protection

[ornate wagon]

I took gemhide over vampirism speed, probably a mistake

Vampiric*

[sick sentinel]

vamp speed is bis on explosive 😛

[mortal brook]

vamp stronk for reaping

[sick sentinel]

also good for reaping

so, good only if you are pulling reaping with with a pack or a boss

** WHICH YOU SHOULD **

gemhide is also good though because you have like almost perma uptime on it

[ornate wagon]

Working on gearing a paladin now. Just hit 120 last night

[sick sentinel]

do you know how much is 3% DR when you are getting hit by those cleaves on WCM left side

[exotic spoke]

Fuck WM

[sick sentinel]

yes, fuck warmode

🤣

both my rings have avoidance so I have bis gear for waycrest kappa

[exotic spoke]

Lol, I enjoy warmode.

Actual WM wasn’t bad last week

Timed a 19

[sick sentinel]

yeah I also have wm on all the time except when doing keys lmao

I like waycrest

like, a lot

I also like it when booting my gf in like 13-14s

it's skystep manor

[exotic spoke]

High tyrannical keys though the coven....

[sick sentinel]

nah it's fine

just lust after MC

and you're fine

and second pot on round 2

healthpots/healthstones

[exotic spoke]

Yeah, haven’t done it in a bit - so we’ll have to see if we get it. We’re just doing higher keys and my opinion is changing

I just wish we had more than 9 dungeons though.... we really could use a 10th

[sick sentinel]

LMAO

[exotic spoke]

Maybe something to do with trolls... maybe undead trolls? In zandalar?

Wonder why they didn’t do that

[sick sentinel]

first boss should be nerfed

you literally reach a point where it almost oneshots you

we had the same person take spit gold 5 times in a row

[exotic spoke]

In the dungeon which doesn’t exist?

Anyone get anything good from the chest of disappointment

[mortal brook]

i got a merekthas on all 3 characters

number generators right?

[exotic spoke]

Rng is random

[lusty grotto]

let me check

[modern brook]

friendly reminder to adjust your system clock if u open ur chest at the same time every week

thats a little coding joke for yall

:^)

[exotic spoke]

Lol

[lusty grotto]

welp my rogue got a ring

[inland mesa]

change it back to Y2K to get a 425 shield

[exotic spoke]

Swear to god... if they use local system time as the seed they would be so stupid

[modern brook]

🤷

[lusty grotto]

also just got exalted with 7th legion wee

[modern brook]

I wouldnt rule it out

[mortal brook]

wow

[inland mesa]

I wish extra AP gave you gold D:

[exotic spoke]

Jokes on you

I hit 48 and stopped doing WQ and shit like that for AP. Just getting it from raids, M+ now

[sick sentinel]

Same

But I still hit 50 lmao

[exotic spoke]

I’m going to soon :(. I’m like 60% through the level. So if not this week then next

[inland mesa]

yeah I did that a while ago, and I hit 50 2-3 weeks ago I think

so it'd be nice if it just gave some gold for things I couldn't avoid

now to stack 3 emissary chests of each XD

[sick sentinel]

I still do wqs on alts tho

[exotic spoke]

I’ll probably do the WQ for gear at 400 Ilvl and hope for god tier titanforging

[sick sentinel]

Dh is 47 and mage is 46

[inland mesa]

my monk is almost 49, guess it's time to level DK or the druid for the new meta XD

[exotic spoke]

Yeah I need to work on that now too. Guess I should get back on the WQ grind

[sick sentinel]

Doing a wq sweep is relaxing

Put on a podcast

Or youtube

On the other screen

[modern brook]

why not a youcast

[lusty grotto]

fantastic

[mortal brook]

F

[lusty grotto]

how many fucking times

[modern brook]

welcome back old friends

[inland mesa]

just what you always wanted, right?

[lusty grotto]

am i gonna get this shit ass trinket this season

[exotic spoke]

Not enough time. Get home, have 30 minutes before raid... m+ after raid on tuesdays / thursdays. Do offnight shit other days or Civ or whatever

[inland mesa]

maybe if you started using it, they'd stop giving it to you 😛

[lusty grotto]

never

[lucid bough]

this and th KR trinket are the reasons i put fury spec when i loot the chest

[lusty grotto]

i was fury spec, but i swapped to prot because i would like a better 1 hander

oh well more expulsom for the bank

[inland mesa]

I need a good 415 ring, or shit has to WF to 420 to be an upgrade I believe >.>

[lusty grotto]

also a fucking UR key great

GREAT

[inland mesa]

I keep getting king rasta ring from raid and they keep giving it to dps so I'm still wearing a 400 D:

[exotic spoke]

I’d take a UR key

[lusty grotto]

tyr grievous UR?

err

tyr grievous

[inland mesa]

is this even a good week for keys?

[exotic spoke]

Yeah I’d take it

[lusty grotto]

its an aids week

[modern brook]

if ur healer is nims brother at least

eyyyy

shots

🔫

[exotic spoke]

Gimme UR 20 when I open my chest and I’ll be happy

Ducking safeguarding the dps on tantrum....

[inland mesa]

when's next push week, I gotta finish the all 20s achieve that doesn't exist except for in my head

[lusty grotto]

def not doing siege or tos this week and UR is gonna hella fucking tough on that 2nd boss

[exotic spoke]

Every week is a push week if you’re ballsy enough

[warm plinth]

Raging/Necro is in a month

[inland mesa]

we timed a 20 TD last night pretty easy, but the 21 WM kicked our ass, 21 fort captains are no joke

[lusty grotto]

cragmaw tantrum with grievous... yikes

YIKERS

[inland mesa]

like 4 mil health and hit like a truck

[lusty grotto]

you can take it riki

it could be worse, i coud have been given a ToS

grievous + tyrannical galvazzt LMAO

that shit aint happening

[exotic spoke]

I’ll do it. Gotta keep pushing. Missed a 21 AD yesterday by 18 minutes (not close) and that caused me to not get 2200 by 3 points lol

[inland mesa]

That boss pisses me off, it annoys me how he randomly resets, one pull he just won't reset no matter what, another he resets like 5 times on necroitc weeks

[modern brook]

:^(

[lusty grotto]

also its bolstering week woo

[warm plinth]

Stewart can handle bolstering ezpz

[lusty grotto]

yeah bolstering is usually np

[modern brook]

its just slow

[inland mesa]

pull the first room in shrine, you'll be aite 😉

[lusty grotto]

unless if you have retards that can't get big dudes down and kill shit at the same time

[warm plinth]

Make sure you save the templar for last

for extra lulz

[modern brook]

Dude

on the real u ready?

KEy stone starts

[inland mesa]

we did that and ran out

lol

[warm plinth]

Them Arcatraz strats

[modern brook]

at 2s healer gives rejuv and lifeblossom

everyone leaves

tank kills the room

leaves dungeon

ezpz reset of bolster stacks

[lusty grotto]

i legit wanna see people doing galvazzt though

if you guys see a stream let me know

cause i have pugged galvazzt with grievous ONLY

and that healer was sweating bricks

i could tell

[warm plinth]

Actual bricks were falling on the ground?

[lusty grotto]

but tyrannical + grievous yikers man

yeah

actual sweat bricks

[warm plinth]

That actually seems really gross if you think about it. Visualize an actual brick of sweat.

[exotic spoke]

That sounds painful

[warm plinth]

Just pores opening into huge squares to spit them out

🤢

[modern brook]

u got pores thicker htan oatmeal

[warm plinth]

That's what my mama always told me

[exotic spoke]

Ugh. I saw a video of like blackheads being removed once... fuckingn disgusting and this is reminding me of it

[warm plinth]

Dude I love those videos

I'm one of those freaks

[exotic spoke]

It’s disgusting but interesting

[warm plinth]

It's gross but you can't look away

[exotic spoke]

Like./. How do you let it get that bad?

[warm plinth]

Like WHAT, THAT WAS IN THERE?

Yeah I've thought that too; like oh you waited for it to be the size of a fucking grapefruit before you did something about it

[vocal skiff]

motherlode is disgusting in bolstering weeks

I usually rule out ML and Siege on bolstering

And ToS for the same reasons as nim

[exotic spoke]

And like... how did that all fit in there?

[warm plinth]

lolol

[lusty grotto]

motherload is a kill the jockey week

[celest gate]

Freehold could be interesting this week

[lusty grotto]

shouldn't be too hard imo

but for real if any of you are doing 17+ ToS, stream it and ping me cause i wanna watch that

[exotic spoke]

How late are you up nim?

[lusty grotto]

basically any boss that does some random party damage will be super fucking ridiculous this week with grievous

uhhh

[ornate wagon]

Kings rest 3rd boss

[lusty grotto]

first boss on tyrannical weeks is hard enough

[exotic spoke]

Like I do keys from 1145ish est until 2 ish Tuesday’s and Thursday’s. Too late?

[lusty grotto]

hard for pugs at least

[warm plinth]

Can always watch VoDs

[lusty grotto]

eh just ping me

[exotic spoke]

If we get one I’ll ping you

[warm plinth]

I ❤ skyhold vods

So if those happen, I need to know

[exotic spoke]

Any other dungeons this week so you can mock our misery?

[lusty grotto]

just ToS and Siege

the rest might be dicey but manageable

[warm plinth]

You can see things like Late's party wiping to explosives in a funny way

[celest gate]

Is converting to mp4 easy from FLV?

[exotic spoke]

Fuck siege. Not doing that. 2 of our 3 20 keys so far have been siege. We need to push io elsewhere

[lusty grotto]

lmao

[exotic spoke]

Not UR?

[lusty grotto]

when i think about it

UR isn't that bad except for tantrums

[exotic spoke]

Pretty much

[lusty grotto]

the rest you pretty much have to do mechanics perfectly

[exotic spoke]

I’ll have one dps use a cooldown and I’ll safeguard the other (fuck the DH he’ll be fine) and then I’ll swap it the next

[lusty grotto]

i cant remember how many tantrums you get in tyrannical

2?

if dps is decent

3ish?

[exotic spoke]

Probably 3 at a 20 for us?

[lusty grotto]

so depending on the healer

[exotic spoke]

If we get one and stream it it will be from a Druid POV

[lusty grotto]

actually

[exotic spoke]

Our healer. I have a potatoe

[warm plinth]

Healer PoV 🤢

[lusty grotto]

it might be a great week for boomies

[celest gate]

Couldn't last boss be hard?

[warm plinth]

Nah jk, healer is fine

[sick sentinel]

What's the play on Soulbound goliath once your first round of 3x SB LS into 3xSB runs out?

[lusty grotto]

boomies with resto spec ❤

[exotic spoke]

He’ll be a kitty for a good amount

[warm plinth]

@sick sentinel Ideally still have SB up as much as possible but prioritize Crush obviously.

[sick sentinel]

prioritize what

[warm plinth]

Crush, the big boi hit he does

[exotic spoke]

Blocking the crush

[warm plinth]

It's blockable

[sick sentinel]

but what if you get deleted from autoattacks

[exotic spoke]

You can clear or you can use shield wall to fill gaps

You needed to clear then. You shouldn’t be getting deleted by auto attacks

[warm plinth]

I mean, you should still have SB up, but Crush is what's gonna -shot you

1-shot*

[exotic spoke]

What level key tank?

[warm plinth]

You basically need to learn for yourself how many stacks you can handle

And try to drop stacks once at the halfway point ish,

[dense flame]

this week

[warm plinth]

But we typically don't have to drop more than once

If that

[dense flame]

Start deleting healer friends

[celest gate]

You can ask for externals on gaps too

[sick sentinel]

@exotic spoke 20+ and higher

[exotic spoke]

We found leaping to a far fire and then intervening back to party helps

The healer doesn’t have to dodge the spirits much

[lusty grotto]

oof fire with grievous tyrannical

[celest gate]

Tranquility

[lusty grotto]

its tyrannical week

1 tranq will not be enough

[warm plinth]

Just drop more often if it's too much. Don't listen to Nim, only 1.7k 😏

[exotic spoke]

Smaller clears maybe?

[lusty grotto]

also yes he will get deleted from autos

with high stacks

[exotic spoke]

Fair - wasn’t thinking he was asking about 20s

[celest gate]

30/30 40/40

[lusty grotto]

but yeah he should cover with wall/ironbark

[celest gate]

Imo

For clears

[lusty grotto]

40ish stacks still hurts a shitton with grievous

[inland mesa]

I didn't clear on a 21 last night, felt beefy. But tyran isn't fun. Last tyran 21 I ran the fire despawned 5 times as the boss got to it and didn't count it >.> died at 50 stacks

[lusty grotto]

let me just say

this week is not a "healer week"

its a "gods among men" week

[inland mesa]

that's bursting quaking tyran

XD

[lusty grotto]

shit i just might not pug this week at all

[warm plinth]

Nim, don't PUG

You'll ragequit again

[inland mesa]

this is a key with viewers and sales week

lol

[celest gate]

Yeah, cant say I've done that boss with grieve

[lusty grotto]

i mean occasionally you get some surprisingly great players

but this week i dont know

[celest gate]

@chewtoy stream link so u can carry me

[warm plinth]

I'm a surprisingly mediocre player

✊

[sick sentinel]

also

[celest gate]

I feel like anything that has sustain is best to play

[sick sentinel]

once you drop stacks you're back at sq1

with last stand not yet being up

[celest gate]

Like dh leeches

[sick sentinel]

so you just compliment with external/shieldwall?

[lusty grotto]

yeah tank

so like

sbx3 LS sb3 wall sbx3 external then redo it

[exotic spoke]

Last stand should be up for most of them if clearing that often I’d imagine it’s something like 3 Sb, ls, 3 Sb, shield wall, 3 Sb, clear 3 Sb, ls, 3 Sb, external, 3 Sb, clear

[lusty grotto]

err SBx3 LS SBx3 Wall (or external)

[celest gate]

Not including demo 😡

[lusty grotto]

demo should be up at all times

[exotic spoke]

Demo is a given

[lusty grotto]

if possible anyway

you need both the dr and the damage on it

cant fuck around with not having a +dmg debuff on it

[celest gate]

I like going for the victory rush from the stun

[exotic spoke]

Rallying cry for first clear imo.

with tranq? Personals for second or vice versus

[lusty grotto]

hmm

yeah i'd say thats the pair

make sure everyone gets a healthstone too from garrison this week

[exotic spoke]

Every week *

[lusty grotto]

true

[sand egret]

i ain't no lock

[exotic spoke]

Fish feasts too

[sand egret]

i'm a Warrior of Rage

[lusty grotto]

oh yeah

friendly reminder

that darkmoon faire is up

so get those fish feasts

[exotic spoke]

Go fish. You’ll need it this week

[sand egret]

for the first time in BFA, I sold something on the AH

i'm a richimon now

[lusty grotto]

lmao

[exotic spoke]

Lol

[sand egret]

I double my net worth

[exotic spoke]

If you don’t have fish feasts find a mage to be your friend and get food from them before zoning in

[warm plinth]

Idk, that one guy was a Warrior of Light and he seemed like he had more fun.

[sand egret]

more like BOREior of Light

[warm plinth]

WOAH

I saw a monk 👀

[exotic spoke]

Obviously you were in a raid

[warm plinth]

I was talking about Avalith; he started typing. I think you scared him away though.

[honest frigate]

Don’t underestimate bastion of might on soul Goliath. You can take up to 10 stacks with just bastion/demo rolling at beginning of encounter to save your SB’s and just dumping rage into IP and having your healer heal you a bit

You can hold longer that way at beginning when everyone’s cds are up/lust is

[lusty grotto]

that's true

with BoM you will reach what? 70% passive block?

[warm plinth]

Yeah, that's a good point

gch stands for good comment haver

[honest frigate]

Lol I should probably@change my nickname it’s from an old game

[warm plinth]

lol

[exotic spoke]

Lol

Between avatar and ip you should be good on down time then o imagine?

[honest frigate]

Nvm can’t change nickname in@this discord 😞

[warm plinth]

Yeah you would have to change your username

[honest frigate]

Yeah only at the beginning of the encounter when he doesn’t hit hard

On 22 and below WC you only need to clear boss twice

With warrior mitigation

23/24 you need 3 clears. Idk about 25

If you have meticulous scheming/OP/gizmo and get lucky with procs you can SBx4 which is pretty nice

He also doesn’t melee when he’s casting soul thorns so if you play it risky you can hold for the halfsecond-3/4’s of a second on SB and hit it near end of the cast to really min-max

[lusty grotto]

yup

[old zephyr]

But would it change the amount of attacks blocked ? I don't think so

[small wedge]

how does everyone like callous reprisal

it seems very strong

[honest canopy]

Heya

CR owns

[small wedge]

ive been doing alot of bastion of might and deafen crash mainly for the dps though

the ignore pain one seems mediocre though

[honest canopy]

Bom owns

Blood sport is solid

I like bloodsport

[small wedge]

would bom be better the n CR?

[honest canopy]

Yes

[strong forum]

I hate CR

[small wedge]

really?

i use it revenge alot in keys

[strong forum]

Yea it's the trait I value the least of all

[small wedge]

i already have bom on the chest though too

[strong forum]

I would take non class specific over CR any day of the week

[small wedge]

so i only get the extra master hwhich is HUGE but not the Ignore pain right?

[strong forum]

1x IP

No matter how many traits

BoM is huge dps increase

And crit block ofc

[small wedge]

yeah and the master is op

for the blcok

so i have 2 bom one tradewins then triple D crash

[strong forum]

I also hate stacking DC, but that's apparently just me

[small wedge]

tradewins has been up or me A ton i was gonna pick up the UUnat trink as well since it seems pretty strong to combo with the prism for m+

i love it im still learning prot and pull 20-25k overall on keys

[strong forum]

So you're playing double defensive trinket

[small wedge]

did a 15 UR and came out like 24.5k

yes

i was thinking of doing that

[strong forum]

Not really needed tbh

[small wedge]

rn im on engine and prism

[strong forum]

That's solid

[small wedge]

i run prism and idol on dk and go full haste crit with my build and dont need heals until like 15keys

[strong forum]

Well that's dk

[small wedge]

ik but i wasnt sure where war landed defensivly

is prism or idol better for def? i assumed prism

[strong forum]

You don't need any defensive

Prism is good, so is idol

[small wedge]

is there a better one to run? just picked up a 415 ang

fang

[strong forum]

It's down to personal preference in the end, prism is overall 5-10% DR

And idol can come in as clutch heal

So 🤷

[small wedge]

i prefer prism the idol is nice but it feels weak off dk now lol

[strong forum]

It loses ton of value if you can't use it

Prism is always useful

[small wedge]

yeah thats the issue i felt i went like 5 mins without idol

[strong forum]

Yup

[small wedge]

and then used it as a offensive and then when you need it

o well

lol

its a great o shit b utton

but its not that great with priest wings its nice too

[strong forum]

Oof

[small wedge]

on my dk i had one on 7 targets with vamp blood and wings heal for 405 k lmfao

[strong forum]

Just go and play around, see what you like more. There's no best setup

[small wedge]

i wasnt sure thats how dk is alot say Ilvl over all but i prefer a few builds

[strong forum]

On 15s it doesn't even matter whatsoever

[small wedge]

whats your thoughts on IF

[strong forum]

It's solid

[small wedge]

i havent used it yet but its on my BOM tier or tradewings

[strong forum]

Yes use that

Use IF over tradewinds

[small wedge]

over trade?

ah ok

my shoulders suck first tier is DC or bom

[strong forum]

Our class traits are among the strongest in the game

Typically all of them are better than non class specific

Go with BoM

[small wedge]

yeah sim says bom is a MASSIVE damage boost

and its def too

[strong forum]

BoM > everything

[small wedge]

i thought so

[strong forum]

Unless you would have to drop all your DC

[small wedge]

i get 1800 mast with my avatar lmfao

[ebon hound]

Treacherous is also really strong

[strong forum]

Yea TC is also really good

[small wedge]

so DC at least one then bom is best

[strong forum]

Yes

[ebon hound]

Just shouting out a generic trait

[small wedge]

thought so lol

welp triple bom double DC and one if now

[strong forum]

Works

[small wedge]

double moment of glory which is meh

[ebon hound]

I love moment of Glory

[strong forum]

If you get into the bread and butter of prot you'll know when some traits are better than class specific but that's nothing to worry aboutv

[ebon hound]

Everyone suddenly not in danger anymore

[small wedge]

yeah i figured the shiled one was nice but i havent messed with shield tanking since like lk

always been brew blood veng but picked up prot for the m+

[minor vapor]

Do yall think 3 deafening crash traits is overkill?

I also have 3 BoM's also.

[sand egret]

considering we got people in here who've sold their kidneys for an extra 2% of dps....overkill wouldn't really be the word I'd use 😃

after your first DC, it provides you no additional defensive value. To some, that in itself is overkill. Depends on what you wanna do. If you're like most warriors rolling in here in 8.1.5, you here for the 👢 🍵 👏 , so to that end, it's the move to get the most out of each 👏

[lusty grotto]

i personally only go 3 DC below a certain key level

[sand egret]

I'm of the mindset that I don't pick traits for pure dps purposes, but prefer to get more overall value

[lusty grotto]

i'd rather survive and keep pulls big from the added survivability from those 2 traits

on higher keys

but lets say i wanna carry someone through a 10, i reroll 3 DC

[sand egret]

"i personally don't go 3 DC below a certain key level" - shouldn't that say, "I personally only go 3 DC when below a certain key level"?

[lusty grotto]

or at least anything sub 15

yeah that's what i meant

[sand egret]

no wonder Stewart doesn't let you out much....

[lusty grotto]

there, i fixed it blade

[sand egret]

👏

[lusty grotto]

🐟

[sand egret]

🐻

[lusty grotto]

goddamn it

🗞

[sand egret]

🏃

[ebon hound]

Preach it, Bladesong

[vocal skiff]

So, I was just in an AD+15, where the mage and keyholder said "brb" while we were near the augur and honor guard pack near priestess

we kept pulling and dude didn't come back

[lusty grotto]

lmao

[vocal skiff]

He healed the priestess

And then we went to yazma

We killed it with 1:20 still left and had to pick a few of the mobs still, 97%, I forgot to pick confessor

Just as we are about to finish he returns and said he had a major stomach upset

Literally shit himself

[lusty grotto]

rofl

[vocal skiff]

DH and resto druid were pissed

When we completed it, mage got the Keystone Master

[exotic spoke]

Haha

[lusty grotto]

hahaha

that's even better than the time i had a ret pally afk cause "his puppy got stuck on a vent"

on a shrine

still timed it but shit

literally shitting yourself lmao

[analog arch]

Is it just me or is warrior tanks kinda lousy on explosives on high keys, kinda having a problem with surviving and taking explosives when they are a bit out of the way, mechanics from mobs etc. and i can rly only rely on shield slam for taking the explosives, devestate etc needs 2-3 hits before killing it?

[sand egret]

warrior + explosive is like a buff

you can very much chain VR's together for a 20% heal every GCD

[vocal skiff]

Shield slam first, victory rush next, victory rush next, etc

[analog arch]

true you get victory rush, but that also only does about the same damage as devestate i feel

[vocal skiff]

But I can sympathize, since it's annoying to target in large pulls

[sand egret]

it does more, my VR's one-shot the orbs

[thorny pumice]

I didnt have much of an issue last week with explosive. I just slowed down with pulls

[sand egret]

(dev does as well, but you need to let the DW tick out :D)

[zinc spoke]

there's no way to macro devastate and VR together is there

[random cedar]

Whats BiS for azerite pieces and traits?

[sand egret]

check the guide

in #268491842637660160

no @zinc spoke , not in any useful way

I guess you could queue it to prioritize VR over Dev....

[zinc spoke]

thanks, I thought so, just trying to avoid mapping another key bind

[sand egret]

so maybe to that end, yeah try that out

could also just map a modifier macro to it (Saves the slot on your bars)

[analog arch]

well this was a KR run +18 ended up with 135 k on explosives, and that's kinda low, but i just coudn't get to the explosives, leading the green blobs the right way, staying away from berserkers not to get double or tripple debuff, i mean people are complaining that i didn't do enough that run, but still i feel that i coudn't have done much. i dunno maybe im just bad at dealing with it

[zinc spoke]

modifier macro? I use ` through 6 with shift and command and a few other random keys

[thorny pumice]

I dont think that's entirely on you, Entresiter. Not sure what your group comp was but when I did KR this last week I just tried to have our hunter handle explosives at a distance so we didnt pull more and what not. Not sure if that room was your only concern in that dungeon tho

[analog arch]

well that room and the bleed debuff hurts to much to risk getting another stack most of the time

[exotic spoke]

Depends on comp, but prot is good for handling explosives usually

[thorny pumice]

Yeah, I always got ours in melee but wasn't chasing them around

[analog arch]

it was a +15 run not a + 18

[sick sentinel]

KR is generally more harder on fort then tyrn

[analog arch]

my victory rush is hitting for 2kOo

[sick sentinel]

On top of that add to teeming/bombs, ur having urself and dps even if a little dps something else

[exotic spoke]

Explosives shouldn’t be on a single person to handle anyway

Even a spriest can handle then if they are fast

[sick sentinel]

It shouldn't but thats still damage/focus being taking away from boss/adds

An ele shaman was good to have last week

Since CL hits then

[exotic spoke]

On a single boss sure, a tank can handle them.
On things like ToS or UR final bosses it’s a team effort. Same on trash packs

[analog arch]

but still victory rush can't handle the explosives, yeah when it's a single mob like a boss sure, then the tank can take all the explosives with no issue

[sick sentinel]

In the end, bombs are a pain in the ass

[exotic spoke]

Shield slam and then VR / devastate can usually do it (maybe two of those if necessary)

[sick sentinel]

Most times ud be using SS/Deva during add pulls on bombs

[outer dew]

3x BFI memes for orb week

Just like in season 1 for me

[sick sentinel]

Fuck the meme, it died in 8.0

The dream is t21

Fuck BoM

[analog arch]

much better in legion when you used devestator

[sick sentinel]

A lot of things were better with legion deva

[exotic spoke]

So far keys this week are starting with WM 20, ToS 20, and three TBD. It’s going to be a fun week

[analog arch]

still bolstering tho:\

[sick sentinel]

Manageable

[exotic spoke]

We timed our first 20 last night. And fucked the 21 AD

[sick sentinel]

Since it's bolster u shouldn't be pulling more than 4, maybe 5 at most

Slows pulls but still

[exotic spoke]

Yup, just insta chain pull

Dead and go.. dead and go... rinse and repeat

[sick sentinel]

At least this week is a don't do siege week

[exotic spoke]

Truth

[thorny pumice]

I need siege 🙃 ugh

[exotic spoke]

Siege needs to be reworked or removed from the pool imo

[sick sentinel]

Fucking good luck

[exotic spoke]

It’s so cancerous on high keys

[neon tangle]

But bolstered spotter

[sick sentinel]

The same reason why it's bad

[thorny pumice]

I tried like all weekend when my wife as at work to try and find at least a 15 and nada

[exotic spoke]

The fact you have to do that to give you a chance is aids and also what POYO said

[sick sentinel]

And let's be honest ur not doing the spotter trick unless ur in premade

Cause fuck trusting a pug

[broken cobalt]

It was +15 KR.. not 18.. (with resto dudu and healing bm pet(for added tank healing)) and Entresiter did 135k on explosives.. 4th place, far behind both ranged and melee dps, and 65k more than resto dudu.. After the run, Entresiter was very pleased with how the explosived had gone, and all I pointed out was that he as a prot warrior could do a bit more on explosives.. He then said that prot warriors are very bad at handling explosives.. and by far the worst tanking class to handle it. And that there were no room for improvement on the 135k dmg he did overall on them.

[exotic spoke]

Mybhighest siege completed on time is a 15 lol. Don’t get many high keys of that. We fucked a 20 though

KR is only a 15 on time too. I hate that place

@broken cobalt yeah and? What’s your point throwing him under the bus like that? It’s kind of a dick move imo

[sick sentinel]

In the MDI nobody took a Siege

And I think KR

[exotic spoke]

siege is banned from MDI is it not?

[sick sentinel]

Because NOBODY wants to do it

[exotic spoke]

And faction imbalances

[thorny pumice]

Neither are real fun tbh

[analog arch]

i said the dps had done a good done on explosive, not myself tho:) interresting for you to join in on the discussion

good job*

[sick sentinel]

His job as a tank isn't explosives, it's favorable to us for a 20% healing but that's about it

[broken cobalt]

I'm not trying to throw anybody under the bus.. that was not my intention, I'm trying to understand if I'm wrong here when I claim that prot wars are actually good on explosives

[sick sentinel]

If ur concerned about him doing the least amount when have to account for some bombs being out of range

[analog swift]

Siege is the weirdest dungeon. At least the trash. Yellow yellow big boss yellow some red spotter. Yellow spotter. Canoneer spotter boss monkeys monkeys monkeys spotter holy fuck hard hitting trash with spotter boss boss

[umbral forge]

@orchid token you fool, you absolute baboon, you think I can stay away from this game for a full 24 hours?

[exotic spoke]

It’s a team effort and you came off really aggressively man. He already came in here and was talking.

Could it be that before he killed them the dps got them? Could it be they were at range and he didn’t get them?

Bottom line is it’s better not to be so aggressive in terms of casting blame when you go and ask questions. You come off as a dick - whether you want to or not.

I’m sure you’re a nice guy, I’m just saying

[broken cobalt]

Not my intention, we are discussing it in a midly manner on discord, both me and him.

Im just trying to understand if I'm in my wrong

[sand egret]

Prot is very good at explosives, however the affix at the whole is a tad contextual. There's prob room for improvement

[exotic spoke]

Then we’re all good. Prot is good at explosives. But that’s when they spawn near us.

[sand egret]

during your Avatar window, VR >Tclap > Repeat works wonders

[exotic spoke]

Shield slam can one shot them. Devastate / Vr can’t usually but we can still kill them in time

^^

[sand egret]

since the damage boost makes that VR put you into one shot range

they only have ~5k hp

[exotic spoke]

Yup, and a crit at any time will kill them

[sand egret]

bingo

[thorny pumice]

Some melee classes just get explosives hella quick too. My DH buddy sometimes feels lightyears ahead of me

[exotic spoke]

Yup

[sand egret]

that being said, it's EVERYONE's job to get on those (maybe less on the healer) so it's hard to really point the finger...especially at the one class that has yet another job...to ya know not fall over on the pull 😃

[umbral forge]

On my Hunter I tend to take them asap with viper shot

or target them when I multi shot

my pet is most of my damage and he stays on the adds so 🤷

[sand egret]

I ran with a BM last night who pumped realllly hard

[exotic spoke]

Hunters a good option. Honestly any class can do it.

[sand egret]

dat beast cleave yo

[exotic spoke]

Spriest I run with was getting the ranged ones

[umbral forge]

beast cleave doesn't hit explosive

[sand egret]

sure doesnt'

[umbral forge]

also MM is SHITTY with it like holy crap so bad

[sand egret]

but it does do like 50% of their overall

[sick sentinel]

BM pumps in m+

[umbral forge]

Yeah

it's really fun

[sand egret]

only hunter spec I can play is MM. Can't stand pet classes

then agian, it's a dps class so like...why even play that

[sick sentinel]

I used to like BM back in wrath when It had more then 5 abilities

[exotic spoke]

I played arms / prot then

[sick sentinel]

Since legion it feels like I'm playing Fury but range

[umbral forge]

BM right now is strangely complex.
Like it's not faceroll these days. I find it harder to play than Fury Warrior and Unholy Death Knight, at least.

it's very far off Fury

[exotic spoke]

Basically I was a seal...

ArP ArP ArP was all I wanted

[sick sentinel]

I find BM to be too sim to fury, it's not complex enough

I am the same motherfucker who plays feral which still use snapshoting like it's still wrath

[supple path]

Sometimes with melee DPS in my group I actually have to whine at them to get on the explosives slower

[sick sentinel]

Lol

Need that heal bro

Gonna die

[supple path]

like fu there was one explosive and it had been alive for 0.1s before you killed it you jerk DH

[umbral forge]

I like the focus management.
I like holding my vipers to save for a bestial wrath coming up and I like getting those 0.3 Frenzy refreshes.
I like the difficulty of Kill Command. That's not to say kill command is inherently difficult but not wasting a single one kind of is.

BM hunter is not punishing at all though, so you don't really notice if you do fuck up somehow.

[supple path]

More heals I get -> more DPS my healer does

[sick sentinel]

It be like that sometimes

[silent quest]

I've seen this question asked before, but havent really seen an answer. How do people use jes' howler? Macro it with something?

[sick sentinel]

U don't macro it

It doesn't align with anything

U use pretty much on cd

[exotic spoke]

^^

[sick sentinel]

Unless u want to save it for some damage spike

But that DR isnt going to be noticeable if ur using ur defense cds

[silent quest]

so assuming m+, just try to use it for the start of every few pulls?

[sick sentinel]

Yup

[silent quest]

hmm ok. i might macro it to demo shout then, and just have it proc every second one

[exotic spoke]

You mean like every 4th one?

Maybe even 5th

[sick sentinel]

With how quick demo comes off cd it might be the 20th

[silent quest]

actually yeah that wont work. math fail

[sick sentinel]

Especially if ur just spamm IP and non free revenge's/SB

Also don't try to scumbag the buff for urself, it won't do u any good since a lot of people tend to fail trying that

[exotic spoke]

Sharing is caring

[sick sentinel]

Also @umbral forge the problem isn't that it isn't complex, it's that for me BM suffers from the same issue as Fury that isn't complex enough for me. I want to watch like 15+ things to make the number go Up and be Big.

[oblique garnet]

There isnt a single glass that does that

[sand egret]

sounds like you want more plate-spinning

which I'd argue, isn't complexity 😃

[umbral forge]

I have decided that I want to die.

[lusty grotto]

imagine using windows key + shift + s

[umbral forge]

oh wow my dropbox thing stayed

https://i.imgur.com/UDyixZA.jpg
my ui is broken.

[lusty grotto]

good

i mean titan panel is still there

not broken for good

let it die jettom

let it die

[umbral forge]

Yeah I'll rebuild it.

Make it better

I've been wanting to for a while.

[sand egret]

imagine not using the default UI

😁

[vocal skiff]

Honestly, I wanted a cleaner UI

It feels like boss timers are always where they shouldn't

Then again, I play on a laptop with a 15" monitor lol

Feels bad

[neon tangle]

@vocal skiff get a bigger monitor yo

[exotic spoke]

I used to have a completely custom UI but then got fucking tired of updating / fixing it after every patch

[vocal skiff]

I can't, no space

[sand egret]

yeah, after 15 years of WoW, i've gone SUPER minimalist haha

[neon tangle]

Are you playing in a dorm room or something?

[sand egret]

mebbe?

I rocked a laptop hard in my college days =0

the monitor set-up was the move

[vocal skiff]

In my own room, at home, which is not large, and it has been modeled to have plenty of bookshelves

as I have a lot of books

So there isn't a lot of leeway

maybe I could field a 19" monitor

But it would be very bad still

One thing I don't understand though is how people play without the action bars

[sand egret]

should do the setup I run at work

WoW in a Rift headset

I used to run an actionbarless setup a bit back in the day

but the logic was, things I need to press would appear somewhere instead of it all being in front of you

[neon tangle]

@vocal skiff I think I'd die

or just remove books

[warm plinth]

I mean, no actiton bars is usually replaced by extensive WAs, which is actually fairly similar in my opinion

Just can't click on them

[sand egret]

comes down to how you like to process information

[vocal skiff]

Sad thing, sadbox, is that I used to play with a powerful computer with a 23" monitor

So I have that to reminisce

lol

[neon tangle]

@vocal skiff I play on a 27" 1440p at 100+fps

feels so bad to use a laptop now

[sand egret]

yeah it's tough to go back once you tasted all those sweet frames

[warm plinth]

I play on a 27" as well, only 1080p thoughg

Or no, it might be 1440. I don't remember now

[neon tangle]

@sand egret my life of must-haves keeps growing for monitors

[sick sentinel]

r5-1600 16gb 2666mhz ram, rtx 2070, 256 pcie nvme m.2 drive, 1tb spinning with a 4k 27inch and 1080p monitor is my set up.

[sand egret]

i can't go back to 1080

[neon tangle]

1440p, gsync, IPS, 144hz+

[sand egret]

that's like what I have

[warm plinth]

I can't remember if it's 1080 or 1440; probably 1080 as I bought my monitors like 7 years ago

[sick sentinel]

would like to get a 1440p 100+hz and sell the 1080 monitor

[warm plinth]

I don't have gsync either

But it's only a 60hz screen anywway so

[sand egret]

im jealous of that m.2 drive

[warm plinth]

anyway*

[sand egret]

adn fuck, that gpu. Damn Claw, that's a nice rig

[warm plinth]

I can't tell the difference between 60 and 120 or 30 frames and 60 frames tbh

[sick sentinel]

put a lot of time and buxx into it

[sand egret]

30-60 you prob can

60-120 is a genetic thing

[neon tangle]

@sick sentinel https://pcpartpicker.com/user/sadbox/saved/#view=FDgxGX

that's mine

[warm plinth]

Idk I played Dark Souls and DSR and saw zero difference beyond the better textures in remastered

[sand egret]

depends on the game

DS, doesn't really show

not like a FPS would, for instance

[warm plinth]

I need to find like a comparison video for something

I'm sure they exist

[sand egret]

the biggest example is if you own Destiny 2 on PC

[warm plinth]

I do, since Blizz gave it away for free 😂

[sand egret]

their cutscenes are at 30 fps

[warm plinth]

Haven't even touched it

[sand egret]

since they're made for console and locked

but the rest of the game isn't

so it's pretty apparent going from one to the other, esp in larger motion scenes. Sports games, racing games, fps's are where you tend to notice it more

[neon tangle]

@warm plinth high fps + gsync/freesync is definitely something that you get used to and then never want to not have

[sand egret]

or if you're like me, you've started at Frame Counters for so much of your life you can tell the difference between 55 and 60

but then you got other issues

[neon tangle]

but I can definitely tell the difference in 30, 60, 100+

[sand egret]

those are larger breakpoints and above 60 is actually your genetics at work

[neon tangle]

(ironically my work did a study on it, and I participated, was very easy to tell)

[sand egret]

average human can't see more than 60 fps anyway

[sick sentinel]

any luck on the box today?

i got those

[sand egret]

it feels better though, because you don't experience the corrections

grats mate (if that's an upgrade)

[neon tangle]

@sand egret Not really true, there's a reason that all the VR headsets are 75hz+

[sand egret]

Oh it's very true

and the reason you're talking about is the screen door effect

[sick sentinel]

410 haste mastery to those

[sand egret]

and it's 90 fps

[umbral forge]

I don't get the hate for titanpanel

[sand egret]

because of the dual lenses (I specialize in VR 😃 )

[sick sentinel]

qeue meme about eyes can only see at 24fps

[sand egret]

VR needs to go to 90 or it becomes barf city

[neon tangle]

maybe you work where I work blade

we make one of the headsets

[sand egret]

but there's also stuff like ASTW and ASSP

ooo nice! I won't ask which ones, but I'm pretty sure I've developed for it if its one of the Big 3

[warm plinth]

@neon tangle I'm actually having hella FPS issues in-game right now so I can't even think about things that would make a better gaming experience until I can figure out wtf is causing my problem

It's a WoW specific thing too which are always fun to figure out

[sand egret]

check for cpu chokes

[oblique garnet]

@warm plinth 1000+ weakauras and elvui can cause fps issues

[warm plinth]

My CPU is usually operating at like 25%. It's a new thing that started probably a month ago. I haven't changed any hardware in that time.

[oblique garnet]

most likely your directx not being on correct setting

[warm plinth]

It's still present even with all addons disabled; even putting my settings super low isn't changing it

[sand egret]

i'd look to update your GPU/directx

[warm plinth]

I tried all 3 directx settings too

And updated my GPU drivers

[sand egret]

and Dx?

[warm plinth]

No haven't updated that

[wooden radish]

@ionic fern hey. Nerfclap is using Siphoning. does that make it a must use weapon enchant? :kappa:

[undone sun]

😡

[warm plinth]

[undone sun]

got back to HoW 🗞

[wooden radish]

🗞

[wary lantern]

need help with ring again

?

[ionic fern]

Hello @wooden radish No.

[vapid shell]

already got 3 BoM ?

[wooden radish]

1. uninstall pawn. 2) i would sim 3) if you don't want to sim, use ilvl

[vapid shell]

Ye uninstall that idd

[wary lantern]

using pawn only for spriest anyway

[undone sun]

imo 405 and 410

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[exotic spoke]

Agree ^

[wary lantern]

but... i would loose leech 😦

[undone sun]

and?

leech has zero value

[wary lantern]

i like leech 😄 😄 😄

[warm plinth]

Is that a troll?

[wooden radish]

🗞 leech memes

[undone sun]

subjective

[vapid shell]

if u already have 2/3 bom traits i would go with socked one and versa /haste

[undone sun]

hmmm

[wary lantern]

healed for amazing 2.3mil with my leech 😄

[warm plinth]

I mean technically the 405 has more stats, so you can still use it if you want. For the socket though, not the leech.

[exotic spoke]

Did you sacrifice any Ilvl for that leech?

[wary lantern]

no

it was all ilvl upg

[exotic spoke]

Then that’s fine. Don’t give up Ilvl for leech.

[undone sun]

@warm plinth that was my reasoning as well 👍

[wary lantern]

went from 400 ilvl items to 410 with leech

[wooden radish]

well he has to follow step 1). uninstall pawn

[wary lantern]

someone once said to me tho that i shouldnt go for vers

[exotic spoke]

Why not?

[undone sun]

an idiot told you that

[sick sentinel]

what's wrong with pawn? i still use it personally.

[undone sun]

it's entirely unnecessary

[wooden radish]

because it tells you useless information

[wary lantern]

okay, so its fine changing mastery for vers then

[warm plinth]

Vers is actually better than mastery. Mastery sounds good to people because we go for BoM but that's only because it's an absolute fuckload of mastery at the exact time when we already have a damage increase.

[undone sun]

doesn't work for tanks, and if you're using it for damage it's just another step

[steel mauve]

pawn is a garbage addon and to use it efectively you need to literally resim every single time you upgrade a slot, which you would do any ways, so it more effort for 0 gain

[exotic spoke]

Vers helps us mitigate other damage that we otherwise wouldn’t mitigate as much

[wooden radish]

it doesn't work for any class Thyme. the second you get new gear, you have to sim anyway which changes your weights.

pawn is totally invalid

[wary lantern]

okay, thanks guys :_)

[undone sun]

ofc, just specifically worse for tanks

🙃

[wooden radish]

🙃

[exotic spoke]

@wooden radish several people I know do that

[warm plinth]

It does work technically; it's just useless

[lusty grotto]

yeah it is useless when raidbots literally has a top gear shit

[sick sentinel]

... i'll consider removing pawn later today, no promises lul

[undone sun]

verse keeps getting better the more you have of it too

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[warm plinth]

Since the information has no value; raidbots gives you the same information but with one less step as Thyme said

[sick sentinel]

don't know if this is considered spoilers or not but engineers are getting wormhole zandy and kul tiras in 8.2 thank god

[oblique garnet]

Engineering is worthless change my mind

[wooden radish]

professions are worthless change my mind

[oblique garnet]

Cooking is the only profession that matters

[exotic spoke]

I actually dislike one of the new gizmos. Going to raise price on BMAH shit. Fuck my life

[rose moat]

Anyone got a picture with all the warr traits from the engi helm, cant fucking find one :S

[oblique garnet]

@rose moat

[sick sentinel]

i mostly use engineer out of convenience repair anywhere portals, brez etc

[exotic spoke]

@oblique garnet extra person with brez? I mean it’s a chance but still

[sick sentinel]

that uber spanner thing is total garbage though, 100% useless, can only use it outside and doesn't even seem to do anything.

[exotic spoke]

Also, blacksmithing for keys if you don’t have a rogue in TD

[oblique garnet]

engi br is quaranteed success

it will not fail

it can backfire but it will not fail

[exotic spoke]

Oh, fair, I thought it used to be

[oblique garnet]

thats the toy

thingy

[exotic spoke]

So yeah, extra brez and blacksmithing for keys

[sick sentinel]

it's a total pain in the ass to use the brez though because you have to be in melee ranged and its a cast timer for 4 seconds, so you are taking full dmg while rezzing

[exotic spoke]

It’s better than not having it

And I didn’t mean us using it. Just in general

[umbral forge]

https://i.imgur.com/sdjcCk8.jpg
There is my ui better

[exotic spoke]

I still see an issue

[umbral forge]

what

[undone sun]

bottom black bar

[exotic spoke]

Nightborne

[umbral forge]

IM BLOOD EFL

ELF

[exotic spoke]

Bloodelf*

Still a problem

Goblin or gtfo

[undone sun]

dansgame

[exotic spoke]

More haste

[undone sun]

i was a goblin in early WoD, 2nd biggest mistake

[exotic spoke]

First was wod second was stopping being a goblin

[undone sun]

first was having a non-druid as tauren

[exotic spoke]

I stand by my answer

I don’t understand why people don’t like them

More haste and more mobility

[sick sentinel]

hey they literally called it

[exotic spoke]

Rofl

[sick sentinel]

@umbral forge 👋

[umbral forge]

hi kaege

And yeah

[exotic spoke]

@undone sun why did you hate being goblin

[sick sentinel]

LMAO

yeah I was busy soloing last boss of freehold 19

[undone sun]

the rocket jump was good, i used it quite a bit on the train boss in BRF, just aesthetically they're trash

[sick sentinel]

i do the same thing, "i swear i'm quitting if i don't get this damn trinket" "dammit it didn't drop 😦 gotta come back to try again next week"

[oblique garnet]

I cant quit

Until i get the freehold mount

[sick sentinel]

goblin rogue is bis btw

[oblique garnet]

When it finally drops im free

[exotic spoke]

@undone sun just use that Addon to change your character model... oh wait.... RIP

[undone sun]

i did at the time

tmorph and lucidmorph

[past fable]

!wa

[exotic spoke]

Eh, I don’t mind it.

Hate the male model though

[undone sun]

male is definitely worse

[exotic spoke]

Even if I didn’t like it, I would have used it when I was horde during end of cata / early mop

Mobility was that important for flag carrying RBGs

[coral jasper]

Engineering helm. ... trait on the inner ring. I'm thinkin' to take Relational Normalization Gizmo trait but also torn between Syn / R.i.P

[fiery jackal]

you guys is the 415 alchemist stone any good on prot?

[warm plinth]

It's good but other things are better

[coral jasper]

main verse and not bad uptime but i hear eng helm is best

[fiery jackal]

i have a 385 Bargain and a 400 diamond

[warm plinth]

Pretty sure most people use RNG Travis

That's all you have? Alc stone, bargain and diamond?

[fiery jackal]

yes

[coral jasper]

kk thx ghash

[warm plinth]

Alc stone and diamond

Bargain is bad

[fiery jackal]

okay

thank you

[wary lantern]

lol the ring i sent, i realised that i have another one at 405 but crit/haste not vers/haste 😄 😄 😄

[fathom forge]

so what is a good spot to sit at haste for prot

• into the fray

[exotic spoke]

All of it

As long as you don’t sacrifice Ilvl for it. PrioritIze the piece with more haste

[fathom forge]

so you want much as you can poss get?

[exotic spoke]

Without sacrificing Ilvl on your gear

[fathom forge]

okay thank you

[sick sentinel]

guildie with the officer note "do not do mplus with this guy" asked me to tank a key for his 384 rogue for weekly

I invited him to a group and we pugged into a +11

easiest 50k of my life lmao

[warm plinth]

You had a guildie pay you for a carry?

[sick sentinel]

I didn't ask for it

[sand egret]

lol fucking savage

[sick sentinel]

I did it last week for free

[sand egret]

jesus the hell kinda guild you in where guidlies gotta hit you on the sly with backdoor carries

[sick sentinel]

but this week it was a +11 and I also traded him the 400 ring I got

[sand egret]

crazy EU's

[sick sentinel]

it's not that

the guy is just weird lmao

[exotic spoke]

50k is cheap for that

I did it for the cost of a token back when I was selling carries

It was like 200-240k on NA in legion

Now people still do it for cost of a token but they are down to about 110k

[dense flame]

So for this week in WCM tree boss. Any suggestions for high key to assist healer with grevious with minimal resets?

If already discussed, apologies.

[sick sentinel]

I know it's cheap

but like

[exotic spoke]

Start with avatar, assuming three BoM, while he’s at low stacks - to try and delay shield block.

Then 3 sb, last stand, 3 Sb, shield wall, 3 Sb, last stand, 3 Sb, external (or reset), if not resetting use 3sb, LS, 3 Sb, probably should reset by now

[sick sentinel]

who cares

[exotic spoke]

Good is gold

If you don’t reset that time, you probably have LS / SW up again, shield wall, 3 Sb, ls, 3 Sb, and then you have to reset

[sick sentinel]

I reset when it's SW time

🤷

[dense flame]

Thanks @exotic spoke

[exotic spoke]

I leap away, go to a far fire - more time to reset my cooldowns / makes it easier for healer to dodge spirits

[dense flame]

Yeah that sounds legit. I’ve always struggled with that boss. Grevious just adds to the struggle

[exotic spoke]

Far being relative

[dense flame]

Boss doesn’t reset at all right? Like if I leap outside his circle?

[warm plinth]

He does afaik. Not sure what actually causes the rest, but I've had party members reset him by accident before

the reset*

Guessing it has something to do with the arena but not sure if just out of the circle is far enough

[exotic spoke]

I go to right outside the circle

Just outside

[dense flame]

Feels like a silly question lol. Thanks guys🥰

[sick sentinel]

He resets if he gets to far into edge of the wall

Similar to how the first boss in TD can reset right where he spawns

But aside from that, I don't know wheter he reset if u go past the fountain

[exotic spoke]

@lusty grotto so far its shrine, ur, tos, WM, + whatever I get. Interested in watching a cluster fuck of one of those possibly later tonight

[sand egret]

Tyr + ToS is never a fun time

not looking forward to that one

[coral jasper]

y doens't absorb - o - tron go into the HPS category... thats annoying

[sand egret]

at least it aint teeming. those two stealthy bois up front fuckin sucked this week

I believe because it's technically another unit

[coral jasper]

Yeah I can track it with "FF" but ... does it add it up on logs?

If not eff taking that

[exotic spoke]

Yeah blade, and they are +20 keys. Nim just asked to watch if someone streamed certain keys. I think he said siege and shrine

I don’t think ToS is that bad though

[lusty grotto]

ToS will be hell on earth on Galvazzt

[exotic spoke]

We’ve timed 19s with a good amount of time to spare I believe. I’ll check

[lusty grotto]

only that boss

Grievous + Tyrannical on that boss is just absolutely fucking ridiculous

[exotic spoke]

I stand corrected - not on tyrannical. We missed it two weeks ago by 1 second

The 19 timed was fortified, bolstering, skittish

[wary lantern]

the feel when you wipe Sethralis cos 3 orbs spawned on the other side of last boss and no one realised 😄

[exotic spoke]

By a minute and 10 or so

[coral jasper]

Wont be bad with a rdruid that knows what he is doing and runs photo

[exotic spoke]

Oh we didn’t have an issue with that.

[lusty grotto]

ToS was easy as hell last week though

[coral jasper]

I run the typical M+ build and can get 22 -24% mast

[exotic spoke]

It wasn’t last week that we timed it

[coral jasper]

so nobody falls below 90% .. +++ get healthstones prior to key

[exotic spoke]

It was two weeks ago - we fucked it by 1 second on tyrannical raging, volcanic

Always Travis

So yeah, want to watch us try any of those twenty keys after we raid nim?

[lusty grotto]

just ping me

[exotic spoke]

Kk

We’ll have one more key, mine, but o won’t know for another 2 hours or so

[celest gate]

ablative shielding or heed my call?

[primal sable]

the one that does damage

Kappa

[sick sentinel]

415 lingering sporepods any good for trinket?

[neon tangle]

not really, depends on what else you have

[empty spire]

https://bloodmallet.com/index.html#warrior_protection

[sick sentinel]

bloodmallet is purely for dmg

405 diamond, 400 rezans, 415 alch trinket, and 415 sporepods

[exotic spoke]

Rip sporepods

[empty spire]

rezans is solid all around, diamond and alch trinket too

[sick sentinel]

sporepods is absolute garbage

@celest gate if you are confident on your ability to play the spec go for HMC

[exotic spoke]

Waste of a trinket

[sick sentinel]

if not then go abrative shielding

[neon tangle]

@sick sentinel You can sim it, but the 400 rezans prolly wins

[spice musk]

Got the Unaat trinket

[sick sentinel]

ohh and 400 vial of animated blood

[spice musk]

with socket

[exotic spoke]

Idol?

[spice musk]

Now i struggleYep with the life leech from other players what should i Use.

[oblique garnet]

eh

[exotic spoke]

What are your options and do you need survivability or dps

[sick sentinel]

that trinket

[spice musk]

Rezan 410 // Primsa400 // idol with Socket 400

[sick sentinel]

is good if you warr is your alt

[exotic spoke]

I’d use rezan and diamond

[spice musk]

by the healer i have defenetive souvival 😄

survival

[sick sentinel]

and your main is a pala or a druid

[exotic spoke]

I like idol, I use it personally as I’m not comfortable with switching to more dps at 20s yet. But slowly I’ll move away from diamond ornidol and add dps trinkets in

But I think overall rezans and diamond are better

Given your options

[spice musk]

marok said in his guide that idol is a monster as a trinket but i dont know which of the other one should i replace 😄

its nice proc with socket and movement speed btw

[empty spire]

rezans is strong both offensively and defensively

[exotic spoke]

Try rezans.

See if it works. If not use diamond.

The haste and 10 ilvls is nice

[umbral forge]

I think my warrior tank was broken but group went smooth

[sick sentinel]

lmao

did he even have bom?

[umbral forge]

he had 16% uptime on avatar

no BoM

[exotic spoke]

Honestly looks like the fury is too

[umbral forge]

he doesn't have DC

[exotic spoke]

No BoM and no dc?

[umbral forge]

he had BoM

[fathom forge]

lol is doing 19.6k good for prot warrior single target lol.

[exotic spoke]

How long is the fight?

[fathom forge]

3mins

looking at dbm and says 3mins and 27 seconds

[exotic spoke]

I think so? I dunno off hand

[fathom forge]

first boss off Mythic bod and 1h Sentinel's Blade

[exotic spoke]

Seems like a long pull

[fathom forge]

well i was the only one fighting it.

[exotic spoke]

Wait, how did that happen?

Oh, you’re saying the shield you’re using

I meant I dunno off the top of my head if that’s good

Like where it ranks.

I thought you said the first boss took 3 minutes 30 seconds

[fathom forge]

yeah shield i was using is Sunburst Crest off champ Mythic

lol no that took only like a min lol

[exotic spoke]

Yeah, I was confused.

[fathom forge]

yeah but i got 19.6k dps on 3rd boss in Tos +12

[exotic spoke]

There’s some AoE there

[fathom forge]

on 3rd boss? tos?

[exotic spoke]

Oh sorry, was thinking second

[spice musk]

oh and another question how much ilvl is the Loa Set Bonus worth?