just truly gave up
#protection
mortal brook
GTFO is literally just an air raid siren
sick sentinel
Seat gave me nightmares:<
modern brook
lol
@undone sun I'm going to roll a prot pally
I'm going to gear it without M+
to about ~405ish
then im going to afk in a +2 for ~3 hours
then im going to solo it
lusty grotto
I love days like this, that type of people always does the same thing lmao they come in, say marok's spreadsheet is wrong and the proceed to mention very specific cases which are avoidable, and when corrected they scramble to try to disapprove anything by looking that person up
modern brook
EZPZ 0.3 score
lusty grotto
Probably riding on some lepan train or something smh
modern brook
He stopped after he io stalked nim 🤷
inner moth
damn nim
modern brook
IDT BS is bad; for the record
inner moth
u got exposed it seems
chilly brook
@lusty grotto can't wait for all the rerolls to reroll again
modern brook
u dont even play griff >:^(
undone sun
👌
chilly brook
tf u mean
chilly brook
I literally played yesterday
mortal brook
oh man just scrolled up. what a ride
chilly brook
Only did it cuz some friends are playing and I got half my sub paid for
inner moth
bull dont do it, imagine how many 410 weekly chests that u disenchant ur gonna miss
modern brook
Like for me the big issue is that i dont have a consistent group - my guild and I's schedules have sorta separated a bit
chilly brook
ESO is still the game for me atm
modern brook
I've been in on starcraft lately
exotic spoke
I’m thinking of getting back into csgo and pushing ranks again
Haven’t played much since I came back right before legion
I’m probably complete shit now
exotic spoke
It was better when I made money off of it
modern brook
As is most tihngs
warm plinth
I bought the imperial edition for ESO after playing the beta. I have yet to log into it 😅
exotic spoke
You right bull. Made about 4K off of csgo skins.
Back to Ad.
Complete aids this week?
modern brook
its teeming fort though so like
sick sentinel
@lusty grotto
modern brook
All the hard part of the dungeon happens before vokall
sick sentinel
upgrade pepega
oblique garnet
the count is fucked
modern brook
if u can down him in a reasonable time the rest of the dungeon is cake
oblique garnet
you cant really
inner moth
@modern brook RASH B
modern brook
cant u just plan for 2 different routes?
and scout it by doing left first before rezan
like you can do the 5 pull + lust there cause lol needing it for rezan off tyr
Maybe im a baby though 🤷
lusty grotto
It's cause they randomly switch between runs
Like I pulled right side to gear my brother's rogue and it had a gigantic 6 pack
Err left side sorry
modern brook
ur brothers rogue sucks shit 🤷
exotic spoke
@sick sentinel is it literally “do this if they are there and do this if they aren’t?”
lusty grotto
Pretty sure some packs on the right change too
fading python
Idol of Indiscriminate Comsumption, do any of you reckon its good for M+ ? (sorta works like a free lay on hands)
floral sphinx
should we be using a str gem or just all haste gems?
warm plinth
All haste my good man
fading python
I also have the Mekka trinket and the Atal'dazar trink both ilvl 400
Use both of those instead?
floral sphinx
thanks!
exotic spoke
@modern brook fuck it. Take their life to heal yourself. They don’t need it
modern brook
🤷 I hate mekka trink personally
fading python
its a bit of a ramp-up
modern brook
If i wanted ramp up I'd play Afflock
lusty grotto
Wait up
floral sphinx
thanks
fading python
Also have Knot of Ancient Fury
lusty grotto
What happened @sick sentinel
modern brook
knot is god teir
fading python
crit trink
exotic spoke
Running 415 diamond and 410 idol for m+ usually
Running 415 diamond and 415 socketed howler for raid
sick sentinel
I made the route one a different pc
modern brook
howler more like Growler cause i i growl when it drops cause i hate it
lusty grotto
Ahh
fading python
Rezan's Gleaming + Knot or replace one of them with Idol of Indisc?
modern brook
rezan knot or rezan idol
knot is better if you dont want to think about your trinket use
modern brook
yeah cause ur only 1700 io :^)
modern brook
Idol is sick cause we pull a lot often
sub 5 man pulls are rare if we do our dungeons correctly
exotic spoke
With chain pulling / large pulls sometimes I need both (or all three if I still have a hearthstone
fading python
I wnated attempted to tank more than a +8... im ilvl 413, fq me
mortal brook
hearthstone important
fading python
haven't *
exotic spoke
Plus it heals for more than a pot
modern brook
at 413 you can be pushing 17s
sick sentinel
modern brook
13s should be comfortable
exotic spoke
Hearthstone - fucking auto correct
fading python
I just haven't put myself into the paths u need to take through each dungeon
lusty grotto
I never have a hearthstone.. I use the toys, I like that 1 extra bag space
exotic spoke
Fuck! HEALTHSTONE
modern brook
sub 10s are waaaay out numbered for you rn
floral sphinx
so i have 395 vial with a socket, 395 rezan, and 400 butcher's block...im think vail/ block would be good for m+...yea?
fading python
ye its was pretty ez
primal sable
lusty grotto
Rezan block
oblique garnet
kage i dont trust your scuffed routes
modern brook
😮
exotic spoke
Imo the biggest thing to get used to is pushing your comfort zone / limits and doing bigger pulls / chain pulls / reaping with other things etc
floral sphinx
lol
oblique garnet
I told you to believe in my freehold routes and you questioned me !!!
exotic spoke
What’s your freehold route?
modern brook
The biggest thing to get used to is stressing your healer imo
fading python
My biggest issue is that I play wiht a dps mentaillity.. I dont consider Ignore pain at all if I have enough rage for Revenge
exotic spoke
Playing with a dps mentality is fine.
exotic spoke
That’s your goal. If you’re not dying you need to focus on dps
oblique garnet
Riki my freehold route is basically
pull whatever seems like the most fun pull to do
modern brook
My freehold route is "how many things can i pull with painful motivation before i die setting the pull up?
its many.
oblique garnet
thats waste
lusty grotto
That's my favorite too
exotic spoke
Painful only hits 3 targets 😦
fading python
So what if I am dying Late, what then ? Last stand or shield wall ?
oblique garnet
Dont die
lusty grotto
But because people interrupt it so I get to yell at them
modern brook
^
oblique garnet
use last stand when you run out of shield block charges
or when the pull is spicy
like 3-4 packs
or double on 21
fading python
3-4 packs ? monkaS
exotic spoke
@fading python you have bolster right? You should be using that as part of your defensive rotation
lusty grotto
Riki you can pull both of them if you pull the 2 pack + horsey
modern brook
If ur uncomfortable with your defensive rotaition I'd highly suggest rereading the guides
exotic spoke
True and we do.
lusty grotto
So there's 2 painful motivators giggity
fading python
Yes I have Bolster
exotic spoke
The take the remaining mob into the pack at the campfire
modern brook
UHhh nim
exotic spoke
3x SB into last stand repeat as much as possible
modern brook
there are 3
exotic spoke
Fill gaps with shield wall, etc
modern brook
in the pack no one pulls
lusty grotto
I uhh don't pull that
exotic spoke
Because that pack fucking melts
lusty grotto
Hmm
lusty grotto
Well if there is a painful motivation there I should pull it
exotic spoke
Yup
We didn’t pull all three last night in FH20 because of explosive
Could fuck us, Also would have gotten reaping at the same time
lusty grotto
Bro
modern brook
thats some sissy shit riki
exotic spoke
Reaping on top of ~15 mobs worth of explosive?
modern brook
Sounds like a PARSE
lusty grotto
Haha
fading python
Sounds stressfull as fuck
exotic spoke
Triple pull is fine. But I like to be able to click on the explosives
lusty grotto
Right not with reaping though
exotic spoke
Sorry it’s a quad pull
modern brook
it is
u can make it a triple with a rouge
but
at that oint just baby pull it
waiting on pats 🤢
exotic spoke
And we wanted to be sure to time it - so that we could get a 21 key - hence my AD tonight
lusty grotto
BTW, every single dk I've pugged with sucks balls, I swear they get invited cause of mdi but they don't actually know what the f to do
This week
fading python
would u peps always rock Crackling Thunder over Bounding Stride?
modern brook
both are good options
CT is generally better in a reaping meta though
cause u know
lusty grotto
"OK guys just focus orbs I'm gonna triple for the dk, he will melt it."
Never happens
exotic spoke
Shrouded to the first boss and killed one pack before him. Went to second boss - killed trash up to bridge before hero
Kill second boss, went to Harlan. Kill the 4 packs with motivators than Harlan.
Back to ring, went along the side so we didn’t have to deal with double crusher.
Got 80% reaping then killed Ludwig. Killed boss, cleared trash to complete
exotic spoke
Didn’t kill the pathing pack before ring - or the one pack infront of them / double crusher pack.
Killed like 4 packs and a bunch of yellows after boss.
Yeah pretty standard I think
modern brook
The cutest thing i do in that dungeon is delay joining the gang on certain weeks
I hate when dps question me that week
lusty grotto
I mean you have to, otherwise some shit becomes neutral and goes down in %
exotic spoke
Yeah, we kill a bunch of shit while we wait for hero
Because you can get the gang buff - and they will still Aggro on you until you kill second boss
sand egret
what about the inevitable "BUT THIS ISn"T EXActLy hOW i dID iT bEforE?!!!?!?!" rage and confusion from your dps who then go on pulling totally different packs, ultimately causing you to go over %
im not salty what are you talking about
lusty grotto
Lmao
sand egret
it's like bitch it's fucking Freehold
there's a bajillion permutations of how to pull this place
lusty grotto
That reminds me of a couple of days ago in temple
"why don't you pull the whole room" in snake boss room
Uhh it's fort and I don't want tenders getting heals off
exotic spoke
Oh fuck that noise
lusty grotto
Proceeds to pull entire room
mortal brook
bitch cuz you standing in breaths and pyros
lusty grotto
Lmao
mortal brook
saw a spriest in MDI. not sure why
lusty grotto
Also you get a reap halfway in that room so yeah
modern brook
both healing specs are outlcassed with every tank
outclassed by mage as a ranged dps
sand egret
Shadow is immune to Shadow Smash cuz OP fantasy!!
modern brook
YES FINALLY
exotic spoke
We always bring a spriest
modern brook
i can have dps stand in shit and not care
exotic spoke
Don’t be making fun of my spriests. Fuckers a life savor
lusty grotto
That mass dispel tho
modern brook
Unironicly; why?
exotic spoke
So good
And their dps is solid too. Utility like life grip and fucking extra healing
sand egret
VE is a dope Cooldown
lusty grotto
Wait
sick sentinel
@oblique garnet did you see my route?
lusty grotto
Are you serious they are immune to shadow smash
sand egret
lol noo
lusty grotto
I haven't played a priest alt since tbc
modern brook
@sick sentinel
sick sentinel
yeah I saw that
modern brook
Rip sorry
exotic spoke
No nim but they are pretty fucking dope
modern brook
figured u didnt cause no @
lusty grotto
Fuck dude I wish I could import to wago
@ the office today
Someone linked me a pornhub job listing and I almost clicked it on web WhatsApp lmao
modern brook
👀
mortal brook
risky clicks
modern brook
its chil man ur probs way more qualified than i am
lusty grotto
It's in fucking Montreal though
modern brook
Yeah i'd need canadian citizen ship
lusty grotto
Hell no its not
sand egret
we have an outsource studio based there
lusty grotto
Oh
sand egret
well, we work with an outsource studio there
but they always tell me about their poutine and I get sad cuz I can't eat it
sand egret
cuz i live in shitty America
lusty grotto
Lmao
sand egret
and poutine is not everywhere
brisk ferry
I live just south of Montreal, and poutine is amazing here
lusty grotto
Yup
brisk ferry
it sure is
lusty grotto
Too cold for sea mexicans
modern brook
Uhhhh let me introduce you to my little freind
exotic spoke
I like the cold - but that’s too cold.
modern brook
Global warming
sand egret
looks outside hmmm, honestly a few degrees less for more poutine ain't the worst trade...
exotic spoke
A few degrees? I live in Maryland - that’s a lot of degrees
And a fuck ton more snow. A metric fuck ton even
brisk ferry
yeah it's especially noticable this time of year too
overnight goes to like -5, and during the day up to like 15
lusty grotto
Listen, anything north of Virginia is too cold for me
brisk ferry
that's in non-murican temps
exotic spoke
#DMV amirite nim?
lusty grotto
Oh you mean -5 c as in minus c canadians
mortal brook
dumbest drivers in maryland. wasnt a day i wasnt scared for my life
lusty grotto
Bro Maryland has the worst drivers for sure
mortal brook
and literally a roulette on if they have insurance or not
exotic spoke
Funny story
mortal brook
im out in CO now, not a single problem with drivers here
exotic spoke
When I was 18, summer before college, my car got hit twice within 5 minutes while it was parked
Fucking totaled that shit
exotic spoke
Yeah, I was parked on a side street against the curb. First guy was drunk, rear ended the car - pushed the front passenger side tire onto the grass
I walk outside and am like fuck. Go back inside to get paper / pen for info
Come back out and a f150 rear ends my car as I leave the house
lusty grotto
Holy shit
mortal brook
i got T-boned by a soccer mom on a phone, got my car fixed, DRIVING HOME FROM BODY SHOP, and another dude turns through 4 lanes to T-bone my other side =/ Maryland man
lusty grotto
Christ
exotic spoke
Only the driver side rear tire was on the road (Barely) and I had shit in my trunk. They had to use a blow torch to cut it open
I called my parents and the first thing they ask is “are you alright?” Good. Have you been drinking?”
celest gate
Does anyone know why the fuck atal has a chance at 3 packs not existing g
exotic spoke
They swap sides tooderp
lusty grotto
No but I should is the right answer
celest gate
What is this, call of duty?
lusty grotto
Yeah we were just talking about that tooderp
exotic spoke
Underage and would be a problem when the cops showed up even though I never drove :p
lusty grotto
I always forget that mainland drinking age is 21
It's 18 in sea mexico
Also in real Mexico as far as I know
mortal brook
correct
lusty grotto
Honestly I don't know lmao
exotic spoke
I think so. Some places it’s like - can you go to the bar and order? If so then here you go
lusty grotto
So coming back to the AD thing
Right side packs switch with left side
It's changed run by run, afaik only AD does this on teeming
mortal brook
theres a 3rd option. teeming during that one world quest for that left side miniboss throws off left spawn further ^.^
mortal brook
there will be another honorguard on right
lusty grotto
Also
The 2 big terror birds below the right side
Sometimes they can do teeming to 3
celest gate
Atal seems like a bs key this week
lusty grotto
I know because we pull them up when pulling left side
Use a monk and CJL them up and do reaping there most weeks
Or any 40 yard ranged class really
lusty grotto
Horde main, only my rogue alt is alliance
celest gate
Because siege of borealus the packmasters one shot with a pack hound near them
If someone eats feral charge
Been trying to figure out how to do those pulls
exotic spoke
Fuck siege
celest gate
Yeah
The packmaster gets 125% more damage with a dog nearby
And someone always eats the charge and dies instantly
lusty grotto
Shit man I have no idea, I've ran it once or twice on my rogue and I just shroud to top of the horde entrance
mortal brook
or the dog clamps someone and they bleed to death >.>
lusty grotto
Though they see invis imo
celest gate
Before 1st boss
lusty grotto
No
lusty grotto
The dogs are at the start? Or just before the 1st boss o can't remember
exotic spoke
Alliance takes the horde path usually. Jumping over the water
lusty grotto
Yeah
exotic spoke
I haven’t done the alliance path... ever I think
exotic spoke
I’m alliance and do that path
lusty grotto
Pretty much
exotic spoke
You gotta burn them first
lusty grotto
Yeah the fucking sniper dudes rape
celest gate
It's been like 5 or 6 months since I've done horde side
exotic spoke
I’ve done the path but I don’t know the horde side mobs
exotic spoke
What level key are you doing?
celest gate
Well I'm getting ready to do a 17 or so today
I was going lower keys but the people were getting one shot on 14s
It's probably a l2p issue
But I'd rather time the 17 and just thought I'd ask for advice here beforehand
lusty grotto
let me see
paging @outer dew
maybe he knows
though he will probably say something like "just smeld (TM)"
exotic spoke
I can’t remember. Pretty sure we kill the dogs before the first boss first? Maybe I’m on something though
celest gate
Yeah that's usually the strat I go with
But it's the packmaster who nukes
Not the dog
sand egret
IIRC, the packmasters need to actually get the cast off to do the 125% increased damage
it's not an aura
but an applied buff
celest gate
No
exotic spoke
Bomber can hurt too or whatever it is
celest gate
If they are near a dog they get the buff
It is not bestial fury
It's a different buff
celest gate
I know fury is the casted biff
sand egret
ahh I found it
celest gate
I will go take lunch and hop in siege and screenshot
sand egret
celest gate
Yeah that one
I had no clue that was a thing until Friday
It explains why people are one shot by charge
sand egret
yeah, save stuns for the Clamping Jaws is my guess
celest gate
And move for charge
celest gate
That teeming pack this week is so bad there's a bomb guy
mortal brook
hibernate!!
outer dew
@celest gate you need to burn stun/ cc on the dogs, and you csnt be stun Dring
You also have to make sure it gets stunned again if it makes thenjunp
The charge is also dodge able if you know the movement
The pack is also the normal lust pack if you dont dont the 2x shroud
celest gate
Is the charge not just a line to the player's previous spot?
celest gate
Packmaster charge or dog charge
celest gate
I hate the pull synergy
outer dew
I mean
celest gate
There's the fire bomber in there as well
outer dew
This week I'd either shroud or lust it
celest gate
Aren't we all
outer dew
Rip
celest gate
I'm busy at work obvi
outer dew
So if you skip it
Theres like a 7 pack before it
Which you can do
Which does not have dogs but does have bombe4
It's a pack you usually do if you are use to doing double shroud
celest gate
I'd love to see the double shroud strat
outer dew
If you lust the dog pack
celest gate
Are you pulling patrol with it on lust?
outer dew
It sets up the the lust for second boss again
Yes
It should basically die before you yourself run out of stuns and fears
And the DH meta yada yada
celest gate
I'm not worried about me, just others
celest gate
Jesus
outer dew
Yes
outer dew
And the rogue is also on gouge duty
Hell, even my healer smelds and rakes if he ursols
celest gate
Okay, will have to heavily discuss the dog with group then
outer dew
Lmao
outer dew
But yea, a more meta route for NA alliance
Has been shroud beginning
On pull
And reshroud and rsther than walking under
You just walk all the top path
celest gate
Walk up top right
celest gate
Yeah I've done that shroud once so far
celest gate
Is shroud route fine on teeming?
celest gate
Only have done it once, so cant remember how it all plays out
outer dew
Just make sure to plan out the route
Only big trap though imo
Is dont get hung on using spotter
It's not a raging/bolstering week
celest gate
I like just killing spotter
exotic spoke
It can fuck you
outer dew
You'll do more damage with your group
celest gate
People don't know how circles work
outer dew
Esp in a meta where meele dps is king
celest gate
When the dog clamps can it be taunted back?
outer dew
It doesn't give a fuck til cced
celest gate
Does typhoon count?
primal crypt
Or dont know rather how to check the @
outer dew
No, has to be hard CC
exotic spoke
That was supposed to be test
primal crypt
Oh 
exotic spoke
Yeah tofu, but have you met Zul or whatever his name is
outer dew
You mean run like a bitch?
I love run like a bitch
Tbh, I haven't ran a key this week
exotic spoke
Yeah, feels bad man
outer dew
Debating if I even get a 10 done
exotic spoke
It’s not a bad week
outer dew
Not really enjoying anything in wow and just log on for raid
More fun memeing around in ff14
exotic spoke
Then don’t. If you do you just compound your burnout
outer dew
It's not like I'll be behind for 8.2 if I come back
exotic spoke
As and officer / raid leader - id rather have people logging on for raids and not much else than playing for a few more weeks at full strength before burning out
outer dew
417 equipped/ 48 neck
Not like I'm behind hella
Tbh, I hope this guild doesnt do CoS prog
I'm happy with just jaina farm
Lma9
exotic spoke
Exactly. I’ve stopped doing things for AP like isles, weekly quests, WQ, etc. I’m at 49 neck and don’t really want to hit it because then my failed bonus rolls feel bad
exotic spoke
I got the ring from zul this pst Thursday. It felt good. Went to 420 as well
celest gate
Are you running cloak?
floral bolt
is embrace of paku the best loa for prot war (for mythic+)?
mortal brook
gonk run fast, avoid all hits, kites best, best for tonk
floral bolt
vocal skiff
Just been in a group where the tank asked for shroud to skip the maggot and tick pack in UR and rogue said "don't need shroud", tank insisted on shroud, rogue said "I am not shrouding"
I mean, you don't indeed need shroud, but it's the tank's prerogative to call for it
mortal brook
srs tho, fortified teeming that pack can be rough without coordinated denial of the maggot barf
vocal skiff
yeah, but his point was that you could skip without shroud
which you can
but why risk anyway
mortal brook
hell i have rogue shroud the tentacles right before the last trash pull, cuz i dont trust anyone
vocal skiff
Yeah, why take an unnecessary risk like that
mortal brook
anyone that's done opulence prog knows you cant trust people to have basic control of their character's movement 😄
shroud best policy
neon tangle
oh fun, I'm becoming a semi-GM of my guild
the GM is out until 8.2, and all the other officers are taking breaks too
chilly brook
noice
mortal brook
🎊
mortal brook
raid the gbank, change the guild name
exotic spoke
Then server transfer / name change just to make sure it’s harder to trace
It’s the perfect crime
mortal brook
transfer the guild, actually
lusty grotto
hey man, when i became GL my first move was to make a trashcan position that's muted in guild chat
exotic spoke
Nah, they can follow you then
lusty grotto
and moved whoever fucked up to it
"congratulations dave, you are now trash can"
"feel free to roast him"
also i gkicked 1 of my friends at random times
guy started telling story
guy gets gkicked
guy is #1 in dps
guy gets gkicked
"congratulations guy, the loot council awards you this piece"
guy gets gkicked
exotic spoke
We have a can kick officer rank. So if one officer gets too mouthy the other gets promoted up and then kicks / demoted.
We basically just fuck with each other
mortal brook
guy wins a roll in CrossGambling. that's a kick
exotic spoke
Nah, that’s how I get gold
lusty grotto
guy fucks up
everyone expects gkick
gkick other random person
mortal brook
require guild tabards
exotic spoke
Form a cult of personality... ban words and punish severely
lusty grotto
i learned that one from my old EQ1 guild leader
mortal brook
for esprit de corp
exotic spoke
No, seriously I kick people every day we raid - but it’s just a joke
lusty grotto
is only jokes!
mortal brook
as soon as you get your next Famed Slayer, /gdisband
"hey guys swap titles and let's get a picture!" disband
lusty grotto
we had 1 member who was the original GL
who became irrationally angry whenever someone said "grats" in guild chat
so naturally
we all spammed our best ascii "gratz" art
and guy always did the best one
so everyone expects guy to spam his ascii gratz, >gets gkicked
obviously on achievements he got gkicked
and when logging in as well
after i stopped doing it, officers kept at it
lmao
to this day, people still kick him from groups/etc on completely different games
mortal brook
a fine tradition
lusty grotto
guy's computer must have caught on, cause now he just randomly crashes on Apex
exotic spoke
That’s pretty good
Btw, anyone know of a mail add on which will let me send a bunch of mail with a specific constraints at a time
IE I want to send 12.5k Of badly burnt food as individual mail all set as COD
For.... reasons
lusty grotto
lol
exotic spoke
He deserves it.
lusty grotto
idk but i need it too
exotic spoke
There’s a funny story
I started collecting them in legion after someone filled my mail box with old (like BC old) flasks, herbs, and pots.
He did it because we made people reflask for the last 20 minutes and he popped a BC flask to get by the auto check thing
Fine, except we caught him and made fun of him.
So I start collecting. I got up to 1500 and one night after he logged I just mailed them all. One by one. With COD amounts that were mostly 1-10 gold a piece but occasionally I’d put 1000 or 10k Incase he took them all so I got paid
He wasn’t amused and had to manually clear his mail box. But I kept going and sstocking up for the next time. Nomi and I became friends. I wanted the burnt food - and bought it from other people.
Now - when someone goes to far, I send all 12.5k. And I’m going to have to this week
exotic spoke
Nah, he didn’t
lusty grotto
i guess it doesnt work if it has COD
exotic spoke
I dunno. But yeah. He wasn’t amused
lusty grotto
haha
exotic spoke
Sometimes it’s a team building activity where I get other people to help
marble cipher
't was only a FH 11, but, I feel that top spot on overall damage was deserved as the tank
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236531364835360769/575033963140087864/unknown.png
marble cipher
Yeah, sometimes it's nice to pug bad dps, to make me look good 😂
celest gate
Mm I bet an 11 is pull everything
neon tangle
@marble cipher Most of the tanks in 11s for me pull soooooo small
stiff bear
s
neon tangle
it's always a bummer looking at your overall dps when you spend most of a dungeon doing 2-3 mobs at a time
zinc vessel
dont need bad pug dps to look good tho 😛 https://gyazo.com/37ce90b9e9fa1fdf936c1e3a6baace92
+10 freehold
marble cipher
Pog
sick sentinel
what was the ret doing?
neon tangle
Just ret things
mint adder
WOG
zinc vessel
we were some friends helping out a friend gearing an alt
fading python
Boys I did it, I tanked my first +10 PogChamp
fading python
Atal ... we didn't even time it, feelsbadman - healer dc'd
zinc vessel
oh :c
fading python
I dont have the % mob addon thing, so we ended up having to kill 1 of the trihorns to finish it
rose moat
I got a question boys, i have been setting up some wa’s for dps cd’s to track them in higher keys.
I wanna track them so i know when i can pull big. According to the more exp tanks in m+ does this add anything or no use
lusty grotto
Hpal so good at lots of orbs, just pop wings and crusader strike holy shock spam
undone sun
WAs can help improve if you're already lacking on using CDs more often, otherwise it's pretty preferential
rose moat
Its not my own cds byt from the dps in the group
fading python
What is the % value mob addon actually called ?
rose moat
Angry keystone @fading python
fading python
tyty
lusty grotto
Both angry keystone or gotta go fast work well
fading python
If I pick "gottagofast" do I turn into that ugly sonic thing from the trailers?
empty inlet
Mcfat use zentracker
rose moat
method dungeon tools is also good to have
lusty grotto
I'm with Thyme though why would you wanna see dps's cds
rose moat
@empty inlet basically are just making my own version
fading python
If im a pleb tank for +m which dungeon should I ABSOLUTLY NOT do at first ?
rose moat
Shrine
empty inlet
Teaming atal
rose moat
KR
lusty grotto
The WA I use to track interrupts also tracks them but I have them on off
fading python
I just did teeming atal, so I suppose thats not that bad?
lusty grotto
Start with any of them
empty inlet
Teaming atal is random
lusty grotto
You need practice
empty inlet
Alot of teaming packs MIGHT happen so
lusty grotto
The earlier you identify which dungeons are tougher with x affixes the better
exotic spoke
I like to see kicks and dps group defensive / utility CDs. Ie darkness, spriest heals, warrior shouts, etc
empty inlet
The best thing to do when learning to tank is just to play. Every time you die you think what you can do differently
rose moat
Im trackings externals, interrupts, dispell cd (reaping), utillity (shroud, earth ele), Stuns
empty inlet
So why dont you just use zen tracker
exotic spoke
I believe ERT does it too? I think that’s the addpn that I have which does it
empty inlet
Most people uses zen tracker with nnoga party
undone sun
tehr's WA ¯_(ツ)_/¯
rose moat
i just dont use nnogA
lusty grotto
i use Tehr's
i only use ERT for auto logs (but yeah you can configure it to track cooldowns)
but yeah tehr's author quit so
undone sun
+1
steel mauve
i use tehrs, i used to use ert but it stopped working well for me, like it would show my rally cry, but not my co tanks, until i used my rally cry, then his popped up but it wouldnt show my rally's cd remaining, and a lot of that for other cd's and externals
undone sun
didn't know about tehr's quitting, but im not surprised
lusty grotto
yeah as long as brezzes and interrupts are tracked, im ok with it
would be nice to track engi brezzes but i don't think that's possible
opal mesa
hey, last i raided there was a youtube channel giving really short tactic guides for bosses without all the nonsense
is that thing still around?
undone sun
how long ago was this
warm plinth
FatBoss maybe?
sick sentinel
watch hazelnut's
opal mesa
no
undone sun
oh, basic boss guides. i guess like fatboss
warm plinth
Even though I think they suck
opal mesa
hzelnuts is dreadful
sick sentinel
she explains them like you are super retarded lmao
warm plinth
Whereas Fatboss's goal is to record each video with only taking one breath.
opal mesa
they were these
wonderful
1 minute explanations of only the relevant information for tanks
with animations of the map and raid locations
fatboss is good if you want to know all the mechanics
and have 5 whole minutes to waste
lime mantle
More than 5 minutes
undone sun
their uunat is 13 minutes, im sure majority is wasted
lime mantle
FB beats around the bush so much it takes multiple watches
lusty grotto
or... you can check out tanknotes.tk
lime mantle
Uunat is easy
- AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
- [The screams continue]
- why did you use the crown when we had void stone?
warm plinth
Yeah they just try to smash as many words into their videos as possible and the delivery is just awful.
lusty grotto
uhh 2nd to last BoD fight?
warm plinth
2nd to last boss of BoD
opal mesa
oh that
exotic spoke
^^
opal mesa
was their channel bombed or something
lusty grotto
what do you call it? boaty mcboatface with mucus mcelemental
opal mesa
or is this a fake channel
it only had a few random videos up
oh well
fatboss it is then
celest gate
How good is that commanding shout trait in raid?
exotic spoke
I enjoy having it - a one off. Would I specifically try to get it at the detriment of something else?
Probably not.
celest gate
Are you a triple BoM/DC person riki?
celest gate
Self reliance looks p bad
I wonder how hard it would be to get into a higher mythic guild as a tank
I am dogshit at fury after not having played it since legion
lusty grotto
good luck
celest gate
Well fook
exotic spoke
I don’t have the option to do 3 dc 3 BoM
I currently do 3 BoM 2 If and 1 dc for m+
For raids I could swap and do 1 If and 1 BfI
lusty grotto
its mostly because of tank slots being limited though
celest gate
Do people even take fury warriors
exotic spoke
We have a fury warrior. We want people that are good - mechanics are a priority usually for us / but also output will shift patch to patch. So yeah
As long as people are competent with mechanics and do decent with bracket parses we’ll take them
celest gate
First of all, fury is melee dps. No brain only smash.
That promotions channel is neat
rose moat
Classes dont matter if you dont go for W1, people being able to do a dance with fire is important
exotic spoke
Melee have mechanics too 😛
rose moat
or able to dodge a fucking massive cannon
celest gate
Cannon??
rose moat
or to yell a collor
exotic spoke
Mythic Mekkatorque says that (positioning for blast off)
Mythic Opulence too
Actually, conclave for that matter too / Rasta
exotic spoke
Or to not clear too frequently or not frequently enough.
exotic spoke
Play what you want.
rose moat
And as tank you can see everyone fuck up and cry cause you need to do same shit again
celest gate
No u
rose moat
but dont you dare die yourself to a tank boss bcs then all dps have a mic all of the sudden
exotic spoke
/wrists on opulence
celest gate
I didnt think that possible on a tank
rose moat
2 smashes of grong to the face tend to do shit to people
exotic spoke
Watching dps fuck up mecahnics
Eh, two smashes aren’t too bad
However, paku can hurt in mythic - killing him last
celest gate
Unluckers
lusty grotto
shrug you can block it
celest gate
Couldn't brew live it with zen med
lusty grotto
what is this the monk channel?
celest gate
Hey
lusty grotto
rose moat
Monk can survive it even without zen
exotic spoke
I mean, I don’t count on it - but it’s nice to know it is.
celest gate
Did you see thenshit that was talked earlier
rose moat
You just go really high in stagger
celest gate
This is tame
lusty grotto
gtfo monks
rose moat
Monk is fucking borring cause you just dont get punished for having a retarded DK as tank buddy
lusty grotto
im about to get the rolled up newspaper and go to town like i did with bear rerollers a few weeks ago
exotic spoke
I don’t think you need last stand either... can’t remember though.
celest gate
Tfw I swapped from monk to warrior for damage
lusty grotto
this is the protection channel, we only discuss outlaw rogues here
rose moat
Can we discuss feral druids now?
lusty grotto
ok ok feral is allowed
celest gate
They bring Brez
lusty grotto
since poyo is one
rose moat
Cause prot pally is a shit version of a warrior with light comeon out of there ass
rose moat
EY WE BRING STUN AND RALLY!
celest gate
Prot has plenty of utility
rose moat
According to my RL battle shout is replaceable
Cry isnt xD
That is why im playinng warr
lusty grotto
honestly though why the fuck do monks have the damage buff shit, that should have been given to warriors
exotic spoke
Safe guard
Also, my DH would like to disagree
And spell reflect. That’s a fuck ton of damage
umbral forge
Nim, are we friends
exotic spoke
I believe that not taking the damage is utility
celest gate
Wait, is vengeance dh best utility tank?
umbral forge
yeah
lusty grotto
no you are disgusting jettom
exotic spoke
It cheeses some mechanics
celest gate
Silence chains fear
exotic spoke
RIP @umbral forge
umbral forge
vengeance DH is the best tank in the game if you disregard the fact they can't tank damage.
lusty grotto
lmao
warm plinth
They can't do their role but they're awesome
lusty grotto
i agree with jettom
umbral forge
they just can't be hit for more than 4 seconds or they die
celest gate
Mass stun?
celest gate
Do u mean misery fear
lusty grotto
uhh
lusty grotto
??????
celest gate
Err stun, I'm afk
celest gate
Yes
lusty grotto
goddamn
near ivy
@rose moat we already have 3 other rallys
umbral forge
vengeance DH tank.
MW Healer to keep the DH alive.
WW Monk for stun.
Warlock to soulstone ress the DH tank.
Feral Druid for more melee interrupts.
#New Meta
near ivy
what is quinn on about
rose moat
I got hated on for this after i posted this shit in Naowhs discord after somebody asked to sum up the meta tanks
Like every tanking class is different, so to say best tank mitigation wise is to wide of a spectrum...
If you want ez mitigation and steady, monk is your class
If you want more of a challenge: warr or pally
If you wanna be self sustainable for a large portion of the fight DK
If you dont care for dps and just want a ez time Druid
If you never wanna raid and get invited into a guild: DH
This is all for raiding btw
M+ mitigation is even harder to say cause it changes with affixes and dungs and group setup.
exotic spoke
But yeah... reflect is utility imo. An extra “interrupt” that can do a fuck ton of damage / help you cheese mechanics that other classes don’t have access to
lusty grotto
jesus christ you people ARE on drugs
exotic spoke
Me?!?!
umbral forge
Me!??!?!
lusty grotto
send some pls
undone sun
i am drugs
lusty grotto
😮
exotic spoke
Yes you Jettom - you have a nightborne
umbral forge
nim do you not like my new meta build for m+?
warm plinth
If DH could be Nightborne, would you be a Nightborne DH?
umbral forge
vengeance DH tank.
MW Healer to keep the DH alive.
Enhance Shaman for stun.
Warlock to soulstone ress the DH tank.
Feral Druid for more melee interrupts.
#New Meta
warm plinth
I'm just curious!
umbral forge
No, I wouldn't be.
lusty grotto
why enhance
warm plinth
Ele has stun too
warm plinth
Wut
lusty grotto
yeah enhance is ok
celest gate
Real talk, vengeance has never been good
warm plinth
Worst spec meta but no arms war?
umbral forge
wait this isn't satire?
exotic spoke
Obviously you should take resto shaman so they can take the talent that lets them get a brez that isn’t a brez (if they use it before the person dies)
celest gate
Was it though
lusty grotto
because all the others fucking suck and are boring as shit
warm plinth
Yes, yes it was.
You were invulnerable 99% of the time, and in the other 1%, you just cast Demon Spikes
umbral forge
Sometimes I wonder if marok opens this chat and just goes
warm plinth
And became invulnerable
umbral forge
"Should I just rename it offtection"
exotic spoke
Sometimes he should thanos snap.... then either it’s not a problem cause I’m gone or it’s not a problem cause others are gone
umbral forge
I like guardian druid
celest gate
What's wrong with talking about other non-viable in every situation tanks?
exotic spoke
Every tank is viable
lusty grotto
🗞 🗞 🗞 🗞 🗞 🗞
exotic spoke
Repeat after me:
“Every tank is viable”
warm plinth
Every tank is viable, if viable means can they do the content
celest gate
Prove it
lusty grotto
viable
warm plinth
Which they can
umbral forge
I wish prot warriors were as good as Guardian Druids.
Stampeding Roar, self healing, comfortable fur
warm plinth
Just one is way harder
celest gate
How many vdh have done jaina
exotic spoke
viable doesn’t mean desirable
celest gate
Or guardians
exotic spoke
Or easy, but they can do the content
warm plinth
Why do it with a harder spec when you can do it with an easier spec?