got warr and monk to 415, and cant even get my pally past level 118
#protection
sand egret
@astral crystal people are looking at vision but Im with you on that pvp one. that’s a really nice effect
charred vigil
Yeah I considered leveling a bear...just got demoralized after a few levels
brisk ferry
I leveld a rogue yesterday, outlaw is pretty fun. Got to 118 in a few hours
with heirlooms and the XP potion, it's so fast
dusty ferry
@brisk ferry you went from 1-118 in a few hours? Lol, teach me your ways
arctic sedge
Got a Rezan's Gleaming Eye ilvl415, should i replace Gore Block ilvl390?
lusty grotto
cough rerolls go away
arctic sedge
im guessing yeah?
arctic sedge
Grong's
arctic sedge
got lucky when i needed some 2 handed weapons for offspec on a boss i didnt need anything fromm
and opulence doesnt wanna give me trinket
dusty ferry
^^
brisk ferry
yeah I'd def use Block and Rezan's in that case
modern brook
ionic fern
Grong haters :(
lusty grotto
heh heh heh heh
exotic spoke
Bull... it’s obviously sporepods
wary lantern
f**k sporepods
when i was farming shield, i got sporepods on every ilvl available lol and from weekly too
so, was just checking raider.io leaderboards, and why do like 3 out 10 top tanks use siphoning?
really curious (not memeing)
exotic spoke
Because in their specific case, and their specific goal it is worth. For most, read damn near all, it isn’t worth it
wary lantern
just self healing on big trash/reaping when clapping?
exotic spoke
You’d have to ask them. It’s probably something they’ve worked out with their healer or whatever.
shadow timber
Is there a way to sim our gear to find best setups?
celest gate
For dps yeah
exotic spoke
No
There aren’t reliable models for boss fights and mitigation / survivability
Especially since every boss fight is different
wild bolt
If a mob ability is classified as Magic but listed as Not Reflectable on the spreadsheet in the Prot guides, does that mean that not even the 25% damage reduction bit will occur, or does that just mean that it won't negate the damage completely and/or truly Reflect it back at the caster? Asking primarly regarding Jaina's Crystalline Dust.
civic oriole
Hey, playing a warrior for the first time. Is there any spreadsheet or guide I can look at to get a better idea of what middle ring trait I should choose? I am at a point were I got to choose between Earth Link, Overwhelming Power and Crystalline Carapace. OP seems got for the haste, but then I'm taking a lot of melee hits in M+, deminishing the stacks. Also, I dont really know how much hard hitting things there are that CC would help me out with.
I checked the FAQ but couldn't find anything specific other than generic explanations of the middle traits.
wild bolt
Marok's guide over on Icy Veins breaks the middle tier traits down and ranks them accordingly - great resource.
There's a link in the Prot guides.
civic oriole
Thanks, I'll have a look at that.
wild bolt
I use OP. It's a nice bump, just doesn't last too long.
cinder pasture
OP does have an internal cd for the stacks getting removed I think, not entierly sure about what it is though
civic oriole
Actually, Marok's is the guide I checked. It ranks them, but I cant put these into context. Especially since I don't know what content he refers to when ranking the traits. Crystalline is ranked as S tier in the guide for example, but like I mentioned above, I'm not really sure, if I will get hit that badly in M+. I guess the guide has a bit more focus on raiding. So my best guess is that OP or EL are probably my choices here, no?
I guess it's not that min-max'y as a tank as with the other specs, but I'm trying to find out how to judge these better. Do you guys have any tips?
cinder pasture
Personally I would go for OP, more dps is always good, and OP does give some defensive value aswell with the extra rage you get due to having more haste
civic oriole
Yeah, I mean Haste is probably the best stat by far. I just thought if I stand in the middle of things, the procc probably gets deleted immediately. But if there is some internal CD like you mentioned above, that might not be too bad then.
crude helm
whats the best azerite trait for going dps as prot ?
undone sun
deafening crash and bastion of might #268491842637660160
crude helm
ty
empty spire
exotic spoke
@wild bolt if you can’t reflect it then you don’t reflect the damage. Reflect will still reduce damage you take from magic if it can’t reflect the spell
lusty grotto
Correct, the dr works on non reflectable spells
exotic spoke
Does anyone know of any of the tanks can aim for survivability? I only ask because the bdk we run with was saying he did and that’s why he changed traits last night.
Going to ask archerus, but I have to wait a few minutes since I just joined
oblique garnet
Idk bdk will prolly have to aim for survivability
exotic spoke
Nah, we called it. Tos and ur Thursday
lusty grotto
Yeet
exotic spoke
We fucked second boss - still getting used to a second melee
oblique garnet
On tos?
exotic spoke
And then we fucked last boss. Ported in with 40k left
lusty grotto
Yeah I saw
exotic spoke
No, shrine
oblique garnet
Oh
exotic spoke
Shrine 20.
lusty grotto
Druid got deleted on that last boss
exotic spoke
That’s the 4th 20 we did. First in shrine. We honestly don’t run it much
lusty grotto
Also your druids ui is horrible
oblique garnet
I already have my 20 shrine on time cba doing it again
exotic spoke
Yeah, miss timed killing add so he sucked damage since he keeps the buff
He’s Canadian. What do you expect?
lusty grotto
Lmao
lusty grotto
I like playing with canadians
exotic spoke
Canadians are great. It’s just a reoccurring joke
lusty grotto
They are fun
oblique garnet
Now french canadians
lusty grotto
Listen we said canadians
oblique garnet
Those you can shit talk
lusty grotto
Not frenchies 2.0
exotic spoke
We had one that married a us citizen and moved here. He was our little snow Mexican. We miss him
oblique garnet
Anybody wanna help me with greencard 8)
exotic spoke
Anyway, shrine felt good. First time we took that path. First time with a rogue.
Mage swapped - so still getting used to rogueing
lusty grotto
Oh
exotic spoke
That 400 or 405 dagger he got was an upgrade lol
lusty grotto
That's why you guys were saying "hug the wall" and stuff like that
exotic spoke
Yeah, brand new for us.
lusty grotto
I was like???
Also he didn't sap the dude lmao on runecarver
Was he playing outlaw, I can't remember
exotic spoke
Didn’t need to though but yeah
lusty grotto
Yeah idk man I really like assassin for tyrannical weeks
zinc spoke
can someone clear this up for me because I feel like I'm going crazy - is the spell reflection WA in pins broken or am i retarded
i asked in the WA sub and didn't get answers
exotic spoke
Some people have said yes previously. I don’t use it so I don’t know
lusty grotto
I believe there are instructions in the Wago site
If there's bugs you probably can ping marok
zinc spoke
yeah I followed the instructions to the letter and he was pinged in the chat
lusty grotto
He will get back to you, he's a busy man
exotic spoke
Second boss is a pita. But, second pull was pretty clean. We don’t wipe there or last boss and I think that the dungeon is timed
Also, should have killed one pack before boss three, killed boss three, killed the other tentacle pack, and then suicided to avoid reaping
zinc spoke
cool, thanks
lusty grotto
Second boss this week is interrupt everything even if she has the buff
exotic spoke
Yes, yes it is. And we’re working on interrupt rotation for things where melee might not be in range. Ie second boss with tornados
Previously with spriest and mage it was easier to have a ranged interrupt up. Now we only have spriest
neon tangle
@exotic spoke BDK also just aims for damage, there aren’t really any notable traits that would help
exotic spoke
Ok, the bdk we had tanking swapped armor out for something which gave more deathstrikes (I think)
And the healers. Literally every healer, mentioned / complained that he was spiking more than normal
So trying to figure out if it was him, the healers, the other tank (who stepped in for two bosses he needed and I stepped out) or a combination of the three
And it’s looking like it’s a combination. The other tank fucked some taunts so bdk was tanking for longer.
Bdk was healing more but taking more damage
Healers not used to it and used cooldowns at wrong times
neon tangle
Probably him, BDK works just like prot in the sense that there’s no mix of secondaries that would make you go “ok I’m noticeably easier to heal now”
exotic spoke
He said he changed Azerite traits?
neon tangle
Doubly so for az traits
exotic spoke
After simming for survivability
Gave up something that gave him armor for more deathstrikes I think I
steel mauve
thats impossible
neon tangle
@exotic spoke id have to see the stuff he changed, could you PM me his armory profile?
Or your logs
exotic spoke
Sure
neon tangle
There’s 2 things you can change to help make you more tanky as a BDK: your trinkets and if you have the trident
undone sun
simming for survival 🤔
exotic spoke
That’s what I said thyme
But I want to educate myself on bdks before making blanket statements and ensure I’m correct
exotic spoke
@steel mauve I’m just saying what I heard - it seemed odd to me so that’s why I’m digging deeper.
I’m responsible for tanks so if something is wrong I need to address it ASAP
weary nacelle
wierd choice.. which two should i wear? Could you help?
lusty grotto
400 and 415 probably
steel mauve
im just saying that its impossible to sim for survival, it just cant be done...
exotic spoke
I agree. I was going to overlook last night because he was undoing whatever changes he made - until I saw that comment.
It struck me as wrong and I wanted to verify if maybe they found some voodoo magic to make it work for them.
The only thing I can think of is they can sim their healing potential - possibly?
weary nacelle
im thinking of 400 and 415 as well.. just screw haste on the 405 😄
exotic spoke
More stats are better than fewer better stats
steel mauve
no they cant sim for healing potential, you cvant sim for damage taken, which is survivability which would ism for healing for a dk, you can only sim for dps if their apl is working
undone sun
well, theoretically it is possible... just way out of reach nor would anyone want to put effort into making it work.
generally you'd have to simulate every single, individual boss and their timers, even then there's so many other factors that can play out that sims will have a hard time catching
steel mauve
dk's are really squishy simply for the fact that they have to heal their damage taken, theres a big possiblity he wasnt using death strikes right, you have to be very precise to play a dk well, basically knowing when you are going to spike and then death striking it
exotic spoke
I get it. I just wanted to verify before I started going deeper. Make sure my perception was correct. Don’t want to make an incorrect assumption and go down the wrong path because of it
steel mauve
even then ive healed a dk in a 5 man opn my shaman (which im out of practice on for a couple of expacs and slightly undergeared) and i wasnt havign a good time lol
exotic spoke
Last night, specifically on grong / conclave when I wasn’t there, he get squishier than normal.
Entirely possible the other tank fucked taunt swaps and that could be why
It just coincided with changes he made so that’s why I’m approaching it openly
steel mauve
thats a very possibly scenario as well, tanks missing taunts wil definitely fuck up a tank as well
exotic spoke
Normally I sit in the corner with paku all fight. He had to this time
steel mauve
especially bosses like grong, his melee's are harder than most, and during combo really hurts, and conclave can as well with the bleed effect which shouldnt get passed 2, or if paku casts his haste buff and no one dispells them
exotic spoke
Yeah they swapped at two that’s normal
Grongs a bitch. Double smash didn’t even kill me....
Lol
steel mauve
for us combo wont kill you, for a dk with very little actual DR, 2 very likely could lol
they actually have to survive the hits first before they can mitigate it lol
wary lantern
socket worth 5 ivls on legs?
steel mauve
never
exotic spoke
More stats are better than fewer better stats
wary lantern
kay _)
steel mauve
especially on a big armor piece like legs, armor is our bread and butter for survival
and ya ive had my main alt on a second team be a dk before, and i really dont like their playstyle, i prefer preventing the damage before it comes in rather than reacting to it
at least with a warrior if i fuck up i still have about a 26% chance for blocking an attack and reducing the damage, and im a gambling man 😉
exotic spoke
Yeah, I actually don’t really play alts
I have a Druid at 110, from a boost to 100 and it took me soooo long to acstually want to play and level him to 110
A bdk at 110 - from the bfa boost
And DH at 102? Just don’t want to level lol
steel mauve
i leveled my dh and pally to tank with, the dh just feels gutted
i used to love it but it just doesnt feel fun and miserable to play, especially after capping souls for soul cleave
exotic spoke
If warrior gets nerfed badly (in general I mean) I’ll likely try to make do or quit until it’s not shit
Played that char since day one.
stark fox
Anyone have any recommendations for a UI suite or something that covers most tanks/dps classes?
I have a DPS one that I've slowly modified for tanking but tired of constantly tweaking it and would rather just find someone that's better at making a ui than me and import theirs
lusty grotto
how many times have you asked the same thing
just curious
i think ive replied "i just use ElvUI and share profiles between my tank alts" like 4 times
do you know what's the definition of madness?
undone sun
ideally you'd modify it regardless of who made it to fit your own preferences
¯_(ツ)_/¯
wooden radish
@ionic fern WoWAnalyzer for Prot. War when
lusty grotto
⏲
wooden radish
😦
wooden radish
i thought you were too busy carrying capable kappa
lusty grotto
can you give us an estimate mwahi
also story points
because apparently companies dont understand agile
neon tangle
@wooden radish I made a diff for it
And then it took a month for them to review
And I lost interest
ionic fern
😂
lusty grotto
yikes
wooden radish
@fierce juniper hey merek, i'd like to report @ionic fern for RMT
lusty grotto
sounds like me doing pull request code reviews
ionic fern
Y u bully @wooden radish
lusty grotto
just wait until sprint ending
neon tangle
Pro tip tho wowanalyzer now tracks overlap of SB and last stand
So that’s one less thing for @ionic fern to fix
ionic fern
IF and when i actually get around to it. Hopefully.
lusty grotto
but does wowanalyzer check if you have leech
undone sun
🤦
wooden radish
@ionic fern AMR fixes when kappa
ionic fern
😂
lusty grotto
HEH HEH HEH
honest canopy
Where is Jettom
exotic spoke
Snitches get stitches
sand egret
@lusty grotto you wanna talk warrior dps utility....well you should hear about an old prototype "War Drums"
lusty grotto
oh good lord
ionic fern
😂
ionic fern
Goood old kodos.
lusty grotto
ya we should play the drums
shit man even lust drums should have a drum playing animation
sand egret
well specficially, we started the drums and party members' actions would have additional effects based on the drums
the druation of the drums was based on dps uptime
lusty grotto
😮
sand egret
at a ramping level (like insanity)
so you had to pump a boss eventually to keep it going
sand egret
not gonna lie, pumping a boss to literally save your party's life was a cool concept (similar to what Shadow/Ele had/have)
lusty grotto
that would lock all melee slots for fury and arms
and all tank slots for us
only healer and ranged left
sand egret
but the best part was knowing your performance improved theirs
in a direct way
like, every other cast happens twice. So they can game it and play around it, as long as you maintain it
etc.
neat proto
sand egret
lol yeah
it was definitely inspired by it
this was years ago when FF was seen as more of a direct competitor
weary nacelle
whats your opinion on the Lurker's trinket from Crucible? Any good for tanking?
brisk ferry
weary nacelle
i've checked the icy veins written for the new gear
it has nothing on this trinket
not to mention it doesnt say a thing about the leggings as well
lusty grotto
i think the consensus is... "its.. okay?"
leggings are a nono
they dont even drop for prot
exotic spoke
What trinket is the lurker one? Is that Idol?
lusty grotto
mastery trinket pretty much
sand egret
ramping mastery trinket seems interesting
lusty grotto
with a side effect
honestly though why the fuck do you want a mastery trinket when you have 3x BoM though
at that point you're already diminishing mastery significantly
sand egret
it's a weird trinket where the mastery scales linearly but the damage taken scales exponentially with ilvl
so there are certain specs (like tanks) that actually want the lowest ilvl of that trinket, for defensive purposes
steep lily
^
sand egret
Gloves, if they work constructively with IP, could be situationally good
lusty grotto
they take a shitload of 2ndaries with them
sand egret
esp if they continue down the old god route of utilizing more healing negation mechanics
considering the interaction allows you to not take the health damage, especially valuable when you can't be healed at all
sand egret
i could see it being situationally worth it, considering the type of effect
lusty grotto
perhaps
sand egret
as that isn't something you can replicate
honest canopy
@lusty grotto i use The leggs
lusty grotto
I honestly wouldn't
tropic star
i know this is prot, but anyone played with fury and the polearm
lusty grotto
But I mean they are 425 for the mythic version
tropic star
is that shield decent in pvp
lusty grotto
No idea, might be best to ask in the pvp channel
tired dagger
The belt from cos seems good for m+
It's a relatively small heal but it doesn't take up too many stats
Is the concensus that the pants are bad though?
I was gonna craft the bs pants to hold me over until I got cos pants but maybe I'll just stop running cos lol
exotic spoke
I enjoy the trinket. Though I try to kill my group members.
tired dagger
Yeah I got a 415 of the trinket and it's insane in m+
exotic spoke
Nim, if he watched the whole run last night in shrine, will attest to the fact that I wanted to kill my healer on the last boss
limber pagoda
Hey any one know how to dodge Cragmaw;s indigestion?
exotic spoke
Leap out charge in
tropic star
he will swivel
exotic spoke
Honestly if you’re fast you can walk out
limber pagoda
when i strafe i still get hit
exotic spoke
Don’t strafe
tropic star
he will turn with you
umbral forge
Walk backwards
tropic star
so you can strafe it
umbral forge
Don't strafe
exotic spoke
Walk or leap directly away from him
tropic star
cant*
and make sure you arent leaping behind your buddies
as they will likely not enjoy a tyranical indigestion
exotic spoke
Conversely, if you can’t do that for whatever reason - blow cooldowns / get externaled
And remember. A Druids most mana efficient heal is a battle Rez
tropic star
lul
exotic spoke
That’s a fact
sand egret
He casts it ~50 energy IIRC. Between that and the cast time there should be no reason you can't just walk and out range it. Save your Leap for the Tantrum
its ~ a 12 yard cone in front of him. His position is locked but he can still rotate
oblique garnet
no he doesnt
it depends
he can do either charge or indigestion
as soon as you see the indigestion going through just walk away
no need to leap
@sand egret Sorry i did it again : )
civic oriole
After over 4 straight hrs of testing, I finally found the keybinds I can use to fit into my existing system (coming from other classes/specs). Now my only issue is, that I dont have a single comfortable keybind for Devestate left. 
I'm just gonna run without, right? 
sand egret
I ran UR like 5 times last night, didn't see it vary once from what I saw
oblique garnet
he can do indigestion or charge on pull
and right after tantrum
its just rng which one you get
sand egret
Hmm, guess I've got crazy rng. I've never seen him do one prior to 50 energy
oblique garnet
yeah it really caught me offguard when he did the indigestion on pull
instead of charging
sand egret
charge > indegestion every time for me
warm plinth
You don't have to leap for indigestion?
sand egret
nope
warm plinth
😮
warm plinth
I wanted to RP walk though
sand egret
naw, that's only for explosions
oblique garnet
if youre man you rp walk through it
warm plinth
Cool guys don't look at indigestions
sand egret
you could just intercept your DH too, so he can enjoy it as well
warm plinth
sand egret
I know one of us is going to live through it=)
oblique garnet
fight me
exotic spoke
Honestly. Do you want to die of boredom... cause prot v prot is how you die of boredom or old age
At least in my experience vs bdk and fury warrior. Don’t see many prot warrior in warmode. I can’t die and it takes forever.
honest canopy
@oblique garnet you still benched?
I am apparently Lucky beeing considered 🙈
I was only allwoed to play prot 1 raid and it was my first raid ik The guild on bosses i never seen 😓
sand egret
lol woooof
So, I feel so bad for Resto Shammies this week
I ran a shitshow last night in UR and homie was using his Spirit Link at like the optimally WRONG time haha
oblique garnet
nah im not benched anymore
sand egret
Oh, one person is low? How about we bring EVERYONE into Grevious range during Tantrum
honest canopy
Fun thing, i am currently standin tanking.
On my warrior, for my brothers guild. Killed 2x new bosses for me, doing my first jaina pulls now
coarse basalt
hi friends, i was wondering, i have a 400 bwonsamdi's bargain but i just got a 395 jes's howler. i do mainly m+ it the howler better to take?
other trinkert is the mekka one on 400
honest canopy
Run bwosandi and jesse
Dont use rage
Or well rage is cool
Id prob run bwosandi and Jesse
austere oar
gonk gang
sick sentinel
gotta go fast
austere oar
im fast af
sand egret
damn, that's some Speed
austere oar
got the cloak
hallow phoenix
Come back when you have longstrider and at least 3 pieces with speed
sand egret
Gonk Gang + Feral Affinty + 3 Longstrider + KR cloak. Dont you come at me with that slow ass setup 🐢
hallow phoenix
And a monk in the party
sand egret
psh wouldn't even notice it. I'm just zoooomin
sand egret
real talk, in that set up...I'm like way net positive over mobs movement speed
so i just naturally kite
makes me feel like I'm a big boy spec with a built-in slow 😭
young oasis
Anyone use Lurker's Insidious Gift for tanking? You think it can be good or dmg intake is bad for us?
warm plinth
I mean, 166k damage over 30 seconds isn't bad, but you're taking almost 80k of that damage over the last 6 seconds, which could be problematic in an M+ setting, wouldn't you say? That's not exactly a trivial amount of damage.
That's like 11k DTPS
Maybe I'm just overestimating its impact.
sick sentinel
just cancel aura the last 5 sec 🤷
warm plinth
NYEH
warm plinth
I'm just being difficult 😉 I can't say I'd ever use it because that's pretty high maintenance for a trinket. I can barely make myself use on-use trinkets in general XD
exotic spoke
Rip
I basically use idol on cooldown even if I don’t need the heal
More dps
I was sad when I couldn’t hit it on last boss in shrine without almost instagibbing my rdruid
silk mortar
Nice, gz 😄
lusty grotto
never gonna drop for me
gz
wait what the hell you have 2
hiss
😢 i dont even have a heroic version
sick sentinel
I had a 400
lusty grotto
hiss
sick sentinel
I got it first week of the complete 4 mythic dungeons quest
lusty grotto
hissing intensifies
sick sentinel
when I accidentally turned the quest in as prot
lusty grotto
maximum hissing achieved
remember in uldir when i didnt get a syringe until the week just before 8.1 come out?
yeah
im pretty sure
that's gonna happen with diamond, so i'm just not gonna run BoD anymore
sick sentinel
remember when I literally never got syringe
glass wolf
Hello guys! Wanted to ask if anyone got any decent prot pawn string? Or any ideas where
glass wolf
Wow u is rood
glass wolf
Why so? Seems decent
sand egret
it's not a good resource. Redundant at best, misleading at worst
sick sentinel
it is useful for absolutely 0 specs in the game
sick sentinel
nobody should
lusty grotto
i agree with Kaege
glass wolf
So I assume you say same about azerite power weights
lusty grotto
correct
sand egret
I think the better question is: What are you trying to achieve?
sick sentinel
still
glass wolf
I only follow wowhead
sick sentinel
different azerite is different content
lusty grotto
are those power weights variable given the content type?
sick sentinel
follow icyveins for prot
lusty grotto
the wowhead prot guide is trash
use only icy veins
which is the only one updated by Marok
who is our lord and savior
and owner of this discord
oblique garnet
marok is a noober :^)
lusty grotto
merek*
sand egret
For gearing questions (re: This or That), the guide outlines the basic rules to follow, but they're straight forward enough that you don't need to simulate to know the answer. For general questions, the Icy Veins guide is the "trusted" resource for Prot
On the whole, gearing is pretty simple for Prot.
umbral bloom
Does anyone have a Cancel Macro for Jaina?
sick sentinel
/cancelaura Power Word: Shield
/cancelaura Atonement
/cancelaura Riptide
/cancelaura Power Word: Fortitude
/cancelaura Concentrated Mending
/cancelaura Rallying Cry
/cancelaura Blessed Portents
/cancelaura Glimmer of Light
/cancelaura Wild Growth
and turn your back at her
lusty grotto
just /sit
exotic spoke
We’ve seen 2 diamond trinkets for all of our kills....
sick sentinel
and you can't block
umbral bloom
ty
exotic spoke
Dps are even setting loot specs to tank if possible
grand drum
pressing x also makes you sit
sick sentinel
go big brain mode
sick shell
Given you haven't rebound it
sick sentinel
make a macro for /sit and put it on X
grand drum
A fellow man of culture i see
sick shell
X is my taunt
gray gyro
is crit blocking a second bestial smash from grong possible and if yes; how much damage would it do if you already have the debuff?
gray gyro
last stand + block
exotic spoke
And it’s needless. But you can survive it
That’s wasteful
Why block if you last stand
lusty grotto
^
grand drum
just last stand
warm plinth
Found the person not running Bolster 😉
lusty grotto
or maybe he doesnt know what Bolster does
warm plinth
It was just a joke Stewart, GOSH
lusty grotto
ah i see
gray gyro
oir rather hypothetical
grand drum
tbf i still sometimes block during LS because of muscle memory
warm plinth
I did not actuallly realize the cat was doing that in the tenor panel 😂
exotic spoke
Cause I want to prove a point that I can nim
lusty grotto
PFFT
dont feel bad wineman, SB is still a boost to SS damage
but survivalwise, don't do it :p
sick shell
I was taking practically full combos because my off tank wanted me to be thrown, glad I kept my SRs on point
lusty grotto
gonna be spicy if you SB during LS on treeboi in a high WM without resetting 😉
exotic spoke
It’s purely because I can - to shut people up. And also worth a bet of 250k gold
lusty grotto
Rin but doesnt he know only the third hit gets thrown? is he retarded a dumb dumb?
exotic spoke
The other tanks don’t think I can survive every instance of two smashes in a row on a fight
sick shell
I had words for him when we downed him though
Yeah he knows throw comes after the combo, he wanted me to be thrown so he wouldn't taunt
Until I was grabbed
lusty grotto
what in the fuck lol
people like this are why i get praised in pugs
(also my mog)
(also stewart the fish)
zinc spoke
pic of the mog?
dense flame
sick shell
I almost died to dots several times and did once
lusty grotto
hey yall umbre wants a pic of my mog
dense flame
Just pump don’t block don’t IP
lusty grotto
this is a good question
if they roast you
send them my way
Chef nimchip reporting in
sand egret
fuck off
gray gyro
wouldnt excess block chance during shield block/last stand be the chance of crit block?
lusty grotto
lmao
dense flame
lusty grotto
blade hey he asked
sand egret
who the fuck asked for that pic?>!
oblique garnet
Stop bullying people nim
zinc spoke
i asked
lusty grotto
it was @zinc spoke
sand egret
👀
zinc spoke
i wish I had not
lusty grotto
that's not how it works at all @gray gyro
sand egret
that pic is a cursed image
sick shell
Those poor bosses just getting slapped with a fish, they don't deserve that level of disrespect
lusty grotto
there's NO excess block chance
gray gyro
so just scales with mastery
sand egret
it shows the struggles of modern wow where a complete scrub (the Orc) can get completely carried by another (Stewart)
lusty grotto
you have 100% block chance on a Shield Block
you have 100% block chance on a Last Stand with Bolster
mastery only increases crit block chance on those 2 situations
mastery does not increase anything for block because you are already capping it on those 2 situations
gray gyro
it adds the chance to crit block right
lusty grotto
mastery increases the chance to passively block and to crit block
it should be on the in-game tooltip
sand egret
Mastery = Increased Crit block chance
Block on Shield = % of damage mitigated on a blocked hit (crit or not)
Shield Block/Bolster = Increased % chance to Block (adds a 100% to your current chance)
gray gyro
so essentially the best way to increase the chance of crit blocking is BoM and block
lusty grotto
yes
sand egret
yep
lusty grotto
basically any added mastery
sick sentinel
and lurker's
sand egret
that's why BoM stacking is insane
it adds a legit defensive benefit to an otherwise offensive cooldown
lusty grotto
and you need to shield block or last stand
because to passively crit block.... well
sand egret
sometimes ya gotta roll the dice
lusty grotto
that chance is low
exotic spoke
It’s why it’ll be purely ducking stupid to keep it on the Perfection essence imo
lusty grotto
since lets say with 3x BoM you would have 60% for both, it would have to double dip
exotic spoke
But, o think perfection for us is going to be stupid no matter what
sand egret
well i'd be surprised if they don't apply the reduction to the BoM increase as well
yes
you gotta roll the ~30 or whatever %
THEN roll for a crit block
gray gyro
ye
lusty grotto
its a % chance on a block
sand egret
SB just makes that first roll always hit
exotic spoke
Back to the important question at hand.... I think with up and shield block we can survive grong.
Testing must follow
sick sentinel
425 shield+bfi traits can solo tank grong
sand egret
and noo BFI?
ooooo he just called you out Kaege!
689753 is some nice Block Porn....
lusty grotto
oof
lusty grotto
blocking is sexy
sick sentinel
was that with externals?
shut summit
only buffs i had are in the pic
exotic spoke
Mmhmm.
sick sentinel
nice
sand egret
Now, I wanna see that same pic....but for an absolute madman who RNG's the block and doesn't use SB/LS
sick sentinel
lmao
sand egret
You won't.
exotic spoke
I did
lusty grotto
lmao
exotic spoke
I fucked it
sand egret
pics or it didn't happen
lusty grotto
quick play the mega millions
exotic spoke
Sec
lusty grotto
and powerball
exotic spoke
Thought I had a mythic one where I had multiple in one fight but I didn’t when I looked earlier. Let me get back to my desk and I’ll snip the logs
lusty grotto
daddy wants a tesla
lusty grotto
🗞
sand egret
just let that one through
lusty grotto
shoo bear shoo
sick sentinel
3bom+lurker's
lusty grotto
bladesong feels like caustic when not blocking
sand egret
take that naked Crush from Treeboi
lusty grotto
"i feel most alive when rapidly approaching my deaht"
sand egret
just roll the dice...
lusty grotto
bro my anus clenches so hard on that split second when block is not up on treeboi
sick sentinel
oh yeah man
lusty grotto
gotta get that preparation h just in case
sand egret
that's the thrill man!
lusty grotto
muh heart though
sand egret
(i also do it to fuck with my healers)
100% repro of getting a monk to fire off a coccon . Just take an earlier crush naked
watch that shit pop INSTANTLY
lolool
then watch them really get confused that the rest of the hits do nothing
lusty grotto
iirc the last time i took a bitch slap with 50 stacks to the face, i fat fingered a lightfoot and said fuck it and just ran circles
and sang jesus take the wheel
sand egret
sometimes ya just gotta do it
lusty grotto
nods
sand egret
you see that Jolt coming in....but you just gotta believe that Cyclone Strike is going to go off first.
exotic spoke
sand egret
ooof Blessing of Kings?!
lusty grotto
oh man
exotic spoke
Rofl
lusty grotto
you should have played that lottery luck
sand egret
my mans Sense dont need no Ret
exotic spoke
That was months ago. I also had 3 BoM active
So pretty good odds of blocking and shit
I didn’t use SB because I wasn’t expecting it - tank failed
exotic spoke
Think I had three BoM.
But you asked for someone who did it with out block or bolster / externals and there you go
sand egret
Ahem
lusty grotto
wait
lusty grotto
hmm
sand egret
cooldown
exotic spoke
Kings is an absorb for how much?
sand egret
TOO MUCH
exotic spoke
HOW MUCH?
sand egret
enough for you to turn in your Prot badge, you flashlight hugger
lusty grotto
lmao
sand egret
Look
you look them in the face
maintain eye contact
and right click it off
assert dominance.
exotic spoke
Isn’t it like 50k?
@sand egret fight me
Ps, what do the “R” and “M” stand for in that screenshot
sand egret
Mitigated and Reduced
sand egret
yes, R is the total hit and M is the mitigated portion of that hit
then it splits out Absorb and Blocked amount
which also means you didn't block the first one....so it isn't hitting both rolls 😃
exotic spoke
Yeah, but I blocked the important one
sand egret
whatever, Flashlight Hugger.
exotic spoke
Hey fight me
That Kong’s absorbed only 60k at most. Still survivable without it
And without demo, last stand, or anything else
Can we take three though. I’m assuming yes? But they won’t let me try it
exotic spoke
I mean - mitigation is already running
sand egret
just use Blessing of Kings and face roll it
sick sentinel
hey late did you see my trinket?
oblique garnet
Lul
sick sentinel
my haste cries in the corner rn
sick sentinel
I got like 1450
i got 1.6k
i wanted more crit heavy items tbh
but yeah i got decent stats
cba
oblique garnet
My stats are all over the place xD
I somehow ended up with 14% vers
While trying to avoid it
sick sentinel
hahaha its good tho
oblique garnet
Eh
sick sentinel
LMAO
i mean well for bleeds and stuff
I got my eng helm for the bleeds
wait how much versa is %14
oblique garnet
900~
oblique garnet
🤔
sick sentinel
ohh versa scales not that good it must be insane amount of stat
oblique garnet
Could be more
sick sentinel
let me check
idk i dont pay attention to % generaly how much i have
i think i have same crit mastery versa around 600-700 with 1.6k haste or something
im happy
yes
I put on vers items to check lmao
oblique garnet
Oh then i have even more xD
sick sentinel
that's my current stats btw
with 0 itf stacks ofc
hmm will check aswell
okey cant login
thanks servers
lucid bough
sick sentinel
wtb your crit
lucid bough
Flexing that leech~
sick sentinel
lol
good stats
I had 2,1% leech
but I just replaced 400+s+leech atal for 415+s opu trinket
warm plinth
I think you mean 2.1% 😏
lusty grotto
timid jay
😂 👌
lusty grotto
🤢
exotic spoke
Rip
twin geyser
may have been answered already does Earthlink stack?
lusty grotto
yes
twin geyser
thank you
oblique garnet
@sick sentinel dont even meme about it its been so long since we had people come and ask for siphoning to be good let it die
sick sentinel
i did 22 ML we had 4 mins for last boss we decided to go 21ML
then we missed with like 40 secs
but we lost time cause couldnt chain and didnt know much about dungeon
oblique garnet
Oh so its not as bad as i expected?
sick sentinel
specialy with bolstering
no it isnt bad we did some 2 peacekepeer pulls with some kites high stacks it worked well
also i have ele shammy in team so elemental helps with dangerous pulls when i dont have cds
oblique garnet
Same
exotic spoke
20 shrine didn’t seem to bad . We fucked it and entertained nim - since he watched - but we hardly do shrine and it’s only the fourth 20 key we’ve done
sick sentinel
like we used elemental twice to tank peace keepers and we kileld them outside
and came back with reaping
pulls was good just bosses
the thing with late is
he is the ele shaman
🤣
oblique garnet
Yeah
sick sentinel
siege did not go well tho
oblique garnet
Unlucky bugs in wm too
sick sentinel
missing legit one key to get 3k
one key i need 12 points yet cant get ML done
and it isnt a dungeon where you can wipe and recover like TD or freehold
oblique garnet
I dont think kings rest is that bad this week tbh
sick sentinel
first boss is just a wall
grievous and ticks is hard on healer
he is a good healer i know healed 21 KR tyranical before but with grievous stacks it was a problem for him
oblique garnet
Gotta use that safeguard in KR
sick sentinel
oh yeah for sure
oblique garnet
Dont really need CT for anything
exotic spoke
No reason not to use it on most bosses?
sick sentinel
i use it in FH aswell for first boss
oblique garnet
Eh
sick sentinel
but cant think of anything else that is a must
oblique garnet
Its not a must on first boss in fh
sick sentinel
oh triad aswell
oblique garnet
🤔
exotic spoke
Not saying it’s a must - but no reason not too
sick sentinel
our rogue couldnt feint or cloak fast so i had to use on him
cant you soak damage on triad 3rd witch needles
at least first big damage
talking about tyranical weeks tho
oblique garnet
CT covers more ground in fh so running safeguard cripples you a bit
sick sentinel
oh yeah but it was our first really high tyranical key so we used safeguard for the rogue
and dh was fine
oblique garnet
Rogue should have no issues with it
sick sentinel
i had to use safeguard like every 2nd frontal from boss so he doesnt get oneshotted
the shot is on a timer
oblique garnet
Only part which is sketchy is when first boss is in the air
sick sentinel
my rogue holds the GDC before the shot ( every 10 sec)
so he can feint
yeah i know
he didnt do it
so idk
or
he can pre-feint every other
oblique garnet
Stamina flasks for first boss as fell
sick sentinel
he said he wouldnt be fast enough i even counted the shots
and if he gets his on the one that he doesn't prefeint
eh unlucky I guess
yeah
getting used to mechanics tho in tyranical so its fine
make him get higher ilvl kappa
or more vers
yeah
when my rogue gets hit he gets left with 20k
when my DH gets hit he is left with 60k
yeah dh is fine with that
the give no shits
rogue wasnt but it was a long shot for us no experience on such a high key
oblique garnet
And then you had the ele shaman who didnt get hit kage 8)
sick sentinel
ye lol
i remember this channel in nighthold time
no one was talking xd
and when someone asked question thyme insta answered
right now every day people coming to ask about leech
xd
that used to be the thing pre-mdi
then they saw that the leech tanks were dying
and crit tanks were not taking damage
and they saw the light
oblique garnet
All me bby
lusty grotto
lies
oblique garnet
Twas not
sick sentinel
in mdi you could pick traits right?
sick sentinel
cause i think some people played with infusion
lusty grotto
i had to be here to shut them up
oblique garnet
Its because the gear is scaled up to 415
sick sentinel
the ones that knew what they were doing
they played with infusion
i dont remember but there isnt any items with bastion + infusion
yes
i might be mistaken tho
sick sentinel
there are from drustvar wqs
oh yeah i meant 415 😄
in live no
in TR yes
that's my setup rn
Idk if I want to change anything
im using engi helmet on KR except im going 3x bastion
but yeah engi helmet is still great
lusty grotto
thats my setup but with abyssal helm
sick sentinel
i just like big clap cause why not
I would like big claps
but the thing is
I was rolling shoulders
and I rolled great purifier
7 times
i got 4 of them and rolling for last month
no bastion + something good
I now have 3.3k titan juice
i got bastion and bfi rn
which isnt great and bloodsport changing it for ML and KR
oblique garnet
🤢
sick sentinel
but its cool
sick sentinel
no i didnt said bloodsport is cool im using it for 3rd boss ML
I am going NS on 3rd boss ML tyrr
burn me late
oblique garnet
Well you are an idiot
sick sentinel
legit only reason for some reason i always pepega that boss for some reason
I did it like twice
in 6 runs
oblique garnet
I did it once
oblique garnet
Figured it out that its horrible
oblique garnet
Do not touch that talent
sick sentinel
yeah
i think im fine now using bloodsport and being a bitch
since i learned kaege used NS
oblique garnet
Hey now we all have once strayed from the right path
sick sentinel
bloodsport ❤
oblique garnet
Once is forgiven
sick sentinel
it is great xd
oblique garnet
Twice is a sin
oblique garnet
Nerfplank and glickz were running it on ML
warm plinth
No, it's just something people saw top players doing and assumed that meant they should do it too.
oblique garnet
Hearthing out
sick sentinel
look dude
hmmmm
the first time was 2 months ago
and the second one was 10 days ago
sick sentinel
I had to re-assure myself
warm plinth
Had to do your due diligence?
sick sentinel
idk i tanked the 22 all offensive traits no NS only with diamond as something defensive as trinket
i lived
no issues
oh i actualy died but healer died so its fine
sick sentinel
my tip for motherlode is to remove dbm and get little wigs
oblique garnet
Last stand is still more valuable
sick sentinel
it makes 3rd boss a lot easier
oblique garnet
Using dbm in 2018
sick sentinel
IP it self is enough more then enough tbh with good healer and good baits