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sick sentinel
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Nah fuck that

modern brook
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Just makes one guy super strong, until you kill the GL haunting you

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they said they want a more ST oriented affix this season

sick sentinel
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Constant tick damage as if ur drowning

modern brook
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Undead Race Change ezpz

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warlocks also meta

sick sentinel
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Who said u start with a full bar

empty inlet
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what piece do i roll for

celest gate
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F u piece

modern brook
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what helmet is that?

sick sentinel
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Ur taking the damage as SOON as u start the run

modern brook
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and which chest?

empty inlet
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helm of the abyssal malevolence

sick sentinel
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Helm or chest

weary veldt
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is 410 HV better than 405 VM with socket?

empty inlet
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chest is ashvane warden's cuirass

modern brook
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roll chest

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are shoulders kracken?

sick sentinel
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Nah

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Roll helm

empty inlet
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yes

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isn't first boss chest

sick sentinel
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1st boss gives our chest

verbal river
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does BOM stack

sand egret
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Roll helm

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and yes

modern brook
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I'd roll chest, and re-forgehelm and shoulders for DC/Bom and BoM /MS

sand egret
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actually, what Bulls aid

celest gate
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The mastery does

modern brook
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wait nvm

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you have all 3 peices

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just go DC/Bom Bom/ms bom/ms

sand egret
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the dream

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T.T

modern brook
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then start rolling whatever for a st set

sand egret
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😭

verbal river
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just wondering if this is okay helm is BS CR shoulders are BOM BFI and chest is DC BOM like i know its probably not ideal but its what i've got for now

modern brook
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looks fine to me kleb

sand egret
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BoM stacking is a joy you need to experience

empty inlet
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ms is good in m+ ?

sand egret
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MS is sick

modern brook
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MS is dope af rn

sick sentinel
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Ur helm needs fucking jesus

modern brook
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they buffed its uptime

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~33%

empty inlet
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so 3 bom 2 ms 1 dc is what i should go for ?

modern brook
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well more accurately they fixed a bug that resulted in less procs than intended

sand egret
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yeep

empty inlet
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what should i roll than

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4Head

modern brook
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Literally whatever lol

sand egret
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w/e you want

modern brook
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if you want a Raid set

sick sentinel
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Or just save it for 8.2

sand egret
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should isn't a part of the question anymore

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πŸ˜ƒ

modern brook
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^

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my ^ is to both ppl

sand egret
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^
&

empty inlet
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i just thought generic trait is bad

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so never picked ms

sick sentinel
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It is technically

modern brook
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Generic traits are non-reliable

sand egret
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^

modern brook
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as in they're RNG centric

sand egret
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this change made it more reliable

modern brook
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^

sick sentinel
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But for m+ ur getting 2 Rezan procs stacking

modern brook
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You're losing a BFI and a BS for like

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1400 haste

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well

sand egret
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in M+ youre fighting more consistently and damage moments aren't bound to prime moments like Boss fight mechanics in a raid

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so the "rng" is less impactful

modern brook
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1400*.33=462

umbral forge
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@sand condor wanna do mythic islands

modern brook
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but when it procs is basically blood lust

sand condor
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i dont

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but ill help anyways

sick sentinel
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Does Soul Goliath do more damage to the group when you drag him through fire per stack? Or no? >_>

sand egret
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it does AoE damage

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when he's on fire

sick sentinel
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I believe so

modern brook
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also the rquirement for it is super lenient on warrior since both SB and IP count towards it and we rarely do the same moe per global anyways

sand egret
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and the ghosts randomly auto attack people

empty inlet
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i try this out for a day or too friends πŸ˜ƒ

sand egret
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also, as Prot....there is very little reason to bring him to fire

sick sentinel
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BIG haste

sand egret
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VERY little reason

modern brook
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:big: haste

sick sentinel
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What u mean

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So I should just sit it the entire time? :>

sand egret
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that's what I do

sick sentinel
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On like a +19?

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If ur not confident don't do that

modern brook
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On fort yes

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On tyr its more of a question imo

sand egret
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on Tyr its different

sick sentinel
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I've sat 60 stacks on a 16 Tyran

sand egret
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yeah fo sure lol

sick sentinel
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But not on a 19.

modern brook
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The issue with never burning is you cant decide to stop not-burning it

sick sentinel
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So it would be ideal to just reset it constantly?

modern brook
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so you need tob e confident in your ability to face tank it for the duration of the fight

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or you need to reset it at X stacks, whatever u and the healer are comfortable with

sick sentinel
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I have a shammy healing me.

sand egret
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yeah it's kinda an all-or-nothing strat

sick sentinel
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So I'm kinda weary

sand egret
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since if you DO burn it

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at high stacks its just RIP

modern brook
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Long story short; if you're asking in discord, burn at ~25-30 unless ur healers a bitch then ~20

sick sentinel
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If ur weary do it like how u would normally

sand egret
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yeah

modern brook
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if you're confident in that fight, just face tank it and blame ur dps if hes still alive when 1 auto kills you

sick sentinel
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Lur

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I'll be safe

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and face tank it. NOT MY KEY BOYS.

sand egret
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also

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don't clear stacks when a spike thingy is going out

modern brook
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pug keys are for experimenting

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go for it man

sand egret
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or that target is basically dead

sick sentinel
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Yeah, I know that πŸ˜›

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I was just unsure about how the fire damage worked.

sand egret
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it's 2 parts

empty inlet
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if youre playing warrior

sand egret
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AoE pulse

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and ghosties

empty inlet
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and youre playing with a shaman

sand egret
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that auto shit for fire dmage

empty inlet
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leave the group unless that guy is your wife

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LUL

sick sentinel
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IT'LL BE FINE

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I usually run with a Disc priest :>

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I die allot

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Lol

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I like when I see a smash and I'm like "bark me"

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And then

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"I parried it lol"

empty inlet
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tfw you have bis traits you dont know what to roll for in the vender

sick sentinel
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@empty inlet save

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43k for a random mythic lvl piece

empty inlet
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sounds like jebait

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is it on ptr alreasy?

sick sentinel
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Thing is, I want the boss to hit me so I can calculate how much next hit is

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My sources are questionable

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Not yet but the value cost won't change accoding to blizz

sand egret
sick sentinel
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That's my source

empty inlet
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it would take 10 weeks to get 20k

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sounds jebait

sick sentinel
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If you do trade runs

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And feed a single person azerite

empty inlet
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ah true

sick sentinel
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It can be done

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Yeah but for the average player

sand egret
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clearly not balanced!

sick sentinel
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I don't know how viable that is

sand egret
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that first week

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just woof

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pure chaos

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cats and dogs playing together

sick sentinel
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Can't wait

sand egret
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Ferals considered meta

sick sentinel
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Feed me azerite gear and get a free sub so my patreon for dog picts :>

sand egret
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just pure chaos

empty inlet
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probably will just roll pieces for off spec or somthing than

sand egret
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that's what I'd do

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or just fuck-around pieces

empty inlet
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what are good traits for raid

sand egret
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for weird trait setups

empty inlet
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still 3 bom ?

sand egret
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BoM isn't as valuable in raid

empty inlet
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(just dont wanna die in raid ) πŸ˜ƒ

sand egret
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try stacking BFI and BoM?

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3x BFI/2x BoM /1x DC?

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Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

sick sentinel
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3bfi 1 bom 1dc

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One joker

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bs lol

empty inlet
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Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

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i dont raid

sand egret
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you're kinda in the best position

empty inlet
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i just need opulence trinket πŸ˜ƒ

sick sentinel
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Fuck these meta trait builds

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Ghetto prot warrior is the only true way

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1 of each prot trait

sand egret
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the Boy Scout Build

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got a trait for everything!

sick sentinel
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Also yo blade

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That's a DOPE AF addon

sand egret
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i know right

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i'm actually considering using that, tbh

sick sentinel
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I'm gonna check that shit out after work cause HOLY SHIT

sand egret
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as my 3rd addon

sick sentinel
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The camera movement and screen pop up

sand egret
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πŸ‘Œ

sick sentinel
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YO THAT LOOKS COOL AS FUCK

sand egret
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and that jrpg referenced stat dist chart πŸ˜ƒ

sick sentinel
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It was only a matter of time until someone was tired of looking at the character screen

sand egret
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sliiiick

sick sentinel
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Wait

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wait

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wait

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"I don't use addons"

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??????

sand egret
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I know right

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i'm actually considering this one

sick sentinel
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Mad lad over here

sand egret
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how did you not know this

sick sentinel
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I use mainly UI improvement addons

sand egret
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that's it

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oh and an interrupt tracker

sick sentinel
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At least get dbm or bigwigs for m+

sand egret
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i dont need it tbh

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i can track most shit in my head

sick sentinel
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Oh

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Can I ask what's your score?

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I thought it was because u had a leech build

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Or raid prog

sand egret
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I don't raid homie

sick sentinel
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Acceptable

sand egret
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that's mainly why

sick sentinel
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And understandable

sand egret
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like 2 timers isn't hard to get in your head

void hill
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Is it better to stack brace for impact or bastion of might

sand egret
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5+ though haha

sick sentinel
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For what

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@void hill raids bfi, mplus bom

sand egret
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^

sick sentinel
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Cause ur not stacking bom in raids

void hill
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sorry m+

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ty

weary veldt
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is 405 VM + socket better than 410 HV

sick sentinel
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Vm?

sand egret
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HV?

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weapons maybe?

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πŸ€”

weary veldt
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belt

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sorry

sick sentinel
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Ilvl

sand egret
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ilvl

weary veldt
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405 v/m + socket or 410 hv

sick sentinel
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A socket is pretty much worthless if it's not on a ring/trinket

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Unless ur comparing same ilvl gear

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Eh

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I would drop 5 ilvls on a cloak

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Or some pieces

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It not entirely but u don't gain or lose much

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True

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My copypasta that I wrote says 5ilvl for gear, I'm keeping it that way

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It's fine but it's not I'm going to underperform or be bad with or without the socket

weary veldt
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so idk should i buff the ilvl or drop it for socket

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my mastery is prety low

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680

sick sentinel
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Does the socket have haste on it without the gem

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I would go haste vers

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Over vers mastery

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Mastery is made up by BoM

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If I could choose my stats I would be haste/crit in all my gear

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Which is on a extremely small cd

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maybe some vers or something for some dungeons

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If I could choose my stats full vers

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And leech

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For that max act healing

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Yeah but your d is smol tho

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Good, it means it's safe

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Lol

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Can't lose my d if doesn't get in the way

umbral forge
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@sick sentinel I did a m+ with late yesterday

void hill
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how do you guys feel about treacherous covenant ?

sick sentinel
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Who tanked

void hill
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for m+

umbral forge
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Kaege

sick sentinel
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It's really good

umbral forge
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I mean Late

sick sentinel
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@void hill it's nice

umbral forge
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so it didn't go so well

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we had like 30 deaths

sick sentinel
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When its not bursting

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Lol

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Or quaking

void hill
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yea seems little risky

sick sentinel
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It's not risky

void hill
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it's either treacherous covenant or a 3rd bom

sick sentinel
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TC loses value if u dip below 50% too often

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Bom

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Bom

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100%

knotty vortex
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so i got lockjaw shoulders for azerite armor this week. they have nothing on the tradewinds trait. but 1k mastery seems good. its ither that or iron fortress. already have a 420 shield so im not sure if i need extra block

sick sentinel
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If you are not playing with 3xBoM in mplus you're playing the game wrong

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Bom/if

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@knotty vortex bom/if

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Unless you're doing smol keys

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Funny enough I want that shoulder for my warrior

knotty vortex
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so i do want iron fortess regardless

sick sentinel
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3bom/2if/dc

knotty vortex
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i see

sick sentinel
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Even if I had a 425 shield I would go 3bom/2if/1dc

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IF is a strong trait for m+ if u can't get any of the other meta traits or have a low ilvl shield

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I would use IP only once every 12 sec because it would run out lol

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And spend all my rage on revenge

void hill
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@sick sentinel good info, i'm new to warrior thanks

sick sentinel
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Alternative to if

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Meticulous screaming is good

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Scheming*

void hill
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earthlink vs azererite glob vs strength in numbers

sick sentinel
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Earth

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el

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Stamina will do shit all for u and globs can proc on not ur mt

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And die before it builds up to proc

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Globs can be useful on fort weeks

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In really really high mplus

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During bolster

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Omega

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When mobs take literal hours to kill

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But I would rather have earthlink

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I wonder if mechagin will have a horseman fight

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I want the mekkagon trinket

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Cause I'm thinking of the cheese i used to do in +19 to do without dying

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Unless I'm crazy could u SR his purple aoe swing?

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Idk what you are talking about

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Attumen the horsefucker

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Oh

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Leap out lol

sand egret
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you forgot the crucial "karazhan" part πŸ˜ƒ

sick sentinel
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He would cast it twice Everytime I would

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You could literally heroic leap out of his mechanics

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Once while I'm near and twice when he runs to me

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Dude the whole reason I made my warrior

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Was to solo that dungeon

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And farm the mount

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I farmed that stupid dragon mount and it is right where it belongs

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Collecting dust

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But back on attumen

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I used to leap, intercept, intercept

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Since he would always cast his purple swing twice

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Damn magic shield

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Big

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Mark of ursoc when

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BRING IT BACK U FUCKING COWARDS

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IT DID NOT MAKE BEAR ANY LESS VIABLE U SACKS OF SHIT

celest gate
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Mark was OP

sick sentinel
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Bears would be insta bis tank for some fights

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will warri still be top tier after the nerfs in 8.2?

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Nope

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Please reroll back to bdk

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LOL

celest gate
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I'd reroll back vdh

sick sentinel
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I'd reroll my life

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Tiny D

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Want huge D

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For you it's probs impossible

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Damn

trim talon
sick sentinel
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I will never get my huge diaper's

weary veldt
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PepeLaugh avatar

celest gate
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Avatar will be nerfed πŸ‘Œ

trim talon
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probably

sick sentinel
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@trim talon you are VERY late to the party

trim talon
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@sick sentinel Been looking at fury traits ❀

sick sentinel
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Nerf avatar by giving me t21 2p SS

celest gate
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Actually, bom with that seems a bit OP

trim talon
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Only gave prot a glance now

sick sentinel
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Cause fuck avatar I wanna slamma jammmma my shield

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Abt 2set

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With 3x bfi

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Lol

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Jfc

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It's just bom but for one spell

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And 2bom

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We'd be GODS in ST

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Go deva for the true 100

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Bv would be better

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For a burst window

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Unless Am affected the CD for unlimited SS

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Who cares

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BV more like fuck outta my face

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Okay let's stop now because it ain't happening

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No remembering, only crushed dreams and tears,

high temple
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BoM MS shoulders deswind

sick sentinel
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Nice

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Give me

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Big

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Kraken shell?

high temple
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yeah πŸ˜„

sick sentinel
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That's what I'm using

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Oh my god

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I'm at work rn and somone is named Jojo

high temple
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replaced skyscorcher so no more BFI for m+

sick sentinel
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Feelsgood

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But could it replace the dark heart in ur soul that lives in ur chest, telling you
Go for Bloodsport

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I don't have that

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I used prebuff MS

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Instead of bs

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For more than a month

lunar jackal
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400 crit + mastery + leech weapon OR 415 axe from Waycrest manor with avoidance but no other stats

sick sentinel
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415

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Not even a question

high temple
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ilvl weapon always

sick sentinel
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Weapon damage goes directly into your attack power calculation

lunar jackal
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sweet

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thought but never hurts to check here

distant crystal
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so i've been wearing 400 crit/haste/leech pants over 405 vers/mast pants for a bit, irking this discord greatly. today the cache blessed me with 410 haste/mast/leech pants >:D

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leech team assemble deswind

sick sentinel
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...

mint adder
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Yas brother

umbral forge
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@sick sentinel it's okay. Soon it'll be viable.

open bluff
oblique garnet
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meh head piece

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no vamp speed

ebon lagoon
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Can anyone help me?

Level 100 prot warrior, have the base artifact, trying to get the hidden skin. I've read the Saga of the Valarjar.

Every day for a week now, I go to Nelth's Vault, no emote, fly around inside, no burning plate.

But all the macros I'm using to check for the daily roll seem to refuse to acknowledge this and actively contradict each other with what I get

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"/run print(IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(44311)) keeps coming back as false, meaning it shouldn't be there.

But "/run print(IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(44312))" keeps coming back false too, which according to the WoWhead post means the plate is available.

I'm lost.

umbral forge
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I think it's safe to assume you need to be level 110 to get it considering a base requisite was Artifact Knowledge.

ebon lagoon
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I...never considered that. Sorry.

umbral forge
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No need to be sorry, you asked for help and I gave you a guess

digital frigate
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Also even without running the script it can take a while.

ebon lagoon
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It's not that. I feel like a bloody idiot now - I've sat camped outside the cave for over a week now, logging in just once a day to check and leaving sore and salty.

old zephyr
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Quick question : What happen if both boss use storm relic at the same time ?

sturdy sable
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Alot of damage

old zephyr
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2 storms ?

warm plinth
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The script doesn’t enhance your chances. The chance to have the appearance show up is basically a daily quest. One of those scripts checks for the quest that results in the appearance showing up. The other checks for the quest that doesn’t. Get to 110 and resume your farming and you’ll get it soon enough.

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Sorry you wasted all that time though 😬

lunar jackal
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Guys i was just wondering. How much is a socket worth? Not an issue right now but .

modern brook
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snot

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maybe 5 on back/wrists

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~10 on jewlery

ivory light
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BfI or IF for M+ only?

warm plinth
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IF

ivory light
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k thats what i figured

modern brook
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IF has more applications

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BFI isbetter vs bosses

naive panther
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@open bluff that’s my next target. Have the best in the other slots. Engineering helm and a bom helm I don’t use until I get that helm.

mental scarab
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Btw how is the ”normal” midigation on paladins compared to warrior?

sick sentinel
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Idk, ask a prot paly

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They heal and can mitage magic by blocking

ionic fern
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Do you mean Shield Block vs SOTR?

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@mental scarab

mental scarab
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Yeas

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Pulled the beach mobs in Darkshore battle thingy and with Warrior i take like zero dmg and with my pala i diedπŸ˜‚

ionic fern
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SB is stronger than SOTS

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The thing is that Paladins can heal themselves

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With HOTP/LOTP/LoA

surreal stump
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and have like 4 oshit buttons

mental scarab
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Aha

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Weird way to tank πŸ€”

warm plinth
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They're still primarily a mitigation tank like warriors. Their mitigation just isn't as good as ours, so they have some self-heals thrown in.

umbral forge
mental scarab
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Can never change from Warrior thenπŸ˜‹ i do love the block

warm plinth
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Paladin is the only tank I have as much fun playing as warrior, personally.

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Some very cool spells, high APM, cool sound effects

drowsy salmon
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hi guys, there is the spell reflection aura from faq that doesnt work. Do you know how to fix it?

umbral forge
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whaddya mean

warm plinth
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Doesn't work in what way

mental scarab
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But the magic block thing that just sounds nice

warm plinth
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Yeah, it's a talent. The thing to remember is that they can't guarantee blocks like we can though.

mental scarab
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Aha

surreal stump
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that video im not sure where that dudes going but hes taking the longest way possible

mental scarab
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So its crap

warm plinth
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Rofl

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No, it's not crap. I just didn't want you getting the impression that they just block spells left and right

mental scarab
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Long live SB

umbral forge
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@surreal stump is there a faster way

mental scarab
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The only thing i dont like is that SR goes away afther one spell hit dho

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πŸ€”

warm plinth
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Yeah, we all miss Reflective Plating 😦

mental scarab
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Yea first version πŸ˜‚

surreal stump
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LMAO i didnt even know there was a boat that showed up at end of the docks

umbral forge
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Supposedly I can get a portal to The Blasted Lands hmm

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teleport even

jovial haven
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to get to boralus?

umbral forge
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yes

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it takes me 16 mins

jovial haven
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how tf? are you below lvl 110?

umbral forge
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no im 120

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if you scroll up you can see the video of how I get there

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help my family is starving

jovial haven
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take protal to tirasguarde fp northwest and strider across water boom youre there. or stormsong go furthest south fly point and run

umbral forge
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what

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there's a portal there?

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im horde

jovial haven
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yes talk to the dude on boat go to siege and run

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not exactly a portal, but he ports you

umbral forge
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cant do war camp

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so cant tp

jovial haven
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why not?

umbral forge
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I don wanna

jovial haven
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do you just get summoned to every dungeon?

umbral forge
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nah I have it on my mains

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just cba on all my alts

jovial haven
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you legit just pick tirasgaurde as foot hold then go there, that is all you have to do to get there faster

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ah, alt. that is about fastest way i can think of without putting real time into it

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is blasted lands portal still in org? havent paid attention since the portal change

warm plinth
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IIRC there's just a person you can talk to when you have the quest to go to Draenor that will port you. Not sure if they're always there or if you have to have the quest.

mortal brook
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its a mage to talk to on the ground floor that ports you

warm plinth
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Yeah idk who it is for Horde but Alliance has a Kirin Tor mage sitting near the portal area

jovial haven
#

not sure how blasted lands would help tbh but seen it mentioned. really can't think of another way to get there without doing at least a foothold quest

surreal stump
#

what would help would be not to feed trolls

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you can 100% start war comp, and not do any of the quest and choose TG and use free portal

jovial haven
#

even trolls have to eat once in a while.. i mean he did pick the worst race amd siphoning at one point

surreal stump
#

ill be honest the video did show me theres a boat at the end of the docks

umbral forge
#

hah

jovial haven
#

yea thats about where i stopped watching, cus its 16min long lol. but i didnt know there was a boat there

warm plinth
#

He's not trolling. He really does take that route.

jovial haven
#

i would be unlocking the TG point then fck that 16min trip

honest canopy
#

Any one watching limit?

#

10 shadowpriests

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Lies. 8, 2 discs 2 holy

umbral forge
#

@surreal stump back in MoP I "roleplayed"* a grumpy insane old Dwarf who refused to use portals, be summoned, take flightpaths and use any kind of mount save my Dreadsteed. I could be summoned by other Warlocks though. I learned every in game path thanks to it.

*ironically cause all my irl friends were on AD EU.

surreal stump
#

thats funny

astral crystal
#

@honest canopy yeah it's pretty funny

#

mythic looks kinda aids though

honest canopy
#

Yeah

signal plover
#

I haven't even looked at mythic changes tbh

#

We're still on blockade and there's like 0 interest in M CoS

mortal brook
#

just a couple extra things to dodge

red wedge
#

There's a map thing on the war campaign vendor that lets you unlock all FPs on your alt.

wide cosmos
#

guys quick question.. vial of Animated blood or jes? both 400ilvl.. ty in advance

warm plinth
#

Vial

wide cosmos
#

ok ty will try both

drowsy salmon
#

is my fault or this is not working anymore?

undone sun
#

was it working for you before
have you tried reimporting it

umbral forge
#

@drowsy salmon was the spell you failed to SR an instant cast

#

I'm gonna start progressing mythic jaina tomorrow. #hype

warm plinth
#

But mythic Crucible πŸ˜‰

undone sun
#

only 2 bosses, can't be hard 4head

jovial haven
#

@drowsy salmon I use it and it works fine. If the spell is not cast on you, it will not register on the WA and if it is instant cst it will not show

undone sun
#

as stated by the description

jovial haven
#

yes, but so many do not read it... kind of like reading tooltips lol

undone sun
#

well aware

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just pointing it out because of said reason

jovial haven
#

i know

celest gate
#

People read?

jovial haven
#

apparently not so much, guess we can blame that book reading site audible lol

exotic spoke
#

Sup

spice cargo
#

guys is it worth 2x ablative shielding trait? its when u get 40% or lower it proc for more 1.6k armor increase

#

or 1 is enough and i should go unstable flames or gutripper

modern brook
#

the other options have to be particularly bad for me to consider ablative over raw stats on that ring tbh

spice cargo
#

on engineer helm i got that

#

idk

modern brook
#

IDR Engi helm inners off hand

#

Ablative is good cause we dont have armor steroids 🀷

#

Stats are good cause we scale absurdly well

#

Neithers a bad option

#

Stats have an offensive application though

warm plinth
#

I would go with Unstable Flames against Ablative Shielding

modern brook
#

Same

warm plinth
#

I'm not a huge fan of Ablative myself

exotic spoke
#

So... what do you tell a prot warrior (a fellow space goat I may add) that refuses to take Bolster or Anger Management because it causes Last Stand and Gift of the Naaru to not be on the same cooldown and he has it macroed together

spice cargo
#

i am using wm trinket for crit, more crit idk

warm plinth
#

Though if you do push really high keys, it's probably worth it more

spice cargo
#

i feel like i have so much of that

modern brook
#

My personal ranking is OP>CC>lifespeed>UF>bloodsiphon

warm plinth
#

Tell him to delete his character Riki

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Because that guy can't be taught

spice cargo
#

overhelming? when u take damage it gets removed

undone sun
#

they probably type out their rotations in /cast's

modern brook
#

It has an internal cooldown

exotic spoke
#

Lol ghash

#

And thyme

modern brook
#

@spice cargo ; it caps at like ~2stacks per second lost, including the ticking one

#

Even at half efficacy, OP is OP

#

Crystal Carapace is slept on imo

#

Its literally IF on an inner ring

spice cargo
#

mhm

modern brook
#

Ewhirl might be better than UF; for the record

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especially if you have a good Ivus trinket roll

neon tangle
#

@outer dew more bear buffs!

outer dew
#

link

#

???

neon tangle
#

NEW Frenzied Regeneration Frenzied Regeneration will now spend up to 30 additional Rage to immediately heal you for up to 18% additional health.

Frenzied Regeneration Heals you for 18% of maximum health over 3 sec.
Guardian (Level 85)
Immediately heals you for up to 18% additional health based on Rage spent

Cost changed from 10 Rage to 0 Rage

warm plinth
#

Oh I missed the part where it didn't have a base cost anymore

outer dew
#

hmm

warm plinth
#

So 36% heal for 30 rage

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18% of which is instant

outer dew
#

i don't know how i feel about it

#

pooling rage seems like it's gonna be a pain i nthe ass

neon tangle
#

I mean, normal case it's just doubling the heal

outer dew
#

i mean, the 30 extra rage thing is gonna be awk

modern brook
#

IDTS

umbral forge
#

@exotic spoke just refuse to play with him

mortal brook
#

ironfur still gonna pay off except for post-combat affixes like bursting tbh

warm plinth
#

I figured it probably wouldn't change gameplay in most cases. You would just use it how you normally do and just have the bonus of whatever rage you had in the bank at the time

modern brook
#

It just insentivizes you to not just dump rage into iron fur

#

Whats with that Frost DK change though

#

0 ppm??

exotic spoke
#

I’m trying to educate. But yes, if he was a recruit for my guild I’d make it clear - pick the optimal talents or gtfo and explain why they are better @umbral forge

sick sentinel
#

@spice cargo were you the guy with the deep voice doing kelade on april fools?

topaz ember
#

Is meticulous Scheming any good for prot?

modern brook
#

its pgood

topaz ember
#

or is the proc rate trash

sick sentinel
#

after the buffs yes

modern brook
#

they buffed its proc rate

#

well fixed*

#

but

#

same difference

sick sentinel
#

almost doubled the uptime

topaz ember
#

better than Brace for impact you think?

sick sentinel
#

m+ yes

modern brook
#

^

exotic spoke
#

I’d go BFI for raids

topaz ember
#

yea i'm only taking m+

exotic spoke
#

But yeah.

topaz ember
#

I'm in a weird spot where all 3 peices of my gear has DC on it

sick sentinel
#

same

topaz ember
#

and trying to figure out what one to use

sick sentinel
#

I was in the same spot

#

but I only use 1 DC

mortal brook
#

cant get that 3rd bom 😒

sick sentinel
#

steve

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just get it dude

exotic spoke
#

@topaz ember are you having problems with survivability?

mortal brook
#

D:

topaz ember
#

kinda want to just go all out dps as tank

exotic spoke
#

I have the dream - 3 BoM, 1 Dc, 2 IF and it is glorious

#

Well, are you having problems with survivability? If no - then either a) pill bigger or b) lose survivability to gain dps

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B would be the 3x BoM 3 x DC as part of it

#

I should say - as one way of approaching B

modern brook
#

@topaz ember are all 3 DCs on the inner ring?

topaz ember
#

no

#

just oine on the inner 2 outer

#

i know we dont have sims but can i like my sim so i can show you what i'm working with if you have the time to take a look

undone sun
#

we have damage sims

topaz ember
#

oo do we now

undone sun
#

have for a bit now

topaz ember
#

havent really played sense 8.0

#

well prot at least

exotic spoke
#

Do you consistently run with the same healer?

neon tangle
#

What if I consistently run with the same bad healer?

topaz ember
#

i usually run with healers from my guild they are all pretty geared were 8/9 mythic right now. Just want to set up a high dps tank

#

for m+

stiff bear
#

i use opuulence trinket cuz im a little newb that dont trust myself or healer xD

#

could probably swap to vial or something though

#

it just does sooo much healing in a run

summer wigeon
#

really wish I could get good traits from the randomized vendor for my 415 gear. 3 x IF, 1 x DC, 0 x BoM

exotic spoke
#

@topaz ember then work them. Get to a point where you are pushing them but not collapsing consistently. If they are very frequently dpsing then you can potentially lose survivability and gain dps.

umbral forge
#

Hey Thyme, you know gimmyy?

undone sun
#

yeah

umbral forge
#

neat

oblique garnet
#

what day is it

umbral forge
#

oh heya Late

#

it's Wednesday

#

I got into a 8/9 mythic guild on my hunter lol

vocal skiff
#

If you went alliance

#

And raided heroic

#

But wanted heavy m+

#

would you go nelf or dorf

#

DI included of course

umbral forge
#

I'd go MALE LF Draenei
With the full LF Draenei Heritage Armor

vocal skiff
#

Is that for real or meme

umbral forge
#

I'd seriously do it cause I love them and their animations and Light's Justice is stronk burst.
DID will make 2 pulls in King's Rest way easier

#

Nelf lets you do some fancy skips

#

I once melded in the ass of Onyxia during wrath that was wild

#

but I believe in fashion over function

#

We were wiping, I shadowmelded, full wipe, I was in Onyxia's butt until next pull. "Frukt don't move a muscle"

exotic spoke
#

@umbral forge another poor choice. It’s all about female space goats of the non light forged variety

umbral forge
#

@exotic spoke I agree WHOLE heartedly with you about this about every class except Protection Warrior.

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and Protection Paladin

#

Though I consider LF and normal Draenei the same

lusty grotto
#

πŸ‘€

sick sentinel
#

@vocal skiff do not listen to jet

exotic spoke
#

I look good in my transmog. Just need my shoulders. Passed them to a guildee last Thursday. Got Dreadnaught for only 500k

sick sentinel
#

He plays a nightbourne warrior

umbral forge
#

Proudly.

undone sun
#

@umbral forge gimmy says hi

umbral forge
#

Neat

lusty grotto
#

πŸ‘€

undone sun
#

lol

umbral forge
#

tell him hi back

sick sentinel
#

Literally the ONLY race in the game you are not supposed to make a warrior on

umbral forge
#

@sick sentinel it is actually the only race I haven't hated as prot warrior on Horde

lusty grotto
#

the only race in the game that boot soup claps instead of bootyclaps

sick sentinel
#

Literally that

#

Well

umbral forge
#

@sick sentinel
If the wow storyline goes in a way to make blizzard make me able to play alliance races and raid with my horde buddies
I just want you to know my warrior will become a Male LF Draenei.

lusty grotto
#

what the what

#

how can you go worse jettom

#

MALE DRAENEI

ornate wagon
#

is Never Surrender good on jadefire?

sick sentinel
#

No

umbral forge
#

no

undone sun
#

never

lusty grotto
#

i'm gonna say y... no

neon tangle
#

@ornate wagon the best talent for jadefire is "find an OT that can tank the mage"

sick sentinel
#

I wanted to say something jet

#

But tos

lusty grotto
#

back on topic guys MALE DRAENEI jettom jesus christ

ornate wagon
#

lol im that offtank

umbral forge
#

@sick sentinel DM it to me.

vocal skiff
#

So, nelf or dwarf

neon tangle
#

@ornate wagon what class is your other tank?

vocal skiff
#

lmao

umbral forge
#

nelf

ornate wagon
#

DK

neon tangle
#

wtf

#

make them tank the mage

ornate wagon
#

i know lol

neon tangle
#

seriously, my guild is BDK/Prot Warr, my prot warrior co-tank only sits on the mage long enough for my stacks to drop

exotic spoke
#

@lusty grotto I agree man. Female space goat or bust

neon tangle
#

plus you get more benefit from the damage buff

#

vs BDK

ornate wagon
#

yeah it gets sketchy when im 12-13 stacks of mage crap, BDK can go up to like 23ish

#

but i can tank mestrah through the debuff ezpz

sick sentinel
#

Spell reflect first and last fireball

umbral forge
#

I should change my pfp

#

I'm joining a new guild I don't want them to think I'm what I am

honest canopy
#

Lul

neon tangle
#

@lusty grotto both of the toons I play are undead

#

and I don't know how to feel about it

honest canopy
#

Tricked Vic to join u

#

Then leaving

umbral forge
#

Someone had to replace me

#

🀷

sick sentinel
#

That's scumbaggy as hell

sand egret
#

ol' bait and switch

honest canopy
#

πŸ˜‚

#

Panda or bust

sick sentinel
#

Meanwhile

#

I'm trying to pull a guilford on my guild

umbral forge
#

Eh, Vic fits in nicely.

lusty grotto
#

undead is ok sadbox, dont be sad

umbral forge
#

He still has a lot to learn and he got to progress further than ever before in it

lusty grotto
#

i think my horde rogue will be undead

neon tangle
#

started with the undead DK, felt more appropriate to the class

sick sentinel
#

There's a paladin that parses SINGLE DIGITS

neon tangle
#

and then I made a rogue, and rogues have to be undead

umbral forge
#

@neon tangle don't play Forsaken warrior lol, literally worst class combination

honest canopy
#

@sick sentinel

umbral forge
#

@sick sentinel and a healer!

lusty grotto
#

you know its a good idea sadbox

honest canopy
lusty grotto
#

when jettom doesn't like it

honest canopy
#

I hav done it

neon tangle
#

v true

honest canopy
#

Its done

neon tangle
#

@umbral forge I'm prolly going to race-change my warrior to undead if I ever play it again

sick sentinel
#

Translate pls

neon tangle
#

but I'm working on retiring from tanking

#

and lol dps warrior

lusty grotto
#

i believe it says Nightborne males are shit

#

the other dude agrees

#

excuse me, it says Draenei males are shit

honest canopy
lusty grotto
#

pardon me, my linguistics is broken

honest canopy
#

I am asking rl

umbral forge
#

its in Swedish

lusty grotto
#

liar

honest canopy
#

If I am coming prot now

umbral forge
#

Hey Nikkj did you hear about my taxi ride?

honest canopy
#

He confirms

lusty grotto
#

this is why i love not being in a guild

#

but then again i was always officer/leader

#

but fuck that shit asking if i could do x

neon tangle
#

I ended up as an officer

lusty grotto
#

i do what i want damn it, i pay my sub

honest canopy
#

So i ha e pulled a Guilford πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

lusty grotto
#

what did guilfart do now

umbral forge
#

I just want to kill the last boss on the hardest difficulty

sick sentinel
#

Nim

#

Pulling a guilford

#

Is when you join a guild a dps

#

And end up a tank

lusty grotto
#

ah

sick sentinel
#

On purpose

#

Overtake them from within

lusty grotto
#

i missed that memo apparently

#

good ole guilfart

umbral forge
#

There's so many good races on Alliance

#

Then there's Pandaren who is good on both factions

#

What does Horde have?

#

Two variants of elves and bovines.

honest canopy
#

Highmountain and Undeads

lusty grotto
#

Guaranteed replies

neon tangle
#

undead, orcs, trolls, tall trolls, cows, antler cows

modern ocean
#

Goblin female slutmogs

umbral forge
#

oof

honest canopy
#

Pandaren or lightforged spacegoat as alliance

#

All cool

lusty grotto
#

goblin female grunts and moans made me laugh... until Motherload happened

neon tangle
#

female mag'har pretty good

lusty grotto
#

now im just bored of them

neon tangle
#

I like the long pontail hair for them

honest canopy
#

Look at this face

lusty grotto
#

chef nimchip has the Soccer Mom 'do

honest canopy
#

Tell me hes not awesome

umbral forge
#

@honest canopy wanna do a +14 ToS?

lusty grotto
#

wait

honest canopy
#

No just feed The baby

lusty grotto
#

today is tuesday

modern ocean
#

Orc female got worst moans, u need that addon to disable specific sounds before you uninstal game

lusty grotto
#

time to roll the bracer/boot chest

honest canopy
#

I am on around 0500

#

Cloakchest plz

lusty grotto
#

you shut your mouth Djozaa

fresh valley
#

i still need pants from my chest

#

zero pant drops from my chest all season

#

416 ilvl, 400 pants

honest canopy
#

πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

modern ocean
#

Each swing or ability is like they trying to unload huge chunk from ass

lusty grotto
#

Djozaa that's enough

honest canopy
#

Just use The transmorpher

lusty grotto
modern ocean
#

Haha

umbral forge
#

@lusty grotto I wish you were EU

honest canopy
#

A d pray for solarian

#

Solarian best moans

lusty grotto
#

eh

#

scholomance babe

#

with the thunder thighs

umbral forge
#

@sick sentinel if @honest canopy doesn't join my +14 ToS I will enchant my weapon with Siphoning

honest canopy
#

I am still hoping for that 5x prot to happen

sick sentinel
#

@oblique garnet make it happen

honest canopy
#

Just need +1

sick sentinel
#

I think I should get your battletags

umbral forge
#

Hey I'm up for it

lusty grotto
#

what time is it on EU

#

like morning or what

honest canopy
#

2355

umbral forge
#

Considering I outdps'ed nikkj on my alt it should be daijobou

sick sentinel
#

1AM here

oblique garnet
#

hm?

lusty grotto
#

ok so early as fuck morning

honest canopy
#

I do more dps as prot then fury. Stop hate

fresh valley
#

i go prot for trash pull in raids because it's better dps

severe zinc
#

do you need combat reses to do death skips this expansion?

#

no pylon etc?

lusty grotto
#

hmm so 6 hours difference just about

sick sentinel
#

pylons do not work anymore

honest canopy
#

I have 10-30 fury logs. I dont know how to dps. Orange as prot. Less hate.

severe zinc
#

i know the legion pylons dont work, but is there another way to death skip solo

sick sentinel
#

shadowmeld

fresh valley
#

shadowmilfs?

severe zinc
#

my dark iron is so cool though 😦

lusty grotto
#

that's not death skipping though

#

budget vanish okay?

honest canopy
#

Get a soulstone πŸ™ˆ

tired pivot
#

how's the 50% thunderclap nerf going to affect warrior relative to the other top tank specs

lusty grotto
tired pivot
#

will it still be wanted?

sick sentinel
fresh valley
#

we'll still be clapping away

honest canopy
severe zinc
#

πŸ‘

lusty grotto
#

pins πŸ‘’ 🍡 πŸ‘ pins

exotic spoke
#

@lusty grotto what’s this about a nerf?

tired pivot
#

I see, so it's not a big nerf then

lusty grotto
#

?

exotic spoke
#

Directions unclear. Uninstalling WoW

neon tangle
#

@tired pivot Wait until the next season happens, nobody knows

lusty grotto
#

lol

umbral forge
#

bye

#

I hope he pulls a Nim

neon tangle
#

the BDK channel was full of "BDK WILL STILL BE TOP TIER, NOBODY PANIC"

lusty grotto
#

the real nerf will be reaping going away

umbral forge
#

Where are they, now?

exotic spoke
#

Thats true nim

honest canopy
#

@tired pivot you Will find us all at Druid Discord

stark fox
#

Rezan's or Gore Crusted? Using 1 of them and the Opul trinket.

umbral forge
#

Implying 50% of the people here are warrior mains

honest canopy
#

Dont you see The #Druid-lvling-channel?

oblique garnet
#

I never play my warrior

#

I only experiment with it

umbral forge
#

no i don't

lusty grotto
#

h..hey, im a warrior main since vanilla 😦

sick sentinel
#

yeah everybody here is rerolling to guardian

neon tangle
#

@tired pivot tl;dr the new essences + the new affix will play a huge role in deciding what ends up being top tier next season

umbral forge
#

@oblique garnet you try to make me cry

oblique garnet
#

Yes

#

Also why was i tagged

umbral forge
#

"Oh a 14 ML, Late is tanking this will be eas-"

lusty grotto
#

im not rerolling to guardian

exotic spoke
#

Ditto nim. I have a warrior at max level and that’s it. My second character to 110 last expac was a second warrior

lusty grotto
#

bye guys

umbral forge
#

Late experiments

lusty grotto
#

πŸ—ž 🐻

exotic spoke
#

Wait - why are we refilling!

honest canopy
#

Late doing pulls

exotic spoke
#

Rerolling - is it the apocalypse

oblique garnet
#

Yeah nim we had fun time doing motherlode at 6 am

lusty grotto
#

riki we need to recuirt

umbral forge
#

it was fun

honest canopy
#

Fun

umbral forge
#

I actually had fun

honest canopy
#

I was taking morning shit got tagged, jumped The car did drive to The office at 05am just to game

exotic spoke
#

For the prot channel Nim? Is everyone else abandoning us?
SHUN THE NON-BELIEVERS

honest canopy
#

As fury

lusty grotto
#

we cant let our skyhold guild crumble on itself

honest canopy
#

Fun is a strong Word here

lusty grotto
#

that pesky dreamgrove guild ninja'ing our dudes

#

time to recruit

sick sentinel
#

I want to get @honest canopy @umbral forge and @oblique garnet 's battletags pmed pls

#

so we can thunderclap in unison

lusty grotto
#

Need a fun guild? We do 50%party, some leech and quotes of the day. PM Nimchip or Riki <Skyhold>

honest canopy
#

You mean mangle in unison

oblique garnet
#

Im not gonna reroll into a guardian

exotic spoke
#

More BootyClaps!

oblique garnet
#

im gonna reroll into bdk

exotic spoke
#

Fuck the Druids!

sand egret
#

it's not a reroll...iff you mained it

lusty grotto
#

πŸ—ž πŸ»πŸ—ž πŸ»πŸ—ž πŸ»πŸ—ž πŸ»πŸ—ž πŸ»πŸ—ž πŸ»πŸ—ž πŸ»πŸ—ž πŸ»πŸ—ž 🐻

sick sentinel
#

that was fast

exotic spoke
#

Please ignore that my avatar is literally a bear

sick sentinel
#

nice

oblique garnet
#

Nim wanna hear what tank classes i will be maintaining on next tier?

umbral forge
#

Prot Warrior?

sand egret
#

Earth Elemental

#

nexxxxt

oblique garnet
#

^

#

Prot , Bear and VDH

honest canopy
#

+1

lusty grotto
#

jesus christ

honest canopy
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VDH

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Spikes

sand egret
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VDH is going to be my shit in 8.2

oblique garnet
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i just asked my co-tank what classes he wants to play

honest canopy
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I did in fact main VDH in Legion, after my shaman died

oblique garnet
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he wants to play pally i dont

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and his bdk is more geared than mine

sand egret
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that Shear buff today plays into exactly what I was saying earlier....they're starting to hit more knobs with their baseline

sick sentinel
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currently doing an WQ sweep on my DH πŸ‘Œ

honest canopy
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πŸ‘Œ

sick sentinel
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neck is 44

oblique garnet
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casual

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why not 50

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smh

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nub

sand egret
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Forever39

honest canopy
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I just got Pandaren to 48

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Thats why i am speculating in alts

neon tangle
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I think my DK is 46 and I can't be fucked to do anything else with it

lusty grotto
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still waiting for those Arms changes

honest canopy
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If I just played one warrior id been 50 in february no joke

oblique garnet
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The vision of perfection essence on arms

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just randomly bladestorms

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10/10

lusty grotto
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"hey lets buff frost, for no fucking reason"

honest canopy
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It must be nerfbatted

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Did you see The details of it

sick sentinel
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already nerfed

lusty grotto
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lets ignore a class without any utility

oblique garnet
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You sneeze and go into bladestorm 10/10

honest canopy
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The essence itdelf doing 50%

sick sentinel
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it's at 35% duration now

umbral forge
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Prot Warrior should get bladestorm

honest canopy
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Of the total damage

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πŸ™ˆπŸ˜‚

neon tangle
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@lusty grotto I mean, it's not doing great dps-wise

honest canopy
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I cant decide in VDH or Guardian

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I tank with that BDK

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So not that. Cba paladin, only wanna play hpaladin If paladin.

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The last AK comes today right

oblique garnet
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yes

honest canopy
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Cool

exotic spoke
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So, seriously regarding the pins, that doesn’t seem so bad.

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Especially since we’ll be potentially getting major boosts to dps if current essences remain

lusty grotto
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shhh riki

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dont spoil it

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let the rerolls go

exotic spoke
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I mean

Fuck that nerf right nim?

lusty grotto
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lol

neon tangle
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@exotic spoke my only real takeaway from 8.0 -> 8.1 is that nobody knows until shit happens

oblique garnet
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Why would anyone even like playing warrior wtf

lusty grotto
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yes late

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youre right

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i think i should reroll for the first time in my life

exotic spoke
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@neon tangle I’d agree. Pre essence that’s not a huge nerf overall. So we shall see

lusty grotto
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and get a new main

oblique garnet
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legit havent had so many intense wrist pains since i stopped playing starcraft

honest canopy
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#druid-lvling-channel

lusty grotto
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i think i shall reroll combat rogue

honest canopy
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Mmm

lusty grotto
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surely it will never be nerfed

warm plinth
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Impossible for combat to be nerfed.

lusty grotto
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nothing at all is gonna happen

warm plinth
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Can predict with 100% certainty that it will never happen.

lusty grotto
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yes i agree

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also maybe resto druid

honest canopy
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Rogues allways gonna have a top specc

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S tier for sure, allways

lusty grotto
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just S tier classes np

honest canopy
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Dont even remmeber when that was t The case

lusty grotto
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gonna soothe as bear np

warm plinth
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You can already soothe as bear

lusty grotto
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yup nothing bad is gonna happen

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exactly

honest canopy
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Freehold+35 Inc just to soothe dogs

warm plinth
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But now...now we can REMOVE CORRUPTION

lusty grotto
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i mean resto bear

warm plinth
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Oh

honest canopy
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Malfurion is strong.