And buy it?
#protection
oblique garnet
sand egret
that's what I'm thinking
spice ferry
if you get a downgrade
sick sentinel
just do it
spice ferry
you can scrap that, then restore your old piece
sick sentinel
you literally can't get a downgrade
sand egret
i have actually a duplicate of the same chest I use for my offspec
oblique garnet
I mean
oblique garnet
You can
sand egret
here we go
oblique garnet
Do it
sand egret
#believe
sick sentinel
I just opened my weekly chest on my shaman
oblique garnet
Also if youre rolling chest piece
spice ferry
#prayforblade
oblique garnet
@sand egret why kot pug mythic champs
sand egret
when since Ive been here have I ever raided?
oblique garnet
Never
sand egret
ding ding
oblique garnet
Its not actually raid tho
Its like a world boss
With like no mechanic
Its 10 minutes in n out max
oblique garnet
?
sand egret
lololol
oblique garnet
F
hollow thorn
thats irrelevant to raiding
oblique garnet
What were you waiting for
hollow thorn
thats pugs
hollow thorn
resetting summoning, guy invites more than 20 ppl
oblique garnet
Yikes
undone sun
assume that's a pug?
oblique garnet
Just make your own groups smh
sand egret
really wasn't
oblique garnet
Youre 9/9m you should get like good group together pretty fast
hollow thorn
Completely different things
sand egret
it's a social experience
hollow thorn
cba
sand egret
that I dislike about it
so, no. It's the same experience in terms of why I don't like raids.
daring bay
What are your peoples go to trinkets in m+?
sick sentinel
rezan+goreblock
daring bay
Goreblock over vial?
sick sentinel
vial is not that good
daring bay
I git all 3 in 400ilvl
sand egret
eyyy at least I didn't get the same chest twice in a row
wind patio
How should I open my mythic cache? Under prot or another spec? I’m new to warrior
wind patio
Only things loot locked is trinkets and weeps right? Just thinking to myself about keeping from getting bandages from the cache
ivory barn
how do i remove the eye if i did the quest selected to remove it and it didnt remove
oblique garnet
Yeah but do you have 415+ weapon and shield @wind patio
If you do you can open it as fury or arms
If you dont why bother
wind patio
Touché
worthy dagger
im really between OP or UF
UF uptime is better but you dont always get huge stacks
and OP diminishes so fast that you cant get the full benefit of it
worthy dagger
Overwhelming flames
sick sentinel
flames
sick sentinel
FUCK
warm plinth
XD
sick sentinel
I didn't notice it
oblique garnet
Yes i will tell UF over op anydays
sick sentinel
I would say depends on trinkets and on gear
oblique garnet
And id say that youre wrong 8)
Its a joke
Obviously gear matters
How much haste do you have how much crit etc
Everything is related
sick sentinel
ay late I added 2 more sections on my faq
sick sentinel
look man
you gotta do what you gotta do
it is aimed at players that are not that good with the spec still
warm plinth
I need an FAQ; I'm a bad warrior
sick sentinel
...
oblique garnet
He is
sick sentinel
LMAO
winter aspen
whats the ilvl rule on trinkets ? would you take for example 400 vial over 415 alchemy ?
junior ivy
hi
warm plinth
Uh, don't sell my 59 io short Late. I have 59 io from a +9
sick sentinel
hello cat
warm plinth
boom
winter aspen
any1 ? is it still ivl > everything on trinks
slender finch
does shield wall with bolster talent prevent tank getting the stacks from reaping melee attacks?
slender finch
and necrotic?
warm plinth
@winter aspen No, on trinkets it's more about having a better trinket than a higher ilevel one. But that depends on what you have available. Ilevel would come into play in close situations or large ilevel gaps.
wispy plume
with rings how does ilvl play out
sick sentinel
ilvl
wispy plume
so 385 crit/haste would be worse than 400 mast/vers?
warm plinth
Yeah
sick sentinel
yeah
wispy plume
gotcha and when it comes to 5ilvl? so i have that 400 mast/vers and a 395 crit/mast
warm plinth
I would drop 5 ilevels on a ring to get a ring with haste if my current one didn't have haste. That's about it. Other than that I take the higher ilevel. You can also drop like 10 ilevels for a socket on a ring.
wispy plume
gotcha sounds good
sick sentinel
yeah that sounds about right ^^
ivory barn
i can buy a piece which one you think i should gamble/buy? https://gyazo.com/90534ca5679d82dfa1ac95c6951e21de also i did the quest to remove taht damn eyeball, but it didnt disappear
primal sable
Those traits look pretty ok
I'd buy something for OS
Or gamble for something with similar traits + OP
How are you 47neck and 375mainhand man
earnest reef
hi guyys. its posible to reflect the ciclone strike on the first boss of sethralis? everytime I try I die :´c
magic latch
probably his os is prot
ivory barn
I played Fury till 2 days ago
magic latch
Yes it is, but there is a cast from the other boss going on
so if it is not interrupted you waste your spell reflect
ivory barn
and i am going for mostly M+
magic latch
well apart from 3x bastion and 1x thundering crash the other dont really make such an impact
so you are good
ivory barn
prolly gonna roll shoulders for chance at BoM + other trait
primal sable
Meticulous is pretty good tho
ivory barn
oh i didnt see what that did,... i need to track that shit
warm plinth
@earnest reef Yes, you can reflect Cyclone Strike. It cannot be targeting you or the reflect will not work. And as Orgismenos said, it's fairly easy to accidentally have a Jolt go off (or whatever the other guy's cast is) and consume your reflect.
oblique garnet
@ivory barn if id roll anything it would be the headpiege
magic latch
wait so you have to be the one targeted for it to work ?
oblique garnet
No
primal sable
No
oblique garnet
If you are targeted it wont work
magic latch
uh
oblique garnet
If anyone else is it will
primal sable
@ivory barn buy a helmet and hope for BoM + OP
ivory barn
late for better than BoM + IF?
oblique garnet
You wouldnt
magic latch
stacking dc isnt bad
magic latch
Your top priority right now should be getting a shield to boost your block
magic latch
Gotta clap harder
oblique garnet
You cant clap if youre dead
oblique garnet
I wonder how hard it would be to tank like a +20 with a 340 shield
magic latch
not hard at all
primal sable
Probably not that bad for someone experienced
magic latch
you will just have to wait 30-40 minutes for bwomsandi buff to hero everything
I personally noticed a huge difference in my damage taken when I upgraded from 380 to 400
oblique garnet
Ive had a 415 since the mythic first week so dunno
magic latch
I main fury so couldnt really roll for the shield :/
primal sable
I got mine pretty early too
Its like every few weeks i get showered in loot
And then nothing
timber nest
hmm, for purely parse reasons... i cant figure out why people are running VoAB, when my sim higher in all situations...
spice ferry
nope
light prairie
gg/
oblique garnet
Press F for yet another sporepods out in the world
zinc spoke
how big a deal is it to have 0 BOM? I have eng helm, gorilla king spaulders, harpooner's from vendor for chest
sick sentinel
not ideal
zinc spoke
helm and shoulders are 400, chest 415 and Ill have enough next week to buy 1 random piece from vendor of the 415s
lusty grotto
depends on the content type
lusty grotto
def not ideal
zinc spoke
okay thank you
I like my eng helm but doubt I wil be able to upgrade it to 415 anytime soon
sick sentinel
eng helm is pretty good
zinc spoke
unless you have 0 BOM elsewhere i guess
spice ferry
even if you just do heroic and m champs it doesn't take long
zinc spoke
you can pug that one pretty easily right
umbral magnet
Whats 0 BOM? x)
sick sentinel
BoM is a trait
umbral magnet
Ahhh
zinc spoke
bastion of might
umbral magnet
Yeah. Thanks, couldve guessed.
umbral magnet
I recently rolled to Prot, was vengance before. Its kinda weird not being able to heal yourself. But i guess warrior is the better choice if i wanna tank, right?
sick sentinel
yeah it is
umbral magnet
Its just kinda frustating, that if the healer is dead you can see your life passing by. But Im gettin used to it, at least we got plenty of migration.
sick sentinel
veng is basically the same thing though
because you heal a % of damage taken
so you can't heal all of it anyway
spice ferry
its two different styles of tanking
outer dew
What tank doesnt fall over without a healer
spice ferry
veng heals back alot of what they take, warrior just doesn't take it
sick sentinel
^^
umbral magnet
Lifesteal was a thing tho.
sick sentinel
was
umbral magnet
@spice ferry yeah, thats how i feel, too.
umbral magnet
yeah.. legion was way more fun.
sick sentinel
taking 40% less damage and healing 40% of the damage taken is basically the same thing
umbral magnet
I was about to create a DK but i dont wanna be slow as fuck.
Yeah, but as a vengance I got some really heavy hits. As a Prot it feels like the mobs are gently touching you. Thats a big plus.
shadow timber
idol of indiscriminate consumption or ramping amplitude gigavolt engine
sick sentinel
depends
shadow timber
on what?
sick sentinel
your other trinket, the content you are doing, how much you overgear it etc
zinc spoke
Play whatever you like best man
How likely is the current top tank to stay top tank and by how
How much*
empty inlet
spice ferry
id say things looking as they are in 8.2, it is very likely for warrior to remain top tier
sick sentinel
@empty inlet very big
empty inlet
even if they do blood dk's damage they will still be the best
shieldblock and spell reflect is broke monkaS
versed widget
hey guys are bloodmallet sims accurate? feels weird that my 395 butchers block is probably better than 415 alch stone
sick sentinel
Well, sim yourself to find out
Bloodmallet uses different Azerite powers than you and has different stats
ivory barn
cool thing about this, I still have mostly my Fury set. some of the stats are fucked but it works
but i want to main prot now
395 Jes is worse than a 400 BRB.... OOF
ivory barn
use w/ avatar?
warm plinth
In M+, yeah. Most on-use trinkets that don't line up with Avatar should be held for Avatar.
Think Grong's trinket is the only exception; you want to use that outside of the Avatar window since it's not affected by Ava's damage increase.
warm plinth
Definitely not terrible trinkets. Especially since you just recently swapped to prot lol
Actually your trinkets are better than mine 😂
warm plinth
Oh yeah didn't you have the screenshot of like 50 azerite pieces? lol
warm plinth
lul yeah, I remember seeing that
I'm using a 385 knot (had it since S1 before Ivus got upgraded to 400 loot) and a 395 sea charm from the turtle emissary
ivory barn
fucking 50% haste w/o itk due to az trait + rezan... holy shit
ivory barn
why tho 😦
sick sentinel
Bagspace?
sweet kettle
Half of those items are useless?
sick sentinel
Also if you delete your hearthstone you can use one of the hearthstone toys
Saves 1 bag space
ivory barn
i have the hearth toys too lol
sweet kettle
200iq
ivory barn
hey man when 8.2 drops and we need to different traits
only other reason i save crap
also what would scrapping do? if we cant excatly have a use for Proffs
warm plinth
You get titan residuum from scrapping 🤔
warm plinth
Also, we aren't going to need different traits in 8.2 at this point, and won't unless something huge changes.
lusty grotto
why would you even have pre 8.1 azerite
ivory barn
"something huge" it can happen if you know blizz the last 15 years
warm plinth
It doesn't have to be from after 8.1.5 as long as it's 385 or higher
As long as it's epic anyway
ivory barn
i could get rid of the blue 355 gear tbh
warm plinth
I think he's just a hoarder. It worked out for him though; he had decent prot shit when he changed specs lol
ivory barn
my bank untill like a week ago had BC/Wotlk mats
lusty grotto
i still have those
undone sun
🤦
lusty grotto
on my bank alt
they sell for quite a bit
im glad i saved them too cause now that professions are separate for each expansion
if people want to level them up
i make cash
lusty grotto
every time an expansion comes out, i mail all my mats to my bank alt
ivory barn
i need to do that
lusty grotto
and empty my materials thing
warm plinth
I don't even use the bank
Idk what the hell people use it for 😅
I never have shit that needs to go in the bank
sweet kettle
@lusty grotto I also do that with my alts
lusty grotto
there's no reason to save anything anyway since it all goes to the collection thing
sweet kettle
Aside from materials and some old collectibles
lusty grotto
yeah
warm plinth
It took me 2 years to notice the reagents bank thing existed.
That's how much I use the bank
ivory barn
i dont think i have enought fury weapons though tbh
lusty grotto
i gotta be honest ghash but what the fuck
undone sun
+1
warm plinth
I just...idk. I get rid of shit when I don't need it, and until recently I never really had anything to do with professions, except enchanting in vanilla/BC
undone sun
definitely a relic of the past now
lusty grotto
you can still use it though
warm plinth
That's what my 1800 bank slots could be used for though
🤔
I can actually name one thing that my bank is used for
It's to store my Vile Fumigator's Mask on every toon while I wait for Blizzard to come to their senses and make it moggable
ivory barn
is fury as close as one can get to a diablo 3 berserk?
oblique garnet
Fury is just mindless button smashing which slowly gives you carpal tunnel
ivory barn
so that would b e ayes...
hell yes
https://gyazo.com/1984feeca51ab0626d8bab111b70f1fd look at dat upgrade 😃
only losing 9 haste cause ima go put a haste gem in there
look at that block and armor difference... holy crap
spice ferry
ive been to the bank exactly twice this expansion
once to put my artifacts in
and again about 2 weeks ago to dump all my unused breath/sangicell/cores
oblique garnet
@ivory barn when it comes to shield you will always take the higher ilvl the stats dont matter or socket
magic latch
Yeap
ivory barn
sweet, ty
dawn shuttle
I'm seeing a couple higher end prot warrs running siphoning vs. Quick Nav can someone explain this to me?
lusty grotto
yeah siphoning warriors are retards
dawn shuttle
lmaoooooooooo
magic latch
quick explanation 😛
ivory barn
Nimchip aint lying tho
oblique garnet
@dawn shuttle We do not speak of siphoning those warriors who run it are a disgrace
undone sun
👀
warm plinth
That moment when you're featured in an anti-meme campaign 😭
Those are happy proud tears
undone sun
leech empathizers are closer to flat earthers
odd ridge
Jokes on you mate, there are flat earthers all over the globe!
undone sun
really makes you think
ionic fern
Oh, right on time for the relevant discussions.
oblique garnet
You really should know that it always happens during mornings and nights for you mwahi
During the day nobody is asking about it
undone sun
same
oblique garnet
As usual the NA people are at fault 8)
ionic fern
On a side note - we tried KR 23 yesterday. The Shadow of Zul was NOT fun.
It makes me wonder how people deal with him o.o
potent anvil
You kite it. The only way to deal with him.
Tank as long as you can, and then just keep running away until dps kills him.
potent anvil
I'm not sure if BM pets can taunt him still. Might have been changed at some point. But that was an earlier strat where you would let a BM pet tank it until you drop the debuff.
ionic fern
Mwkay.
We ran double Outlaw ..at first i thought "Huh..how bad can it be". And it was horrible. :')
Can't even properly LoS the guy because apparently he shoots through most of the walls.
potent anvil
Yeah, it's super annoying. Once every personal/external is expended, you just leave early and the healer goes with you.
ionic fern
He just has a REALLY long range.
dusky summit
in terms of m+, hows incite the pack
if i were to go raptor helm
is BoM still better than Incite + op?
oblique garnet
@ionic fern you leap away and then you skystep and run away
And yes BoM is better
oblique garnet
Yup
Its pretty much lust and pray
I think you can maybe tank it in there if your comp has alot of offhealing
@ionic fern how much hp did zul have on 23 fort and how much did it hit
oblique garnet
Well that just seems excessive
I think for zul you should change to stam flask
To help out
ionic fern
In all honesty - it wouldn't have helped.
😂
My healer enjoyed it "70k HPS Singletarget".
oblique garnet
@neon tangle you werent kidding this barry show is pretty good is there a 3rd season?
oblique garnet
this is the real shame tho
oblique garnet
eh stats dont matter that much
warm plinth
Just need like 26 more ilevel and I'll be good
I know they don't. I can still like them!
ionic fern
What'd you get
oblique garnet
Nice
he finally got what he needed then i guess
wait no
theres still that druid from argent dawn who is ahead of 
distant crystal
ohh i was looking US
oblique garnet
how does holy priest handle bursting?
tacit solstice
well
warm plinth
Where dat vod at doe
oblique garnet
russian pug holy priest seems to be struggling at 4-5 stacks 😦
ionic fern
Feels bad.
tawny sphinx
Guys! Have they change the logging system for conclave (the tank tanking the last-killing-boss) and rastakhan (the tank tanking bownsambi) so that the tank that is tanking this actually can log something?
oblique garnet
yes ages ago
oblique garnet
already did on conclave
we cheesed the bosses close together so i could clap
shame that we are private logging 😦
ionic fern
How much did you get?
oblique garnet
only rank 17
oblique garnet
oh
20.2k
if you would have better rng and the bird was on the same spot always you could get much more
oblique garnet
guild has been private logging since its been founded iirc
ionic fern
Ah, okay.
oblique garnet
to prevent people whoring parses and actually doing mechanics 😛
lime mantle
Today I am ready for another piece with leech
tawny sphinx
@oblique garnet Thanks! Do you have any tip how to log on opulence? I know traits, trinkets, talents etc. But it feels like the adds are dying too quickly. Was easier logging when progressing months ago and some people where dead. When I checked the highest logs, some dps in the team are just standing afk during the adds. 😦
ionic fern
Just be sure you're in range with your TC to hit both bosses with each cast and you should be fine already with that.
willow scarab
You log on opulence by having half your raid dead
ionic fern
OH, opulence, rofl
willow scarab
Less people on adds, more adds overall
tawny sphinx
Ye, exactly. That’s what I thought 😦
warm plinth
Maybe because someone just asked something about Conclave not long before that guy
strong forum
Opu parsing is bleh. I'm happy with my 100 opu log on boss dmg
Overall is scuffed AF on opu
worthy pulsar
Hey there guys, when tanking stormwall mythic I'm currently looking at a strat where I've got an assigned melee dps to stay on the boss while I leap back to drop my kelp wrapped debuff on the adds to stop the reaching attacks going out on the raid, does anyone know if his kelp wrap must be on a player with a behind the scenes mark as a tank player?
strong forum
Typically you don't move away from boss
spice ferry
Get people to run far back
still aurora
Worth dropping 5 lvl on non perfect gear for a socket?
strong forum
Yes
spice ferry
And spawn them far, and get dps to swap and actually kill them
worthy pulsar
yeah sounds like a plan, we've had our DH debuffing them at like 12% when they're close to the boss 😂
tawny sphinx
You do not have to leap back, much easier if u stay max melee range since the range attacks from the boss hits hard af.
worthy pulsar
they'll be dead without the debuff, I'll just step to the side and call for a dispel away from melee camp
ionic fern
One tank is always on the boss..the other one is solo soaking orbs. Ranged DPS nuke down the add - melee helps if they get in range.
And boss dies.
worthy pulsar
yep, I've got my DK off tank solo soaking, should go down tonight, just getting that last min prep work in 😄
strong forum
DH stays on adds perma
And does the clearing and orb dropping
Perma
Doesn't matter too much if you drop kelp on melee camp either, they don't take damage outside of the lightning so if there's no overlap youre safe to be dispelled aswell
oblique garnet
if you drop kelp on cotank he will die soaking
pastel holly
Hey guys, got Ashvan wardes chest as my first 415 chest. I chose BoM as my first trait. WOuld you choose sheming or brace for impact as second option? Tend to use first, but i am not sure how good the block of bfi is
lean flame
Hey guys, just curious on what weapon enchants you reccomend?
oblique garnet
quick nav
jagged narwhal
Finally managed to get my Warrior cemented as my Main in the guild over my DK now after we downed Jaina HC for the first time on Monday 😄
That fight is needlessly annoying as a Blood DK vs a Prot War fuck me
lean flame
thank you @oblique garnet
jagged narwhal
It wasn't the damage that was doing us in. It was just the stupid mobility
brittle owl
well yeah, hc
jagged narwhal
"Oh cool I got Avalanche? Well this is now everyone's problem. Have fun with that"
brittle owl
still sucks that you need to move alot and your tank ability is dictated by wether you can ds the boss or not
jagged narwhal
The main issues was placing Avalanche in the entire raid / close to the raid whenever Lightfoot Pot was on CD, and when moving from barrel to barrel if there was ice on the ground between us I'd 100% get frozen if I had 10 stacks or more trying to cross
oblique garnet
you dont need extra mobility for that
just make sure you clear your ice debuff stacks all the time
jagged narwhal
You can't clear the stacks outside the barrel fire tho
sudden kayak
what ilevel do u guys think can do a 10 key as prot
jagged narwhal
so when the Timing works out that Ice Fall is about to drop after the barrel explodes and you're about to move, the timing is so tight we're worried about getting hit if we try to cross before it goes, it just gets more awkward
So much easier to just Leap and be done with it
sick sentinel
premade? 380/390 pug probaby 410 to get invited with no score
sudden kayak
kk
oblique garnet
@jagged narwhal you can move away before the avalanche comes so it wouldnt be on raid anyways in p2
brittle owl
if you're not new to tanking*
or ok
if you're used to monk druid or dk
its rough
oblique garnet
you wont time a +10 if youre ok at tanking but have no clue how warrior works
jagged narwhal
Avalanche comes on the tank with the Aggro and DK mobility is so low. It's not that it drops right on the raid (If positions are Okay), it just drops close to the raid which means the Grasps are harder to dodge
If you can just Leap you mitigate a lot of the trouble with Grasp
brittle owl
i might have a skewed opinion, but really, i don't find warrior tanking as difficult as people make it out to be 🤷
like, first 10 i did on my warr i did at 365, legit had no issues
jagged narwhal
It's not difficult. But when you're new to it it is very stressful and hectic
brittle owl
from dk bear and monk i could get that
brittle owl
bear and monk are snoozefests so suddenly having to press buttons could be weird
i mean
oblique garnet
well yeah you can go full afk mode on monk and do no damage but wheres the fun in that
oblique garnet
also guardian is pretty fast pace too
brittle owl
less so tho
pastel holly
does the block portion of bfi have any value in aoe situations or is ist just a ST-affix?
brittle owl
so warr has double
oblique garnet
@pastel holly yes bfi increases block rating in aoe aswell
thats assuming youre using ss on cd in aoe
pastel holly
ok thank you
brittle owl
you're most likely gonna revenge though
pastel holly
would you prefer the sheming ~ 800 ish haste procc after 3 abilities over it?
jagged narwhal
I haven't played Bear since MoP so Idk what they are like now. But i feel like the only time Warrior is a "One button spec" is when Avatar, Demo Shout, Shield block and IP are all cast and you're just Thunderclapping more or less on the GCD. But that's only like 10 seconds on the minute
Last I played Bear all you fucking did was Swipe and Thrash 24/7
undone sun
Incarn isn't the go to currently
brittle owl
nah, woyer flows in a very pleasant way for me
it's almost musical tbh
not that much depth though
but the flow is great
brittle owl
nah, even a gcd cap
supple lily
@jagged narwhal if you count Avatar, DS, SB and IP so count Iron Fur and Regen aswel.
jagged narwhal
Like I said @supple lily I haven't played Bear since MoP. And I don't even think I played it at 90 so idk wtf Bear is about these days
All i remember about Bear was just swiping like a madman and being top DPS in dungeons
supple lily
If that's the case then okay. I mean I play both and all is warrior has over bear is burst. People saying bear is snoozefest when all that warrior has over it is Avatar>DS>clap clap clap, it's same snoozefest outside that windows. As any other tank in BfA pretty much 🤷
brittle owl
it is down to personal prefference in the end
brittle owl
wat vdh 110???
you get 70+ only if you spam ip
realistically you're around the 60-70
vdh is way lower apm than prot
patchwerk apm breakdown on simc
ionic fern
Huh, for some reason i thought BM would be ways ahead of MM
tepid raptor
Fk. I just got a 415 with worse triats than my 400...
What trait would you take? Braice for impact or Meticulous Scheming?
ionic fern
Meticulous Scheming is more versitile of the two. Especially in m+.
oblique garnet
@brittle owl yes spamming ip is also the fastest way to burn excess rage which results in more avatars
lime mantle
Vdh has high apm since GCD lick and you need to pop anti depressants whenever you realize your class is a joke.
brittle owl
vdh has "high" apm because you glaive whenever you have nothing to press, which is quite often 🤦
glacial olive
It's not wasting if you don't have anything else to press :p
versed widget
hey guys what damage type is shadow of zul? can i block or is it just ignore pain
lime mantle
Glaive has a 3CD
lime mantle
Even with shear you can’t have more than 70ish APM At max haste GCD reduction.
Assuming that it’s be:
60->Every gcd is filled
Each 12s you jump (+5)
You start with 2 jumps so we can be nice and add +2.
Spikes each 20? 15? Secs
60+5+2=67 apm tops without spikes.
Wtb off gcd shit for vdh
@versed widget 1. Clench
2. Spam IP
3. Shield wall
4. Keep clenching
versed widget
- Run and pray to god? : )))
lime mantle
He casts running away reduces your staying power
And there is no good place to LOS him
Iirc
ionic fern
@versed widget yep. Rotate your CD's+ your healers CD's and then you run away and never stop until he's dead.
brittle owl
channel your inner gump
stock up on those lightfoots
rip if you skipped packs on the bridge 😂
versed widget
@lime mantle i had no trouble ranging him, he just floated along behind without casting. just when i got to the stairs he casts through, so i figure leap + lightfoot back the other way might be the play
nah i run 2 rogues so we dont have to pot
brittle owl
2 rogues 🤢
versed widget
2 rogues :megusta:
lime mantle
@versed widget every time I tried that the healer didn’t move behind and I got clipped by the last bolt or some shot happened and he went into a frenzy.
Again, if you say you can run away do so, something goes wrong when I do it so I don’t.
But yeah, kite him if you can.
brittle owl
worthy*
brittle owl
had 2 healers insta leave when they saw the group tho 😂
yeah it was like a 13
good memes
ionic fern
I ran double rogue + demo lock. And i just ran wayyyy back into the 2nd boss room.
And by that time he was dead.
brittle owl
your body was prepared then
nova gale
ionic fern
Still good and decent so far.
willow scarab
I think my APM is closer to 230 with my left/right strafe every second and clicking things a lot
I play like I have 4 hands
astral crystal
heh... nothin personnel kid... pvp shuffles to your sides in a pve encounter
serene jackal
anyone ever encounter the forum troll "Drezwazluz"? on the bnet forums?
ionic fern
I haven't checked bnet forums in a looooong time.
willow scarab
that's literally it hey
strong forum
If you don't pvp shuffle, do you even play the game
willow scarab
2005 stunlock shuffle
we all know it
revenge mousewheel down shield slam mousewheel up
about 600 APM from that alone
willow scarab
0.1% kiting necrotic
when i play bdk i just put my keyboard down and go have a smoke then the boss is dead and i got a 99 for healing
put this on my death strike keybind and i'm set
sand egret
If you dont pvp shuffle against stationary mobs...are you really playing the game?
sick sentinel
start of the raid's release
guild stack on opulence
people dying to lazer room
and I was like "if you stop adadadadadadadada-ing like 10 year olds with ADD we can probably see who the beam goes to"
and that's how we got past that room
livid totem
Thank you kaege. That's exactly what pisses me off when I see kids trying to meme SC2
golden dove
Omg its literally every dh ive played with
You dont play momentum anymore, stop moving
golden dove
To look edgy?
near ivy
to absorb their soul fragments
livid totem
don't worry, I do tend to think they're still "overdoing" it
brittle owl
why wouldnt you try to be an anime character when playing dh
vital surge
Hey guys got a question, i am pretty new on the warri Tank, but its so fun! I Kinda like Block Tanks the Most. yesterday i Started to gear and tried some m+ i got 370 gear and nice traits... my shild is poorly 340 gs 😭... i really struggeld with some trash in a +8 and 7.... is it just my shild or am i Bad 😄😄 when i Hit shield Block its a Bit better but i still got hittet like a Truck, especially in atal the mob packs before the Second Boss.... the heal was pretty Bad and we ended up to depleat the +8 and go +7 it was Bit better but still i got so hard hits
I Hope its just the shild, hopefully i get These weak a shild from m0.....
sick spindle
It's really a matter of keeping up 100% block at the right times, because a great shield doesn't prevent you from dying when you're not blocking with it. Check out rotation written guides or some youtube guides to see how you can maximize block uptime and go from there 😃
astral crystal
you need a bigger shield also
sick spindle
(via Shield Block and Last Stand)
astral crystal
even in +7/+8 block value is important
especially at your ilvl
i would suggest farming the 4 shield dungeons in m0 until you get one
keep an eye out for WQs etc
brittle owl
why didn't you push last week 🤔
brittle owl
weird
brittle owl
last week was giga ez for prot
sick sentinel
yeah, if the mobs died within a reasonable timeframe
brittle owl
both prots actually
brittle owl
not that much on woyer
did some 16-17's
was surprised
that i was stronger than pala-ish
sick sentinel
yeah around that level it's super chill
I went full crit as well
I was almost dropping stacks while facetanking
the thing is
fort is slow as fuck
brittle owl
depends on dps tbh
sick sentinel
my dps blast
brittle owl
like if you have doodoo dps, it's the most painful shit ever
sick sentinel
we never deplete because of lack of damage yet
we only deplete because of deaths
and shit
sick sentinel
(do not look at KR, we just timed a 20)
brittle owl
i dislike bursting weeks more than any fort combo
sick sentinel
temple we fucked up the 21 by ninjapulling in second boss room
and we got a 20 and we did with3,5 mins left but we did not get a 21 to go agane
and UR, again, we did not get a 21
sick sentinel
also our hunter is working now
brittle owl
more so than paladin
sick sentinel
so I could not get that binding shot action
and our monk is on his 2 week break
we got a boomie now tho
dude's an absolute blaster
second reaping on miniboss room he did 80k
brittle owl
ayyyyy
sick sentinel
reaping+archer and dino boy
and 50k burst on first boss
while also mass rooting
also, DO NOT SLEEP ON MOMENT OF GLORY HOLY FUCK
brittle owl
i like people that are not one dimensional
analog swift
dude moment of glory has saved so many keys
analog swift
so saucy
btw do you throw out intercepts in freehold at all?
bad question
first boss freehold
sick sentinel
I do when he is still on parrot
I have a intercept target of target button
and I press it after he shoots somebody
so in case he shoots him again
I will eat it instead
I did not run safeguard on the 20KR btw
and it was super fine
hidden linden
How do you have a "Intercept target of target" button? Would a /cast [@assist] Interception do the trick? I thought 'assist' was only working from friendly to hostile targets
sand egret
nope, because it's ~Intercept~, not ~Interception~. Unless you somehow drafted your prot war into the NFL
😃
timid jay
@targettarget should work
sick sentinel
I think it's in icyveins
hidden linden
Yeah w/e just writing from the top of my head
Okay
So there is an actual conditional
hidden linden
Thanks :)
timid jay
unless they changed macros since I quit 😂
hidden linden
It's cool to have an actual conditional
Will be able to macro it on the regular intercept
sick sentinel
My intercept is in shift q
sand egret
I imagine you could set up an alt/cntrl modifier on it
sick sentinel
My macro is in ctrl q
hidden linden
Yup that's exactly the idea
sand egret
so when pressed it goes to Target of Target
I had that a while ago, but i may still have it in my old macros tbh
hidden linden
Regular intercept <keybind> / Assist intercept <mod+keybind>
Probably will look like something like
/cast [mod:ctrl,@targettarget]Intercept; []Intercept
Throw in a help,nodead in there for good measure
timid jay
Dont need the [] before intercept I think
second one
/cast [mod:ctrl,@targettarget]Intercept; Intercept
hidden linden
I'm not sure anymore. I know I used not to use empty brackets, but I once had to, in order to reset the modifiers
timid jay
should work
hidden linden
So now I generally put them anyway
hidden linden
I think it's not, I have [nomod] macros on another character
By the way, I can't remember, but does intercept have a deadzone when used on friendly targets?
timid jay
no
hidden linden
Cool, thanks :)
timid jay
not unless they changed it since I quit 😉
stiff bear
so for m+ 15-18 keys.. 410 haste crit with socket ring, or 415 vers crit no socket.. ? lacking a bit haste as it is so is it better to go for stats than ilvl here`?
strong forum
A 410 haste ring is better than a 425 non haste ring, change my mind
sick sentinel
Depends
I still like ilvl
I have actively stopped getting haste
I don't even need to call for bark for mit gaps
On full time bosses
strong forum
Imagine having bark.
sick sentinel
That's when I know I have enough haste
strong forum
:pepehands:
sick sentinel
And when I can use SB for damage during LS or SW and be fine
strong forum
I have 6 sockets I could easily go for non haste rings, but I hate being below 1.5k
So yeah.
sick sentinel
I have a healthy amount of mastery as well
Like 600 or so
Because I use 2 bom
And eng helm
strong forum
300 mastery 300 versa God here
I'm uncertain about helmet, I could go jadefire, engi, seabrawler, soulspun casque or the atal helmet
strong forum
Idk been using engi since 8.1 launch
still aurora
Dwoorf
strong forum
Breh im dwarf
Just got seabrawler last week
So really don't know whether it's better than engi
strong forum
I can literally go 140% haste build
For full memes
With engi Helm and warden chest + rezans and rage
lime mantle
I go 3 BoM 3 DC
strong forum
That's too much memes
still aurora
I got a rage but don't use it. Can't APM fast enough lol
lime mantle
I clap.
strong forum
3x DC is too much of a meme for me
lime mantle
Let me OD on memes and claps.
lime mantle
The other traits are big “eeeeh” tho
lime mantle
P. Sure Mwahi proved that wrong
strong forum
No the math was 2x DC vs 1x IF
lime mantle
I could go IFx1 DC2 BoM 3
strong forum
And it's only like 20-30% stronger
lime mantle
But the meems are spicy
strong forum
But regardless im not using prot traits apart from 1x DC and 3x/2x BoM
Even using BfI + rezans fury for jaina
On helmet
lime mantle
Lel
strong forum
Rezans is 5% damgur
lime mantle
I try to go slashes instead of DC for raid tho
strong forum
Ontop of SS being able to crit for 40k
So that helmet is huge ST ontop of getting IV
Dunno why not more people are using atal helmet for ST parsing tbh
BfI + rezans + OP, sounds giga to me
Literally 5% from rezans fury alone
lime mantle
I don’t have a parse hat ;-;
strong forum
Git gud 😏
sick sentinel
3DC 🤢
manic cypress
Hi friends! Any prot warriors here do mythic stormwall and have to do the ire soaking? Free for a quick chat?
manic cypress
not yet.. are u able to assist =p
ionic fern
Jeah, i was solo soaking on our kill.
honest frigate
This week is great so far
sick sentinel
@willow scarab kr over by 1 min
willow scarab
Every single key that would have been io
willow scarab
bricked
sick sentinel
The only 2 keys I've done this week
willow scarab
All I've timed is shit that's not worth io
and even that's messy
2x 21 AD, 1x 21 FH timed but like who cares about those they're just pushing keys up
Bad start to the week
willow scarab
I don't like diamond that much
and went against idol incase i killed someone when we're already dying from 5+ bursting that we staggered like idiots
If I don't break 3k i'll probably delete my warrior
honest frigate
I’m using idol this week
The damage is largely insignificant unless you go 10+ bursting
And it’s especially strong if your group mates have immunities for when bursting goes that high
brittle owl
this week is one of the only weeks you get to kill people with idol doe 😆
lime mantle
@sick sentinel I also have 4% leech
lime mantle
I want to make you feel nauseated, I see I failed
sick sentinel
Is there a leech cap?
mortal brook
20%
sick sentinel
Shit dude
mortal brook
at least in hfc
sick sentinel
And an avoidance cap is 10% right?
open bluff
Avoidance is also 20 iirc
mortal brook
idk. but i also had the m wf archi trinket, so i was literally an unkillable god in ashran. would drop in on 40 man hydra premades and murder them all
willow scarab
I wish I was that good but I quit when ToV came out
mortal brook
I havent been good since hfc, no worries
tribal basin
Hey guys
can any of you tell me what the exact percentages are that I should have on my Stats?
Mastery, Haste, Crit and Verse.
Thanks a lot
mortal brook
mortal brook
blobs in shrine were changed not to give bursting i believe
sick sentinel
@daring bay spell reflect works
willow scarab
that is correct
daring bay
Oh nice! so if i have SR on i wont even get ehm? :O
mortal brook
1 stack
mortal brook
bursting skittish this week
tribal basin
Thanks Steve!
willow scarab
tfw your ele ditches you for a 3200 tank
big deplete day feeling all that more sour now
worthy dagger
a prot war with 20% leech 🤔
willow scarab
is your mog the lgbt flag
mortal brook
i mean yeah, rainbows were a thing and aesthetically pleasing before the lgbt movement but sure its a flag
sand egret
i respect the coordination and gradients
willow scarab
amazing
sick sentinel
@daring bay spell reflect is just a 20% damage reduction
rancid palm
How much is socket worth in ilvl? I usually count it as 5 for gear and 15 for rings
sand egret
i'd go 0/10 for that personally
sudden kayak
hey im 394 i plused 2 a 9 freehold as prot do u think my ilevel is good enough for a 10er the adding affix will be reaping
sand egret
most def
sudden kayak
kk guna try it
sand egret
the gear won't be the issue
it'll be your understanding of what changes with reaping
aka pay attention to your %
sudden kayak
yea
sand egret
other than that Reaping is really just A) spam tclap B) pray your healer dispells you on cooldown and C) don't stand in Shadow Smash
sudden kayak
kk will do
sand egret
gl
sudden kayak
ty
sick sentinel
@rancid palm check pms
jaunty aspen
hi guys help decide pls got a 410 rezans just now wearing 400+socket rezans which is better ?
sick sentinel
400+s
jaunty aspen
thx and make my sad too now my weekly item goes to scrapbot