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brave mauve
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Their mastery works very well with protwarr's damage intake (until very recently), where we used to just be at our natural state of being at 50% hp no matter what, shaman could shine

dull tinsel
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what dps should i be pulling roughly in m+

chilly brook
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We don’t typically spike and the hots do well with the chip damage

brave mauve
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a billion

chilly brook
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Depends

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What’s your ilvl

dull tinsel
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410 as protr

chilly brook
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How big are your pulls

dull tinsel
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prot**

exotic spoke
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Reck it depends on the group, the key, the affixes, and your pulls

chilly brook
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What traits do you have

brave mauve
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he drops 500mg percs

chilly brook
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Etc.

dull tinsel
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3x bastion 2x deafening 1x TC

exotic spoke
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It is so vague it’s hard to say.

dull tinsel
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yeah thats why i said roughly

exotic spoke
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What keys?

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Leave

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Level*

dull tinsel
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ok just say atal for example

exotic spoke
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What level?

brave mauve
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With similar ilvl and azerite to you, I do 19k on brutally failed keys, 23k on typical keys, and 28k on "Wow, holy shit, that went well" keys

chilly brook
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Over 20k is what you should be doing

brave mauve
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So I'd say around 20k is the goal

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But I also only do like 14's

dull tinsel
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yeah im not doing anything higher than a 15 atm

chilly brook
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I was doing ~16k with one BoM and one DC at 387 before I just gave up on the game

dull tinsel
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i was dpsing until recently so i was just wondering a rough estimate of what dps you guys pull per run

exotic spoke
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20k sounds about right but it will depend on the key level, group makeup, etc

Personally I’d find a way to get two IFs. Drop tc and one DC

dull tinsel
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IF being iron fortress?

exotic spoke
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Yes

dull tinsel
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im just going by what azerites i have atm as i still DPS in raids

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need the other 2 sets for deeps 😛

brave mauve
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I mean, IF is good, but what has he said that makes you feel like going IF is an appropriate suggestion?

exotic spoke
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The extra shield block is nice. And means you can do bigger pulls. Bigger pulls means more dps

dull tinsel
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nothing @brave mauve

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i never said i need to reforge right now :p

brave mauve
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Was asking Riki why he suggested it, not you

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Just a weird recommendation at a 15 level

thorn dawn
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Would you go 3x IF or 2x IF and 1 BfI?

exotic spoke
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What are your other traits tinywrath

brave mauve
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At 15 I'd probably snipe bloodsport before IF. IF comes into its own at a slightly higher key level

thorn dawn
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BS DC BoM

fresh valley
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so you're just an arm chair prot tank huh

brave mauve
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ye

exotic spoke
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@brave mauve typically for people asking they are pushing high keys for them. So the extra survivability adds more than try to cheese out their dps and don’t need the survivability

The standard 3 BoM 1 DC and 2 IF works really well

brave mauve
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Fair enough

thorny adder
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Soo quick question, i got a lot of gear with socket and pieces with +10 ilvls without socket. example 400 boots with socket, or 410 boots without. QUestion, ilvl or more total secondary stats??

chilly brook
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....

brave mauve
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I just hang at 14-16 running guildie alts because I hate this game, but I don't take any meaningful damage at all with triple bom and triple DC. Hell I run Siphoning at this point just so when nimchip eventually looks me up he'll be upset by it

chilly brook
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More total stats period

fresh valley
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ilvl

ionic fern
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1)Triple BoM/Triple DC i approve
2)Siphoning...please no.

thorn dawn
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My options are fairly limited with the gear I have. I have SS, another BS/DC, RF, and TC

chilly brook
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But no a socket is most likely not worth 10 ilvl on armor

exotic spoke
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I mean, then you’re not really pushing high keys in all fairness epyawn.

ionic fern
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You can also run triple BoM triple DC at higher keys tho.

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I'm doing it in 20-22 keys.

exotic spoke
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I understand the thought process behind triple BoM triple dc. But I wouldn’t recommend it for people learning / just swapping

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But could you do bigger pulls if you want slightly more defensive or have you already maxed out your pull size mwahi?

ionic fern
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The defensive value of the traits is minimal enough that it doesn't really affect my pull sizes.

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You survive via good play regardless of your trait choices.

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Only time i can warrant going more defensive traits would be ML Tyrannical on two last bosses on HIGH keys.

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Even then you can just make your healer spam-heal you and be fine with bom/dc.

warm plinth
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Wouldn't it be nice if trait choices actually had a significant impact (besides 1st DC)?

exotic spoke
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But for people asking for guidance I think the safer, and still very solid, trait selection is better usually

dull tinsel
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Well , im running offensive traits and i dont feel squishy, that be said i dont run 20+ keys so i cant say the difference in margin

chilly brook
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Wouldn’t it be nice if we had the old DC again?

exotic spoke
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Yes griff

warm plinth
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Why do you bring up nostalgic times Griff

chilly brook
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Because

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I miss that one aspect of the class

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And I’m playing stardew valley on my switch

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So I’m feeling wholesome

warm plinth
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I want a Switch so I can play Dark Souls on the toilet. That's the dream.

chilly brook
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Can confirm it’s worth for that reason

brave mauve
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Wouldn’t it be nice if we had the old DC again?

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Strange way of saying warbringer but ok

warm plinth
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Lol

chilly brook
steel mauve
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SDV is such a great game, logged so many hours on pc for it, made better by mods though so cant buy it for the switch, even though i got darkest dungeon for it

lusty grotto
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i think you guys misspelled Reflective Plating

warm plinth
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^^^^^^^

lusty grotto
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but i'll accept pre-nerf warbringer

warm plinth
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I'll take that before the others mentioned.

brave mauve
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make warbringer+safeguard great again

exotic spoke
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Oh nims right

brave mauve
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hard disagree

exotic spoke
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What about mannoroths though?

chilly brook
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I’ll take execute on prot before everything else

lusty grotto
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fuck mannoroth

exotic spoke
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Wow.... that’s hurtful

lusty grotto
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let it die

brave mauve
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no DR stun that can be prompted by intercepting a warlock pet or melee to interrupt every single cast anything ever tries to do > reflecting casts you couldn't stop

lusty grotto
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pre-nerf warbringer

brave mauve
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Except for shade of medivh reflect, which was sexual

lusty grotto
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because post-nerf warbringer was MEH

brave mauve
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Like, medivh was pornography

exotic spoke
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Why don’t you like manacles?

Prenerf warbrjnger would be tits

lusty grotto
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i used manacles, but we don't need them

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was actually my very first leggo

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got it on a random dungeon

brave mauve
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Unpopular opinion: bloodsport is basically mannoroth's, just slightly different

steel mauve
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Mannoroths was like 70-80% overhealing on a ton of fights

lusty grotto
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jesus christ

exotic spoke
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I got them literally last out of genetics and prot.

I agree we don’t need them but still

brave mauve
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which works because nimchip doesn't like BS either

lusty grotto
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6 degrees of Leech

exotic spoke
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Lol

lusty grotto
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im actually using 1 BS

brave mauve
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I was unironically at my most comfortable with 2 BS, 1 DC, 3 BoM 😦

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Just invincible at the content I do

lusty grotto
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im doing 3 BoM 1 DC 1 IF 1 BS

brave mauve
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nice

lusty grotto
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and have been for a while actually

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which reminds me that i should probably use my 5k residuum

brave mauve
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makes sense

lusty grotto
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and roll for whatever else

fresh valley
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i'm at 3 BoM, 1DC, 1BS, 1 TC

exotic spoke
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I need 100 more residuum to buy a specific piece

lusty grotto
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yup i should roll shoulders

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try to get that filthy leech out

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yuck

brave mauve
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do you get physically violent every time you press IP and see those ticks of healing on you for 400-600 at a time?

lusty grotto
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yes

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it doesn't use rage, it generates it

brave mauve
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like, other dudes are dropping ilvl for leech. you're over here dropping 50 ilvl just to get rid of your 425 socketed leech pieces

lusty grotto
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uhh

brave mauve
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it's ok baby

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i understand

lusty grotto
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calm your tits, that's not what's happening

brave mauve
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shhhhh it's all right

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you're safe here

lusty grotto
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you made me recheck my gear

ornate wagon
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finally got rezan's eye, 405

lusty grotto
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i actually have 0 tertiaries

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i do have some sockets though

sick sentinel
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Nice @ornate wagon

ornate wagon
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414 ilvl now

sick sentinel
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Now be a big boy and do +30 on time

ornate wagon
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oh god lol

brave mauve
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i believe in u

ornate wagon
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i dont

brave mauve
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that's ok

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i do

ornate wagon
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my highest is a 15 WM and FH

warm plinth
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Since when does IP trigger leech?

ornate wagon
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bloodsport

chilly brook
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Alright so the grandpa in Stardew Valley is an asshole

brave mauve
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mannorothsport

sick sentinel
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Calling that trait mannoroth is an insult to that leggo

pine warren
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hello, also use the pawn to protect?

brave mauve
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My happiest moments in legion were when I was blessed with a competent enough healer that I could take those off, so I disagree

analog swift
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Most overrated leggo ever

warm plinth
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No I mean, he said pressing IP shows healing on screen. Or did I misunderstand? Pressing IP with bloodsport grants leech, not healing.

sick sentinel
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Because unlike mannnys hotdogs, BS doesn't heal u for ludicrous amount

analog swift
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If you weren’t rocking pants + gloves and/or sephuz you were a bitch

brave mauve
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instead I dealt the entirety of Legion with a disc priest who'd OOM herself in 30 seconds with 95% overheal

chilly brook
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Bruh

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Gloves and belt

warm plinth
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Never mind. I get it.

analog swift
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I meant belt

brave mauve
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gloves and belt were my bois

analog swift
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Pants were for like two fights

warm plinth
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I just can't think in the morning.

brave mauve
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Pants for medivhhhhhh

sick sentinel
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Cowards all of u

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Gloves, ring

chilly brook
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FUUUUUUU

sick sentinel
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Figure out which ring

analog swift
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The talent ring was booty

brave mauve
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sephuz was cool for a couple pulls, but generally nah

warm plinth
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I had gloves and TWF for most of the expansion.

chilly brook
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YOU REMINDED ME ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO SWAP GEAR IN M+

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REEEEEEEEEE

sick sentinel
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Lol

analog swift
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Pros swap our sephuz when it was on cd

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Then plop those gloves on

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Alternate

warm plinth
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I didn't have any other good ones until I could specifically buy them heh.

brave mauve
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Arms with Sephuz was sleeper. Everyone just kept helm and belt for pulls, but sephuz and belt were the real-real

sick sentinel
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Hey man, swapping gear is only for the most elite of gamer girls

analog swift
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Tbh I’m ok not being able to gear swap

chilly brook
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Stahhhhpp

analog swift
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I just wish I had more gear to swap

chilly brook
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I’m not

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We should have the option

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If you don’t want to then fine

sick sentinel
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Just like how doing mythic raiding is the equivalent of the 1% running and ruining how wow works

chilly brook
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But don’t handicap everyone else

analog swift
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I think this has been debated before (between us) but I do enjoy the idea of having to pick A B or C instead of D all of the above

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It wasn’t handicapping it was easier to swap gear

brave mauve
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The problem with ruining gear swapping is that some classes are literally default removed from high end content.

analog swift
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Harder to determine what set you needed for an entire dungeon

sick sentinel
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Whaaaaa

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Nooo

chilly brook
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I mean no one was stopping you from taking the overall pick for the dungeon in legion.......

brave mauve
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Some are simply too heavily influenced into one direction or another by their traits or trinkets. Others aren't punished at all

warm plinth
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Just wait INR. Coming soon - Mythic Raiding Invitational.

sick sentinel
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Wow

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Talk about making a Dry Canyon from that statement

chilly brook
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Your argument is revolving around the idea that you can’t make that decision for yourself and the devs have to hard lock you into the choice in order for that choice to be your choice

analog swift
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@chilly brook of course not but I find it more interesting to watch the mdi and high level key pushers to have to figure out the ideal set rather the. Just picking all of them

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@chilly brook that’s not true.

chilly brook
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It basically is

analog swift
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It’s not that the decision was too hard it was that it was too easy

brave mauve
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"ideal set" just turns into everyone running secondary proc trinkets because anything else isn't getting enough use outside of specific pull ideas

analog swift
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Hm should I go magic damage or physical damage for motherlode? Oh all of the above? I’ll just swap.

Instead now you have to think ok if we skip this it’s mainly physical damage and I should do this

chilly brook
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Is the world first race less interesting because they can swap out players and gear sets?

analog swift
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They can do that mid fight?

brave mauve
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It can't possibly be less interesting

sick sentinel
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The only thing i liked about the gear swapping being removed wasn't the 300 pieces of gear in my bag

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But that's a personal issue of my own

brave mauve
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BUT I STILL HAVE 300 PIECES OF GEAR IN MY BAG

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IT DID NOTHING

sick sentinel
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Because I like having my bags as empty as possible

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I have at most 4 pieces on my druid

brave mauve
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DRUID ISN'T A REAL CLASS

sick sentinel
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And my warrior, the fuck am I going to be carrying realistically

warm plinth
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Still goes back to player mentality that everything that isn't the best is shit. So you have gear swapping, the average person sees the dudes pushing +30s swapping x trinket for y fight. And now that average person feels it necessary to swap to that trinket on that fight in his weekly +10.

analog swift
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Now? Nothing really. But for motherlode for example I would definitely swap gear for the last two bosses

warm plinth
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Otherwise they're shit

brave mauve
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Yeah but it's still like that either way

sick sentinel
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Here's the thing, that's their fault

analog swift
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Eh idk that’s what Reddit came up with but I agree with blizzard that your decisions should be meaningful

sick sentinel
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Not a top player

warm plinth
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It is.

brave mauve
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I'm just sucking my thumb in a 12 the other day and actually had someone ask why I don't play opulence trinket, because radsangerygf does

chilly brook
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I mean swapping gear sets was meaningful lmao

warm plinth
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I'm not saying it's right. I'm saying that mentality causes dumb changes like that to be made.

ornate wagon
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Elemental Whirl or Unstable flames?

sick sentinel
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Flames

analog swift
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Saying I want aoe single target defensive for magic and physical is picking all the choices

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Not making a meaningful choice

chilly brook
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I found more meaning in my decisions being able to swap per situation than not being able to

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Picking all the choices doesn’t make them less meaningful.....

analog swift
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It means you never make a choice

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Because you get everything

chilly brook
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Except you could

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You either do or you don’t

analog swift
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Obviously you could

chilly brook
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Just like you either optimize your gear for the dungeon or you don’t

sick sentinel
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Let's be real, being able to do something and having it removed never feels good regardless of where u land

chilly brook
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^^^^^^

brave mauve
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you will never have a 102% mastery set with boots, sephuz, 6 +speed pieces, and the sword from stratholme again

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why even live

sick sentinel
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People(myself included) want reforge back

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Even if it was very basic af

analog swift
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@chilly brook should you be able to change talents in a dungeon?

chilly brook
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And you can swap talents in a dungeon it’s just not convenient

analog swift
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Don’t dodge the question man cmon

chilly brook
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But you can....

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And I don’t have an issue with how its done

brave mauve
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with a warlock and a patient group, gear and talents can be whatever you want them to be

analog swift
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Why shouldn’t you be able to swap inside then?

brave mauve
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so if we can do it anyway without breaking the rules, fuck it, let us do it

chilly brook
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I mean why shouldn’t we be able to

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You’re right

sick sentinel
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Because we are the 1%

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That's why

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Stop being hardcore

analog swift
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Ok let’s try again

sick sentinel
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Says blizzard

brave mauve
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1% parsers unite

analog swift
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Griff give me an example of a meaningful choice you made irl

chilly brook
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Let the casuals be casual and let those who see value in swapping whatever they want mid dungeon do so

sick sentinel
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No

brave mauve
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Griff married me

chilly brook
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^

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It was a trap

brave mauve
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u were

sick sentinel
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U can't be blue sheep because ur bigger

chilly brook
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He fooled me in the club

sick sentinel
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We all have to be white sheep

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And that's the law

analog swift
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Nah go ahead give me one. You can fudge details or whatever for anon

chilly brook
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Signed my life away

analog swift
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Military?

chilly brook
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At one point before a heart thing yea

sand egret
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🤔

analog swift
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Why did you join the military

chilly brook
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Because it was what I thought I wanted

brave mauve
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awww yeah snagged me a soldia boi get me that juicy tricare

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i'll be your dependa

analog swift
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Ok weird example most say college or some shit

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Point I was going to make was imagine if you got all the benefits of the military but no negatives

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That’s not a meaningful decision all pros zero cons

brave mauve
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Griff should have tapped and let me in the ring. I make some meaty decisions. I'm daydrunk a half hour before a job interview, shitposting here

ornate wagon
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best racial for prot warriors? (horde)

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im mag'har currently, but is there a better choice

chilly brook
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I mean I think you’re confusing consequential choices with meaningful choices

analog swift
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A choice without consequence isn’t meaningful /shrug

chilly brook
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By definition you’d be wrong 🙃

brave mauve
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@ornate wagon, Blood Elf, HMT, or Tauren are generally gonna treat you the best. I prefer HMT because I like to party

chilly brook
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Was it worthwhile to swap gear? If the answer was yes then it was meaningful by definition

full monolith
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which would u take? on my other pieces i got 2x BoM, 2x DC.
I kinda prefer the one with Unstable Flames&Gemhide... mainly doing m+

brave mauve
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I'd take DC, BoM, Blood Siphon/Whirl, MoG one in a heartbeat if you're doing M+.

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If that MoG were an Impassive Visage, it'd basically be perfect

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Though 1xMoG is still really comfy to have

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Oh shit, I read it wrong, BoM and DC are on same row, nevermind

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(I'm still drunk)

full monolith
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😄 😄 if i could take BoM+DC i d take it right away, but that is why ia m asking

brave mauve
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I'd still take the left one, though

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IF is preferred over BfI for M+, since it's always right there and working the instant you get the pull going while you may still be trying to get threat with TC and haven't SS'd yet.

lime mantle
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The million dollar question:
Engineer hat vs
Bom+DC+Earthlink/Shimmeringheaven/Globules+Resounding protection.
p. sure the hat is better.

full monolith
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thanks for the input @brave mauve
I ll stick with the left one

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I would go with BoM+DC coz you really want the 3x BoM imo

lime mantle
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Yeah as I wrote "the hat is better" i was like

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"I wonder how much +1800 mastery is

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Now I'm looking at 60% crit block

brave mauve
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Danie, if you're running M+, getting 3xBoM is incredibly important. Not just for that crit block (which is great), but because Mastery also grants you AP. So you hit things harder, too. It's a one-two punch to keep you alive and make them dead. It's bonkers

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If you're in raid, it's a lot more flexible and you can really do whatever the hell you want

lime mantle
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🤔

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I mean I did go engineering to quickly boost my ilvl azerite wise

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And I randomly got 2 bis pieces atm (Seabrawler's hat and krakenshell and divine purification) I guess I can drop engineer for inscription or alchemy

brave mauve
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Eng goggles are really great for raid, at least. The second ring trait RNG is strong, and the cauterizer is BiS on conclave

lime mantle
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I am dark iron 😂

brave mauve
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And, if you're really in a pinch (which it seems like you're not), BOMB with lucky procs is still catastrophically good on big pulls

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Did a triple pull in ML a few weeks back and didn't notice Reaping had just proc'd while I was midcharge. Got like 4 BOMB procs in a row and just deleted everything. We still failed the key because we were weighed down by excessive chromosomes in a shroud skip, but whatever

lime mantle
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🤔

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I might try it at some point

brave mauve
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Feast or famine, though. When it sucks, it sucks.

naive panther
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I just went back to engineer helm but my helm was bom and filthy.

zinc rose
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crystaline carapace or Blood Siphon ? I Cant decide ...

brave mauve
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I like Blood Siphon but the argument about leech is both loud, violent, and obnoxious.

zinc rose
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yeah i know thats why i cant decide ^^

fallen jetty
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It's not a friendly conversation certainly

brave mauve
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There's a grave possibility that nimchip will kill me irl shortly

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Even though I run leech ironically

main aurora
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azerite bubble or overwhelming power ?

wary lantern
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but... its not my fault that i am getting leech on best items i have 😄

brave mauve
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😤 👌

bright pagoda
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rando question, got 1 open socket on my prism trinket. str? mastery? versa?

jovial haven
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OP @main aurora

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haste @bright pagoda

umbral forge
sand condor
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is that bad?

umbral forge
sand condor
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LOL HWAT

brave mauve
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That is unbelievably specific

outer dew
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Lol

brave mauve
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Update I'm at an udon shop outside the job interview location sobering up, let's get this bread boissss

outer dew
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???

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You went to a job interview intoxicated??

brave mauve
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Yes

sick sentinel
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Ok why tho

brave mauve
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Cuz

sick sentinel
modern brook
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u need to go to x interviews per period to get unemployment 🤷

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he is the problem

brave mauve
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Nah, I'm gonna get it, too

modern brook
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My head canon is better

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🤷

main aurora
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Ok ty @jovial haven

brave mauve
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True

jovial haven
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now if you went in intoxicated holding a beer and got the job, that would be impressive

brave mauve
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I know engineers like to party, but that's pushing it

jovial haven
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lol

brave mauve
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Is there any way to get triple bom triple dc with 2 impassive visages?

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I've got the one, but want another

neon tangle
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@lime mantle but combo of eng helm and dwarf is great

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Dwarf lets you safely stack up to 3 before reset, which gives you extra time for the eng helm to drop a stack or two

brave mauve
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Also ^

steady fiber
modern brook
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IDK if that chest peice is 415able though

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But Helm + pvp shoulders is 2bom2dc2IV

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if u dont care about the 3rd impassive visage

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@steady fiber M+?

steady fiber
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yea for m+

modern brook
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BoM IF

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assuming equal ilvl

sick sentinel
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God damnit

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I'm trying to take a shit and this guy is trying to have a conversation with me

main aurora
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sorry again, earth link or azerite bubble ?

sick sentinel
#

Earth link

main aurora
#

thanks guys 😃

sick sentinel
#

Bubble takes too long to build up

main aurora
#

okay 😃

sand condor
#

i am trash ;-;

umbral forge
#

its ok

modern brook
#

YES

#

Vic + Jettom hour

umbral forge
#

everyone has a phase where they only block 23% of Grong's auto attacks as a Prot Warrior.

modern brook
#

I was worried i missed it

umbral forge
sick sentinel
#

But could he do better

outer dew
#

@sick sentinel I'm into that

umbral forge
#

yes

sick sentinel
#

@outer dew I'm not, I want to shit and shitpost memes peacefully

outer dew
#

@umbral forge wtf did vic get caught with his pants down on last pull?

#

88k avg per meele?

#

Melee

modern brook
#

@outer dew he took 8 melees

#

other tank kept taunting off him

sick sentinel
#

Should have taken 8 more

#

To prove some point

outer dew
#

Is he just not prepping the swap incase?

modern brook
#

No i just mean

#

like

#

he missed mit on 4 melees

#

thats it

#

it just looks likea lot because he didnt tank like any

outer dew
#

They'd what I mean though

#

Only time has taking a hit is on taunt

#

He's taunting without any mit up

#

Unless that's him inting into grong at the end

brave mauve
#

I didn't even have a chance to mess up my interview with drunkenness. He didn't show lmao

outer dew
#

On mobile atm so csnt really check properly

brave mauve
#

I'm going home

outer dew
#

You're wild

#

And beer or something hard for the weekend?

umbral forge
#

I took Grong at the start. (I'm Nettom)
then after the throw he was being destroyed so I taunted back.

#

when I got back up

outer dew
#

You should be taunting on throw anyway

umbral forge
#

yea

#

I mean

#

I was thrown

#

but I taunted back when I came back

outer dew
#

Either way, each swap he's not prepping anything

#

If he's getting chunked that hard

umbral forge
#

yeah

#

he's doing good though

#

vic is just

#

susceptible to criticism

#

so I criticize

outer dew
#

Lol

#

I mean, I would be annoyed if my co tank didn't put up MIT before swap though

modern brook
#

yeah p late every time

outer dew
#

Like objectively from what you're saying

#

He's taunting and then SB and have it taunted off so it does nothing

#

So he takes an unmitigated auto and then SB nothing

umbral forge
#

I suppose so

modern brook
#

IDT grong melees during Combo though

outer dew
#

I mean, if you're side bitch

#

You always have block up for swap

royal lodge
#

Anyone race change to Zandalari? Does that Bwonzandi damage/heal work well with our mitigation?

modern brook
#

It definitely heals us if thats what ur asking

outer dew
#

Because if he's off tanking. He should always be pooling range

#

Rage*

#

Unless he's a mad lad and dumping it all into revenge

lusty grotto
#

i thought bwonsandi was inferior to the gonk gang and pakku posse

outer dew
#

All about dwarf racial

lusty grotto
#

bwonsandi bros?

#

stay on topic tofu

outer dew
#

Wdym

lusty grotto
#

no filthy alliance here

outer dew
#

He should listen about the all might shadow meld

#

And dwarf racial

lusty grotto
#

lmao

outer dew
#

M+ you gotta be alliance bby

lusty grotto
#

never

outer dew
#

It clicked why nerfclap was nerfclapa in mdi

lusty grotto
#

be alliance
never be able to pug

outer dew
#

Because he's nerfclap alliance bby

lusty grotto
#

not gonna lie

outer dew
#

I mean

mortal brook
#

Stoneform stronk

lusty grotto
#

i checked M+ groups on my rogue

#

5+ and lower

#

no 10s in sight

outer dew
#

Its because ilvl

#

I see 10s all the time

#

Lol

#

limbo keys are rare

lusty grotto
#

lies

mortal brook
#

Just be 420 ilvl, see all groups

outer dew
#

15-19 are rare

lusty grotto
#

i'll have you know my rogue is a 380

outer dew
#

20 is more common

lusty grotto
#

top of the pack bro

outer dew
#

Only 415 allowed in my +7

lusty grotto
#

i outdpsed ilvl 400 bads in LFR which is completely relevant content /s

outer dew
#

Must be leather and trade me all gesr

#

And do 500k overall

lusty grotto
#

in fact 😦

#

i outdpsed everyone 😦

outer dew
#

And then pay me 100k for a slot

lusty grotto
#

can i pay you in sexual favors and food?

outer dew
#

I was talking to a friend

lusty grotto
#

my rogue is leather tho

outer dew
#

I'd probably go gay, if they fed me properly

#

Lmao

lusty grotto
#

she hawt

#

well, cant blame you

outer dew
#

Is she a female dwarf or ne dwarf?

lusty grotto
#

cash is cash

#

NE dwarf clearly

#

i liked

#

lied

#

376 😦

modern brook
#

gonk is the objectively correct choice, yah

#

but he didnt ask for best loa

lusty grotto
#

you like my sexy slutmog?

modern brook
#

he asked if bwom heals

#

and it sure does

#

all ur mogs suck nim

lusty grotto
#

goddamn it

modern brook
#

:^)

lusty grotto
#

you people and your elitist sexual preferences

#

how can you say no to that sexy as shit legion pvp set

mortal brook
#

Kinda generic tbh

outer dew
#

At least you're NE

mortal brook
#

But my mogs are skittle mogs so i cant really say anyhing

lusty grotto
#

and those black as coal white shark eyes

primal crypt
#

Ally wat @lusty grotto

#

🤔

lusty grotto
#

yamo you've been gone

#

you left us

ionic fern
#

OFc Alliance.

daring patrol
#

ayy, infinite timereaver just dropped

mortal brook
#

Mdi meta

primal crypt
#

Ive been spending time away from the game

lusty grotto
#

we had to join the rest of teamchip on alliance side

primal crypt
#

Save some sanity

lusty grotto
#

meanwhile chef nimchip struggling to time 17s because fucking bull destroyed his outlaw set

primal crypt
#

Wifey forces me to come tank a couple m+

lusty grotto
#

and is now a spec that shall not be named

primal crypt
#

Lmao

#

Where is @modern brook

modern brook
#

hey

primal crypt
#

Why you deleting sets lol

outer dew
#

I memed as feral in a dungeon

#

And cried because my bear AoE was bettrt

#

QQ

modern brook
#

what did i delete?

lusty grotto
#

bull im not gonna lie, i was gonna donate to your gofundme

outer dew
#

Wdym

#

Bull needs a wow sugar daddy

modern brook
#

^

lusty grotto
#

but now that youre that spec

modern brook
#

im tryna cyber and for cash u know

lusty grotto
#

i dont know man i dont know

outer dew
#

She's a great girl, with a cute AF anime voice

modern brook
#

its true

outer dew
#

Should hear her say oppa, kimchi, and some mayo

lusty grotto
#

16 tos yesterday: pug rogue didnt get on discord

modern brook
#

@lusty grotto i cna still assassinate stuff

lusty grotto
#

me: proceed to pull entire snake room because fuck it

modern brook
#

I just said im not having fun playing outlaw why would i keep playing outlaw

outer dew
#

Should play sub tbh

lusty grotto
#

no interrupts

modern brook
#

I do :^)

lusty grotto
#

RIP key

outer dew
#

If I was to play rogue again

#

If play sub

#

Id

lusty grotto
#

EWWW

#

goddamn

modern brook
#

Sub is sick af man

#

Its purple

#

and spooky

chilly brook
#

If I were to play again I’d just do pvp 🙃

outer dew
#

Lol

#

I'm real casual atm

modern brook
#

take me in ur keys nim

outer dew
#

This week is probably just level paladin

modern brook
#

I'll do ~20k overall

#

thats enough

lusty grotto
#

no sub allowed

outer dew
#

Bull bby. Come to alliance

modern brook
#

u got it fam

outer dew
#

I'll take you around the world

modern brook
#

What spec u need?

primal crypt
#

Wait

lusty grotto
#

not sub

outer dew
#

Get your rogue 2k in a week and you can pug the world

primal crypt
#

Subtlety??

outer dew
#

Ezez

modern brook
#

My rogues just under 16k rn

#

20k is ezpz

#

uhhh

primal crypt
#

But

modern brook
#

add decimals

primal crypt
#

Outlaw

modern brook
#

More like out of fashion

primal crypt
#

But

#

Mdi

modern brook
#

if u liked that joke please consider donating to my gofundme

primal crypt
#

🤢

#

I have to get back to work lol

chilly brook
#

Slight scare

#

Go to turn on my laptop

primal crypt
#

And play my arms warrior

modern brook
#

good to see u again yam :^)

outer dew
#

Y'all need NE and Dwarf

chilly brook
#

Says no bootable device

#

Restart and we Gucci

primal crypt
#

Ill be back later :)

lusty grotto
#

ok ima roll arms then

warm plinth
#

Your first mistake was using a laptop

#

😏

chilly brook
#

U right

#

I wanted to upgrade my desktop

modern brook
#

Arms is sick af

#

In the sense that its both fun to play an anemic on the meters

chilly brook
#

But my dad refused to get me parts for my 21st birthday because he insisted that I “need a laptop”

lusty grotto
#

its not fun

#

fun is timing keys

outer dew
#

Arms is just rage starved for 50 years

lusty grotto
#

if you cant time on ez week its not fun

#

😦

#

😢

modern brook
#

have u tried playing since we burned ur tree tofu?

#

I dont have rage problems 🤷

lusty grotto
#

teamchip has abandoned nimchip

modern brook
#

also untrue

outer dew
#

That's toxic

chilly brook
#

Then they’re not team chip anymore

modern brook
#

Ujust refuse to take me along now that im the master of shadows, the blade in the dark, revenge in the night

outer dew
#

Team Magical Girls

#

That's gonna be us bullfango

#

Find all the wow sugar daddies

modern brook
#

Dont tempt me man

#

I'll fucking reroll rn

#

well RN+4 hours cause im at work

outer dew
#

We'll play the female trinity

lusty grotto
#

😢 did you know

outer dew
#

Druid, priest, monk

lusty grotto
#

we ran a stupid WM yesterday

modern brook
#

hunter, healer, druid?

outer dew
#

As ne or fem panda

lusty grotto
#

and the pugs couldn't fucking burn the witches

modern brook
#

i was p close

lusty grotto
#

by some fucking miracle we lived though the aoe

modern brook
#

Nim

lusty grotto
#

it was a 15

modern brook
#

U dont get it

lusty grotto
#

for fucks sake

modern brook
#

Pugs < my sub rogue

#

just take me

lusty grotto
#

how are people doing so little dps

outer dew
#

Sub use to be bonkers in wcm

modern brook
#

I even have the PVP trinket to reduce mob healing

outer dew
#

Lol

lusty grotto
#

lmao

outer dew
#

I remember watching a sub pump 40k on witches season 1

sick sentinel
#

I'll fill the druid spot

outer dew
#

That shit was nutty

modern brook
#

Let me disapoint u before u abandon me

sick sentinel
#

But not the healer druid

warm plinth
#

My annoying PUG experience recently was in a Throne of the Tides TW. I was clearly marking one of the spiritmenders in every pack (especially the packs with 2), and every fucking time, people would just attack random shit so they're just spam healing non-stop.

outer dew
#

Lol

warm plinth
#

I don't do M+ so I don't have relevant experiences.

outer dew
#

You would hate me

modern brook
#

Welcome to cata tw ghash

lusty grotto
#

i mean that still happens in M+

outer dew
#

I have an auto marker

modern brook
#

literally every time its up this happens

lusty grotto
#

hey guys lets never interrupt snakes in ToS

outer dew
#

You marked me?

#

Fuck that marker

lusty grotto
#

or lets never interrupt shrine heals

sick sentinel
#

Don't pull so much

#

Galaxy brain

warm plinth
#

But it's fun to try to outDPS Mending Rapids amirite?

lusty grotto
#

😦

#

😢

#

pls

modern brook
#

Know what can out DPS mending rapids?

outer dew
#

Interrupt with stun and fesr

#

4head

modern brook
#

My Sub rogue, if u pull 6 other mobs with it

sick sentinel
#

U know what's ur problem @warm plinth

lusty grotto
#

i need more leech memes cause its depresing

sick sentinel
#

U didn't use leech

warm plinth
#

What's my problem?

#

FUUUUUUU

outer dew
#

Oh

lusty grotto
#

ty Inr

outer dew
#

I got you

sick sentinel
#

Lol

outer dew
#

When I get home. I'll enchant my weapon with siphoning

sick sentinel
#

It was perfectly timed

warm plinth
#

Btw Tofu I'm doing TW with my druid, guardian for them tank queues and I'm not gonna lie - I'm actually liking it.

outer dew
#

Lol

#

Bear is fun

warm plinth
#

Idk what's happening to me

sick sentinel
#

I can tell u

outer dew
#

You should see in higher keys

warm plinth
#

Don't do it

sick sentinel
#

Prot is boring because it's too easy to win

outer dew
#

Where you just correct and run the fuck away

#

Vortex

warm plinth
#

I did vortex+typhoon a few times and I was like fuck I'm a pro

outer dew
#

Lmao

#

Yeap

#

You're like

#

I'm a real Dk jow

#

Now

#

:^)

warm plinth
#

lol, exactly

valid knot
#

[Knot of Ancient Fury] 400 [Jes' Howler] 410 [Eternal Alchemist Stone] 415, what ones should i use for m+ or raids?

sick sentinel
#

Knot/stone for m+ stone/Jes for raid

outer dew
#

Knot stone if you dont struggle with surviving

#

Jes/stone if you do

sick sentinel
#

But who cares about those pro druid strats

#

What's ur bear look like

warm plinth
#

I'm a wicker bear

outer dew
#

Ooh

sick sentinel
#

Wow u disgust me

outer dew
#

Alliance bear

#

We can meme together in tw

warm plinth
#

I'm a 🦄

sick sentinel
#

Not even legion bear

outer dew
#

I'm leveling my hpal atm

warm plinth
#

Actually I'm 105 now; I could use harambear

#

Since I have it on my worgen

jolly wasp
#

Guys, rezan vs gigavolt engine, same ilvl? gigavolt engine looks stronger to me

errant shuttle
#

@outer dew who is your disco pic of?

sick sentinel
#

Rezan

outer dew
#

For m+ or raid?

sick sentinel
#

Herself

jolly wasp
#

raid

errant shuttle
#

its no kpop selfie?

#

not*

sick sentinel
#

She is a kpop

outer dew
sick sentinel
#

U see

#

A kpop

outer dew
#

its Dami from yoohyeon

#

U mean

#

Dami from dreamcatcher

#

Bleh

sick sentinel
#

Is that a kpop

errant shuttle
#

drama?

outer dew
#

No. Group

sick sentinel
#

A group of?

outer dew
#

Like. Girl group

errant shuttle
#

dont follow kpop as much anymore

outer dew
#

Same as saying boy band

errant shuttle
#

blackpink

sick sentinel
#

OF WHAT GENRE

outer dew
#

Dream catcher is pretty lowkey

errant shuttle
#

is lit

sick sentinel
#

Do they do the kpop

outer dew
#

Yes

#

They do the kpop

sick sentinel
#

Thank you

warm plinth
#

Are you NA or EU Tofu?

modern brook
#

dude alliance has wow daddies and kpop

#

no wonder its the better faction

warm plinth
#

😉

sick sentinel
warm plinth
#

And Kul Tirans; don't forget those.

modern brook
#

Im fucking missing out

outer dew
#

I'm NA

modern brook
#

horde is just try hards

sick sentinel
#

The fuck

warm plinth
#

Oh shit we actually could meme TW

outer dew
#

Yeet. When you gonna be home for tw?

warm plinth
#

I work nights 😢

sick sentinel
#

Nerd

warm plinth
#

Says the guy with nerd in his name

outer dew
#

Ez

sick sentinel
#

Listen

outer dew
#

We'll go tomorrow

#

Ezez

sick sentinel
#

Let me hurt myself

warm plinth
#

I'll actually be home early today but I can't get on the drood without the gf. She's leveling a mage with me, and she works til like 1:30am RIP

sick sentinel
#

Make a 2nd druid

warm plinth
#

Meme dream dead 😭

outer dew
#

What time zone are you?

warm plinth
#

Central

outer dew
#

Make a second druid

sick sentinel
#

Boooo

outer dew
#

I'll be your side bitch

#

Lmao

warm plinth
#

Lmao

sick sentinel
#

EAST COAST BEST COAST

outer dew
#

L??

#

West coast, best coast

#

Because you onow

sick sentinel
#

west coast, worst coast

outer dew
#

It rhymes

#

Lmao

warm plinth
#

I'm in the midwest

modern brook
#

West=best, east = beast

#

I'm irrelevant fixed that for you @warm plinth

warm plinth
#

Thanks

outer dew
#

Lmaooo

#

Bby, could I move in with you and play wow for you :^)

modern brook
#

:^)

warm plinth
#

Cost of living is cheaper 😂

outer dew
#

I'll do all that AP WQ for you bby girl

modern brook
#

I cant even afford pots what makes u think i can afford a house wtf

sick sentinel
#

Wow

#

What an offr

warm plinth
#

lmao

sick sentinel
#

Who could pass on the free ap grind

outer dew
#

Running joke with a guy who funnels me gold

#

I'll move to his house and play wow for him when hes at work

sick sentinel
#

That's like weird stalker shit

#

I'll be in ur home ONLY when ur working

outer dew
#

Lmao

#

Wdym. I hide in the basement if you come home

warm plinth
#

Back in Wrath I made like $750 leveling another guy's toons. And it wasn't even huge amounts; like I'd make $250 leveling one toon from 70 to 80

outer dew
#

Touching is extra

sick sentinel
#

Forget touching

warm plinth
#

My gf and I actually will send messages to each other when we're on the way home. I'll tell her to hide her side dick because I'm otw home.

#

It's how our relationship works

outer dew
#

Move in my whole family and I'll cook and clean the house

#

Lez

sick sentinel
#

Ur not going for max bang for ur buck tofu

outer dew
#

Like the true SE Asian I am

warm plinth
#

But do I have to take my shoes off?

outer dew
#

Yes

#

If you dont

sick sentinel
#

U gotta charge him for sitting on his chair

outer dew
#

I'll stab you in your sleep so you wake up dead

warm plinth
#

Phew

sick sentinel
#

And extra if u take the plastic cover off

warm plinth
#

Graveyard is way far from my house too

outer dew
#

Wdym

warm plinth
#

Long ass corpse run

outer dew
#

We feed you to 6 feral dogs

#

???

warm plinth
#

Jesus

outer dew
#

That's a waste to bury food

warm plinth
#

This got really intense all of a sudden

outer dew
#

Lmao

#

Maybe, maybe

sick sentinel
#

Hey man, waste not want not

#

Or whatever

warm plinth
#

No reason to let the dogs go hungry I guess

#

And I'd feed a lot of dogs

outer dew
#

Yeap

#

You play rimworld?

#

The atrocities I do in that game

sick sentinel
#

Oh jesus

warm plinth
#

Even the name of that sounds disturbing.

sick sentinel
#

I thought u said if u play rimjob

outer dew
#

Lmao

#

Basically

#

You keep your enemies ina frozen locker to feed your pets

#

Or you skin them to make hats to sell

#

Or harvest their organs to sell..m

warm plinth
#

I wonder if they based that game on what I used to do to my butler in Tomb Raider 🤔

outer dew
#

Or if someone really annoyed ne

#

You could cut off both their legs

#

And force feed them

#

And let them sit in a room with all their dead comrades

#

Rimworld is some depraved times for power trips

#

Ngl

warm plinth
#

I've come to the conclusion that I don't ever want you in my house. You're scaring me.

outer dew
#

Wdym

warm plinth
#

Thanks for the housekeeping offer though

outer dew
#

I got you bby

warm plinth
#

Got some llamas with hats shit going on here

outer dew
#

I wouldn't actually do that

sick sentinel
warm plinth
#

Tofuuuuu that kills people

outer dew
#

??

#

What does

warm plinth
#

You need to go watch at least the first episode of Llamas with Hats on YouTube

outer dew
#

Hmm. I'll check out when I get home

#

Ya know what I always found funny

warm plinth
#

It's like a 2 min video. It gets increasingly fucked up as you go through the episodes

outer dew
#

People think I chose the name tofu because I really like tofu

#

It's just because of a funny to me Chinese idiom

warm plinth
#

I thought you just named yourself after the secret character in the Resident Evil time trial mode

outer dew
#

That's oddly specific

#

At least I didn't name myself. I bought a watch last year

warm plinth
#

I try to be oddly specific most times.

outer dew
#

Bby. Obv a match in heaven

#

Did you level your kt from lvl 20?

warm plinth
#

Yeah

outer dew
#

Wild

warm plinth
#

Gotta get that heritage armor

#

I have a 110 worgen druid that I made so I didn't have to be a night elf, and now I can be a druid that doesn't have a shitty race. I'm on board.

outer dew
#

That's toxic

#

Smeld is gods gift

#

Every day I'm on my warrior I get sad

#

I cant smeld anymore

warm plinth
#

I like smeld but not enough to be a male night elf. And I don't wanna be that creepy dude that plays exclusively female characters.

outer dew
#

That's me

#

I even have a fem DiD

#

😂

warm plinth
#

The fuck

#

Who makes a female dwarf

outer dew
#

I wanted a bigger Male gnome

warm plinth
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lolwut

outer dew
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Female dwarves fully armored

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Are basically larger gnom3s

warm plinth
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Interesting

outer dew
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Tbh. Lowkey was debating about race changing my pala to a dwarf

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Man

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I wish unlocking KT unlocks Zanadalri

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I would totally be a Male Zandalsri troll

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I cant go back to horde. All my toons would probably end up becoming a goblin

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And what ever happened to Sal?

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Never checks here anymore

modern brook
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shhhh

outer dew
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That's probably a good cal

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Call

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Anyway, yes warrior stuff

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How do y'all feel about next tier?

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You think we're strong atm because MIT + damage + affix?

sick sentinel
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lol

outer dew
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And if we were to have s1 again, would we fall out of favor because that was a utility season?

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And do you think blizzard will stay away from magic abilities for raids due to the nature of magic damage MIT pruning

exotic spoke
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Ghash I made a di female monk 😦

outer dew
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My man

modern brook
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UHH RIKI

outer dew
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If I wasnt only playing WW as dps

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I'd be a fem do dwarf

exotic spoke
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As for next tier, I think it will depend on the affix and any nerfs we may get

outer dew
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That's the thing I've been thinking

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Do we deserve nerfs?

modern brook
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🤷 Block is way too good in m+

warm plinth
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Monks are best class

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Tbf

chilly brook
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Even if we revert to s1 affix I don’t think we’d be kicked out of meta

modern brook
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We'll see a nerf to UF and probably a revert ont he Vanguard buff

warm plinth
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"Several people are typing"

exotic spoke
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Honestly, maybe some tuning in numbers?

outer dew
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Eventually we gonna hit a block cap

modern brook
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everoyne will say we're dead

outer dew
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Is the thing

modern brook
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and we'll continue being ~3rd best tank in all content

warm plinth
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We're not gonna see a revert on Vanguard. Our damage will be nerfed but that's about it.

modern brook
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behind Bear monk

outer dew
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And our MIT doesnt really scale

chilly brook
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Bear.....

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Y I K E S

outer dew
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In all honesty

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My bear pumps

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Lmao

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If my ST wasnt so garbage

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Bear sustain damage is actually a monster

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When it comes to aoe

modern brook
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^^^^ ppl dont know dude

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they just take reddit and are like yeah thats the look

warm plinth
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When they got damage buffs in 8.1 they got put in a decent place, especially with vortex given to them

modern brook
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"but sco said..."

warm plinth
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Also, do you even know how happy I was when I found out I could cast Soothe in bear form?

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I thought you had to be out of form

outer dew
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Only problem atm is rage gen, burst damage, and mit atm

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But MIT gets fixed with rage gen

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Having to bark/SI to start a pull is ridic

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And you know a bear is garbage when you never see him SS before a pull

modern brook
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warriors have charge demo to get a block out in the opener

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bear needs something similar imo

outer dew
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Yeap

warm plinth
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Why am I blanking on what SS is

outer dew
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Bear is very prone to one shot in openers

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Shapeshift

warm plinth
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Oh

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Yeah, why the fuck wouldn't you lol

outer dew
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Because they dont knownyou get 20 rage when you fresh SS to bear

warm plinth
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Unless you had rage banked from the last pull anyway

modern brook
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^ Unreliable at best, tbh

outer dew
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Should I make mac and cheese?

warm plinth
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I just love starting a pull with zero rage. Getting hit without IF up is incredible.

outer dew
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Yeap

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Even then

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It takes a couple thrashes in

warm plinth
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Though even with the shapeshift, I still don't have it up right away

outer dew
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Before you get your MIT rolling

warm plinth
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Which feels horrible

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Yeah

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Every other tank can just be like boop, mit's up!

modern brook
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imagine being able to rejuv in bear form w/o affinity :^)

outer dew
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And having maul key bonded makes me want to puke

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You cant rejuvenates in bear anyway

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Lmao

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Eve. With affinity

warm plinth
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Yeah it just gives you the ability; you still have to be in caster form to use it

outer dew
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Did I ever tell you about my pug mythic grong adventure?

modern brook
warm plinth
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lol

modern brook
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like seperate from reality

outer dew
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I'd be happier with hear if you could cast the heals in bear

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And have SI CD lowered

warm plinth
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I am using boomkin aff right now tbh

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No reason to run resto aff while leveling.

outer dew
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Helps with chainpulling

warm plinth
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Yeah I mean if I'm doing M+ I probably would, but healers are mostly bored in dungeons while leveling up

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What would be a neat change is if they lowered the cost of IF to 20 if it's the first cast of IF after entering combat.

outer dew
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20 cost if isnt even bad oversll

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With current rage gen

warm plinth
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True

modern brook
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I just closed my first ticket as wont do

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I feel so powerful

sand egret
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playing with fire...

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and @warm plinth it basically is, as you should be shifting into bear for combat which gives you 20 rage 😃

modern brook
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I WONT DO A N Y T H I N G

sacred roost
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Are you shooting for 1 of each warrior prot trait for the top 6 traits?

lusty grotto
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no

sacred roost
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or like, DC, 3 BFI, 3 BoM?

lusty grotto
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they stack

sacred roost
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err, 2 many traits there

modern brook
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3bfi 3bom + DC is god tier dude