the 150 strengt
#protection
spice musk
str
atn i lose 10 ilvl with bis stats on my ring but the set ring has a socke aswell 😄
fathom forge
so i got a interesting Question so on my az peace i got 2deafening crash and 2 bastion and 1iron fortress and 1 bloodsport is that okay or do i need 3 deafening crash?
undone sun
stacking 3dc is really just for more damage on aoe, it'snot necessary
dim token
Is there a guide that teach how to tank m+s in general ? Like route, what to pull and tips
tired dagger
is the engineering helm worth it over another 415 azerite piece (in this case, Overseer's Riot Helmet) if I have access to DC on another piece? Trying to decide if I should scrap the helm and make the blacksmithing pants to replace my 400s
sick sentinel
watch streams
eng helm is really really good
but it limits you from using some chests and shoulders because ones with DC in the second ring or something like BS/DC are just not usable
because having more than 1 DC is not a thing that you should be doing
sick sentinel
then eng helm is REALLY fuckign good
tired dagger
gotcha, I'll hold off and craft pants next week then. Thanks!
stark fox
I have a 400 chest with BoM/BFI and a 415 chest with BFI/Bloodsport. For M+ is the 415 worth using and losing the 3rd BoM?
sand egret
yes
stark fox
thought so
urban briar
a
sick sentinel
b
undone sun
c
umbral forge
d
fathom forge
e
stark fox
Treacherous Covenant or Callious Reprisal?
sick sentinel
tc
stark fox
So does what I'm wearing look correct?
sand egret
for M+ i'd swap the DC in your shoulders to MS and the BFI in your chest to DC
but that's just me
it's definitely not wrong though
neon tangle
"NEW Beguiling
Azshara's Emissaries are present throughout the dungeon."
stark fox
I need a hybrid set for M+ and Raiding, so what would you recommend to balance the two?
stark fox
I care more about M+, but don't want my raid performance to suffer obv.
neon tangle
@stark fox At this point in the tier wear whatever for raids
stark fox
I just resubbed 3 weeks ago @neon tangle
sand egret
best answer is to mess with both and see what you like better
neon tangle
I would literally just wear the 3 you have and not worry about it
stark fox
So I basically just need to decide between Meticulous Scheming or Brace for Impact
neon tangle
the ideal would probably be to use BfI for raids, and metic for m+, but unless the rest of your gear is dumpster level, I'd just use metic
what's your overall ilvl? and shield ilvl?
neon tangle
yeah, go metic
sand egret
damn, full fail sweep on the Cache of Disappointment
sans my bear cuz clearly the universe wants me to play my furboi still
stark fox
I got a 415 2hander from my cache
sand egret
still the only one who gets upgrades every week
neon tangle
You certainly don't need the extra survival that BfI brings, ESPECIALLY in raids
and in m+ I'd do metic anyways
sand egret
nope
toxic wadi
it takes so much effort and concentration
sand egret
just takes practice, like any role imho
toxic wadi
well I main an MM hunter, and it's much more easy going than tanking. tanking is intesne
intense*
true
but it takes more practice than other roles
sand egret
takes more outside knowledge, really
urban briar
seductive power or iron fortress for mythic raid?
oblique garnet
idk
tanking high keys
is pretty stressful
watching dps fuck up
over and over again
sand egret
that isn't tanking though
that's observing constant failure
certainly not exclusive to high keys 😃
toxic wadi
the APM required to play prot warrior is much higher than let's say MM hunter
sand egret
yeah, but apm isn't necessarily coordinated with stress
low apm, high punishing specs, for instance, can be way more stressful.
which ultimately is subject to the notion of what causes you stress
for some it's the mechanical demand of execution of your rotation, others it's the social pressure, etc.
hearty ether
Friends, 420 Skull Splitter or 405 Blade of Encroaching Death?
sand egret
how can you say "nah", then agree with me?
Late I feel like you just look at what's recently said, and just give the opposite opinion
lol
420 by a landslide, @hearty ether
oblique garnet
Nah man its just that
Ive had so many keys recently
Where people collectively choke as we are about to time it
and then we deplete it
sand egret
...you did it again!
urban briar
gentlemen seductive power or iron fortress?
oblique garnet
Iron Fortress
neon tangle
@sand egret search for From: late "nah"
oblique garnet
XD
sand egret
"Oxygen is essential for humans to live"
"Nah, I breath oxygen all the time" - probably Late 😃
oblique garnet
I havent used swedish in so long so i dont even remember how to speak it properly anymore XD
urban briar
tyvm\
umbral forge
this guy joined our +12 King's Rest as Tank and equipped a blacksmith hammer
sand egret
what a legend
warm plinth
And? You time it?
umbral forge
no we kicked him.
Waiting for a good tank to queue back on.
Both of these are from German servers 😰
sand egret
what am i looking at?
warm plinth
Is that like Ragnaros or Quelthalas people for NA?
umbral forge
yes
sand egret
ah
warm plinth
Oh dear. Don’t do it!
I did have a prot pally tank in Legion once who was spectacular. Didn’t notice he was from Rag until he linked his drop to trade and it was in Spanish lol
umbral forge
oh we got a good tank
oblique garnet
i heard it was some shitter who joined jettom
umbral forge
hey don't talk bad about my friends
neon tangle
Maybe I’ll be a good tank some day
vocal skiff
I am from Brazil, though I don't play on Azralon
warm plinth
And losing the armor from VotTW
sand egret
pun = missed 😦
vocal skiff
afaik
warm plinth
Never had the pleasure of playing with anyone from Azralon
Oh shit, I missed it Blade. Fuck
sand egret
not gonna lie, that one was a long shot haha
warm plinth
Low blow. WotN. I'm caught up
sand egret
One of the 5 greatest rappers of all time.
warm plinth
greatest
rappers
????
undone sun
it's a chappelle show joke
warm plinth
Oh
sand egret
🙌
lusty grotto
turn that shit up!
oblique garnet
@umbral forge You tied the deaths with the dh by dying 4 times : )
sick sentinel
overwhelming power still best for dmg as prot as applications are removed when dmg is taken?
or would unstable flames be better?
sick sentinel
engineering helm is worth losing a stack of bastion?
oblique garnet
unstable flames is better
orchid token
theres no way thats true, OP outsims it by double
or slightly less than double in aoe
AND OP provides extra SB recharge while UF is just parry while its up
unless sims are inaccurate there's no way unstable flames wins out
potent anvil
got 425 idol trinket 
oblique garnet
unstable flames has 60+% uptime in m+
sand egret
yo, for Jes, do his little shits bolster him when they die?
oblique garnet
no
umbral forge
I beat Late!
oblique garnet
you should
oblique garnet
i could have pulled small and you would have lost : )
umbral forge
If you were the kind of person to do that you wouldn't be Late
oblique garnet
I miss big pulls 😪
umbral forge
The officer who recruited me to this guild was very "Nah we don't need a new hunter"
Guild Master, guy we ran with is like
"Dude just play your hunter and keep your Priest as an alt man it's fine"
"We're 1k world we're not tryhard"
junior ivy
i got 475 idol trinket
umbral forge
doubt it
sick sentinel
X
oblique garnet
@sick sentinel youve done keys with ashbone?
sick sentinel
Yes lmao
It was really really bad
Like, super scuffed
He probably thinks I'm retarded or something
sick sentinel
You know him?
oblique garnet
Yeah hes pretty good
sick sentinel
To be fair
We had 3 alts
Our boomie was on ww
Our hunter was on his 3rd alt, his mage
And our healer's friend was on his 5th character, his rogue
sick sentinel
How did you know?
tender imp
fallen fox
for M+ 370 with BoM or 385 with IF ?
sick sentinel
@fallen fox 385
oblique garnet
Also kage i was going through discord
Trying to find out which server is giving me random notifications
sick sentinel
I didn't give you a role on mine
sick sentinel
So when we do @keys you shouldn't get one
oblique garnet
Yh
sick sentinel
I gave you a @friends role tho :P
oblique garnet
Idk man i have server mute on all of the servers im on
Still get hit by the random fucking sound every so often
Even tho nobody is tagging me
sick sentinel
Lmao
undone sun
turn off the notification sound?
sick sentinel
He needs it for dms
oblique garnet
^
sick sentinel
I had sound on 4 (with muted channels ofc, like bot channels)
Now I have 3
The thing is, I am an admin on all 4 lmao
I may or may not have class in like less than 5 hours
I should be sleeping
sick sentinel
But timewaliking once on all characters+islands on mage+dh had prio
Wait I just re-read the shield
Does having 10%vers effectively make your healthpool 10% bigger with that shield?
Against a lot of little hits
sick sentinel
And does the vers damage reduction affect the health sacrificed
I wanna see it in action
sand egret
i'm talking if that shield counts like RP or like an On-Use item
sand egret
cuz that's 5% of your hp that is feeding into some funny shenanigans
sick sentinel
SHIT
sick sentinel
That's a lot bigger than I thought
exotic spoke
What shield?
oblique garnet
Can the shield kill you🤔
tired dagger
how much ilvl are the cos gloves worth?
worth replacing 420 ahste/vers gloves for 405 cos gloves?
umbral forge
They're worth -15ilvl.
Meaning if you have them in 415 ilvl they're as good as 400 gloves with stats
so absolutely not
torn sleet
@umbral forge why are they so bad? I have CoS gloves at equal iLvl to other gloves. Thought the shield would be a nice bonus
umbral forge
It's what Icy Veins is saying.
But to give a TL:DR explanation, the shield is so small and weak you're essentially losing one line of stat bonuses.
because we're tanks, the shield will deplete really fast.
And the gloves are design to punish if you don't have it up
And the shield itself is weak mitigation at RNG intervals.
sick sentinel
Exactly the opposite of what we want
torn sleet
On a similar note, how is damage calculated when multiple absorb shields are in play. Say I have the diamond barrier, resounding protection, IP, and the glove absorb-shield. Like, is incoming damage spread between ALL equally? Or is it FIFO?
torn sleet
And to clarify, I mean when I have ALL those absorb shields up
umbral forge
@sand egret OLD MAN IT'S YOUR TIME TO SHINE
someone call his nurse and wake him from his siesta
sick sentinel
Jet you're being rude
umbral forge
hey
sick sentinel
First of all, respect your elders 🤣
umbral forge
ok sorry I shouldn't imply he lives in the pacific
sick sentinel
And secondly, at least he has contributed something
umbral forge
hey
it was a joke
I don't think blade takes it personally if I jokingly suggest he has a nurse
lusty grotto
🤔 the... the pacific?
umbral forge
because we joked around after he didn't know what yeet meant
and we had to explain it to him
sick sentinel
I also made a joke with the "respect your elders" you absolute mongo
lusty grotto
🤔
lusty grotto
what the hell does the pacific have to do with all of this
jettom quit drugs already
torn sleet
Didn’t mean to stir controversy. I was just curious 😞
umbral forge
Oh
sick sentinel
And yes, @torn sleet bladesong knows about this
sand egret
🤔
umbral forge
The pacific, notably hawaii, is the only place where at this point of time in the day you'd have a siesta
lusty grotto
here ill summon him faster
sick sentinel
It's not controversy, me and jet are just playing around
lusty grotto
@sand egret viable
sick sentinel
Oh hey blade
sand egret
da fuq ya'll going on about
lusty grotto
shit that summon went so fast it worked in -5 seconds
umbral forge
Greetings Bladesong. We hoped you'd be able to offer an explanation on how active mitigation functions, as @torn sleet had a question regarding it.
torn sleet
@sand egret how is damage calculated when multiple absorb shields are in play? Say I have the diamond barrier, resounding protection, IP, and the glove absorb-shield. Like, is incoming damage spread between ALL equally? Or is it FIFO?
sand egret
answer is depends
lusty grotto
yeah IP is dead last
sand egret
naturally they re-apply so the order may change
lusty grotto
after block even for IP
sand egret
then, IP splits with your hp
lusty grotto
(and armor)
sand egret
however, the gloves....
torn sleet
And blade there’s no benefit at all in using the CoS gloves?
sand egret
if they work the other way
sand egret
(i haven't tested this)
lusty grotto
i have a question for the old man
sand egret
if they split then yes, they'll dip
lusty grotto
RP rules is before armor?
sand egret
Machimba's is an example
sick sentinel
If they work like bandages
sand egret
after armor
sick sentinel
They are better than you think they are
sand egret
well RP benefits from all of them
sand egret
bandages basically give you a shield that spits damage taken with IP
lusty grotto
pretty sure... that if diamond works the same way the diamond does in the oppulence fight, it works after block. Shit i just answered myself
lusty grotto
yaya
sick sentinel
If diamond was like bandages
It would have been like
Twice as good
Or more even
Like, absolutely fucking insane oh my god levels of good
sand egret
yeah, all this means is that as long as you can pump IP it gives more value to shields like M'chimba's while it's active.
so in short @torn sleet : In that scenario it would be - Gloves > Diamond/RP > IP > Health . However, there are certain items (I believe they're "on-use" ones, like M'chimba's from KR) that act differently. Namely, they take damage after IP but before your HP. So it would be - Diamond/RP > IP > Gloves > Health. I don't have the gloves so I can't tell you one or the other.
torn sleet
So if IP is last on the list, is there any benefit in stack bloodsport IF you have a bunch of absorb items?
torn sleet
Just thinking ahead. I had to choose bloodsport on my very first 415 piece and it broke my heart. Trying to see if there’s any way to make it an advantage
weary veldt
first try 😃
lusty grotto
haste versa 🤢
sick sentinel
Nah dude
Haste crit is good for prot
Talking mplus
Haste vers yes for raids
But nobody cares about the raid, nothing deals damage in there anyway
sand egret
@torn sleet well to make you feel better, for certain shields like the one I mentioned, your Bloodsport has effectively 50% more value as long as that other shield is > 1
😃
that's a long-winded way of saying, BS is pretty cool. It helps shore up Magic damage, so there is a nice upside with your situation.
sick sentinel
But there are better traits in most situations
sand egret
Against magic, no.
lusty grotto
flashback to yesterday when that kid came in with the whole " i stack bloodsport and marok is wrong" thing
sand egret
BS gets a bad rep ¯_(ツ)_/¯
sand egret
dude likes BS
sick sentinel
Shit I missed that
sand egret
¯_(ツ)_/¯
lusty grotto
and said marok's spreadsheet is wrong
sand egret
like i said
sick sentinel
Also played NS?
lusty grotto
no idea kaage
sand egret
and I ain't gonna spell that one out for ya
sick sentinel
Tbf
sick sentinel
So you could keep block up
lusty grotto
he left the discord pretty fast
sick sentinel
Never surrender
lusty grotto
after he linked my io
sick sentinel
Would still be never worth it lmao
lusty grotto
because the internet's way to winning arguments is to link io!
sick sentinel
Lol
umbral forge
I hope we get a season 3 of Chuu2.
sick sentinel
WhAt's yOur nUmBeR ??
umbral forge
I think my priest is 1318
I 2 chested a +18 on my Hunter today so I should catch up soon
thou
sick sentinel
LOL
umbral forge
honestly when people get here and start being intimidating I just panic ping kaege and late
lusty grotto
😢
cinder pasture
1934 here....So close to 2k
umbral forge
Yeah nim.
Retards like Taij will just disregard whatever we have to say cause that's all they care about
sick sentinel
People are stupid
sick sentinel
They respect the opinions of higher ranked people a lot more
umbral forge
yeah
I mean, I do too.
I don't respect the hunters though
I'd say why but I'm 99% sure I'd be banned from here so DM me if you want to know
lusty grotto
multitasking!
sick sentinel
How many hours in are you jet
open bluff
umbral forge
I'm at 2 hours today.
And my phone is IP68
umbral forge
I don't use titan panel anymore.
You bullied me away from it.
umbral forge
no
sick sentinel
That will take a lot more
umbral forge
I actually hate all other horde races for tanking so much I'll stick to my nightborne warrior.
Plus it gives me attention
Kaege liked my reason for not trusting the hunters
lusty grotto
lol
sick sentinel
Was solid
umbral forge
oh wait
I should post that in off topic
Anyways
is all the loot from the new raid out
honest canopy
Think so yes
Btw, is there a way to make The game look better?
Ia have it maxed on all settings rn bu The i noticed some scaling shit
sick sentinel
Absolutely no clue
sick sentinel
I play the game on 3 and raid In the lowerst possible graphics
With projected textures enabled and high particle density
honest canopy
Aw
I used to play on low stuff as well. Then i bought beefy shit. Maxin it all now, game is actually looking on
Ok
sick sentinel
I did mine
coral scroll
Current stats (crit - 543, haste - 1459, Mastery - 508, vers - 1094). should i be targeting more crit and mastery for more block/parry? or am i going in the right direction? I havent sacrificed ilvl except for a 5ilvl lower piece with a socket. any recommendations for me in regards to targetting gear?
stark sage
hey how well does BFI stack prot friends
sand egret
@honest canopy jack this one up 😃
stark sage
our prot tank got a new azerite, and he has 1x BFI already and wondering if having 2x would be wasteful
lusty grotto
@coral scroll ilvl
stark sage
how i read it, it should stack linearly
lusty grotto
not at all
stark sage
just want to confirm
steel mauve
our stat priority is in the icyveins guide, there isnt a end all be all stat that you stack other than haste, crit is good in m+ mastery and vers have their uses in both m+ and raiding
lusty grotto
but yes its linear for the most part
steel mauve
and hopefully saccing ilvl for a socket isnt on a weapon or armor piece
coral scroll
I am wearing highest ilvl, but what i am asking is should i be trying to get more crit or mastery with how much haste/vers i have. every piece i am wearing has either haste or vers, and only two pieces are not just straight up haste vers
@lusty grotto
sand egret
tbh you're thinking about it a bit too much
worthy dagger
after so many months i finally got a rezan
coral scroll
didnt know if stats were worth a shit or not. was just curious, tbh
sand egret
a) you don't really "get" get as much as you luck into it b) ilvl is still king and c) if equal ilvl you can sort them out according to the hierarchy
lusty grotto
where are people getting this whole versa thing
steel mauve
secondaries arent worth much this expac honestly, and it wont be noticeable defensively switching from one stat to another outside of haste honestly
lusty grotto
i swear there have been so many comments about versatility lately
lusty grotto
uhh
lusty grotto
for KR? just bring whatever
lusty grotto
you're taking a priest on grievous week
sand egret
that's what i'm askin!
lusty grotto
i hope you think about that long
sand egret
Stewart, get yo mans
lusty grotto
if you have to take a priest
make sure hes holy
cause holy fuck disc can't handle grievous at all
sand egret
👀
lusty grotto
you should check if they have run keys today
honest canopy
I am done Jettom
umbral forge
sup
umbral forge
No servers are currently available
sand egret
nvm i got the pally
lusty grotto
lmao
sand egret
womp womp
lusty grotto
good choice
lusty grotto
make sure youre safeguard 😃
sand egret
feral
lusty grotto
lmao rip
sand egret
Oh i bet
lusty grotto
also on mongos fucking up on 3rd
sand egret
so does Swiftmend 😃
lusty grotto
and drain fluids on 2nd
lusty grotto
swiftmend is baseline for guardian? i cant remember cause i barely play nimchippy
sand egret
naw, resto affinity
sand egret
oh, both get it
modern brook
vocal skiff
So did you folks see that season 3 affix will be Beguilling?
Azshara's Emissaries are present throughout the dungeon.
lusty grotto
yeah
its exactly as blade said
what was the phrase
"like infested, but without the heal part"
to paraphrase
vocal skiff
Do we know exactly what it will entail?
lusty grotto
meaning you will have to tunnel the mobs
and will be absolute aids with grievous of course
because of course grievous works with reaping damage, so why wouldn't it with the pulse aoe
honestly its early and the abilities might be more than just the whole Azshara's gift arcane explotion thing
so yeah we def need more info
astral crystal
yo so that pvp essence teho...
umbral forge
What
umbral forge
Why would you want me to quit
orchid token
idk you said it
how can you let me be this toxic
oh you're a hunter now tho that's as good as quitting
umbral forge
It's more difficult than raid tanking at least 🤷
orchid token
its good you can feign death because you're dead to me
umbral forge
No no, I'm a Hunter not a Death Knight.
I don't play Forsaken either
sick sentinel
So I've decided to jump the gun and finally buy Skyrim on my PS4
Did not know it had mods now
Sadly it lacks big titty mods, anime shit and the countless nightelf mods
With big tittie's
umbral forge
I missed you @orchid token.
I like your no bullshit attitude when talking.
honest canopy
Switch ❤
lusty grotto
you had 2 tries poyo
switch or pc
you failed both
cries in unfinished spiderman
sick sentinel
If I'm gonna play on switch then I'd just take my Alexa Skyrim
lusty grotto
also fuck those taskmaster drones
sick sentinel
Which I still can't believe is a thing
lusty grotto
idk man i love my switch
sick sentinel
Ur right, I'd love a switch too
umbral forge
I like it for Smash Bros
lusty grotto
been a while since i smashed
lusty grotto
i insta bought hollow knight tho
umbral forge
Hahah
sick sentinel
That's the true game
umbral forge
Lets not weeb out and scare Nim-onii-chan away
lusty grotto
i have actually never played splatoon
undone sun
hmmm
lusty grotto
i dont think i know anyone that plays it
sick sentinel
U cant stop this thyme
umbral forge
There's Poyo
umbral forge
And I play it albeit casually. I have a Choco Octo for.... reasons.
sick sentinel
Aye chocolate lover
umbral forge
Chocolate is great
sick sentinel
It really is
lusty grotto
@exotic spoke got owned
undone sun
essentially infested
sick sentinel
My issue with it is the 100 yards
I'd be fine with 50-70 yards
Because of how "easy" reaping is they are going to make it tick very hard
lusty grotto
it seems a bit better than infested though
sick sentinel
Let's be real, anything is better then infested
lusty grotto
the fucking heal was the worst part
willow scarab
Imagine wiping then trying to get back to the mob
umbral forge
Hi guys and POYO, whats your favorite dungeon in wow; except TBC & Cata ones?
willow scarab
And if it spawns randomly around the dungeon so you have to alternate routes
lusty grotto
also the multiplying on it
im ok with that
except on teeming weeks maybe
idk
its blizzard, they will make it ULTRA HD AIDS
4K
mortal brook
fav dungeon was old Deadmines. it was gentle, low mechanic and pure. now its everything that's mechanically obnoxious with wow @umbral forge
sick sentinel
@umbral forge Hall's of reflection only for the 1st boss, overall, grimrail Depot from WoD
mortal brook
Halls of Reflection was boss
mortal brook
also it had the secret test area inside it 😄
umbral forge
My favorite is HoL.
Great story build up with mechanically easy yet punishing bosses and trash.
sick sentinel
HoR was my favorite only for the 1st, but i did enjoy the run away with jaina/slyv
sick shell
How bad is Breastplate of Arterial Protection for Prot?
willow scarab
Link it
sick shell
Kk
sick sentinel
That's the chest from either UR or ToS
sick shell
willow scarab
We gotta see the Azerite options
mortal brook
doesnt have bom but still a solid piece tbh
umbral forge
Ara ara
willow scarab
It’s not bad
sick shell
Just trying to see if I should feel bad for randoming it
mortal brook
sick sentinel
Its bfi/bs
sick sentinel
It's ok for if ur lacking a DC
willow scarab
You could have rolled a worse chest
lusty grotto
you shouldn't feel bad if it's higher ilvl than what you have
willow scarab
Champions chest is better though
mortal brook
no bom but def not the worst
sick sentinel
^ pm
sick shell
It was to replace my 405 Champions Chest
sick sentinel
Yea replace it
willow scarab
Then you’re fine
lusty grotto
you're good
sick sentinel
If it's a 415, replace
willow scarab
It’s middle of the pack from vendor
Replace it with champions chest when you kill mythic
sick sentinel
^
sick shell
I'll be blown if I get the mythic chest this very same week xD
lusty grotto
nah you can break it up for residuum
sick sentinel
Never roll gear before u do ur raid
willow scarab
When that happens I just tell myself I paid 1750 for the raid chest
Eases the pain
sick sentinel
I just do roll gear until after raid
sick shell
Or use it for Fury as I don't want to reforged all the time I go DPS
willow scarab
Eventually you’ll have a 415 arms fury and 2 prot sets
sick shell
Not arms
sick sentinel
If ur using for raiding then it's actually pretty good chest since it gives u BFI
sick shell
I don't like playing arms
willow scarab
I have an arms set for pvp
sick shell
Feels so slow to me
willow scarab
It is slow you’re not wrong
sick sentinel
Since the chest from champs doesn't have BFI I believe
willow scarab
But it has sharpen blade
willow scarab
It’s BoM TC
lusty grotto
ya
sick sentinel
The good thing is our best pieces are on the first 4 bosses
Now hopefully next tier a shield/sword/helm/gloves/wrist come the first boss
lusty grotto
who gears for raiding anymore lol
sick sentinel
Sco
lusty grotto
oof
sick sentinel
Lol
sick shell
currently what I have for Azerite options between Raiding and Mythic Prot and Fury spec. Currently wearing what I taking into Mythics
lusty grotto
not gonna lie
sick sentinel
I'm gonna be real with u
lusty grotto
what the fuck are those traits
sick sentinel
I wanna punch u in the throat
lusty grotto
go Bloodsport/BFI on chest, go DC on shoulders
sick sentinel
Ur helm, go DC not bfi, also OP
Shoulders go DC and OP, again
lusty grotto
good lord
sick shell
I never said I made good choices :(
lusty grotto
you picked ablative shielding christ
sick sentinel
U have 3 DC's might as well captialize with the damage
sick sentinel
I'd say stay IF with chest
lusty grotto
eh
i mean
sure
he should go bloodsport though
its a way better option than that other crap he has
sick sentinel
Over bloodrites on the chest, yees
On the shoulders Swirling sands is not better then DC
sick shell
Is Bloodrites not good for the haste proc? Or is it because it's a random proc?
lusty grotto
dont overvalue haste over defensive traits
sick sentinel
But also it's random
lusty grotto
and haste procs much less
sick sentinel
Like the scheming on ur helm would be fine if that was on ur chest
ionic fern
👋
sick sentinel
Hi
sick shell
I mean all my helms are 405 if one of the others would be better
sick sentinel
If ur using this set for m+ that helm highlighted is the only one with BoM making it the best of the bunch
Also the 3rd helm doesn't have the extra ring slot so it's just trash in of itself
The one from darkshore
lusty grotto
btw you could just check out the icy veins guide and go by the azerite rankings (there are 2 lists, 1 for raids and 1 for M+)
sick shell
The one from Darkshore does have 5 rings O.o
umbral forge
Yes
sick sentinel
Seems my brain deleted the other ring when I looked but yeah nvm
Still the helm ur currently using is better then the darkshore one
exotic spoke
@lusty grotto Rip that key
exotic spoke
Peace
lusty grotto
if you run ToS
exotic spoke
Felt doable - just gotta get practice in
exotic spoke
Will do
exotic spoke
Cant stop won't stop
lusty grotto
all the pings
sick sentinel
Never not not pinging
exotic spoke
But yeah, that Shrine felt doable. only 3rd time doing a +20
umbral forge
Some of you guys never played the Pirate popup game with your uncle and it shows
ionic fern
🤔
umbral forge
good luck Nikkj 😃
honest canopy
Playing BDK makes me wanna cut myself
We are at 17%
so not even close
i guess we will reach singel digit today
eventually kill tomorrow
or monday...
sick sentinel
what is the proper way to tank the adds for mythic champ 3-tank pug? never done it before
is it mainly the crusader to worry about?
little marsh
one tank gets the adds, the 2 other swap the boss
if you want to do it safely, get them into the areas (in "focus boss"f phase only) for making them not die and buff the boss, and try to stack them in the same place when they die
honest canopy
What you do is that one tank do the adds and one the boss
then you zerg the boss
If my guild can kill the boss in 1 ½ min
anyone should be able to
sick sentinel
how do i get agro on all of them initially, it seems like the dps pull agro and i can never get them all back on me
ionic fern
Charge in Avatar->TC->Revenge->TC and you should have aggro with no issues.
umbral forge
@honest canopy @sand condor
Open chest bois, jikan-desu
honest canopy
Will do
honest canopy
I want ring
umbral forge
Why would you play a Nightborne Hunter 😢
stiff bear
does the rats in freehold bolster this week? wondering since they didnt give bursting last time it was up
tacit solstice
Rats havent applied affixes for 5 weeks along with maggots in waycrest
they dont bolster
wary lantern
They should just remove weekly chest lol
little marsh
what engeneering azerite trait protection gets for max defense? the 5% dmg reduction thing?
or the hp-str/haste-movspeed?
strong forum
In pure defense its prolly SSC, general usefulness RNG is best
crystal dirge
would you swap a 405 helm that has BoM and DC (got another of that) to a 420 that has Bloodsport/IF and Callous Reprisal?
wintry olive
Is it advisable to go DPS loot spec for weekly chest ?
And if so at what gearing stage should that be done ?
I have 410 weapon and 415 shield, so im thinking its time if DPS loot spec is a thing for Prot.
sand condor
Itemlevel matters most @crystal dirge
crystal dirge
Aight, danke! Let's hope jadefire loves me this week then ahah
orchid token
@wintry olive what would you be aiming to go dps loot spec for
everything fury/arms can get, prot can get, except 2hs
going DPS loot spec removes tank trinkets from the pool, sure, but it also adds 2hs, and there's more 2hs in the game than there are tank trinkets so you're decreasing, not increasing the likelihood of effective loot
its not like blood DK or demon hunter where you just straight up lose tank trinkets from the loot table and its a net piositive no matter what
lime mantle
Spore is shit. So is fang.
Vial x whatever
orchid token
fang and vial if you dont mind managing two cooldowns
wintry olive
@orchid token , thank you for a detailed explanation.
I had thought something along those lines too. I will stick to my Prot looting then.
orchid token
fang for the strength alone, the dps proc is not as strong for warrior as it is for other tanks since our raw dps is already so good
woeful otter
ok thanks 😄
pastel holly
I got to either buy 415 helmet or chest. Both would be upgrades from 400 pieces with boM each. WHich one would you pick? Are there more "good" chests or helmets (and visaversa)
orchid token
cant remmeber from memory but count up the helms with BOM and the chests with BOM
keeping BOM will be more important than any other traits on the items
pastel holly
ye did it. I took helmet and got one of the raptor looking ones wioth BoM/Bloodsport on the outer ring and dirty transfusion/that trait which damages the enemy when you block
think quite okay
orchid token
bom/if
its a good defensive combo
i think that helm has overwhelming power too
iirc
pastel holly
ye its fine. It hasnt OP tough but thats okay. It has head my call
orchid token
o yea thats right
pastel holly
greathelm of the putrid path it is, sorry i don`t play with the english client
and kraken shell pouldrons
do you guys use the defensive traits on the third row or opt out to go more of the damage route?
ionic fern
Depends what are the options.
For example with the Kraken Shell Pauldrons that have Earthlink/Unstable Flames/Crystalline Carapace i'd definetly got UF for m+ over the other 2
pastel holly
ok thank you, i just took all defensive due to just working my way up the ladder in myth+. Just got ilvl of 405 and cleared all on 10, now working my way up again
and i took 2x this trait which gives you more hp for each mob around on procc
ionic fern
Ofc it's not purely DPS - it was just what was on the mentioned shoulders.
sick sentinel
I take UF for the surv
golden dove
Oh it was more aimed at amber
sick sentinel
hey guys could you help me with choosing my new chest ? all are 420 azerit: i alrdy got 2x bom, 1xdc. my old chest (420) got 1xbfi,1xbs (i chose blood rite instead my new chest has: 1xcr, 1x IF should i stick with my old chest ?
im usually tanking m+ , forgot to mention
I would use the second one
Middle and inner traits also matter
For example if one if them has IV and the other has like self reliance or moment of glory I would prefer IV
is my old one
Deep denizen for sure
Bfi/if/lifespeed/rp
ok thanks for your help i wasnt sure bcuz of blood rite and azerite veins
Both are bad
Azerite veins can be super good in grievous but that's about it
In non-grievous I would never use it
And bloodrite is good only in explosive week
oh ok ^^ didnt know that
thanks 😃
pastel holly
which is the "best" food without statbuuf to buy to fill yourself up during pulls in grevious weeks? Craftable or just the one from the taverns, what are you using?
sweet summit
The fish feast
pastel holly
where do i get it? craft it?
sick sentinel
5 darkmoon fish
digital frigate
Hi
Is there someone here who is experienced with Mekka kill?
I want to post log for review on what I could do better.
wild rampart
Did anybody test out the prot warrior nerfs to unstoppable force?
strong forum
@wild rampart 
wild rampart
Cheers @strong forum 😃 I'm a doofus!
zealous crest
Is Lurker's Insidious Gift good for tanking or damage is too much?
that you receive
sick sentinel
it's good
broken yew
what traits would you guys go for raid tanking
i have 3x bom 3x dc as of now
but im thinking its a bit too offensive of a build since my dmg isnt as important as in m+
sick sentinel
and here he says something along the lines of hentai is art
austere oar
@broken yew it's good for raids also
i'm running 3 BoM 2 DC 1 Gizmo for 8 bosses in M
broken yew
i could get a bonded souls instead of a rc
i heard bonded got a nerf a while ago and its not really good anymore
but idk
broken yew
ye it doesnt seem that great
lucid bough
hum, got 410 socket idol - should replace mythic prism in high m+ right? I was using vial+prism combo
sick sentinel
the socket is what would make it worth if anything
sick sentinel
one is burst heal and the other is damage smoothing
austere oar
I either play a 2nd DC or RF personally
but if you want survival you should aim for BfI or IF
sick sentinel
if you are between those 2 then sure
topaz skiff
quick question I have shit trinkets. a 395 rezan's a 405 briny barnacle and a 410 vial ... which should I run highest ilvl or?
sick sentinel
I have shit trinkets
rezans+vial
sick sentinel
they are like, 2 of the best trinkets for prot lmao
supple glacier
Idol 410 soket better then prism 415???
sick sentinel
the 410 idol had a socket
topaz skiff
ok I have shit Ilvl trinks was what I meant I was more curious as to if I drop the 405 barnacle and use a 395 Rezan's and a 410 Vial... if that was a better setup ?
topaz skiff
kk I'm relatively new to prot so wasn'
wasn't sure if the strength drop was worth
thanks for the help 😄
austere oar
str is cool but trinkets are all about the effects
broken yew
reclearing up to 6/9 and then cabal M
ionic fern
Pretend to be a BRM.
inner onyx
if i have 415 block and 405 diamond w/ socket cos trinket is straight to scrapper right?
mainly tank m+
ionic fern
Idol you mean?
I still keep mine around for when ever i might need it for w/e reason.
ionic fern
But out of those i'd use Diamond/Block .so if you need/want to scrap then yes..to the scrapper.
inner onyx
no need just previously people gave me thee impression that trinkets like that weren't super the greatest just thought i'd check in case at some point i decide to stop holding it.
maybe i'll hold it in case though. thanks @ionic fern
hallow phoenix
I like to use idol in m+ if I can coordinate with my healer
Letting him catweave for an extra 8 seconds is usually worth it
inner onyx
makes sense
jagged bay
hello i got a question does average dmg on weapon matter? i mean swords maces and axes have different avg dmg on the same ilvl
sick sentinel
ilvl matters
brisk ferry
they should have the same avg dmg tho?
different varying dmg and speed, but the average damage should be the same
also good morning everyone
sick sentinel
good morning
jagged bay
hello the sword is 481-803 avg the axe 417-867 and the mace 561-722 all on 415 the sword gave the most tooltip dps tho
lime mantle
Weapon damage (average) is meaningless post normalization
Because of wow math being reworked
brisk ferry
yeah exactly, so the actual damage of the weapons are all the same
jagged bay
alright thanks!
wintry ermine
is there any information of the prot specific azerite neck things which come in next patch?
I've only seen some paladin specific
lime mantle
Don’t think about it because no way some go into release@in their current iteration
astral crystal
the one we know of is vision of perfection or w/e
has a chance to proc avatar at 40% effectiveness or some shit
and lowers avatar cd
yo im interested in that pvp essence ethough
the one that gives you 40% dr for 2 seconds, then 20% dr for 2 seconds
45 sec CD
seems really good
basically rune tap
charred vigil
We still looking good for 8.2 or what?
brisk ferry
ofc
sick sentinel
ye
austere oar
We just lose some dmg, rest is intact so we still strong
brisk ferry
potentially gain some dmg depending on if they rework that new essence
charred vigil
Ok I’m trying to settle on whether I should focus my prot warrior or prot pally for mythic+ and occasional raids
brisk ferry
IMO both looking good
coral scroll
425 bandage with a socket worth it over 400 rezan's?
astral crystal
yeah prot's looking great still
pally might be really good in 8.2 as well
wouldn't hurt to have both ready
charred vigil
Yeah they are both sitting at 400 ilvl just waiting now really trying to get keys on both each week