protection

[oblique garnet]

Thats true with every tank

[outer dew]

Like why are you telling me???

[oblique garnet]

You still need brain

[sand condor]

Welp that means i dont level a bdk

[outer dew]

Trolling

And no, this guy does not plan out any CDs

[oblique garnet]

Stick with the warrior vic

[outer dew]

He pulls 3 maggot packs and dies ???

[neon tangle]

reactive tank amirite

[outer dew]

Like the fuck

Pull some rp

[oblique garnet]

Once you learn it you can change to others

[sand condor]

Oof

[outer dew]

Dont fucking run in with nothing

???

[sand condor]

Luckily i have great teacherso

[outer dew]

Oh

If lates teaching you

You're fucked

:^)

[neon tangle]

@outer dew it is sketchy watching a good DKs health bar

100%->10%->100%->10%

[outer dew]

Nah. I have no problem healing him

[sand condor]

Jettom makes fun of me when i fuck up 😛 toppestkek but it helps

[outer dew]

I let most of my tanks sit not full

[sand condor]

I still make..a bunch of mistakes but im improving

[outer dew]

My problem is him not pooling resources

And trolling me when I sac him

[austere oar]

Problem is the attention from healer they require

[oblique garnet]

Holy pala and bdk are a bad match anyways

[drowsy salmon]

@outer dew i want to raise the level, now i am gearing up so i can't face15+

[sand condor]

Holy, deathknight

[oblique garnet]

Gearing up takes a day

[outer dew]

Gear isnt what's stopping you from pushing

Lol

[sand condor]

Are you surprised?

[neon tangle]

"Problem is the attention from healer they require" - imagine how much grief you would have gotten for saying that in s1

[outer dew]

I quipped my bear to 405 in one night

[oblique garnet]

I said it in s1

I was laughed at

[outer dew]

But I have friends

??? Wdym

Prenerf

[oblique garnet]

Once they healed me they didnt want to heal bdk anymore

[austere oar]

I mean I always trash talked dks in s1 but ppl didnt listen when I healed after my leveling

[drowsy salmon]

i don't have any kind of help in terms of boosting

[austere oar]

Like after leveling in bfa launch you couldn't heal anyone else than your bdk

[drowsy salmon]

i am doing step by step raising key and looking for equip

[outer dew]

BDK was insane in s1 prenerf though

[oblique garnet]

Not really

[neon tangle]

^^^ the nerfs were REALLY minor

[outer dew]

And gearing isn't the issue for keys

Nah

Bonestorm nerf is the huge thing

You couldn't compete with that mong ass shit

[neon tangle]

in high keys you weren't exactly spending that much time face-tanking >5 mobs all that often

it would have been AMAZING for reaping

[outer dew]

But it set you up for some mega packs

And reaping isnt a big deal tbh

As long as you dont ams the fucking reaping

Like a mong

[oblique garnet]

Yes it set you up for giga pulls

But you still needed more healing attention than warrior did

[outer dew]

Yes, but having more uptime in SB and being able to dump rage without a gcd used into IP was fairly fat for us

[oblique garnet]

Yes ofc

[neon tangle]

Honestly watching the streams of people doing 20s

Not really a lot of gigapulls

[oblique garnet]

Because you couldnt do giga pulls

[neon tangle]

Like I wish I could say “bonestorm nerf was huge”

But it wasn’t

People didn’t utilize it

[outer dew]

20s weren't common when bonestorm nerf was a thing

[oblique garnet]

Yes they were

[neon tangle]

It was a nerf to islands

Lol

And honestly I expect a nerf because of reaping

It would have made reaping a “can’t die” CD

[oblique garnet]

Not really

Cant heal oneshots

Which the dot will do

If not dispelled

[outer dew]

Not really a big deal though

Dot doesnt tick if you keep refreshing

Hence me bitching about the dumb fucker amsing

[oblique garnet]

Yes and then you get that one tick at 40 stacks and your tank dies

Just dispel it

[outer dew]

Almost like I have a wa tracking ticks

[oblique garnet]

Lazy man

[sick sentinel]

Lmao

[outer dew]

And it's more of for the large mini packs

You cam dispelling and watch 50 get on again

Lmak

[oblique garnet]

Then you dispel again???

Hello

[outer dew]

Almost like 8cd

???

[oblique garnet]

Zzz

It wont be insta ticking

[outer dew]

Yes. But sometimes you stall out the dispell so you make sure you get it at low stack or none

Rather than on CD

I'm watching the tick anyway

Because if I dispell and he gets fat stacks after anyway

It's sad times

[oblique garnet]

😪

This is why i end up taking the oneshot from reaping

Its healers like you tofu

[outer dew]

Lmao

Wdym

I haven't let a tank die to reaping unless they troll me

[oblique garnet]

I dont believe you anymore

[outer dew]

Wow late

That's toxic

You know I've had tanks assassinate me

???

[oblique garnet]

Also whats wrong with me teaching???

[outer dew]

I no longer trust tanks with sac and reaping

You ever watch your tank eat a smash with sac on?

[oblique garnet]

No

[outer dew]

Depression

[oblique garnet]

Because i dodge that

[outer dew]

Real depression

[orchid token]

wouldnt happen if u play druid

so this is really still your fault

[outer dew]

That's too big brain

And obviously late

You play at too high of a level to be useful as comparison

Like the nerfclap bigbrain

Btw, y'all think anyone gonna hit 4k this season?

[oblique garnet]

Dont think its possible

There are some dungeons that are too overtuned to be done on 25

Which is what you basically have to have all done at to get 4k

[outer dew]

Yea, but we might see some retuning again before next season

Like we saw in season 1

[oblique garnet]

Maybe

To kr

But thats about it

I think shrine is actually doable on 25 fort week

[sick sentinel]

Keep in mind

[oblique garnet]

On tyrannical not so much

[sick sentinel]

We will still have reaping in 8.2 and before the new raid

[sand condor]

Late and Kaege have bothgiven good tips

[sick sentinel]

So for that duration of time

People will be blasting

[oblique garnet]

Depends

How long does it take people to get the new essences

[orchid token]

the vision of perfection is keystone master iirc

[outer dew]

I thought we were keeping current?

[oblique garnet]

Vision of perfection was from a questline iirc

[neon tangle]

@oblique garnet I meant that with dispels bonestorm+reaping would have been insane HPS

[orchid token]

not really

[oblique garnet]

Idk

Reaping mobs dont hit that much

[orchid token]

there's not much damage in a reaping pack

ton of overhealing i guess

[oblique garnet]

Probably more dps imo

[outer dew]

He's not saying its strong for realing

Hes saying its strong to pull packs during reaping

That are normally dangetous

[oblique garnet]

Well yeah

[neon tangle]

Y’all got to think harder about how to use mechanics

[oblique garnet]

But again

[neon tangle]

Like tofu said

[oblique garnet]

Why bring dk when you can bring warrior or druid which actually do damage

[outer dew]

Oi

You know in ML

I dream of a good mage

Lmao

[neon tangle]

Reaping up would mean you would be mostly invincible during bonestorm, which would be useful pulling it in to other packs

[hardy geyser]

Is it advisable to spec 3 x DC and BoM if I have it? I see a few people running that, though I don't inspect many warriors.

[outer dew]

No more mass grips

[neon tangle]

Obvs warrior doing damage is better this season

[outer dew]

Ngl

[oblique garnet]

@hardy geyser if you are competent go for it it only brings damage after first dc

[outer dew]

I've been a bitch in some 20+ keys

And been using my raid set

Lmao

[neon tangle]

But bonestorm uncapped would have certainly lead to some fun stuff with reaping

[outer dew]

3x BFI / 2x If / 1dc

And just AFK

[hardy geyser]

Yeah, I got that for sure, I'm starting to tank keys this week and we've done some 17s without me dying it's mainly been my pull knowledge that fucks the key up.

I main fury 😰

[outer dew]

Did 2x 21 atals. The amount of block gained from BFI is ridic

Some pulls that chunked with 3x bastion / 3x DC just never happened

[oblique garnet]

Cba going defensives until im tanking a raid

[outer dew]

I mean

I have both sets

I dont mind trying them out

Dont have to reforge anything

[oblique garnet]

Ive had no issues pulling big on higher keys with full yolo

[outer dew]

It's more with this week and group of people in run with are too stun gung ho

[oblique garnet]

Only thing that was spicy was the entire raal room with boss + reaping afterwards

[outer dew]

So some packs that all get raging are spooky

[hardy geyser]

Alright, cheers guys!

[outer dew]

2x SB + Stabby boi in atal gets spooky on raging

[hardy geyser]

I'll give some keys a crack today

[outer dew]

Tbh

If you're pugging , damage will be fine if you cant trust the group to pump

But most of the time it's not a damage issue

It's an execution issue If its inhouse

[oblique garnet]

Our groups rogue is chokelord when it comes to 3rd boss on underrot

Everytime

He just forgets how to play

[outer dew]

Yeap

I know a shaman that inted 2nd 23 atal in world by inting into a spider twice

Lmao

Oh, you know what frustrating?

Atal tyrannical with pugs

Having them constantly run around everywhere vs stacked

Is so frustrating

[sick sentinel]

my rogue also used to int in 3rd boss UR

and yeah, execution is the only issue

except when I am running with a boomie lmao

[oblique garnet]

?

[sick sentinel]

we did a wcm 20 yday with like 3:22 on the timer

but like

rogue had 37k dps overall and boomie had 27k

[oblique garnet]

Well yeah

Probably shitting on everyone on boss damage tho

[sick sentinel]

well yeah

[oblique garnet]

Thats why you gotta bring ele shaman my friend

[sick sentinel]

but both the outlul and the bm hunter get st dps from cleave

[oblique garnet]

Not much

[sick sentinel]

I pulled half of raal's room to raal

and it procced reaping

[oblique garnet]

Only half?

Smh

Do it all in one go with bl

Legit thats the play this week

[sick sentinel]

I did the other half with half the hallway

we got top right

[oblique garnet]

Have rogue trigger the closest door to courtyard open

Oh

Well you can do that from that route aswell

[sick sentinel]

we tried to reset sisters to open the doors

and doors didn't open

and we had to go upstairs

[oblique garnet]

There is no bad doors this week tho

[sick sentinel]

true

[oblique garnet]

Legit did the pull

Took less than 4.5m damage

Which is like nothing

[sick sentinel]

we wouldn't have gotten reaping though

[oblique garnet]

You do

The entire room is around 20%

[sick sentinel]

hmm

[oblique garnet]

You can have someone pull something for you if you dont thi

[sick sentinel]

it's 15%

[outer dew]

Only thing I dont like about that room when you get top right

Is it's hard to gather them

And is the serpent sting LoS able?

[oblique garnet]

@sick sentinel you trigger the first reaping on the corridor get around 25% go to raals ez

No it is not

And it bounces

[sick sentinel]

you do not pull marksmen if you get top right

you hug wall and go in

[outer dew]

Hmm

I guess this weeks fine

Just some affixes for corridor is ass

To not clear it

Theres also no witch so I guess it's fine

I wonder if the play is you shroud all the way to hallway

Pull the hall way

Then lust pull into raal

[oblique garnet]

You need the % before

[outer dew]

I mean if you grab hall way

[oblique garnet]

Otherwise you end up backtracking alot

[outer dew]

• raal trash

That'll be reaping

You van also grab corner pack in court that people tend to skip

And you could always just Lucille up

And for a big pack with the marksman downstairs

Upstairs that you skipped

If you really needed %

[oblique garnet]

Yes

[grizzled light]

I know its ilvl over stats but on pants with a big stat budget i wonder, 410 Haste/verse with a socket or 415 crit/mastery with a socket

[proud spruce]

Anyone have any analysis or insight of what the best azerite traits are for Mythic Cabal progression?

[sick sentinel]

@grizzled light use 415

[ionic fern]

WHich reminds me, i finally got the Gore-Crusted after bonus rolling every time i'm in WM.

Only 400 ilvl. 😦

[delicate swan]

Ill pray for that 425 for you Mwahi ❤

[sand condor]

i got it at 410 once

and gave it to my paladin friend....

mistakes were made

[sick sentinel]

???????

well I got at 410 as well before

but I have a 400+s

[sand condor]

i didnt know it was good okay

IT WAS MY FIRST DAY AS A TANK

[oblique garnet]

@sand condor its good for fury aswell???

Smh

[sand condor]

yes

[oblique garnet]

Shame

[sand condor]

i deserve that one

i've been trying to do waycrests

[oblique garnet]

You bring great dishonor to #protection by supporting paladins

[sand condor]

she was our bottom dps in raids...i thought it might help

[oblique garnet]

Thats a player issue

[sand condor]

it was yes

even out top dps

also a paluldin

wasnt able to get it over 12k for her

and then we had our "main" (meme) tank

also a paladin

we had too many paladins

[runic yoke]

How does the ivus trinket compare to block? Its crit on use instead of proc

600iwh crit on 1 min CD

[elfin plume]

what % of the damage is not taken when you block an attack

[brittle owl]

look on your character sheet

on block

the tooltip will show % of damage mitigated by block

[remote gale]

Does any one have a weak aura that print a message in chat when a spell is reflected ?

[sick sentinel]

Ask on #ui-addons-manager , you are more likely to get help there

[remote gale]

Oh right, sorry !

[willow scarab]

Is this any good?

Also 9/9 tonight hel yeah

[astral crystal]

grats my du

also looks alright but not sure it beats out other damage combos like rezan/block

does the frost damage go up with the stacks?

[willow scarab]

yeah the frost damage multiplies by 10 as well

bloodmalle ranks it really high

[lusty grotto]

Yeah it's our best dps trinket, but only dps. I only use it on 15 and under

Otherwise I stick with crit + haste trinkets

@elfin plume @brittle owl formula for block damage reductions is block dr = total block value / (total block value + k) where k values are..

M0/M+: 8467.2 (x1.344)
BfD/Shrine LFR: 8467.2 (x1.344)
BfD/Shrine Normal: 9311.4 (x1.478)
BfD/Shrine Heroic: 10275.3 (x1.631)
BfD/Shrine Mythic: 11390.4 (x1.808)```

[brittle owl]

oh ye forgot about k

gangsta's forgot about K

[proud ermine]

Hey guys, was there a spreadsheet that shows what is spell reflectable in BoD?

[sick sentinel]

yes check guides part

[proud ermine]

Dur

I looked but I clearly didn't look well enough

thanks for that ❤

[elfin plume]

thats too much math

is there a simpler way to explain it

[lusty grotto]

no

like maelkenar says, you can look at the character sheet, but it varies by content due to K values so

also that's not too much math at all.. insert values into the top formula, that's it

[elfin plume]

yeah i looked at the chracter sheet

https://gyazo.com/ad11d52aeef8fe86ce03e55c89e68403

that doesnt really help much

[lusty grotto]

do math then

[elfin plume]

why

and yes

[lusty grotto]

ok then don't

[elfin plume]

thats alot of math

for someone who is shit at it

just like how some guilds think heroic jaina is hard

[lusty grotto]

literally x divided by x + k

[elfin plume]

i dont even understand that sentence

isnt there a general % thats used

[west galleon]

i

you don't understand x/(x+k)

[elfin plume]

no

[west galleon]

it's 2 numbers

[lusty grotto]

hes trolling

[elfin plume]

of course i dont

[west galleon]

hello

[elfin plume]

???

im shit at math

not everyone knows how to do math

[west galleon]

one number is x one number is k

put x over x plus k

[elfin plume]

yeah that doesnt help me

the reason i ask questions like these in this discord

is because you people are number nerds

and i am not

if i could do it myself i wouldnt ask

[lusty grotto]

its basic division and addition

[west galleon]

i mean not like i can do it for you

[lusty grotto]

like really basic

[elfin plume]

basic for you

[lusty grotto]

no

its basic for everyone

[elfin plume]

yes

not basic for someone who never passed a math class

[west galleon]

i understand some people don't have the same opportunities so idk if you ever got education in math or not and I won't ask but like I don't know your numbers

I can't really do it for you lol

[elfin plume]

its not that i had a bad education

its just i spent

all my time

studying history and politics

and not math

because i dont understand it

[west galleon]

well i mean if you went to high school you should know how to do something like x/(x+k)

you can literally put it in a calculator

[elfin plume]

yes that would be true under the assumption i 1) remembered to go to math class 2) paid attention in the math classes i did go to

[west galleon]

it's a 7th grade math class equation like i assume if you passed the class you can do division

what don't you understand about the problem? like how can i help you w it

[elfin plume]

https://gyazo.com/5f9f870417fc2aa852e10d935ea4a86a?token=a48ccea0c2cceba872994b0c8544d7fa

[lusty grotto]

i put that in the calculator that's it

[elfin plume]

w/e

thanks for the help

[west galleon]

if u didn't pass a 7th grade class u didn't go to high school

like the formula literally says (block value)/(block value+the numbers in the chart)

[astral crystal]

common core tho

it's not his fault

[west galleon]

ehhhhhh

[lusty grotto]

if someone knows addition, they can easily do the division afterwards in a calculator

especially if they studied history and politics

its not calculus

its very basic math operations

[elfin plume]

yes i did go to high school

i didnt pass math

[lusty grotto]

addition and division, that's it

[elfin plume]

you have credits in other classes

i passed my other classes

and failed math

because im shit at math

not going to waste my time with it

would rather ask someone who is more knowledgeable than i

[lusty grotto]

sorry were not your math gimps

moving along

[elfin plume]

thats what these fucking discords are for

[lusty grotto]

bro how in the fuck are we gonna know your block value

[west galleon]

bro i'm not a history major but i can understand that things in the past came before things in the present

like it's that basic

[elfin plume]

yes?

thats not math

[lusty grotto]

and how in the fuck are we gonna know what content type you do

hes trolling

[west galleon]

Omg

[lusty grotto]

just lets move along

[elfin plume]

????

[west galleon]

ur literally trolling

[elfin plume]

how

[west galleon]

i was making an analogy to history since i know shit about history

[elfin plume]

something coming before the other isnt math

[west galleon]

like you say u know shit about math

[elfin plume]

its a sequence of events

[west galleon]

ur making me lose brain cells i gotta go

[elfin plume]

how is that math

no wonder people dont like the warrior discord

jesus

[lusty grotto]

guaranteed replies

[west galleon]

like did u fail english too

u know what an analogy is ya?

[astral crystal]

chat's getting ☣

where is daddy

[slim cosmos]

sooo... can you intercept jagged nettles and then spell reflect it?

[oblique garnet]

@sick sentinel FUCK

[vagrant arrow]

Shrine is easiest this week

[oblique garnet]

yeah but ive already done like 4 shrines this week

[sick sentinel]

shrine is fine dude

oh

[oblique garnet]

cba

[sick sentinel]

I just depleted a ml 21

[oblique garnet]

o.o

[lusty grotto]

rip

[oblique garnet]

ml is giga easy

[sick sentinel]

we scuffed the deathskip from second to 3rd boss

we had like 13 mins left

[oblique garnet]

oof

[lusty grotto]

did you know

[astral crystal]

is jagged nettles the cast from the boss bitches

[lusty grotto]

jagged nettles is from the matrons

iirc

[west galleon]

sister briar

[sick sentinel]

yeah

[slim cosmos]

yes

[lusty grotto]

you can't intervene+SR anything in the game

[slim cosmos]

ah, well that helps.

[lusty grotto]

you used to be able, but not anymore

[slim cosmos]

sad. guess it would be kind of op

[lusty grotto]

you can safeguard the person though

[slim cosmos]

more generally, is there a way to see how much damage you got from spell reflect throughout a whole dungeon?

[lusty grotto]

so that person takes less damage

[west galleon]

i don't think details counts spell reflect dmg

[slim cosmos]

it doesn't

[lusty grotto]

with logs you can

[potent anvil]

Details shows total damage reflect. Could do math to see how much per reflect. Otherwise logs.

[oblique garnet]

you can check enemy damage taken

[lusty grotto]

but there's some math work

[slim cosmos]

the way I've been doing it is if I know the name of the spell (like blood bolt), on WCL I see how much damage enemies took from blood bolt

but there's cases where I reflect things but don't know the name of the spell (I just hear the reflect noise but don't know which aiblity it worked on)

[lusty grotto]

yeah i see what you're saying

[potent anvil]

On details, you need to sort by enemy damage taken, and set to everything. Then look at the boss/enemy entry and youll see how much damage you reflected in total. If that help you any.

[lusty grotto]

i think he wants to know spells that he reflect

like anything that he might have not expected

[balmy narwhal]

hey guys

[west galleon]

i wish it just added to your damage

[balmy narwhal]

is there a WA for mythic Mekka to show he gets thrown up?

[slim cosmos]

both, ideally. sometimes I just throw up SR in a hectic situation without knowing what it might reflect

[potent anvil]

Hmm, not sure. If multiple reflectable casts go off simultaneously you reflect all of it at once. Other than that its just the timing of when you reflect.

[west galleon]

yeah there is go to wagio

[lusty grotto]

well throwing SR up works since it reduces magic damage taken

but i suspect you know that

[slim cosmos]

more generally I kind of just want to stroke my ego over big damage numbers... I did 1.5mill dmg to Elder Leaxxa with reflects which was kinda fun

[lusty grotto]

yeah i dont think that will happen

and if does

[west galleon]

getting a nice double reflect off

OOF

[lusty grotto]

we will get nerfed asap

cause people will complain

[west galleon]

if we get nerfed because of details then idk

it wouldn't be changing the amount of damage just showing it lul

[lusty grotto]

lesser things have been nerfed due to public outcry

[balmy narwhal]

Sorry to bother again but I only find the shrink Weakaura

[lusty grotto]

try in #ui-addons-manager

if nobody answers

[sick sentinel]

HOW DO YOU KINGS REST

oh we killed it

but we had to wait for lust again

[unborn island]

Which kings rest?

[sick sentinel]

first boss

+22

we killed it in +20 and barely lol

and then we left

[unborn island]

Is it even possible to time KR on 22 tyrannical?

[sick sentinel]

yes

[oblique garnet]

@sick sentinel 4 minutes over time on shrine :/

[vocal skiff]

Lol, I have done FH around 50 times, and only now I learned that Jolly's blade is absorbed by him

Thanks mdi

[west galleon]

ah so ur the pug tank that runs around with the boss the entire fight

[vocal skiff]

No more

lol

[mint adder]

We’ve got a 22 shrine that looks hot

Wish we had a kr this week though

[ionic fern]

KR is horrible this week.

😂

To our healer atleast.

[oblique garnet]

its not

its probably one of the easiest week to do kr

3rd boss rotation is literally the best you can get

[ionic fern]

I ment KR in general

Is horrible.

For healers.

There's a reason there's only 8 KR's done in time.

And hopefuly 9 soon after we finish our 22.

No, more 8 in EU bnut still, way less than others.

[mint adder]

It’s hard yes, but safeguard is great for the dots

[ionic fern]

Jeap.

[mint adder]

Jeap

[sick sentinel]

22kr

ticks for more than 210k

[oblique garnet]

isnt it like 185k on 22

[fickle urchin]

just stack dwarves.

[slim cosmos]

which would you take, a first IF or a second TC?

[sick sentinel]

no @oblique garnet

it's 200k in a 21

on 0 vers

[junior ivy]

hdey

hey

[long raft]

Is it just me or does OP seem really bad for m+. Reaping would get rid of those 25 stacks almost immediately.

Or does it work differently for tanks

[slim cosmos]

1s ICD

[umbral forge]

¨

[potent anvil]

OP stacks dont get consumed instantly. And it has an overall decent uptime. Pretty good for ST dps.

[sick sentinel]

Hey cat

[valid knot]

is [Servant Splitter] equal to other weapons with stats?

m+ wise

just got a [Servant Splitter] 405 + socket, got a 400 weap with haste/crit, what should i use?

[austere oar]

Ilvl

For weapons and shield go for ilvl, espacially with socket

[valid knot]

ok

just wondering if the effect is better or worse then stats

[austere oar]

What matters on weapons is attack power

[sick sentinel]

Its worse

But you still go with ilvl

[valid knot]

ah ok

maybe the socket makes up for it

[sick sentinel]

You would use a 405 servant splitter over a 400 with stats anyway

But you just want to get a 405 with stats to replace it

[valid knot]

405 servant splitter + socket vs a regular 405 or 410 weap then? Always go for ilvl?

[warm plinth]

@valid knot The socket doesn’t make up for it. The most important part of a weapon is the weapon DPS. It has a huge impact on your damage.

If you had a non-splitter 405, you’d use that instead, even if it didn’t have a socket.

[valid knot]

so splitter effect is pure shit?

thanks for the help

[warm plinth]

Yes pretty much

[valid knot]

alright

[undone sun]

Offensively it can be comparable at same ilevel but without s doubt not defensively

[stiff remnant]

Why isn't there a discord to put together plate only mythic runs lol

Tryin' to speed gear my prot alt.

[ornate nest]

was there not a spreadsheet for azerite traits?

[umbral forge]

https://i.imgur.com/DMVjobA.png I want die

I really want to die

[sand condor]

woah

[ionic fern]

@ornate nest not sure which one you mean. There's one in the #268491842637660160 protection section "Azerite Trait Analysis Sheet"

[honest canopy]

Got CoS pants 425 plus socket

[daring bay]

Anyone know who has better overall defensives? Prot warr or Prot pala

[austere oar]

Depends, in physical dmg situation warr will severely outperform pal

In magic prot pal will be better

[ionic fern]

Roughly that ^

[lusty grotto]

Wait what

Jollys tornado is absorbed by him?!

@vocal skiff

Today I learned...

[oblique garnet]

@lusty grotto i thought this was common knowledge🤔 you are supposed to let the tornado reach the boss so there wont be million of them

[lusty grotto]

I.. I genuinely didn't know

Everyday you learn something new :)

[livid totem]

noworries, there are still players taht are taking it bad

Like they say they don't need advice and they know it... And yet...

[ebon geyser]

so what buff should i use on my troll, bob, kim? im not geared at all so

[austere oar]

Paku for m+ bwon for raids

Grong for fast and furious

[sick sentinel]

paku

[ebon geyser]

😓

[supple path]

Hum, 400 knot of ancient fury with avoidance vs 405 butcher's block. Thoughts?

[sick sentinel]

how do you have no roles

[trim bay]

Willy shit didn't know that about freehold. My life has been changed

Wholly*

[sick sentinel]

did you like, not do it the first time you went in there?

[warm plinth]

Know what about Freehold 🤔

[sick sentinel]

that you can reset the sword by letting him catch it?

[silk mortar]

Doing that puts your stupid melee at risk though

.<

[warm plinth]

Oh I was confused for a second. You're talking about the Captain Jolly whirling thing

[sick sentinel]

yes

come on dude, it's easy to dodge

[umbral forge]

Kaege were you a pro smash bros melee player

[sick sentinel]

well not a pro but I have gone to some tourneys

and I am the admin of the greek melee discord

why?

and no, I am not Kage the warrior, the known player lmao

[umbral forge]

Are you not Kaege the Warrior

[sweet kettle]

An illusion

What are you hiding

[sick sentinel]

I am NOT this guy

my tag in smash is Unyun, even though everybody calls me Captain

[sweet kettle]

This one looks like a proper gamer

With his glasses as well

[lusty grotto]

lol kaege

new profile pic for kaege

[sick sentinel]

I am not that kage

when I made my warrior

it was a joke

"haha I will make a warrior and I will name him kage"

"hey look this is my alt, Kage the warrior"

they made shamans shit in bfa tho so I had to choose an alt lol

and my guild back then was missing tanks

[lusty grotto]

lmao

[wary lantern]

is there a bigger chance to get Titanforge in low keys? every time i got 5-7 keys for fun, someone get 420, when i do 13-17 keys, no one is getting TF

[undone sun]

luck

[cinder pasture]

Just did a 17 Tol Dagor. The game is telling me something....

[wary lantern]

just finihed freehold 17

😄

the leech is strong with us

[honest pelican]

Grats!

[lusty grotto]

oh good lord

[chilly brook]

Leech>all

[undone sun]

😡

[umbral forge]

grats on your leec

[lusty grotto]

😡

[undone sun]

my condolences on your leech

[primal walrus]

how i play like @fierce juniper

show mog

@fierce juniper

[fierce juniper]

wat

[umbral forge]

https://i.imgur.com/jjMkQ5m.png
I'm trying to charm myself into high keys on my Priest it's not working ;_;

[primal walrus]

can show mog

@fierce juniper

[open bluff]

is spell reflect on mekka no longer a guaranteed thing?

reflected the first np, but got the debuff on the second despite hearing the sound effect and losing spell reflect buff

actually nevermind scrap that; was a bomb that went off in raid right after buster cannon that fucked me

[sick sentinel]

Lmao

[mint adder]

I would invite you @umbral forge

[umbral forge]

neat

I got in

it went horrible cause the DH didn't interrupt on last boss and lost us both 3 and 2 chest

[mint adder]

They probably blamed you too

[umbral forge]

Nah

they were all on voice I have no idea what they were saying

[mint adder]

That’s good

[umbral forge]

It went well

like up to that point

[mint adder]

Are you eu or na?

[umbral forge]

eu

but I just gimped my priest lol

[raven steppe]

is there anyone online who can teach me the basics of protection warriors? newbie here

[mint adder]

Oh gotcha

The icy veins guide is a great start @raven steppe

[umbral forge]

Last raid in my current guild tomorrow, picking up holy to beat both of the guild's holy priests before I leave for a 8/9 guild cause I'm a dip

[mint adder]

Oh eff

I’m still on jaina prog and it’s super lame

[weary veldt]

is incite the pack better than a 2nd deafening crash?

[sick sentinel]

I would take it personally

Even if it's not in raw damage

The extra surv will make it worth

[trim bay]

What's the addon that tells you how much of a percentage an upgrade is

Fam

[warm plinth]

Pawn, but that's not really an addon you should be using.

Especially as a tank.

[trim bay]

No I know. Well i think i do. I was just curious to see what it would say an upgrade is over raw stats.

[open bluff]

pawn is only accurate as your latest stat weight sim

which, even for dps, is only useful for a single upgrade before you have to resim

nobody should be using pawn

[oblique garnet]

@neon tangle What do dks go these days talent wise?

[mortal brook]

generally 1or2/2/2/1/1/2/2or3

[runic python]

For Chemical Burn in ML, how should I deal with it for high keys in ML?

[mortal brook]

reflect every other cast

[west galleon]

reflect hehe

[mortal brook]

lots of IP the other

[runic python]

That’s what I had been doing but man it hits hard

Sr and ip

But it felt so hacky

[oblique garnet]

@runic python The healer should always dispel you when you dont have spell reflect for chemical burn because the boss melees hit way harder and you need to be using demoshout pretty much on cd

[sick sentinel]

a socket on a shield isn't worth even 5 ilvls right?

[warm plinth]

Correct

[sick sentinel]

mmk ty

[oblique garnet]

@warm plinth Jaina died finally so i am unbenched : )

[limpid kite]

Which trinket should use in m+? 400rezan; 400diamond; 415waycrest manor trinket (what procc crit)

[oblique garnet]

Rezan Gore

[trim bay]

@open bluff thanks for that info mate

[full spruce]

I’m in that same boat @oblique garnet Hopefully tomorrow. Almost finished 50 neck on all 6 tanks while I wait

[limpid kite]

@oblique garnet ty

[vocal elm]

You should just pop Avatar on CD and not treat it like a defensive, correct?

[oblique garnet]

@full spruce Yeah was sleeping and after their kill i had like 50 notifications on discord xD

[full spruce]

Grats to you guys!

[bold linden]

@vocal elm for m+: yes, but have it rdy for reaping wave

[vocal elm]

I was more talking for Raid

[warm plinth]

Awesome. Grats Late

[tacit solstice]

@runic python if you set ur hearth to the inkeeper just 5 seconds up the stairs from the ML portal u can hearth out on 2nd boss change to never surrender and zone back in. Only use IP on 3rd and last boss as they dont melee and spell reflect every 2nd on 3rd boss and spam spell reflect on lass boss.

[runic python]

Perfect, thank you

[umbral forge]

@oblique garnet can you double check what just happened I feel like this is bad advice

[oblique garnet]

hm?

@umbral forge its fine

[umbral forge]

Ok thanks

I was like

"I don't know if that's suggested, but I know one who does"

[oblique garnet]

I personally wouldnt do that

ever

[neon tangle]

@oblique garnet for m+ or raids?

Re: DK talents

[oblique garnet]

yes

[neon tangle]

Heartbreaker normally for m+ or lazy raids

Blooddrinker for dps

[oblique garnet]

Do you go runetap or WotN?

[neon tangle]

WotN pretty much always

[oblique garnet]

huh

ok

runetap seemed like it would be good

[neon tangle]

It’s just way harder to use wel

Sometimes useful for specific predictable damage, but it costs runes that could give you more DS

[oblique garnet]

kk

its been so long since ive touched my dk XD

[neon tangle]

Also WotN has nice interactions with DS

It’s an absorb instead of DR

And absorbs count as “damage taken” as far as DS healing goes

[oblique garnet]

tfw i logged on the dk and it still had my old ui from before 8.1 xD

[neon tangle]

Outside of that, only stuff that changes is the moment row (normally slow for m+/opulence/stormwall, wrath walk for raid stuff, grip for islands)

Movement **

[oblique garnet]

yeah

[neon tangle]

And the last row l

Gotta do bonestorm for parses on some fights

[oblique garnet]

purgatory righT?

[neon tangle]

Lol

Red thirst

Is the general raid pick

[oblique garnet]

yeah

i know

[neon tangle]

I’m too tired to detect sarcasm

[oblique garnet]

was just curious if runetap would be better over wotn

@umbral forge wanna help me out?

[umbral forge]

Sup

[oblique garnet]

need some gearing on the dk :^)

[umbral forge]

You gonna burn some fat on your DK?

[livid totem]

runetap is only necessary if you want a specific hit to mitigate (i:e maiden mother solo)

(yeah I know, I'm old, but haven't played much raid for BfA)

[umbral forge]

Sure thing @oblique garnet lemme get out of the bathtub

[oblique garnet]

why the fuck do you have phone on bathtub

[sick sentinel]

@oblique garnet he's a homesexual weebtrash, why wouldn't he

[oblique garnet]

Wow

[sick sentinel]

Jet knows I'm joking, it's fine

[oblique garnet]

not cool

[umbral forge]

Idm lol I use it to look at gayporn as I wax

/s

[sick sentinel]

SEE?

I KNEW

[umbral forge]

to answer your question I bathe for ~4 hours a day so I specifically choose phones with an IP68 water resistance so I can watch shit like streams and Anime and talk on Discord during my baths. I even have a stand lol

[sick sentinel]

That's so not good for you body btw

[umbral forge]

Probably not but eh

@oblique garnet
Jettom-Stormscale

[oblique garnet]

Soon

[umbral forge]

I assume you're tanking, I gimped my Priest before I went to sleep cause I'm not a good person so can't play Shadow until tomorrow

[oblique garnet]

XD

[umbral forge]

Touched holy
Set up traits
Healed a LFR Jaina

I should be best healer in my guild tonight

[sick sentinel]

Lol

[umbral forge]

ah yeah that reminds me

@sand condor we're leaving silverhelms tonight. Gonna talk to Liang and get you a social spot.

[oblique garnet]

Wow

[umbral forge]

he's gonna guillford them

[oblique garnet]

toxic

[sand condor]

Im sure gonna try

[umbral forge]

what's toxic is the guild master. Officer chat has just been a total mess

[sand condor]

I know that feel

[umbral forge]

He's either ignoring it or muted the chat. Hasn't said a thing for 6 days

[sand condor]

Flexed on owo yet?

[umbral forge]

doing that tonight you're tanking 19:30

we're leaving for the new guild at the end of the raid with all of the guild mates there

[sand condor]

Ai ai

[umbral forge]

gonna be sweet

"Okay thanks for coming lads, was fun raiding with you guys but this is the end"

[sand condor]

Guess im coining on..uh...idk

[umbral forge]

I'm gonna heal btw.

[sand condor]

😮

[warm plinth]

So does that mean you're gonna get to participate in a rekill and get CE @oblique garnet ?

[sand condor]

To show owo how to do it?

[oblique garnet]

Yes

[umbral forge]

Gonna see how I compare to him

[warm plinth]

Sick

[umbral forge]

Like

If I can get a feel for what he does wrong and right I can help him improve

[sick sentinel]

UNBENCH

THE

[umbral forge]

LATE

still can't believe I play wow with Kage the Warriorr

[warm plinth]

Would have killed her a month ago if he wasn't benched 😏

[umbral forge]

Warrior*

[sick sentinel]

Zurol?

More like

Zulul

Lmao

[oblique garnet]

@sick sentinel Oi onionknight fight me

[sick sentinel]

Who calls the onionknight?

I just realised, if you do not know the reference, that sounded super stupid

[umbral forge]

Yup

[sick sentinel]

It sounded a lot funnier in my head

[oblique garnet]

kage what key do you have on your mage

[sick sentinel]

Like a 13 sob

[sand condor]

Thats a great key

[umbral forge]

Next step is the Farmer title.

[undone sun]

👏

[sand condor]

Nice

Jettom keys in a bit?

[umbral forge]

yeah waiting on late, I think

[sand condor]

Aight guve me a few mins and ill be on

[oblique garnet]

oh shit @umbral forge yeah i forgot XDD

[umbral forge]

sup

[oblique garnet]

Doing ap sweep then we can go

@umbral forge rdy

[umbral forge]

jettom-stormscale

@sick sentinel wanna see Late try DK again after like 4 months with season 1 azerite with 1 outer trait only?

[oblique garnet]

oi

[sick sentinel]

lmao

[oblique garnet]

I have

only 1 piece with 1 ring

but yes kage please come dps

[sick sentinel]

with what character

I have 3

[oblique garnet]

Lets do 8 fh and see how bad it is

[sick sentinel]

can I bring a friend?

[oblique garnet]

Healer?

[sick sentinel]

hunter

[oblique garnet]

sure

[sick sentinel]

do I bring mage or DH

[oblique garnet]

Yes

[sick sentinel]

okay mage it is

can help you kite :)))

[warm plinth]

Man all the fun shit happens on EU

[oblique garnet]

yup

[sick sentinel]

weep almost went EU

[bold linden]

hey guys what's the actualy relic order for cos first boss for hc ?

is it cron void void trident trident crown ? ^^

[sick sentinel]

it really depends how your group wants to do it IMO

[west galleon]

splitting crown as far apart is ez bc healing cds can be stacked

[old zephyr]

we do crown void void triden trident crown

so healer can blow everything on both crowns

it also "helps" with the fearing adds since you never have to move while they are up

[hallow phoenix]

Got 19k DPS on h cabal tonight. Checked Warcraft logs and some guys are 30k+ (and one at 40k...) How the hell are they going so high

[oblique garnet]

cheesing the damage buff

[hallow phoenix]

You can get it as a tank?

[oblique garnet]

yes

[hallow phoenix]

Ah shit this changes everything

Also for those that don't know you can intercept the tank debuff off your cotank

I find it helpful during tempest or void if your tank is a bit on the squishier side

[umbral forge]

Note to self

If I ever want to learn the ins and out of a healing specc in m+ and memorize the keybindings for every ability
ask @oblique garnet to tank my key

[sick sentinel]

LOL

[umbral forge]

"Finally, I can dri-"
(Over voice)
"Uhh late just pulled 4 packs"

[oblique garnet]

Oi

[umbral forge]

it went well

I had a blast

holy shit that was fun

[sick sentinel]

that was a blast yeah

[umbral forge]

if holy priest was good in m+ I'd play it over shadow

[sick sentinel]

I like flaming @sand condor

[umbral forge]

its fun

you see why I do it

[oblique garnet]

@neon tangle Is dk supposed to be like this really slow paced class where you do nothing for like 2-4 seconds?

[sand condor]

i like flaming you too

i did however not like being top dps without azerite traits for dps

:D

[sick sentinel]

I am 393 ilvl with no idea what the correct traits are

[umbral forge]

I have to keep negging him so he'll stay around me though

[sick sentinel]

and no idea how to play that class

and I was 2k behind you

[oblique garnet]

4

you were 4k behind

[sick sentinel]

2 in the first one

in the second run I got DCed

[oblique garnet]

well yeah

[sick sentinel]

when you pulled like 3 packs

and I had used my cds

[oblique garnet]

thats just unlucky

[austere oar]

fuck this game honestly

[undone sun]

🤣

[spice ferry]

hawt

[umbral forge]

Grats

[oblique garnet]

fang is lit dude

[silk mortar]

BiS

[sick sentinel]

also with the boss resetting, I lost way more damage than what vic lost

because I have 3 min cds and he doesn't

[sand condor]

hehehheheheheh

i still did an average of 24k

so thats not bad at all

[sick sentinel]

WITH LATE'S PULLS

[oblique garnet]

oi

those were small pulls

[umbral forge]

On your Warrior, surely.

[oblique garnet]

and all spread to narnia because you guys had to go ham instantly so i had to try and get aggro

[sick sentinel]

well a fury warrior likes 5 mobs at a time pulls

[umbral forge]

Those wings though

[sick sentinel]

dude those wings

like

wow

[umbral forge]

Pristine play

I just know my Tauren is growing on you guys

[oblique garnet]

no

[willow scarab]

timed a 21 shrine by 30 seconds

officially in the 2600 club

[sick sentinel]

grats!

[orchid token]

@oblique garnet yep p much

definitely not a GCD locked spec

as long as you're not overcapping runes it doesn't hurt to do nothing for a couple GCDs especially if it lets you pool resources for something coming up

[lapis pine]

Good morning, I started a new prot warrior and I'm wondering whats the best azerite trait to get. Is there a place where I can look that's reliable? I checked the pins but found nothing

[oblique garnet]

#268491842637660160

Icyveins

[lapis pine]

Thanks 🙂 forgot to check that channel sorry

[civic citrus]

is this trinket any good for prot?

im running 420 rezans + that

for m+ ofc

[ionic fern]

Yes,it's good for m+. :)

[civic citrus]

decent, thanks 😃

[sick sentinel]

it's really good

[civic citrus]

so rezans + gore crusted is a good combo?

is there anything more viable than rezans? or it rezans just too good

for dps ofc, not surv

[spice ferry]

At 420, probably not

[sick sentinel]

you are not replacing that 420 rezans any time soon

and gore+rezan is a great combo

[reef holly]

hello is there a list of things you can spell reflect per dungeon?

[sick sentinel]

#268491842637660160

[reef holly]

just saw it thanks

[hushed sand]

Does the OHW from Manor is good ? comparing to a normal one with stats

[sweet kettle]

@hushed sand no

If it's the same ilvl with a weapon with stats don't pick it

[sand condor]

actually

on single target

it simmed better for me

much better

[hallow phoenix]

I just wish I could get WM to drop the trinket

[paper holly]

yo guys is cyclone strike on the first TOS boss still reflectable ?

[sick sentinel]

yes

did it yesterday

[paper holly]

did you one shot the boss ? ^^

[sick sentinel]

I did like half a mil

or so

[paper holly]

beautiful. Should be cast on a friendly member though no ?

[jovial haven]

if you're lookim at logs or meters for it, look for spell cast and damage taken by boss i believe

[orchid token]

yes if you're the target you'll die

[paper holly]

alright ty

however if you're the target there's no way you can avoided if i recall correctly

as the boss moves with you no ?

correct me if im wrong

[jovial haven]

it has to be cast on someone other than you

but you can move out of it

[paper holly]

Ah alright cheers mates

im betting for now we will still remain meta in 8.2 despite the 50% dmg nerf

that is if no further big nerfs come up

[jovial haven]

its not 50% there is a pin about it

[sick sentinel]

It's more like 10%

[paper holly]

Even better

[fringe anvil]

what trinket will u use
400 Rezan's Gleaming Eye
400 Vial of Animated Blood
400 Gore-Crusted Butcher's Block
405 Jes' Howler
for M+ 18-20

[ionic fern]

Rezan+gore would be my go-to

[orchid token]

Gore + vial

would be mine

but i really dont rate rezans

[old zephyr]

Rezan + gore

[willow scarab]

Rezan + gore

[paper holly]

How should i tank yazma on a +15 ? Corner to corner ?

[orchid token]

pug or coordinated group

[paper holly]

right from the start ?

pug

[orchid token]

yeah so its more or less gonna be a shitshow and any plan will fall apart by 70%

[jovial haven]

i always use the edge of the entire room as needed

[orchid token]

no matter what you do

but some general tips is keep her on the edges of the room at all times, try to move in vaguely the same direction either clockwise or counter

remember she always does a cast right after the souls go out

which the dps wont be able to kick

so you have to get that

[jovial haven]

thats a tank kick by design

[orchid token]

yep

but its really easy to get caughtu p in trying to move the boss around for spider dodging or the souls & be out of range for it

so just something to be aware of

[jovial haven]

yep

[paper holly]

alright cheers ill try