protection

[ornate wagon]

i wish those 2 x IF were BfI

[weary thorn]

IF for m+, bfi for raid

[sand egret]

I really wanna mess with 3x BoM, 1x DC, and 2x MS tbh

[ornate wagon]

I'm optimized for M+ then

[potent anvil]

I have the option to run 3 bom, but I like engi helm too much.

[sand egret]

[ornate wagon]

stats are currentlly Haste>Crit>Mast>Vers

[weary thorn]

415 engi helm haste lyfe

[potent anvil]

MS is like the best generic trait for prot imo.

[ornate wagon]

I reallllly dont like my inner traits though

2x MoG

then 1 impassive, which i love

[potent anvil]

What are your options? 1 MoG is pretty good for m+

[ornate wagon]

self reliance lol

its MoG or self reliance on both

[potent anvil]

Oh yikes

[mortal brook]

Why does that trait even exist on plate

[ornate wagon]

so i just use rallying cry almost on cooldown now to justify it

its kinda nice for bursting

[potent anvil]

Yeah not sure. I guess if you need to kite.

[mortal brook]

Even hpal ahould be standing close for mastery...

[weary thorn]

serious question: does rallying cry even affect bursting? I thought bursting is % based

[jovial haven]

I'm not sure, I would think so since fort buff affects it

[weary thorn]

The only way I could see it being beneficial is if bursting is based on base hp% and not buffed %

otherwise it wouldnt matter if you used RC or not

[mortal brook]

Sorta just increases dmg taken, like SiN lol

[old zephyr]

It's still à buff

Unless the % Damage exede 100% of your life total

Assuming you have 200k max HPs and half of that

As6currebt HPs

Curent bursting is 50% of your max HPs over the next 3 secs

That would kill you

If you get rally you go to 110 out of 210

[weary thorn]

so is the intent to use RC after you have bursting stacks, but before they tick over?

[old zephyr]

And you take 105 from burstibg

You no longer die

Is is indeed harder for the healer to keep you at high health

But easier to not die

Basically against bursting use it when someone drops low

Just don't anticipate it like you would with à straight Damage réduction

[weary thorn]

right

[old zephyr]

Same goes for Last stand

[vagrant arrow]

any good treat addon?

[chilly brook]

A trait addon?

Not necessary for prot

It’s really simple

[old zephyr]

Use à weak aura that glow when clap is available

That should do the trick

Most of the name plates addons i'cludes something cool as well

[vagrant arrow]

i need it for big pulls sometimes i cant see which mob i missed a aggro 😃

[chilly brook]

Oh threat

Ok lmao

[willow scarab]

Thoughts on the new trinket from crucible?

I got a 410 on my warrior and 415 on my monk

[ionic fern]

The healing one?

[willow scarab]

yeah

[sand egret]

If it's the one where you steal life.....that's the dream trinket

for better context, it's actually getting me to look for PUGs of that raid...

[weary thorn]

@vagrant arrow look at Plater name plates

and then you can find different profiles on wago.io for it

you can sort them by highest ranking/comments/updates etc

there are some really good options in there

[daring marlin]

yeah he did

fucker lol

@sand egret stealing health from allies is very appealing to me

Tbh on trash that seems amazing

410 55k damage and a 137k heal?

[willow scarab]

Pugs aren't that bad

[daring marlin]

1 min cd?

gimme

[willow scarab]

It took 2 pulls in my 1st pug and 3 in my second

[daring marlin]

With you in them they’re not

clearly

lul

[willow scarab]

I thought your name was familiar

[unborn island]

Is the damage increased by avatar/demo?

[daring marlin]

Doubtful

[willow scarab]

I don't think a 65k ish aoe and 150k ish heal is that good

if your gore block causes you to crit a few thunderclaps on an aoe pull that would net more damage

[arctic sedge]

would i be able to do a m+10 at ilvl401?

[willow scarab]

You could do it at 390 or even lower

[arctic sedge]

ah shit

well shouldnt be a problem then

[weary thorn]

if you know how reaping works, then you are correct it shouldnt be a problem

[arctic sedge]

that i dont

[sand egret]

i just ran a +10 on my 385 VDH last night, you should be good as Prot at 400 lol

[willow scarab]

mobs = %

every 20 % all mobs reanimate with 50% hp as ghosts

kill the ghosts and move on

[weary thorn]

all mobs from the previously killed 20%, not all of them everytime

[sand egret]

the key is finding a good place for your group to chill so the mobs run in a somewhat funneled fashion

[willow scarab]

big ghosts smash the ground, caster ghosts shoot bolts and tiny ghosts auto you for a dot

[arctic sedge]

im guessing ive got to avoid those?

[sand egret]

avoid the smashes for sure

[weary thorn]

avoid the smash, los the casters if possible

[willow scarab]

interupt caster ghosts

walk out of the smash from the big ghosts

[sand egret]

casters is the main reason you want a good spot to chill

and the lil' guys is more of a healer needs to dispel you thing

[arctic sedge]

ah sweet

[sand egret]

it's a bit intimidating at first, esp when you see all these big ass models run at you but you'll get the hang of it quick. Just watch the floor haha

[weary thorn]

reaping = prot warrior dps padding

[arctic sedge]

yeah np, thanks for the advice guys. gonna give it a go soonish

[daring marlin]

I’d just open with the trinket then avatar claps

[willow scarab]

If preparation and research are your thing then I suggest checking youtube and twitch

[sand egret]

dont stand in shit and clap and you'll be pretty set tbh

[daring marlin]

probably

idk

or after

[willow scarab]

Find out what people are doing in the key you're lookign to do

[daring marlin]

for the healing

[weary thorn]

@arctic sedge check the weekly routes on raider.io

for an idea on reaping timing

[arctic sedge]

ah sure

[weary thorn]

you can import them into a mod called MDT if you so choose

[sand egret]

(also a solid tool for being more familiar with dungeon layouts without having to actually go IN the place)

[weary thorn]

that too

has info on mobs, what cc can affect them and other shit like that

[willow scarab]

So Idol is a good trinket (yet to believe this)

and bloodmallet ranks grong as #1 now? Did it get buffed

[sand egret]

not that I've heard of

and Idol is sick in M+ environments, more so than raids imho

[arctic sedge]

i'll check it out, cheers mates

[willow scarab]

Trinkets on patchwerk

[sand egret]

hmm yeah idk

[willow scarab]

I guess I have the idol so I might as well test it

the heal saves you like 1 boss auto and the damage is the same as 3 thunder claps critting once

very.... eh

[strong forum]

Isnt it like 300k heal

[willow scarab]

8.5 damage * 7 = 60k

60k * 250% heal

150k

300k would change everything

[supple path]

1 boss auto: where you are sitting down with your back to the mob

[willow scarab]

No I do 20s and tyrannical exists

jaina also autos for 120k+ on mythic

[arctic sedge]

So I'm guessing that Grong's Primal Rage is a good trinket for m+?

[willow scarab]

"autos"

[strong forum]

No it's not

[willow scarab]

The screenshot I showed is for single target dps

[arctic sedge]

ah shit

[willow scarab]

pure dps, ignoring all other elements including survivability

You want to get a gladiator's badge / vial / rezan';s eye / gore block / diamond for M+

or similar

[weary thorn]

on aoe anchor gets much better

[arctic sedge]

yeah ive got gore block

[willow scarab]

doesn't have time to stack up on tyr weeks

but anchor is nice to play with

[arctic sedge]

but i dont have any other good tanking trinkets

[weary thorn]

sure, but its fort week so its still dece

[arctic sedge]

cuz they dont wanna drop for me

[willow scarab]

can you post a screenshot of all your trinket options

[arctic sedge]

grong, howler, deck and gore block

[weary thorn]

ilvls?

[dense flame]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/213770533769052162/568849553189765120/wtfisthis.JPG

[willow scarab]

So you're not normally a tank aye

[dense flame]

[willow scarab]

Jes and gore block given your skillset

Is the choice

[arctic sedge]

400, 375, 355 and 390 respectively

[dense flame]

Imagine when other tanks look at this image

And just see TC spam

[weary thorn]

i dunno if I'd take 375 howler over 400 rage

[willow scarab]

He's never done a 10 before

and doesn't main prot

I think survivability is key

[arctic sedge]

i main prot

ive just returned to the game like 3 weeks ago

so im trash

[weary thorn]

I dont think a 375 howler would save you in a 10+

just my opinion tho

[willow scarab]

1 versatility > 0 vers

I would play with the grong as well

but that's with my experience as a player

and @dense flame doesn't that make you want to get less haste? I've gotten as high as 143% and.... that much clappnig isn't fun

[arctic sedge]

i'll give it a go with the grong

if i die all the time im gonna take howler

[willow scarab]

use it with avatar and shield block up first

and demo shout

[dense flame]

Idk, I find the clapping damage to be pretty awesome.

[willow scarab]

it's just the single button spam that feels like bad game play to me

so boring

[weary thorn]

what was going on that you didnt need to have any mitigation for the first 8 seconds?

[dense flame]

I can see that sure.

[willow scarab]

I'm thinking about reducing my haste so when every single proc is up I get exact gcd clap

because 143% is so much wasted haste

[daring marlin]

I like going crit tbh

Though I’m Fury in raid so

[willow scarab]

I was leaning towards crit or mastery

[daring marlin]

It just kinda happens that way since I share gear lol

[willow scarab]

I just did the calculations and I have around 4k in haste procs

2x overwhelm 2x meticulous 1x 425 rezan 1x quick nav

5k with RNG trait

[dense flame]

That’s big haste

[willow scarab]

I'm doing more math

75% proc, 42% base with into the fray

so 147 with lust

How is this suppose to scale into next tier? 147% haste?

[daring marlin]

lol

yeesh

[willow scarab]

Even higher if someone has bonded souls

[potent anvil]

I dont think you can actually get wasted haste, per se. I have around 145%+ with procs as well, as far as gameplay wise goes...sure spamming Thunderclap on CD is a bit boring, but you also get the benefits from that much haste like stringing together 6 shield blocks, and reducing your CDs via AM even more from the rage generation, etc.

[willow scarab]

Isn't it wasted though? If clap is at GCD with say 90% haste or 123% (for example, i don't know when it hits gcd) isn't that 57% and 24% wasted haste respectively?

[potent anvil]

When looking at Thunderclap? sure, but you dont lose benefits from having more haste. And for Tclap to hit 1.1s, its like 140% or something with avatar going. You're going against the 0.75s GCD anyway at that point.

But things like diamond trinket gets reduced to like 3.8s per refresh...shield block is like 6s or less, etc.

You can focus on other stats for sure, but you still benefit from haste regardless.

[willow scarab]

The point about diamond is interesting, I never use diamond so I didn't even realize it was reduced by haste

I'm going to play around with some different builds and see how it feels in comparrison

[tired cove]

@potent anvil

[potent anvil]

@tired cove

[outer dew]

[winter aspen]

[supple acorn]

Hello! How would I use logs and other resources to objectively evaluate a tank's performance? It's super straightforward for dps, but I am not sure how to evaluate tanks in this way.
I have a few raid members questioning our MT, and I don't exactly know how to review this person in order to offer any kind of advice.

[weary thorn]

could always post the log to #449510248579858432

[supple path]

Few different things to check, yeah. % of blocked hits, CD usage, proper ability ratios (e.g. not too many devastates), etc.

[stark fox]

How do you skip the 5 pack in Kings Rest near the 3rd boss

[supple acorn]

Hrm. It seems log review for a tank is a skillset that requires knowing that class pretty well. I'll wander on over to Log-Review.

[stark fox]

I know you can shroud in, but how do you death skip it out

[wary lantern]

ilvl king, or 395 crit/haste / OR 400 vers/mastery

[weary thorn]

@supple acorn throw the log in that channel with your question on how you could offer advice, with the caveat that you are not a tank and are looking for pointers to pass along

that way those who have time to help know how to give you the feedback

[supple path]

I think you just have tank run it across the bridge as group goes over to Zul, Myopik, though I may be missing something.

[stark fox]

Cool, I just didn't know which direction to pull them

so you just grab them and leap down the bridge?

[supple path]

That's my understanding anyhow, though I've only seen it in MDI, not done it myself. Never have rogues for my KR runs, very sad.

[stark fox]

invis pots work n KR fine

[weary thorn]

invis pots

[stark fox]

;p

[dense flame]

Since my guild didn’t do the stacking boss method. Just wanted to know the tank movement for first boss in crucible while stacking. Relic procs, etc

[austere oar]

we did crown trident stone

[dense flame]

For each boss?

[austere oar]

yeah crown crown tri tri sto sto

didnt look for much

[dense flame]

Does there appear to be any benefit of not having them stacked?

For mythic

Trying to figure out why my guild kept them separate.

[austere oar]

well you have to let a range tank the boss which does damage based on distance from him to his tank

[weary thorn]

only thing I can think of is to reduce chance of pulling aggro off range tank

[austere oar]

so if you need to let the 2nd boss as far away as possible from his ranged tank

you'd need to let minimal cleave

should be a heavy ranged oriented fight in M

[daring marlin]

I want that mastery trinket so bad

on all my characters

sheeeeeit

@weary thorn you won’t ever pull threat off ranged tank

They get a massive threat boost

[dense flame]

Yeah I’m lost to why we kept separate.

Oh well. Like you said range fight

[lucid bough]

https://imgur.com/a/HtIXAHc on my prot pala

pepehands

[long peak]

2 rezan's, 1 with leech and 1 with a socket same ilvl, which should i use?

[undone sun]

Socket

[sick sentinel]

Fucking god

[long peak]

ty

[sick sentinel]

I need to really try CoS

[austere oar]

fun raid

gonna be tough in M

[chilly brook]

Are you freakin kidding me

They’re bringing thrall back to solve the hordes problems

Garrosh 2.0 anyone?

[mortal brook]

he looks like his dad now 😄

[daring marlin]

@chilly brook bring back the true warchief the horde deserves

Garrosh

[chilly brook]

@daring marlin you right

Orc or bust

[undone sun]

Break thrall glass incase of bad expac

👏

[chilly brook]

Lmao

Break illidan glass in case of good xpac

[undone sun]

oof

[chilly brook]

RIP Nim never forget

[daring marlin]

What happened? lol

[oblique garnet]

Dunno

[chilly brook]

He left

He’s done with the game

[daring marlin]

lol

He’ll be back

[chilly brook]

Won’t we all?

[undone sun]

Even I came back

[arctic sedge]

so the first boss in crucible

is it a bug or something that the boss tanks are tanking gets immune to taunts?

[mortal brook]

taunt immunity happens when you taunt too often

[arctic sedge]

wtf since when was that a feature

[mortal brook]

its subject to diminishing returns like any cc

for like, ever

[arctic sedge]

ive never encountered that before

at least thgat explains it

[mortal brook]

should still be 5 taunts within i think 30s before they're immune. that's been a thing since Wrath. before that it was 3 taunts in that same interval, because taunt efficacy reduced by 50% instead of 35% each time

[arctic sedge]

we taunt at 3 stacks this time around for the first boss

idk if thats too few to swap at tho

icyveins says 4

[mortal brook]

give it an extra second or 2 each interval then, should be np

debuff is 8s right?

[arctic sedge]

think so

[mortal brook]

so you're just clipping the DR

[arctic sedge]

i'll taunt later on then

[mortal brook]

def havent had such an active taunt swap in a while

[arctic sedge]

ive never had it before

didnt know it was a thing, honestly

[mortal brook]

weird to think of a taunt as a crowd control right? 😄

[chilly brook]

Been a thing for as long as I can remember

Although

Back in my day

We had aoe taunts

[mortal brook]

was a lot worse before the change in wrath

aoe taunts, and taunts off cd, or taunts off friendlies that multi taunted :kreygasm:

[inland mesa]

We did 4 and 1 shot the boss if you're talking about first crucible boss

I cant wait for uunat mythic, said no one ever, star auger mechanic back? Yikes

[mortal brook]

uunat mythic looks like the most clusterfuck boss ive ever seen

absolutely chocked full of rng combo'd with our favorite mechanic - ones where a single person fucks up and everyone dies 👏 '

[arctic sedge]

sweet

yeah my group just sucked

blaming tanks for not picking up the ranged guy

[mortal brook]

wat

[arctic sedge]

yeah exactly that

then you know people dont read up on what they are meant to do

[mortal brook]

i know we havent had a ranged tank since what, Gruul's Lair? but cmon

oh right, lock tank on illidan p3

ICC had one on blood council maybe?

[umbral forge]

Yea

[lime basalt]

is there ever a time to cast an un procced revenge?

[sick sentinel]

yes if you dont need that rage for survival you can use it for damage for ST its really low damage increase compared to devestate for aoe its good to use it cause THE DEEPS

[lime basalt]

10-4

[sick sentinel]

if its a melee heavy pull like most of the pulls in m+ i just use it even if its not free

but if i need it for block or IP i just keep and cast shield slam or something

[mortal brook]

filler when you arent' SB or IP but you still have rage to dump. still works with Anger Management so has value

[sick sentinel]

@potent anvil with 200% haste thunderclap cd becomes equal to your gcd during avatar

[potent anvil]

imagine reaching 200%

[sick sentinel]

Thunderclap every single gcd

[dense flame]

Imagine not getting new trinkets week 1 feelsbadman

[warm plinth]

I wonder how they're going to prevent a single 120 from coming and trashing the event

If a funeral was crashable, surely a charity event is :/

[atomic crystal]

This might be a stupid question but I just took over tanking. On Rasta phase 3 transition and you’re tanking Bwonsamdi - what do you key off of to gtfo of Bwonsamdi before you get sucked into death realm but not so early you drag Bwonsamdi over your raid and fuck up the groups? I managed it but didn’t feel super repeatable

[silk mortar]

It feels like you bringing up this will cause that to happen

But yeah things can get pretty messed up

[warm plinth]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[mortal brook]

@atomic crystal he stands still when he's casting the sucking down ability

[sick sentinel]

@lime basalt you want to. Cast revenge ASAP on a aoe pull st least once to spread deep wounds

Sb and IP takes priority ofc

Also if you have an ignore pain tracker (you should btw) then you can cast a not-free-revenge if you are going to cap rage but your IP is almost full

[inland mesa]

What charity event

[modern forum]

which trinket I should farm for prot ?

Im not raiding rn so I have to use dungeon ones

but I have 400 diamond

[surreal stump]

lazy rezens, clickie howl

sorry im eating so my typing is even worse than normal

[inland mesa]

For m+? Block rezan vial is good too

[modern forum]

I saw a warrior in warcraftlogs using 2 active trinkets is it really good

[inland mesa]

Granted I use 420 diamond. 410 Rezan most of the time for 20s

[surreal stump]

active trinkets can be very good as u use them spread out like mini cooldowns but depends on how you feel about trinket management honestly

i like howl cause it buffs everyone not just me. but havent got a new one yet

[inland mesa]

Knot off tree boss is good as well

[modern forum]

I have 420 knot Im currenly using that and diamond

Im thinking about change that for vial

[inland mesa]

What ilvl is vial

[modern forum]

400

[sick sentinel]

I would never take a 420 knot off

Its absolutely nuts

Also vial IS NOT A GOOD TRINKET

[mortal brook]

hell that knot should almost always line with an ava

[sick sentinel]

Vial is a trap

[surreal stump]

goosefrabba

[sick sentinel]

It looks nice, until you realize how it actually works

[modern forum]

my gear is like this

dont mind the reckless flury

[sick sentinel]

That shield tho holy shit

I really, really do not like your helmet

[inland mesa]

Mine war forged to 415 this week but I cant take off for 420 blockade

[sick sentinel]

Makes me wanna puke

[inland mesa]

Crit enchants?

[sick sentinel]

Str gem?

[mortal brook]

crit can sim ahead of haste on ST

[sand egret]

Warrior?

[sick sentinel]

You need to go get haste enchants and a haste gem

[modern forum]

shouldnt I use 1 main stat gem ?

[mortal brook]

that str gem tho

you should sim it 😄

[sick sentinel]

Str gem is not good

[inland mesa]

Why dont you like vial

[sick sentinel]

@mortal brook this is not #fury my dude, doesn't solve anything

[modern forum]

Im playing all the specs of wariror

[sick sentinel]

Well

A str gem is bad for all specs

especially fury

[modern forum]

thats why I have reckless flurry on chest 😄

[surreal stump]

how much str does it even give these days?

[modern forum]

I used crit gems to get more damage I have %23 haste without into the fray buff

these are my stats btw

[mortal brook]

is that the riot helmet? would think tradewinds would be beating reprisal

[modern forum]

yes it is

[sick sentinel]

Crit enchants are alright

[modern forum]

I will reforge but waiting to down the cost 😄

[sick sentinel]

Both bs and cr are garbo tier though

only 1% leech

[mortal brook]

id sim it against CR but apparently this isnt #fury ^.^

[sick sentinel]

@mortal brook yes, because aoe will be completely different than patchwerk

And the difficulty of the content matters

[mortal brook]

run 2 separate sims?

[sick sentinel]

If you can use revenge over ip in some situations

Or cast ip over revenge

[modern forum]

btw I have helm of abyssal malevolence too

[sick sentinel]

If you can dump all your rage to rebenge then CR becomes a lot better than tradewinds, but if you have to spend on IP to survive them tradewind's value rises

[modern forum]

but I saw some warriors using 2 blothport

[mortal brook]

abyssal has dc/bom/op 😮

[sick sentinel]

They have absolutely no idea what they are doing

[inland mesa]

Some choose to run 2 on ml and shrine higher level keys or may be best they have

[sick sentinel]

Yes but thats 2 out of 10 dungeons

[inland mesa]

I know just saying why he might have seen it

[sick sentinel]

No he saw all the absolute mongos running the leech build

[inland mesa]

I have a 19 AD and siege in group this week, is this week really as bad as they say

Lol leech

[red wedge]

Quaking is the silent killer.

[sick sentinel]

Ad 19 was free

With a good route

[modern forum]

atal is good this week

[inland mesa]

Bursting quaking sauroks isnt cancer?

[sick sentinel]

Saurids hurt

[modern forum]

Idk how is at 19

[sick sentinel]

But the way you do it

[modern forum]

but at 14-16 its easy

[sick sentinel]

Is that you cc big birds

[modern forum]

If dps knows how to stop

[sick sentinel]

Kill saurids

[mortal brook]

only 5 stacks regardless. bursting doesnt get any worse the higher the key

[sick sentinel]

Then pull many birds

[daring marlin]

Shao Kahn hype

[modern forum]

next week easy push just reminding

[red wedge]

But a high stack of bursting with a bad RNG quaking can screw you out of nowhere.

[inland mesa]

Yeah gotta time some 20s next week hopefully

[sick sentinel]

Anything is free in the 14-16 range tho 🤔

[daring marlin]

MK11 just has to come out during next week

[red wedge]

That's the main reason I think this week sucks. Just that quaking RNG.

[daring marlin]

on top of bursting

otherwise who cares

[red wedge]

Well, we might not, but quaking can screw CD timings and things.

If your healer gets knicked at the wrong time, and you're forced to use CDs when you dont want to.

[inland mesa]

Is siege bad? My best key is still a 17 timed holding my io down D:

[sick sentinel]

I haven't done it this week but it probably is

[red wedge]

Frustrates me that the minions in KR still give bursting. ;p

[sick sentinel]

People running and killing stuff with spotter and fucking you over with sanguine

Siege next week is going to be nice

Enrage a spotter and let him go ham

[mortal brook]

bring 2 spotters!

[modern forum]

will you guys think 8.2 will kill warrior ?

[mortal brook]

nah dude

[modern forum]

I dont think so even with that nerf

still tanky af and will do damage

[inland mesa]

Depends on affix

[mortal brook]

its not a big nerf, and essences are gonna make up for it

[sick sentinel]

We are still the best mitigation tank

[mortal brook]

though bears may compete with their buffs. but prob not

[modern forum]

Agreed Im a dk main and warrior feels like taking no damage

[sick sentinel]

We will be a lot worse if the new affix requires utility

Like for example infested did

[mortal brook]

tankadins prob pull ahead in that scenario

[small narwhal]

tankadins might pull ahead anyway, they scale really well

[inland mesa]

Yup, damage doesnt mean as much if you have to constantly slow down. Why were so good is this tier is aoe go ham fest

[mortal brook]

not to mention they're the other tank getting an offensive Visions

[inland mesa]

Whats our offensive vision, did they say how much it'll cost to swap to tanky one for raid offensive for m+?

[daring marlin]

Wings is no avatar

[mortal brook]

can swap with a tome or in a rest area, no crazy costs

[inland mesa]

Nice

[modern forum]

btw why some ppl using Devastator in raids ?

[mortal brook]

wings is def no avatar, but imagine it being tied to VB or SI pog.

[sick sentinel]

Devastator is an st dps increase

[mortal brook]

and less apm to worry about 😄

[sick sentinel]

But way worse for surv

If you look at their traits they also have 3rf, 2tc and 1 dc

Or something along the lines of that

[mortal brook]

idk, may pull ahead on surv with the minor essence that gives attack speed. gonna be more SS rage gen, will play well with a BFI for block uptime

[sick sentinel]

The thing about deva

In legion it gave rage, now it doesn't

In legion SS was 20 rage

Now it's 15

[mortal brook]

used to do dmg too lol

[daring marlin]

It also wasn’t in the same tier as BV

errr

[sick sentinel]

Bov

[mortal brook]

prots with gloves on, so much threat to compete against lol

[sick sentinel]

Also gloves

[daring marlin]

Pally damage/threat in legion

omega

[mortal brook]

esp with that one set piece

[sick sentinel]

Captain America

[daring marlin]

I wish they’d give that one trait back

[sick sentinel]

Ranged tank

[daring marlin]

That did the AoE on each avenger’s shield hit

ludicrous

[mortal brook]

that one was so nice

sephuz/boots tankadin was hilarious

[daring marlin]

with seraphim

zoom zoom

[sick sentinel]

I don't have a paladin to test this but

Have you done paladin TW?

[daring marlin]

Yep

[sick sentinel]

You can use traits+leggys

[daring marlin]

All leggos work there

yeah

[mortal brook]

and legion set bonuses as well

[daring marlin]

It’s gr8

Well

[sick sentinel]

And the trait that makes you proc more shields

[daring marlin]

A lot of their set bonuses were ehhhh

[sick sentinel]

And hit more targets

[daring marlin]

Especially antorus

[daring patrol]

anyone have a vod of a high-ish to high Waycrest or Siege being done this week? 16+ preferably

i keep missing timers and i know its DPS constantly refreshing bursting, but im wanting to see if theres any way i could be pulling better to add some extra time

[cinder jackal]

anyone know if there's a list for what spells in M+ that can be reflected for each dung?

[daring patrol]

@cinder jackal its in #268491842637660160

[vagrant arrow]

395 rezan 395 vial 400 jes

a bit confused to pick 2x 😃

[sick sentinel]

rezan+vial

[vagrant arrow]

cheers

[sick sentinel]

@undone sun is dream groove down?

[undone sun]

The website of the discord

[sick sentinel]

Discord

[undone sun]

Up for me

[sick sentinel]

Ok now it's up, was telling me there was a small outage but it's working

[ripe mason]

I'm thinking of switching to Prot, or at least using it as a secondary spec.
At the moment I main fury, but I've played Tank since Wrath so I am a lot more used to the role.
I just don't really find Prot that fun to play, should I switch?

[sick sentinel]

That's a personal question

Try it and see how u like prot

Because that's something we can't answer

[ripe mason]

Yeah, I guess you're right.

I think the thing that made prot the least fun for me was ignore pain management.

Idk, just the general defensive rotations of the spec was a little off-putting.

[sick sentinel]

Maybe back in legion at some point(?) But prot was never about IP management

[ripe mason]

Well, I wouldn't know. Only time I ever play prot is from 20-100 to level fast.

[sick sentinel]

Even now u could blow ur load if u wanted on IP and be fine so long as u managee ur CDs and Shield Block properly

[ripe mason]

So I kinda just faceroll.

[sick sentinel]

Ah

Yeah the leveling process is never clear on end game roles

[ripe mason]

But yeah, sure.

I'll chuck some hours onto Prot.

Maybe they've changed since I last played.

I am a lot more confident in my tanking abilities than my DPS abilities.

[sick sentinel]

Just remember while ur tanking u need to be proactive with CDs, not reactive

[ripe mason]

Does that mean to plan ahead?

[sick sentinel]

Pretty much

U don't use Shield Wall after taking a shit ton of damage

U use it before if u expect that damage to happen

[lusty grotto]

oh hello

[sick sentinel]

Leech

[mortal brook]

wow its nimchip

[lusty grotto]

im just wondering how many levels i should sacrifice for leech

[mortal brook]

🗞

[sick sentinel]

Beat u to it

[daring marlin]

wow he’s back

I didn’t know you left

[sick sentinel]

Drive him out

[daring marlin]

4head

[lusty grotto]

that was a short lived break from wow

[ripe mason]

Yeah, relatively similar to Blood then. Using Death Strike and such right before the damage comes to mitigate it with the shield and leech.

[lusty grotto]

yeah i was just absolutely frustrated with pugging

i have stories

[sick sentinel]

I can't speak for bdk since I've only played it once for the MT so sure

[mortal brook]

blood a lot more reactive than proactive like prot tbh

[ripe mason]

Well, it's what I've played pretty much exclusively since Wrath.

But thanks for the tips.

[lusty grotto]

fuck i gotta link my account to patreon again 😦

[sick sentinel]

Np good luck

Lol

[daring marlin]

Make friends and pug less

idiot

[ripe mason]

I'll watch a guide on Prot tomorrow and chuck some hours in some dungeons.

[lusty grotto]

its impossible guilford

so ive been running sub 15s now

better luck in that bracket

[daring marlin]

I’m on alliance and don’t have to pug

? ? ?

I thought Horde had it easier pugging wise, though?

tell us some stories

[sick sentinel]

The more people the more idiots

[lusty grotto]

people 15+ are just absolutely hellbent on being toxic little shits finger pointing all over

[sick sentinel]

So m+

[lusty grotto]

and usually the finger points to the tank

[daring marlin]

I mean that’s standard practice

[ripe mason]

Oh, wow.

[lusty grotto]

i have 3 stories that fucking got me over the edge

[ripe mason]

The hidden appearence for prot looks really nice.

[daring marlin]

I had some garbo sub 1500 dh/bdk trying to tell me what to pull once

It was hilarious

[lusty grotto]

the last one was the last straw for sure... do you know the minions on KR? yeah. You know rogues are supposed to distract them (or if you have an rdruid you mass root)?

[sick sentinel]

It's cool but I like my MT one since it fits my tmog @ripe mason

[lusty grotto]

GUESS WHOSE FAULT IT WAS WHEN THEY DIDNT GET DISTRACTED/ROOTED AND YOU HAD TO PULL THEM WITH THE LAST PACK

[daring marlin]

hah

[lusty grotto]

👈

[daring marlin]

Yours duh

[sick sentinel]

It was ur fault

[lusty grotto]

you both win

[trim bay]

Blame the priest

Even if it's not I the group

[lusty grotto]

fuck priests on these affixes

[daring marlin]

Hpriest has some serious hps my dude

[lusty grotto]

yeah you said it holy

[trim bay]

Haha. Holy Pally is the best healing I had with these affixs

[daring marlin]

disc lol

Well

Virtue is amazing

so

[lusty grotto]

i mean it's pugging

🤷

[trim bay]

Yea

Hit and miss

If you can get anything over a 12 done in a pug your doing good

[lusty grotto]

im 100% sure that people are this toxic because they want the 15s for the achieve

[trim bay]

More than likely

[lusty grotto]

ran some with Yamo's DH today, kinda got my spirits up

[daring marlin]

Hunter guildie btw

[lusty grotto]

also

i might leave again

but its only because i dont want endgame spoilers

[daring marlin]

Don’t you do it

[lusty grotto]

because last time someone fuckign spoiled TLJ here

[daring marlin]

just don’t read here until you see it

[mortal brook]

see it the thursday night tbh

[chilly brook]

@lusty grotto you’re back!!!! ❤️

[undone sun]

👌

[chilly brook]

Also tbh it’s not like you can spoil a bad movie like TLJ anyways

[daring marlin]

HAH

[lusty grotto]

heh

[sand egret]

AHEM

Luuuucy....you have some esplainin' to doo.....

[lusty grotto]

last 3 runs i did

and i think i told this one to yamo

[sand egret]

:this-guy:

casually breaks hearts, and comes back in here like the Fonz.

would expect nothing more from a guy who tmogs like that.

[daring marlin]

I need trinkets on my pally

[brave mauve]

I hate this game.

[daring marlin]

so I can be a glimmerdin

ya love to see it

:^)

[hushed cobalt]

Is devastator damage affected by weapon speed?

[lusty grotto]

ML 16? shrouded pack up to mid.
Doing fine, pulled some robot dudes
as the last one was dying i accidentally pulled the assassin that we shrouded past.
didn't die, just recovered, was fine
group had an rdruid that was absolutely making us go into discord
rdruid was one of those dudes that complain about everything, claim they are absolutely the best
he body pulls the next pack and leaves group as we're finishing the 1st accidental body pull
i quit key because well its over
join a KR 16
same rdruid gets invited
i get kicked

thats story #1

[mortal brook]

ofc devastator dmg would be affected by weapon speed

[sand egret]

overall damage, yes. Individual damage instance, no.

[hushed cobalt]

Hmm!!

[mortal brook]

pug life D:

[vocal skiff]

Btw, why some people are resistant to joining discord on pugs

[lusty grotto]

join like 3 separate KRs
rogues fail at distracting minion pack in first boss room
rduidrs fail at mass rooting minion pack in first boss room
2 out of those 3 i get blamed because i pulled last pack with minions
?????

that's story #2

[vocal skiff]

I sometimes advertise with discord and I feel people shy away more

take longer to fill

[sand egret]

real answer?

they dont wanna talk to you

[mortal brook]

antisocial tendencies, belief that its not needed, wicked jams, netflix, could be anything

[lusty grotto]

i dont mind joining discord

but the way he said it just gave me a red flag

[hushed cobalt]

Minions like the transparent dispel guys?

[sand egret]

I actively avoid all Discords Nim is in

[hushed cobalt]

I'm assuming they give bursting

[lusty grotto]

of course they do

[mortal brook]

they sure do!

[vocal skiff]

I get those reasons, but I will not do things like Shrine and KR without discord lol

Even if it's a 13

I get trucked because people don't interrupt

[sand egret]

KR minions do burst.

[hushed cobalt]

I haven't done kr in awhile and thought they'd got the no-bursting treatment

[sand egret]

and it's not fun when your priest doesn't get that

O_O

[hushed cobalt]

I'm not a smart person!

[sand egret]

tbh I went in there post that patch like YEAH NO BURSTING

[hushed cobalt]

But now i know to not mass dispel, again :^)

[sand egret]

annd guess what happened

fastest KR ever

whole squad just NOPEd outta there

I don't blame em, when my ass just derps into that shit and wipes the group

[hushed cobalt]

I'm making it work! leaps in

I'm making y'all die!

[mortal brook]

nono, group of 8, you mass dispell first,take a tick, then individually dispell the next 3 before the 5 stack drops 😄

[hushed cobalt]

That's way 2 simple

I tell s priest to mass dispel

[sand egret]

not nearly dramatic enough to start off the dungeon, you need to set up some good motivation for the group. duh

[hushed cobalt]

And I mass at same time

[mortal brook]

i mean, then get feared into the giants sometime during the process sure

[sand egret]

now we're talkin

[mortal brook]

then as soon as ANYONE tags the giants, call 'ill just wipe'

then jump off the platform

[autumn cosmos]

how would you go about soaking on blockade as a prot warr btw, can you solo it like a DK can or nah

[hushed cobalt]

I wouldn't think, but bursting is los'able?

[lusty grotto]

i gotta be honest i dont remember how to relink my patreon with discord

[mortal brook]

its outrangeable

[warm plinth]

Nim is back 😄

[sand egret]

that's not Nim

that's Fakechip

[lusty grotto]

its me catfriend

[warm plinth]

Oh no

Not Fakechip

I hate Fakechip though

[hushed cobalt]

Its me zoidberg!

[sand egret]

yeah cuz the REAL Nimchip wouldn't just leave us hanging. Dark times man, warriors doing who-knows-what to get a "hit of that leech". Shit man

[signal plover]

Wait did I miss time where nimchip was gone?

Damn it

[sand egret]

Guilford was doing some shit

all i gotta say

[mortal brook]

yeah it was really peaceful tbh

[signal plover]

Quiet is nice

All these kids on my lawn

[lusty grotto]

lmao

[warm plinth]

Fakechip is worse than leech memes 😦

[sick sentinel]

@lusty grotto 👋

[daring marlin]

muh leech memes

[sick sentinel]

we missed you

[lusty grotto]

im missing the 3rd story

hmm let me try to remember

it was only 2 days guilfart

😛

[oblique garnet]

@lusty grotto I missed you bby ❤

also my neck is 50 now : )

[lusty grotto]

i guess i have a 4th story

because this one happened just now

but it wasn't pugging

ran KR 14 to get key up

guess what the fuck just happened

[sand egret]

freeze frame

[lusty grotto]

this is not a pug group goddamn

[sand egret]

he didnt get his key up

[lusty grotto]

not my key

[daring marlin]

Nim pugging

[lusty grotto]

im just gonna not run KR this week

fuck it

everyone went afk, considering pugging

... nah back to my MCU marathon

just 1 more movie to end phase 1

[sand egret]

you get to the part with Superman yet?

[lusty grotto]

yes

[sand egret]

nice

[lusty grotto]

gotta figure out this patreon shit first lmao

[dense flame]

Bro nimchip I feel your pug pain. I feel io at 1600-2000 players are probably the most toxic. Tend to jihad the group over anything.

[sick sentinel]

Fuck patreon give me ur money

[lusty grotto]

uhhh....

yeah bloodguilt

[dense flame]

Your stories were great

👍

[sick sentinel]

I've stopped tanking this season except doing +10 for the weekly on my warrior

[dense flame]

Probably my worst one was this ref pally who body pulled and bolstered boss 2x. Causes healer to leave. Pally whisper me

[lusty grotto]

jesus christ lol

[dense flame]

Says you shouldn’t queue into a group if you are going to throw key. Said I was worst tank

He ever saw

And I should die

😂

[sand egret]

TIL Pally's get Deflection

[lusty grotto]

yeah that's usually what they say

[oblique garnet]

im just playing elemental on keys this week

[sick sentinel]

I honestly don't like prot this season because everyone is prot

[lusty grotto]

have you heard this one? "YOU JUST THUNDERCLAP TO 2K"

[sand egret]

one of my fav moments in WoW is when a player who body-pulls is completely oblivious to their folly and is convinced its someone else (usually the healer due to healing aggro).

[sick sentinel]

Ugh

[dense flame]

Haha yeah.

[sick sentinel]

It's actually mind draining for me

[dense flame]

People think it’s one button spec

[sand egret]

cuz it's always them so confident that it wasn't them

[lusty grotto]

yeah blade

[sand egret]

while you as the tank just watched it all go down

like...bruh

[mortal brook]

imagine healing agro pulling mobs into combat

[sick sentinel]

"Oh wow a prot warrior, ez clap."
"Thunderclap is super good wow

[sand egret]

its my JOB to watch mobs

[dense flame]

Hahahahahaha

Too be fair

[warm plinth]

If I could leave every group that had a prot warrior in it while leveling my alts, I'd do it.

Because they all fucking suck

[lusty grotto]

eyir can you help me un sucks my patreon link, thanks

[gilded tendon]

fuk u @lusty grotto

[lusty grotto]

😢

[sick sentinel]

I love prot but I actually int in keys o. Purpose and STILL COMPLETE IT

[sand egret]

EYIR FOR PREZ

[dense flame]

I tanked on my VDH yesterday. And realized

What spike damage was again

[sick sentinel]

Lol

[dense flame]

Was only a 13 TD.

[sand egret]

badum tiss

[sick sentinel]

I honestly hate tanking because two weeks ago someone told me I was bad for not using leech gear

[dense flame]

Aye, lots of people can’t accept that keys will get fucked up if people don’t know wtf to do

[sand egret]

i mean, all the top wars do it, you baddie

[dense flame]

Healers this week we should troll. “Don’t go passed 2 stacks of bursting”

[lusty grotto]

im glad that hasn't been mentioned to me

because so help me god i will get a softban outta that interaction

[dense flame]

LOl

[daring marlin]

Where’s your leech idiot

[lusty grotto]

yes yes

[daring marlin]

It’s worth like 10 ilvls for healers

Why do you have none!?!?!?

[sick sentinel]

Dude it was the worst

[daring marlin]

Clearly it’s the same!!!!

[dense flame]

I’ve had a rager full on start calling me every racist slur in the book cause I wouldn’t do his mdi route

MDT*

[sand egret]

the one shot-rage opinion whisper post dungeons are awful cuz you really wanna respond but you know you've most likely been a) blocked and will b) not get through to them at all

[warm plinth]

How does he even know you're not white?

[lusty grotto]

was his name Brozzod-Illidan

or Chaboi-Mal'ganis

or Pleblordx-Mal'ganis?

[warm plinth]

Putting people on BLAST right now

[sand egret]

oh you know that last guy must be a HIT at parties

[dense flame]

Lmao not sure. I’ve prolly ran into too many! LMAO I have ran with pleblord

[lusty grotto]

listen lol

[dense flame]

Isn’t that a shammy

[warm plinth]

He's so edgy he put an x in his name

[lusty grotto]

yeah that guy was special kinds of toxic

[sand egret]

i knowww

prob has that as his AIM screen name

[dense flame]

Yeah they go ham.

[warm plinth]

Probably

But there's an x at the beginning too

Maybe even...xXx

[lusty grotto]

but i laughed because i got him so tilted that he fucked up on 2 different things twice and then i just mentioned those 2 things

[sand egret]

xXx_Pl3bl0rdx_XxXXxxXx

[dense flame]

Hahahahahahahahahahaha

[warm plinth]

And now I have cancer

Thanks Blade

[dense flame]

Bro that’s the best

[sand egret]

coming to you straight from Hot Topic

[warm plinth]

Oh lord

[sand egret]

(please tell me people are old enough to remember Hot Topic)

[dense flame]

I think that shammy told me to stop kiting

[warm plinth]

They still exist dude

[sand egret]

really?!

[dense flame]

@lusty grotto

[lusty grotto]

yeah they still exist

[warm plinth]

Yeah

[sand egret]

hahahah

[dense flame]

On necrotic week

[daring marlin]

Hot Topic is so bad

[sand egret]

no wayyy

[dense flame]

Cause it was fucking up his dps

[mortal brook]

hot topic. right next to the Spencers

[lusty grotto]

lol bloodguilt

[dense flame]

He said I was being autistic

[warm plinth]

Yep, probably

[daring marlin]

look at muh gauges

[dense flame]

At 30 stacks

[lusty grotto]

his friend died to spiders in last boss

[daring marlin]

Gauges are so fucking disgusting

[sand egret]

dying to spiders is classic

[lusty grotto]

so he just told me i didnt know how to do last boss

[sand egret]

cuz that's just totally on you

[sick sentinel]

I can fucking tell u for FREE hot topic exists

[lusty grotto]

AD last boss obviously

[daring marlin]

Were you kiting around the outside, though?

🤔

[warm plinth]

I read that in Eminem's voice

[sick sentinel]

Going to Manhattan is a fucking hot topic itaelf

[lusty grotto]

only when spiders came close

[dense flame]

I told him idgaf about your earthquake. So he raged. I said fine. I took 50 stacks necrotic next pull insta died just to prove a point. This guy said why didn’t you kite. 4head

[lusty grotto]

i just swaped between corners pretty much

[daring marlin]

Were you guys clearing them or nah? On higher keys we never clear spiders

[dense flame]

[lusty grotto]

no clears

at least not from what i could gather

lol bloodguilt

[sand egret]

prob thought it was a long-toss Freehold brew

[daring marlin]

LOL

[dense flame]

Oh god good times.

[lusty grotto]

like you know how you usually have 2 ranged on one side

so spiders kinda split

yeah that never happened

pugs

OH yeah i just remembered the 3rd story

it was a run i did with bull

[dense flame]

You know I’ve only done that boss baiting spiders correctly with one random group.

[daring marlin]

My range buddies HAAAAAATE yazma like that

gotta kite with us sorry bud

[dense flame]

I just wanna swap to shadow priest

[sand egret]

so funny story, I do a fun +10-12 range with my coworkers every week and I swear to god we've had maybe one AD total where it wasn't just me and the healer for the last 20%

[dense flame]

Lmao

[daring marlin]

lol

[dense flame]

Nice

[sick sentinel]

Wow

[sand egret]

they always just go

"huh, this looks familiar"

[dense flame]

Memories man. The best memories

[sick sentinel]

Just hit em with the

[lusty grotto]

lol

[sand egret]

best is last week one was surviving

and goes "IM GONNA LIVE!"

annnnnd

ANNNND

dies

i almost died laughing

[dense flame]

I got one group

[sand egret]

fun times

[daring marlin]

hah

[dense flame]

AD like 18 or 19 tyrannical. Group was chill, key was chill. We get to last boss, and they start screaming to clear spiders. I told them just chill and bait. The DH went pepega and started soaking without netherwalk. Then screamed for BR. Needless to say. We needed up not timing. I was to blame cause “non-soak strat aids”

[sand egret]

here's what I dont get

the rationalization there that:

[mortal brook]

guild carries are the best part of the week. monday night 'who needs their damn 10, dont deplete pls'

[sand egret]

"Me dying to do this is worth it"

[mortal brook]

mythic raiders btw

[dense flame]

Hahahah those keys are always most toxic. “The guildie keys”

Yeah blade

[sand egret]

I run some keys with my coworkers guild (not very good). Oh man, so they've like straight up never run with a Warrior before

[dense flame]

Don’t INT my 12 AD boys.

Get serious

[sand egret]

First time I did a fatty pull with them it was hilarious

[dense flame]

Oh man. Look what nimchip started

All of our horror stories

Just dumped into chat.

Looks like we all have same problems #tankproblems

[mortal brook]

my last shrine with guildies, they thought it was a great idea to pull spiritualists into the group of reaper casters, then not kick the heal 😄

[lusty grotto]

😦

damn

[mortal brook]

that was just the start of the wipefest

same run, we shroud past runecarver, except healer pulls runecarver, so while he's dying, the shroud runs out and the dk pulls the 4 pack after. which is fine until the healer comes back, pulling runecarver into us, which the dk frost dragons, pulling the ele and pack after the bridge....

[dense flame]

👍

[lusty grotto]

ROFL

[dense flame]

Good god

[lusty grotto]

holy shit

[mortal brook]

which we almost live through except healer dies to the carve cuz he's not in the ward, and the ele hit raging and does the storm killing everyone else 😄

[sand egret]

Love it when a plan comes together.

[mortal brook]

So at that point, we're pretty good on %, so we'll just death run after 2nd boss right? to the start of the bridge. i mentioned start of bridge at least 3 times. we death skip, healer goes to the OTHER SIDE of the bridge and goes' i cant reach you'

[frigid spire]

Hello world of Prot warriors. Would u say Prot warrior of Blood Dk what is Better to raid M raids

[sand egret]

BrM

[mortal brook]

we get to last boss area, one of the dps is like 'we should totes do that MDI thing where they kill this trash pack after 1st city' and im like 'yeah sure why not. just dont dispell the whispers and make sure kicks are good' whispers was dispelled, boss was kicked coming out of city, and the trash pack was pulled as well D:

so that was one single run with my guildies

[lusty grotto]

lol

[sand egret]

this run sounds amazing, btw

[mortal brook]

all in all, around 21k Treacherous damage. def reccommend it as a trait

[austere oar]

@frigid spire it actually depends on the fight

for example you can't run mekkatorque without a blood DK or it would be very difficult

BDK will severely outperform a warrior on the bwonsamdi part on Rastakhan also

[mortal brook]

soaking ires as well

[austere oar]

same for Kimbul on Conclave where bdk is much better, Warrior will outperform all tanks on pakku

all tanks are actually playable in Mythic, even vdh

[mortal brook]

just gotta gear enough

[austere oar]

the most versatile tank being BrM

a safe choice no matter the encounter

[mortal brook]

esp at lower ilvl

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any approx stats weight for m+ and raid?

[austere oar]

ilvl > haste

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haste? I thought haste was our best stats?

[undone sun]

Best secondary

You don't drop ilevel for haste

More stats >> better stats

Most secondaries are pretty close to begin with defensively so... ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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so this seems fair: Stamina [9.07] > Strength [7.57] > Haste [6.07] > Versatility [4.57] > Mastery [3.07] > Crit [1.57] ?

[trim bay]

So if I have a 400 ring with haste vers and a 410 ring with mastery crit use the 410?

[undone sun]

If you plan on using that for pawn or anything of the sort, I'd stop now

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Confused I am

[undone sun]

Not you

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so that means, I always pick ilvl over haste

[undone sun]

10 ilevels on rings is acceptable

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then 2 pieces with the same ilvl, I choose the one with more haste?

[austere oar]

yes

[undone sun]

But other gear slots, ilevel

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the 40 str gem is it worth it or 40 haste is better?

[mortal brook]

pawnstrings when raidbots can do your weights D:

[austere oar]

haste gem

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I have seen some warriors using a crit gem. Why would they do that over haste?

[austere oar]

dps probably

[sick sentinel]

is it true you get credit for a m+ run if you afk/disc if the rest of the group completes it?

if so this kid just did it to me, wtf

[mortal brook]

gotem

[oblique garnet]

Yes you do get credit

[graceful sundial]

how do you see prot warriors soaking Ire of the deep on m-blockeade?

[oblique garnet]

well you go in

you soak it

you go out

use spell reflect demoshout etc

[austere oar]

you'll need some healers attention since you can actually chain several soaks

they hit for around 250k iirc

[graceful sundial]

yeah my plan is to go with gemhide trait, bounding stride and maybe the rastakhan's trinket (it dropped 425 last week lol)

[lusty grotto]

alright fam looks like things are looking up

[dense flame]

You got good PUG?!?!?

[lusty grotto]

yeah

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[lusty grotto]

was AD though

[umbral forge]

Heya Nim

My healer might be in love with me

[lusty grotto]

oh

does he or she have shit taste and prefer male nightborne?

😄

[trim bay]

@lusty grotto what lvl was the AD

[umbral forge]

Female Blood Elf

[lusty grotto]

uhhh

16? i think

wait whos a female blood elf @umbral forge

[umbral forge]

My healer

[lusty grotto]

i see

[umbral forge]

I went 500 kilometers to meet him.
One thing lead to another and now I'm stranded in Stockholm.

[lusty grotto]

LOL

[trim bay]

Ah nice nice. What ilvl are you? I can pug 13s comfortably but around the 14 mark shit goes wrong

[lusty grotto]

412

[sick sentinel]

@lusty grotto you've returned

[trim bay]

Yea I'm the same. Although I did try a KR and the adds near first boss rapped me due to lack of interrupts

[lusty grotto]

yeah that will def happen without interrupts

i have weep

[sick sentinel]

welcome back

[lusty grotto]

i will be mia next week though

gotta escape those endgame spoilers

[trim bay]

What trinks do you rock for those high end ish keys if you don't mind me asking

[lusty grotto]

rezan + block

i go by what we recommend here though

i just havent gotten luck with TF/WFs or other trinkets

would def love WF/TF Rezan + Block