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lusty grotto
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yeah i remember EQOA

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i think i actually played it but didn't like it

warm plinth
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I had never been a PC gamer before; think that's why I never got into the PC version. Friends miraculously convinced me to get a computer and play WoW though so I made it here at least!

oblique garnet
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So on a scale of 1-10 how suicidal i should be about warrior nerfs?

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Is it still 1 or more inc

honest canopy
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2

lusty grotto
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Shrug late lol

brave mauve
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0 tbh

honest canopy
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But no biggie

oblique garnet
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Do i have to spec into bfi now or

honest canopy
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Smt more Will happen

oblique garnet
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Yes

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Its time to quit wow

lusty grotto
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Haha

honest canopy
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No

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Bte late

oblique garnet
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Idk civ5 is alot of fun

lusty grotto
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Late just take a break

oblique garnet
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I cant nim

honest canopy
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Our DK relative is out of order

lusty grotto
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You need it ;)

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Why

oblique garnet
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I just cant take a break

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Because i need something to do

honest canopy
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Nikkj stepoibg in No1

lusty grotto
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I see

oblique garnet
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I guess i could continue writing

lavish oracle
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The nerfs aren't that bad, they're like maybe a 5-10% overall damage nerf

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Which seems fair

honest canopy
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Play dota with me late

lusty grotto
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What do you write

oblique garnet
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Book

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Fantasy mostly

lusty grotto
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I mean like what genre

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Oh

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That's cool

oblique garnet
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I kinda stopped when i started playing again

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I have 140ish pages of novel typed our

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Out

lusty grotto
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I mean you can still do it though, you're not playing all the time right?

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Wow nice

oblique garnet
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Yeah but i tend to focus on one thing

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Too much

honest canopy
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I am The same

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I need one thing not to much

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Cus I enjoy focusing

oblique garnet
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I just focus on one thing fully

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And i neglect others

honest canopy
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โ˜๏ธ

oblique garnet
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Idk how people can focus on multiple things at once

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If i focus on something it takes everything from me

lusty grotto
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i gotta be honest, i wasn't able to do it a couple of years back

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but i started doing it, and now it's not hard

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i can only do a handful

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not too many

honest canopy
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For me its about time

lusty grotto
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but that's where time management comes in

honest canopy
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When I do smt i enjoy and I want to focus on, i want to be badass

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So, its a sumzero, all Times goes into one thing

oblique garnet
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It has nothing to do with time for me but like if i start doing something i usually see it till the end

lusty grotto
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right

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so its hard starting new things

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because then you will have to be commited

oblique garnet
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Yeah pretty much

lusty grotto
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i know that all too well

oblique garnet
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I started writing out of boredom

honest canopy
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Not for me.

Like, some years ago i started to TRAIN bJJ and MMA

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Cus i was chubby AF after a knee injury

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Was home gamling for 8 months

oblique garnet
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and ngl the text i have wrote so much has turned into interesting but im just struggling as to where to take it

honest canopy
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I had to stop wow cus well, all focus was needed on that shit for my own sanity. Cus i wanted to incest all time in it

queen owl
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Unstoppable Force Thunderclap damage reduced to 50% (was 100%).

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sky is falling

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panic

honest canopy
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๐Ÿ˜ช๐Ÿ˜ช๐Ÿ˜ช

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Old news

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Wonder for how long we will see messages like this ๐Ÿค”

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Gg sneezing baby Wales up fml

undone sun
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Until it goes live and then some

warm plinth
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Awkward

astral crystal
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u WOT

honest canopy
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@warm plinth ๐Ÿ’ž

warm plinth
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lol

honest canopy
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Ghashi

warm plinth
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Yeah

honest canopy
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You ever say to wife il sort The kids tonight just go chill i Come to bedroom when evetything is taken care off. Then you have kid to sleep just sit there alone in The dark relaxin with #protection?

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And feel its The best time of The day

warm plinth
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If I had kids, I could see myself doing that ๐Ÿ‘

astral crystal
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is that when you incest all time in it

warm plinth
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XD

oblique garnet
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Id be bad with kids

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Ngl

honest canopy
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Totally

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110% Good pun @astral crystal

oblique garnet
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I dont even wake up to fire alarm so why would i wake up to child crying

warm plinth
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Yikes

honest canopy
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You would

warm plinth
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Alright, made my fatboi warrior. Named Ovation ๐Ÿ‘

oblique garnet
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No i wont

warm plinth
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Life is good

oblique garnet
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It hasnt been more than a year when i was woken up by firefighters that i should leave the building

honest canopy
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Its biological slrted in our spines

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You Will wske up to your own childs cries, but you can sleep trough others etc.

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Its wierd but thats how it works, did read about it when we had our first kid

oblique garnet
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You would think thats the case

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And thats what normally happens

warm plinth
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I could see myself having a kid someday. I'm just too selfish for one right now.

oblique garnet
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But i have no faith in that

honest canopy
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When you become a parrent, IF you are some what sane obv and not mental ill, there is such big biological stuff happening in your own body (even as a male) its quite scary

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Ghasi wouldt be selfish, Late wouldt be Late

warm plinth
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I don't want to take that chance though. I don't wanna give it a shot and be like oh shit guess I'm one of the psychos that doesn't change when they have a kid.

honest canopy
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You know all shit we all have seen on The internet

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Aicce i got kid, i cant strand it

warm plinth
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Not fair to the kid lol

honest canopy
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Gg spelling. Il swap to eng keyboard from now

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Never text in swedish anywah

warm plinth
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I was wondering what was going on with your typing lol

honest canopy
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I got hate from some random The other day

lusty grotto
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i have dual languages on my phone keyboard

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but i use swiftkey so yeah

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on android

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i think google's keyboard also has that option

warm plinth
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Are they just called 'Murican and Rican?

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Because they should be

lusty grotto
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lmao

empty inlet
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tettles such a meme ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

timber nest
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is the UF nerf live or coming in a patch?

distant meadow
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uf?

timber nest
distant meadow
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thats in next patch

steel mauve
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probably a couple months away

hollow thorn
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wasnt scrolled down ๐Ÿคท

errant shuttle
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incite the pack or bs?

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it doesnt say how often incite the pack will proc

oblique garnet
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Bois

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Is nerfclap learning

languid quest
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yup

oblique garnet
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Has he finally achieved level of other actually good warriors?

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๐Ÿ˜ช5 packs only 100k

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Im dissapointed in nerf

onyx abyss
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?

analog swift
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Honestly that nerf doesnโ€™t seem like that big of a deal

potent anvil
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i think blightborne is not the play for his particular playstyle. also the fact that his dps seems meh.

warm plinth
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May end up getting more, but yeah if it stays at just the UF nerf, it shouldn't be much of a change.

analog swift
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About a 25% nerf t clap?

warm plinth
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Marok figured the nerf. It's in the pins

analog swift
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A bit less

warm plinth
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From an overall standpoint ofc

oblique garnet
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Jesus christ

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Naowhs group

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Too good

astral crystal
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EU master race FeelsBadMan

autumn wing
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Hey everyone I appreciate all the help I received the other day. I'm really enjoying prot warrior and definitely improving my gameplay. I'm probably a D+ warrior vs an F when I first started. I was wondering what would be some good/helpful UI and other Mods to get. Right nowI'im completely unmodded

oblique garnet
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That doesnt matter @autumn wing as long as you have blocktracker wa from pins for example herudra is using default ui and not much else

autumn wing
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blocktracker wa?

oblique garnet
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Yes

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It tracks your sb and last stand uptime

autumn wing
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kk I'll look for that one

lusty nova
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are you able to stack two blocks on top of each other in quick succession or do you need to wait until the first one is close to running out?

open bluff
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The duration will stack as long as it's SB + SB

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SB + bolster/LS will not

lusty nova
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ah okay, so SB + SB is okay if I want to burn rage quickly...coo,l

oblique garnet
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If you want to burn rage dont do that unless youre immediatley tanking

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If youre using 2 sb charges when your combat is about to expire youre wasting an sb charge

lusty nova
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yeah, its more when initiating combat or demo shout comes off cd early on in the pull but I still have some rage and TC is also up/coming up

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I am new to War so it seems that sometimes rage feels like a feast or famine scenario and im looking for different ways to burn off excess rage

white plaza
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is the servant splitter from waycrest any good for prot?

stiff relic
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I was just coming in to ask about the Servant Splitter. I've gotten FIVE variations of it since getting my new prot warrior to 120, and the latest 2 are a 400 and a 395 +socket. Any idea which would be better? Probly the 395+socket is STR is lousy and I can put some haste on it, right?

white plaza
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yeah i would bet that the one with the socket is the best one

warm plinth
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@white plaza @stiff relic Servant Splitter is trash for us. However, weapon DPS is very important for our damage output, so you should still use the highest ilevel weapon you have regardless of what it is.

steel mauve
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higher weapon also means bigger ip's too to think about

main aurora
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Hi ๐Ÿ˜ƒ ! which enchant for our weapon as tnak ?

unique coral
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@main aurora we need hast enchant ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

main aurora
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Ok thanks man

lusty grotto
main aurora
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Ok sorry for disturb pp'

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^^'

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I just star tanking, never done it before , and i play wow since 12 now, but i'm a bit afraid, it was a routine for me to follow tanks in m+, now i have to be that, its a lot of responsability a big change for me haha

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i have 2021 score on my main but as dps

warm plinth
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Yeah, starting fresh as a tank can be pretty intimidating.

main aurora
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yes its exactly wha ti think

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intimidating

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i have experience with my main in mythic + but as tnak its another point of view

warm plinth
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Yeah, though at 2k you probably know a lot of the mechanics and routes, so at least you have a bit of a head start!

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When I started tanking M+ in Legion, it was pretty sketchy because I'd just come back from the game. Didn't know the routes, the mechanics, nothing lol

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Come back to* the game

main aurora
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I know a few things yeah like what to kick ! But i mad ekeys this afternoon and i still think at dps sometimes. For example, i've pulled the little adds before second boss of SoB and i forgot bolstering so i made the Ashvane Commander a world boss

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on 3rd boss i forgot that if i pull the boss with all adds inside i will pull them all

warm plinth
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lol whoops!

main aurora
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some fucks like that

mortal brook
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siege in general is obnoxious for bolstering

main aurora
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but i think the the most important point is that i don't trust myself a lot ^^

fickle urchin
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just saw patchnotes. How are we holding up in here?

warm plinth
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Not sweating it

main aurora
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I have to learn all reflectable spelles, i've printed a paper next to my screen ahah

warm plinth
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Eh, confidence will come with time. Just don't be that person who gets 2k score as tank and is still freaking out about every dungeon XD

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Sounds like you're willing to put in the effort to learn it, so you'll be fine.

main aurora
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I've decided to not put my main's score on my tank

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like started from the bottoms

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and i don't want to be carry by my io by joining group

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wanna start from 0 ^^

warm plinth
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That's a good idea in my opinion.

main aurora
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yeah ๐Ÿ˜ƒ ! And other things, i have knowledge in road and with affix impact on them but i always look at my mdt map cause as dps i jsut follow the tank everytime, so i don't know them at all by heart.

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And i think too much as dps i think because its early but i tried to do a lot of dps with my prot but i have to understand that its not the priority, i try also to kick and stun everything haha. yesterdai in tos 10 i have mad 34 kick and a lot of stun and the dps was like 20 kick x)

thorny saddle
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Hey guys I am new to prot tanking and I have had dog sheit luck with trinkets dropping for me so I am still using blockades. I just got Peardiver's compas at 370 with a socket. Would I be better off using the compas or blockades.

lusty grotto
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whats your other trinket

thorny saddle
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400 rezans

lusty grotto
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blockades remains strong defensively up to 385+

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but

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i would say just drop it

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at this point at least

woven trellis
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should i play spark capacitor or barrage

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with goggles

lusty grotto
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RNG

woven trellis
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i was expecting a bit more development

lusty grotto
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barrage is dog shit, it's proc rate is awful and procs on mobs far away from you

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Gizmo is the best one in that ring

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@sick sentinel can you give you more info

woven trellis
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why does barrage shows so much damage on bloodmallet

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does all of this mean goggles are a bad azerite piece choice for warprot?

lusty grotto
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no

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gizmo is just better for both defensiveness and offensiveness

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if you don't care about defensiveness, then by all means go barrage

woven trellis
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but u just said its goin to pull so mob?

lusty grotto
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sure

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like laser matrix did back in season 1

woven trellis
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didnt play back in s1

daring marlin
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warprot

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I like it

analog swift
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honestly even barrage you have to hop it procs at the right time

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sure gizmo is a proc as well

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but you have 20 seconds to fully utilize it

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so oh shit im big

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time to go run over there

white plaza
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@warm plinth awesome thank you for your help

sick sentinel
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Hey everyone, recently started pushing keys on my prot warrior (never been much of a tank person myself) and I'm enjoying it a lot, was just wondering what are some essential weakauras or addons for pushing mythic+ keys and such.

spice ferry
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Spell reflect one

swift pier
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Thinking of leveling a prot pally, the utility seems pretty good, anyone here play both?

mortal brook
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tankadin gonna be stronk with that same cd reducer that avatar is getting, for their avenging wrath

lusty nova
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is there a base ilvl value for a gemslot on a ring?

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like 10 ilvl, 15 ilvl?

honest frigate
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No

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From a tank perspective, you generally go for ilvl. So if a socket ends up giving you more stats overall (unlikely but possible), then you take it. But you take the piece that gives you more stats

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Nnoggas party cd tracker and interrupt tracker are both good for m+. I like maroks SB/IP weakauras as well for personal prot warrior play

steel mauve
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its not unlikely for rings and bracers...

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for rings a socket is 15 or 20 ilvls worth of stats

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i meant cloak not bracers, but i do believe a socket has more stats than ilvl for bracers too but theres also more armor on bracers

red dock
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How is Jess Howler for M+?

lusty grotto
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yo @sick sentinel you on?

daring marlin
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nimchip carry me on horde

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pls

oblique garnet
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Ppoiiopopoppopopppoppooi Pii n @ k@m

daring marlin
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Late is drunk

analog swift
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@swift pier the utility is fun but the downtime compared to prot is a bit rough imo unless you take blessed hammer.

ivory barn
outer dew
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puke

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how shitty are your trinkets

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for you to run blockade

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lol

umbral forge
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400/413 ilvl
43 neck

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he's memeing

brave mauve
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Dropped all that ilvl and only got 2% leech out of it

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Disrespectful

lusty grotto
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@daring marlin

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what up

sick sentinel
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2 pings wtf

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@woven trellis ok so the thing with BomB and RNG is that one shows up in the damage meters and the other doesn't

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The difference being one is a proc that adds up with your other multipliers (ie. Avatar and the 20%, the soon-to-be 50 but still 100% and the 1.8k mastery from BoM)

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The other is linear with it's damage being reliant to the number of mobs/if you are moving them or not

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It can proc off of hc throw and pull mobs you did not want to pull

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Or break saps and put things in combat that you did not want to put

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You can be having a huge pack that you have to move and the bombs will just call flat on the ground

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Because it is a proc that it just happens you can't control it, but a proc of RNG you can do with it what you want

lusty grotto
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yo kaege

sick sentinel
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Ofc RNG has also a defensive benefit, it's actually the best power from there defense wise

lusty grotto
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do i want siegebreaker in jaina

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no idea why they aren't letting me tank it

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fuck fury

sick sentinel
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Eh, pick whatever

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It's basically pick your poison

lusty grotto
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fucking hell my dps is so low

sick sentinel
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All of them are equally bad, just bad in different places

lusty grotto
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lol

sick sentinel
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Ay nim is that enough?

lusty grotto
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i guess

sick sentinel
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It's 5am and I woke up to drink water

lusty grotto
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hes probably not watching the channel tho

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ill just link to it next time

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or when i see him talking

sick sentinel
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Okay lol

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Back to sleep it is

lusty grotto
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ty :)(

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sweet bootyclapping dreams

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@daring marlin what you wanna do nerd

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i gotta get my key up

charred vigil
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looked at pins didn't see it, but zandalari prot warrios...using bwonsamdi?

umbral forge
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Gonk is great

astral crystal
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tfw no jani aspect

umbral forge
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Buuuut racechanging to Nightborne is the superior choice

candid path
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What is this, opposite world?

honest canopy
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@umbral forge ๐Ÿ˜‚

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Aint nightborn considered worst?

umbral forge
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Said the male Pandaren

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๐Ÿ‘Œ

honest canopy
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Swapped to Orc Female....

umbral forge
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You disgust me

honest canopy
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Panda to big for me to see The shit on The ground, sorry ๐Ÿ˜ช

umbral forge
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Go fem panda then.. stick to your conviction

jolly iron
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hey I was leveling up my warrior to tank and stuff. Is it even worth after incoming nerfs or should I stop wasting my time

warm plinth
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Only nerf so far is pretty minor

hushed cobalt
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Nerf hit 2 hard. Don't play p warr

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Quadratic scaling reasons

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Now i wanna look into how small of a nerf it really is

sick sentinel
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50% tclap dmg

warm plinth
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First pin tells you that

sick sentinel
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not huuuge

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i mean since it' sjust a numbers nerf it's pretty easy to figure out just via using details

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stomp some, take 500% off of your tclap, take that from your dps

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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

brave mauve
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"50% off your tclap"

lmao

mortal brook
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not even. tclap during ava goes from 200% to 150%. so take off one quarter of your damage divided by your avatar uptime

sick sentinel
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ya that

hushed cobalt
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Some napkin math after tiki drinks suggests a 7.25% drop overall (or 6.48% if you pull fast)

sick sentinel
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10%

mortal brook
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now add in way more avatar uptime cuz that new essence

warm plinth
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I love all these dudes rerolling. Just did a Throne of the Tides with a level 80 warrior (not TW) who cast Shield Block a total of 5 times in 4 bosses. ๐Ÿ™ƒ

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Would have attempted to teach but he didn't speak english

sick sentinel
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:notlikethis:

lusty grotto
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haha i dig how marok says unviable

mortal brook
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reminds me of the bdk i met in lfr with siphoning enchant

lusty grotto
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totally hadn't read that thanks @warm plinth

mortal brook
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didnt blood boil

lusty grotto
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should have told him we're getting nerfed ghash

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that spooks rerollers away ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

warm plinth
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Well for future reference, how do you say: "we're getting nerfed. please delete your toon"

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in spanish

sick sentinel
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@lusty grotto when do i get unbanned from limit

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๐Ÿ”ฎ

lusty grotto
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๐Ÿ‘€

sick sentinel
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answer me

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i need to know

lusty grotto
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weep?

sick sentinel
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ya

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for like 10 more mins after this dungeon

lusty grotto
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will have to talk with them personally

sick sentinel
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and then back to rogue

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how's prot

lusty grotto
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same as before

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viable

sick sentinel
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unvibl

lusty grotto
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you forgot all the leech memes

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๐Ÿ˜ข

sick sentinel
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what leech memes

lusty grotto
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i mean you missed*

sick sentinel
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don't think i was even here for the leech memes

lusty grotto
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its late

sick sentinel
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i was here for the ghuun spell reflect memes though good times

lusty grotto
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people memeing about leech

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to get me pissed off or mwahi pissed off

undone sun
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๐Ÿ˜ก

sick sentinel
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leech is good tho

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i like leech

lusty grotto
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oh yeah thyme too

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bull also made this

undone sun
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quality

sick sentinel
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I'm glad blizzard hasn't hit prot with the overnerf hammer

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same withoutlaw

lusty grotto
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i mean

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word on the grapevine is that they are nerfing shroud

sick sentinel
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when do u shroud twice

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reduction of timer would kind of ruin shrine lol

lusty grotto
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ToS ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

sick sentinel
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ah ye tru

lusty grotto
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double shroud at the start

sick sentinel
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and then at the end

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most dungeons do not have this route tho

lusty grotto
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but yeah you can double shroud with a single rogue in ToS anyway

mortal brook
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just reroll full nelf party, apparently

lusty grotto
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shroud before key, shroud halfway

sick sentinel
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the issue, in my opinion, isn't with shroud but rather the lack of homogenization with utility between classes

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have we seen ToS in MDI yet?

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any 50% SR memes?

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haven't been paying attention

lusty grotto
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yes

sick sentinel
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:pogu:

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got a clip?

lusty grotto
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they have been reflecting

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i think 2 weeks ago

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i dont

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but i saw it live

sick sentinel
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I know shakib kinda oofed his orb throw today

lusty grotto
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i really don't think homogenization is good

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but

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there is really strong utility

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and that might be the exception to the rule

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things like shroud and BRez

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should be made into profession items

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as BRez is

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and lust

sick sentinel
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I think slight homogenization is required

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like if all tank classes had a grip that was class-flavored

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homogenization of utility

mortal brook
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but my class identity!!

lusty grotto
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i dont really want a grip though

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but shroud outside of having a rogue

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that might be something good

sick sentinel
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I'd be fine with a grip as prot

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throw a hook

mortal brook
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they sorta did that with the invis pot cd reduction

lusty grotto
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yeah i mean

sick sentinel
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or like lightning lul

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for the memes

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imagine if, during avatar, every TC was a gorefiend's grasp

lusty grotto
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problem with the pots is that its not a group wide thing

mortal brook
#

what if there was some kind of druid spell, that helped share fantasy between classes? like a symbiotic sort of thing

sick sentinel
#

I think the homogenization of roles can be a positive change

#

but, again, only of certain utilities

#

how many healers have a brez anyway

#

like, 1?

#

you're not bringing a guardian druid or a warlock

lusty grotto
#

yeah but i think blizzard stepped away from that in this expansion

#

no idea why

sick sentinel
#

I agree

lusty grotto
#

bladesong probably knows

sick sentinel
#

they're gone to "bring the class, not the player"

lusty grotto
#

yeah

#

i disliked that route but now that its done... i think i understand why

#

anyway draenic invis pots are actually 18 seconds so

sick sentinel
#

can't see things tho

mortal brook
#

at least swapping is only slightly painful. instead of 5 months grinding a ring or a cloak or leggos its just 2 months grinding azerite lol

lusty grotto
#

but things don't hit you if you go over them ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

umbral trout
#

thinking I missed the throw ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

sick sentinel
#

yea

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it's weird

#

@umbral trout na

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got bugged

#

but i'm just memeing u

umbral trout
#

I do right side ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

lusty grotto
#

yeah that was a good fix @mortal brook

umbral trout
#

that was left ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

sick sentinel
#

sh

#

it's your fault

lusty grotto
#

did you forget to yeet

sick sentinel
#

^

umbral trout
#

did you see the guardian teleport at the end tho

lusty grotto
#

๐Ÿ˜„

umbral trout
#

that was the real hype

sick sentinel
#

i literally dont actually know anyone else in your team so i have to blame you

#

sorry, thems the rules

umbral trout
#

f

lusty grotto
#

f

umbral trout
#

also why can I not do any emotes

#

is that a rule too ?

sick sentinel
#

skyhold doesnt let you

#

yea

umbral trout
#

scary

lusty grotto
#

i think you need nitro or some shit

umbral trout
#

I have it but it doesnt let me

#

apart from generic ones

lusty grotto
#

hmm...

#

yeah might be skyhold being skyhold

#

ive seen a few gif-like ones tho

undone sun
#

right, no cross server emotes in channels aside from Offtopic

sick sentinel
#

yes

lusty grotto
#

oof

sick sentinel
#

it's a skyhold rule

#

<- has nitro

lusty grotto
#

yo so the outlaw nerf isn't that big?

#

or is it? nimchy is a noob rogue

#

also alliance

#

๐Ÿ˜ข

sick sentinel
#

eh

#

my personal belief, after looking through the crystal ball, is that sin will be the best

#

SnC will have value in cleave as well because I've heard stack count is 15

#

so wits max is 75%

lusty grotto
#

hmm

sick sentinel
#

overall

#

not an overnerf

lusty grotto
#

so somewhat like prot's

#

im kinda surprised they didn't overnerf

#

it's blizzard after all

mortal brook
#

reasonable class adjustments are def rare

lusty grotto
#

but there's also the whole Prot Paladin being absolute gods after that trait hits

sick sentinel
#

yoyo what's this about pally

#

tell me the deets

mortal brook
#

we got all sorts of time for them to dissapoint with an overnerf no worries. months even!

lusty grotto
#

there's a trait for the neck that resets cd

#

for basically every big dps CD on tanks (rip VDH)

sick sentinel
#

of what

#

o

#

lol

#

that's stupid

#

they get wings right?

#

wings is stupid

lusty grotto
#

so you now know why we got nerfed

sick sentinel
#

wings is so stupid

lusty grotto
#

yeah wings

sick sentinel
#

wings is SO stupid

mortal brook
#

well, some of the tanks get their offensive cd

sick sentinel
#

hpal 30k dps ok!!

mortal brook
#

other tanks dont own offensive cds so

lusty grotto
#

like vdh ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

sick sentinel
#

have you seen those dudes abusing that drustvar trinket

#

Mr Munchykins

lusty grotto
#

but then again vdh got buffs so

sick sentinel
#

just do that on the tank in m+

mortal brook
#

meta at least generates pain. bears its SI and BDK its vampblood

#

like, gratz

lusty grotto
#

SI is... kind of a dps gain

sick sentinel
#

what is SI

lusty grotto
#

vamp blood tho LMAO

sick sentinel
#

vamp blood is SO GOOD

mortal brook
#

survival instincts. the 40% dr

lusty grotto
#

why not rune weapon or whatever

sick sentinel
#

icebound > vamp

#

tbh

#

drw > icebound > vamp > ams > da

mortal brook
#

hell theres a whole essence for ams now lol

lusty grotto
#

eh nvm

#

SI has no offensive value

mortal brook
#

i mean, you can press maul once instead of IF. lol

lusty grotto
#

yeah at least they'll be tankier

mortal brook
#

if maul is on your bars

#

guardian buffs look solid tbh

lusty grotto
#

they look reasonable

mortal brook
#

like 20% more IF overlap uptime

sick sentinel
#

I like the guardian buff tho

undone sun
#

they're very decent buffs

sick sentinel
#

and the vdh buff

#

guardian = brm now

mortal brook
#

well

lusty grotto
#

so far the only thing i dont like about 8.2 is prot pallies being ahead, and the season affix will probably be aids

mortal brook
#

that avenging wrath essence gonna be solid af

lusty grotto
#

the rest of the changes were needed

mortal brook
#

throw in the attack speed minor and its still gonna be tankadin and prot ahead i bet

lusty grotto
#

we'll see

#

problem is paladins have a bit more utility though

#

bop, lotp/hotp, repentance

mortal brook
#

imagine lotp being off gcd

lusty grotto
#

someone said that

undone sun
#

it really should be

sick sentinel
#

that would be sexy

lusty grotto
#

it might be taken off

#

again

#

same as FR?

#

was that you thyme?

#

i cant remember

undone sun
#

nah

mortal brook
#

FR still not clickable lol

undone sun
#

i wish it was, as it was for legion along with other buffs and tank defensives ๐Ÿ˜ก

lusty grotto
#

heh

#

i think it was blade

#

his buddy buddy that "works in blizz" told him

undone sun
#

kek

sick sentinel
#

my dad owns activision

lusty grotto
#

but it was more like "they are looking at it"

mortal brook
#

weird, i got a relative thats a gm at blizz and he'll ban anyone i tell them to :kappa:

sick sentinel
#

prot warrior is getting removed in 8.2.5

#

and being added to demon hunters as a third spec

mortal brook
#

replaced with Gladiator

lusty grotto
#

honestly i have no reason to not believe blade

sick sentinel
#

ah yeah the worst spec of wod

#

lulw

lusty grotto
#

but im still skeptical

mortal brook
#

but the bad, unusable glad

sick sentinel
#

feelsbadman

#

feelsgladman but the sad glad

undone sun
#

"we're looking into it" is the most empty statement to date ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

#

not much to expect either way

sick sentinel
#

is avatar still on the gcd

mortal brook
#

yes

sick sentinel
#

i see

#

prot still a dead spec then

mortal brook
#

if you stack leech, the gcd for avatar goes down or so ive heard

undone sun
#

hmmm

sick sentinel
#

is leech worth dropping ilvls for?

mortal brook
#

leeches away the gcd

sick sentinel
#

bc i have some leech gear in my bag

#

@lusty grotto is it worth?

mortal brook
#

get a socket on that and itll work better in wpvp

#

.>

#

got a damn wpvp set on the bdk, drop 45 ilvls and add 5k dps...

lusty grotto
#

๐Ÿ˜ก

sick sentinel
#

nimchip please answer

lusty grotto
#

the answer is no

sick sentinel
#

okay im equipping it

lusty grotto
#

๐Ÿ˜ก

#

๐Ÿ‘‰ ๐Ÿšช

undone sun
sick sentinel
#

i'll come back in another 2 months, dont worry

lusty grotto
#

lmao

sick sentinel
#

like acute bronchitis

lusty grotto
#

yikes

#

that sounds bad

sick sentinel
#

it could be worse

lusty grotto
#

true

mortal brook
lusty grotto
#

rrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeee i need 3 mil for my bronty

#

got a fat boe today at least

sick sentinel
#

yeah

#

?

lusty grotto
#

need to sell it fast before tuesday

#

undercut everyone np

sick sentinel
#

ill help u

#

just send it directly to my mailbox

lusty grotto
#

๐Ÿค”

sick sentinel
#

dont undercut too hard

#

if you want a quick sell

#

~100 gold or so

lusty grotto
#

ya

sick sentinel
#

if you undercut by a large amount you risk permanently devaluing the item

#

or, long-term devaluation

lusty grotto
#

it'll be devaluated anyway after tuesday

sick sentinel
#

yes but you don't want it devalued tomorrow

#

and you don't want it devalued monday

lusty grotto
#

right

sick sentinel
#

large but not-huge undercuts are a very quick and very easy way to destroy your market if:
a. the item is of significant rarity
b. you post a lot of said item at that price

#

but if you're willing to risk it it can also be a very quick dump strategy that can earn you some extra gold fast

topaz ember
#

on that same note you can destory other peoples markets if you hate them

sick sentinel
#

oh yeah I did that

topaz ember
#

i used to farm an item and sell around 1 every day or 2 for 50k and the farm wasnt to bad. someone else tried to get in the market and recked it down to 10k make it not even worth it to farm

#

wait this is the prot discord uhhh get a high ilvl sheild and try to keep your block up!

dreamy umbra
#

Morning guys ihave a question for a Thunder clap..

#

Azerite power?for thunder clap for more dmg it;s

#

Deafening Crash?

#

or Treacherous Covenant?

#

guys?

still aurora
dreamy umbra
#

Morning guys ihave a question for a Thunder clap..
Azerite power?for thunder clap for more dmg it;s
Deafening Crash?
or Treacherous Covenant?
guys?

outer dew
#

he answered

#

lol

ionic fern
#

@dreamy umbra you can also sim yourself with those traits.

prime sundial
#

Good morning ! What do you think about the nerf coming on prot war ?

undone sun
#

nothing major, yet

sick sentinel
#

Yo @sick sentinel

#

hi

#

I didn't have to ask you to come back this time, you did it yourself

#

That's nice

prime sundial
#

instead of 100% dmg Tclap will do 50%

spice ferry
digital frigate
#

whats the name of invisibilitty pot?

sick sentinel
#

multiple

#

draenic invisibility

#

skaggldrynk

digital frigate
#

Draenic, thats the one

#

Thank you.

sick sentinel
#

np

#

The bfa invis pot is better

#

Because you still see the mobs

#

ah but you don't aggro mobs you don't see

stoic pilot
#

Legion invis pot is the best still

#

If itโ€™s quaking week it wonโ€™t ever proc on you

#

If you use legion invis

#

Every other one youโ€™ll quake with everyone else

sick sentinel
#

skaggldrynk too good

#

@stoic pilot are you sure?

#

I thought it was like you quack and you do not get out of invis but if somebpdy quacks you, you're fucked

stoic pilot
#

yes i'm positive

#

everyone around me invis pots at the same time and gets quaking except for me and when they swap to Skaggldrynk it stops

#

and yeah that's the case, but it just stops quaking from happening entirely

tacit solstice
#

100% legion ones are better ^^^

stoic pilot
#

and since it matters to you @sick sentinel you can also see the mobs / stuff on ground with skaggldrynk

#

they don't just phase out entirely

sick sentinel
#

oh sorry

#

I was using draenor ones kek

prime sundial
#

hi ! i'm trying to use spellreflection tracker aura, but i don't know how and where to find the spell list to import in the aura pls ?

#

how does it work pls ?

sand condor
#

It should be integrated

prime sundial
#

cause the aura never appears when mobs are casting :/

#

and it's activated in weakaura

#

is there something special to sey or to do in order i can see the bar ?

limber jolt
#

Uff

#

what u keys think about the incomin nerf?

undone sun
#

predictable, nothing huge, yet

limber jolt
#

but its not like 20%

#

its 50 ๐Ÿ˜„

#

but the CD stay like ? with Avatar ? and UF?

undone sun
#

it's 6-10% nerf on overall damage, nothing major

limber jolt
#

i mean 10% overall is not as low as u think xD

sand condor
#

Thats 2k/s on 20k avg

limber jolt
#

yeah im tired cause of it, cause was a lot of fun

#

now ret palas will tank in big pulls xD

#

if u cant handle the heavy burst

#

without MD and Tricks xD

undone sun
#

the nerf doesn't really change much in terms of damage rankings

#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

outer dew
#

any suggestions

#

for armor for this weapon/shield combo?

#

and if you're doing 20k average

#

yikes

austere oar
#

Would say some mogu shit from mop with the sword but doesnt match the shield

sick sentinel
outer dew
#

ADADA WDYM

#

THESE ARE IMPORTANT PROT WARRIOR DISCUSSION

#

fashion is life

austere oar
#

Have to agree, cant tank without a proper skin

sick sentinel
prime sundial
#

Hello ! It seems that on Grong "Bestial Smash" can be blocked shied ? Is 2nd one blockable too ?

austere oar
#

The dot ? No

undone sun
prime sundial
#

Not the throw the cast Bestial Smash (the one where if you take the 2nd you die)

austere oar
#

It's still the same spell

#

So yeah its still blockable

prime sundial
#

So if after he spelled the first one i use my shield block for the 2nd one i won't die ? And the 2nd tank don't have to taunt him ?

austere oar
#

I would advise to taunt swap for each consecutive bestial smash

#

Being said if you are geared enough and block both smashes you can survive 2 consecutive smashes

prime sundial
#

ok so if i activate the shield block for the 2nd one i can survive ? It's not instant death ?

austere oar
#

Depends on your gear I cant predict this

prime sundial
#

ok thx.

austere oar
#

I know the 2nd one puts me around 30% hp with SB only

prime sundial
#

shield block won't block 100% dmg done but an avergae mount of % isn't it ? (on the 2nd bestial smash)

austere oar
#

SB blocks all melee dmg, no matter what it is

#

The value depends on your block value and some math

prime sundial
#

ok so if i have 40% value of block using my SB at the 2nd bestial smash i will reduce 40% of the dmg done by this 2nd cast ?

austere oar
#

Why would you want to take 2 hits on purpose tho ? ^^

#

But yeah approx.

prime sundial
#

yeah i want to know if i can solo tank him

austere oar
#

In Mythic ?

prime sundial
#

in mythic i think i'm not geared enough but in normal or heroic i would like to test

austere oar
#

I wouldn't recommand to solo tank him

prime sundial
#

^^ ok

austere oar
#

His positioning is important

#

And you cant control it alone bc of the throw

#

And there is the possibility of a triple smash combo

prime sundial
#

ok so it's not a matter of dmg received but a group management of boss cc

mellow yacht
#

its soloable at heroic

prime sundial
#

SB in this case is usefull in case 2nd tank is dead

mellow yacht
#

easily

#

but on mythic u need sb+ SW all time when u have 2 bestial smashes

#

u dont need this

prime sundial
#

ok so it's possible on heroic and normal

mellow yacht
#

ofc its possible

austere oar
#

Yeah idk haven't done heroic since launch

mellow yacht
#

i did this on 400 gear

#

and have 1st kill on heroic by this strat

prime sundial
#

so you used SB only while grong was spelling bestial smash ?

mellow yacht
#

not only

#

u nust have 1 sb for BS

prime sundial
#

you take 1 of the 2 for this ?

mellow yacht
#

1 is enough

prime sundial
#

ok you you must not spend the last 1 one and be shur to have it up for the bestial smash

#

?

mellow yacht
#

if u have boss mods for BS its not hard to prepare for bs with SB or LS

prime sundial
#

ok thx lot for all these info ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

#

I've a last question pls, it's about the aura spell reflection tracker. I have installed it but it's not working. Is there anything to set up ? Or something to activate to make it work when a reflectable spell is cast ?

undone sun
#

should work as is, nothing preliminary about it to work

mellow yacht
#

tracker? its wa?

prime sundial
undone sun
#

only shows if they're targeting you and it's a cast long enough to trigger the bar

#

try reimporting it if you haven't already

prime sundial
#

ok

full spruce
#

Also wont work in timewalking if youre trying that

pulsar lily
#

Does Reckless Fury (the fury trait) affect anything other than our auto attacks for prot? I see some cheeky high parses using the trait and was j/w

undone sun
#

no, just AAs

ebon hound
#

Only autos

undone sun
#

but that's why it's used

#

primarily on ST

pulsar lily
#

Ahhhh, alright thank you!

honest canopy
#

Good tought

#

Should just RF in all spots possible

#

Friends i might lvl a druid for shana iga s

valid knot
#

[Servant Splitter] any good?

#

any1

honest canopy
#

Why not

#

Just eq The highest ilvl

sick sentinel
#

Only if it's the highest ilvl

umbral forge
#

Kaege I tried to get more warriors to go Nightborne

pastel holly
#

would have def gone nightborne if theyd looked more similar to the npcs

half palm
#

whats good about nightborne

#

they stand funny

sick sentinel
#

JET NO

#

Absolutely nothing is good about nightbourne

oak ice
#

But mailbox

sick sentinel
#

Lol

knotty geyser
#

Hey does anyone know where I can find a list of the various abilities I can spell deflect in mythics?

#

Reflect*

undone sun
knotty geyser
#

Thank you

empty inlet
#

you can reflect the cannon in tol

#

to kill your friends ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

brazen sequoia
#

Tips/tricks for Jadefire masters?

#

mythic

vestal moat
#

The mage owns you when youโ€™re tankingnit and everyone else is doing the multi sided. Use externals

#

Actually ise externals whenever you got the mage heh.

sick sentinel
#

@brazen sequoia Be smart with ur CDS, pool rage for IP and don't waste it on SB since u can't block him

#

Also use Last Stand freely on him, unless ur blowing through ur SB charges while on Monk by the time u use ur 3rd SB ud have to swap with the cotank since u shouldn't be getting high stacks he applies

slim cosmos
#

i imagine it will get easier with practice but fuck it's hard pulling even just 2 packs at a time with explosives going off, i either forget to refresh shield block or my back is turned to them as i try to hit the orbs >_<

neon tangle
#

@brazen sequoia it helps if you have a DK or something to tank the monk

naive panther
#

Itโ€™s not that bad

ionic fern
#

Mage P1 doesn't hurt that much.
SR should be enough for you if you taunt swap as the other tanks debuff goes down.

#

Try to have ALL CD's up for P2 tho since that's where the real damage will come in.

trim talon
#

Anyone have a caress of death timer weakaura?

ionic fern
#

What do you mean?
Pretty sure BW/DBM tracks it.

trim talon
#

Dbm doesnt track it

astral crystal
#

you mean from rastaman encounter?

#

pretty sure it's tracked

vagrant arrow
#

clap will get huge nerf?

ionic fern
#

Not Clap. UF.

#

It's going to reduce the DPS output during Avatar windows.

nova gale
#

How is the Briny Barnacle DPS wise?

#

In m+

#

@oblique garnet Ree answer me

vagrant arrow
#

UF?

mortal brook
#

barnacle is okay. may 3~4% of your dmg

ionic fern
#

Unstoppable Force.

mortal brook
#

lower than anchor

nova gale
#

If only I had an anchor

vagrant arrow
#

so warr will be still good at tankin?

ionic fern
#

Yes, Warrior will still be good at tanking.

#

It has no effect on our survival/rage gen, it's just a number tune to bring us a bit down DPS wise.

oblique garnet
#

@nova gale its eh at best

astral crystal
#

oof that NA fail

lusty grotto
#

its the first thing in the pins

astral crystal
#

lust up

lusty grotto
#

kinda sad when people ask and don't know what UF is

oblique garnet
#

Method na choking twice in one series

#

And then they have a chance to go back to the finals again?

#

Zzz

digital frigate
#

P2 Mage I can only eat 8 stacks

#

He hurts so badly.

sick sentinel
#

@oblique garnet u still NA

gleaming obsidian
#

?is there a chart for the ilvl drops of the different level keystones

oblique garnet
#

@sick sentinel no im EU?๐Ÿค”

ionic fern
#

@gleaming obsidian

sick sentinel
#

@oblique garnet gave up the area 52 druid dream

oblique garnet
#

Oh yeah

#

For now atleast

sick sentinel
#

feels bad

gleaming obsidian
#

@ionic fern thanks

umbral forge
#

@sand condor do you want a friendly tip of advice :))

sand condor
#

yes

#

always

#

anything i can get to improve

oblique garnet
#

Press 123

nova gale
#

Gonna see if I can hit 40k overall dps in FH 15 now

umbral forge
#

This is something very few Prot Warriors know about

oblique garnet
#

This week?

#

Kinda doubt it

nova gale
#

I just did 38k in +17

oblique garnet
#

๐Ÿค”

nova gale
#

#blasting

umbral forge
#

But if you go with Bolstering, as you do @sand condor
You actually don't have to pop Shield Block immediately after every Last Stand ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

sand condor
#

i panic clicked shieldblock

#

twice

#

xD

desert gust
#

who needs shield block when you can talent into ignore pain

umbral forge
#

After every time you pressed Last Stand ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

sand condor
#

yep

oblique garnet
#

Its to increase the damage of ss smh

undone sun
#

๐Ÿค”

desert gust
#

devestate is obviously the superior ability

lusty grotto
#

oh you mean devAstate

#

was wondering what the hell devestate was

#

either way 2/10 meme

umbral forge
#

Speaking of memes

#

nimchip

#

want to see my homemade meme?

lusty grotto
#

no jettom

desert gust
#

i spell gurately

lusty grotto
#

as long as it doesn't have the L word

umbral forge
#

it doesn't

lusty grotto
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or nightborne males

umbral forge
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im trying to find it

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no nightborne males

lusty grotto
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๐Ÿค”

sick sentinel
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@lusty grotto I made a meme too :)

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well, it's less of a meme..

lusty grotto
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this is kind of decent jettom im impressed

umbral forge
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thank you

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The reason hunter is Please be nice to me is because I went back to my Hunter with @sand condor in the guild replacing my prot warrior for now.

sick sentinel
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Nim, would you check it out for me and give me some opinions?

lusty grotto
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where

sick sentinel
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@lusty grotto so

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I have this leech gear and I was wondering if it's worth the 10 ilvl drop? @lusty grotto

oblique garnet
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Ok

lusty grotto
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fuck this im out

oblique garnet
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Get our

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Get out

undone sun
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๐Ÿคฆ

desert gust
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Prot warrior is the best at self hgealing

sick sentinel
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first they ban me from Limit, now you ban me from prot?

undone sun
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yes

warm plinth
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๐Ÿ‘‹

oblique garnet
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Who is willow

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Is it

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The

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I forgot the name

desert gust
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he is the leeching prot warrior

oblique garnet
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Its the girl whose name i forgot

sick sentinel
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who is me, true facts

warm plinth
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Actually weep didn't know about the leech meme until like yesterday

oblique garnet
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Ah weep

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That was it

warm plinth
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But everyone has to mess with Nim. It's kind of a thing.

sick sentinel
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well I love Nim

warm plinth
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Same. He's my bae.

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In a completely platonic way.

sick sentinel
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he's the only one who understands my terse but fair relationship with the #1 guild on US Illidan

warm plinth
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๐Ÿ˜…

desert gust
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Theoretical build idea: A full leech prot warrior build? Lets show the blood's whos the real self healing tank/

stoic pilot
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Why donโ€™t you just kill explosive and victory rush instead of gimping yourself

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Thatโ€™s real bdk healing

warm plinth
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If I left Skyhold and came back when the leech memes were over, how long would I be gone do you think?

oblique garnet
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Id say probably 8.2

ionic fern
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Longer.

stoic pilot
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8.2 because blizzard will probably end up over nerfing warriors into the stone age one day before patch launch and all the rerolls leave

oblique garnet
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When the fotm rerollers like mwahi stop playing warrior 8)

warm plinth
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Oof

ionic fern
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Jep, i'm a total fotm reroller.

undone sun
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๐Ÿ‘

oblique garnet
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Paladin cough

ionic fern
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I'm a hunter/rogue/boomy now.

oblique garnet
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Im shaman main now

warm plinth
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No, this is a fotm reroller

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This was an entire dungeon btw

ionic fern
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Oh, thought it was my Jaina log.

warm plinth
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lawl

oblique garnet
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Thats me

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Wtf

ionic fern
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Manly man don't need SB to survive.

warm plinth
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Late has Revenge bound to a macro with the Shield Block icon

desert gust
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Once again, you only need ignore pain

warm plinth
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Well he wasn't using that either with 38.9% uptime ๐Ÿ˜‚

desert gust
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๐Ÿคฆ

warm plinth
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The Avatar uptime can be excused because he didn't have AM yet (he was level 80)

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Not that I feel it would have been any higher if he had AM

desert gust
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so bullshit mode deactivated, with the upcoming 8.2 patch they are still doing passes on what they have changed. from your viewpoint, what are some other areas of warriors that aren't safe from nerfs?

oblique garnet
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Mitigation

stoic pilot
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Everything

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Did you not see 7.1 for warriors in legion?

undone sun
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still damage

warm plinth
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Tbh I think damage will be their only focus. Thereโ€™s a small chance they might mess with our mitigation but I really donโ€™t think they will.

fierce juniper
undone sun
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๐Ÿ˜ก hide preview

warm plinth
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RIP Twitch at work

lusty grotto
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lol thyme

fierce juniper
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:^)

umbral forge
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Heya Marok

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how much for a weeb emoji?

oblique garnet
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But mdi cup

warm plinth
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Legend patron gogo

lusty grotto
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hey marok i like how you put "not unviable" in the pins

warm plinth
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Then heโ€™ll still say no

oblique garnet
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Oh well its ml

warm plinth
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Wait how the hell do you see pins on iOS

oblique garnet
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So yeah not much interesting going

warm plinth
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No pin icon ๐Ÿค”

undone sun
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three dots

oblique garnet
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On phone its the small arrow next to protection

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Click it and then click pinned messages

junior hearth
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Is there a way for Prot to drop reaping stacks?

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Without running away

warm plinth
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Ohhh okay. Thatโ€™s weird

oblique garnet
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No

desert gust
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Okay, I was only asking to know what to expect and maybe brace for. I really enjoy the playstyle of the warrior

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used to be a blood dk master race

oblique garnet
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Blood dk LUL

desert gust
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i started in legion dont yell at me

warm plinth
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Play style shouldnโ€™t change as long as they leave AM alone.

desert gust
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yeah, what I meant for sure was I love the proc based gameplay with revenge and SS constantly proccing, the AM is strong and avaliable, damage is there even with the nerfs, and i fucking love the mobility

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plus fury and arms are the tiots

umbral forge
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@sick sentinel I might leave my guild in 8days btw

oblique garnet
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Wowow

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Toxic

umbral forge
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what's toxic here

warm plinth
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They said theyโ€™re only doing numbers changes so unless they make AM like 1 sec per 20 rage or something ridiculous, play style should stay the same.

sick sentinel
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wait why?

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and what is oging to happen to @lapis bobcat ?

oblique garnet
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Why would you leave guild smh

desert gust
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@warm plinth sweet!

umbral forge
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Going to meet the officer team in a guild meet up

undone sun
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AM on an ICD is reasonable ngl

umbral forge
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if it goes badly I'll leave lol

desert gust
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Thyme, if our AM does go on ICD, what would that impact mainly?

warm plinth
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Everything

undone sun
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AM being anger management

desert gust
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OH

warm plinth
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Itโ€™ll ruin the best part of the spec imo

oblique garnet
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Jesus maroks mic is loud

desert gust
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AM ?/? Active Mitigation is what I thought

warm plinth
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AM is Anger Management

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In this case lol

desert gust
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totally understandable

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Well, hopefully they will not nerf it back into 8.0, but even then I guess it'll be time to adapt and overcome. I even tried to go back and play my DK but ended up trying to do a sudoku puzzle waiting for runes to come off CD

oblique garnet
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8.0 was fine

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It wasnt bad

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Good players did good bad players didnt

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Now you see bad warriors in mdi

desert gust
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gotcha, i was just going based off community perception

nova gale
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Fuck I cant break 40k xd