#protection
modern brook
sand egret
Considering no one has messed with it, kinda hard to say if its "good" or not
tranquil cedar
OK but that pin doesn't list specific pieces
tranquil cedar
ah OK in the icy veins
ty
I was reading the google doc, not used to icy veins articles being right 😛
sand egret
welcome to Prot
ionic fern
@wooden radish pop LS & Rallying Cry and then that. 
sand egret
where our info is something we care about
modern brook
???
sand egret
curious to know if that Azerite thingy is target capped
but I'm kinda mad they didn't showcase the other tank one
modern brook
which azerite thingy bladE?
sand egret
the one i've been jazzed on for months now 😃
there was a really dope shield one in dev that did work with IP
modern brook
Yeah it snot capped because that'll make u happier ;^)
sand egret
damage taken > turns into a shield for your party
but I dunno how far along that got. I loved the idea when I heard it
modern brook
Sounds sorta whatever to me
Like how jes gives verse to teamates - i couldnt care less
astral crystal
next week bois, skyhold falls again
sand egret
and b) you can prime it for a big damage moment
astral crystal
class changes in 8.2 ptr
sand egret
but like I said, I dunno how far that got. This was months ago
modern brook
More like glassceilinghold
sand egret
but i prefer that over "do the damages!"
astral crystal
sloot said it's mostly number changes
"if you hate you class now, you'll hate it in 8.2"
big yikes
astral crystal
honestly
inland mesa
who is ready for the underwater boss!
astral crystal
the new heart system makes it look like a balancing attempt for m+
sand egret
i wanna know how they deal with the Z axis problem
astral crystal
there's no z-axis problem
astral crystal
click on show more on the description
hit the timestamp for the underwater boss
inland mesa
I intervene in SoTS and it puts me at the bottom
astral crystal
they talk about it here
sand egret
sick
modern brook
I didnt look at the new heart system
But a generic boon to every class wont give Warrior DPS something over Rogue DPS 🤷
balancing m+ required kit changes
or class specific shit
sand egret
Ahhh @astral crystal I see, so the underwater part is more a traversal flair while the actual fight is still 2d
modern brook
did u at least take bounding stride?
weary veldt
its empty lol
astral crystal
and they mention travel speed is exactly the same as walk speed on land
MONKA
S
shit htat's not it
he said rogues and warrs are getting dumpstered
astral crystal
kind tinsel
god forbid the warrs be good
astral crystal
here it is
silk mortar
Havent been paying attention but why are they getting shit on
weary veldt
^
silk mortar
Anyone please explain 😛
weary veldt
"not viable"
lucid bough
Warrior gonna be destroyed number wise
chilly brook
Sloot is just salty because DH tank is ass
lucid bough
mechanically the same
chilly brook
@astral crystal did he go into detail on how we’re getting dumpstered?
lucid bough
""numerically stomped"
astral crystal
he just said it was a numbers thing
weary veldt
where is his information
lucid bough
its is confirmed
astral crystal
but sloot has played 8.2
lucid bough
if he says
astral crystal
i mean we can take it with a grain of salt
if prot will be 'bad' like it was in 8.0
then it's not a big deal
lucid bough
again
astral crystal
understand what i'm saying here bud
lucid bough
he said prot gonna be numberwise dumpstered, destroyed, stomped
those were the words
xD
chilly brook
If it does happen I won’t complain because we can say goodbye to the fotm bois
And in all honesty it becoming fotm is the only reason it’s getting nerfed if it truly is
Blizz didn’t give a crap for over half a year
Meanwhile blood DK can be fotm for a whole expansion 🙃
astral crystal
also remember the reason they do % tuning is so they can tune later on down the road, recall guardian druids from NH to ToS and how ironfur was 'nerfed'
in reality it was just scaled back to keep from spiraling out of control
sand egret
see: block
chilly brook
It only spirals out of control because of the insane ilvl bloat from tier to tier
modern brook
I mean ur acting like our numerical throughput is alright
chilly brook
Meh
astral crystal
prot dmg is inflated by reaping
astral crystal
by quite a bit
sand egret
a guy saying "dumpstered" who is also a guy who makes a living on his viewership....I don't take that very far
chilly brook
A guy who also obviously doesn’t like prot
shut summit
Hope u got ur 🐻 rdy
sand egret
to the same degree
shut summit
World is ending etc
astral crystal
based
chilly brook
Lol
lusty grotto
🗞 🐻
sand egret
haha that's a SS worth
chilly brook
I played prot in prepatch before we found out how stupid the aoe was
lusty grotto
ive played prot since vanilla
sand egret
Sense, you got to check out 8.2 then?
chilly brook
A change in 8.2 won’t change that if I come back
chilly brook
It’ll make me disappointed
Not want to reroll tho
Wtf
Preach just uploaded a video titled “How I Let You Down” 🤔
lucid bough
lolol
sand egret
I mean, even as a warrior I think our damage component is stupid, so I'm ok if its clipped overall
lusty grotto
nimchip: 9, reroll: 0
chilly brook
Please don’t be apologizing for a stupid ban you shouldn’t have gotten
lusty grotto
why shouldn't a streamer get banned?
chilly brook
I guess we should nerf prot pally DPS too
lusty grotto
that would be selective banning
modern brook
@shut summit i feel like ur memeing but if ur not im right so im ok w/ either outcome tbh
sand egret
who's Preach again?
chilly brook
I don’t think anyone should have been banned for what happened
lusty grotto
everyone gets banned, preach doesn't... how is that not selective banning
lets not start
fuck em, get banned
chilly brook
You were just trying to make an argument that I wasn’t
That’s all
Just clarifying my position
Not wanting to go through the whole thing again I know where you stand
lusty grotto
moving on
horray no more rerolls
inb4 0 nerfs
😦
"warriors get numerically decimated" Patch notes: new affix is not reaping
🤦
worthy dagger
We're still gonna be the kings of big pulls no matter what
chilly brook
Prot is officially dead bois
lusty grotto
F
modern brook
Frot
chilly brook
Sco was right in 8.0 and now Sloot is correct for 8.2
lusty grotto
at least you tried bull
modern brook
xd im a sub rogue im
lusty grotto
fu
modern brook
Master of disguise
lusty grotto
🗞
modern brook
😷
chilly brook
I’m going to be a master of disguise, I’m going to be a master of disguise 🎵
chilly brook
Lul
lusty grotto
wait
worthy dagger
Can haste go over 100%?
modern brook
@worthy dagger only if u have 10+ leech
worthy dagger
My leech is at 15%
modern brook
yeah u can get god tier haste
worthy dagger
Jk I dont do leech on my prot
jovial haven
i'm not gonna put a lot of thought into what sloot said, i mean this is mr. "everything is viable"
timid jay
vision of protection
spells/abilities chance to activate Avenging Wrath/Avatar/Fort Brew/Meta/Survival Instincts/Vamp blood for 8s. CD of <ability> reduced by 15% every proc. Interacts with azerite traits (ie: righteous conviction)
reduces cd of <ability> by 16.5%, increases vers by 419. When activating <ability>, immediately heal for 5% max hp.
lusty grotto
eh it doesnt matter
timid jay
Ready for warrior nerfs
lusty grotto
yeah that'd be broken as fuck
timid jay
You're getted the nerf bat
mortal brook
where these coming from
worthy dagger
Prot is dead, lets reroll
modern brook
Rerolling to Prot :^)
modern brook
Paladin i mean
jovial haven
i mean, tuning for next patch isn't a nerf persay, but will they over tune or under tune is the question
jade holly
Paladin gets fucked on fort
mental scarab
anyone have WA string for the diamond on opulence or how do we know when its empty?:P
chilly brook
Lmao damn dude
lusty grotto
chance to reset Avenging Wrath.... thats like Avatar broken
paladins do ridic damage too
chilly brook
So not only did Preach get banned but they blocked him from coming to the 8.2 stuff that everyone is talking about HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
mental scarab
oh i dont know what that cool things are
lusty grotto
i watch dbm, because my diamond never breaks
chilly brook
all of that over a leveling thing
lusty grotto
🤷
jovial haven
oh well, his problem lol
modern brook
I mean
The guy makes content for a game that everyone says is in its worst state
he sees a way to increase leveling
he sees profit
lusty grotto
did someone say leech?
jovial haven
oh i got ya chip
worthy dagger
dbm gives me cancer just like how leech does
timid jay
What's the leech cap?
jovial haven
modern brook
its not even a gamble
its like a plumber going to work and fixing pipes
its what they do
lusty grotto
i alredy got ai.... hold the fuck on
ebon hound
what do you guys think about my guilds' Rasta prog: https://clips.twitch.tv/EsteemedArtisticJaguarTTours
sand egret
That new ability mentions Survival Instincts. That just made me sad to my core.
chilly brook
@modern brook he didn’t really promote it though, he just used it so he could get the rest of the classes up to 120
¯_(ツ)_/¯
sand egret
On the plus side....the proc itself is longer than the actual button press.
modern brook
Dont @ me 😠
sand egret
hmmm....but now that I think about it....MI stacking could legit give you 100% uptime on a massive BoM like mastery boost 🤔 @outer dew 🐻
worthy dagger
so BoM is indeed the best trait
timber nest
for now
sick sentinel
It's the best trait when u pair it with leech
chilly brook
Leech is best stat for sure
sick sentinel
Who gives a fuck about what our guides say
chilly brook
Flying a year later yay 😑
chilly brook
Basically a year at this rate lol
sick sentinel
Listen
worthy dagger
wait its not september yet?
sick sentinel
It came Blizzard soon
It's ready when blizzard says it's ready
And ur going to like it
worthy dagger
so were gonna have azerite armor + neck artifact?
sand egret
yep
worthy dagger
why couldnt they do that in the first place?
sick sentinel
It seems like an cheaper glyph system
sick sentinel
This is also the same game were game devs think that if something design wise is bad it needs to be removed regardless of how the player base feelz
sand egret
it's like a build-a-spell system
get your base, get minors that affect it. If there are different minors, we could get into some interesting space
umbral forge
@timid jay the leech cap is 0%.
Do everything you can to hit 0%, beyond 0% leech might as well be intellect in how useless it is
sick sentinel
It's honestly just a major glypu with two minors
weary veldt
F
chilly brook
So literally Sloot doesn't even know what the nerfs are apparently
sick sentinel
?
chilly brook
"probably of the dps variety"
timid jay
But I'm closing in on 40% leech
chilly brook
dumb guy
timid jay
Dropped like 30ilvl for it
chilly brook
8.2 prot nerfs
sand egret
Cosmo, but what's your Speed at?
chilly brook
tell me why this new neck system just looks like crap
timid jay
0
exotic spoke
So, reading mmo champion - the new artifact shit doesn’t replace Azerite armor right? Like we still get traits from those three pieces it just supplements them?
timid jay
Speed is useless unless you use amr
sick sentinel
Because it's the glyph system
exotic spoke
Just wanted to make sure I wasn’t completely stupid thanks bladesong
umbral forge
@exotic spoke correct but you don't need a specific level on your neck to unlock traits on chest head & shoulders anymore.
exotic spoke
Yup. Thank god - losing things by getting new gear was stupid.
As an aside, who didn’t expect some sort of nerfs to our dps?
umbral forge
WAIT WE'RE BEING NERFED?!
chilly brook
hey at least Vengeance is supposedly getting buffs
lusty grotto
lmao cosmo
umbral forge
Time to reroll vengeance I guess
chilly brook
only took them 8 months to finally get around to making them viable
chilly brook
lul
sand egret
nope, it's basically this:
- You get to choose an Artifact ability that is sourced deterministically from various content
- You get the ability to augment said ability via minor nodes
- Azerite armor is unlocked, but Azerite Power is now how you unlock the minor nodes on your neck
@exotic spoke
silk mortar
Hey they were good throughout legipon
jovial haven
vengeance and bear buffs LuL
chilly brook
They were viable in Legion
open bluff
I don't think Grifd played Legion 
chilly brook
I did
umbral forge
What nerfs aerr we talking about
timid jay
Tbh
chilly brook
DH was great in M+
umbral forge
like what kind of nerfs are we gettin
lusty grotto
VDH was horrible at the start of legion though, but basically because people didn't know how to use them
exotic spoke
Nothing set in stone Jettom.
timid jay
If theres 1 company doing game balance its probably only blizzard that would be stupid enough to add that avatar trait/glyph whatever and not nerf anything else to keep warriors in line for m+
lusty grotto
they will probably nerf UF
chilly brook
I mean just buff every other tank
timid jay
That'd be my guess
outer dew
@sand egret MI?
lusty grotto
its the route i would take
sand egret
Masterful Instincits
chilly brook
But if you want tank DPS I mean honestly play Paladin not warrior
exotic spoke
Obviously they should nerf leech nim hip
lusty grotto
again buffing every other tank's damage would gut our utility
outer dew
Oh
sick sentinel
Ok, paly dps
sand egret
the Azerite ability Cosmo quoted. Really interesting implications for bears if that goes live
outer dew
Can you gimme deets what it does?
sick sentinel
Next ur gonna say bdks can mitage the good
chilly brook
@sick sentinel I was more referencing prot paladin AoE
exotic spoke
Burning embrace?
timid jay
Lower avatar CD
timid jay
cause 3 azerite shards to erupt from ground. Unknown damage
every 18-25s, azerite shard erupts from ground for 12s, granting X strength while within 8 yards of shard.```
```vision of protection
spells/abilities chance to activate Avenging Wrath/Avatar/Fort Brew/Meta/Survival Instincts/Vamp blood for 8s. CD of <ability> reduced by 15% every proc. Interacts with azerite traits (ie: righteous conviction)
reduces cd of <ability> by 16.5%, increases vers by 419. When activating <ability>, immediately heal for 5% max hp.```
```crucible of flame, 30s cd
21720 fire damage or heal ally for 21720, 5s of ancient flame buff. every cast doubles damage/healing, up to 2 times then resets. 2 charges (at rank 3)
ancient flame for 10, 150 crit and 64 leech, damage/healing engulf enemy for additional 10% damage/healing done over 4s```Just fucking remove avatar
lusty grotto
this is a good nerf
timid jay
reduce movement speed of enemies in 15 yards by 70%, reduce damage done by 10% for 8s. If it hits an enemy, your speed increases 50% for 8s
(NO ICD): enemies who melee you attack 8% slower, you gain 434 haste and 15% increased attack speed for 7s```
```null dynamo 2.3m cd
absorb 174235 magic damage for 10s instantly remove all harmful magic/curse/poison/disease effects
every 15s, absorb 34684 magic damage for 10s. When expires IMPLODES for shadow damage equal to amount absorbed, divided among enemies.```
```memory of lucid dreams 3m cd
mana regen rate by 100% and leech by 874 for 10s. sotr recharge reduced by 50%
spells/abilities have a chance to refund 50% of mana spent and heal for 10860. When refunded, gain 543 vers for 8s```@outer dew ^
timid jay
field at current location for 10s. stack of engine of haste, mastery, crit every .5s while standing in it. 10% reduced damage in it. When activated, stack count is increased by 100%
every 2s, 16 in one of haste/mastery/crit. at 10 stacks of one doubling the effects of all for 8s, stacks removed afterward. 20% chance to get an extra stack. 10% chance to get all three instead of just one```
```essence of infinity: passive MAJOR
next death prevented and regen to 10% max health with 85% DR for 10s or healed above 70%. 7.5m cd on proc
passive 466 vers, reduced by 50% for 7.5m if you die.```
```hardened obsidian essence, 45s cd
reduce all damage taken by 40% for 2s, 20% for 2s after that.
fall below 35% health, gain 7604 armor for 4s, 3802 for 4s after that. 2m icd```
```burning embrace: 2m cd
sacrifice 10% max health as fire damage to all enemies equal. Heal for 10% of max health for enemy hit, up to 50%
increase max health by 3430 every 4s, stacking up to 15 times. effect lost if below 35% health.```
```aegis of the deep. 1.5m cd
reduce damage taken by 1955 for 10s. heal for 2715 when damaged while active
113 vers for every enemy in 10 yards, up to 565. heal for 1,224 every 4s for each stack. while below 35% health, vers is doubled.```Remove avatar and give us execute back xD
timid jay
Those are all that I got info of
spells/abilities chance to activate Avenging Wrath/Avatar/Fort Brew/Meta/Survival Instincts/Vamp blood for 8s. CD of <ability> reduced by 15% every proc. Interacts with azerite traits (ie: righteous conviction)
reduces cd of <ability> by 16.5%, increases vers by 419. When activating <ability>, immediately heal for 5% max hp.```
Being the most relevant oneLmao
exotic spoke
Holy fuck that looks good
sick sentinel
IDGAF if it doesn't remove avatar, gives us death strike, grip and leech
chilly brook
Prot pally gonna be new FOTM with that last one
lusty grotto
wheres the trait that gives us Shroud?
sick sentinel
All this info is pointless
empty inlet
All info is useless
outer dew
Which one is it blade?
empty inlet
And prot is going be best tank next patch
sand egret
the last one linked
outer dew
That's a huge info dump
empty inlet
👌
timid jay
WOwhead is doing a write up atm
so you can probably get it in a more readable format there soon
outer dew
Problem
primal crypt
sand egret
biggest prob with MI is that it's cooldown is so fucking long that the 30 seconds after is kinda like meh. But if this shit procs MI for 8 seconds....you can keep up that 30 second buff
outer dew
Is our mastery isnt as good as warrior mastery
empty inlet
But you're stuck playing bear 😬
sick sentinel
But u can get dummy thicc when u shapeshift bear
empty inlet
🐻
lusty grotto
i said 🗞 /whack calm 🗞 /whack down
lusty grotto
8.2 shockwave summons a bunch of rolled up newspapers
empty inlet
Jumping ship to paladin in 8.2 :)
primal crypt
The biggest nerf comes from reaping going away
lusty grotto
🗞 🗞 🗞 🗞
primal crypt
Without reaping, that aoe comp is no longer bis
sick sentinel
Yamo stop please
lusty grotto
correct
sick sentinel
Don't be correct
sand egret
Newest affix: Blocking attacks causes you to take 5% total HP in damage
chilly brook
Look if you're playing bear and you don't have the werebear form you have no right to play it
sick sentinel
^
primal crypt
It's unfortunate, but once reaping is gone, rip clapping cheeks
lusty grotto
lmao blade you better shut your mouth when talking to your "bud"
sand egret
I'm Sense-certified now.
lusty grotto
nimchippy has werebear... but shes still 111
primal crypt
Maybe an affix will come where being a bear is really good
lusty grotto
i aint got time for that shit i gotta do keys
sand egret
50% damage boost per leg you walk on
primal crypt
Not bad
lusty grotto
no
lusty grotto
i 🗞 said 🗞 no
timid jay
Also
chilly brook
The lower your healers mana pool the higher your groups damage goes up to 50%
timid jay
If anyone plays bear
chilly brook
There's your bear affix
timid jay
theres talk of FR being off gcd
primal crypt
My pally is coming along nicely though
lusty grotto
oh nice
primal crypt
Nowhere near my warrior though :(
sick sentinel
Let's be real if having a lot of legs were a thing
Hunter and warlocks would be the best
sick sentinel
Nah fam nah
umbral forge
let's be real if druids tanked while in moonkin form they'd be the most popular tank
lusty grotto
dunno why the fuck they werent put back off of it
chilly brook
Everything they put on the GCD in 8.0 should have been back off in 8.1
sick sentinel
Nah fuck that and fuckk whatever ur going to say
Double down on the gcd
EVERYONE GETS FUCKED
sand egret
2 second GCDs
lusty grotto
hey you dont like to get fucked inr?
chilly brook
That moment when FFXIV has a longer GCD but has higher APM lmao
primal crypt
Where's @oblique garnet
sick sentinel
He dead
primal crypt
Where you is bro
chilly brook
Probably said he was typing because his face fell on his keyboard when he died of disappointment with the expansion
lusty grotto
i think the sleep monster finally got him
chilly brook
xD
lusty grotto
@oblique garnet should we call 911
hello? id like to report an incident in sweden
(i actually forget if hes from sweden or finland or whatever, sorry)
timid jay
@oblique garnet kuolit?
sand egret
that lil' bugger is gonna be so mad with all these tags when he wakes up haha
timid jay
hes definitely dead
outer dew
@oblique garnet need to be bear
lusty grotto
F
timid jay
maybe I should try more languages
timid jay
@chilly hemlock I need some french translations here
chilly hemlock
:waveboye:
undone sun
Omullete du fromage
timid jay
Can you ask @oblique garnet if hes dead in French?
chilly hemlock
why in french
lusty grotto
we're doing all languages
timid jay
Because he didnt respond in English, Swedish, Finnish or spannish I think it was
lusty grotto
yes spanish
timid jay
So french is next
chilly hemlock
@oblique garnet Est-ce que tu es mort ?
timid jay
Wow thats long
lusty grotto
yep that's french
timid jay
When's the spelling reform?
sand egret
now we need a german
chilly hemlock
@oblique garnet please tell me about leech on prot warrior
lusty grotto
@oblique garnet du hast?
timid jay
@oblique garnet sterben nicht
lusty grotto
hey, i tried
primal crypt
So how much ilvl do we drop for leech?
lusty grotto
oh man, my time to shine
timid jay
all of it
sand egret
32
lusty grotto
here it comes guys
outer dew
15 ilvl
lusty grotto
🚪 🏃
outer dew
you guys forgot about our lord and saviour
mortal brook
at least 10, no more than 20
outer dew
SIPHONING
sand egret
I think we should just start answering in increments of not 5
"How much ilvl do I drop?"
outer dew
yea
sand egret
"13
outer dew
it's worth 14
timid jay
I'd say 17
lusty grotto
82
undone sun
😡
sand egret
17 sounds right at least to hit the softcap
primal crypt
According to my calculations
timid jay
Did we trigger Thyme with 82
mortal brook
I saw a clip of a dude tanking a 16 at ilvl 282, so he musta dropped at least 120 ilvl for leech right?
lusty grotto
ok let me write this down
undone sun
Well?
mortal brook
40?
timid jay
I say its good
lusty grotto
napkin maths
outer dew
thyme, i've started dropping ilvl for leech on bear
outer dew
💪
timid jay
😅
outer dew
i stronk boi
undone sun
@outer dew don't talk to me
timid jay
Thyme is a good boye
primal crypt
I started dropping ilvl on my dk for leech
timid jay
Didnt ban me
lusty grotto
😄
timid jay
he should ban marok tho
empty inlet
Did you get 3 marrowblood too
sacred roost
Sorry to ask, but what's the optimal raid setup for traits, outside of 1 in DC?
oblique garnet
Que
outer dew
pfft
outer dew
@undone sun bby, come back . I love you
primal crypt
@sacred roost icy veins has the best layout for us in raid scenarios
empty inlet
🐭
timid jay
@oblique garnet sterben nicht
oblique garnet
Da
undone sun
😭
sacred roost
it lists most of them, is it any combination of them, and which do you want multiples of?
primal crypt
Generally we enjoy BFI AND IF
primal crypt
Hey
timid jay
I wouldnt trust icy veins
modern brook
Its like not even funny
primal crypt
No trolling real people
lusty grotto
any combo is good, the higher in the list the better
sacred roost
so DC, then 3 BFI and 2 IF?
timid jay
I wouldnt even trust myself
modern brook
please stop with the leech shit
timid jay
@ionic fern would disagree
lusty grotto
yeah but you can't realistically get 3 BFI and 2 IF
timid jay
and hes orange
ionic fern
Wat
timid jay
yes
ionic fern
DIsagree with what?
timid jay
orange
undone sun
orange
timid jay
mango orange
lusty grotto
cosmo are you color blind
timid jay
real colour
primal crypt
@sacred roost you could even slip in a BoM
lusty grotto
wait i'm not gonna fall for this one
i know im getting baited
must resist
ok i can't, its yellow
timid jay
undone sun
Cosmo is one big baiter
timid jay
Stormforged are mangoes
primal crypt
@sacred roost it'll mainly depend on what you have available really
lusty grotto
😢
astral crystal
is skyhold falling yet?
undone sun
I do agree they're mango color, but more yellow orange than orange @timid jay
undone sun
Abt we rose
lusty grotto
excuse me, how else would we crash in azsuna then?
sacred roost
so at least 1 DC, then some combination of BFI, BoM, and or IF
lusty grotto
lmao
lusty grotto
fuck sake
undone sun
🗞
empty inlet
Isn't there a pin for traits
outer dew
there is
primal crypt
@sacred roost correct
empty inlet
That shows defensive value
oblique garnet
warrior ded now?
empty inlet
Just read that
timid jay
Yes
outer dew
yes
lusty grotto
yes warrior ded
lusty grotto
this instant
undone sun
👏
oblique garnet
im already ahead
timid jay
faster
oblique garnet
already got my bear at 415
primal crypt
@sacred roost sorry, these guys on full troll mode right now
lusty grotto
lol
oblique garnet
oblique garnet
😦
oblique garnet
xDD
timid jay
😡
empty inlet
Insane bear
ionic fern
@sacred roost for raids DC/TC/BfI/RF are all good when it comes to DPS.
lusty grotto
primal crypt
Because we multiclass
lusty grotto
i havent leveled any
chipadin only exception but that's because chipadin is holy and holy only
oblique garnet
wait so
mortal brook
world pvp. they won 40v1s in WoD and 15v1s in Legion and now they are sad sad wifflebats but i remember the good bear times D:
oblique garnet
where did you find these buffs?
lusty grotto
inside info
lusty grotto
cosmo is a secret blizzard employee
mortal brook
we dont know
lusty grotto
lol we dont know yet
empty inlet
Bad enough to reroll paladin for m+ :)
oblique garnet
Is it time to go the crit build?
primal crypt
Jesus.
outer dew
bad enough to reroll bear
oblique garnet
Stacking 3x Callous : )
outer dew
:DDDD
lusty grotto
🗞
maiden ravine
A single active ability isn't gonna make bear amazing haha
unless Thrash just melts mobs
timid jay
@undone sun how was bear in ToS?
lusty grotto
see, you baited someone
undone sun
Good
oblique garnet
bear does alot of damage
undone sun
Above average
oblique garnet
its literally the 2nd highest tank on damage
outer dew
mastery = more hp
lusty grotto
lmao
undone sun
Probably just under monk tbh
timid jay
But was it fun
maiden ravine
it's higher damage, not really fun damage
empty inlet
Now right now
outer dew
suicide bomb with the increased hp?
undone sun
Subjective
primal crypt
lusty grotto
lul
timid jay
source
lusty grotto
rip
undone sun
Hmmmm
maiden ravine
So, everyone hates trash and that's why m+ engagement is WAY down, and they're gonna make trash harder
lusty grotto
why do people hate trash
outer dew
so you're saying
I have to pull even more trash
???
i feel like i have to full 60% of the dungeon already
timid jay
I hate people that are trash
maiden ravine
trash is boring and too hard compared to bosses
timid jay
does that count?
outer dew
and now I gotta pull more?
lusty grotto
its almost like.... ghuun 2.0
undone sun
I hate people
mortal brook
Teeming % now baseline. enjoy you anaimals
empty inlet
Stealth nerf to rogue
outer dew
i'll
empty inlet
Dont need shroud anymore:)
outer dew
straight up
lusty grotto
lmao steve
undone sun
@outer dew do it
primal crypt
Oh, that was from sloot
outer dew
the amount of trash you need for teeming
undone sun
Join the club
primal crypt
After his talk with whoever at blizz
oblique garnet
same
primal crypt
So incoming dumbass trash buffs
lusty grotto
👀
maiden ravine
can't use it back to back
lusty grotto
shroud getting nerfed
primal crypt
Good luck on fort week lmao
outer dew
@undone sun you quit wow?
lusty grotto
👀
outer dew
should i join in the quit train?
outer dew
hmm
maybe that is the play thyme
i was just going about gearing my pala
and going wtf
am i doing
maiden ravine
I'm glad I don't like BfA dungeons. I've lost over 100lbs since BFA came out cause I'm not playing. 😄
naive panther
Dungeons already have too much trash. And last way too long.
naive panther
Lol maw of souls
maiden ravine
we're getting one in 8.3
chilly brook
I mean who hasn't let their sub lapse is the real question
maiden ravine
The last 4 bosses of Mechagon has no trash
lusty grotto
i havent
empty inlet
We need more trash in raid too
daring marlin
I haven’t @chilly brook
empty inlet
Perfer the one like zul
primal crypt
I haven't
daring marlin
hellyeahbrother
lusty grotto
i dont understand the trash logic though
daring marlin
zul trash everywhere
outer dew
I want it to be like vanilla wow
daring marlin
for every boss
outer dew
where you have to reclear trash
primal crypt
Im barely holding on
daring marlin
yeah that too
daring marlin
suppression rooms are fun
primal crypt
But that dungeon trash talk
daring marlin
We need those back
primal crypt
Is disgusting
daring marlin
totally
lusty grotto
i mean, i like that mini bosses would give more %
primal crypt
Making all the caster mobs worth nothing to force you to pull the big mini bosses
primal crypt
Windseeker heldis is going to decimate groups lmao
lusty grotto
lmao
primal crypt
The storm ele
lusty grotto
runecarver
maiden ravine
I'm just flabbergasted that Blizzard is doubling down on trash
primal crypt
People dont even know his mechanics
maiden ravine
Y'all acting like people ran Shrine willingly as it was.
daring marlin
he’s a menace
outer dew
i haven't pulled an enforcer
primal crypt
And enough threat to kite
lusty grotto
😐
lusty grotto
zul
primal crypt
Zul is stationary mob
outer dew
they gonna buff flame boy
primal crypt
LOLOLOL
outer dew
in the center of KR
lusty grotto
lmao
primal crypt
Siege of Boralus
outer dew
worth 2%
primal crypt
No fucking thanks
lusty grotto
well unless they nerf spotters...
civic hemlock
Hey guys, could u explain me why overwhelming power is pick by many tops wars in rio ? This trait shoud be very bad as tank because of the regular damage
lusty grotto
SoB would be np
primal crypt
@civic hemlock has an internal cooldown
lusty grotto
icd on stack drops @civic hemlock
outer dew
which it drops stacks
primal crypt
It cant just fall off right away
civic hemlock
wtf ?
primal crypt
Yup
civic hemlock
oh 😮
daring marlin
One boss dungeon
primal crypt
Starting from the monkeys
lusty grotto
fucking bananas
primal crypt
Monkeys can full wipe, spotters can clip you and full wipe
You can overpull by accident because someone was tired
lusty grotto
lmao
primal crypt
Invaders poison your face so hard and group is getting sniped in the ass
empty inlet
Monkies is hard because the healing debuff
primal crypt
Healer is autistic screeching
empty inlet
Its actually so hard to tank those mobs
lusty grotto
✅
lusty grotto
yea
primal crypt
He has so much health that dps dont target him
Thinks it's a dps loss
Then they bolster him 4 times at minimum
Healer is asking why your face is getting ripped off
lusty grotto
😦
primal crypt
Asks you to pop defensives, but you're down and out because the invader poison needed some mitigation
lusty grotto
when did i fucking run SoB
chilly brook
Y I K E S
lusty grotto
i cant remember if i ran it this week
maiden ravine
oh gosh, that Sloot recap of M+ changes
primal crypt
Try this week
maiden ravine
I'm scared.
primal crypt
With explosives too
lusty grotto
i mean cause it all seems so familiar
frozen remnant
??
maiden ravine
And they're going to restrict loot sources in 9.0?
lusty grotto
uhhh... what does that mean?
maiden ravine
Blizzard believes there are too many loot sources in the game and likely change that for 9.0.
vocal skiff
did they really say they were going to buff trash
outer dew
in oreder to unlock m+
maiden ravine
Not buff it, make you have to kill more
Blizzard feels that you don't kill enough trash on most dungeons. There will be a fairly large trash % rebalance coming in 8.2 to address this.
Possibly giving mini-bosses give a lot of %, because now they are mostly skipped because they are not efficient to kill.
lusty grotto
no, they said that there will be a completion % change
the whole "kill more" thing is not exactly what it says there
but hey its blizzard
primal crypt
You thought it was hard to find a tank for keys before
Lol
Fucking gems now
Straight diamonds
lusty grotto
lmao
undone sun
👏
primal crypt
Tanking in bfa is, imo, the most demanding
outer dew
???
lusty grotto
shine bright like a diamond!
outer dew
explain
primal crypt
The way the trash is, and the way some of these bosses hit
So think of it like this
A person new to tanking wants to try it out
Goes into dungeon
Zero clue about mitigation, let alone dungeon mechanics
Somehow starts grinding it out
lusty grotto
i mean lets be clear... all of this shit is subject to change
outer dew
iin all honesty
primal crypt
Has to learn which mob is going to one shot him and isnt quite sure what melee heavy is
outer dew
you could get away without pressing mit
primal crypt
Etc etc
outer dew
in a normal/heroic
lusty grotto
dont they watch glicks/nerf/lepan for that tho yamo?
primal crypt
Ugh
viral axle
i really hope the numerical nerfs are only for our dmg
primal crypt
But nerf and lepan
lusty grotto
did you see lepan's guide lol
primal crypt
Stop.
lusty grotto
hahahah
primal crypt
Lets just stop.
outer dew
speaks
and nerf to our tankiness is fine
esp if blood dk nerfs was a guideline for anything
primal crypt
But yeah, I can feel the difference going into these 20+ keys
lusty grotto
K values is our defensive nerf
outer dew
lol
primal crypt
Not planning for the dmg incoming will get you one shot xD
primal crypt
...
lusty grotto
thyme do your thing
outer dew
wdym?
lusty grotto
🗞 tofu
lusty grotto
bad bear
lusty grotto
😃
primal crypt
Thats why you need to roll paladin :)
lusty grotto
-_-
outer dew
i really wish i could roll a zanadalri pala
i'd like to meme on horde with a couple peeps
lusty grotto
but rogue getting nerfed