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weary dagger
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Damn maybe I need to give it a go on my prot for the progress then

ancient tartan
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You should pull his rasta logs and see if he did the same.thing

weary dagger
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yea it was pretty much the same

sand egret
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why not? tanking is the best role

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not biased or anything.....

primal sable
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Raid tanking is boring

exotic spoke
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I hate tanking that fight though

sand egret
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prob true

exotic spoke
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I can’t see a god damn thing

sand egret
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I haven't stepped foot in a raid since like Gul'dan

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sans the mog runs, obvi

primal sable
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I've been asked to tank mythic mekka and im only doing it for the banter in voice comms tbh

weary dagger
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well yea prob is well need to find a new good dps then hehe

small flicker
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is there a metric to measure survival for tanks or is it just dps?

sand egret
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not really, no

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at least, not one that is more universal

exotic spoke
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did they die like a bitch?

primal sable
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Ask Mr robot Kappa

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But no, unironically

weary dagger
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But yea thanks to you all for the input, hopefully he'll be open to critisicm. Cheers

sand egret
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good luck

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worst part of bad tanks is their ability to mitigate 100% of criticism

exotic spoke
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Yup

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Hence the nuke it from orbit if you possess the ability to do so

sand egret
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not that I'm at fault for this or anything.....

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but those other bad tanks...

exotic spoke
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Their aren’t any other bad tanks if you nuke them from orbit

sand egret
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I see you switched to LFD then....

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going for that real DPS parse

exotic spoke
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Lol

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I do heroic occasionally.

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Didnit Sunday for the first time in weeks

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Met some cool people

sand egret
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Lightforged Draenei = LFD in my context

exotic spoke
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Ohhhhhh

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Nah still DiD

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Better parses in m+ this week if I can stay in melee range longer

smoky iris
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earthlink even worth the trait?

chilly brook
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@old night just dropped $700 on a G85 and a glidecam

sand egret
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these new item procs are pretty sweet

primal sable
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earthlink is ok

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you probably want Overwhelming power if you can get it

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idk, i'd rather have OP than earthlink tbh

sand egret
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" Ashvane's Bloodthirsty Coral: 10% of incoming damage is stored as Healing Blood, up to 87150 total. You are healed for 14525 every 5 sec, while blood remains." - I like the idea

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Orgozoa's Paralytic Barb: Pierce your skin with paralytic spines, decreasing your damage done and damage taken by 10% for 15 sec. (2 Min Cooldown) - on a weapon also seems pretty sweet

turbid girder
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im a prot war, why would i sacrifice dps for dmg reduction?

sand egret
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because you're smart

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and not a dumb reroller

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😄

primal sable
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if you die theres no dps

sand egret
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^ ding ding ding

ebon hound
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unable to process

turbid girder
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i usally dont die, though its mostly heroic farm and 14-15 keystones i do

sand egret
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id argue you aren't doing hard enough content then

primal sable
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just like, block and you'll be fine

turbid girder
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i mean a 420 shield does a lot of blocking with ip on top of it

sand egret
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alas, what if there was a damage type that you couldnt block but had to mitigate anyway...yet you had a 100% free additional cooldown to deal with it

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what if.....

turbid girder
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spell block?

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you act like prot wars need cds, we dont

primal sable
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well not in 14-15s

sand egret
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^

turbid girder
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i mean if i was really worried about my survival a veild eye or a diamond laced refracter seems like a better choice as a haste monster

sand egret
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the fact that a free 10% mitigation on an item is a bad thing to a tank, is what confuses me.

turbid girder
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its not free, i lose 10% dps

sand egret
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it is free

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it's on your sword

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that you can choose to use

turbid girder
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its not free, i lose 10% dps

sand egret
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sigh

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nvm

turbid girder
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wait, are you unaware of trade offs?

sand egret
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the memes are heavy with this one

oblique garnet
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@sand egret You got tldr of the new essences somewhere?

sand egret
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naw, but I think there's a wowhead post with the updates

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i'm talkin about the new raid items

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they just posted them and like CoS, lotta activated ones.

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but a few noticeable nerfs are in to the essences, it would seem (assuming tooltip changes are legit)

turbid girder
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yeah they increased the time between procts on a few dps essences

sand egret
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Visions got clipped pretty hard

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still gonna be good, but uptime may not be as absurd

turbid girder
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looks like rank 3 and 4 of visions actually got bufeed

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buffed*

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oh nevermind lul

mortal brook
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the 10s cd reduction on proc is removed, in favor of a group haste buff

turbid girder
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yeah feelsfuckingbad

old night
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@chilly brook ooooOOOOoooo

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I love my glidecam

neon tangle
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Who would have imagined that 90% buff uptime was going to get nerfed

oblique garnet
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Gotta wait and see how the essences turn out to figure out whats best

small flicker
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is crystaline carapice just bad if we wanna do M+ since we need the dps? its so weird

oblique garnet
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No

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Its not bad???

small flicker
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is earthlink ebtter?

neon tangle
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No

oblique garnet
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And we dont need the dps

warm plinth
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We get deeps by default from our booty claps 😉

oblique garnet
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We get the dps by proper play

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Ive been pugging some keys lately as dps and the amount of warriors who dont do their rotation correctly makes me feel bad

lusty grotto
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ayo

sand egret
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you'd be surprised what "average play" actually means.

lusty grotto
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what did i miss

warm plinth
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I like when I have a prot tank and at the end of the dungeon they have 26% SB uptime

sand egret
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hint: it's way worse than you think

lusty grotto
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voices getting nerfed?

oblique garnet
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I know blade i know

sand egret
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Visions is, yes

warm plinth
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How did they nerf it?

lusty grotto
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ah, water is wet i suppose

oblique garnet
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And the worst part is

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They are giga geared

sand egret
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no CDR on the minor

oblique garnet
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And around 1.5-2k io

warm plinth
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Ah

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So if we use the major we'll still get some increased uptime via the proc, but no more 70% uptime dream?

sand egret
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scratch that

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the Major got nerfed

warm plinth
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Shield Wall instead of Ava?

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😮

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Lol

undone sun
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🤣

sand egret
lusty grotto
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pack it up rerollers !

sand egret
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so no more compounding uptime

warm plinth
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Wait, wasn't it always a chance to proc it?

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On the major

undone sun
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yeh

sand egret
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chance yes, the change was that when it procs, you don't get reduction on your actual cooldown

oblique garnet
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Its still avatar right

warm plinth
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Yeah but the CD reduction was the minor part I thought

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The major is the same as it has been; they just fixed the typo

sand egret
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well, it compounds

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not only do you get more Avatar via the proc itself (therefore more Rage thus AM yadayada) but it also did a flat reduction

oblique garnet
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I dont think it will be that big of an nerf

sand egret
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it's still very strong, just not as strong

oblique garnet
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I mean

sand egret
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in the more extreme RNG cases

oblique garnet
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It wasnt strong

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It was broken

sand egret
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Late....

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I ain't going into that one lol

warm plinth
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Yeah, 70% uptime on Avatar was basically negating the UF nerf and then some.

sand egret
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but you forgot a "Nah"

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😛

warm plinth
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Yeah, he did.

oblique garnet
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Another 2 weeks

warm plinth
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And we get haste from the minor now which isn't bad at all

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I would say it's probably more than 15 :p

sand egret
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naw thats the major still

sick sentinel
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Sphere got gimped pretty hard

warm plinth
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Er yeah

sick sentinel
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no longer gives the atk speed reduction on enemies, and haste value cut in half

warm plinth
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So basically a small haste buff during Ava

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Ava procs*

sand egret
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minor is flat cdr on the ability and when you cast it/it procs you get the heal

undone sun
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still sounds pretty good

sand egret
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  • some vers
warm plinth
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Gotcha. So is the minor still the flat CDR?

sand egret
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"but not strong" - prob Late

warm plinth
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I'm now understanding what you were saying earlier; I didn't realize there was CDR on both parts

sand egret
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yarrr

lusty grotto
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prot done, go home rerollers

oblique garnet
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  1. not stronk
undone sun
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👏

sand egret
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i'm mad Sphere got clipped

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removed the 8% attack speed reduction off the minor 😦

sick sentinel
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ay blade

oblique garnet
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Isnt there

lusty grotto
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im kidding plsnoban

oblique garnet
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Leech essence?

sick sentinel
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did you see my tag?

sand egret
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nej

sick sentinel
sand egret
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yumm

oblique garnet
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Also kage

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Whar did you get

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From the chest

sick sentinel
lusty grotto
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😮

sand egret
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this fuckign dingleberry

lusty grotto
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can i have

oblique garnet
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😪

sand egret
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"sucks" - prob Late

lusty grotto
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hella sucks, give it to me

oblique garnet
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I think its time for me to go to sleep

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For good

undone sun
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mood

warm plinth
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Woah

sick sentinel
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this is my first upgrade from the chest this season

oblique garnet
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Imagine waking up when the raid starts to a phone call ”Wake up raid is now”

lusty grotto
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we need to have kaege bless our chests

warm plinth
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How you gonna do vods though 🤔

sand egret
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that sounds awful

exotic spoke
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I’ve done it

sick sentinel
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it was my gf that blessed my chest

undone sun
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that exact thing happened to me in HFC @oblique garnet

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i have slept through raid too

lusty grotto
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can your gf bless my chest tho

sick sentinel
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yesterday she said I would get a ring

oblique garnet
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Same thyme

sand egret
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👀

lusty grotto
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😎

oblique garnet
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I was half asleep the first 4 bosses

sick sentinel
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and she told me to rally, reck , heroic leap and open the chest

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and I did it

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and I got it

undone sun
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more often than not woke up right before it too

exotic spoke
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They didn’t need me at first - gave them my number

Slept and they said it took like 10 minutes to wake me up

undone sun
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so glad im no longer raiding

sand egret
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Kaege, you sure she's not implying something else.....

lusty grotto
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😎

sick sentinel
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I mean she has mentioned Kaege jr. more than twice and I am a bit scared tbh

sand egret
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Kaege: "I GOT THE RING"
GF: "yeah....woooo that ring"

lusty grotto
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does she mention nimc...stewart though

oblique garnet
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Was asking for ironbark on 3 bosses only to realize on conclave that we had no druids

exotic spoke
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Rofl

sand egret
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plot twist

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Kaege Jr. IS Stewart

lusty grotto
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i can only imagine late yelling at the non existant druids

oblique garnet
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Actually surprised that i didnt miss a taunt on grong

exotic spoke
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A guild on my server in vanilla had a phone tree for world bosses

lusty grotto
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"youre done druids, pack your bags"

sand egret
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lol "YA"LL SUCK AT KEEPING HOTS UP"

exotic spoke
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Middle of a night calling people for green dragons

oblique garnet
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Waking up from deep sleep only to have to raid 2 minutes after

sand egret
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"I haven't seen a SINGLE Lifebloom all night!"

exotic spoke
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There’s also a recording of the raid leader calling someone’s parents to get them online

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Posing as if he was a classmate asking for help on a physics problem

oblique garnet
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Xd

exotic spoke
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Let me find it

oblique garnet
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Nono

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My nap lasted longer than i expected

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So that kinda happened

sick sentinel
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I was searching for a screenshot

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I found it

oblique garnet
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No

sand egret
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I also like how due to that super baity wowhead article, people think we're going to maybe get an essence that allows pvp traits in pve encounters....like wut

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Talk about a clickbait title

exotic spoke
sinful vortex
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azerite veins or OP for raid tanking?

sick sentinel
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op imo

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** fuck azerite veins ** tbh

sinful vortex
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true

mortal brook
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az veins is poop in a raid setting. goes away when you're topped? never get full value

sick sentinel
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it is poop in mplus

mortal brook
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basically only not poop with Protector of the Pack

sick sentinel
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what's that

sand egret
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🐻

mortal brook
sick sentinel
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oh

mortal brook
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only time you'd get full effect from Az veins lol

sick sentinel
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pvp talent

sand egret
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that AV pvp value 😃

sick sentinel
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or being a brm

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I guess

sand egret
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it's good for 1 poiint on brm

mortal brook
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totes bugged atm, you can have the talent active

undone sun
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pvp 🤣

sand egret
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but yeah AV is basically the trait that got 90% there and before they could put the last finishing touch on it, "Pencils down!" was called

mortal brook
sand egret
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basically

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just needed one fucking condition to make it great

lusty grotto
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you guys wanna see some alliance toxicity on a stream?

sand egret
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AV shoulda been reverse Grevious Wounds

lusty grotto
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gotta roll some keys on me rogue

sand egret
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ticks, and refreshes its 3 second duration if you're <= 99% HHP

exotic spoke
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Yeah boy

lusty grotto
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carry me riki

exotic spoke
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Can I mock you if you die this time nim?

lusty grotto
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yes

exotic spoke
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It’s a Civ night tonight

lusty grotto
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yeah its civ night of carrying nimchy lets go

exotic spoke
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Literally logging in for first boss heroic - loot spec of arms to try to toss an alt a weapon - then off to play Civ

lusty grotto
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spicy 10 UR

exotic spoke
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I’ll carry you through deity in Civ

lusty grotto
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you know you wanna

sand egret
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I, too, have a riveting night planned of watching paint dry.

exotic spoke
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I had a bad UR experience last week

lusty grotto
sand egret
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bring my huntard!

exotic spoke
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Wow blade - I thought we shared something with #LastStandForVic

undone sun
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imo all UR are bad experiences

sand egret
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I don't mind UR....

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= /

lusty grotto
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hey! UR was my first 15+

exotic spoke
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UR isn’t bad in a group

sand egret
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i hate Shrine far more than UR

exotic spoke
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Give me a few and maybe I have enough time pre raid

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Shrine is easy now blade

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I thought the same thing

lusty grotto
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HEY

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no declining

mortal brook
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^.^

exotic spoke
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IM NOT FUCKING HOME YET

sand egret
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well I pug, so Shrine is cancer

lusty grotto
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damn it steve lol

exotic spoke
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Did he apply?

lusty grotto
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he jebaited me

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i spy a bladesong

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LMAO blade

sand egret
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WOOOOO

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373 fatty deeps inc

exotic spoke
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Can you put together a group capable of finishing it in about 25 minutes. It so sure I’ll do it.

If not - just know at 830 I gotta kill a heroic boss rq

lusty grotto
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lets do it boys

exotic spoke
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I’ll be on in about 10

lusty grotto
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lmao

sand egret
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ghahaha

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ill shit on that noob's dps

exotic spoke
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Ducking kick that kid

sand egret
undone sun
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ducking

sand egret
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all the deeps ya need

exotic spoke
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Auto correct 😦

undone sun
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🦆 quacker

sand egret
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and a bear tank representing. This is going to be a magical run

exotic spoke
undone sun
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yes

exotic spoke
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Oh. Ok

lusty grotto
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alright we're timing this in the name of riki

sand egret
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if we time this

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imma laugh

lusty grotto
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dont lose faith

exotic spoke
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Be on shortly if you need me But it sounds like a solid group /s

lusty grotto
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riki dont bet on us, there's no stewart

sand egret
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just dont pull over 4 mobs

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i lose my aoe

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LOL

lusty grotto
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ok instant invite

exotic spoke
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No but seriously - I’ll be on in like 5

sand egret
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Nim just filled the group REAL fast

exotic spoke
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But at 830 indisappear

lusty grotto
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lets hope nobody inspects blade

sand egret
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shhhh

lusty grotto
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AHAHAH

sand egret
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or notices the 152k hp....

lusty grotto
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half the group just left lmao

sand egret
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LAME

oblique garnet
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@exotic spoke civ5?

exotic spoke
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6

oblique garnet
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😪

exotic spoke
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Sorry man. It’s pretty good now

oblique garnet
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So ive heard

exotic spoke
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I don’t even remember picking up the base game but I did at some point

oblique garnet
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Cant afford it rn tho

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I mean its on sale rn

exotic spoke
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Something something steam sales?

oblique garnet
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30€ for everything

exotic spoke
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Yeah I mean I think I picked it up on sale

lusty grotto
sand egret
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I LIKED THEM

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had spunk

oblique garnet
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Nim

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Is that alliance

lusty grotto
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ding ding

oblique garnet
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Friendship over

sand egret
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did you NOT see my glorious beast??!1

oblique garnet
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Im sorry my brain ignores all images of alliances

exotic spoke
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About to log in

lusty grotto
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shit man, use a stamina flask

sand egret
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oooh shit good call

lusty grotto
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lmao

sand egret
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i think I can afford one of those

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gotta try and get that ilvl gains on my neck O_O

lusty grotto
sand egret
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straight up haters.

oblique garnet
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Your hunters name

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Is rigatony?

sand egret
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ofc

oblique garnet
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Nice

autumn fog
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So, I’m having a probably uncommon issue (might be common idk) I’m about 366ilvl and my prot Warr is my first tank exp at max level. Why am I having rage generation issues?

sand egret
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not using your rage generating abilities optimally/wasting rage

autumn fog
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I do fine during trash. It’s bosses that are a problem

oblique garnet
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Wrong talents?

autumn fog
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Nah I’ve got the talent icy veins says.

uneven swan
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too much revenge in your rotation?

autumn fog
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rush -taunt - ss - demo rage/shout whatever - rotation

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I try not to use revenge unless it procs or I cap out

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Just my opener I take a massive hit before I can SB

oblique garnet
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Avatar>charge into sb

warm plinth
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You should be doing Intercept+Avatar+Block

autumn fog
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Ahhh ok that makes more sense

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I usually try to get demo out first before avatar for TC damage

warm plinth
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Intercept+Avatar+Block>TC>Demo>TC etc

autumn fog
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Doesn’t help my stress tests have been 4+ keys w two geared DH.

warm plinth
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Yeah that makes it tough to hold aggro lol

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Even for us

autumn fog
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Lmao a little. Makes learning tanking a damage.

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Sanguine week was a bad time to start too.

sand egret
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yeah....not the best week to cut your teeth

autumn fog
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Ty for the input tho

sand egret
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esp if you're lesser geared meaning you're going to kite more = less time getting rage/dps/threat

autumn fog
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Yeahhhh. Necrotic week is gonna be rough too when it comes

warm plinth
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Isn't it Sang/Necro right now?

sand egret
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it's this week? or are you not at that key yet

warm plinth
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Oh you're only doing 4s, nvm

autumn fog
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While I’m here, what wep should I aim for? The mace from Atal?

warm plinth
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The highest ilevel one

autumn fog
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Oof. You’re correct.

sand egret
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highest ilvl, tbh

small flicker
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bwonsadi ignore death once or 1000 crit ( 10% parry) every few seconds?

warm plinth
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Bargain sucks

lusty grotto
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haha @exotic spoke you missed the priest going off

sand egret
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block/prism no brainer @small flicker

small flicker
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bargain is that bad?

sand egret
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yes.

exotic spoke
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What did he say?

sand egret
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said Nim was toxic

warm plinth
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Nim is toxic though. Stewart is the nice one of the pair.

lusty grotto
warm plinth
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lolol

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You guys are on Alliance?

lusty grotto
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ya

warm plinth
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But why are you on Alliance while I'm working 😢

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Fucking conspiracy

lusty grotto
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this was a spur of the moment thing 😦

sand egret
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it went from troll Nim > hmm wonder if I can get a 10 done on this dood 😃

warm plinth
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lol

sand egret
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Nim REALLY doesn't like Alliance tho

lusty grotto
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i will carry you blade

sand egret
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bitch imma carry YOU

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im flasking

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its on

lusty grotto
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wait do you have a stewart

sand egret
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as my bow?

lusty grotto
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of course

sand egret
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CAN YOU?!

lusty grotto
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if you put your heart on it, you can do anything

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is that how it goes?

sand egret
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boom 160k hp

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fucking tank status

lusty grotto
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ayo wheres that stevepally tho

willow scarab
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It is weird to bring up alliance as if the players are that different

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I’d call someone weird if they spoke like that too

sand egret
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You ain't wrong, Nim IS weird

lusty grotto
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in my experience, yes they are

willow scarab
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It’s like when you do a bg and someone says “typical X faction always losing”

lusty grotto
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this is NA alliance

willow scarab
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NA alliance worse than OCE alliance

lusty grotto
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obviously

willow scarab
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But doesn’t make it not weird to say

oblique garnet
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Everyone knows eu alliance is a joke aswell 8)

sand egret
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but see, this is tactical

lusty grotto
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idk man

sand egret
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if he makes fun of the alliance

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they dont inspect me

lusty grotto
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ya its the kansas shuffle tactics

willow scarab
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In that case it’s genius 🤪

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If I was home I could tank for you

sand egret
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cuz they too busy talking to this idiot to notice my 160k hp

willow scarab
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Has anyone done a key on their monk this week

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It feels like necrotic doesn’t even exist

sand egret
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i avoid my monk like the plague....but I may consider it this week

willow scarab
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They’re definitely meant for raid tanking only

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But I gotta get those leather stack sales somehow

sand egret
#

it is aids pugging M+ with em

oblique garnet
#

Monk isnt bad

willow scarab
#

I don’t think I’ve pugged a key in like 6 months

sand egret
#

but it doesn't help that I still have a 370 weapon at 405

willow scarab
#

Dude

sand egret
#

so that on top of monk

#

yeahh....

willow scarab
#

I had a 340 wep at 407ilvl

small flicker
#

druid is amazing for warrior tanks

sand egret
#

not really gunning to get on that keg smasher

willow scarab
#

Until last night

oblique garnet
#

Oh you didnt have a weapon cache in NA?

willow scarab
#

Now I have a 400

#

Was using that 340 from the AH for months

sand egret
#

oh shit we got people. in a group. that haven't left yet.

lusty grotto
#

see that

#

i said hi

#

and nothing

sand egret
#

they are pretty cold 'round here...

#

just gotta get them to start the key before they notice...

#

VICTORY

oblique garnet
#

They will leave

grave marsh
#

is there a good resource for learning to tank somewhere?

timber nest
#

is the frost nova from the tide elemental a interruptable cast?

grave marsh
#

Like somewhere I can find someone talking about the proper mindset and some addons/Weakauras for mythic +?

oblique garnet
#

This discord probably

proud ermine
#

@timber nest there's no frost nova cast. It's just the normal uninterruptible volley cast

#

(I think)

oblique garnet
#

Tide elemental?

#

On jaina or what

proud ermine
#

I was assuming he was talking about the tide ele on jaina

#

The nerf is actually disgusting.

oblique garnet
#

I mean it only has one interruptable cast

#

So the nerf is basically until she gets interrupted no stacks?

proud ermine
#

Like any difficulty is gone, makes reclears so easy now

#

Just the hp

#

Phase one change of the ballista

#

No icefall during winds

#

And the stack change

#

Trivialized the entire fight

oblique garnet
#

Yup

proud ermine
#

Like the statistic of people who have killed M Jaina since nerf has sky rocketed

exotic spoke
#

Isn’t the joke - Ions guild got to it - nerf whatever mythic boss is causing problems?

proud ermine
#

Yeah

#

That's the joke

sand egret
#

OH LOOK ITS RIKI

exotic spoke
#

It’s funny cause it’s true

sand egret
#

NOT KILLING THE BOSS

exotic spoke
#

WHERE?

#

ahh nah man. That boss is dead. Loading up Civ

timber nest
#

@oblique garnet my guilds opted to just burn the tide ele over nathanos and then kill the 2 as were running to the boss to interrupt. but last pull we had a frosatr nova go off just as she was casting frozen orb. and we got splashed by heart.

proud ermine
#

You need to interrupt

#

The volleys

#

You can hold the interrupy

#

NtiUntil the elves are dead

timber nest
#

so if they get a volley off, they also frozen nova?

proud ermine
#

Until

#

Eles*

lusty grotto
#

dang riki

#

i see how it is

proud ermine
#

Like legit. Just don't interrupt boss.

exotic spoke
#

I told you it is Civ night/. We get like 1 night a week for the group of us to play Civ

sand egret
#

I'm out here, doing 101 parses

lusty grotto
#

i gotta be honest i didnt even know civ was a multiplayer game

sand egret
#

no love

exotic spoke
lusty grotto
#

i thought it was single player only

oblique garnet
#

Riki im gonna ninja join you and school you 8)

exotic spoke
#

We’re mid deity game. So good luck :).

10 deity comp vs us

lusty grotto
#

do you guys like... send your entire societies against gods

#

that's horrible

sand egret
#

pretty messed u

#

ya know what's not messed up?

#

doing a UR with pals

lusty grotto
oblique garnet
#

Wow

exotic spoke
#

Lol

oblique garnet
#

Riki left?

exotic spoke
#

What happened there

#

I had a prior commitment

lusty grotto
#

yes riki wiped on reap + trash after 1st boss

oblique garnet
#

Yikes

exotic spoke
#

Rofl

sick sentinel
#

do you know what is better than +9 with pals?

oblique garnet
#

Playing on EU

exotic spoke
#

Civ 6?

sand egret
#

nothing.

sick sentinel
#

MAX EFFORT

oblique garnet
#

Id approve that riki if you said civ5

sand egret
#

i like that group

lusty grotto
#

look at that awesome hunter

sand egret
#

Who is that hunter?!

oblique garnet
#

Blade play bm

#

You would out dps nim

lusty grotto
#

wdf

sand egret
#

that would require me to play.....BM....

lusty grotto
#

damn it if only i had daggers

oblique garnet
#

Bm is chill

sand egret
#

BM has a pet

#

only reason I play MM is cuz I can get rid of my pet

oblique garnet
#

Old man

sand egret
#

why would I want to play a spec, that just orders an NPC to do shit for them

lusty grotto
#

hmm...

sick sentinel
#

it's nice tho

oblique garnet
#

Because it actually does damage in m+

sand egret
#

uh SEE MY EPIC SCREENSHOT

oblique garnet
#

Yes and i can go to my 340 mage and do that?

#

Whats the difference

sand egret
#

Rigatony is perfect

sick sentinel
#

wait wait I have a better one

#

even better than a +12 maximum effort

#

are you ready?

oblique garnet
#

Ah yes

spice ferry
#

jesus prog is 3/9 normal

oblique garnet
#

The infamous argent dawn

lusty grotto
#

😮

sick sentinel
#

ay nim

#

do you want a screenshot for your screenshot folder?

lusty grotto
#

ya

sick sentinel
lusty grotto
#

lol

oblique garnet
#

But they are tho

#

Hes not wrong

#

It has alot of numbers and math and im bad at maths 8)

undone sun
#

😂

sick sentinel
#

going through my screenshot folder rn

sand egret
#

I love that one

sick sentinel
solar delta
#

Azerite Veins or Overwhelming Power?

sick sentinel
#

OP

lusty grotto
#

20 mins later

#

0 tanks that wanna be pals

lavish oracle
#

It fully depends, StiffMyWiff

#

I switch to Azerite Veins on Grievous and Bursting weeks normally

sand egret
#

who needs classic when you can recruit old school....sit in front of the zone and try to poach people in /say

lusty grotto
#

lmao

oblique garnet
#

Hey thats actually what happened to me when i was afking in tiragarde

lusty grotto
#

compare this to horde blade

#

i wish i was joking

sand egret
#

well, it's not a strong showing

#

but I haven't done a +9 on horde in a while, esp not as a tank haha

lusty grotto
#

hmm

#

well to be fair

#

i queue low 10s for my brother as a tank so

sand egret
#

this IS like my 5th time dpsing a key...ever

#

so sitting in queues isn't really a thing in my world

oblique garnet
#

Im telling you nimchy you gotta get in on that eu train

#

Ill tank for you bby😘

lusty grotto
#

lol

sick sentinel
#

Gf is trying to form an alliance mplus group at 4 am

oblique garnet
#

Transfer your dh to alliance and tank for her

sick sentinel
#

I told her I would lvl a dh to olay with her

oblique garnet
#

Why level

#

When you could transfer

sick sentinel
#

Because I might main dh on horde for 8.2

#

Vergence is going to be meta kappa

oblique garnet
#

Sometimes you have to make compromises

formal kayak
#

guys

#

I know I just asked you this today

#

but

fringe trout
#

we're just not that into you

formal kayak
#

twist

#

idol has leech

sand egret
#

Id go block and idol

formal kayak
sand egret
#

this week, maybe alchemist

#

instead of idol

formal kayak
#

I just saw the leech only now ><

sand egret
#

well, either way it doesn't mean diddlysquat this week

sick sentinel
#

Stone goreblock

#

This week

formal kayak
#

cuz of necrotic right?

sand egret
#

yar

sick sentinel
#

Next week when necrotic is over you can go idol goreblock if you want

lusty grotto
#

how long has it been blade

sick sentinel
#

Up to preference

lusty grotto
#

it feels like 11 years

sand egret
#

legit 1.5 hours

formal kayak
#

alright thanks

lusty grotto
#

dang

sand egret
#

well at least an hour, Riki had to go at 8:30

lusty grotto
#

well at least we got 2 pals

sand egret
#

yeah, the irony of being in a tank discord....waiting on a tank

lusty grotto
#

lol

sand egret
#

this suuucks haha

lusty grotto
#

i think i might go into my warrior and be a pal to some sub 10s

sand egret
#

right?

#

we should just go apply to some sub 10s

#

make someone's day

lusty grotto
#

err sorry not into, that sounds wrong. shes a qt tho

sick sentinel
#

After 84 years I finally did it bois

#

Now I can focus on getting my aotc for my warrior

#

And also I can stop playing Balance just for Kings Rest

sand egret
#

sees druid
😃
sees Boomkin
😭

sick sentinel
#

Oh I only play balance because of King's Rest

lusty grotto
#

we're jebaiting a pal tank into freehold

sick sentinel
#

Why?

sand egret
#

shhh

#

hunting for pals

sick sentinel
#

lol

ebon lagoon
#

Ok, I'm 110 now, I'm standing in Nelth's Vault, can't find the shield and no emote, but both macros I'm using tell me 'go to the cave and look around', wtf?

sand egret
#

can only do it once per day

sick sentinel
#

False postives can happen

#

Had it happen to me a few times

ebon lagoon
lusty grotto
#

hmm

sick sentinel
#

Also feel bad for the casters that i got this sought after trinket that I got the very first time I did Heroic OP with Balance loot set

lusty grotto
#

sometimes they spawned in the dungeon

sick sentinel
#

OH NO I DE'D IT

stoic pilot
#

is there any way to reposition the way jaina is facing during avalanche?

#

sometimes i'm able to taunt and spin her so the follow up freezing blast isnt in the raid, and sometimes she ignores it

oblique garnet
#

Its just

#

Rng

stoic pilot
#

seriously?

#

that's actually so stupid

oblique garnet
#

Well yes and no

sick sentinel
#

She's a strong independent woman

#

That does whatever she wants

sand egret
oblique garnet
#

Iirc she targets the freezing shit right after the avalanche on the tank that previously held aggro but uhh

#

Even thats not 100%

#

Sooo

sick sentinel
#

Lmao @sand egret

stoic pilot
#

yeah it's just sometimes during channel im actually able to taunt and turn her around during avalanche channel

#

while im not the avalanche target

#

so stupid that it works 50%

ebon lagoon
#

Ok, I read that I need to read Saga of the Valarjar, do I just need to do it once in general or once each day before checking?

sand egret
#

dont need to re-read it every time

ebon lagoon
#

Ok.

oblique garnet
#

What does the artifact even look like

#

Is it the flaming dark shield

#

Like deathwing style?

ebon lagoon
#

Yeah

#

I figured it'd look sick with the DI heritage armor

oblique garnet
#

Wailing caverns shield is the best shield

lusty grotto
#

excuse me @exotic spoke but did you kill your gods already

oblique garnet
#

No

#

Beating 10 deity difficulty bots wont be 1-2 hour game

still aurora
#

Got a Bloodsport trait, from what I can tell it's mid pack ok for m+

#

Would it be worth swapping for a dps trait like rezans?

oblique garnet
#

Whats your options

#

On the piece

warm plinth
#

For M+ loot, it's 1 per person up to +13 in time right? Before it'll give loot to someone twice?

lusty grotto
#

we did it!

sand egret
#

omg

#

that was a fucking SAGA

ivory barn
warm plinth
#

Why in the world are you 404 out of almost 4155

#

415*

sick sentinel
#

Leech

warm plinth
#

🗞

#

I trust him; he's using quick nav

sick sentinel
#

Do you really? Hes using crit gems

ivory barn
#

cause im fury and this is an off set, but i would like to get into keys more so im thinking of switching to prot

sick sentinel
#

Then go haste, and go ur highest ilvl

oblique garnet
#

Also

#

Big red?

#

Really?

warm plinth
#

I mean Kaege uses crit gems too

sick sentinel
#

And hes wrong

oblique garnet
#

Hes not

#

He has absurd amount of haste with crit gems

ivory barn
#

do i not have enough haste either?

sick sentinel
#

Is that haste with any stacks of ITF?

ivory barn
#

no

sick sentinel
#

Also, hes wrong

warm plinth
#

Kaege has 18.84% haste without ITF stacks with crit gems

lusty grotto
#

oh hey @sand egret how long has it been

warm plinth
#

Which is insane

#

And 27.43% crit

ivory barn
#

^ that shot above has 0 ITF stacks

sand egret
#

Oh hai

warm plinth
#

The fuck you have 20% haste without ITF?

oblique garnet
#

Easily

warm plinth
#

And with crit gems

#

D:

sand egret
#

2 hours later

ivory barn
#

I played fury....

sand egret
#

UR is DOWN

#

thanks for playing

warm plinth
#

I'm jelly

sick sentinel
#

Its easy to get Haste to about 20%

oblique garnet
#

^

lusty grotto
#

hmm i have 23% crit without crit gems

#

17% haste without itf though

oblique garnet
#

When you drop ilvl for haste gear it tends to happen

warm plinth
#

I guess getting better stats is what happens when you play the game eh Late?

#

Might have to consider it 🤔

ivory barn
#

i have 20% crit/ 20% haste/ 29% mastery/3% vers in that photo.

#

change it all to haste gems still?

sick sentinel
#

Personally id say yes

ivory barn
#

I'm looking for a way to get into +10's easy and not play fury anymore tbh

sick sentinel
#

With +10's if uve done them(assuming u have) then ud be fine

ivory barn
#

only did +10's as fury

#

highest ive tanked outside of guild is a +6

sick sentinel
#

This week might be one of the poorer weeks to learn/play tank

ivory barn
#

and that wasnt with this meme of x3 BoM + x1 DC

sick sentinel
#

Since u have pools and necro

#

U will be fine but compared to any other week that has Pool with necro/griev u might hate it

oblique garnet
#

@warm plinth im sorry i cant hear you over my 420 ilvl

sand egret
lusty grotto
#

im only 414 equipped thogh 😦

sick sentinel
#

416

ivory barn
#

im 404 🤷

sick sentinel
#

But it wouldn't matter since the pieces that would be upgraded to 415 have sockets

lusty grotto
#

yes the true pal group blade

warm plinth
#

I thought we had something Late and you gotta do me like that

#

I'm going back to being friends with Stewart. He respects me.

sick sentinel
#

Never trust the EU

lusty grotto
#

😮

oblique garnet
#

Your wife wouldnt like it if i went on the record you know @warm plinth 😘

warm plinth
#

rofl. She'd probably just shake her head in a resigned fashion.

ivory barn
#

if i linked a /simc to someone could i get some help with azerite traits

oblique garnet
#

Just link the pieces

ivory barn
#

ummm boi...

warm plinth
#

Wait, did you say you want to not have 1 DC 3 BoM though?

ivory barn
#

yes. am i supposed to have that?

#

thats all my gear....

warm plinth
#

Yeah that's what you should have for M+

#

DCx1, BoM x3, and 2 other traits

oblique garnet
#

Oh jesus what is this

ivory barn
#

he asked me to link gear to help me

warm plinth
#

How you gonna have all that spare 415 azerite but you're using a 375 wep and 380 shield

#

Moar prot gear, gogo

ivory barn
#

I played fury

warm plinth
#

That was your first mistake!

#

Prot is the life, the way

oblique garnet
#

Is that kraken shell pauldrons?

ivory barn
#

in bags? yes

oblique garnet
#

Those have BoM 1 Dc right?

ivory barn
#

yes

oblique garnet
#

And something else

#

Ok switch your shoulders to those

ivory barn
#

since i have the DC on chest piece should i use the other az trait or stack 2 dc?

oblique garnet
#

Use the other

#

Whats that 420 helm?

#

And 400

#

Use those

#

You dont drop ilvl for traits as prot

ivory barn
#

420 helm is Putrid path

oblique garnet
#

You probably dont want to reforge all the time due to playing fury right?

ivory barn
#

if i swapped to prot im never fucking going back to that dual wielding 2hander crap

oblique garnet
#

Oh

#

So reforge the helm to BoM + Iron Fortress

#

Now you have solid traits

sick sentinel
#

Id suggest u look into a another class then for dpsing then if u dont have one yet

oblique garnet
#

All you need after that is weapon and a shield

ivory barn
#

much appreicated guys

muted vine
#

stick with the two hander "crap" spec

#

it gets better ^^

#

fury always end up top dps late expansion

#

😛

sick sentinel
#

Dont tell this guy about legion

oblique garnet
#

Doubt it with the way these fights are designed

ivory barn
#

i played Legion fury lmao

sick sentinel
#

Id pay to see fury top dps during ant

#

Fucking yikes

muted vine
#

arms in 7.2 was op aswell

#

arms was good in uldir + fury wasnt THAT BAD

ivory barn
#

Late what would you do about all the gems i have? or the haste enchant

muted vine
#

BOD shit for all melees

sick sentinel
#

Leave the enchant alone

#

Ur not going anything but haste enchant

muted vine
#

new shit will be better

oblique garnet
#

It wont

sick sentinel
#

Hows CoS for melee?

muted vine
#

crap

oblique garnet
#

Pretty much bring only if youre short 20 people but a 370 range would be better

sick sentinel
#

So the next 2?3? raids wont be better then

zinc creek
#

CoS is a well designed bench raid for melee

sick sentinel
#

Damn

muted vine
#

😛

sick sentinel
#

Thats a fucking oof

muted vine
#

tbh first boss on hc felt good as fury warrior 😛

sick sentinel
#

Unless ur DH, just fucking go anything else

oblique garnet
#

@ivory barn you can test out which work better crit is for better damage in m+ but if you intend to raid tank haste works better

muted vine
#

carpel tunnel spec

oblique garnet
#

On hc yeah sure

#

On mythic not so much

muted vine
#

ye

ivory barn
#

ty

muted vine
#

I havent killed Jaina yet on mythic but hopefully in 2weeks

#

but overall playing as fury isnt as bad as ppl say

oblique garnet
#

Ofc not

muted vine
#

even in m+

ivory barn
#

any reccomendations on Weak Auras?>

oblique garnet
#

Its just melees overall in raid

#

Block tracker + ignore pain tracker from Marok are nice

muted vine
#

Marok ones are gucci I recommend

oblique garnet
#

As for general weakauras you have probably some from fury as how you would like your weakauras to be

muted vine
#

I think its like a whole class wa

#

but the prot one might be good

ivory barn
#

hehe im not too new to prot unless it changed since mop-legion- now

muted vine
#

well lower uptime on SB

#

more dmg than legion 😛

oblique garnet
#

🤔

ivory barn
#

got the lovely legion flail 😃

sick sentinel
#

Yo @sand egret look at this shit, I think it was recent for the addon

honest canopy
#

Morning prottz

exotic spoke
#

@lusty grotto no not yet. Also just finished watch sharks vs blues game

oblique garnet
#

Sharks won?

honest canopy
#

NHL .... :Kappa:

exotic spoke
#

In OT

#

Goal shouldn’t have counted but the refs didn’t see the hand pass

#

They got a tying goal with a minute left

ivory barn
#

should i be focused on the weapon/shield in Atal

willow scarab
#

Weapon shield in general

oblique garnet
#

Shield from mythic champions

exotic spoke
#

^^

oblique garnet
#

Is probably the easiest to get

willow scarab
#

Yours suck and you’ll be way tankier with shield

exotic spoke
#

Easiest and fastest

oblique garnet
#

^

willow scarab
#

If you’ve never pvpd you can get a 400 one after a few arena wins too

#

It’s the first conquest cap

oblique garnet
#

Its 375 iirc

ivory barn
#

1st shield shows 375 foir me in the pvp thing

exotic spoke
#

Go pug mythic champs

willow scarab
#

I assume at 415 he clears it weekly with guild

oblique garnet
#

You can spam m+ for gear anyways

#

You can be 415 with just m+ and the occasional heroic clear

willow scarab
#

I know that

#

Do you raid mythic every week @ivory barn ?

ivory barn
#

used to guild went on a hiatus till 8.2

#

thinking about switching maybe soon but idk

willow scarab
#

Given that your guild is scared of CoS you should pug champ kill for shield then

oblique garnet
#

^

willow scarab
#

I left my guild for not doing CoS so I support you

ivory barn
#

and bonus roll for it

willow scarab
#

Yeah dude do everything for it

exotic spoke
#

So m+ 10 will give you a 400. Can warforge up to 410

Can get 410 from cache (420 warforge)

415 mythic champ (425 warforge)

willow scarab
#

Send nudes to anyone who rolls the shield for you

#

Whore yourself for it

#

It’ll do so much for you

exotic spoke
#

Beg any shaman / pally to give you there’s if it drops

ivory barn
#

I'll talk to you all later. have to go to bed now, thank you for all the help so far!

willow scarab
#

Sweet dreams young warrior

honest frigate
#

double prot warr on cabal world first ez

honest canopy
#

4500 AP left to neck 50 on Panda

muted vine
#

poyo what addon is that ?

#

i love it

undone sun
#

narcissus

ebon lagoon
#

Ok so the game only gave me a 110 axe when I did the intro to BFA...when do I get a shield, too? ._.)

warm plinth
#

Never

oblique garnet
#

Pretty much

#

Doing 20+ keys with 289 shield

honest canopy
#

😄

warm plinth
#

Oof

civic oriole
#

Just got into tanking, which is why I am using R.io routes to have a starting point for m+. Is there any faster way for me to import all of these, other than manually adding them 1by1?

brittle owl
#

nop 😦

civic oriole
#

Made the mistake of opening seperate tabs for all of them the first time, until i noticed, the links basically just jump to the same page, which is loaded in its entirety.

#

But good to know at least. Thank you @brittle owl

brittle owl
#

👌

sick spindle
#

That page crashes on most browsers, lol. So add 'm 1 by 1 real fast and get the fuck outta there

faint condor
#

Maybe this has been asked before, if so I apologize, Is there a point when haste is overtaken in value by, for example Versatility?

undone sun
#

No

faint condor
#

Hey better to ask and know then be ignorent right.

zinc garnet
#

Better to Remain Silent and Be Thought a Fool than to Speak and Remove All Doubt

faint condor
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A foul is only one that remains in ignoreance by choice.

ionic fern
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Deep.

unborn island
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can confirm what Late says

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I'm 6/9 heroic (bad guild and no time for raiding), 1/9M and I'm 417

ionic fern
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You're higher than me. o.o

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Well, most people are i guess.

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😂

unborn island
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415 equipped, I'd have to use my TF big red button and Mchimbas to get to 417

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and fuck that

ionic fern
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Ah, okay.

unborn island
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so using 400 trinkets

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instead of 415/425

ionic fern
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Think i'm 416 now since i got 425 TF feet yesterday from a +10

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Also with 400 trinkets. 😦

unborn island
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I keep thinking

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that If I smash enough AD's

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eventually I'll get a tittyforged Rezan

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but maybe that'll be by the time Nazjatar comes out

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kinda like i eventually got a 965 loop of vitriolic intent with avoidance and socket after doing a million NL's

coral jasper
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I had a warrior (I had 2.53M in a Conclave fight durataion he had 253K) tell me he didn't use IP "that much" on that fight... Um ... aren't we always to aim for IP to be up since it ignores 50% incoming damage and takes the other as absorb? I felt like he was stupid by just LOOKING at the difference in IP ...but it didn't seem like he was getting trucked either ... But I use it when I have SB up and don't want revenge because it helps reduce my CDS because of AM .. is there something missing on my end or was he just ... ||SLOW||?

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@unborn island That was my thought process on the conch out of SoTS and after doing LITERALLY 45 in one week I got a 415 and it was the WORST group out of all of them but I thought to myself "Just stick it out ... you'll be rewarded". Which I was totally surprised I was lol

ionic fern
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On a fight like Conclave where most of the damage is Physical outside of some bleeds SB mitigates most damage.
You can dump your rage with either IP or Revenge in this scenario, doesn't make too much of a issue just because how effective SB is against blockable damage.

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For example if you tank Paku SB is pretty much all you need because all of his attacks are blockable.

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If you want to play it even safer you can dump rage with IP and get that tiny bolster of a shield ontop of SB but in general in this specific scenario you can safely also dump with Revenge.
Main goal is to keep SB up and never cap rage.

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Remember that AM works by USING rage on different abilities.
It doesn't matter if you use it on IP or Revenge (unless it's a Revenge! proc which makes it free) you will still benefit from AM

honest canopy
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Ping @umbral forge

forest fern
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Sort of a dumb question given the power of the talent i would have to drop to use it, but on a fight like mythic rasta where so much unblockable damage in p2 is flying at you, would never surrender gain decent value to warrant ever using it?

sick sentinel
oblique garnet
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@forest fern no never

forest fern
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k figured as much, just checking. Any advice for the p2 bonswamdi tanking, the magic damage gets pretty ridiculous at 35-40stacks before a tank changeover

oblique garnet
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Dunno we have always had pala solo tank it

forest fern
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i don't see that talent in the tree 😃

oblique garnet
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But in any case theres no situation where never surrender will be better than bolster

sick sentinel
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if you have a shaman you can use anch totem

forest fern
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yeah was thinking of that also, didn't want to use it unless we absolutely needed to, i'm surviving it, just gets real butt clenching especially returning to rasta for those first few seconds with the massive debuff rolling

ionic fern
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Rotate externals and your own CD's.

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That's the only part of the whole fight that actually hurts.

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🤷

forest fern
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yeah for sure, the rest is cake. Cheers for the info

ionic fern
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Jep, just yell at healers or set up a CD order and profit. 😄

forest fern
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yer we're close, had a 1.5% wipe earlier today, should be down next time

wary lantern
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Question, even attacks you Block apply necro?

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Never tanked it

ionic fern
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Yes.

wary lantern
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Oh, okay ty, any advice? Or just kite?

ionic fern
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No need to kite too much in most situations.
If you see that you're falling and the healer is struggling to top you then you obviously have to stun->Heroic leap/kite away and wait for the stacks to drop. Most people usually do it at like 20-30 stacks.

sick sentinel
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if you parry them, then you don;t get a stack

wary lantern
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Thanks!

silk mortar
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Ravager 🤔

ionic fern
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Wat

sick sentinel
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50% party

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🎉

timid jay
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What's the other 50%?

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Copious amounts of alcohol?

sick sentinel
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mostly

honest canopy
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This aint working

river scarab
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Any tips for this weeks affixes as a warr?

honest canopy
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Shockwave

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leap

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run

river scarab
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😄

honest canopy
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if you dont have the DPS

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get more dps

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with you

river scarab
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fair enough

honest canopy
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We are dying to Ire

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Friends, what do we do

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have a BDK doing the soaks

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we miss few

patent spoke
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Everything I've seen/read says booming is the better choice for both rage and dps but looking through top performers on WCL I've noticed devastator is being used for some of the higher dmg numbers. To my understanding this was the worst for both damage and healing in the row. Did something change?

astral crystal
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it's for parsing

patent spoke
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Yeah, I still just thought it was the worse damage in that row too

honest canopy
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Is there a Details! or WA

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to show current raid DPS?

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The total current raiddps