protection

[lusty grotto]

lets calm down here guys

[undone sun]

🥖

[lusty grotto]

lmao

[sand egret]

yeah, stronger than reallly old bread

[undone sun]

Yeah

[sand egret]

i'm talking that bread you book a dentist appointment before eating it

[lusty grotto]

rofl

[mortal brook]

making it light as a feather and stronger than any mortal-forged axe

[sand egret]

^ how I order my bread

[undone sun]

🤣

[sand egret]

"oh...and extra butter"

[lusty grotto]

people want that pleb hellscream axe, yet god warrior Broxigar smacked sargeras with wood sticks

oh god that sounded wrong

[sand egret]

basically beat his ass with a 2x4

so when you think about it

Broxigar is basically the Rock in Walking Tall

[mortal brook]

nay, was the only mortal that could penetrate Sargeras

[lusty grotto]

its why hes our God Warrior

[sand egret]

yep

ironic, as our slogan at a time was once "Block the Rock"

[lusty grotto]

papa Broxigar father of Varian and Saurfang. Yes hes the father of his brother, and an alliance dude.

if only arms warriors were a bit more like him nowadays 😦

take THIS utility on your face

[sand egret]

the true warrior dps spec will rise.

soon.

[lusty grotto]

hero class? pfft... 3 hero classes in one + a GOD

[sand egret]

not super lore-deep and all, but the lore behind the Aldrachi Warblades is fucking dope as hell

[lusty grotto]

me waiting on arms buffs

[sand egret]

real Brox vibes

[mortal brook]

kinda looking forward to the visions for arms. rando spinnies

[undone sun]

Skeleton race when

[lusty grotto]

papa broxigar show those devs the way!

[sand egret]

New Allied Race for Alliance

[lusty grotto]

lmao

you wanted more elves? heres some skelly g's

[sand egret]

i'm the only one here who wants a Grummel allied race

[lusty grotto]

i gotta be honest blade

[sand egret]

beat the shit outta some peeps with some luckydos

[lusty grotto]

what the fuck man

[undone sun]

What the fuck is a grummel

[sand egret]

!!!!

[mortal brook]

whoa

[lusty grotto]

the dudes on the xmog mount

[undone sun]

Oh

[sand egret]

the Yak people from MoP

[undone sun]

That makes sense

[sand egret]

aka the best race ever

[lusty grotto]

🚪 🏃

[sand egret]

BringYaksBak

[mortal brook]

grummles carry grummlepacks

[lusty grotto]

im honestly kinda tired of allied additions

like

[sand egret]

i mean we're tired of you, but we deal.

[lusty grotto]

i really dont give a shit anymore lol

[mortal brook]

but horde need vulpera

spread the furry bullshit

[lusty grotto]

that's why i put stewart the fish in my profile blade 😦

[sand egret]

classic Stew

[inland mesa]

the horde need furies material

[sand egret]

Trevor's Troupe

new allied race

slash hero class

[lusty grotto]

with a dolly mount!

[inland mesa]

We need a dragon race

you only get a dolly mount if it plays the theme song the whole time you're on it

[lusty grotto]

vulpera racial is randomly singing even if you have music muted

extra loud for hostile factions

i'd roll it asap

[inland mesa]

during BGs when you die

to confuse and stun the enemies who have smelled your blood

[lusty grotto]

lol

[sand egret]

World of Warcraft: Anarchy. No factions. All fighting.

[inland mesa]

we're gonna make up and kill n'zoth ok?

[lusty grotto]

i... i would like that

[inland mesa]

World of Warcraft: Lovecraft - 1 faction, all furry

[lusty grotto]

but again im biased because im kind of an anarchist

[sand egret]

if they didn't base the entire franchise around two factions, I'd say that'd be dope

[inland mesa]

come scriff wif me

[sand egret]

i mean i'd say with all the old god's shit....it basically is Lovecraft

have ya SEEN the faceless

[lusty grotto]

speaking of lovecraft

[inland mesa]

I dunno we gonna gang up on ole slyvanas soon

[lusty grotto]

the best lovecraft - based game is Bloodbourne, prove me wrong

[inland mesa]

For Seige of Orgrimmar 2: Electric Bugaloo

[sand egret]

oooo false

there's a really neat horror stealth game

[exotic spoke]

N’Zoth - enough said. He just wants you to become the best you can be

[sand egret]

that takes place in a lovecraftian universe

[lusty grotto]

uhh

hmm

[sand egret]

I liked that one

[lusty grotto]

amnesia?

[sand egret]

mebbe?

[inland mesa]

can I choose to side with N'Zoth and Sylvanas and just kill everyone?

[sand egret]

i forget

:rimshot:

[exotic spoke]

I’m going to see how long I can keep the gift of nZoth

[lusty grotto]

them dad jokes

yo

be honest which old god would you side with

[inland mesa]

I haven't even finished the quest line, I was neck 50 and didn't bother

[sand egret]

Yssar'j

[lusty grotto]

C'thulu, i mean C'thun

[inland mesa]

Azeroth

[lusty grotto]

Yoggy

[inland mesa]

😉

[grizzled light]

Anyone know what allows you to skip a smash on the final boss of motherlode? sometimes he will do 2 sometimes its all 3, i've seen him only do one a time or 2, is this rng? that fight is so long on tyr already lol

[exotic spoke]

NZoth did things to me... with that tentacle.....

[sand egret]

has to do with it hitting a pet, if I recall @grizzled light

[lusty grotto]

i think i would side with Yoggy to be honest

[grizzled light]

well if thats it then mage ele doesn't work, cause our mage hit his ele twice in our 17 last night with no success

[sand egret]

=(, I'm speaking from like heresay so general warning to basically never take what I say seriously

[lusty grotto]

i honestly have no idea

but i have noticed that too

[sand egret]

i'm like the Whispers of this discord. Just a bunch off nonsense

[exotic spoke]

No clue but like nim I’ve noticed it

‘You.... are... already.... dead’

[lusty grotto]

like im 100% he should hit 3 pillars

but sometimes he does 2

[exotic spoke]

‘Your friends.... will betray you.......’

[inland mesa]

ha, what friends?

[exotic spoke]

I honestly can’t remember what else he whispers to you in AQ

[inland mesa]

Will you go out with me circle one
Yes No Pie

[sand egret]

"Eye've got my eye on you!"

[spiral nova]

is a shield considered a weapon in the emissary reward?

[lusty grotto]

good lord

[sand egret]

yes @spiral nova

[spiral nova]

Cheers

[exotic spoke]

Anyone know what NA Alliance emissary is for today?

[lusty grotto]

storms wake

[exotic spoke]

Dictates if I do it now lol

You wouldn’t happen to be my favorite undercover prot warrior and tell me what the reward is would you?

[lusty grotto]

holy fuck i just noticed the blatant shit wowhead did

[exotic spoke]

What’d they do?

[lusty grotto]

they put up an article along the lines of "sylvanas [keyword of hugely popular movie that opened this week]"

they wanna get those spicy hits

[umbral forge]

@oblique garnet ok so we have a 13 freehold and a 14 freehold now RIP

https://i.imgur.com/LubkSi8.png what the fuck am I witnessing

[lusty grotto]

uhh

i identified the error

you appear to be running with a tank DH

i know its a DH because its purple

[sick sentinel]

lol

[lusty grotto]

also has a shield

[umbral forge]

yeah it is

Kaege wanna tank a Freehold?

[sick sentinel]

no but leeroy can

[umbral forge]

leeroy?

[sick sentinel]

@full violet

[full violet]

dw

I tank better than i fury

[umbral forge]

eeh

nvm

my group doesn't want to

[sick sentinel]

he successfully tanked a 13 boralus

lol

[umbral forge]

they all just broke down

[sick sentinel]

well

[umbral forge]

OH WELL

[sick sentinel]

we have a healer

and she's high af

[vocal skiff]

For some reason, my nameplates bugged off

I can't see only enemy ones

Whenever I turn them on

[lusty grotto]

did get tired of your shit?

[vocal skiff]

Friendly ones appear

[umbral forge]

I mean I'm up for keys

but I'm still learning spriest so I'm bad at it

and

the entire group just fell apart

RIP.

[lusty grotto]

yeah i think shift +V turns off the friendly ones

[vocal skiff]

Yes, that is it apparently

I knew that I must have pressed something wrong

lol

[oblique garnet]

@umbral forge

Not now

[umbral forge]

Yah

Just telling you

we have 3 freehold keys

for tomorrow

every key we did turned into Freehold

[full violet]

the dream

[vocal skiff]

Is there any week you don't want to pull 3 pack at the beginning of FH?

[umbral forge]

every week you have a rogue to shroud

[vocal skiff]

Eh, even with shroud

[sand condor]

hey jett

[vocal skiff]

I find it better to kill it and then shroud to boss

[sand condor]

im like

really drunk

so im sorry i cant tank for you

[sick sentinel]

@vocal skiff the only "bad" week would be sanguine otherwise it's up to the group and how u want to get ur %

Poyo

[vocal skiff]

I suppose explosive can be pretty bad as well

[sick sentinel]

Not really

They don't limit ur space to move around

If explosives are a worry bring an ele

But even then a SS and Deva can kill one

Also u get free VR if u kill it which most times u are

So u can use that to help kill the others and heal

[vocal skiff]

Oh I know explosives aren't bad, but in that pull in particular I find it a bit hectic

between moving out of green shit and facing the mobs that jump behind you

and the enforcer throwing you around

This may be a l2p issue though

[exotic spoke]

You can los the explosives too

Basically it’s sanguine and maybe explosives. But def sanguine

[celest field]

you can LOS that? didnt know that

[exotic spoke]

Maybe bolstering if you get the mech instead of CCing it

Pretty sure you can. Like99%

[sand egret]

that triple pack in the beginning is going to be awfully hard to LoS

[exotic spoke]

Just in general and specifically for that pack I meant the ones at the beginning which can spawn back where the packs start

[amber garnet]

I'm just starting to learn prot warrior and tanking in general, and, i'm not sure what trinkets I'm supposed to be using. For now it has been Lingering sporepods 400ilvl and diamond-laced refracting prism 400. My other options are Alchemy trinket 415, rezan's gleaming eye 400, jes' howler 405, razdunk's big red button 410 with socket, Gore-crusted butcher's block 405 or knot of ancient fury 400 with socket.

Any help appreciated and sorry for the wall of text

[exotic spoke]

Don’t use sporepods

Ever

M+ or or raids?

[neon tangle]

idk, I don't like pulling the first 3 on necro weeks either

most of the other shit in the instance you can kite, but big dudes don't give a fuck about your slows

[undone sun]

sporepods is trash

[neon tangle]

@sick sentinel @vocal skiff

[supple plover]

Sporepod is best used aa expulsom

[amber garnet]

M+

And here I was thinking it might be useful due to reaping ;_;

[sick shell]

Might I ask why not to use sporepods? I ask but I don't have another trinket to replace it with

[undone sun]

the effect basically does nothing

[amber garnet]

A friend of mine told my it was one of the better trinkets for prot warrrior, Guess he's been mistaken

[undone sun]

if you have literally nothing else at comparable ilevel, it's a str stick

[exotic spoke]

But he has a 415 alchemy so there’s that

Or a 405 howler or butchers block... rezans.... etc

[amber garnet]

so which one would you suggest to use?

[neon tangle]

@sick shell It's fine if that's all you have, it's "bad" relative to other trinkets at the same ilvl

[exotic spoke]

M+ or raids van?

[amber garnet]

m+

[neon tangle]

but 75% of so of the stat value of a trinket normally comes from the mainstat budget

[tranquil herald]

hey guys, which loa is favored in m+?

[supple plover]

Probably alch or rezan since you are new

[exotic spoke]

I like my howler, I understand why people don’t. Then again my howler is also a 415 socketed one.

Rezans or butchers block over sporepods depending on the week

[sand egret]

Survival trinkets are judged around reliability and potential effectiveness. Sporepods is a) RNG healing and b) not very strong when it does heal. It's just not super practical for what it does and it gives up too much for that. @sick shell That's why it's generally considered "bad". The Bwom trinket shares the same woes

[exotic spoke]

Erm sorry I think I’m thinking of a different trinket rather than block

[tranquil herald]

uhh, i meant the racial

[exotic spoke]

Andreas we were talking to someone else

[tranquil herald]

a

mb

Kinda got confused since you mentioned Rezan 😛

[exotic spoke]

I don’t know Loas as I don’t play filthy horde

Gleaming eye 😃

[amber garnet]

Rezan's it is then, thanks

[neon tangle]

@amber garnet I'd prolly do the 415 alch stone and the butcher block

block is 5 ilvls higher

[exotic spoke]

Part of it is preference. I like my diamond. So I’d use that

[neon tangle]

crit is great in m+, sims higher for AoE, and it's 5 ivls of extra stats anyways

[exotic spoke]

Truth

Knot (though 5 ilvls lower) being controllable is nice

[neon tangle]

1minute CD tho

[exotic spoke]

Still up for every other avatar if you have two on use 1.5 or lower CD trinket

Sadbox maybe you know - or someone else - is there a guide to the best offensive trinkets for m+

I know it’s two 1.5 minute CD trinkets but not sure which ones

[neon tangle]

I'd just look at bloodmallet and/or sim it

[exotic spoke]

Fuck, I knew I forgot bloodmallet

[neon tangle]

herodamage also does dungeonslice for however accurate that is

[exotic spoke]

Hrmmm interesting

[small nexus]

Someone tell me the bis race 🤔

[sand egret]

LFD, stack that nuke. Profit.

[trail brook]

Any tips for HC jaina as prot war?

[inner moth]

@oblique garnet got that aswell 😄

[oblique garnet]

@modern brook i did the raal pull on 19 except this time it triggered reaping right after xD

Actually spicy

[lusty grotto]

free 111gold

[vocal skiff]

We were near the freehold arena and I said "start rp"

And then pulled another pack

Resto druid goes cat stealthes and start, while I am dying

And we had a rogue

"I forgot we had a rogue tbh"

Feels bad

[lusty grotto]

hahaha

i gotta be honest

i wasnt expecting that at all

cue benny hill theme song

[junior ivy]

thrift store find today

@undone sun

[undone sun]

:pogchamp: very nice

[junior ivy]

50 cents for the 3

lol

[sand condor]

I

Am jealous

[oblique garnet]

monkaS

[silk mortar]

👏

[lusty grotto]

Getting some quality loot today late

[oblique garnet]

i always forget

to put fury loot spec

[lusty grotto]

For the expulsom machine

[neon tangle]

@lusty grotto well shit I have to go sub on my rogue now

[tidal igloo]

lurkers any good for prot/

[trail brook]

Whats better for m+, Opulence trinket or Restless Cabal?

For this week

[thorn fiber]

That TF though.

[junior ivy]

hi

im bored

what can i do

[oblique garnet]

resub

[junior ivy]

buy me a sub

[willow scarab]

@trail brook aren’t both trinkets from Uu’nat? Idol is strong but does noticeably take away from your damage

[junior ivy]

someone play a game with meeee

[timber nest]

@trail brook idk if anyone answered your jaina question. P1 you can use last stand when you tank and it should last till 8-9 stacks. The other tank should taunt by then anyhow. Next time you tank just shield wall and she will transition by then assuming you have decent dps. All her ice shards are blockable and just remember the ice circles in the transition go through the same spots every pull

[exotic spoke]

@neon tangle Why you do that to me 😦

[neon tangle]

If it makes you feel better I don't have any daggers

so it's kinda garbo right now

It was an upgrade from a 355 though, so... still... sorta an upgrade

only 70 ilvls

[umbral forge]

::

;_;

Do I look idiot?

[undone sun]

im not allowed to say yes

🙃

[trail brook]

Ty all for the info

[oblique garnet]

@umbral forge nub

[umbral forge]

what

[oblique garnet]

Did you deplete fh

[umbral forge]

no

[astral crystal]

jettom

[oblique garnet]

So you went behind my back to do it

[astral crystal]

you look idiot

[umbral forge]

Na

I did one of 3 keys

the lowest

I have a 14 and a 13 for tomorrow

told you I had 3

anyways heading to slop. catch ya guys tomorrow

[lusty grotto]

is it me or

is pugging like completely dead since wednesday

[oblique garnet]

Nah

There were loads of people looking to do 20+ keys on eu again

[errant shuttle]

hi guys

monkey war here

for ad 19

would u guys lust rezan first

or lsut the left pack

and just hit rezan like a punching bag

[oblique garnet]

Yes

[errant shuttle]

uhh

which one?

[oblique garnet]

Both

[exotic spoke]

You should be doing rezan literally first

With lust

[umbral forge]

Can't sleep
Want to do keys
declined
declined
declined

I miss Halls of Valor

[lusty grotto]

id rather get declined than get invited to DoA groups 😦

[umbral forge]

I mean sure I'd much rather have a smooth run where I'm not the top interrupter as a shadow priest (the fact this has happened 5 times haunts me) but shit

I just need gear.

I need a new trinket and a new weapon and a new chestpiece.
Namely the chestpiece from Champions. It's eluded me for far too long.

[lusty grotto]

oh you're on your sp

farmer cow

[olive merlin]

anyone use mchimbas trinket?

[umbral forge]

yeah if I was on my warr I'd get a dungeon asap

[lusty grotto]

no mchimbas is crap

[umbral forge]

@olive merlin that trinket is 1 expulsom and nothing else.

[olive merlin]

was just curious.. I got the grong trinket earlier and just got this one now with a socket.

[umbral forge]

Yah, just telling you where it belongs.

[lusty grotto]

grong trinket is another one that is meh

its ok for ST

thats it

but at least its not as bad as mchimbas

[olive merlin]

have a butcher block too but its only 395

[inland mesa]

time two 20s, get two shrine 21s FML

[potent anvil]

Shrine is easy this week. Timed 20 and 21. And had plenty of time to spare.

Like 5 or 6 mins under.

[trim bay]

I pugged one and it was worse then HIV

[coral jasper]

it's because ppl dont save their stuns for >30% or bring a soothe able class .. or they do and the fucker is MM and not BM gg

• coordination on interrupts 😛

[crisp pecan]

Damn, need to get shrine 20+ this week

It is like walk in the park

[sick sentinel]

@oblique garnet I did one of his freeholds

The 13

[lusty grotto]

i think im gonna invite ferals to KR from now on

especially when there's no rdruids with mass root

or at least i think i found an amazing feral

[unborn island]

What do we think of Briny Barnacle for M+m

?

I want to use it as I have 400 Block/400 Socketed Rezan, got Barnacle at 410

[austere oar]

Dont use it

[ionic fern]

I'd use rezan/block over it as well.

[unborn island]

I thought that might be the case, guess I was hoping it might be good for DPS like the Jaina one

[ionic fern]

@lusty grotto just kill the adds on first boss?:o

[drowsy salmon]

about professions, apart from alchemy duration buff all the others are only flavour choice?

[sick sentinel]

Barnacle is okay

for ST dps

only

so sim it. might be a use in logs in raids 🤷

[outer dew]

Engineering is nice

Random knock back, if you're ne you can smeld res for pugs

Frieds are also useful for pulling invisible packs @drowsy salmon

[drowsy salmon]

frieds?

[outer dew]

Ground AoE iten you can throw

[sick sentinel]

I haven't thought of using F.R.I.E.D. tbh

but I have communication and dps that know what to do

[outer dew]

I mean, ifs better than a blizzard, star fall, or dh bugging some stealthed packs

It's more for the sake or consistency

[sick sentinel]

what about flare tho

[still aurora]

Ppl using spark cap on engi helm?

The 5% less dmg taken

[sick sentinel]

hell no

gismo dude

[still aurora]

I guess primary and haste is preddy nice

[sick sentinel]

you have to take into account

that by using eng helm

you are losing on 1 BoM

[still aurora]

Yeh

New toon

Not many options atm

[sick sentinel]

I am still using eng helm by choice tbh

[next drift]

is the crit block chance independent from block chance or is it a second roll

[sick sentinel]

second roll

[next drift]

k ty

[sick sentinel]

but you want to have 100% block anyway when you are getting hit

that's why keeping SB up is so important

or last stand with the bolster talent

[next drift]

of course, just wondering about the mastery block

[sand condor]

Im jealous kaege, dps that know what to do, those are rare

[rigid tundra]

is there a stat caps for prot warrior

[sick sentinel]

#268491842637660160

@sand condor to get dps that know what to do, you have to know what to do as well

so start working on that

[rigid tundra]

ty

[sand condor]

Oof got me there

I am still a padawan too

[mental scarab]

okej got vial 425 400 diamond 400 rezan should i craft the 415 alchemy trinket? or run vial/diamn vial/rezan?

[sick sentinel]

I would use vial/alchemy stone

an alch stone would be a noticeable upgrade over a 400 rezan

especially if you use healthpots in mplus

which you should

[mental scarab]

yea i am but the absorbed from diamond is huge<_<

[sick sentinel]

even if you would not craft the alch trinket

you would still go vial/rezan

ESPECIALLY this week

[mental scarab]

xD

[errant shuttle]

Anyone ever have the earth wall totem bug the fuck out and evade

Biggest slap to the face

[mental scarab]

mhm dont i just craft the 385 and the recipe goes to 400?

nvm in retard gound it

[nimble nest]

I got a question, what would be better for a shield, 420 with no socket or 415 with a socket? The 420 one right?

[mint adder]

420

Yeah the block on shields are really important meaning ilvl is bis

But, honestly ilvl is bis in most situations

[glacial flint]

any idea why is "never surrender" used over "bolster" by nerfclap on siege key this week?

ill think the dungeon is more less blockable stuff ?

@nimble nest ilvl > socket because armor / block value

[ornate wagon]

what is better, earthlink or blood siphon?

[sick sentinel]

blood siphon

[sand condor]

leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeech

[ornate wagon]

im rerolling a piece on tuesday, both my shoulders and chest have IF and BoM, both have Moment of Glory as their best inside trait, so i have to base my decision around earthlink or blood siphon

[sick sentinel]

blood siphon 100%

[junior ivy]

hi

[sick sentinel]

hello cat

[junior ivy]

whatcha doin

im missin wow lately 😭

ever since i bought my cups 😭

[sick sentinel]

getting pissed rn

just threw my key into the garbage

I am getting random DCs

[warped mirage]

is rezan a good trinket to keep for tanking?

[sand condor]

yes

[warped mirage]

are there any trinkets worth trading it out for is the haste just to good to keep

ive been farming 10 atals to replace my 370 one but still havent upgraded it

[lime mantle]

for dps set (ST):
Unstable Flames or earthlink or Crystalline?

[umbral forge]

@oblique garnet want to do Freehold?

[junior ivy]

i will

[umbral forge]

aren't you US

[junior ivy]

canada

[umbral forge]

@sand condor King's Rest 14?

[sand condor]

no thanks ):

[umbral forge]

get on we're doing m+

@sick sentinel can you tell vic he's being a pussy for not wanting to do a 14 King's Rest?

[sick sentinel]

HEY @sand condor

[sand condor]

hi kaege

[sick sentinel]

WANNA STOP BEING A FUCKING PUSSY?

[sand condor]

but but..

i dont have a choice do i

[umbral forge]

correct

[ionic fern]

o.o

[junior ivy]

anyone wanna playt warframe with me

[willow scarab]

Doom Shroom WQ is up if anyone wants a 425 BiS titanforge to screenshot and post here

Thanks bloodmallet for setting unreal expectations for us regular players

[vocal skiff]

I just want a healer that doesn't die in first boss of siege

[sick sentinel]

LOL

[willow scarab]

It's ok if he didn't die the raging spotter would have punched you for 2x your hp in the hallway before 3rd boss

Eventually the key was gone

[umbral forge]

Do King's Rest 14
It's going well, have a shitty mage DPS but that's about it.
Get to second boss at 15 mins
Hunter dies to poison dot in second boss room
"This shit isn't worth my time"
leaves

I'm fucking done playing with people on the shitty ass fucking German realms. They can diaf for all I care.

[willow scarab]

the trick is to only do keys with people you know

[sick sentinel]

like my shitty mage

or my shitty dh

[umbral forge]

Kaege

Not like your shitty mage.

[sick sentinel]

LOL

[umbral forge]

That's boss damage.

First Boss King's Rest.

[junior ivy]

😦

let me play

[sick sentinel]

we re not holing you back, cat

you are holding youself back

[junior ivy]

i dont wanna pa yfor a sub lol

ugh

cause i dunno how much ill play

[sand condor]

I did good right jettom

be jettoms tank, pull the entire second bossroom with reap. Feels good top dps

[umbral forge]

Vic I just had a prot paladin that was

fucking good

[sick sentinel]

LOL

[umbral forge]

I wish you were more like the Russian tank I just had Vic.
He pulled reapings unto bosses constantly and we didn't wipe once. Had 100% control.

[sick sentinel]

oh wow jet

you're actually the worst

[umbral forge]

what

[sick sentinel]

nevermind

[umbral forge]

wow

[ornate flint]

hey guys

why is it that so few warriors use impeding victory talent

20% max hp heal/ 30 sec cooldown is exactly as much as guardian druid frenzied regen heal (current one as in next patch it's getting buffed)

can't be used in a raid boss fight or what?

[umbral forge]

Because it competes with Into The Fray

[ornate flint]

3% dmg reduction is better than 20% max hp on 30 sec cd having in mind warriors have 0 self heal?

[umbral forge]

that's Punish.

[ornate flint]

oh ya

[umbral forge]

Into The Fray is ~15% haste with nearly 100% up time.

[ornate flint]

but for a raid boss single target

gives much less benefit right?

[umbral forge]

no, Into The Fray is ~15% haste with nearly 100% up time in raids

reduced up time just means less haste. It's at least 3%, which by itself is big

[ornate flint]

right now i get it

thx

[slim cosmos]

is there a better world quest than calligraphy??

it might be the only one I prefer over "kill 1 guy"

[austere oar]

Into the fray also procs on allies that's why its bis even for ST

[sand condor]

Jettom: “oh i didnf invite a rouge so we kill the golems in kr”

Vic: but whatabout reaping with the bosses

Jettom: too bad

[umbral forge]

hahahaah

[sick sentinel]

???????

oh

lol

[umbral forge]

Should have taken a Rogue over that fucking mage tbh that's on me

[sand condor]

This motherfucker says his paladin was great when he messed me up kek

Yep

That mage was topkek

[umbral forge]

but its like

when you get a Pandaren Mage

it's either some top tier guy super chill 30 year old father guy @honest canopy style there to have a good time.

Or like your most super casual player who just presses whatever lights up

[sick sentinel]

you are not looking for a chill guy to have a good time

you are looking for somebody to do damage

so both of those options are bad

[sand condor]

Yes

[honest canopy]

@umbral forge 💕💕💕

[sand condor]

Jettommessed up

[umbral forge]

eh my second group was fine

[sick sentinel]

so you are saying you got carried?

[umbral forge]

n-no

[sand condor]

Yes

He got carried

[honest canopy]

Haha

[burnt beacon]

hey , can anyone tell me what Best 2 trinkets? all the other trinkets r 400ilvl

[lusty grotto]

use windows key + shift + s

and paste here after that

cause that's abysmally small

[sand condor]

Vial+block if goingf dps

[sand condor]

(Also itemlevel is important)

Oh

Burst dps madness

Rage+vial

[lusty grotto]

yay windows key + shift + s saves the day

[sand condor]

Grongs is shit

[burnt beacon]

lol @lusty grotto

[lusty grotto]

grongs and shitpods into the expulson machine

well at least shitpods

you can keep grongs

[sand condor]

Yeet that out

[lusty grotto]

its alright for ST dps

[sand condor]

It fucks you

[burnt beacon]

i am asking for M+

would should i use

[lusty grotto]

yes, destroy sporepods

for all content

[sand condor]

Rage Vial for confident kets

[lusty grotto]

RAGE + Block imo

[sand condor]

Hmm

[lusty grotto]

for M+ at least

[sand condor]

Prism+block if you’re goinf high keys

Id you feel confident in a dungeon

You can swap rage/vial with prism

[lusty grotto]

Wait

[honest canopy]

@sand condor bwosandi was The most used in booth timetrails n The finals

I know its considered shit but

[lusty grotto]

When we say RAGE, we mean amplitude generator

[sand condor]

He doest have bwonsadi

[lusty grotto]

Not grong's

[sand condor]

Never grongs

It makes you immoblie

Refuses to let yoi clap

[honest canopy]

Gigavolt is luve

[lusty grotto]

Again I would recommend mekka's RAGE + block

[sand condor]

I’ll agree

With nik

Mik

[honest canopy]

I use it all The time

[sand condor]

Nik

Nim*

Ffs

[burnt beacon]

so for high keys i go with prism+rage , otherwise i should go with rage+block?

[lusty grotto]

Vial can't compete with block imo

In m+ at least

Yeah I would say that

[honest canopy]

Friends

[burnt beacon]

thanks for helping all ,

what about rezan if it drops?

[honest canopy]

5x prot m+ Monday night 1830?

[lusty grotto]

Rezan over RAGE for defensiveness

RAGE over rezan for on demand burst

[burnt beacon]

good

[lusty grotto]

again when we say RAGE it's gigavolt

not grong's trinket

[burnt beacon]

yeah i know xD

[sand condor]

Who said 5x prot m+

Im in

[sick sentinel]

The guy should use Rage+gore block

[lusty grotto]

yeah thats what i said

[sand condor]

^

[warm furnace]

What's the shield that turns blue during last stand?

[sharp night]

motherlode one

[warm furnace]

ty

[astral crystal]

i'll give your mother a lode

[long peak]

i dont tank very often or crazy high keys, just around 15. I have a jeshowler and a rezans, should i switch one of those out for a opulence trinket?

speaking in terms of m+ tanking

[silk mortar]

I would go Rezans and Opu. Both strong and good 😃

[slim cosmos]

worth dropping 5 levels to go from a haste/mast ring to haste/crit?

[sick sentinel]

not defensively, and for offence sim it

[dense flame]

So for some odd reason the tree boss in WCM seems to be my nemesis. I don’t struggle too much with any other boss. I think im not playing it right. I tend to have a lapse in SB during the 30-50 stack range. If I’m not resetting am I supposed to delay SB during early stacks?

[lusty grotto]

hmm

what key is this?

at around 50 you will have huge gaps yeah

[umbral forge]

@sand condor keys get in

[lusty grotto]

im honestly playing it safe this week on that boss

[sand condor]

im having a mental breakdown so not now

sory

[lusty grotto]

and resetting at 40-50

i do let the healer know cause the aoe unprepared can rape people

and i only reset just after we kill roots

this is in pugs at least

[lucid bough]

got the lurker trinket - no go for prot right? vial should be better without getting the damage taken debuff

[lusty grotto]

with friends i just cycle defensives on gaps

[honest canopy]

Thing is tree boss is so ez

Just reset him o. The fires outisde of the ring

It works

[lucid bough]

and destroys your group hp and healer

[lusty grotto]

you should be fine resetting once

[lucid bough]

I need to reset 2 times on tyrannical

[lusty grotto]

at 20 id say 2 times yeah

[lucid bough]

lurker trinket - new raid dps one - no go for prot right?

should not be better than vial , takes like 25% of your hp

[sick sentinel]

vial is a trap lol

if you know what you are doing it's miles better

[lucid bough]

hum

i have it on my brmaster too

and on brew i can use safely

[sick sentinel]

because you might be taking like half your health in damage in a span of 30 seconds

[lucid bough]

on warrior takes chunks of damage

[sick sentinel]

but you are crit blocking everything

[west turtle]

what is UF?

[lusty grotto]

unstoppable force

[west turtle]

ah makes sense

[oblique garnet]

or unstable flames

[tepid raptor]

[Vial of Animated Blood] or [Ramping Amplitude Gigavolt Engine] ?

Vial is 400 ilvl and RAGE is 385

Rage is OP AF tbh

[pure cobalt]

Is there an amount of haste where Devastator beats Booming Voice?

[undone sun]

offensively, on Single target, it beats it regardless

well, it's competitive on ST

defensively you wouldn't ever go deva

[tepid raptor]

So what would you say? Vial or Rage? I got VIAL/RAGE/PRISM

[sick sentinel]

vial

[forest raven]

hi guys quick question, what spell do i need to reflect on the first boss of sethraliss ? thanks

[undone sun]

cyclone strike, it's mentioned in the spell reflect spreadsheet in #268491842637660160

[forest raven]

oh thanks

[undone sun]

cannot be targeting you for it to be reflected, which is also mentioned

[junior ivy]

thyme how do you know so much prot when youi dont even play anym,ore

[oblique garnet]

he is sitting on this chat

for 20 hours

[weary thorn]

He's like Wikipedia , just absorbing and doling out info without needing to apply it

[safe fractal]

I am currently wearing Xalzaix's Veiled Eye ilvl370. I just got to the point where i can get one of the pvp trinkets (ilvl385). Should i replace it with one of them and if so which one? Was looking at Sinister Gladiator's Insignia or Safeguard.

Jes' Howler is my other trinket (ilvl400) if that matters in the decision

[daring patrol]

did anyone get a bonkers ticking clock while it was up?

[undone sun]

@junior ivy i still have my sources of information ¯_(ツ)_/¯

one doesn't need to keep playing the game to maintain the knowledge they received, one of the reasons i think having an active sub to be qualified for SF is incredibly dumb

[oblique garnet]

What even is the criteria for being a SF @undone sun ?

[primal sable]

Active sub?

[undone sun]

theoretically, yes

[primal sable]

Theoretically is the best kind of -ally

[undone sun]

there really isn't anything set in stone, from when i was SF we were asked to look for those who were helpful and frequent, but even if they fit those there weren't guaranteed to get the role, multiple of my recommendations were shot down

all in all, it's really about who would fit in, in the clubhouse

mwahi does really well, but even i told him that i was surprised

at how quick it happened

[short geode]

is there a free database for important mobs in m+? i don`t want to pay a streamer for just this

[undone sun]

blockable and reflectable spreadsheet in #268491842637660160 it also has a few Notable Trash Mobs per dungeon

[daring patrol]

paying streamers? what?

[primal sable]

Ahem its called a sub

[lusty grotto]

Uhhh why would you pay a streamer

That makes me 😡

[undone sun]

i've definitely heard of streamer give out their WA's/UI's to subs, not surprised they do shit like that as well

[ocean acorn]

for notable trash there is a good tanking guide somewhere

https://sunniersartofwar.com/quick-and-dirty-tanking-guides/battle-for-azeroth-dungeons/

this is a pretty good written guide on notable mechanics in m+

@short geode

change it to heroic/mythic

[short geode]

i´m looking for a list with all mobs that need to be interrupted and so on. and with this information i want to color my nameplates

sorry for not making this clear earlier

[ocean acorn]

i dont think there is a list like that

is there a specific dungeon u want

a list for

most things that have casts u generally want to interrupt

[sick sentinel]

not to sound like a dick or anything

but I think that is called experience and actually playing the game

you can also look in mdt

[ocean acorn]

lol ya

its mostly just experience

just play throught the dungeons

[junior ivy]

there are nameplate addons that will show you when a mob is casting an interruptable spell

[oblique garnet]

@junior ivy you still not resubbed?

[junior ivy]

not yet 😦

[oblique garnet]

Do it

I know you want to

[junior ivy]

my issue is time. wow is so "all or nothing" for me

i either play nonstop, mythic raiding, etc

or i dont plauy

i cant play casually

im incapable

[oblique garnet]

Mythic raiding is pretty casual

Gearing is casual

[junior ivy]

the time commitment thoughhh

and i live in a weird timezone, so raiding is always very late my time 😦

[oblique garnet]

The time commitment aint bad either

You need to play like 1-2 hours to maintain your charactet a week

• raids

[junior ivy]

maybe ill try

the other issue is guild

[umbral forge]

you're in luck

many guilds are desperate for recruits right now

[junior ivy]

but i suck lol

[oblique garnet]

Git gud

@umbral forge stop being bad at the game what does the 8/9m guild think when you cant even top dps on spriest smh

[umbral forge]

Uh huh

[oblique garnet]

Low

[umbral forge]

yeah

[oblique garnet]

Low dps

[umbral forge]

tank pulled 1 and 1 pack

[oblique garnet]

Is it time for fh

[umbral forge]

soon

my friend is gone

[oblique garnet]

How long

[umbral forge]

tomorrow morning probably. He has the keys

and im not home atm

cause saturday

[magic hazel]

Just got Idol of Indiscriminate Consumption ... on first glance it looks really good for dungeon content. Is it?

[sick sentinel]

it is

not this week though

you want dps trinkets this week

@oblique garnet not kiting anymore no more bloodsport aswell

going big boy now

big boy as in

not retarded?

normal

hey 😦

[daring marlin]

woah man

woah

[sick sentinel]

okey

nn bois

[daring marlin]

unyun bm

[sick sentinel]

it's joke

[daring marlin]

:^)

[oblique garnet]

Melva is higher io than you kage

[sick sentinel]

that doesn',mean I can't call him a retard tho

[lusty grotto]

Lmao

Its joke too late

[blazing bloom]

Hello fresh warrior here planning to focus on m+. Can't decide between BE or HMT any suggestions?

[sick sentinel]

whatever you like looking at the most

[outer dew]

can we ban

Nimchip

for changing pfp

i was thinking who this nimchip impersonator

[lusty grotto]

excuse me

that's stewart the fish

[primal sable]

Belf for the most aesthetic of races

[sick sentinel]

That's just a wrong opinion

Poyo

[sweet kettle]

@blazing bloom aside from looks BE is more useful than a highmountain

[umbral forge]

@oblique garnet you wanna Freehold in like 10-15?

[umbral forge]

@blazing bloom Nightborne Male Warrior.

[oblique garnet]

@umbral forge No man im pushing rn

[umbral forge]

that's fine man

good luck

[junior ivy]

Hi

[oblique garnet]

@umbral forge I did the experiment pulls on 19 ml

it worked out

[sage niche]

how warrior tanks Rixxa Fluxflame after +22 at motherlode ?

[dark coral]

Lots and lots of ignore pain, and the group cycles an immunity/spell reflect for one of the chemical burn dots (while healer dispels the other immediately). It’s cast on the closest two players and predictably in the spell cycle so you can reliably bait it on the person you want.

[sage niche]

i run if i cannot spellreflect not just that

does shield block do anything at all at that boss it feels hardest hitting thing on entire game

[dark coral]

Her auto attacks deal fire damage it is not blockable or reflectable, and is not reduced by armour

Spell reflect dr works but you want to be using that to reflect the burn

[sage niche]

yes sadly only 1 of 2 ican reflect

[dark coral]

If you’re struggling to keep IP up while she is hitting you, you shouldn’t be spending rage or casting demo shout while she’s casting propellant blast. You should be using it for dr/rage gen to facilitate more IP when needed

Yeah gotta co ordinate with group for every 2nd one. There are many ways to handle it, dwarf racials, mass dispells, cloak of shadows, bubble, etc. just find what works for your group

[sage niche]

good to know that is not blockable

i will spam ip from now on

thanks for advice

[slim cosmos]

can you spell reflect off an intercept?

[primal sable]

do what now?

[umbral forge]

@oblique garnet nice. Probably easier to control over Voice

[oblique garnet]

no man

we didnt control it at all XDD

We just went full yolo

XD

[umbral forge]

I send the best memes. Just ask @honest canopy

[honest canopy]

Nothibg like wakw up in The morning

Watch that

Very funny

VERY

[umbral forge]

Worked like coffee

[honest canopy]

Idk, I dont drink Coffee

Gonif to sit next to The babys crib, play FFX on The switch

While hes beeing happy for 2 hours

[fair flint]

if im new to prot tanking should i go with vers gems and enchants or haste?

[vocal skiff]

haste

[dark lark]

can anybody offer any insight as to why i sometimes die to cyclone strike in temple of sethralis even with shield reflect on

most of the time i reflect it just fine

but every once in a while it kills me

some kind of rare bug?

[oblique garnet]

Jolt going off at the same time hitting you

Or youre trying to reflect all of them and they dont hit at the same time @dark lark

[dark lark]

does it mean im too far away? should i stand in him?

[oblique garnet]

No

[dark lark]

my log doesn't say anything about jolt

[oblique garnet]

Then it was targeted at you

Or you got hit by multiple

Best way to ensure it isnt targeted at you is by having the group stack behind the boss

[dark lark]

chat log says "Cyclone Strike on druid"

[You died.]

😦

[oblique garnet]

Yes chat log says

[dark lark]

you think something's wrong with the boss mod?

[oblique garnet]

But were you standing with the group?

[dark lark]

no, i circling around to reflect it

*i had to circle around to reflect

[oblique garnet]

🤔

Hard to say then

[dark lark]

ruined a pug's key, felt bad 😦

2k players amirite LUL

[oblique garnet]

MonkaS 2k tank not knowing how to reflect LUL

(Its a joke)

[dark lark]

(ITS TOO REAL!)

😢

my current hypothesis is that when i strafed around to reflect, my character wasn't fully facing frontward to reflect

i dont know if it's the front 180 degrees or front 90, but maybe i wasn't fully facing the boss dead on?

[oblique garnet]

Shouldnt matter

Idk ive never found any issues

Other than jolt at le

Me

[dark lark]

ugh

[junior ivy]

i wish wow would have a free weekend soon

[lusty grotto]

We should have a faq for cyclone strike I swear

[potent anvil]

@dark lark You could have reflected jolt if it was a jolt+cyclone strike overlap

[undone sun]

logs could tell you why

😉

[umbral forge]

@oblique garnet you still asleep man?

[potent anvil]

logging m+ 🤔
jk, but yeah logs

[umbral forge]

@sand condor

[oblique garnet]

@umbral forge no

[umbral forge]

wanna do Freehold?

[oblique garnet]

Eating

[umbral forge]

ait

after?

[oblique garnet]

cant have to do stuff soon

[umbral forge]

Vic just woke up, he can tank a few keys for me. I have a KR 14 he can sink his teeth in either way.
Cheers lad

[oblique garnet]

@umbral forge actually can do few keys

[umbral forge]

Nice

what was your char name and stuff again I forgot

[oblique garnet]

which character are you on

[umbral forge]

Shadehoof-Stormscale

[honest canopy]

Lul

Gearing JettomsAlts is our new motivation to game

[oblique garnet]

eh

he has something i need

a.k.a freehold key

[honest canopy]

I was very serious :p

[umbral forge]

Speaking of @honest canopy I have a +14 King's Rest you want to tank

[honest canopy]

My current state says no

[umbral forge]

that's fair.

[honest canopy]

Going with Lil kid to training in 40 mins

I am very bad at gaming during The weekend, only game daytime when at The office 😪

[quartz quartz]

so i finally did it

[oblique garnet]

@umbral forge what talents did you use?

[quartz quartz]

leveled my warr and gearin up

im a brew main

[umbral forge]

@oblique garnet

[quartz quartz]

can someone explain. the 1 thing in the rotation i wonder about is where to dump rage

i guess its prolly situational

[oblique garnet]

Revenge and ignore pain

[quartz quartz]

but if u feel not threat are we just dumping it into revenge on avatar?

[oblique garnet]

Not necessarily

@umbral forge 🤔 you shouldve done more dps

[umbral forge]

yea

[quartz quartz]

also

[umbral forge]

I mess up my dark void application timing

and well I move during mind sear

[quartz quartz]

during avatar do u really care about shield bash?

[oblique garnet]

Yes

You use shieldslam on cd

Even with avatar

[quartz quartz]

seems like i can almost get 3/4 of both clap and revenge off

k

and keeping ignore pain up 100%?

[oblique garnet]

No

Shield block> Ignore pain

[quartz quartz]

dang k

i see warrs doin all this damage

im also not geared yet

so

i can see it with more haste being easier

but

if i dump rage in to block and pain i pretty much can only revenge when its free

and dont do nearly as much dam

[honest canopy]

Not running shadowcrash in M+ jettom?

[oblique garnet]

Shadow crash is only worth if youre doing big pulls

Which i was doing

[honest canopy]

I know your pulls

Late pulling big, and never pulling out Late

💞💕🎼

[oblique garnet]

I wanted to go bigger but things did not get interrupted so i chose not to😪

[umbral forge]

I was second best interrupt 😃

Late, say what you want

I know to interrupt at least

[oblique garnet]

Aye

[umbral forge]

honestly my biggest issue is just learning when to pop dark void.
And to learn to respect mechanics.
The King's Rest key went to hell cause of a 9k DPS DH. I'm not even mad.

[spice ferry]

How does a dh even do 9k

Jesus

[umbral forge]

Ok fine it was 11k on first boss but still. It's not good

[silk mortar]

Im deeply impressed someone manages to do that 🤔

[oblique garnet]

Did a 19 ur

Outlaw rogue on 3rd boss 12k

”Unlucky rolls”

Tbf he got every single upheaval

[silk mortar]

Yikes

Poor fella

[sand condor]

9k dh?

Thats worse than the 16k mage

Rip jettom

[pulsar lily]

Is there a factor to reliably reflect cyclone strike?

[neon tangle]

@umbral forge I’m still working on not dying to Rando mechanics

Nothing in low keys feels scary as a tank

But shit will 1shot my rogue

[drowsy salmon]

hi guys, as second tank what do you prefer after war? i have dh and monk to be leveled ...felt in love with tanking after 14 years never touched them lol

[neon tangle]

M+ or raid?

[oblique garnet]

Guardian druid

[austere oar]

Usually when I'm not playing war I go dh

[drowsy salmon]

i mean for both myth+ and raid

[outer dew]

how high do you plan to push?

or what do you think is a challenging level atm for you

[drowsy salmon]

i am around 10-12, did 120 2 weeks ago with warr, my IL is 395

[outer dew]

at that level of content, just choose what you think looks the most interesting

might be a bit easier to get into groups as a monk though

i personally think dh looks pretty interesting

@neon tangle BTW

WHY DOES IT FEEL SO TRASH TO HEAL A DK

???

[austere oar]

Dk is massive in hps but their health is like 20% / 100 / 20 / 100

Hate healing a bdk

[oblique garnet]

@outer dew its because they are spiky and you dont know when they will just roll over and die

[outer dew]

Like, I was just sitting in wcm

[sand condor]

Arent they already dead

[outer dew]

Wondering why I'm going oom every fucking pull

Felt bad for the guy I started using fish feast

[sand condor]

Keeping the dead alive

Takes more mana

[outer dew]

Through holy shock

[sand condor]

Than keeping tge living alive

[outer dew]

Keeping that fucker through holy

[oblique garnet]

This is why i have alwas hated bdk

[outer dew]

Like the thing is

He gave me sass

[oblique garnet]

On paper their hps looks insane

But they need so much healer babysit its unreal

[outer dew]

For telling him not to be retarded and AMS reaping

You know what the dumb ass did

[sand condor]

I dunno if i should lvl a monk or a bdk

[outer dew]

???

Ams every fucking reaping

[oblique garnet]

Xd

[outer dew]

Every fucking retard tank

[neon tangle]

@outer dew honestly people overestimate how easy it is to play BDK

you still gotta have a brain

[outer dew]

Doesnt understand you have to keep refreshing the stacks