#protection | Skyhold | Page 2528

fossil heron Apr 13, 2019, 4:04 AM

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upcoming first round of ptr*

sweet kettle Apr 13, 2019, 4:05 AM

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100% sure the changes won't be better

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It's a shit show waiting to happen

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 4:06 AM

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that is basically every single patch in the last idk how many years

desert gust Apr 13, 2019, 4:11 AM

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prot will be fine, just enjoy what we have now and roll with the punches

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or block them

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 4:13 AM

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I would rather spell_reflection the punch

sweet kettle Apr 13, 2019, 4:13 AM

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I like to turn my back to them and tank them and still take less dmg than a Dh

desert gust Apr 13, 2019, 4:14 AM

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exactly

final mist Apr 13, 2019, 4:17 AM

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The whole point of the DH changes was to make their damage taken differences less severe between having and not having Spikes up

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That’s why DS got “nerfed” along with the buff

steep lily Apr 13, 2019, 4:34 AM

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At least it doesnt look like theyre messing with prot mitigation. That part of us seems pretty strong right now.

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 4:36 AM

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well, first and foremost, we are tanks

steep lily Apr 13, 2019, 4:38 AM

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Yeah. I mean our defensive toolkit and rotation feels pretty good to me right now. Im glad theyre not changing that.

daring marlin Apr 13, 2019, 4:39 AM

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I'm just loving it

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tbh

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MDI, all of it

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warriors need muh utility to be good over dk

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many regulars in this discord said that

spice ferry Apr 13, 2019, 4:41 AM

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Their utility is they do a million dps

daring marlin Apr 13, 2019, 4:42 AM

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just an example

open bluff Apr 13, 2019, 4:42 AM

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the funny thing is i said back in season one/uldir that unstoppable force needed a 50% nerf

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wadner

daring marlin Apr 13, 2019, 4:43 AM

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This hasn't aged well

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DH was garbage then too

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people just thought poorly of prot then.

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even late was feeling it

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oh lawdy

next widget Apr 13, 2019, 4:46 AM

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Is ruinous Bolt any good for m+?

outer dew Apr 13, 2019, 4:46 AM

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i mean

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pre-nerf it was true

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esp for s1

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since it was utiltiy season

daring marlin Apr 13, 2019, 4:46 AM

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DH was garbage then still

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tank anyway

outer dew Apr 13, 2019, 4:50 AM

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oh was more

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about the comment about why last mdi

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we were saying prot warrior isn't gonna get a showing

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lol

soft kindle Apr 13, 2019, 5:02 AM

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@sick sentinel aff feels awful in dungeons and is bad. Legit a single target bot

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 5:02 AM

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@oblique garnet there is your answer

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thanks meth

crisp pecan Apr 13, 2019, 5:26 AM

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This 50% nerf wont be that big deal

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It is ok

undone sun Apr 13, 2019, 5:28 AM

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correct

neon tangle Apr 13, 2019, 5:37 AM

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@daring marlin didn’t you also say BoM was gonna be bad?

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People got no clue what the meta will be

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Just got to let it happen

daring marlin Apr 13, 2019, 5:38 AM

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I was one of the few that said BoM was gonna be amazing

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idgaf

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 5:38 AM

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I said it before

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I will say it again

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I have a

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vision of perfection

digital frigate Apr 13, 2019, 5:40 AM

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Hi. Prot warrior best class.

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\o/

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 5:40 AM

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nice.

woeful cypress Apr 13, 2019, 5:41 AM

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50% thunderclap nerf 😦

digital frigate Apr 13, 2019, 5:41 AM

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150 -> 135

brave mauve Apr 13, 2019, 5:47 AM

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nerf UnstFor by 50%
next tier BoM scales to give us so much more AP that we just are right back at it again while every other tank just sits on their thumbs

🤷

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 5:48 AM

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that's not how it works @brave mauve

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a 385 and a 415 bom don't have that much of a difference

brave mauve Apr 13, 2019, 5:48 AM

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Of course not, but BoM is still such a stupid good dps trait that other tanks will struggle to make theirs catch up

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We're still gonna do bonkers damage

digital frigate Apr 13, 2019, 5:48 AM

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It's a 6-10% difference in damage.

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It'll be 100% fine.

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 5:49 AM

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I am expecting more nerfs tbh

brave mauve Apr 13, 2019, 5:49 AM

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I want to make a joke that I don't trust damage opinions from someone named 9mm, but I also carry a 9mm unironically

digital frigate Apr 13, 2019, 5:49 AM

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You don't have to take my word for it. Marok also did the math.

brave mauve Apr 13, 2019, 5:49 AM

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I'm just joking bruh

digital frigate Apr 13, 2019, 5:50 AM

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I don't take jokes as well as I take penis.

brave mauve Apr 13, 2019, 5:50 AM

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same tbh

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 5:50 AM

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lol

digital frigate Apr 13, 2019, 5:50 AM

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That's life.

inland mesa Apr 13, 2019, 5:51 AM

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Everyone go pllay prot really poorly on ptr so it looks like a massive nerf and then they feel bad and dont do more

digital frigate Apr 13, 2019, 5:51 AM

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That's my plan.

brave mauve Apr 13, 2019, 5:51 AM

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good idea

digital frigate Apr 13, 2019, 5:51 AM

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"oh no, i am doing only 20k trash pulls"

brave mauve Apr 13, 2019, 5:52 AM

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noooooooo

inland mesa Apr 13, 2019, 5:53 AM

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Tonight in the 15 a well played rogue and Dk were still out bursting me

digital frigate Apr 13, 2019, 5:53 AM

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Yeah, rogue's are still strong rn

inland mesa Apr 13, 2019, 5:53 AM

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It's not our fault we make inferior players feel bad D:

digital frigate Apr 13, 2019, 5:54 AM

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We can also send a daily message on Twitter expressing our discontent with PTR sandbagging and draw more attention to DK 1 mil damage.

empty inlet Apr 13, 2019, 6:29 AM

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where do you get vanguard set from

undone sun Apr 13, 2019, 6:33 AM

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as in this set? https://www.wowhead.com/item=14854/vanguard-breastplate It's world drop BoE

empty inlet Apr 13, 2019, 6:36 AM

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monkaS?

bright pagoda Apr 13, 2019, 7:37 AM

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so i need 30 legion dungeons to get my blue hidden prot skin, should i just start whacking away through them on frenzy or something, prot would work too but i need speed...hmm, both my toons are like 100% mv speed

weary nacelle Apr 13, 2019, 7:58 AM

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have the news spread out yet? - TC talent 50% nerf

serene stag Apr 13, 2019, 7:59 AM

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Oh no

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prot is dead now guys

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the sky is falling

spice ferry Apr 13, 2019, 7:59 AM

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quick reroll

serene stag Apr 13, 2019, 7:59 AM

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Going outlaw rogue

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wait fuck

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THEY GOT NERFED TOO?!?

spice ferry Apr 13, 2019, 8:00 AM

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WHAT WILL WE DO

serene stag Apr 13, 2019, 8:00 AM

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Might as well stop playing the game

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fuck this shit

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(JK that's all sarcasm ya hear)

broken gale Apr 13, 2019, 8:02 AM

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they should buff subtlety

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and arms

spice ferry Apr 13, 2019, 8:02 AM

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bring back tos arms

broken gale Apr 13, 2019, 8:03 AM

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arms could have some good utility if they put their heads on right

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 8:08 AM

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pins @weary nacelle

weary nacelle Apr 13, 2019, 8:11 AM

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@sick sentinel thanks!

dusty flume Apr 13, 2019, 8:16 AM

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Spell reflect before thrown or before landing on grong?

half palm Apr 13, 2019, 8:17 AM

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So I missed legion but apparently there's a flail transmog? Can I still get that? Sorry off topic

full spruce Apr 13, 2019, 8:19 AM

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@dusty flume right before being picked up

dusty flume Apr 13, 2019, 8:19 AM

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And it ignores the damage?

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 8:20 AM

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The grab damage yes

dusty flume Apr 13, 2019, 8:20 AM

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Sweet

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 8:21 AM

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Cast spell reflect when he is still doing the third part of the combo

dusty flume Apr 13, 2019, 8:21 AM

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Yep yep

mental scarab Apr 13, 2019, 8:25 AM

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But how big of a nerf is the 50% 🤔 we will stil be top dmg tanks ?

undone sun Apr 13, 2019, 8:26 AM

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6-10%

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pins

mental scarab Apr 13, 2019, 8:26 AM

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I dont know how pins work😛

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For real how do i check pins 🤔

undone sun Apr 13, 2019, 8:27 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/eVy3o98.png

Imgur

mental scarab Apr 13, 2019, 8:27 AM

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Thanks

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Now they need to buff SS so we do more ST dmg 🐒🐒

dusty flume Apr 13, 2019, 8:30 AM

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They need to creative an ability that lets us spam shield slam at 100% crit

undone sun Apr 13, 2019, 8:30 AM

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so bring back ABT tier

dusty flume Apr 13, 2019, 8:31 AM

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Lmao yea that was my joke

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 8:31 AM

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that was the joke

spice ferry Apr 13, 2019, 8:33 AM

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Does anyone know what monks get

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From the new neck thing

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 8:35 AM

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On the cd?

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We'll see on the ptr

marble cipher Apr 13, 2019, 8:55 AM

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Probably fort brew @spice ferry

sand condor Apr 13, 2019, 9:03 AM

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Fuck blizzard

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Now we need to do twice the claps

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 9:04 AM

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Eh not really

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Check pins

sand condor Apr 13, 2019, 9:04 AM

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I read it

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I will still try to do twice the claps

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 9:04 AM

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The more claps the better

strong forum Apr 13, 2019, 9:17 AM

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Just get 200% haste lo?

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 9:19 AM

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200%haste is bis

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Thunderclap every single gcd

austere oar Apr 13, 2019, 9:21 AM

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Only TC binded

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 9:23 AM

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With 200% haste and exactly 0 lag you can thunderclap 26.666 (repeating ofc) times in a single avatar

strong forum Apr 13, 2019, 9:23 AM

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NOT

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ENOUGH

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CLAPS

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😠

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THOSE CHEEKS NEED TO BE BOUNCIN BOI

outer dew Apr 13, 2019, 9:28 AM

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I've learned my lesson

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To never play with a FDK

strong forum Apr 13, 2019, 9:29 AM

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Well in 8.0 they were good

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God even

outer dew Apr 13, 2019, 9:30 AM

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https://clips.twitch.tv/ShinyTriumphantWoodpeckerFrankerZ

Twitch

carpenoctem63141 Playing World of Warcraft - Twitch Clips

Pulling 4 Tank 101 - Clipped by Moonsies

▶ Play video

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Never forgetting this shitty

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Azerite piece

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The way it can pull literally the world

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Is ridic

austere oar Apr 13, 2019, 9:31 AM

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Laser matrix heh

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Bad memories on Zul M trashes

oblique garnet Apr 13, 2019, 9:33 AM

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Wait so

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50% damage nerf to UF?

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Thats it?

austere oar Apr 13, 2019, 9:33 AM

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yet

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But seems like it

honest canopy Apr 13, 2019, 9:34 AM

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💞💞💞

oblique garnet Apr 13, 2019, 9:34 AM

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Thats nothing

austere oar Apr 13, 2019, 9:35 AM

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Expected and yet pretty decent

cobalt trellis Apr 13, 2019, 9:36 AM

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Wont there be any hota essence to reduce avatar cd? I read somewhere that there is said thing for prot palas coming in 8.2... and it might be available for all tanks

honest canopy Apr 13, 2019, 9:36 AM

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Defendibg warrior yday when i was a bit tipsy

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📎 Screenshot_20190413-113530.jpg

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📎 Screenshot_20190413-113557.jpg

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Then numbers came out

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Asked him this morning If warriors warriors Will be useless.

austere oar Apr 13, 2019, 9:37 AM

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Type of guy to play fotm each tier

strong forum Apr 13, 2019, 9:38 AM

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And still sucks

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He prolly thinks raider.io score matters

honest canopy Apr 13, 2019, 9:38 AM

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Hes very proud of beeing 2k Rio....

strong forum Apr 13, 2019, 9:38 AM

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Lamo

honest canopy Apr 13, 2019, 9:39 AM

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I said we all can be 2k Rio with any comp, since at that lvn its player ability that matters

strong forum Apr 13, 2019, 9:39 AM

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Can confirm, I literally boost my entire guild in m+

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With like triple shaman comps

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Triple casters n shit

austere oar Apr 13, 2019, 9:40 AM

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We had to kick out of a kick rotation a big dick m+ player of our raid bc he kept missing every kicks on Grong

oblique garnet Apr 13, 2019, 9:40 AM

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That nerf wont change anything

honest canopy Apr 13, 2019, 9:40 AM

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😂

strong forum Apr 13, 2019, 9:40 AM

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Yup it won't

oblique garnet Apr 13, 2019, 9:40 AM

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Except now stacking 3 dc wont be worth

strong forum Apr 13, 2019, 9:41 AM

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Especially with the new rings added in 8.2

honest canopy Apr 13, 2019, 9:41 AM

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More BoM

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With The more mastery

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Will be so gucci

strong forum Apr 13, 2019, 9:41 AM

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Prot will just continue to scale hard with traits

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Opposed to others

austere oar Apr 13, 2019, 9:41 AM

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Druids are coming in hard also

honest canopy Apr 13, 2019, 9:41 AM

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Like allways

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Sooner or later druids rise since The introduction of master

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Y

strong forum Apr 13, 2019, 9:42 AM

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For a second I got confused and thought you said master yi

echo granite Apr 13, 2019, 9:44 AM

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6% dps nerf is good)

strong forum Apr 13, 2019, 9:45 AM

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Ye it's not too much of a kick in the gut, respectable needed nerf but wont have a negative impact

echo granite Apr 13, 2019, 9:46 AM

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ye but i think i need to clotheup my druid

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)

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cuz dh is 405 at least

austere oar Apr 13, 2019, 9:47 AM

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Imagine a world where you have several tanks in MDI and each their own strat for the run

strong forum Apr 13, 2019, 9:47 AM

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Ye I just finished gearing vdh, 412 now
Working on pally atm

echo granite Apr 13, 2019, 9:47 AM

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i really interested to test pally monk and dk but firstly i must lvlup them

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and that tough

strong forum Apr 13, 2019, 9:48 AM

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Don't play bdk and monk if you like being gcd capped

echo granite Apr 13, 2019, 9:48 AM

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i have prot, veng and guard now

strong forum Apr 13, 2019, 9:48 AM

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Bdk is beyond slow spec

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Hate it, regret having leveled it

austere oar Apr 13, 2019, 9:48 AM

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And bdk is bdk

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So dont play it

strong forum Apr 13, 2019, 9:48 AM

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Ye, 0 dps aswell

echo granite Apr 13, 2019, 9:49 AM

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😄

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guys is intercept works in shroud

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and dont pull?

strong forum Apr 13, 2019, 9:49 AM

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No

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It's an ability

austere oar Apr 13, 2019, 9:49 AM

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Nope

echo granite Apr 13, 2019, 9:49 AM

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😦

strong forum Apr 13, 2019, 9:49 AM

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Any ability will get you out of stealth

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Any ability but gliding as Dh

echo granite Apr 13, 2019, 9:49 AM

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got problems cuz of ms

strong forum Apr 13, 2019, 9:49 AM

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🤔

echo granite Apr 13, 2019, 9:50 AM

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in temple

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i think rog started shroud to early

strong forum Apr 13, 2019, 9:50 AM

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Just run ahead

echo granite Apr 13, 2019, 9:50 AM

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but i'm too slow just running

strong forum Apr 13, 2019, 9:50 AM

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You should know the path

echo granite Apr 13, 2019, 9:50 AM

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i know

strong forum Apr 13, 2019, 9:50 AM

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You can be ahead of the rogue

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Without worries

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Or speed pot before

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If you're really worried

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Or the rogue just did it too early and it's not your fault

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And didn't wait for you to catch up

oblique garnet Apr 13, 2019, 9:53 AM

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Heroic leap

echo granite Apr 13, 2019, 9:53 AM

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is heroic leap works?

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i mean i will be in shroud until i will fly in air?

austere oar Apr 13, 2019, 9:53 AM

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I'd say you stay shrouded until the impact

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But idk

ionic fern Apr 13, 2019, 10:06 AM

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Pretty sure any action breaks shroud..including jumping off with Heroic LEap

oblique garnet Apr 13, 2019, 10:06 AM

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it does

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but you get put back into stealth when you leap

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lands

ionic fern Apr 13, 2019, 10:07 AM

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Will it reset the mobs you took aggro with when you jumped tho?

oblique garnet Apr 13, 2019, 10:10 AM

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yes

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but you have to have certain spot to do the leap in temple

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and its annoyingly difficult

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 10:11 AM

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Speedpot tho

drowsy hound Apr 13, 2019, 10:14 AM

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you guys think that protty will still be viable to higher keys despite the clap nurf coz of his survi? or the peeps will freak out like "omfg nerfed useless now gtfo"?

marble oyster Apr 13, 2019, 10:18 AM

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is Stamina higher prio then haste?

austere oar Apr 13, 2019, 10:19 AM

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If you're talking about dropping ilvl on rings for better secondaries you can

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Not too much tho

marble oyster Apr 13, 2019, 10:21 AM

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got a 380 vs a 395 ring, the 380 got 280 haste and the 395 got like 122haste

austere oar Apr 13, 2019, 10:21 AM

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Go for 395

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Haste is good but not worth throwing the rest

echo granite Apr 13, 2019, 10:22 AM

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is there some mastery cap?

marble oyster Apr 13, 2019, 10:22 AM

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1,5k

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sorry the 395 ring dont got haste

austere oar Apr 13, 2019, 10:23 AM

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Go for 395 anyway

marble oyster Apr 13, 2019, 10:23 AM

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okey

ionic fern Apr 13, 2019, 10:23 AM

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@drowsy hound we will still be viable. They only touched our DPS so our survivability is still in-tact. Don't go freaking out about it just yet. : )

echo granite Apr 13, 2019, 10:23 AM

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how many haste do u have now

marble oyster Apr 13, 2019, 10:24 AM

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i got 1.6k atm

eager tartan Apr 13, 2019, 10:24 AM

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my biggest fear was them changing survival in fact

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so far I'm ok with the nerf

echo granite Apr 13, 2019, 10:24 AM

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man %

marble oyster Apr 13, 2019, 10:24 AM

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well hard to tell cuz of talent gives 15% on 5 nearby

eager tartan Apr 13, 2019, 10:24 AM

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btw, does anyone know which talent cd will be decreased for brewmasters?

echo granite Apr 13, 2019, 10:25 AM

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😄 lol just delete brew from the game

austere oar Apr 13, 2019, 10:25 AM

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Probably Fort Brew

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Since brew doesnt have proper Cd

eager tartan Apr 13, 2019, 10:25 AM

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indeed, 8.2 gotta be a boring one for monks it seems

marble oyster Apr 13, 2019, 10:25 AM

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i did main brewmaster in legion and start of BFA

eager tartan Apr 13, 2019, 10:25 AM

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I was considering switching to another tank but meh

marble oyster Apr 13, 2019, 10:26 AM

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but with lack of survival i change to warrior

austere oar Apr 13, 2019, 10:26 AM

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Monk is still king in raids

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By far

echo granite Apr 13, 2019, 10:26 AM

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lol pally on 4th place on rio

eager tartan Apr 13, 2019, 10:26 AM

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of course, my issue is not viability is just sheer boredom with the monk xD

austere oar Apr 13, 2019, 10:27 AM

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But yeah monk's AM is pretty boring

eager tartan Apr 13, 2019, 10:27 AM

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might try to gear up my druid or dh and see how it goes

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prob dh though,

echo granite Apr 13, 2019, 10:28 AM

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seems like 8.2 will be the best m+ season

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if they will not buff druids and dh too many

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warriors still will be doing a lot of dps

drowsy hound Apr 13, 2019, 10:30 AM

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@ionic fern thanks for answer, im just curious, liking warr too much to reroll coz of fotm

autumn pendant Apr 13, 2019, 10:54 AM

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@echo granite they might add more nerfs

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over time

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50% nerf on UF might be just start

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 10:54 AM

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Exactly

full spruce Apr 13, 2019, 10:56 AM

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Good thing I’ve maintained all 6 tanks 410-416. I’d like to see some more to veng; it’s pretty boring to play

autumn pendant Apr 13, 2019, 10:56 AM

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Madman

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 10:56 AM

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Huge

echo granite Apr 13, 2019, 10:57 AM

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omagad so many time spend

full spruce Apr 13, 2019, 10:57 AM

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War monk 47 neck. Other 4 are like I think midway into 44

echo granite Apr 13, 2019, 10:58 AM

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are u working or studying cuz alot of time needed

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for this

full spruce Apr 13, 2019, 10:58 AM

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I really been thinking of multiboxing them to AP swoop much faster

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I work

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Do a min of Mythic champs, +10s and islands on all. AP swoop as much as I can before I get sick

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Main prog on warrior. Though changed it up this week for monk 5/9

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Just need a better guild. All this time spent not seeing fruits of labor

autumn pendant Apr 13, 2019, 11:02 AM

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F

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 11:08 AM

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That's

full spruce Apr 13, 2019, 11:08 AM

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Whole wall of F. Hate myself that I’m addicted to doing it. But playing them all makes the game still fun

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 11:08 AM

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A lot of work

bright pagoda Apr 13, 2019, 11:08 AM

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anyone know of a weakaura to display spell reflection

full spruce Apr 13, 2019, 11:08 AM

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Not really. The AP swoop is

bright pagoda Apr 13, 2019, 11:08 AM

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i found the same one that keeps popping up, but it does not work, at all, it says it shows up to 3 bars etc but it flat is broken

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 11:08 AM

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@bright pagoda I use a package and it has it in

bright pagoda Apr 13, 2019, 11:08 AM

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what package? ill rip it out, the code that is

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 11:08 AM

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Wait what do you mean

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Don't you want one to track the buff?

full spruce Apr 13, 2019, 11:10 AM

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Tuesday morning till this week. I did 5x Mythic champs. My server bleeding hollow US horde people would wait for my groups cause we always 1 shot. But I work graveyard so every morning I get home I AP swoop. Raid wed thurs. Sat I do my +10s, swoop and log. Sunday AP swoop and islands. Most Monday’s I just don’t play

bright pagoda Apr 13, 2019, 11:10 AM

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i want one to track uhh

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 11:11 AM

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Imagine having such a successful group that people wait for you

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Huge

bright pagoda Apr 13, 2019, 11:11 AM

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basically if someone is casting on me, so i when i know to reflect

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 11:11 AM

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That's in the pins fam

bright pagoda Apr 13, 2019, 11:11 AM

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if its the one that shows 3 red bars, it did not work for me

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 11:11 AM

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If you got a problem with it

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Go to #ui-addons-manager

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And ping marok

bright pagoda Apr 13, 2019, 11:12 AM

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aye same one

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thanks ill do that

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made sure everything was right, placed it even right above my toon. tested it with pcs, then npcs. never got a bar, let alone anything else. so i dunno what was going on, but it looks PERFECT to use if i can work it

hasty quarry Apr 13, 2019, 11:12 AM

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fotmers

full spruce Apr 13, 2019, 11:13 AM

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@sick sentinel it helps. To have the regulars show and bring 2-3 of their alts. Now that it’s crossrealm I still bring the regs but I fill groups in 5 mins. So it’s much faster

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 11:13 AM

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It makes everything easier

bright pagoda Apr 13, 2019, 11:13 AM

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@sick sentinel if im reading this right, i have to cast spell reflection BEFORE any spell is cast? is that what it means on the description? " Color Reflected Spell: Upon casting Spell Reflection, the first incoming spell's bar will turn green as that's the one you will reflect."

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just double checking

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 11:13 AM

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Yeah

bright pagoda Apr 13, 2019, 11:13 AM

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hmm ok

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 11:14 AM

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That's how the ability works

bright pagoda Apr 13, 2019, 11:14 AM

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i know ive casted it a few times premature with no bar, but im going to re-create it anyway

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well yeah, but usually i cast it when a spell is halfway or nearly landing

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not before a spell is cast

hasty quarry Apr 13, 2019, 11:14 AM

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is this a real question

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 11:14 AM

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You need to have reflect before cast ends

bright pagoda Apr 13, 2019, 11:14 AM

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yeah

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always did, ok looks like an issue to take to where you said for sure

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 11:15 AM

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Even if the buff expires while the spell is flying, you still reflect

bright pagoda Apr 13, 2019, 11:16 AM

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since no display has been working while ive been running timewalks, soon as i see a cast i just hit it, and see the reflect. but ide love to see the bars

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 11:17 AM

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It's only made for bfa dungeons

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Putting timewalking in there would serve very little purpose and would have made the weak aura a lot heavier

frosty holly Apr 13, 2019, 11:22 AM

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Deafening Crash Tracker giving other people Lua Errors?

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 11:22 AM

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I stopped using it a long time ago

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Try updating it

frosty holly Apr 13, 2019, 11:27 AM

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Cheers

sharp lotus Apr 13, 2019, 11:50 AM

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What is "heal sniping"?

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 11:50 AM

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Never heard of that term

marble cipher Apr 13, 2019, 11:54 AM

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It's when one healer quickly does a big heal or big cd when another one is doing it too. Often refered to when a mistweaver does revival cause he sees the druid do tranquility. Revival hits much faster and will have healed up almost all the damage so the tranq does next to nothing.
It's some fun banter between healers for their parses.

sharp lotus Apr 13, 2019, 11:55 AM

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ah

mental scarab Apr 13, 2019, 11:55 AM

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Like prot war dps sniping /dab

umbral forge Apr 13, 2019, 11:55 AM

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Also refers to healers using quick inefficient heals to heal when there's no damage going out. Flash Heal over heal etc

astral crystal Apr 13, 2019, 11:58 AM

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kaege how can you raid and not know about heal sniping

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it's how healers keep themselves entertained

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 11:59 AM

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I never actually gave a shit

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I know that they do it

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I haven't heard of the term

worthy dagger Apr 13, 2019, 12:01 PM

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healers that overheal instead of dpsing should be banned from wow

dull tinsel Apr 13, 2019, 12:20 PM

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RIP

📎 image0.png

sweet kettle Apr 13, 2019, 12:25 PM

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ffs

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 12:25 PM

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@dull tinsel pins

sweet kettle Apr 13, 2019, 12:25 PM

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not really rip no

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 12:25 PM

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Fucking stop

dull tinsel Apr 13, 2019, 12:27 PM

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10% dps decrease

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sounds like a rip to me , DK back on top next season

sweet kettle Apr 13, 2019, 12:27 PM

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kappa

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 12:27 PM

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Lol

dull tinsel Apr 13, 2019, 12:27 PM

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😛

sweet kettle Apr 13, 2019, 12:27 PM

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dk cant handle the damage

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 12:27 PM

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Dk just falls over

dull tinsel Apr 13, 2019, 12:28 PM

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Guardian on top

eager tartan Apr 13, 2019, 12:28 PM

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Make yourself a favour and check also the new "tank" thingy for the neck

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spoiler, for warriors is Avatar

dull tinsel Apr 13, 2019, 12:28 PM

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make myself a favour

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ok then

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 12:29 PM

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We can make exactly 0 assumptions rn

worthy dagger Apr 13, 2019, 12:46 PM

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just realized Safenko uses synaptic over Gizmo

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😮

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 12:49 PM

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Idk why tho

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Like there is no reason to do so

worthy dagger Apr 13, 2019, 12:50 PM

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its 10k damage + 5% reduction

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but gizmo is really good

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 12:51 PM

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Gismo is better both defensively and offensively

worthy dagger Apr 13, 2019, 12:52 PM

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idk, maybe he found something we didnt

fallen rose Apr 13, 2019, 1:34 PM

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I am curious about how the CD reduction thing is going to get balanced as paladin CD is both offensive and defensive where as avatar is many offensive so it will be a nightmare to balance well

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 1:35 PM

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Those powers will be available to everyone

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Some will be better on some tanks

fallen rose Apr 13, 2019, 1:35 PM

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Ye that is what I mean

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 1:35 PM

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And some others will be better on other tanks

fallen rose Apr 13, 2019, 1:36 PM

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Also alot of tweeking will happen before it is on live servers

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 1:36 PM

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And tbf avatar is a pretty defensive cd

marble cipher Apr 13, 2019, 1:36 PM

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The BrM one is basically even more mitigation... Good for defense, but doesn't do anything meaningful on a spec that already doesn't die...

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 1:36 PM

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With BoM

ancient reef Apr 13, 2019, 1:37 PM

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guardians get SI man so yeah be happy

marble cipher Apr 13, 2019, 1:37 PM

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Much more interested in it on my warrior for avatar 👌

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Haha

ancient reef Apr 13, 2019, 1:38 PM

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not sure like a huge defense cd is even really a usefull proc or is it an on demand thing

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olike if you cant plan a pull around it whats the point

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 1:38 PM

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That's why this is going to be great for warriors as a major

ancient reef Apr 13, 2019, 1:38 PM

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never a bad time to be in avatar

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 1:38 PM

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But great for brms

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As a minor

fallen rose Apr 13, 2019, 1:39 PM

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I think the attack speed minor one will be pretty good as it does not have an internal CD yet but will probably be fixed

ancient reef Apr 13, 2019, 1:39 PM

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guess brms could roll into anothe pack if it procs

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 1:39 PM

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The minor is the heal when you activate your thing

marble cipher Apr 13, 2019, 1:39 PM

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In m+ you can, in raids if it procs while not actively tanking, it'll suck

ancient reef Apr 13, 2019, 1:40 PM

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thing is cd arent balanced so a cd proc aint balanced

marble cipher Apr 13, 2019, 1:40 PM

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But, overall, I like the look of those neck essences

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 1:40 PM

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That's why you can freely change then

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And you have so many to choose from

marble cipher Apr 13, 2019, 1:40 PM

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Aye

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 1:41 PM

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Ptr is very soon

fallen rose Apr 13, 2019, 1:41 PM

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Ye I like it I do hope they add some class ones at some point but for now I think it is pretty good

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 1:41 PM

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Just wait for that

jagged bay Apr 13, 2019, 1:41 PM

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hey have a nice weekend everyone 😃

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 1:41 PM

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U2 @jagged bay ❤

ancient reef Apr 13, 2019, 1:41 PM

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yall did the math what is the total dps loss for the tclap change

jagged bay Apr 13, 2019, 1:41 PM

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thank you!:)

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 1:41 PM

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pins

ancient reef Apr 13, 2019, 1:41 PM

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ty

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not so bad so at like 15k you lose 1.5k so your still at 13.5k

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so be around prot pally level

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 1:42 PM

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Well

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If you were 15k overall in a dungeon

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You're baaaaad

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St tank damage will be a lot more competitive

ancient reef Apr 13, 2019, 1:45 PM

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not like sb got a nerf

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 1:45 PM

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Exactly

fallen rose Apr 13, 2019, 1:45 PM

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I that to make warriors way more enjoyable they should bring back variable IP rage cost

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 1:46 PM

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Our surv is completely unaffected

ancient reef Apr 13, 2019, 1:46 PM

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also not like your now the worst dps tank

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still prolly top

fallen rose Apr 13, 2019, 1:46 PM

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I know I just like variable IP cost

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Gives you more to think about

ionic fern Apr 13, 2019, 1:47 PM

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You did 30k overall before..now you're gonna do like 27k..not that big of a deal.
You will still survive, you will still do decent uncapped DPS and the playstyle still remains reasonably fast and enjoyable.

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 1:47 PM

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Exactly

fallen rose Apr 13, 2019, 1:48 PM

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Yes I am really enjoying prot ATM

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We will do way less overall damage but that is not a nurf but because there will be no reaping to smash after new patch

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 1:52 PM

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Yee

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No reaping is also a nerf

fallen rose Apr 13, 2019, 1:53 PM

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A way bigger nerf than 10%

worthy dagger Apr 13, 2019, 1:54 PM

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were still gonna be the big aoe dicks

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maybe guardian will take over but who knows

ancient reef Apr 13, 2019, 1:55 PM

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doubht it

fallen rose Apr 13, 2019, 1:55 PM

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Maybe at base TC damage but with 3 stacks of might I don't think so

visual cedar Apr 13, 2019, 2:07 PM

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!pins

autumn pendant Apr 13, 2019, 2:08 PM

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I really feel they not gonna stop at one talent nerf

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 2:08 PM

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@visual cedar just click on them

visual cedar Apr 13, 2019, 2:09 PM

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@sick sentinel im on my phone

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 2:09 PM

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📎 Screenshot_20190413-170939.png

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3 dots

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:14 PM

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this shit calm down yet?

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 2:14 PM

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Eh

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Yeah

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:15 PM

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thank god that was insane

primal crypt Apr 13, 2019, 2:15 PM

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What'd i miss? @sand egret

autumn pendant Apr 13, 2019, 2:15 PM

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marok

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 2:16 PM

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A shitshow

autumn pendant Apr 13, 2019, 2:16 PM

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Prob people freaking out caus eof that nerf

primal crypt Apr 13, 2019, 2:16 PM

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We're not viable right?

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 2:16 PM

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When the announcement of the nerf hit

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:16 PM

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The freakout that somehow people were surprised UF got clipped

primal crypt Apr 13, 2019, 2:16 PM

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Lol

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LOL

autumn pendant Apr 13, 2019, 2:16 PM

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Lol they are monkeys

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:16 PM

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like people ACTUALLY thought it would remain

primal crypt Apr 13, 2019, 2:16 PM

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WE ARE NOT VIABLE ANYMORE

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viable is back

autumn pendant Apr 13, 2019, 2:17 PM

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@sand egret baffles me too. Every average IQ person knew dmg nerf was comming

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 2:17 PM

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@lusty grotto

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viable is back

ionic fern Apr 13, 2019, 2:17 PM

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No. Make it leave.

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 2:17 PM

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Lol

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:17 PM

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"what we gonna hit?"
"the thing that multiplies a given damage number by effectively four times the value to cause a problem for any potential scaling they want to do in/around that ability?"
"naw fam"

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 2:18 PM

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They should have nerfed our revenge damage tbh

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And triple stacking CR

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:18 PM

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longer animation wind up

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i really wanna see my muscles ripple

abstract gate Apr 13, 2019, 2:18 PM

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is there a Zandalari Embrace of the Loa that seems to be better for Prot atm?

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 2:18 PM

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Paku

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:18 PM

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eh, Pa'ku is prob your bet

abstract gate Apr 13, 2019, 2:18 PM

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kk thanks

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:19 PM

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disclaimer that they're pretty negligible

abstract gate Apr 13, 2019, 2:19 PM

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gotcha

primal crypt Apr 13, 2019, 2:19 PM

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What's the dmg order numerically?

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TC still above rev?

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:19 PM

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yeah

primal crypt Apr 13, 2019, 2:19 PM

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Lul

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50%

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Rotation still the same

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:19 PM

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it's like a 10% overall hit in AoE situations all things considered

primal crypt Apr 13, 2019, 2:20 PM

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Yeah, i was hoping for a change in revenge

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:20 PM

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22k to 20k overall

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

primal crypt Apr 13, 2019, 2:20 PM

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To make it feel better

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Revenge is dudu

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:20 PM

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they need to stop pretending its Rampage

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or

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make it like Rampage

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lol

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 2:20 PM

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Lol

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:20 PM

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but a Rampage without the Rampage is silly

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look at this visceral animation....that hits slightly harder than your filler in AoE

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womp

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i'm a firm believer that the long wind up is a huge reason why revenge feels like shit way more so than the damage numbers would show

primal crypt Apr 13, 2019, 2:23 PM

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Its a really awkward skill

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Between ST/AoE

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 2:23 PM

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It spreads deep woonds

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In aoe

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Don't underestimate that

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:24 PM

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not gonna lie even after all my times using it, part of my brain asks "am I lagging" when I go back on my warrior and use it

primal crypt Apr 13, 2019, 2:24 PM

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@sick sentinel yeah i understand that it's good for that

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:24 PM

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on a pure feel level, it's weird

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i get it's point

primal crypt Apr 13, 2019, 2:25 PM

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But there are still times where I find myself considering other globals

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Mostly in ST though

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:25 PM

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im only talking about how the ability feels stinky, despite being animated to not. Rampage hits like a truck so its unique animation works really well. Revenge is just...meh.

primal crypt Apr 13, 2019, 2:25 PM

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Aoe is just spamming anyways

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 2:26 PM

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The trick is

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To pull so many mobs

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That you can't see your own animations

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:26 PM

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or use the transmog toy

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but yeah, it's a little hill I'll die on

primal crypt Apr 13, 2019, 2:26 PM

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📎 JPEG_20190413_102651.jpg

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:27 PM

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.....

primal crypt Apr 13, 2019, 2:27 PM

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I just ran my coffee without the mug under because I was talking to you guys about revenge

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:27 PM

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did you fuck up automatic coffee

primal crypt Apr 13, 2019, 2:27 PM

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Fuck

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:27 PM

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LOL

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 2:27 PM

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LOL

primal crypt Apr 13, 2019, 2:27 PM

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Literally pushed the button

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:27 PM

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NO YOGURT IN SIGHT

primal crypt Apr 13, 2019, 2:27 PM

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And walked away

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Fuck me

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 2:27 PM

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Nice

primal crypt Apr 13, 2019, 2:27 PM

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It's everywhere

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 2:27 PM

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Have fun

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:27 PM

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that made my morning

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thank you Yam

primal crypt Apr 13, 2019, 2:27 PM

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Im leaving that pic there too

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See how fucked up revenge is?

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Messing shit up in real life

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That picture is relevant to #protection now

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Fuckkkkkkkk there's so much coffee

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:29 PM

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it's a metaphor

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the coffee is the nerfs

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and Yam is every warrior who didn't see the UF hit coming

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and that picture, was this channel last night

primal crypt Apr 13, 2019, 2:30 PM

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Lol

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viable

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:30 PM

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ugh

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here we go again

primal crypt Apr 13, 2019, 2:32 PM

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I literally fucked up automatic coffee

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Wow

unborn island Apr 13, 2019, 2:32 PM

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Guys with the nerfs, do we think prot will be viable in 8.2? Or do you think we will need to stack leech to compensate?

primal crypt Apr 13, 2019, 2:32 PM

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LOL

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I'm done

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 2:32 PM

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LOL

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:32 PM

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👀

primal crypt Apr 13, 2019, 2:33 PM

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Bye

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:33 PM

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lata

unborn island Apr 13, 2019, 2:33 PM

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Trolololol

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 2:33 PM

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@primal crypt loose is a known memer fam

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:33 PM

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that was a well constructed troll

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References Nerfs, drops the V word and wraps it up with a Leech itemization question. Only missing the "drop ilvl for Leech" part and of course, "haste cap", my new personal fav

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8/10

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 2:34 PM

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Lol

primal crypt Apr 13, 2019, 2:34 PM

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Oh I know loose

unborn island Apr 13, 2019, 2:34 PM

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I'm not familiar with the haste cap meme?

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 2:34 PM

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8/10 is pretty good tbh

primal crypt Apr 13, 2019, 2:35 PM

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It was such a strong statement to my coffee problems

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:35 PM

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read the Lepan guide

primal crypt Apr 13, 2019, 2:35 PM

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I had to step away

unborn island Apr 13, 2019, 2:35 PM

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Hahaha

primal crypt Apr 13, 2019, 2:35 PM

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Haste cap

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Holy shit haste cap

unborn island Apr 13, 2019, 2:35 PM

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Wait we have haste cap now,should I drop ilvl to get away from haste?

primal crypt Apr 13, 2019, 2:35 PM

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You want less haste

unborn island Apr 13, 2019, 2:35 PM

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Don't wanna overlap that shit

primal crypt Apr 13, 2019, 2:36 PM

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Least amount of haste possible

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:36 PM

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more time to think about the abilities = less mistakes

austere oar Apr 13, 2019, 2:36 PM

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get leech instead

unborn island Apr 13, 2019, 2:36 PM

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I heard haste makes us take damage faster, can you please confirm, Lepan guide said so

autumn pendant Apr 13, 2019, 2:36 PM

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You need 100% haste now to be viable

unborn island Apr 13, 2019, 2:36 PM

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I meme because I currently suck at actually playing the game

autumn pendant Apr 13, 2019, 2:36 PM

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Trust me

unborn island Apr 13, 2019, 2:37 PM

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I spend too much time reading about it at work etc

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:37 PM

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tbf, it wasn't his statement that was wrong....it was the implication of said statement in absence of proper context 😄

unborn island Apr 13, 2019, 2:37 PM

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And not enough chance to actually play

primal crypt Apr 13, 2019, 2:37 PM

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Who vouched for his guide at wowhead lol

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 2:37 PM

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200% haste

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thunder clap every single gcd

primal crypt Apr 13, 2019, 2:37 PM

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2000%*

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New haste cap

autumn pendant Apr 13, 2019, 2:37 PM

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I dont even know what lepan's guide said

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And i sure wont read it lol

unborn island Apr 13, 2019, 2:37 PM

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I wasn't even aware of it, don't know how I missed it

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:37 PM

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it implied you itemize haste around block cdr

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while completely not mentioning the value haste provides via AM

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 2:38 PM

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active mitigation?

primal crypt Apr 13, 2019, 2:38 PM

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LUL

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 2:38 PM

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isn't that block cdr?

primal crypt Apr 13, 2019, 2:38 PM

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Ahahahahahahaha

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:38 PM

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i hate you

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 2:39 PM

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

primal crypt Apr 13, 2019, 2:39 PM

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My coffee is so much better now

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Since it's in my mug

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 2:39 PM

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Sorry I couldn't help it

primal crypt Apr 13, 2019, 2:39 PM

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And not the counter top

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And @sick sentinel is bringing in the big guns LUL

unborn island Apr 13, 2019, 2:40 PM

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What I wanna know

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Is when we get battle cry+SS spam back

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That would make me less sad about not being viablr

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 2:41 PM

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With bfi pls

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Thank

unborn island Apr 13, 2019, 2:41 PM

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That said with TW, I am levelling my mage now to re roll

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Warrior tank or no tank

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Thanjs

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Thanks*

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 2:42 PM

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I'm also levelling a mage lol

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For nightbourne heritage

unborn island Apr 13, 2019, 2:42 PM

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I imagine there is going to be some kind of melee/ranged rebalancing

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 2:42 PM

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I will stick with maining woyer tho

unborn island Apr 13, 2019, 2:42 PM

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Of course

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Will never actually reroll

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:43 PM

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i just can't not tank

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everything else seems boring in WoW

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luckily, there's a lot of tanks 😃

unborn island Apr 13, 2019, 2:43 PM

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Just think that ranged should be able to massively outdps melee if they can turret, meaning that they are balanced when they can't (which these days is...all the time)

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 2:43 PM

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I was a melee dps

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For over 10 years

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And I was planning to go fury

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:43 PM

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they tried that Loose

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 2:44 PM

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But we were missing a tank in uldir

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:44 PM

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issue comes down to how harder boss design becomes

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 2:44 PM

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And here I am now

unborn island Apr 13, 2019, 2:44 PM

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Mmm fair

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:44 PM

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then they went the other way

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and everyone got instants

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and that sucked

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cuz it was like....do I want a ranged melee or a melee melee

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but It's a neat problem

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interested to see how they try to address it this time

unborn island Apr 13, 2019, 2:45 PM

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I guess...the whole 'fantasy' aspect to me-ie a guy who needs to spend ages to unleash a massive blast of arcane energy

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:45 PM

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i feel ya

unborn island Apr 13, 2019, 2:45 PM

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Should be able to fucking roast shit when they are able to do it

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:45 PM

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cast time > pay-off for sure

austere oar Apr 13, 2019, 2:46 PM

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I mean ranged are not bad in raids

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pretty dominant

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 2:46 PM

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We're at a point where melee are not taken lol

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:46 PM

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there was a GDC talk years ago about something similar to th is

austere oar Apr 13, 2019, 2:46 PM

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yeah you generally want as little melees as possible

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:47 PM

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i believe it was called "why range matters"

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talked about it from many angles, really neat stuff

primal crypt Apr 13, 2019, 2:49 PM

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I'm glad fury was decent

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allowed me to tank the current raid tank spot LUL

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ninja slide in and take current main tank spot

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opop

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 2:49 PM

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Overtake them from inside

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Why search for a tankspot when you can make one

austere oar Apr 13, 2019, 2:50 PM

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tell them the tank discord said 3 tanks strats for every bosses

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:51 PM

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hmm, so I'm going to spam some TW. Prot Pally or BDK? I got both at 110, but I would need to actually find a shield for my pally and actually learn wtf im doing....

austere oar Apr 13, 2019, 2:51 PM

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pal obv

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DK belongs in the trash

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 2:51 PM

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^^

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:51 PM

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but I can't stand pallies lol

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 2:51 PM

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Well to be fair

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Would have done dk

austere oar Apr 13, 2019, 2:52 PM

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but tbh I hate the paladin rotation flow

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:52 PM

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but it IS the only tank I haven't played

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 2:52 PM

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I am not going to make a monk or a paladin ever

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Like the class

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Not my thing

austere oar Apr 13, 2019, 2:53 PM

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why wouldnt u wanna go braindead and play monk 🤔

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:53 PM

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the mobility is fun as fuck, tbh

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you can pull off some hilarious setups

austere oar Apr 13, 2019, 2:54 PM

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me press ISB me take 3 consecutive smashes on grong

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:54 PM

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i mean, that's raid tanking so that's not a me thing

austere oar Apr 13, 2019, 2:54 PM

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idk I hate m+ personnally ^^

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:54 PM

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but it's a nice trade-off in playstyle.

lunar jackal Apr 13, 2019, 2:55 PM

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410 wrists with crit versa and avoidance or 400 wrists with haste versa and socket?

sand egret Apr 13, 2019, 2:55 PM

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yeah i'm the total opposite haha

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take the 410 tbh

unborn island Apr 13, 2019, 2:55 PM

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410

jovial haven Apr 13, 2019, 2:59 PM

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So I managed to get the diamond last night without having to coin for it, finally.

olive merlin Apr 13, 2019, 3:06 PM

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I actually like the bdk playstyle.. .he's 409 atm while my pally is lvl 112 lol

primal sable Apr 13, 2019, 3:15 PM

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doesnt it feel slow to you?

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 3:16 PM

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Well it's reactive

primal sable Apr 13, 2019, 3:17 PM

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even so

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maybe its the haste

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or the gcd changes

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i felt like i was just sitting there waiting for runes

jovial haven Apr 13, 2019, 3:25 PM

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it's slow if you don't have a lot of haste

analog swift Apr 13, 2019, 3:26 PM

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Honestly I think the BDK playstyle is the most boring

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worse than Brew

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get ur BS stacks up

jovial haven Apr 13, 2019, 3:26 PM

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but yea, it's a reactive tanking style than a proactive style

analog swift Apr 13, 2019, 3:26 PM

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hit HS until you have rp

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deathstrike when you take damage

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gg

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none of their cds aside from AMS feel good to use

jovial haven Apr 13, 2019, 3:27 PM

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but the worst thing BDK has going for them is the garbage azerite traits. all the blood specific traits are garbage, might as well be wearing non azerite gear

analog swift Apr 13, 2019, 3:27 PM

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yeah

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and that's what's really caused their "nerf"

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like Brew azerite traits are fucking amazing

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a totally night and day different from when I'd just tank with WW traits on vs. when I rock my ToNx3

jovial haven Apr 13, 2019, 3:28 PM

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I understand blizz doesn't want blood to be so OP but, to make traits that garbage and then leave them with no changes is just horrible

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but i still play mine, along with my prot warrior and pally. i like the playstyles, with each being different

analog swift Apr 13, 2019, 3:30 PM

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i pretty much only bring my BDK for fights where I need a mass grip

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the rot is just so boring

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warrior is so much fun and the flow of not having 100% uptime on AM and weaving in LS is tons of fun

jovial haven Apr 13, 2019, 3:37 PM

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yes prot warrior and pally both are more fun to play, but i still keep my dk up to par with the others just because, but i still like playin all of them.

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kind of tempted to level another character but not sure if i should or not

olive merlin Apr 13, 2019, 3:39 PM

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I like the theme of the bdk. Also played a magicka nightblade tank in eso..was similar is some ways

ornate wagon Apr 13, 2019, 3:59 PM

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so the warrior nerf doesnt seem too bad

undone sun Apr 13, 2019, 4:00 PM

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correct

digital frigate Apr 13, 2019, 4:04 PM

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Hello. Is stacking avoidance and leech the new meta in 8.2?

olive merlin Apr 13, 2019, 4:04 PM

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Are there note available for the changes?

ornate wagon Apr 13, 2019, 4:04 PM

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is that a meme?

digital frigate Apr 13, 2019, 4:05 PM

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Is it

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 4:06 PM

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It is a meme

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Lol

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@olive merlin pins

undone sun Apr 13, 2019, 4:07 PM

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https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/rise-of-azshara-ptr-initial-class-changes/149899 @olive merlin

World of Warcraft Forums

Rise of Azshara PTR - Initial Class Changes

We’ve been working on a suite of targeted changes that focus on improving gameplay for several specs. You’re going to see changes that are close to the following in the first build of the Rise of Azshara PTR (coming next week). Demon Hunter Vengeance Demonic Wards: d...

mortal brook Apr 13, 2019, 4:15 PM

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@digital frigate everyone knows Indestructible is the superior tertiary

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 4:16 PM

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Indestructible on shields tho

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Bis

potent anvil Apr 13, 2019, 4:38 PM

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my shield is indestructible deswind

grand drum Apr 13, 2019, 4:56 PM

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my shield has the best tertiary

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leech

dapper yacht Apr 13, 2019, 5:02 PM

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Would be fun to see BoM gets 50% nerf'd 😛 in next set of changes.

pearl lodge Apr 13, 2019, 5:04 PM

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All changes aside, I'm in the thought of levelling a tank. Would you say prot is a good spec for a newbie at tanking?

little grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:05 PM

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Im lvling prot and can pull all mobs hit avatar and soak xp

warm plinth Apr 13, 2019, 5:09 PM

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If you've never tanked before, it'll be a learning experience.

tired cove Apr 13, 2019, 5:09 PM

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deswind died in a +2 on stream

warm plinth Apr 13, 2019, 5:09 PM

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Yikes

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Prot is a very punishing spec to mistakes

pearl lodge Apr 13, 2019, 5:10 PM

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I have tanked some before, so not a complete newbie. But still not that experienced in tanking. Just gonna have it as an alt to have something else to do,

tired cove Apr 13, 2019, 5:11 PM

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mainly learn your defensives properly and you will be fine

warm plinth Apr 13, 2019, 5:11 PM

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If you're the type that will realize things you're doing wrong and immediately work to fix them, you should be fine. If you're the type that gets squashed 800 times and blames the healer each time, it probably isn't the spec for you.

tired cove Apr 13, 2019, 5:11 PM

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don't spam IP like a mongloid

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and don't use SB when you have LS up

warm plinth Apr 13, 2019, 5:11 PM

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Well he's leveling the character. He isn't going to have Bolster for a long time so that's not really relevant yet :p

tired cove Apr 13, 2019, 5:11 PM

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ahhhh

pearl lodge Apr 13, 2019, 5:12 PM

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I accept that I can make mistakes and try to improve on them. But I have a friend that says that prot warrior is a no go with the upcoming nerf

warm plinth Apr 13, 2019, 5:12 PM

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Your friend doesn't know what he's talking about tbh.

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No offense

tired cove Apr 13, 2019, 5:12 PM

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making mistakes is fine and accept, as long as you learn from them

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 5:12 PM

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Your friend has no clue lol

tired cove Apr 13, 2019, 5:12 PM

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acceptable*

pearl lodge Apr 13, 2019, 5:13 PM

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Just want a spec that is fun and engaging. Something to spend some time on when I'm not raiding or farming azerite on my main 😛

tired cove Apr 13, 2019, 5:13 PM

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no offense to your friend but i would ask in this discord before asking anyone in your guild or randomly person you're playing with

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while everyone in here is a jerk you will get more detailed answers and better help

pearl lodge Apr 13, 2019, 5:13 PM

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Ofc, this is the warrioir discord after all 😄

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 5:14 PM

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We're not jerks 🙁

pearl lodge Apr 13, 2019, 5:14 PM

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That is why I'm asking here and not going all in on what guildies and friends are saying

warm plinth Apr 13, 2019, 5:15 PM

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Jeez, this is the first time I'm hearing someone say we're jerks in here 🤔

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If we're jerks, better not go to....well, pretty much any other class discord lol

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:15 PM

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yo

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whats up

tired cove Apr 13, 2019, 5:15 PM

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i always say it

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but mainly in the dps channels

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and to d2

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:16 PM

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what up kaege fill me in

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 5:16 PM

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Ay nim you can call us the v word again

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:16 PM

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what did i miss

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ah

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50% on UF

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yeah that's fine

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shit i thought it would be worse

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 5:18 PM

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Yeah

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:18 PM

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that's not bad at all

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 5:18 PM

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Could be a lot worse lol

undone sun Apr 13, 2019, 5:18 PM

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so far...

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:18 PM

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yeah so far

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considering gains in ilvl though

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 5:19 PM

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The whole concept was a bit busted tbf

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:19 PM

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won't make a lot of difference

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 5:19 PM

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Double the damage and half the cd

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Like who wouldn't have thought it would do a lot

void heath Apr 13, 2019, 5:19 PM

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Guys what race are u playing as prot warrior:D? i kno the difference in classes makes no difference unless you are going for #1 but im a gnome and i really hate it xD

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:20 PM

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if you're alliance

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NE, Dwarf or DiD are the best

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if youre Horde, it don't matter really but BE has more utility

warm plinth Apr 13, 2019, 5:20 PM

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Dwarf/DID is safer, since Blizz said Smeld is on the radar D:

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:20 PM

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there you go

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shadowmeld is busted as fuck in keys so it wouldn't surprise me

tired cove Apr 13, 2019, 5:21 PM

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if you're horde go 1 of the new races more dps i forgot what its called

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war is all about the deeps

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:21 PM

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no

tired cove Apr 13, 2019, 5:21 PM

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you pop off and make everyoen else feel bad

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yes

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:21 PM

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Undead is the highest dps

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please stop

void heath Apr 13, 2019, 5:21 PM

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i can see the benefit of Shadowmeld but for that to be useful dont all the grp need to have some kind stealth?

tired cove Apr 13, 2019, 5:21 PM

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okay mr know it please show me your logs

warm plinth Apr 13, 2019, 5:21 PM

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You can do death skips with smeld without dying, so

undone sun Apr 13, 2019, 5:21 PM

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usually, yeah you'd want your entire group to be nelf for full effectiveness

merry cave Apr 13, 2019, 5:22 PM

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Undead ftw, top deeps, rezan can eat a dick and you get to be a sick flippygal

undone sun Apr 13, 2019, 5:22 PM

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but smeld still drops necro

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:22 PM

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https://bloodmallet.com/index.html#warrior_protection?data_view=races

Bloodmallet: data for all

Simulation data for everyone. Overview of DPS relevant simulation data for World of Warcraft.

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@tired cove

tired cove Apr 13, 2019, 5:22 PM

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LMFAO

undone sun Apr 13, 2019, 5:22 PM

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DID just does it better with the buff and no drop combat

tired cove Apr 13, 2019, 5:22 PM

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i'm done with you child enjoy the block

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:22 PM

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uhhh

warm plinth Apr 13, 2019, 5:22 PM

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Yikes

winter aspen Apr 13, 2019, 5:22 PM

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Wait what

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Meld drops necro ???

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:22 PM

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i have no idea what just hapenned lmao

undone sun Apr 13, 2019, 5:22 PM

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wat

warm plinth Apr 13, 2019, 5:22 PM

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Yeah

undone sun Apr 13, 2019, 5:22 PM

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@winter aspen yes

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:22 PM

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that was the quickest block ever

warm plinth Apr 13, 2019, 5:22 PM

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Because dropping combat drops necro

winter aspen Apr 13, 2019, 5:22 PM

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Instantly ?

warm plinth Apr 13, 2019, 5:22 PM

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Yep

undone sun Apr 13, 2019, 5:23 PM

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yes

merry cave Apr 13, 2019, 5:23 PM

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Yer

undone sun Apr 13, 2019, 5:23 PM

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necrotic drops off combat

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smeld drops combat

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:23 PM

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someone tell this dude that @ionic fern did the APL and that bloodmallet runs it on Simcraft

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???

void heath Apr 13, 2019, 5:23 PM

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But arent that dangerous since u will lose all threat instant also wont u?:p

undone sun Apr 13, 2019, 5:24 PM

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yes, you'd still have to work around that with stuns and what not

merry cave Apr 13, 2019, 5:24 PM

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The only time I went Dorf over ne on tourny realm was for greivous waycrest

undone sun Apr 13, 2019, 5:24 PM

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that's why i stated DiD is better

ionic fern Apr 13, 2019, 5:24 PM

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Mm?

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What's up?`

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:24 PM

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dunno man

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i got the quickest block today

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i wasn't even trying

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guy said zandalari was highest dps

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i said undead

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he said link me logs

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i linked bloodmallet

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📎 unknown.png

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lmao

merry cave Apr 13, 2019, 5:25 PM

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Maybe he race changed from undead today and can't handle the truth?

sick sentinel Apr 13, 2019, 5:25 PM

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I play 👡

ionic fern Apr 13, 2019, 5:25 PM

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UD is actually the highest on horde side i'm pretty sure, atleast ST.

winter aspen Apr 13, 2019, 5:25 PM

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LF is the highest

ionic fern Apr 13, 2019, 5:26 PM

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HORDE side.

winter aspen Apr 13, 2019, 5:26 PM

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Nobody cares about horde

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Bum side without meld

warm plinth Apr 13, 2019, 5:26 PM

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^ this tbh

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:26 PM

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lmao

winter aspen Apr 13, 2019, 5:26 PM

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Inferior for m+

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:27 PM

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yo i gotta screenshot that convo cause that beat my block record

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wew man

honest frigate Apr 13, 2019, 5:29 PM

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imagine horde having a bigger presence in m+ despite alliance getting better racials 🤔

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:29 PM

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heh

winter aspen Apr 13, 2019, 5:29 PM

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Because of raiding

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:30 PM

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also alliance tends not to pug after a certain key lvl

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which is actually really low in comparison

honest frigate Apr 13, 2019, 5:30 PM

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its ok when the meld nerfs come in gg alliance

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:30 PM

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well they at least have dwarves

honest frigate Apr 13, 2019, 5:30 PM

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did is pretty op though ngl

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but essences might equalize that

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:31 PM

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honestly its a good thing they have the better racials, might help balance the factions a bit

winter aspen Apr 13, 2019, 5:31 PM

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Meld nerf not coming

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Theyll just fix the reaping skip is my guess

warm plinth Apr 13, 2019, 5:31 PM

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Eh, if it hasn't happened by now, I doubt it will. Faction changing for MDI is one thing, faction changing on live realms is another

winter aspen Apr 13, 2019, 5:31 PM

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Death run meld and meld pulls are fine

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:32 PM

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well it did work for the pvp scene a couple of expansions ago when human's was the best

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every man i miss it

warm plinth Apr 13, 2019, 5:32 PM

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That wasn't people swapping for it though; people always were human if they were serious about PvP

honest frigate Apr 13, 2019, 5:32 PM

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they're going to nerf it for reaping is what's likely going to happen

warm plinth Apr 13, 2019, 5:32 PM

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Because EMFH was broken

winter aspen Apr 13, 2019, 5:32 PM

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Orc is about the same

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:32 PM

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nah some horde streamers and multiple glads did change

empty inlet Apr 13, 2019, 5:33 PM

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leech boys

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its confirmed

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:33 PM

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but that might be just a small part of the scene going back

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iirc leaderboards were all alliance

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at least in arena

warm plinth Apr 13, 2019, 5:34 PM

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Well, you had PvP gear back then as well so it was a lot easier to just swap over and gear up an opposite faction alt rq. Can't really do that as well now. And it's PvE that you'd be swapping for which has other concerns like your raid team (if applicable ofc)

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:34 PM

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a lot has happened since then though

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yeah i get that

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honestly a racial won't be the deciding factor for a faction change nowadays

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but a combination of little things might

winter aspen Apr 13, 2019, 5:35 PM

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Just drop the fucking factions already. I wanna play ally tauren

warm plinth Apr 13, 2019, 5:35 PM

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Nah, especially not with the faction balance where it is, as far as content being done.

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Unless you have a set group and everyone is faction changing, it'd be pointless

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Because then you wouldn't be able to find groups past +15 XD

tired cove Apr 13, 2019, 5:35 PM

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i'm 100% with you morthrang

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:35 PM

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that's fine

tired cove Apr 13, 2019, 5:35 PM

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they would actually make mor emoeny dropping factions

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:35 PM

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we need better balance though

tired cove Apr 13, 2019, 5:36 PM

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because the RP'ers would be doing all kinds of weird shit

warm plinth Apr 13, 2019, 5:36 PM

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We do

winter aspen Apr 13, 2019, 5:36 PM

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Horde clears new raid in 2 weeks for HoF

eager tartan Apr 13, 2019, 5:36 PM

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You can keep the factions in the lore while the players are free to do whatever

warm plinth Apr 13, 2019, 5:36 PM

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Tauren and gnome together at last 😏

winter aspen Apr 13, 2019, 5:36 PM

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Ally takes 3 months

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:36 PM

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we were talking about that a few weeks ago

winter aspen Apr 13, 2019, 5:36 PM

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Like how dumb is that Blizzard ?

eager tartan Apr 13, 2019, 5:36 PM

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At this point they've done way more lore bending in other areas

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:36 PM

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like factions are kinda stupid nowadays and are just there for story purposes

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you can adjust everything else to have no factions

umbral forge Apr 13, 2019, 5:37 PM

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Yeah

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:37 PM

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pvp, etc

umbral forge Apr 13, 2019, 5:37 PM

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I completely agree

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:37 PM

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see jettom remembers

umbral forge Apr 13, 2019, 5:37 PM

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My Horde characters would all sooner rally behind Velen than the entirety of the Horde, Baine and Saurfang included

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:38 PM

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😠

winter aspen Apr 13, 2019, 5:38 PM

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Imagine having a huge pool of players and no one sided realms

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:38 PM

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im team saurfang

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velen hasn't done shit, not my leader

umbral forge Apr 13, 2019, 5:38 PM

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I like Saurfang

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:38 PM

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(since legion)

eager tartan Apr 13, 2019, 5:38 PM

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Imagine being able to play dark iron dorf

warm plinth Apr 13, 2019, 5:38 PM

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I think it'd be neat if they did like a Sylvanas ruins the horde with her lack of honor (burning Teldrassil, using plague and killing her own troops, etc.), Baine and Saurfang decide to throw their lot in with Anduin, the rest of the Horde follows, no more faction difference.

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I mean they already got that shit in play lol

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Just finish it up

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:38 PM

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yeah

tired cove Apr 13, 2019, 5:39 PM

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Childe that's how other mmo's have done it perfect example is eq

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:39 PM

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they can just do small faction scuffles for the story

tired cove Apr 13, 2019, 5:39 PM

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dark elves HATED everyone, but you could still group with any race you wanted to

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:39 PM

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🤷

little grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:39 PM

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Lol never gonna happen but hey they say its good to be a dreamer

eager tartan Apr 13, 2019, 5:39 PM

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Dude there are Tauren paladins and the war chief is an undead

warm plinth Apr 13, 2019, 5:40 PM

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Yeah I played the PS2 version Majesco. Couldn't go to evil race's cities but you could still XP with them 😂

winter aspen Apr 13, 2019, 5:40 PM

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My guess is next xpack because they lack original content anyway

eager tartan Apr 13, 2019, 5:40 PM

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Everything is possible at this point

little grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:40 PM

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Nah

winter aspen Apr 13, 2019, 5:40 PM

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Its either that or reskinned lich king

tired cove Apr 13, 2019, 5:41 PM

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Ghash i remember when i was playing a human paladin and i was doing the 1.0 quest for the epic, and i became KOS in my own fucking city like wtf bro lol but thats what made EQ fun

little grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:41 PM

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Ion was just going on about how important Horde vs Alliance is to wow, yall must have missed that

tired cove Apr 13, 2019, 5:41 PM

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like you could become hated and beloved by any faction/race

winter aspen Apr 13, 2019, 5:41 PM

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Its not

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It was in classic

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:41 PM

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if ion said it...

winter aspen Apr 13, 2019, 5:41 PM

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And you can play classic very soon

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:41 PM

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he probably just said "important" then left it at that

warm plinth Apr 13, 2019, 5:42 PM

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lol, yeah. I never played the PC version but there are a lot of similarities from what I remember hearing.

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:43 PM

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📎 EQ000102.jpg

warm plinth Apr 13, 2019, 5:43 PM

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I didn't base what I said on anything real. Just what I think would be cool to see. That's why I said "I think it'd be neat if..."

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:43 PM

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there's my champ druid

warm plinth Apr 13, 2019, 5:43 PM

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I wanna know how the PS2 version somehow had better graphics than the current PC version does

little grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:44 PM

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Lol Sacred Destiny

warm plinth Apr 13, 2019, 5:44 PM

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Considering they shut the servers down to EQOA like 5 years ago

little grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:44 PM

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Cute name

tired cove Apr 13, 2019, 5:44 PM

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well eq on pc came out in 1999 and sony never upgrade the engine at all

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they just came out with new char models and that was it really

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:44 PM

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📎 unknown.png

tired cove Apr 13, 2019, 5:44 PM

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i think they changed a few spell looks

warm plinth Apr 13, 2019, 5:44 PM

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I guess if it's not broken, don't fix it huh

tired cove Apr 13, 2019, 5:44 PM

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pretty much

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i mean they are still doing the same thing 25 years later

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holy fuck eq is almost as old as i am i'm 32 and eq is 25

warm plinth Apr 13, 2019, 5:45 PM

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Ikr lol. Been around a while

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:46 PM

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yeah fuck looking at these screenshots i have too many

warm plinth Apr 13, 2019, 5:46 PM

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Isn't it free to play now?

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Or a version of it is anyway

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:47 PM

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shrug

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ah yes

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rathe council

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📎 unknown.png

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too many plane of time screenshots

warm plinth Apr 13, 2019, 5:51 PM

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That's a truly creative character name. I've never seen anyone with that name before.

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:51 PM

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are you serious

warm plinth Apr 13, 2019, 5:51 PM

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No.

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:51 PM

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hmmm

warm plinth Apr 13, 2019, 5:51 PM

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lol

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:51 PM

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🤔

#

i cant tell

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i wonder what happened to that guy

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btw that's a warrior

warm plinth Apr 13, 2019, 5:52 PM

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With that name you're supposed to be a Shadowknight smh

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:52 PM

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and warriors only tanked

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i think he has the Avatar of War blades but not sure

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they did threat on hit

warm plinth Apr 13, 2019, 5:55 PM

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In EQOA, you had two action bars that were swappable columns in the top right corner with iirc 5 abilities per column. And tanking was just standing there with 5 taunts on one of your bars and maybe stomp and your path quest buffs (which were HP/AC). Basically cycled path buffs and spammed taunts the entire time. Didn't even have to be facing the mob 😂

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I wasn't around but pretty sure alchemists and wizards were tanking raid bosses at the end; it was silly

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:58 PM

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alchemists werent a thing in the main EQ

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wizards were for sure

warm plinth Apr 13, 2019, 5:59 PM

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I know. That's the one thing I miss about EQOA. Alchemist was such a fun, unique class. I wish WoW had it.

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 5:59 PM

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but yeah tanking was like that

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just press taunt

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but having those blades, that were relevant for a lot of expansions after

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made it easier

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its funny how we say CoF being relevant a few content tiers after but i remember those blades being good for expansions after lmao

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they were that good

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think thunderfury

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i think there was a 2hander that did the same thing afterwards though

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off one of the zeks in plane of time

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iirc

warm plinth Apr 13, 2019, 6:02 PM

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Yeah, EQOA only had one expansion so it never got to that point really. And you had no way of monitoring performance like dps meters or anything either. Raid bosses were basically okay let's try to kill this, and if we can't, zerg

lusty grotto Apr 13, 2019, 6:03 PM

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http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6447

EverQuest :: ZAM

Blade of Carnage

Everquest Item Information for Blade of Carnage

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that was the one

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and then the 2 hander was blade of war