinel
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@ionic fern hello

ionic fern
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Hello.!

final mist
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👏👏👏

undone sun
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👋

ionic fern
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I was watching GoT. 😦

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At Season 5 now.

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😂

winter aspen
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Oh no no no

sick sentinel
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It's where it starts going downhill

undone sun
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almost to the real ending though

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s6

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pog

winter aspen
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1 good season to go

sick sentinel
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Battle of the bastards was good ngl

undone sun
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ver ygood

sick sentinel
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Character development goes out of the window after

winter aspen
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Sopranos>GoT dont @ me

ionic fern
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Oof.

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Well, then i got a bit more to go.

winter aspen
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Yeah enjoy it

half palm
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The Wire > The Sporanos

winter aspen
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Im at S1 the wire so far so good

half palm
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im jealous I wish I could watch it again brand new

winter aspen
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It will be hard to top Breaking Bad and Sopranos for me

half palm
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yea theyre all good

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Wire, Sopranos, Breaking Bad, top five

robust urchin
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Firefly was the best series

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Dont even @ me

chilly brook
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On the topic of game of thrones GRRM did the 200iq play

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Firefly was good

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See you refuse to finish the series yourself and you let someone else make an ending so you can gauge what the audience actually wants

robust urchin
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Reading is for nerds anyway

chilly brook
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Then when you give the series the “ending it deserved” you’re not only increasing your sales but you’re also being recognized as a hero

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300iq strats

robust urchin
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Why even bother you can never satisfy everyone

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Even breaking bas has people saying the ending waa bad

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Don't get me started at sopranos

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I remember people were seething at the ending

chilly brook
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Well the problem is the last season of GoT was just riddled with stupid crap that shouldn’t have happened, not even talking about writing

winter aspen
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The Sopranos ending was great

chilly brook
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How do you even.....

winter aspen
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Global warming

undone sun
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🤣

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global warming got rid of the mountains

chilly brook
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Global warming doesn’t change your geographical location lmao

undone sun
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||sandor clegane killed all the mountains||

chilly brook
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Lmao

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As someone who literally went to school for this it actually boggles my mind how you can botch something that major up

zinc spoke
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when you stop giving a shit because you are moving on to world building in a different universe

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aren't the two key writers/directors now leading some star wars project

winter aspen
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I cant wait to see it fail

chilly brook
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I believe they are working on The Old Republic era stuff

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Which I would really hate to see fail

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I would love to see Kathleen Kennedy kicked out though

robust urchin
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They are making the skywalker movie

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Like the last of the new trilogy

chilly brook
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Uhhh no they’re working on a completely different trilogy

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Not part of the Skywalker stuff at all

willow scarab
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Weird that some stuff is okay but some stuff isn't

undone sun
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implies someone would be watching

willow scarab
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It's 2am for me I assume it was like reasonable hours for EU/NA

chilly brook
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Because we like to keep the channel fun sometimes, and typically it’s not flagged for off topic unless it severely derails

undone sun
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9am PST

chilly brook
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^

prisma crane
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or if people asking questions are ignored

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what's up my dudes

chilly brook
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Nm man

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Hbu

undone sun
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oh shit it's krotos

prisma crane
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yarr, i still like to lurk here and there

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i started playing again pretty casually, have a horde toon for shits, unlocking Zandalari Trolls is a bullshit grind...

chilly brook
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Yep....

willow scarab
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Gotta have some reason to play

chilly brook
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Not gonna open the can of worms though

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Too bad the game can’t hook you on it’s own merits to get you to play 🙃

willow scarab
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eh game is fun game is god

chilly brook
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But hey classic is coming

willow scarab
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everyone says they hate it but they still play

robust urchin
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Oh ur right

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I thought they are making the skywalker one

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I mean who cares star wars is dead anyway

chilly brook
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Nah I say I hate it and I don’t play it anymore 😉

willow scarab
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You don't play ?

chilly brook
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7 was a good film (an ok Star Wars movie), 8 was a nightmare, 9 could possibly redeem it but I won’t hold my breath

robust urchin
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7 was a good film because it was quite literally a new hope

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Anyway ever since "No one is ever really gone" i gave up and accepted that bew star wars franchise is not for me

chilly brook
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Not anymore, too many hoops for me to jump through to actually care about the game rn. Aka finding a new guild and one that isn’t a shit hole and getting back into raiding

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After stuff fell apart mid Uldir my motivation to keep playing plummeted

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M+ imo is worse this expansion than in Legion as well which doesn’t leave me with much to do other than pvp and it’s just not been the same since the removal of gear

willow scarab
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Sounds like you just don't like wow anymore

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don't like the pvp and don't like half the pve

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assume you don't care for acheivments either

winter aspen
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pvp is pretty alright if youre decked out in pve gear

willow scarab
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pvp was good before CoS

chilly brook
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I used to care about achievements when I was a console peasant and first starting wow

willow scarab
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I wish I played last season for inflated rating

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I quit consoles when vanilla came out but i still like achievments

chilly brook
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I don’t like current iteration WoW

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I loved legion

willow scarab
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8.2 looks good

undone sun
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eh

prisma crane
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End of Legion was my personal second favorite version of warrior

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but SoO in MoP was the most fun i've ever had tanking

willow scarab
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Being stupid op is fun

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SoO was aight the whole time

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and then you got 589 ilvl solo tanking bosses

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Which is where it became amazing

exotic spoke
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Never played WoD. Stopped about halfway through panda.

I loved cata warrior: pve and PvP. Running flags as prot was amazing.

chilly brook
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I pretty much only did pvp in WoD

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Aside from raiding anyways

exotic spoke
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Between banners, ccharge, intervening a banner, leap (and I was goblin towards the end of Cata so rocket jump) I was fast as fuck

willow scarab
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Prot in rbgs then was what dh/guardian have been this xpac

stark fox
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I really wanna gear a 2nd tank and can't decide what other class to level 😐

chilly brook
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I’d recommend demon hunter if they weren’t so garbo

stark fox
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haha, yeah.

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I played Veng DH for like 3 days before going Prot War xD

chilly brook
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Ngl with DK not being broken it’s just not that fun to play

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Sooo I’d say monk or bear

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And I would have a personal bias towards monk

stark fox
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Bear is like 2 buttons isn't it?

chilly brook
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What class isn’t sense

stark fox
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haha, very true.

lime mantle
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Monk is fine but bear is literally like playing a worse warrior, doesn’t help most of their utility can’t be used outside bear form

willow scarab
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I've got a monk which is dull but they look cool

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levelling a dh and druid atm, genuinely enjoying playing druid

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dh is meh

trail whale
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vengeance dh is one of the classes i think blizzard just fucked up start of expansion and doesn't really intend to fix

lime mantle
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Vdh was never that good, it’s more that blizzard sorta forgets DH has a tank spec

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I honestly doubt they’ll ever unfuck DH

chilly brook
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I find monk to be fun but again I’m biased since it was my main for two xpacs

lime mantle
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My only complain is their mobility is pretty awful to use compared to DH and war

exotic spoke
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Monk has awful mobility?

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I think it’s pretty good personally

hollow pilot
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OK, a noob question. I've been having quite a bit of fun tanking M+ on my prot warrior alt. I know that there aren't like specific statweights, but that we want haste, vers, mastery etc. Is there some kind of statweights that people use just to have an idea what items are better? Thinking pawn here. Like I have 3-4 rings with some mix of stats and one with avoidance as well, and can't deciede which ones to use.

exotic spoke
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In general Take the highest Ilvl and if they are equal Ilvl take the one with haste

undone sun
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pawn isn't recommended to use at all

exotic spoke
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Drop pawn - it’s worthless for us

undone sun
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ever

lime mantle
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@exotic spoke key word here is “to use” I just prefer my mobility to be fully controlled rather than moving forward a set x amount. I also dislike fel rush

exotic spoke
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All of our stats are close in ‘value’ so it’s better to get more stats than fewer ‘better’ stats

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Fair - that’s an opinion. Between the kick, a movement speed increase and rolls I’ve really enjoyed leveling one

chilly brook
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Monk mobility is 10/10

sick sentinel
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warrior mobility 10/10

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pawn is worseless for almost every class

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just casuals use it

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because they don't know how stat weights actually work

oblique garnet
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Weapons are a myth

warm plinth
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You’re a myth

red wedge
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^

warm plinth
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THE MAN. THE MYTH. THE LEGEND.

oblique garnet
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yeah

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i will disappear soon again 😃

#

i just want classic

warm plinth
#

That’s bullshit sir

#

What are you gonna do on classic that you can’t do on live

red wedge
#

Hopefully, have fun

#

... Meaning hopefully classic will be fun. Not hoping that Late disappears again.

#

Just to be clear 😉

oblique garnet
#

Yes retail is boring

#

hopefully the new patch will be fun

final mist
#

Classic will be boring too

#

Tanks don’t play in protection spec

red wedge
#

Probably, true, Sal

oblique garnet
#

Im not planning on playing a tank

#

and also pvp is more fun

red wedge
#

I think the one main thing I'm looking forward to is no forging.

oblique garnet
#

with no bs pve trinkets

final mist
#

All tanks are Warriors and all Warriors are Arms, unless you’re DPS, in which case you’re Fury

red wedge
#

Working for your gear actually pays off in the end with a coveted item.

#

Not just endless weeks of disappointment opening caches, and getting no roll ups in dungeons.

final mist
#

But you don’t play Fury unless you’re in the party with the Enhancement Shaman, which means you’re always Arms

warm plinth
#

Because enhancement shamans don’t exist

final mist
#

Exactly

warm plinth
#

Ah vanilla. How I love that you got me into wow but I don’t miss you at all.

lunar jackal
#

Lol people saying endless weeks of disappointment on retail.... Did u play vanilla?

#

3 pieces divided among 40 people

oblique garnet
#

you wont raid in 40 mans in classic

red wedge
#

Yes I played vanilla, and raids weren't the only way to get gear.

lunar jackal
#

I think as @warm plinth i loved vanilla back in the day and im a bit nostalgic. But it was a pain

red wedge
#

I dont disagree

#

Things were a lot harder back then. And there will be tons of bugs, and there will be a lot of QoL items that will be missed.

#

Personally, I just look forward to running around with friends in PvE/PvP..

final mist
#

I would hazard to say it was harder

#

Things were harder because we weren’t as experienced

oblique garnet
#

pretty much

#

leveling is still bit harder

#

but thats because you actually go oom

red wedge
#

There are more things to worry about.

#

All the extra stats

final mist
#

That’s not actually difficult though, that’s just farming before a raid

red wedge
#

And I think al ot of the visual cues will be gone from things.

final mist
#

Same as AP, etc

red wedge
#

Yea. True.

final mist
#

They won’t remove visual cues, the game is gonna be pretty much exactly the same

#

Sans bugs

lunar jackal
#

I know it's been a while. Personally ive played vanilla back in the day and i got a beta (well a friend did but i use his lol) for classic. Things are not as hard as i remembered (omit levelling). I feel Many of that difficulty came from lack of resources and people not researching as many do now.

red wedge
#

I mean. I've played wow for so long that I dont fully rmember what was and was not around during what iteration.. but I dont really recall there being any telegraphs back in the day

final mist
#

Player knowledge is certainly higher know than it was then

#

That doesn’t mean the game was difficult though

red wedge
#

Yea. Point taken.

final mist
#

Ex. Arms was a better tank than Prot was (much better)

#

A large part of what made raiding hard wasn’t the fights, it was coordinating 40 retards

red wedge
#

I dont know what term to use then, for the differences in the game between classic and now.. Now is more casual (I guess?)

final mist
#

The fights were all rather easy, IMO

red wedge
#

In my opinion, they dumbed the game down a lot by consolidating stats and things

#

In my opinion, they dumbed the game down a lot by consolidating stats and things

#

Making things easier for every player

oblique garnet
#

keep in mind it was also that everyone were playing on potatoes and shit internet connections

sick sentinel
#

Can anybody review my prot warrior log

#

in raid

umbral forge
#

Hey can you bonus roll Jaina mount?
Asking for a friend.
Me

sick sentinel
#

No

#

You can't bonus roll anything that drops on kill

#

You can't bonus roll anything that drops on kill

timid jay
#

What item doesnt drop on kill

#

🤔

red wedge
#

Thought all mounts were excluded from bonus rolls

timid jay
#

afaik they are yeah

red wedge
#

I only thought that because I read it somewhere after wasting tons of rolls trying to get Sharkbait from Freehold. ;p

spice thicket
#

At the risk of sounding crazy, has threat felt different starting tuesday?

queen fulcrum
#

Yeah it's Skittish week 😂

exotic spoke
#

@oblique garnet you’re right.. you didn’t just have broken ass pve trinkets in PvP.... you had broken ass pve gear in pvp.

I don’t think pvp was in a very healthy state in vanilla. The severe class imbalances and disparity in gear heightened any difference. In a single AB I globaled (like legit - before charge stun wore off ) a priest 3 times

#

I’m sure that priest thought pvp was really fun then

spice thicket
#

Omg I thought it was teeming and quaking lol. NA right?

sick sentinel
#

It is teeming quaking

oblique garnet
#

its not skittish week anymore

sick sentinel
#

they are in EU

oblique garnet
#

its not

timid jay
#

EU has had reset already

sick sentinel
#

ah

oblique garnet
#

its teeming fort

sick sentinel
#

then I don't know what they talking about xd

timid jay
#

21h ago

queen fulcrum
#

Oh wait Skittish was last week lol

#

Nevermind me, haven't played yet today

spice thicket
#

So has threat felt the same to you guys then?

#

It may have been the dps outgearing me by 10-15 ilvl but that sounds crazy

stray dome
#

hi, sry for a noob question, but does item lvl on my shield determine my shield slams damage or is that pure weapon damage ?

timid jay
#

Its only attack power

#

iirc

stray dome
#

ok ty for answer 😃

timid jay
#

Might be some weapon dps in there as well but I'm 99% sure shield doesnt matter outside of the strength it gives

exotic spoke
#

Either way - use the highest Ilvl shield you have

indigo sandal
#

Hi, I was wondering, if there is a recommended cap for Mastery vs haste vs versa, because almost all my gear has been Haste + something, and now I sit with 30% mastery and 21%haste, and a friend told me I need more block.

#

just wondering what is your intake on that mates

undone sun
#

no reachable caps

#

as long as you're taking ilevel on shields, there's no real "you need more block"

indigo sandal
#

so, I should enchant and gem to haste, and favor Ilvl above all else as stated in the guides

sick sentinel
#

yes

#

general idea is go ilvl

manic spruce
#

@fierce juniper

strong forum
#

finally getting good logs.

#

after 1.5months of not reclearing

#

feels good man

warm plinth
#

Does armor mitigate quaking damage? Was asked in another Discord and figured someone here has probably tested it.

oblique garnet
#

its nature damage

empty inlet
#

is it ? p sure its physicfal

warm plinth
#

Yeah quaking is physical afaik

undone sun
#

logs are going super slow for me 😡

oblique garnet
#

spell_nature_earthquake

#

from wowhead

#

?

#

Now im just not sure anymore

strong forum
undone sun
#

wowhead states it's school as physical

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

the icon doesn't matter what type of spell it is

#

wrong quake

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update link

timid jay
#

Think armor works, dont quote me on that

empty inlet
#

its not nature because you cant cloak it

#

or ams it

oblique garnet
#

can you bop it then?

strong forum
#

just parry it looOO

undone sun
#

Cannot be dodged, parried or blocked

#

nerd

strong forum
#

😠

timid jay
#

Unaffected by invulnerability

#

Its like the flags arent there Thyme

#

🕵

undone sun
#

looking at logs, doesn't seem to be affected

#

🤔

timid jay
#

Could be something about % damage not being affected by armor

#

idk

#

I dont even play wow anymore so idk

undone sun
#

yeah idk, hard to say

strong forum
#

tfw i missed #1 server spot on champions by 33 dps 😕

empty inlet
#

you can probbably bop it monkaS

timid jay
#

Unaffected by invulnerability

empty inlet
#

trusting wowhead in 2019 LUL

undone sun
#

More trustable than in game tooltips

patent urchin
#

Unaffected by invulnerability is the part that makes your quake effect others, you are immune to damage but the quake still originates from you, and it's physical damage that can't be mitigated by armor, effectively only generic DR applies to it

slim roost
#

what legendaries are good for tw

sweet kettle
#

The belt

#

You can also use the boots for the extra speed

#

Or even rings

#

Also why you people talk about quaking

primal sable
#

Do legendaries get lost on transfer or faction change?

#

Cause i could swear i had one or two

mint adder
strong forum
#

giga

warm plinth
#

It’s not affected by armor btw. I forgot I asked in here lul. Vers affects it and absorbs (and I’m sure DR abilities) but not armor.

sick sentinel
#

okay from now on I can't give advice anymore

#

because, as everybody knows

#

opinions from people from anime profile pictures do not matter

#

sorry guys

timid jay
#

Thats true

#

Maybe we can get marok to mute you

sweet kettle
#

Wtf no kaege

sick sentinel
#

shut it it's for a girl

sweet kettle
#

Then go kaege

sick sentinel
#

LMAO

opal mesa
#

what exactly are ranks based on?

sweet kettle
#

On you performance compared to all others on you spec

#

Damage related and healing related

opal mesa
#

what is "performance"

#

just dps?

sweet kettle
#

Yes and healing

#

As you can't realistically calculate other things

opal mesa
#

so if youre the one doing a certain mechanic that lowers your dps it ranks you as trash?

sweet kettle
#

Pretty much:)

warm plinth
#

Parses at the highest level are almost always cheese

opal mesa
#

guess its something

warm plinth
#

Or at the very least, their raid group is doing something to enable them

opal mesa
#

and it ranks you against what

warm plinth
#

Other people

opal mesa
#

other people of your spec?

warm plinth
#

Yeah

sweet kettle
#

All players of your spec yes

opal mesa
#

of all ilevels?

sweet kettle
#

Yes

warm plinth
#

There are ilevel bracket rankings as well but the one that matters to most people is all ilevel a

#

Ilevels

sweet kettle
#

It has a ranking of your ilvl as well in the right side of the logs

#

Ilvl ranking doesn't matter most of the time

#

Cause ilvl can have like 3 logs sometimes

opal mesa
#

so to show up in ranking someone has to make the logs extra-public?

#

because they are public enough to be linked and viewed by anyone but apparently not enough to have a rank

sweet kettle
#

If the logs are public then they get shown

#

You can have them as live but unlisted and shit like that

#

Most people and especially guilds do live logs

sick sentinel
#

Or it might take a bit until you get ranked

opal mesa
#

my "profile" only has 2 fights of the first boss

exotic spoke
#

Oh god.. I don’t know what’s going on any more... kaege changed his profile pic

opal mesa
#

but i cleared the whole raid more than once

sick sentinel
#

@exotic spoke I explained

sweet kettle
#

Somebody didn't upload logs of those times or they didn't make them public

#

If you go on pugs I highly recommend doing your own log

opal mesa
#

it was guild runs with logs

sweet kettle
#

Then propably didn't make them public

exotic spoke
#

You changed it for a gril?

opal mesa
#

but then how can i view them

#

special link?

sweet kettle
#

Yes

opal mesa
#

figures

exotic spoke
#

Ask for permission to see them. Link your account to their guild usually

sweet kettle
#

You need to have the link and have permission

oblique garnet
#

@sick sentinel Are you seriously trying to impress a girl with anime profile picture? smh

sick sentinel
#

Not impressing her

sweet kettle
#

@oblique garnet kaege is trying to clap in his own ways

timid jay
#

Get one of these

#

guaranteed to impress

sick sentinel
#

We just got matching profile pics

sweet kettle
#

@timid jay I will tell baelath

oblique garnet
#

@timid jay My friend has that shirt XD

timid jay
#

FUcking yikes

sick sentinel
#

She sent a pic me a pic of an anime couple and she put the girl and I put the boy from that pic

oblique garnet
#

he got it as a gift from when one of our friends visited japan XDD

timid jay
#

Baelath doesnt exist until poe league is released

sweet kettle
#

XD

timid jay
#

then hes there to funnel currency to me

sweet kettle
#

W8 kaege that's a boy?

oblique garnet
#

Kage

sick sentinel
#

and then lyla noticed insta and she got jealous and put an anime profile pic as well

oblique garnet
#

Thats not guy

sick sentinel
#

The whole thing is complicated

#

It is

#

I think

sweet kettle
#

Your clapping game is weak you know it right?

oblique garnet
#

People with clap in their name should just quit am i right folks?

sick sentinel
#

@oblique garnet yes

sweet kettle
#

@oblique garnet yes

#

Everytime I see a warrior with clap on his name I tilt

oblique garnet
#

everytime i see warrior with clap in his name its insta decline

sick sentinel
#

You know it's a reroll

sweet kettle
#

Who even started that meme with people using abilities as part of the character

warm plinth
#

@opal mesa I believe your logs also have to be logged with advanced combat logging to be ranked. Not sure if anyone mentioned that (and I guess it might not be true, but I know they aren't as accurate if you don't have advanced logging enabled)

sick sentinel
#

Somebody somewhere

timid jay
#

thats been a thing for ages

sweet kettle
#

Fcking idiot no imagination for even a name

warm plinth
#

Literally since the beginning of MMOs, people have done that

timid jay
#

yeah pretty sure you need advanced combat logging for ranks

#

logs are scuffed without it

warm plinth
#

Probably before that even; any game that has naming ability

sweet kettle
#

Yes

#

Half of wowlogs don't work without them

warm plinth
#

Also does it still count as no imagination if I name a warrior Ovation?

#

Because technically it's not the ability

timid jay
#

Only if you stand up

sick sentinel
#

@sweet kettle I think it's better than what I started doing

#

Kaege
Kaegemage
Kaegedruid

#

That's even worse

warm plinth
#

I respect horde so much that all of my horde toons are named derp versions of their class name.

sweet kettle
#

No my dude stop

#

No

#

No no no

warm plinth
#

I have Demunhuntr, Waurior, Maaiiige

sick sentinel
#

My dh is named Deplecia though

timid jay
#

oh god

sweet kettle
#

Wanna know my Dh name?

timid jay
#

please tell me thats a joke

warm plinth
#

Tell you what's a joke

timid jay
#

those names

sick sentinel
#

@sweet kettle you should open a greek guild's roster

#

And look at the names

sweet kettle
#

I am at a Greek guild my dude

#

You don't have to tell me

sick sentinel
#

I fucking cry from laughing to hard everytime

#

I used to be in greek guilds for ever

warm plinth
sweet kettle
#

Same but I got used to it

timid jay
#

oh no

#

its true

sweet kettle
#

Oh no @warm plinth

warm plinth
timid jay
#

NotLikeTHis

#

Also

warm plinth
#

Lullll

sweet kettle
#

Wtf is happening

timid jay
#

@sweet kettle tell baelath I said μαλάκας

#

👋

sick sentinel
#

Lmao

sweet kettle
#

@timid jay hahahaha

oblique garnet
#

Nobody can beat my names tho

warm plinth
#

I also have Dathknight for my DK

oblique garnet
#

nobody understands them but you know

timid jay
#

Did you keyboard mash

#

?

oblique garnet
#

No

#

its just random finnish words

warm plinth
#

My alliance names are very well thought out and I like them a lot.

timid jay
#

Perkele

#

Hevonen

#

Musta kissa

warm plinth
#

But horde means nothing to me.

oblique garnet
#

Nono

warm plinth
#

I just play horde to have other people to play with

oblique garnet
#

Also no perkele because it was taken

sick sentinel
#

What does your shaman's name mean

warm plinth
#

So I couldn't be bothered to make actual names

sweet kettle
#

Gucciganger is my Dh BTW

oblique garnet
#

Snowplow kage

timid jay
#

saippuakivikauppias?

warm plinth
#

You're right Bugatsa. That's way better than having Clap in a warrior's name 😂

timid jay
#

kenkä?

sweet kettle
#

I hate the limit on characters

sick sentinel
#

I named my gnome rogue (that I mained) shortankard in cata

sweet kettle
#

So many cool names

oblique garnet
#

Ah yes youre from greece so you probably have no clue what snowplow is

timid jay
#

Tbh you're probably not wrong

sick sentinel
#

I'm from an island my dude

#

I have never seen snow

#

In my life

oblique garnet
#

yikes

timid jay
#

An island that has seen snow

sweet kettle
#

Aren't we all from islands if you think about it

timid jay
#

ireland confirmed

warm plinth
#

On alliance I have names like Stonehearth, Effigy, Offal, Huntmaster Huntmaster (I always say his title too because I'm easily entertained), Cyclops, etc.

sick sentinel
#

I come from the "island of the Sun"

timid jay
#

Huntsmaster huntsmaster reminds me of a friend in vanilla

sick sentinel
#

(Sounds cooler in greek)

timid jay
#

He saw everyone was named scout

warm plinth
#

Fun fact: I didn't actually take the word hearthstone and reverse it for my warrior's name. I actually didn't realize that until someone pointed it out. I just thought it was a very dwarvish sounding name

timid jay
#

So he made a character called scoutxxx

#

Scout scoutxxx

#

😂

warm plinth
#

Haha

#

I can't do names like that

timid jay
#

He didnt realize it was a title

warm plinth
#

If I can't do it without extra letters or special characters, I come up with something else

timid jay
#

We were like 10 or 11 at the time

warm plinth
#

Oh god lol

sweet kettle
#

200iq

warm plinth
#

But yeah you didn't answer Bugatsa. Is it no imagination to name a warrior Ovation?

sweet kettle
#

No

warm plinth
#

I need to feel validated by your opinion

#

Does it change your answer if it's a Kul Tiran?

sweet kettle
#

Oh no my dude

#

First of all if you are warrior as alli be a dwarf

timid jay
#

Ovation to clap to thunderclap is a bit of a stretch

#

tbf

warm plinth
#

My main warrior is a dwarf. Ovation is an alt

#

He's only level 28

sweet kettle
#

Wtf

warm plinth
#

Don't judge me

neon tangle
#

@warm plinth I too refuse to use weird characters in my names

warm plinth
#

I have two max level DHs and two max level monks

oblique garnet
#

sadbox

warm plinth
#

Fight me

oblique garnet
#

barry was gucci

#

Now gimme more

neon tangle
#

@oblique garnet That's all I got 😦

timid jay
#

@neon tangle whats defined as weird characters?

oblique garnet
#

useless

warm plinth
#

ASCII characters

#

ë ì etc

sweet kettle
#

You should see Cosmos warrior

warm plinth
#

Normal characters for you EU folks

sweet kettle
#

Lmao

neon tangle
#

@timid jay If it's not an ascii character, or specific to the langauge you speak, I don't use it

timid jay
#

you know the entire alphabet is in ascii

#

🤔

warm plinth
#

alt codes, whatever the fack you wanna call them

neon tangle
#

letters w/ accents

warm plinth
#

Letters with umlauts

oblique garnet
#

thoes are not normal characters wtf

timid jay
#

I think Late can confirm that ÅÄÖ are very useful to have

oblique garnet
#

They are

neon tangle
#

@timid jay e.g. an esset

warm plinth
#

Aren't they? Germans use letters with the dots over them don't they?

neon tangle
#

ß <- that one

oblique garnet
#

Germans are weird anyways

warm plinth
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

wanton oasis
#

I thunk your thinking of sweds

neon tangle
#

Germans use umlauts too

oblique garnet
#

Swedes are just cunts

warm plinth
timid jay
#

Fuck you

#

😡

oblique garnet
#

Cosmo you are swede?

warm plinth
#

Cosmo is literally my 2nd favorite person in this Discord; you leave his nationality alone

timid jay
#

yeah

oblique garnet
#

h4h44

#

Whos your favorite ghash?

wanton oasis
#

Eh tbh there's like 5 or 6 countries that do

timid jay
#

Watch out or we'll occupy you again Late

#

😡

warm plinth
#

@prisma crane is my favorite ✊

oblique garnet
#

You cant even occupy your own country anymore Cosmo

wanton oasis
#

Damn

timid jay
#

Is that the never stormforged pact?

#

oof

oblique garnet
#

Malmö

timid jay
#

Malmö has gone to shit

warm plinth
#

You're third Late, tied with Stewart 👌 Nimchip is like 80th though

oblique garnet
#

Third?

#

Really?

#

Never streaming anymore

warm plinth
#

I'm sorry. Cosmo and Krotos haven't left yet

oblique garnet
#

I thought you were my nr 1 fan

warm plinth
#

They linger

timid jay
#

They had a record in murders at malmö 2016

#

11 murders in 1 year

warm plinth
#

I am your #1 fan. I even followed you on Twitch.

oblique garnet
#

yeah my alerts are not working xD

#

Idk why

warm plinth
#

Tbf I literally just clicked the follow button. I thought I had already done it though and it's the thought that counts

oblique garnet
#

Tbh i only stream bonding moments these days not actual pushing

warm plinth
#

Tfw you're not bonding with me 😢

timid jay
#

Go grab some super sticky glue

#

force him to bond

neon tangle
#

tfw when late doesn't carry your rogue

oblique garnet
#

Youre NA sadbox

warm plinth
#

Wow, calling sadbox not applicable

#

Rude

timid jay
#

Hey have you been conscripted yet late?

neon tangle
#

@oblique garnet Are you saying your shoulders aren't broad enough to span oceans

timid jay
#

I'm bullying my finnish friend because hes in the army atm

oblique garnet
#

Conscripted?

#

You mean military service or?

timid jay
#

ye

oblique garnet
#

Yeah i did it when i was 18

#

Or 19

timid jay
#

Cant even bully you about that

oblique garnet
#

Where is he stationed?

timid jay
#

Good question

#

in a forest

#

xd

oblique garnet
#

In north or south?

timid jay
#

north

oblique garnet
#

Ah yes the real army

timid jay
#

hes a paper pusher

oblique garnet
#

Oh yikes

warm plinth
#

I didn't join the military because I can't do anything fun. You know you can't even drive a truck in the United States military if you're colorblind? It's super dumb.

timid jay
#

what

#

that makes no sense

warm plinth
#

I agree

prisma crane
#

oblique garnet
#

We had a fun survival camp

#

-40 go out for a week and live from the nature without being detected

#

It was actually fun

warm plinth
#

Yes, the #1 warrior is here

#

🎉

prisma crane
#

lol, 😊

#

i'm washed up at this point

junior ivy
#

hi

timid jay
#

What happened with that pirate game btw?

junior ivy
#

KROTOS

prisma crane
#

hey !

junior ivy
#

AND COSMO

timid jay
#

👋

warm plinth
#

cat do you have a fucking 6th sense or something? How do you always show up when they do lol

prisma crane
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I played a lot of Sea of Thieves, they made some new updates that are really solid, but i've just been playing a lot of other things

junior ivy
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hahaha

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i dunno

oblique garnet
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You know whats a fun game

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Battalion 1944

junior ivy
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i need a new game. i say that every day

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but its true

oblique garnet
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(Not sponsored)

junior ivy
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i was really into the sims 4 for like 2 weeks

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now im burnt out on it

prisma crane
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most people would hate this, but i'm enjoying fortnite still

warm plinth
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I'm playing Diablo 3 mostly right now

sweet kettle
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Terrarria my dudes

timid jay
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fortnight xd

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Terraria is so nice

oblique garnet
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Cat just start playing wow again

warm plinth
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I would play FPS but well, I'm bad at them

junior ivy
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i dont understand terraria and i never will

prisma crane
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and the division 2 is pretty solid, especially if you enjoyed the first one

junior ivy
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i do want the division 2

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i loved the first

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b ut cant afford rihgt noiw

oblique garnet
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Ghash that sounds like a git gud issue

junior ivy
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now*

prisma crane
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Div 2 is basically the first game but better

junior ivy
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yeh ive heard

warm plinth
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I just haven't played a PC shooter in like...15 years or something

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And can't be bothered to get back into it

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I played a lot of console Call of Duty for a while

timid jay
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thats gotta be rough

junior ivy
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ive been playin csgo with myt sister sometimes

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but i need like. a different game

prisma crane
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yea it's funny, now that i've been playing them a lot, my aim is finally getting somewhere, but man the learning curve on building in Fortnite is just super high

timid jay
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I'm playing at a decently high level in csgo

junior ivy
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you never play arms race with me

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cosmo

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omg

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id love for you to play arms racve with my sister

warm plinth
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The building in Fortnite is why I've never tried it tbh. It seems super gimmicky to me

timid jay
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arms race xd

oblique garnet
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Learning curve

junior ivy
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no one would ever expect it but shes AMAZING at it

oblique garnet
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High?

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Fortnte???

junior ivy
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she wins like 90% of the games she plays

oblique garnet
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What

junior ivy
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people know jher when she joins the game

prisma crane
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lmao, to be at a high level with building in fortnite is pretty difficult, it's what turns a lot of people off of the game

oblique garnet
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Cosmo you faceit lvl 10?

timid jay
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8

oblique garnet
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Ah unlucky

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We couldve played together

prisma crane
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also, a lot of people hate the bloom in the shooting, which i understand

timid jay
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Havent really been playing faceit for a long time

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2 months maybe?

junior ivy
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whats faceit

timid jay
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went from 3 to 8

prisma crane
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i just want cyberpunk 2077 to come out

junior ivy
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ME TOO

timid jay
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3rd party MM service

warm plinth
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I think we should all play Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes

timid jay
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Pretty much matchmaking but with better people

junior ivy
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i own that

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ghash

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OMG I SHOULD SUGGEST THAT THIS SATURDAY

oblique garnet
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I played alot of csgo before bfa cane

junior ivy
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with my rl friends

warm plinth
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I actually don't. My coworker bought it and we played in person so I didn't have to lol

junior ivy
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been having game night every saturday and we need new games

timid jay
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you were rank 10?

oblique garnet
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Got to GE and started climbing in faceit and then got to 10

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Yeah

warm plinth
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I've only had the chance to play it once. You need smart people to play with you haha

timid jay
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Think I can reach rank 10 if I just keep at it

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tbh

prisma crane
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we should just play UNO online

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or monopoly

junior ivy
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so far every week 5 or 6 of us meet and play: mario party, the game of life boardgame, asshole the cardgame, a rick and morty card game or um basically thats it

oblique garnet
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Pretty much cosmo

prisma crane
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with the right people cards against humanity is a shitload of fun too

junior ivy
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OH or jhackbox

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jackbox party pack too

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we play that

oblique garnet
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I usually get to pretty high levels in games and then i get bored and quit

junior ivy
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but id totally play the bomb diffusing game

timid jay
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I played cards against humanity with a guy that got offended really easily

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didnt turn out well

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xd

prisma crane
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lmao

oblique garnet
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Lul

warm plinth
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You should suggest that to your friends then. It's super fun.