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empty inlet
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just play bear

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😃

sick sentinel
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I play feral mainly, bear if I want to see my werebear ass

lusty grotto
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oh no

sick sentinel
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That's right

lusty grotto
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oh no

sick sentinel
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I'm into that yoffing u kids call it these days

lusty grotto
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what the hell lol

undone sun
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hmmmm

lusty grotto
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i dont know why but that name made me laugh

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"yoffing"

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or should i say verb

sick sentinel
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Whatever it is, we all lose

next plaza
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So how are you all dealing with grevious this week? I seem to be having a shit time and feel like I'm missing something. I'm currently ilvl 400 having some difficulty in +10s especially going into reaping.

lusty grotto
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you can't deal with it, that's a healer affix

empty inlet
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play with better healer

sick sentinel
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It's more dependent on ur healer

lusty grotto
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you're not a healer

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do prot stuff correctly and you'll take minimum damage, if your healer can't keep up you will have a bad time

sick sentinel
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Griev isn't necrotic so if ur treating it like that, dont

lusty grotto
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you can also... make fish feasts

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i guess

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i made a shitton anyway lmao

empty inlet
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fish feast is healer's affix too

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😃

sick sentinel
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This week is invite a mage/warlock

lusty grotto
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true

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but hey there's always that one healer that doesn't have them

sick sentinel
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Then kick said mage/warlock for that outlaw and dh

lusty grotto
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warlock why

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just go to your garrison

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and get a healthstone in the class challenge thing

empty inlet
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maybe leech is the play in grevious 🤔

sick sentinel
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I honestly was wondering that

lusty grotto
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😡

undone sun
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🗞

lusty grotto
sick sentinel
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At best ud see good results during reaping if u get a chunky group

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But that's pointless

lusty grotto
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hey wdf, wheres my hat

sick sentinel
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In that cauldron

lusty grotto
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😦

kind glen
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No hat for u

sick sentinel
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Ur hat IS THE HEALTHSTONE

lusty grotto
kind glen
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Other pic says different

lusty grotto
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it's an illusion

kind glen
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Who is lying?

lusty grotto
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tricks are what whores do for money

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illusion, michael

undone sun
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an illusion, what're you hiding!?

lusty grotto
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oh god no!

kind glen
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Lmao

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#iremember

lusty grotto
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why isnt that the nightborne racial

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dispel people's illusions, watch them go mad because of the cd on their mdi transmog dude

stoic pilot
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That would be a neat racial for them to have

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Dispel everyone’s transmog nearby for 20 mins lol

rough egret
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what piece should I roll guys?

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im running with this setup rn

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shoulders maybe?

hot locust
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save for cthraxxi shoulders, or buy a chest for chance at DC/BoM or CR/BoM

outer dew
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@daring marlin never forgetti

daring marlin
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@outer dew stop @ ing me

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I don't know you

outer dew
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wow

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sad life

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poor ing though

daring marlin
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w/e

rough egret
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I have cthraxi already :)

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I will roll chest then

daring marlin
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boom headshot

outer dew
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who are you again?

rough egret
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The chest that I have can have DC+BoM

daring marlin
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wut

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who

fast karma
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So fellas and ladies

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Question

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Triple Bastion of Might? Any good for M+?

sharp shard
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Yep

fast karma
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Would it be worth taking that x3 BoM if im losing a Deafening though

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Or would i be better off with x2 BoM and x1 DC?

serene stag
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is it a duplicate DC?

fast karma
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No

serene stag
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Although if it's the only one, would depend on what it's being swapped to.

sick sentinel
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in season one I was having more success with 3BoM over 2BoM 1DC but that was a different time

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you want to have 1 DC at all times

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even if that means losing a BoM temporarily

fast karma
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Its turning into a BoM. So yeah ill keep DC

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Thanks fellas/ladies.

empty inlet
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is it better to use avatar in the beginning of pull on tol first boss if you lust when he comes back up

tropic cobalt
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Hey guys. Dont know if its me or the healer. Was called worst warrior tank ever last night. Didnt have a problem in SOTS 11+2 , But i got hammered in AD 12 on totem mobs. https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/draenor/haytz chaining my defensives the best way i know. Sometimes i feel squishy. But dont know why.

World of Warcraft

Haytz (Draenor) ❮Splintered Souls❯ - 120 Undead Protection Warrior, 407 ilvl

round hornet
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do u have logs or something

tropic cobalt
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sadly not. I dont log Mythic+ I know its a bit stupid to ask then 😃

winter aspen
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Why cthraxxi for prot ?? Wtf

empty inlet
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totem mobs are suppose to fuck you

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dont pull them

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most route plays 1 MAX

sick sentinel
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@tropic cobalt which of the totem mobs was a problem?

sand condor
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The Honor guard

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I assume

zinc creek
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I would skip that trash pack on a fortified week, not worth it

sick sentinel
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of course its the Honor guard

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but which one? the one before the boss with the 2x

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the ones before, etc

spice ferry
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Honestly no idea why anyone would ever kill the pack with 2

sick sentinel
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Same... Hence my question

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If that was the mob giving issues, then you can just skip it easily

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if its the other ones, then its a problem of 1) healer asleep, or 2) tank having troubles with mitigation

ruby jacinth
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what is the weakaura that shows the P and M dmg incoming

undone sun
ruby jacinth
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ty

spark hamlet
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Does DC stack or no?

sick sentinel
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The damage does

spark hamlet
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Did read it and it said i want one 1 dc and 3 BoM but was wondering if the dmg from DC stacked with more dc as i dont many keys past a 10 atm and would like to have a bit more of a dmg output if surviving wasnt a issue

serene stag
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DC damage on TC stacks, DS extension does not.

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go big dick dmg if you want

opal nova
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How strong is Kul tiran for Prot in M+ vs another alliance race?

sick sentinel
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3BoM 3DC is a completely viable azerite trait lineup if you wanna go for meme amounts of damage

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not that much @opal nova

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there are better alliance choices over kultirans

opal nova
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So brush it off not that strong then

sick sentinel
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that being said, you should play what you enjoy playing the most, as in racials rarely matter

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well if you compare to fireblood and stoneform and the lightforged judgement day beam or whatever

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or even meld

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yeah not that strong

opal nova
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Ok thanks. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't OP as new race

sick sentinel
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its very rare that a race is so completely out of line/balance now

nova gale
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Unless you are Night Elf which is absolutely nuts for m+

valid knot
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Finally got my shield after 6 kills on 1st boss boda 😁

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Mythic

sick sentinel
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@nova gale if the whole squad is a nelf

nova gale
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aye

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You can do some sick skips as solo nelf too

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pull shit to the side leap out and shadowmeld

sick sentinel
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the same ones a rogue can do with vanish or a hunter with feign

exotic spoke
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What’s a hunter?

sick sentinel
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BM is pretty strong dude what do you mean

opal nova
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Meld is great. But I don't really like Nelf for Prot. Not "beefy" enough

exotic spoke
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All our hunters quit in uldir

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😦

sick sentinel
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I can attest to that toishi

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that's one of the many reasons why I am not a belf

nova gale
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what do you mean

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my petit belf is beefy

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lel

lunar shoal
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do i stack deafening crash or just 1 for demo shout

sick sentinel
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depends on what you want to do

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what content you are doing and at what level you are doing it

lunar shoal
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maximum dps

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m+

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15-20 key

sick sentinel
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you have to size it up with our other options and decide yourself

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DC is pretty strong for aoe damage but I would personally suggest not picking more than 1

runic fractal
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how to drop stacks from first boss?

sick sentinel
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spell reflect at the end of the cast

nova gale
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IF gives you about 1.5% dmg in a m+ and makes your block quite a bit stronger

sick sentinel
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if it's HC you wanna leap away and kite a bit but if it is mythic you don't even have to kite

runic fractal
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im going to try mythic tonight

sick sentinel
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iron fortress at 415 ilvl gives you as much block as 10 ilvls on a shield

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which is pretty strong

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and the damage is not half bad

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your second DC will make your thunderclaps around 6-8% stronger iirc

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and your third a bit less

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let me actually check my numbers though I might be off

nova gale
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I go from 7425 @ one DC piece to 8017 @ two DC pieces

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On the tooltip*

sick sentinel
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yeah all of that is amplified by avatar+talent+mastery from BoM

nova gale
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yup

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closing in on 418 equipped 😄

sick sentinel
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my numbers were a tad wrong, it is like more than 10% difference

nova gale
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that's pretty big tbf

sick sentinel
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for me thunderclap is about 45-50% of my damage

nova gale
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Looking at my last FH key I did

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31,7k dps

sick sentinel
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but my azerite setup is a bit eh tbf because I also keep a fury azerite set, progressing jaina as fury

nova gale
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54,8% TC dmg

sick sentinel
nova gale
sick sentinel
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bloodsport monkaS

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I was tempted to swap the metriculous scheeming for a DC tbh

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but why the bloodsport?

nova gale
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I kinda like BS. Only thing that helps a bit against magic dmg. But maybe its garbagio

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I'm not a big theory crafter

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More of a feely crafter

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xD

sick sentinel
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I have run with basically most trait combinations save for 3dc 3bom

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looking at the defensive benefits of each one

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I really, really do not like bloodsport

nova gale
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Well thing is

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You're a god vs physical dmg anyway

sick sentinel
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I have played alot with it as well because I was forced to

nova gale
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I don't have an alternative either actually

sick sentinel
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I was using merticoulus scheeming, then swapped it for BS for like 2 weeks and then I went back

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and I am looking mostly at the defensive properties of azerite/gear

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because we time the keys with a bunch of time to spare, what breaks our keys are deaths

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the main problem I have with BS as well is that most of the time I am using IP to prepare for a big hit or because I am going to cap rage and I overcap it

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that only makes the problem worse

nova gale
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I dunno

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I healed 13,3k HPS overall in the last m+ I did. I think I use IP quite a lot

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I try to keep IP up at all times

sick sentinel
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same

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you do like 23s right?

nova gale
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si

sick sentinel
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ok so I have a question

nova gale
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well I try atleast lol

sick sentinel
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we are in the process of timing 20s and depleting 21s rn, trying to to improve our team communication and everything

nova gale
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Nice

sick sentinel
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I am not dying, my healer says everything is fine with healing

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but my dps keep dying

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to like, everything

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idk what's wrong

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tell em to stop steppin in things and move out xD

nova gale
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sec

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Unless you are already doing this

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You should have a set CC rotation that you most often use. For example we usually do Single interrupts --> shockwave --> Chaos Nova --> Fear --> single interrupts --> typhoon and then just finish up

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And then try to go for consistency I guess so that the dps know exactly what to do on each pull

sick sentinel
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oh I use ERT to track their CDs and I am calling them

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and we have been practicing this

nova gale
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I mean then I guess just play more 😃

sick sentinel
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like for example on teeming underrot

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after the first boss

nova gale
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You're going to have to deplete a lot of keys before you start timing

sick sentinel
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where there are 4 maggots

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we like had this whole thing set up before we put the key in (because we wiped there the last time) and it went like super well

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yeah that's what I have been telling my group, that we are going to deplete a lot of keys before we start getting timed

nova gale
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yep that's the only way to do it. Then they need to start push the deepz

sick sentinel
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we have actually started improving our times tbh

nova gale
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Sweet

sick sentinel
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but still they are over 🤣

nova gale
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one thing that happens to us

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is that we time a key

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and once we timed it once we think its easy and we underestimate the key 😄

sick sentinel
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oh my god yeah

nova gale
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Honestly the most important thing

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have fun

sick sentinel
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the last 21 was a wipe on yasma tho lol we were really fucking close but somebody died to spiders

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and on the 20 the bird bugged and was evading for like 30 sec or so

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the one we were going to kill to skip the last reaping

nova gale
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ye that sucks

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tbh we have just killed that one this week

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and pull the last reaping into 3rd boss

sick sentinel
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that actually sounds pretty fine

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since you don't do anything on third boss anyway

nova gale
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Yep

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and all the reaping is gathered right at boss

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boosting bod hc pays off lol

sick sentinel
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big

nova gale
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haha I saw that

sick sentinel
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I was typing in fury and I still thought I was in fury

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lol

empty inlet
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Atal is so free I don't even know how I scuff my 22 this week

main aurora
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is the prot warrior hidden appearence artifct a daily check in the vault of neltharion ? i mean log ou and in don't work no ? i went on google but infos are from 2016..

sick sentinel
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it's daily

main aurora
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with the macro right ?

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😢

sick sentinel
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yeah

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there are people that got it first time there are people checking daily for months

distant crystal
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man we tried so hard to scuff a shrine earlier

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bodypulled 2 extra packs, screwed up our reaping timings a ton

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wiped past the elemental skip and had to skip it again

empty inlet
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Shrine is actually so doable with the 3 minute timer

distant crystal
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1 of the packs was the galecaller

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healer had to dispel himself twice on last boss

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30 seconds to spare!

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also, is it just normal that you'll aggro the galecaller pack if the boss surges over to that close corner?

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that seems new

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seems to always pull a few seconds after he plants in that side of the ring

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guessing it's heed my call or azerite globules or something

sick sentinel
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beast cleave from hunters maybe

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or something similar

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HMC has way too little of an AoE to do that

distant crystal
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i've just been running past and killing the 2 guys + doing the edge facepull trick to get the little guys around the galecaller

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then going back for boss

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just to be safe

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i've seen it like 3 times, i think we had a spriest in group for all 3

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but i know at least one of them he refrained from using DV while the boss was over there

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maybe fiend was out

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i could see it being a pet thing since they like to get behind the target

odd bone
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grong trinket is good ?

sick sentinel
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no

ionic fern
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Pure st it's decent.

distant crystal
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can you block/parry/dodge while using it? :p

ionic fern
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Doubt it. In raids you can use it when not actively tanking

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So won't be a issue there.

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Just gotta remember to use it once Avatar is on CD and SS as well.

sick sentinel
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U can't block or anything during grongs

distant crystal
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figured

sick sentinel
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It says it on the trinket no?

distant crystal
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that's how that one from nighthold worked iirc

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oh idk, maybe

sick sentinel
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you can AA though

potent anvil
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Pretty sure you can block during it. Easy way to test is on the tank dummy.

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Just tested it, you can block during Grong's

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You can also jump during it which is good for witches in waycrest

ionic fern
sick sentinel
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what are the best traits to take in the engineering helm

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i got bloodsport - synaptic spark capacitor - overwhelming power - auto self cauterizer or personal absorb-o-tron?

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not sure for the 4th trait to pick

sand condor
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no

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gizmo>SSC

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absorbotron usually

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self caut on kimbul

sick sentinel
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yeah thought about tht and ok thanks

jade sparrow
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Does anyone know if you can you still get the hidden artifact apperance?

astral crystal
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you can

sand condor
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you can

jade sparrow
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even if you didnt play warrior in legion?

umbral forge
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Yup

jade sparrow
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alright thank you a lot.

main aurora
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What if we create a try class 110 to try the hidden artifact prot weapon with the macro?

warm plinth
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AFAIK you can get the hidden appearance with a trial, but I don't think 110 trials start with their artifact, so it would be pretty tedious to keep making a new one, doing the quest, going to the cave, etc.

honest canopy
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@warm plinth 🙏🙏🙏

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@umbral forge what you like my new warrios Rio?

umbral forge
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What the shit

honest canopy
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Ikr

umbral forge
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@sand condor I'm just going to eat then we'll do m+ for a few hours yeah?

sand condor
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fuck yeah

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same

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1664 rio rn

umbral forge
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actually lemme check sign ups

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yeah I have to reroll before tomorrrow

daring marlin
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Jettom with the baby io

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Must be the Nightborne.

umbral forge
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what, that's not mine lol

daring marlin
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No. I meant your actual io.

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😛

umbral forge
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yeah its low

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I started pushing beyond 10's like 2 weeks ago but didn't want to use the easy week to inflate it

daring marlin
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It’s not your fault, man. You can hardly stand!

umbral forge
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I felt I'd lose my honor as a Warrior

naive panther
warm plinth
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No socket

daring marlin
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No socket

warm plinth
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RIP

daring marlin
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delete

naive panther
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been using 400 trinkets, only higher i had was jes and diamond

sick sentinel
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Who cares, no socket

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its worthless

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AND with no leech

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gtfo here

umbral forge
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no socket no leech

sick sentinel
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Oh wow, they put a block on people trying to enter a M+ dungeon if its already started

umbral forge
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.............

warm plinth
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What do you mean?

umbral forge
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that has always been there

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literally always.

sick sentinel
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Not in legion

umbral forge
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It was there in Legion

sick sentinel
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It wasn't

warm plinth
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Are you talking about the instance cap?

sick sentinel
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No, when u are doing a M+ and its in progress it wont let u enter

umbral forge
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I once accidentally depleted a +2 Neltharion's Lair cause I was outside but in party when the key started.

sick sentinel
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I done it several times throughout legion it was never there

warm plinth
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Uh, pretty sure it just won't let you enter while the group is in combat.

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Or while anyone in the group is in combat rather

umbral forge
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Huh

sick sentinel
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Because I remember doing Upper Karazhan with a lock during 7.3 and we could still summon a pug

umbral forge
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That's odd

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I remember just the opposite

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vividly so

warm plinth
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No you can definitely go in while the key is in progress. It might be different if you were actually outside when the key was dropped though.

umbral forge
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^yeah that I was outside.

warm plinth
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Though iirc it won't even let you drop the key if you don't have everyone inside

umbral forge
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that's new

main aurora
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is there a war who tank with Bigwigs ? i just star tanking and in raid, nothing said to me to take back the boss from the other tank so i don't know when switch

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can we set that ? if u can help me its awesome

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on dbm i had the info that i must take bac

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back

open bluff
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bigwigs doesn't attempt to play the game for you like dbm does

fluid hill
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blood elf or zandalari for m+ ??

sick sentinel
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objectively belf is better

open bluff
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you can probably configure it, but bigwigs assumes you have some basic knowledge of the fight and/or your co-tank/strat to know when you should be taunting

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blindly following dbm's taunt warnings can fuck things up sometimes

empty inlet
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415 jes / 415 vial / 415 block / 400 rezan with hole

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i am guessing vial + block ? 🤔

warm plinth
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Yeah, that's what I'd probably go with

open bluff
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vial/block is a good combo out of that, but 400 socketed rezan's probably isn't too far behind block

main aurora
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So i should stay with BW but keep an eye of the life of the tank so when i'm in pug ^^

warm plinth
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Eh, use what you like better. The only taunt warnings I've ever had issue with on DBM is ones related to stacks (e.g. Harjatan or something like that) where you don't always switch at the same stacks as you gear up since you can take more.

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But yeah, if you stick with BW, you'll have to pay more attention

mental scarab
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@main aurora for grong i have a huge castbar so know when to taunt for combo, but for the other bosses read tacts 😛

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I use BW

main aurora
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For exemple i was in lfr on opu

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And i didnt know when the diamant of the other tank was off

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Same on council of loa

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Sorry my english sucks

steel mauve
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or make a weakaura for it showing his diamond armor

fierce jackal
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Everyone wish @soft kindle happy bday deswind

dense flame
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How can you get your grp to actually bait spiders on yasma. I can’t seem to get people to really get them grouped well. Then they get mad cause the spiders aren’t well positioned to cleanly go corners to corner.

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Not sure how to communicate it to them to do it cleanly.

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Thinking next step is just link a twitch clip?

hidden panther
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"Group the spiders"

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that should do the job

dense flame
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Haha if only.

tribal schooner
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Thinking next step is just link a twitch clip?
this

hidden panther
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If someone fails you should offensively address his intellectual inferiority in front of everybody, and explain how to do it like he's five.

dense flame
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LMAO

hidden panther
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fear of public shaming will motivate him to perform better

warm plinth
fast kiln
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anyone quick has a link for a WA that shows it to me when i got healerexternals?

sick sentinel
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I got the "externals on me " from wago

fast kiln
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ty

trim talon
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Alright boys i need some assistance here to pick out traits for raiding
Here is what i currently have equipped:
x1 DF
x1 bloodsport
x1 BoM
x1 TC
x2 Brace
Are there any traits it should focus on getting, im pretty open to traits as i have pretty much all pieces you can get from raid except mekka shoulders

sick sentinel
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you can replace the TC for a prot specific trait but other than that you are in a very very good spot

trim talon
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@sick sentinel only trait i can swap TC for is callous reprisal and after what i have seen its dogshit

sick sentinel
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you can safely say it's not that good

last loom
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can someone

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link me the cancelaura macro tanks use on jaina?

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to cancel all heals

ionic fern
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@trim talon DPS wise you can just sim yourself.

dense flame
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for trash skips whats the % you want to hit in the initial ring for motherlode? like 70-80%?

wary lantern
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sporepods or machimba? 😄

ionic fern
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Depends what you're killing after.82%

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If you only kill the ones after the 2nd boss and not the big pack.

brisk ferry
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Neither Dafty

warm plinth
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@wary lantern If you have to go with one of those two, I'd probably use Sporepods just because they're more damage, unless you could see yourself using bandages on CD for some reason.

wary lantern
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was thinking that one more CD looking after aint worth it

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yeah, dont have anything else

queen solstice
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So, i MS fury but been lookin to tank a bit more. I've been feelin pretty squishy im running 2 IF traits and 1 BoM trait and the Eng goggles. Should i adjust my traits or is it just user error?

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im blowing through CDs stupidly fast

brisk ferry
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Traits won't fix your problem

steel mauve
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its error in play

warm plinth
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99% of the time it's user error. Even having the worst possible traits and going to the best possible traits shouldn't make you go from feeling squishy to feeling tanky (you might notice a difference but it's definitely not the issue)

queen solstice
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mmm k, im prioritizing SB over IP for my mitigation

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IP feels super weak

warm plinth
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Most common mistakes are bad effective Shield Block uptime and not using Avatar/Demo Shout on CD like you should. Talents could also be a problem if they're wrong.

thick cloak
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What tier 3 trait do you guys like the best on the engineering helmet for m+?

dense flame
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dont be afraid to use your defensives liberally

warm plinth
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Or if you are doing high content and have a shit shield; you would definitely feel that.

steel mauve
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IP is kind of weak, but its not that bad for what its used for, its a damage smoother, which does its job well enough

queen solstice
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mmmk my tank weaps are still 385 x_x

steel mauve
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whats the ilvl on your shield and are you running standard talents?

warm plinth
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Eh, a 385 shield should be fine tbh

queen solstice
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yea im running standard for Mythic+

ionic fern
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Don't face your back to the adds.
Don't spam Revenge - use rage on IP instead - Use Revenge when you get a free proc or snap AoE aggro/Deep Wounds needs to be applied.
Last Stand can be used pretty freely since it has a fairly low uptime, just don't overlap it with SB.
Use Avatar/Demo pretty much on CD.
Don't overcap rage.
Use SR correctly, to either reflect a spell or reduce the dmg of any of them.
If it's magic damage only (last 2 bosses in ML for example) - use all your rage into IP.
Shield Wall vs magic damage mostly or to cover for holes in AM uptime (SB/LS are down).

jade sparrow
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Do you guys take Storm Bolt over Rumbling Earth?

ionic fern
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Some do, some don't. I prefer not to.

brisk ferry
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☝️

warm plinth
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It's not a bad idea. I prefer Rumbling Earth myself, but there's not really a wrong answer.

queen solstice
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roger that thanks Mwahi

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and everyone else

ionic fern
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There are some arguments in taking Storm Bolt in ML for example so you don't DR all the adds if you got multiple AoE stuns already.

queen solstice
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yall the best

steel mauve
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ya i prefer stormbolt for the extra interrupt stun

warm plinth
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If you want more specific feedback, you should log some of your runs DrStillo. We could more easily see what's wrong.

daring marlin
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I always take sb

jade sparrow
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ok

daring marlin
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no matter what

thick cloak
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Unstable flames, overwhelming power or ablative shielding for m+?

warm plinth
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Overwhelming Power

queen solstice
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ok

brisk ferry
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OP always fuuma

wary lantern
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knot and? briny?

sick sentinel
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maybe briny

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but mchimba for surv

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(out of those 4)

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delete the sporepods XD

main aurora
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As a new tankboy, is there a way to have the frame of the other tank like WA or smthing , its to look after his debuff and when i should take it back ( i don't want to use Foca but if there is not solution i will)

wary lantern
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spores were the the 1st trinket i got 😄

warm plinth
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I would use Knot and Barnacle personally.

wary lantern
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ty for opinions

daring marlin
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:^)

remote tusk
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@main aurora Focus Target??

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Easiest solution to do it, most WAs rely on it too I believe.

daring marlin
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Nope.

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I have a WA package for bod that shows tank debuffs. Doesn’t require focus.

inland mesa
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I need one for jaina that shows stacks on off tank and time remaining

sick gorge
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Do i get prot WA here?

steel mauve
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i made my weakaura for jaina to show my focus targets stacks with time remaining and says taunt when i want to taunt at a specific stack number

sick gorge
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!wa

astral crystal
sick gorge
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ty

valid knot
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When running 10+ keys what dmg are you guys at in overall? I know this is very dependent on what duengeon and how good group you got. Still curious

sand condor
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Between 17 and 25k

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Depending on what dubgeon

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Underrot i tend to spike

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Tol dagor too

valid knot
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50% clap dmg or more?

sand condor
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Yeahhh

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Lots of clap

brisk ferry
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Yeh same. Depends on affixes as well

valid knot
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What lvl of keys are you running? Ilvl?

brisk ferry
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10-15 & 414

valid knot
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Ok, ty for reply

noble thistle
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12-14s i hold around a 30k+ overall, i also have x3 clap

sand condor
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15-17 412

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Only 2 bom 3dc however

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Odd i assume you double or triple pull packs?

noble thistle
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mm depends, but i would say i do doubles about 75% of the time

brisk ferry
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Your total DPS for dungeon is 30k

sand condor
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Average dps^

brisk ferry
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I only double or triple and I've never been there. Check total at end of dungeon.

noble thistle
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yeah like overall average dps

sand condor
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Are you running multiple defening crashes?

brisk ferry
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Solid. I'm only 2 DC 2 Bom. Better get more

sand condor
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What ilvl?

brisk ferry
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  1. Usually finish around 22-25k
noble thistle
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o.O

sand condor
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o.O

noble thistle
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thats your average this week???

sand condor
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Trinkets?

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This week....

brisk ferry
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400 rezan 400 knot

sand condor
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Stahp if you pull 20k this week you’re god

brisk ferry
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No I didn't say this week rofl

noble thistle
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:x

bronze lantern
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overall is highly dependant on the key this week

noble thistle
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On the ML 14 i just did i finished at 25k

sand condor
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Oh yes motherlode is a fun one too

bronze lantern
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i boosted a sots15 and finished at 30k 🤷

noble thistle
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but im also using BB pots on reaping

bronze lantern
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why would you ever use BB ?

noble thistle
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Sots is the easiest one this week imo

sand condor
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Dont

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Those are for single target

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Use strength pots

noble thistle
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did they nerf it?

bronze lantern
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read the text

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its split dmg

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it does fuck all on aoe.

noble thistle
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i swear it was better a t the start

bronze lantern
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it never was.

noble thistle
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idk I remember playing arms at the start of xpac and doing like 120k with it on a BS

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but thanks for the tip, lol.

valid knot
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So ppl stack DC at high keys aswell? Heard its not worth the loss of survival

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x3 bom x3 dc the dream?

sand condor
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Fuck yeah

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The grand dps of doom

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More dps = less dmg taken

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=

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Survival

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Solid math?

valid knot
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I could get another dc and lose 1 IF. Would put me at x3 bom x2 dc 1 if

mortal brook
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enemy's death reduces damage taken from that enemy by nearly 100%

chilly brook
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@valid knot I’ll put it this way, if you’re not having any issues with survival go with more damage

honest canopy
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@sand condor #logic

sand condor
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Ah yes

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I indeed do logic

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Me-my dog= forcefully joining nettoms guild, out of free will

honest canopy
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I am debating IF I should go DC, BoM n BFI stsckin for my first Rasta raid (tanke champions week 1 of M, not tanke any M boss since 😂) or safe it up bigtime. First raid with new guild, they asked me to replace normal tanks, was recruited as dps 😪☝️

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You and Jettom could tell me w/e and I would belive in it

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Trust its on a lvl now i Will just say gucci have fun and gl etc 😪

vague ruin
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Those are good traits, the scary part of that fight is the magic damage

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Tanking bwonsamdi puts a pretty big magic dot on you

small storm
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think this is the best tank out there

plain verge
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Is the stat priority listed on icy veins at all different for M+?

main aurora
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@daring marlin What is ur WA mate ? its a general WA or one for each boss ?

jovial jewel
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I just got an 425 shield

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dropping if doesn’t feel like I need it anymore. Is that overkill?

steel mauve
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gonna be an invincible wall with a 425 lol

sick sentinel
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@lusty grotto I heard you like screenshots

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A master piece

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Does it also use leech build?

undone sun
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🤦

astral crystal
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lol i searched some clips

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the recount clip is 👌🏿

sick sentinel
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asking the true questions here

jovial jewel
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I mean I can tell a huge difference

undone sun
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hmmm

sick sentinel
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I just deleted my previous message after realizing how stupid I was, I just showed who this guy is though his twitch name lol

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but still

jovial jewel
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I am, this week is weird, I can’t technically tel with these affixes.

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But I also pug so it might be change in healers.

sick sentinel
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Remember everyone

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Don't use IP

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Only losers use that

undone sun
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fact

jovial jewel
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12k+ block..

sick sentinel
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That just makes me wonder, if he doesn't use IP, is spamming SB?

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@jovial jewel you will will see diminishing returns on the block stat after a 415 shield and upwards but it is still really valuable

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in mythic plus that is

small storm
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that guy is a god, he used avatar once on jaina

sick sentinel
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yes mccan I yoinked that screenshot

jovial jewel
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Okay, I mean it’s kite week and bosses are roughly yeah bosses this week. Can’t wait to test it out next week

sick sentinel
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no he didn't ask that

astral crystal
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kudos to whoever asked this dude to do mythic jaina

sick sentinel
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He can't use BfI or IF anymore, he's gotta go Bloodsport or CR now

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so the idea is that blocked attacks can be reduced up to 85% with crit block and a 415 shield without any IF or BfI traits gives you enough block to reduce damage by 42,5% which becomes 85% when crit blocked

undone sun
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just block enough damage where you dont need IP
EZ

astral crystal
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omg this pull lol

sick sentinel
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so more block does not make your crit blocked damage reduced further

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that being said, crit blocked hits don't harm us anyway, whereas a blocked hit can still be very harmful, so getting more block stat still reduces the main portion of the damage that is harming us

mortal brook
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jesus this guy

sick sentinel
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Can I get a link tho

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and yes INR and steve, this guy clicked his bandages and also clicked his last stand

mortal brook
undone sun
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hide preview 😡

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didn't you learn

mortal brook
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how to hide preview D:

undone sun
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< > on either side

small storm
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Hahaha

sick sentinel
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@jovial jewel disregard the other discussion, do you see where I am going with this?

mortal brook
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😄

primal sable
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double prot new meta?

mortal brook
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imagine having war stomp on 3 keybinds

sick sentinel
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@empty terrace just wanted to help this guy out a tad

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he even offered his 20 motherlode

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and the guy actually wanted to go

umbral forge
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what

sick sentinel
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Ayo why does my guy have 3 FUCKING WAR STOMPS AND A ALL THESE FUCKING MOUNTS ON BAR

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WHY DOES HE HAVE 2 VICTORY RUSH KEYBINDS FOR

umbral forge
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what am I looking at

sick sentinel
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this guy is a legend dude he has achievements from 2008

mortal brook
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war stomp on 7, q, and 8

umbral forge
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how did you get @lusty grotto to record himself playing.

mortal brook
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he's using dev when tclap is available D:

primal sable
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boneshard on bar

sick sentinel
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he used avatar a single time on a HC jaina kill

primal sable
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this guy knows whats up

sick sentinel
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and yes this guy tanked jaina HC and killed it

mortal brook
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other warr went prot, literally 3x'ing this guy

warm plinth
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Wait, how did you guys find me on Twitch?

umbral forge
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h-how is he taking so much damage

sick sentinel
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jet look at the screenshot I posted

umbral forge
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im in a ToS. Lemme scroll up

jovial jewel
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What dungeons do y’all suggest to push this week? I’ve done atal, under, way,

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And ml.

small storm
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he doesnt use IP

sick sentinel
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all of them because you are not going to do anything next week

small storm
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it doesnt block any dmg

umbral forge
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"ignore pain is trash" lol

small storm
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real tanks use shield block

empty terrace
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xD

umbral forge
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oh he's streaming

astral crystal
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26 deaths skyhold

jovial jewel
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@sick sentinel thanks that explanation helps a ton

sick sentinel
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Watching this stream like

jovial jewel
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I do some every week

astral crystal
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wait there's two tanks now

sick sentinel
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yeah atti

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THERE HAS BEEN TWO TANKS THE WHOLE TIME

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executie sneaked into the run

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and went prot

astral crystal
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is it the executie in this channel?

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oh wow

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loll

sick sentinel
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THIS MAN IS TYPING AND NOT MOVING

astral crystal
#

sick sentinel
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HES STANDING IN SHIT

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we have been linking his clips in a different discord for like hours now

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he was tanking this inside the sanguine

small storm
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top 1 of his clip

sick sentinel
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Why does he have two Victory rush Keybinds

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WHY DOES HE FUCKING HAVE 2

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and 3 warstomps

small storm
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just randomly afk inspecting midfight

sick sentinel
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THIS MOTHERFUCKER IS USING GOD DAMN RECOUNT

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I JUST NOTICED HOLY SHIT

mortal brook
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oh that's why it looks like the other prot is 3x'ing him ^.^

sick sentinel
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HES STANDING SO FUCKING LONG IN THE POOL

astral crystal
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him running around in sanguine

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pvp shuffling in it

primal sable
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i kinda feel bad

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is this a boost?

sick sentinel
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A boost has brain cells

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This isn't a boost

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This is a fucking clown show

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The better question, is he new?

primal sable
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lmao the bwomsandi whisper

small storm
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he just came back to BFA

sick sentinel
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btw, this guy is the guild leader of his guild :))))

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SINCE WHEN

small storm
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but he has been playing for years

sick sentinel
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BURNING CRUSADE?

lucid bough
#

mate, people can be bad in this game

sick sentinel
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he has MoP cloak

lucid bough
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in fact

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this is a fucking game

primal sable
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noob group is accurate

small storm
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he is proud of his mounts and legendarys from MoP

lucid bough
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people reallt need to chill

astral crystal
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lol

sick sentinel
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When the guy says, fuck IP

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No

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I just posted a screenshot to laugh for a sec

lucid bough
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its not like its a crime being bad in a game

sick sentinel
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Fuck anyone trying to say "Chill"

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and we went on a witchhunt

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Oh I will witchhunt first and fast

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that's like, not ok for this discord to be completely fair

primal sable
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maybe it should be a crime

umbral forge
#

...

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HE'S TIMING IT

small storm
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or is he

lusty grotto
#

what did i miss

sick sentinel
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People witching hunting

lusty grotto
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i was apexing all day

sick sentinel
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People angry about witchunting/hunters

lusty grotto
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oh

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who are we witch hunting? random streamers?

small storm
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we are not witchhunting

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this is good content

sick sentinel
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According to someone we are

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jet they are timing it BECAUSE @empty terrace IS TANKING

lusty grotto
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yo i saw the screenshot lmao

sick sentinel
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and his rogue friend

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Nope, they cant time it

empty terrace
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we arent gonna time

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it

sick sentinel
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Mommy aggro from the rogue

empty terrace
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we are gonna

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pull timer and HS

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xD

sick sentinel
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^ damn

primal sable
#

savage

sick sentinel
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LOL

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Some fucking galaxy brain logic

primal sable
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oh shit its happening

lusty grotto
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pull timer and hearthstone? shit with the 500 IQ strats

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why didn't i think of that

sick sentinel
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@empty terrace why do you have siphoning on your weapon REEEEE

small storm
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He doesnt have DBM so he cant see poulltimer

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@empty terrace REKT

lusty grotto
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what the fuck

sick sentinel
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he inspected you lol

lusty grotto
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siphoning?

primal sable
#

this is gigasad

lusty grotto
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👉 🚪

sick sentinel
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Pepesad

empty terrace
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idk why i have that on

winter aspen
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Wtf you watching ?

lusty grotto
#

listen i go away for a few hours and i see siphoning

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when will it end

empty terrace
#

omegalul

lusty grotto
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WHEN WILL IT END

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😡

empty terrace
#

This dude left 4 keys today

primal sable
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bruh he's shaming you

empty terrace
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so we did the same

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😄

small storm
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@empty terrace h eis putting out a banlist

lusty grotto
#

yikes

high temple
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Siphoning saves lives 😤

lusty grotto
#

siphoning saves nothing

empty terrace
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@small storm nah

lusty grotto
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please destroy your weapon

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don't even re-enchant it

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destroy it

high temple
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I can’t the leech keeps healing it

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It’s taken over at this point

lusty grotto
#

silly goose, leech can't block

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its the inferior tertiary for morons that take gearing advice from nerf and glickz

empty terrace
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we are doing the key for him

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dont worry

sick sentinel
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nah

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You either commit to it or dont

primal sable
#

yea

sick sentinel
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If he wants the run

primal sable
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be a man and pick one

sick sentinel
#

Ask for his social

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That bitch cant run

undone sun
#

alright calm down

lusty grotto
#

🙏

sick sentinel
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Nah, nah I want his social, his car keys, his dog, them shoes

lusty grotto
#

im sorry father thyme, they mentioned leech and siphoning

sick sentinel
#

calm down nim all I wanted is to show you shit screenshot

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I didn't wanna start this

lusty grotto
#

ok ok

undone sun
#

nah, it was mostly just INR

mortal brook
#

lol group bailed on him

undone sun
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yours was fine 😏 @lusty grotto

sick sentinel
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@mortal brook it was pre-planned

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they wanted him to feel bad for leaving pugged keys earlier

empty terrace
#

yeah

mortal brook
#

hah! nice

empty terrace
#

we good

sick sentinel
#

felt so bad

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had to finish it

acoustic umbra
#

😃

sick sentinel
#

at least he is running the correct talents

small storm
#

He legit stod in sanguine and died then blamed the group and left 3 keys that way

sick sentinel
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@acoustic umbra how does it feel healing this guy

acoustic umbra
#

oof

empty terrace
#

yeah we had to finish it

acoustic umbra
#

DO 60k HPS for 3 mins

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I drink

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"why are you oom"

mortal brook
#

ohhhh you're the prot warr that actually knew what he was doin ^^

primal sable
#

did he just avatar to kill a critter

small storm
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Haha

sick sentinel
#

he asked why did they BL the last boss of UR

acoustic umbra
#

wtf did he die to

sick sentinel
#

and he went to soak spores

#

hes

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actually

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fucking flaming us

undone sun
#

hmmm vrocas

acoustic umbra
#

hey 🙂

empty terrace
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and he gets loot

undone sun
#

👋

acoustic umbra
#

Does this discord not have global emotes wtf

empty terrace
#

No

undone sun
#

not spec channels

empty terrace
#

😦

acoustic umbra
#

pretty gay

sick sentinel
small storm
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Haha and he says ”this was the worse run ever”

high temple
#

Coastal surge pog

sick sentinel
#

At least he can tell what a bad run is

primal sable
#

lmao

empty terrace
#

ahah

mortal brook
#

but will he learn anything from this

sick sentinel
#

The fucking boys

lusty grotto
#

i have no idea who these people are

primal sable
#

excellent picture sir

warm plinth
#

Looks like they're the people playing with the aforementioned not great (witch hunted) warrior

lusty grotto
#

gotcha ghash

umbral forge
#

Ghash I only looked at him play I never once sent him a negative image

acoustic umbra
#

How am I not known

umbral forge
#

or message

acoustic umbra
#

I'm giga famous

umbral forge
#

I didn't even know you could take that kind of damage

sick sentinel
#

Run that mans pockets

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Take his gold

warm plinth
#

I'm not accusing anyone of anything. That was the only way I could think to refer to him since I don't know his name. That's all.

undone sun
#

vrocas is a resident druid, only reason i know of them

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🙃

small storm
#

He is a veteran

warm plinth
#

I'm the world's best prot warrior; surpised you haven't heard of me.

#

😉

umbral forge
#

I just shitpost here a lot and that's about how far my fame goes.

undone sun
#

🤣

acoustic umbra
#

Where the fuck do I know you from T hyme

#

I've seen you so many times

umbral forge
#

Oh I solo tanked heroic grong as my crowning achievement

undone sun
#

i mod in dreamgrove

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that's probably where

acoustic umbra
#

oh right

warm plinth
#

The correct question is "where the fuck don't I know you from Thyme"

undone sun
#

lol true

umbral forge
#

I see him everywhere

empty terrace
#

me fame

#

hihi

sick sentinel
#

I sacrificed 2 hours of sleep for this

#

worth

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gn people

empty terrace
#

Yep worth

undone sun
#

🛌

empty terrace
#

🛏

acoustic umbra
#

Ye wtf it's 3AM

#

i'm dead

sick sentinel
#

it's 4 here

empty terrace
#

yep 3

#

calling in sick

#

gn

undone sun
#

6pm 🙃

warm plinth
#

Almost 8 here

#

Silly EU folks and their being in the future shit

sick sentinel
#

"Being in the future"

mortal brook
#

i dont think he learned anything

empty terrace
#

well he cucked himself

#

linking that kley

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after saying

#

i have a big dick

#

xd

#

NVM he got in

sick sentinel
#

God bless that groups soul

empty terrace
#

hes gonna leave

mortal brook
#

isnt it just a m0 group?

#

they can refill

empty terrace
#

its a 9 ML

mortal brook
#

LOL

umbral forge
#

oh my God no

primal sable
#

But motherload is easy he said

umbral forge
#

yeah but he's doing THE MOTHERLODE!!

sick sentinel
#

easy +20 motherlode

#

if they don't let him down

umbral forge
#

WOW

#

Oh he took it

primal sable
#

Im witnessing the cringiest RPing

empty terrace
#

hes gonna leave that key

#

100p

#

didnt learn from what we did PepeHands

mortal brook
#

shoudnt have finished the key for him tbh

empty terrace
#

yeah fuck me

umbral forge
#

MVP Leap

sick sentinel
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dude he went all silent

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and emo

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i couldn't handle it

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atleast flame us after we leave 33 minutes into a key

mortal brook
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gotta leap, no heroic throw on bars

lusty grotto
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you know

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if you watch him

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on twitch

umbral forge
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you right

lusty grotto
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you are actually giving him something good

umbral forge
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Mate if he was a partner I'd subscribe

lusty grotto
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i can't understand why people watch these guys at all and then talk shit

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just don't watch him

sick sentinel
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Same reason why people watch game of thrones

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Because people like to watch bad things

umbral forge
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Nimchip, it's entertainment.

sick sentinel
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it's funny

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what

lusty grotto
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they gain nothing from not looking at him

sick sentinel
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it's actually top quality content

empty terrace
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^

sick sentinel
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look at how shit he is

mortal brook
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top kek

sick sentinel
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how can u not laugh at that

umbral forge
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HE IGNORE PAINED

lusty grotto
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you want this guy to get fucked by karma, but you give him a view on twitch

sick sentinel
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shut up

lusty grotto
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🤷

sick sentinel
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Did he actually IP?

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I dont believe that

primal sable
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He did

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Praise the lord

mortal brook
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#blessed

sick sentinel
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the shut up wasnt meant for u nim btw

lusty grotto
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Reminds me of this pvp monk in my server, that apparently everyone hates, but EVERYONE WATCHES HIM ON TWITCH. So who's really winning here?

sick sentinel
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Us

mortal brook
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twitch, mostly

empty terrace
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oh well back to my home arms

lusty grotto
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true, twitch

umbral forge
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I don't want him fucked by karma I genuinely just like watching bad people with high ilvl play the game to justify raider.io's existence even more.

sick sentinel
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Why wouldn't you watch this

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this is fucking gold

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hes a fountain of fucking entertainment

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it's like keeping a pet retard

mortal brook
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LUL

undone sun
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👀

empty terrace
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@sick sentinel he forgot us tomow

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lets help him on alts

primal sable
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Honestly, you show this kind of gameplay to new peeps so they know what not to do

sick sentinel
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^

umbral forge
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@empty terrace i wanna join

sick sentinel
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he's got the memory of a fish so I wouldn't be surprised if he did

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Probably wake up thinking we actually left and never came back

mortal brook
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honestly, if you added him he'd prob just accept

empty terrace
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I love hes random tab outs

sick sentinel
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I gotta ask, are there addons recommendations on the guides?

warm plinth
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Just ElvUI and WA probably, like most guides

mortal brook
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a lot just have the 'useful macro' sections

sick sentinel
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Ok cause I was like, if he read our guide I hope recount wasn't there

warm plinth
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Recount in 2019

sick sentinel
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Because then we could say he actually read a part of the guide but did not learn it

warm plinth
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ElvUI, boss mods, GTFO, WA, Details, Plater (if not using ElvUI nameplates), Angry Keystones, Exorsus, and a threat bar are the recommended addons

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It does actually mention Skada and Recount as alternatives to Details though

acoustic umbra
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😨

undone sun
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they technically do the same thing @warm plinth just two are objectively better than the other

sick sentinel
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the question mark at the end

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kills me

empty terrace
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wth

warm plinth
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Yeah, I know. I've used both before. I was just clarifying that Recount actually is there, since he was asking if it was a recommended addon

undone sun
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👍

umbral forge
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he didn't kick the cannon ball into

sick sentinel
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Because he shouldn;t

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What is he

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Some dps scrub

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He has recount

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He knows what he is doing

warm plinth
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Just out of curiosity, when can we be done with the 2 hour flamefest? I come here so I don't have to listen to the same toxic shit that I can find in most other class discords. Take it to #off-topic or something

steel mauve
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i actually use plater with elvui, i prefer them

sick sentinel
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What is plater?

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Is it like Tidyplates?

undone sun
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yes

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same type of addon

mortal brook
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bless this monk and their ring of peace

steel mauve
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an extremely customizeable nameplates

sick sentinel
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How customizeable?

undone sun
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extremely

mortal brook
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there's like 500 settings to every nameplate aspect. its wild

steel mauve
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i got over whelmed at the options page the first time i opened it up

sick sentinel
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Hm, i might have to check it out

umbral forge
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Oh yeah lads.
Should me and vic to double prot warrior grong mythic

sick sentinel
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Im gonna guess I can set it up to where I the plates spread, and show certain debuffs on the add? like if an add is enrage or standing in pools

umbral forge
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Or blood DK/Prot Warr?

sick sentinel
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Double prot

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Cheese the grip

umbral forge
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Hell yeah

sick sentinel
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with SR

umbral forge
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We're gonna double prot the entire raid

sick sentinel
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IGNOREPAINPOG

mortal brook
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right after, sees the pat pulled, pulls next group completely ignoring, gets yanked back by the priest ^^ this is actually gold

sick sentinel
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Man now I am really motivated to try this plater addon

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wait

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CAN I CUSTOMIZE THE SIZE AND LOOK OF THE FRAME?