haha ok
#protection
oblique garnet
Pretty sure we almost ended up at like almost 200% xD
lusty grotto
also i fucked up an ML earlier in the week
sick sentinel
Late wanting that double reaping
sick sentinel
Dont try that tommorow
oblique garnet
@ionic fern well you see i was just messing around with my friends like my friend got his resto druid at 120 yesterday and he got confident so i wanted to test his limits
oblique garnet
Pretty sure we did like 5 packs etc
lusty grotto
yeah forgot grievous on mini bosses
ionic fern
Did his confidence pay off atleast?:D
oblique garnet
Before we even pulled the 2nd boss we were at 100% xD
ionic fern
😂
oblique garnet
Well yeah you learn by doing giga pulls
lusty grotto
not playing week?
oblique garnet
Learning new class with me is always an experience since i dont stop going big
But tbf we got his rdruid to 400 in less than 12 hours
lusty grotto
feels bad dying to the dumbest shit or fucking a last reap tho
i got all the sharks i swear to god
that never happened to me before
crisp pecan
this week supposed to be huge, but i only managed to increase score by 50 :ddd
sick sentinel
I've stopped pushing generally on my warrior
lusty grotto
im legit scared of next week tbh, only cause of the combo
fort doesn't really scare me by itself, i like it
oblique garnet
Fort sanguine grievious?
sick sentinel
Yea
ionic fern
I did some pushing..not as much as i would have wanted tho..all the 21 keys we got were KR.
sick sentinel
Fucking wow
crisp pecan
KR...]
lusty grotto
that's some luck
sick sentinel
That's some yikes
crisp pecan
i only pushed ML from 17 to 19
did dozens of SOTS 19
still only completed 18 in time
Deathrun is too hard
lusty grotto
lmao i had forgotten all about that
quiet hornet
There’s one. 15s too
oblique garnet
Thats the cutting edge
quiet hornet
Keystone conqueror for 10s keystone master for 15s
sick sentinel
And what sad is I could not only get back to my old .io score on my warrior I'd get there so fast because I'm prot
But it's not fun
quiet hornet
Shud be ez to push. 8.1.5 all of a sudden 15s are the new 10s
sick sentinel
I'm playing feral because it's the prot warrior situation all over again
sick sentinel
Hey man, in 415 full geared
oblique garnet
Well yeah youre alliance
lusty grotto
youre alliance mwahi?
ionic fern
Yes.,
lusty grotto
im not sure im trying to remember
ionic fern
lusty grotto
i probably did but i forgot lol
quiet hornet
Depends on the affixes but this week shrine and siege are tough
oblique garnet
There are less alliance doing pve content
ionic fern
I mean..i have a horde char as well and doing a 15 there is as horrible as on alliance.
😂
lusty grotto
lol
oblique garnet
🤔
ionic fern
It's less about the "less people doing pve content" and more about the "People in the +15 area think they are the hot-shots but don't really know a lot".
Atleast from my experience.
oblique garnet
Oh yeah theres alot of those
They blindly follow some streamer routes and when i come in to tank for them then they start critiquing me for ”how did this tank get to his io is he boosted” and they usually shut up after we 2 chest it
ionic fern
Jeah, it's really bad sometimes. Not to mention all the rage quitters who die to reaping smashes and then just leave.
Cause ofc it's everyone elses fault but his.
😦
crisp pecan
well, i see quit a jump inrequirements + difficulty on 19->20
sick sentinel
Is anyone expecting a Prot nerf in the dps department?
oblique garnet
Its pointless to talk about whats to come
mortal brook
imagine a talent nerf on tclap, 100% dmg to 50% or something
oblique garnet
Bdks were also op for majority of legion
dense flame
You know this season I just started tanking. Been the most fun I’ve had since tomb arms
Prot warrior honesty makes me feel like Thor.
Class fantasy 🥰
modest wedge
pugging is nightmare. i can easily beat +18/+19 keys but i never see public +20 keys. and only had few chances at +20 keys. so lonery without a team :D
quiet hornet
what you do is you add all those people you do 18s with then push keys
Build a network
modest wedge
i have few but MOST of them are looking for tanks because they are dps/heal groups and they have big tank rotation
quiet hornet
Just gotta establish yourself as the most alpha so they invite you over the other tanks
modest wedge
well that. but I dont play as often. work work
ionic fern
Wait, who did you do the run with?
modest wedge
i dont remember all. condoekoe (key holder?), krian, deadlee
ionic fern
Ah, okay.
halcyon fable
Just literally force your way in and take over as main tank. I've done it before, works errytime.
oblique garnet
At this point i dont even care that much about pushing
I try to go for the speed
Doing high keys as fast as possible
ionic fern
Pushing is the only thing i enjoy doing in this game. 😦
oblique garnet
Like sure you can do safe pulls etc etc
But wheres the fun in that
You gotta spice it up
quiet hornet
Some weeks yeh like this one you can pull half a room trash and go fast, next week with bolstering not so much
oblique garnet
This week i tested on a 16 to pull everything thats between the bridge and 3rd boss on fh
So 5 packs
It was spicy
quiet hornet
Slows down dramatically. Tend to not push those weeks
crisp pecan
actually i avoid raids like fuck now
still need them for gear, not now, but next tier
quiet hornet
Tapatio spicy or Habanero spicy?@oblique garnet
oblique garnet
It was extra spicy with some hot sauce because we were at 59% when pulling that so we got 2 reaping waves back to back xD
quiet hornet
Ok so eye watering burning butthole spicy got it
oblique garnet
Well i had no issues in staying alive but the rest of the group got harpooned alot
sick sentinel
Man it's so fun playing my prot
But holy shit, I could leave one group and join another just as fast
Oh
My
God
crisp pecan
it is easy to enjoy FOTM class :d
sick sentinel
Wouldn't be my first lol
Taught a god damn rogue how to play rogue, as a feral
Although my methods tend to be a litte, harsh
ionic fern
I had issues staying alive only on one pull this week..it was in WM 21 where we pulled the triple witch + double captain + 2 guards + reaping midway through
Was spooky.
oblique garnet
Oh yeah thats spicy even on lower keys
We would have been fine but the healer got clapped with the entire force of reaping wave due to mispositioning xD
ionic fern
That's harsh. 😄
oblique garnet
It was
Im not a teacher who sugarcoats things
I will call you out and point where you failed
Its the best way to learn imo
oblique garnet
Hm? 😅
ionic fern
The things i do from time to time when we're messing around on voice is just astonishing. 😂
So many mistakes have happened just cause we were laughing on voice and i forgot to press a button or diddn't notice something on the ground.
orchid token
sometimes you need to hear something in a very direct way for it to sink in
oblique garnet
^
orchid token
i got that literally this morning for myself
someone i play with a lot hit me with a really fair criticism of my play
and i hadnt thought about it before
that im unpredictable
i tend to tweak my pulls a lot, like if i think of a better way to do something in the moment i just do it
like hey maybe its a good idea to pull those 2 dudes over there with this pull, let's just do it and see
and he pointed out to me that that's great for improving pulls but also makes it a really rough experience in some ways to DPS because you're not always quite sure what's next
something i probably need to fix because now that he says that, im thinking to myself its probably more important to be predictable and consistent than do weird stuff
ionic fern
I mean ofc..DPS'ers also line their CD's up depending on how you've usually pulled.
orchid token
yeah
ionic fern
Well, they should atleast.
oblique garnet
Yeah its annoying to dps because you dont know when to use cooldowns with unpredictable tank
orchid token
and its like, i'd never thought of it and my first instinct was to get defensive about it
like "im just trying to improve constantly"
but
its probably the wrong way to do it
oblique garnet
But i just say giga to my friends and they know i will pull something spicy
orchid token
maybe think of an improvement and then try it next time instead of right there and then
and with some warning/communication
oblique garnet
It usually starts with me telling my healer to get some mana so he knos
Knows
Its about to be big
ionic fern
Come Alliance..never have to wait for healer mana cause Shadowmeld->Drink mid combat. 😂
#AlliancePropaganda
oblique garnet
Id just run nelf warrior
ionic fern
What did you write?
oblique garnet
And everytime i want people to die id jump out and meld and watch the chaos ensue
ionic fern
😂
orchid token
i made mty warrior kul tiran to try it out
but im thinking maybe a dwarf would be a better long term choice
ionic fern
Go test out if you can knock the jumpy guy in KR and the lightning mini boss please.
With the KT racial
sick sentinel
Sometimes the fat can't always protect u maine
ionic fern
Should be able to right? 🤔
oblique garnet
You can
ionic fern
100%?
oblique garnet
Yup
ionic fern
Jeah, it's so good in KR. 😂
sick sentinel
I told him about our talent chocies and how he only has two lines in the tree that he can pick whatever he prefers, also how the burden of being a tank can be a lot of pressure because all eyes are u on if fuck up @ionic fern
oblique garnet
What pressure?
ionic fern
Doing m+ as a new tank can be scary tho..especially now that most people know dungeons and routes etc..so you just get thrown in there without much knowledge of routes and things and DPS'ers go full mong on yoiu.
Everyone just expects you know everything by now
sick sentinel
Yeah I told him that "Knowledge is power"
oblique garnet
Knowledge🤔
ionic fern
Thunder Clap is power.
oblique garnet
Experience is more important
sick sentinel
ionic fern
I sometimes do runs where i just look for a sub 10 key that has been in the que for the longest time and join them as a tank.
The things people get surprised by in there is amazing.
I got called a god yesterday for clearing more trash while waiting for BL to come off CD for a boss.
orchid token
its also your good karma for the week
ionic fern
🤷
sick sentinel
Forgot that, do a heroic for the runes
oblique garnet
My friends and i have this game we play as 4 man group that we look for a freehold key
Doesnt matter if they have people or not
We play the ”Are you willing to kick people” game
sick sentinel
Damn
ionic fern
Taking away the spots of the poor DPS'ers with no score. 😦
oblique garnet
And then we just go without giving any heads up to the guy and blast his key
sick sentinel
I just help out by doing the heroics cause I need my runes, and also people get their dungeon done in less than 10 minutes
oblique garnet
Like yesterday we joined random peoples keys and pulled massively and they were all just helpless grasping to keep up
sick sentinel
Lol
oblique garnet
We met a rogue who couldnt have been more than 14-15 yr old
Judging by the way he typed
austere oar
Did a LFR for Transmog, 40% of raid dps on trash, top 3 dps Every bossses, was fun
languid quest
quick question, does spell reflection reflect grave bolt?
oblique garnet
Yes
ionic fern
^
sick sentinel
Was he like "Mister warrior, can I be uro fwinde?"
oblique garnet
@languid quest but its also consumed by reaping adds melees
languid quest
ohhh
oblique garnet
No he had this addon that everytime he typed it type his real name before
sick sentinel
Oh jesus
oblique garnet
And he was just so surprised because we were doing like packs with bosses reaping with 2 packs etc
sick sentinel
Listen I'd fucking shit the bed too if this God king came in and wrecked house
oblique garnet
Afterwards he just asked me if i wanted to push keys with him
I felt really bad
Because he wasnt good
sick sentinel
"Nah dweeb, ur not cool enough to be part of the football team"
sick sentinel
Lol
oblique garnet
I just told him if he has a freehold key feel free to whisper me
oblique garnet
I just want the fucking parrot and i can quit
sick sentinel
Ur still going for that shit?
oblique garnet
Im at 350 confirmed harlan kills rn
sick sentinel
Lol
oblique garnet
Yeah fuck you mwahi
sick sentinel
I got that one from a failed key
I think it was a +11/12
Either way I was like aw yeah
Time to never fucking use u
I'm just thinking, it's be so god damn hilarious if everyone in this discord got the parrot mount before @oblique garnet
sick sentinel
I got my gmod on our first heroic kill
God I hated the guild so much
Just fucking talking people!
oblique garnet
I quite like the guild im at rn
I just wish they would kill jaina so i could get more raid kills
sick sentinel
I like mines but during mecha I wanted to die
We have a colorblind player SO U KNOW
oblique garnet
”Wrench”
neon tangle
We have one too
austere oar
Lmao late thats exactly what happened to us
neon tangle
But he’s a boss and just had the translation of the colors
austere oar
He had a post it on the screen during the progress
oblique garnet
Rofl
sick sentinel
Problem was that everyone but me forgot to use whatever the fuck we did fornhim
So if we used numbers, if I'm not with him, it's a shit show
If we used images, I mean just kill me
neon tangle
Our dude just had a weak aura
That would day “blue = wrench” and stuff
So we could call it out like normal, and he called out colors
A+ player
sick sentinel
Oh we call out colours by default
austere oar
That's sad cuz it's an interesting mechanic but I guess blizz didnt think about the colorblind
austere oar
Yeah you're right
sick sentinel
Problem is some people just pay attention to the colour and not the shape itself
Which was our problem
austere oar
Colors are much easier to notice tho
modest wedge
2 cock, 3 spring
orchid token
we used spanner, fucked shape, spring, nut, gear
neon tangle
Gear? Maybe?
oblique garnet
Thats a chiken
orchid token
its a gear
neon tangle
Honestly point is, shitty ass icons to quickly call out in a hectic situation
oblique garnet
Rooster or cock or chicken
austere oar
Making in raid communication a part of the strat, well thought
quiet hornet
Purple chicken? Low key racist stuff there ha
oblique garnet
Casual guilds are panicking with mekka
When you get hit by the holy trinity of people whose voices you have never heard and they dont call you out👌🏻
austere oar
Well if they go through what's before
neon tangle
Non-casual guilds also have a pile of people who don’t normally talk
orchid token
mekka is the first boss in a long time that is genuinely really difficult if people in your raid prefer to only listen
we're top 10 oceanic and i still have like 3-4 people who i have only heard their voices on mekka
austere oar
I've raided for more than a year with my guild, first time I heard one of the member speaking was on Ghuun M, 2nd time was on Mekka
neon tangle
Also just to make those shapes even more stupid, the wowhead guide calls 4 a nail
oblique garnet
How the fuck is that nail
quiet hornet
Just replace all your color blind raiders
oblique garnet
It literally has the dent where you put the screwdriver in
Dunno whats it called in english
austere oar
And the spirals
oblique garnet
But that is not a nail
neon tangle
Some UX person just had a stroke from this conversation
Also obvious that blizzard had color blind people as a major after thought
austere oar
Were there the symbols during the beta tests ?
neon tangle
I think so
weary nacelle
Might have been discussed already, but based on the mdi and the meta, do you guys expect nerfs to the prot warrior in the near future?
orchid token
impossible to say
ionic fern
Looking at Blizzards history with things like these - yes. But don't go overboard with it for now. Nothing's been announced.
neon tangle
It’s also very likely to stay this way until 8.2
oblique garnet
Might also not even need a nerf if s3 affix doesnt cater to prot warriors strengths
torn gust
Also depends on what they'll nerf or how they will do it
Indeed reaping was perfect for prot, but ghuunies was awkward xith clapping
neon tangle
@oblique garnet it’s almost like s1 was all about control and the control tank was good, and s2 is all about AoE so the AoE tank is good
oblique garnet
Pretty much
But if you want a safe pick that does similiar numbers of damage as prot go guardian
ionic fern
Imo the safest tank you can ever play regarding balancing is Prot paladin.
neon tangle
That’s my guess
ionic fern
They are almost always on the top of the middle tanks. 😂
neon tangle
Is a little UF nerf
oblique garnet
Probably nerf to AM tbh
ionic fern
Avatar out of AM.
Easy fix.
Blizzards way of balancing and removing fun at the same time.
quiet hornet
Dont give them any ideas
They’ll pull a sub rogue and remove thunderclap
From the game
remote tusk
Just keep as is and buff other classes slightly.
oblique garnet
If they nerf am even a little that would be good but completely removing avatar from it would be a mistake
ionic fern
I mean, i also hope they go with just doing stuff to UF instead.
Would make most sense.
neon tangle
Prot warrior long term worries me, I still wouldn’t want one of their damage was similar to the other tanks
weary nacelle
i'm sorry, but what is AM?
ionic fern
Anger Management.
weary nacelle
ah
oblique garnet
Id play classic if it wouldnt be garbage
ionic fern
In this situation atleast..can also be Active Mitigation (Shield Block, Shield of the Righteous, Demon Spikes etc).
Throw classic away and reboot Legion
oblique garnet
Theres way too many QoL changes missing
Just remake it into wotlk
Which had it all
And imo best raids
ionic fern
"Oh, want to do a dungeon? Sorry, gotta walk to the stone since no dungeon finder".
austere oar
Hey let's have 1 viable spec per class
oblique garnet
Hey thats warrior
umbral forge
Sounds like dk
oblique garnet
In m+?
ionic fern
Yeah
oblique garnet
Yikes
ionic fern
Fury is like a poor mans outlaw rogue.
But a lot more fun to play.
So i enjoy it.
😄
remote tusk
Maybe raise the Rage from 10 to 15 per 1 second of reduction.
austere oar
Inb4 blade flurry gets removed
remote tusk
Blade Flurry is Sweeping Strikes without the drawbacks.
ionic fern
Give Fury a talent like Blade Flurry see what happens.
remote tusk
Honestly, I can see a trait that will add +X target(s) to Whirlwind's cleave effect and increase damage of Whirlwind itself.
Maybe on the HoA or whatever they plan to stick it on
ionic fern
They would be wayyyy over the top.
oblique garnet
Yup
Even with removing the cap and then reducing the damage after 4-5 targets hit it would be busted
quiet hornet
They’d just put a cd on Whirlwind at that point
Then fury wouldn’t be as fun anymore, fuq that.
ionic fern
Jeah, that's why i enjoy Fury. There's always buttons to smash.
Even tho i suck at fury
quasi ice
Rolling my first 415 azerite piece tomorrow morning. Any recommendation on what slot to do first?
sick sentinel
I agree with shoulders
quasi ice
Noted. Might lean toward chest/head first simply because I pulled 400 mechatorque shoulders from weekly whereas I only have 390 pieces in the other slots but I'll look at my options and adjust accordingly
unborn island
Shoulders are usually the best one - most of the ones you can roll are good
IDK about 400 vs 390
so not sure
quasi ice
The 400 shoulders will be bumped to my fury set if I go that route depending on what I get
My warrior is like 3rd on my priority list for gearing toons so if I get a dud oh well but I appreciate your input!
verbal sandal
Anyone here playing alot of M+ and can tell me a little bit about statsprio .. all i read is that i should stack up on haste and then go for versitility but the highest M+ prots all have 2-4% vers and stacking way higher on haste?
Should i just focus on haste and nothing else, with vers or mastery as secondary?
old zephyr
One of the best chest is BoD first boss so i'd avoid rolling that as well if possible
@verbal sandal Ilvl is what matters
then if you can chose you go for haste first
and probably crit or mastery second
oblique garnet
Its all about that crit life for m+
You dont need mastery that much if you have 3x BoM
verbal sandal
ofcourse ilvl is prio, but im having 3-4 items same ilvl.. need to choose
and also i need to target items that i want, but then i need to know exactly what items are the prio for me
if its haste/vers ring or vers/haste
or even haste/mast
quiet hornet
Something something haste Crit for faster and stronger claps
oblique garnet
The beauty of prot is that you can go for whatever there are no bad stats for m+
verbal sandal
i just want to do aloot of fucking damage, and not die.. isnt that a plan?
brisk rain
is it worth going IF on prot, it did 1% of my dmg on motherlode 17
modest wedge
it gives defence too
brisk rain
i could have bloodsport in its place
sick sentinel
1% is not bad
modest wedge
if you value offence/defence trait go for it
oblique garnet
Lul bloodsport
quiet hornet
Hnnnnnngh
verbal sandal
so ... answer to my question is that statswonder doesnt matter 🤔
for prot
just go for w/e
sick sentinel
there are choices you can do
oblique garnet
Haste is nice always
sick sentinel
on same ilvl pieces
verbal sandal
im wondering what stats will get me what i want.. alot of aoe, but taking steady damage and not rollercoaster
my thoughts was on vers/haste
sick sentinel
if you want to do massive aoe dps
oblique garnet
Well steady damage intake comes from your own play more than your stats
verbal sandal
but then i see all those high m+ having haste/mast
sick sentinel
you go crit/haste
modest wedge
ive had bad luck with stats i have like 20% vers but it does not matter i blast like any other prot
verbal sandal
well Late ofcourse, but stats help with cds and size of IP etc
oblique garnet
all those doing high keys dont actually do that much damage tho
verbal sandal
alright i think im going to drop some of the vers for crit
see how it fairs
even been gemming vers
oblique garnet
Why
oblique garnet
Or crit if you have enough
verbal sandal
aye, just dropped haste gems for vers this week
sick sentinel
overall in an mplus
verbal sandal
all i see is "monkaS" .. while not realizing what you mean 😃
but yeah
only a few weeks since i rolled that warrior
sick sentinel
yeah I can see
verbal sandal
thanks haha
sick sentinel
that wasn't an jab at you or anything don't take it as such 😛
you need more haste
and you need to focus on getting more azerite pieces with the bastion on might trait
it's super important for mplus dps
verbal sandal
okay, i had 21% but i dropped it down.. Pawn reccomending vers and something ive been reading
yeah true
sick sentinel
uninstall pawn
verbal sandal
haha im not using it.. it was just a guidline
sick sentinel
it is one of the worst things you can do for gearing your character
like get rid of it
somber ferry
what do you guys think of the talent choices of my dear warrior tank?
top fucking kek
modest wedge
@somber ferry puke
oblique garnet
Bis Talents actually
sick sentinel
@versed blade is that your raid azerite or your mplus azerite
what do you focus on mainly
versed blade
Raid
austere oar
Jes is meh
sick sentinel
jes is good for raids
versed blade
What would u recommend instead of jes
austere oar
i'm playing everchill + DLRP
sick sentinel
yeah but the guy said he focuses mainly on raids @austere oar
I am not going to tell anyone to go everchill on a raid
austere oar
well yeah that was my setup for M progress but I guess Jes is safer
modest wedge
everchill is pure damage any trinket that gives stat instead of pure damage is better than everchill
stat also gives defence
like block
versed blade
What is dlrp?
sick sentinel
@versed blade your gear is pretty good ( I will assume you are wearing your highest ilvl) if you want to get a better trinket for mplus the trinket from atal or waycrest manor are 2 very good options as well as the vial of animated blood in underrot
versed blade
I have that spore pod trinket from underrot
versed blade
Alright
sick sentinel
also for mplus if you can afford it you want as many Bastion of Might traits on your gear as you can
austere oar
I would go bloodrite more than Bloodsport on chest tho
versed blade
What about as far as traits go?
sick sentinel
traits are good
prot traits>general traits for general defense, except your second deafening crash or maybe callous reprisal
whole coral
Yo Guys, i’m gonna tank mythic stormwall blockade tonight. Any good tips for tanking it?
sand relic
into the fray or punuish for m+
Im new to tanking and just wanna get the good talents for m+
sick sentinel
@sand relic april fools is over
sand relic
huh ?
sick sentinel
oh you weren't joking
trim bay
Lol
sick sentinel
you never, ever switch off ITF
modest wedge
:D
austere oar
@whole coral Tell your raid to pack on you during P1 on boat (i was left boat)
modest wedge
read guides
sick sentinel
sick sentinel
you can use stormbolt over rumbling earth
sand relic
ok ty
sick sentinel
but that's the only choice you get
sand relic
everything else is wjhat i named right
i like last expansion when we didint have to use devastate
i hate how we use that again
its awful
sick sentinel
you will get used to it
sand relic
does thunderclap n revenge have higher priority over dev ?
sick sentinel
its explained in the guides
modest wedge
i dont think he read the guides 👀
sick sentinel
lol
austere oar
lmao
sick sentinel
do your key then take some tiime to look at the guide
modest wedge
no words
austere oar
what strat 2 nd boss Fh doing it rn
modest wedge
speaking of. Do we have a new tanking spot for first boss in FH?
versed blade
I can’t believe you guys are doing 19s and higher
I just do like 12 max
What do you get from 19 and up?
sick sentinel
more gear
ionic fern
Well that's shit RNG on the rogue there if all the shots went on him. 😦
sand relic
tankling a +2 FOR THE FIRST TIEM
sick sentinel
was full health
sand relic
LOL
sick sentinel
and with stamina flask
versed blade
Holy crap like 7 pieces
ionic fern
Feels bad.
sick sentinel
dead
versed blade
Wow
austere oar
you get glory sean
versed blade
Haha
sick sentinel
I do mplus for the goodboy points
sand relic
I GOT 5 TOONS 405+ MY WARRIOR ONLY 365
versed blade
What’s the mentality when tanking that high a key?
ionic fern
"I wonder if i can pull this and get away with it".
versed blade
Just survive or you guys focusing on dmg?
austere oar
will I be first dps on details
sick sentinel
1)avatar
2)thunderclap
3)look at dps metter
austere oar
if not, should I pull more
modest wedge
if you have 410 gear you can pretty much go ham with +18 keys. dont even need decent healer
versed blade
You doing have issues with getting smashed by shit?
modest wedge
any higher than that it matters
ionic fern
Eeh.
I'm stuck with 413 and i'm doing 20's without issues.
austere oar
press SB
be invincible
versed blade
Can u link ur toon?
sand relic
WHO ME
sand relic
how high can i tank at 370 ilvl?
versed blade
The god tanks
sick sentinel
"the god tanks" lol
versed blade
Haha
sick sentinel
we are just normal guys dude
modest wedge
gachiBass
versed blade
I just want to improve myself past where I am to you guys point
oblique garnet
All you have to do is play tbh
ionic fern
All you have to do is find a consistent group*
ionic fern
🤷
sick sentinel
yeah don't do that
austere oar
well imo the key point in any m+ dungeons is knowing how you're gonna run it
oblique garnet
Also kage is a depleter 8) cant even time fh LUL
austere oar
you're the tank, you are dictating the pace
ionic fern
Idk, running with a consistent group makes everything like 10 times easier since the DPS'ers know the pulls and the healer is already familiar with your damage intake
And what you can and can't do.
versed blade
I just use the same build from raiding for mythic+
oblique garnet
Mwahi except i dont know what im gonna be pulling next so how can my dps know
versed blade
Never really had anyone to Emulate for m+
oblique garnet
But it all depends on moving parts
potent anvil
I missed the timer for UR+22 by mere seconds and WCM+22 by like a minute 😞
oblique garnet
A.k.a where the patrol is etc
ionic fern
Dw Deswind, i missed WM+21 by 3s
sick sentinel
wait why in the nest?
oblique garnet
Missed one on 19 siege by 2s 😪
versed blade
Just go to the higher scoring prot warriors
versed blade
Does it matter what dungeon I look up on raider.io to find prot warriors I can learn from?
unborn island
How do you guys approach teeming in AD when you don't know which packs are going to spawn?
unborn island
Do you plan to kill/skip certain teeming sstuff?
oblique garnet
Just wing it
ionic fern
Well, the left & right
unborn island
yeah, if you skip all of them, don't you need to kill the pack in middle to get the %?
oblique garnet
The middle pack is easy on non fort
ionic fern
Jep.
prisma echo
i do like 15 AD this reset
oblique garnet
Pretty much
prisma echo
to farm trinket
oblique garnet
Why bother
prisma echo
if you are doing pugs dont bother skipping
oblique garnet
Farm waycrest
prisma echo
go full trash kill they are easy
oblique garnet
Much better
unborn island
yeah, that's true
prisma echo
Waycrest Trinket?
oblique garnet
Yup
unborn island
the only thing I've skipped this week has been the pack before volkaal
because I dislike it
ionic fern
o.o
unborn island
but if I was doing higher keys that 15 then other skips would be more meaningful
oblique garnet
I wanna see how badly that pack hurts on 20 fortified tbh
Just go full mongo charge into it and kill the totem
potent anvil
I think i farmed like 40 or so waycrests this past week only to get a 405 block lol. At least its an upgrade 
sick sentinel
upgrades
ionic fern
There's only 2 hard packs in AD this week tho if you skip.
The one down stairs after Volkaal with 4 steathy boys and casters and skeletons and then the big ass pull before the Priestess boss.
sand relic
is tomorrow keys affixes going to be hard
oblique garnet
”Hard”
oblique garnet
???
unborn island
prisma echo
You are talking about Gore Cruster trinket?
oblique garnet
What
ionic fern
Priestess is meh but still harder than other packs there.
unborn island
I don't get a valid opinion because I don't do high enough keys
ionic fern
The one down stairs? Cause we get reaping with it + multiple skeletons + 4 stealth boys + 2 casters.
unborn island
I quite like the one down stairs
ionic fern
Jeap.
oblique garnet
Yeah that would do it
unborn island
the clappage would be real
sand relic
Im 370 ilvl how high u think i can do at this ilvl ?
unborn island
I actually really hate sanguine now
oblique garnet
10
sand relic
im being serious
unborn island
WM and TD with sanguine 🤢
oblique garnet
This is assuming you know how to play prot
sand relic
Im being serious how high at 370 ilvl cause i wanan do ebforte reset
ionic fern
If you know how to play the class decently - what @oblique garnet said.
unborn island
10 is realistic
oblique garnet
It is a realistic answer
unborn island
especially if you get people in the group who are like 400+
sand relic
370 is what mythic 0 drops
oblique garnet
Yes
sand relic
cant see how i can do a 10
oblique garnet
Easily
ionic fern
Okay, if you're new to prot warrior & | don't know the dungeons then you should lower the 10 to maybe like 8
oblique garnet
^
sand relic
thats assumiong i have a god healer and big dps
oblique garnet
Nope
sand relic
im saying if i have mediocre people
unborn island
on 10 this week nothing hurts that much
ionic fern
The 370 ilvl from m0 is just a catchup mechanic so people can get alts geared faster.
unborn island
plan - wait until tonight
find a group which is doing a +10 for weekly
tank it, get Bwonsamdi buff
then nice chest tomorrow
you might not time, but you can certainly do it
oblique garnet
+10
sand relic
cause its so hard to get in group with low io
oblique garnet
Ez
sand relic
i hate u
oblique garnet
Push your own key
oblique garnet
Huh?
sand relic
at 370 i wont evne get invited
oblique garnet
Skill>ilvl
sick sentinel
@sand relic do your own key
quiet hornet
Only you can decide if you feel comfy pushing 10s
ionic fern
@sand relic . Doing dungeons on time depends on multiple factors
Your group DPS, your group healer, do you know the route , do you know what to interrupt and what to let through on casts - do you know what's deadly, what's not?
Can you play your class decently? Do you know when you're going to need to use IP instead of SB due to dmg type?
We can't tell you how HIGH of a key you can do since we have legit 0 idea about how you play other than the "i'm 370".
sand relic
I like warrior better
quiet hornet
Only YOU can stop wildfires!
ionic fern
Doing a +10 as 370 is completely doable IF you know how to play your class.
quiet hornet
What mwahi said ^
sand relic
i mean i tanked on warrior last expansion it seesm similar
quiet hornet
Now go eat that horse!
oblique garnet
Just do or do not there is no try
umbral forge
@sand relic
If what you're fighting is slashing, smashing, cutting and piercing you put your shield up.
if what you're fighting is channeling, shouting, burning and freezing use ignore pain
quiet hornet
🖖🏽
umbral forge
is ez good luck
sand relic
o wow i actually got invited to a 5 temple
wasnt expecting that
i been getting declined all day
This warrior is pretty addicting
quiet hornet
Once you thunderclap you never go back
sand relic
u guys recommend red or brown switched for keyboards
Im getting my keyboard today cant decide
umbral forge
brown
sand relic
I want speed switches but they dont have the keyboard i want on sale
So debating between red n brown
Ight cool ty
hyper x alloy fps or corsair k70.
do any of u have a hyper x ?
umbral forge
I like corsair k70
umbral forge
Contact support. They might bend and offer you the deal
sand relic
u have any good weakauras that will help me not waste my shieldblock or ignore pain
i found 1 but not a fan of it
unborn island
There's one in #268491842637660160 I believe which is the one I use
old zephyr
Don't worry about ip too much really
unborn island
Think Marok made it
sick sentinel
I am using blue switches and I am loving them for the past 2 years 🤷
old zephyr
Nah when there is issues, pull bigger to make up for the time lost
sand condor
Pull the entire dungeon
distant crystal
finished a reaping pack at 253K dps in TD today 😍
sand condor
Avatar with 3 BoM
distant crystal
and 2 globs, and a potion, and a 415 vial
sand condor
Yessss
unborn island
did a TD 15 the other day and somehow it bugged and we got the whole of Jes' Howlis floor at once, along with a reaping wave
I have no idea how I didn't die.
we then proceeded to fail to time the key because of barrel fails and the healer getting killed twice by the cannon on last boss without another BR in the group >.<
there were many large claps
ionic fern
We had the same bug of pulling the whole Jes's floor at once on our 2 20 keys. 😒
distant crystal
the healer tried to suicide by shooting me with the cannon while i SR
limber jolt
Hey Guys
distant crystal
but she accidentally shot the fury warrior lol
limber jolt
some MDI Warri Tanks said Warri Tank Nerf inc?
some insider information
u know something about?
distant crystal
it's not insider information it's just an educated guess
sick sentinel
we will probably get nerfs in 8.2
distant crystal
every group is running prot warr and we do insane dmg
sick sentinel
that's just an educated guess
distant crystal
i think a moderate bastion of might nerf would be reasonable
sick sentinel
there are many ways they can nerf us and we can still stay good but along the line of other tanks
or we can get fucked
you never know, it's blizzard
distant crystal
tbh it would be kinda nice to not be pigeonholed into stacking that trait
otoh, it's kinda nice doing huge burst aoe any time avatar is up 🤷
old zephyr
depend on next seasonal affix really
old zephyr
if its something on the line of 50% of damage you take is now magical, we will get a lot worse without any real change to our class
distant crystal
ehh
all tanks will get a lot worse in that case
and if any of that dmg comes in the form of big reflectable chunks
it's all ogre baby
limber jolt
Reapin is the Reason why Prot Warri op like this with DPS
distant crystal
it's certainly a big factor
limber jolt
think about Infested... if we cant burst like this were not that usefull
distant crystal
but we still pump on your run of the mill big pulls or bosses with lots of adds
limber jolt
Yeah but think about infested
u cant do so big pulls
CAuse in every 3rd grp were 1 infested... and if some dd were slackin u failed the whole run
distant crystal
i mean people still pulled big with infested
but yeah it was more tedious
ccing the infested and then making yourself a big pull of all infested mobs at the end
sand relic
are rogues getting nerfed ?
ionic fern
We don't know if anything is getting nerfed until it's announced by blizzard.
All we can do is guess.
sand relic
oya i actually just tanked a +5 with no issues
i thought u guys were joking around when u said i can tank a +10 at my ilvl
ionic fern
😒
sand relic
i feel like a 7-8 is a bit more reasonable tho. but the 5 went smooth
distant crystal
wait till you experience the joy of avatar + reaping
you'll never play your other toons
old zephyr
I'v seen à dude with 385 ilvl bigpulling à 14 like it was a 0
vapid wyvern
I guess it depend on the whole team
sand relic
ya cause this week is ez
i think soon as reset happens
it will be hard
at low ivls
unborn island
So....Spam infinity dungeons today so you're not low Ilvl next reset - EZ 😃
sand relic
do you guys think this week will be hard to push io with these affixes ?
brisk ferry
@unborn island we had something similar happen in TD, but also Bobby never despawned either. So that was fun
sand relic
cause this week was super ez
unborn island
it's quite easy to push IO this week
I mean, i don't play all that much, and only pug, so my IO is pretty shit, but I think I've gone up like 250 ish points this week
versed blade
Is deafening crash worth it to stack for the dps boost in m+?
unborn island
some say yes, some say no 😃
hollow thorn
Get defensive traits and pull more
sweet kettle
^^
unborn island
depends what keys you're doing etc, think a few of the guys here do it and run like 20s
ionic fern
I'm stacking dc and doing 20's just fine.
But it's up to you what you wanna do..both ways work,i just prefer even more aoe dps.😂
fresh valley
what are the odds i get my 5th bracer in a row from my chest this week?!
weary thorn
as a student of math, I'd put your odds at getting the same set of bracers at greater than 50%
I got my degree from Actiblizzion's fuck you department
open bluff
supposedly it's statistically impossible to even get the same slot 4 weeks in a row
unborn island
Improbable, yes, impossible I would've thought not
long tinsel
I got 3 servant splitters this season
open bluff
so i'd wager your odds are pretty good at avoiding five
weary thorn
I got the same pair of pants back to back, then a different pair the next week.
open bluff
blizz mentioned during the last q&a they have bad luck protection on the weekly chest to mitigate events like that, whether they meant the same slot or the actual items is another story
fresh valley
they said they're working on it*
weary thorn
maybe they will just ban people for getting too many of the same item from the chest. Easiest way to fix the problem is to silence those who might speak out
open bluff
but considering a given slot is slightly more than 10% of the loot table, mathematically the odds are in your favor to get something different every week
open bluff
9 technically
unborn island
the odds of another same next week is 1/13, 1/13^2, 1/13^3, right?
open bluff
no necks, rings/trinkets you each have two of
split plinth
is it still possible to get the prot hidden artifact appearance?
open bluff
yes
unborn island
1/729 to get same slot 4x in a row
open bluff
well that would make it 11, not 9
unborn island
1/6561 to get same 5x
open bluff
so we were both slightly off
umbral forge
Would you guys bring back artifacts and tier sets in favor of what we have now?
open bluff
but yeah, statistically speaking the odds are in your favor to even avoid a single dupe
open bluff
not impossible to go back to back weeks with the same thing, but not likely
(only slightly more likely to get the same slot but different item)
unborn island
then there was the 925 DoS from LFR guldan I guess
I'm getting a 925 version of the AD weapon this week
gotta have a positive mindset 😃
unborn island
925 with socket and Leech, so I can meme hardr
weary thorn
man that 925 is gonna put your ilvl up in to the 500s I bet
you'll be the bees knees of every m+ group
unborn island
hah
925 stuck in my mind from talking about that DoS
although I will happily have a 925 bugged weapon
and 1shot everything
fresh valley
is there a way to see a log of loot i've obtained?
unborn island
think you can see it in the armory
open bluff
warcraft logs shows your activity history up to the last 50 actions (including bosses, dungeons, and achievements)
beyond that you can use the item restore feature if you have one available and you've deleted/vendored/scrapped it
fresh valley
i wanted to look at my actual chest loots the past couple weeks, i know it's been bracers for at least 3
prime sundial
hello ! i just discover this discord 😃 i'm learning to tank (i'm war tank) and i would like to increase my dps. i've changed my hast gem with versatile gem. In your mind is it a good choice ? Will it increase my dps ? Thx for help.
ionic fern
No.
sick sentinel
haste gem will be better dps wise than a vers gem
ionic fern
First and foremost biggest dps increase will be your gameplay. After that you can start worrying about gear.
open bluff
there are zero situations where i would want to prioritize vers over haste
prime sundial
ok so it was better when i used hast gems instead of versatile ?
ionic fern
Yes.
ionic fern
You can also sim yourself with top gear for example trying out different gems.
prime sundial
what do you think about it ?
ionic fern
As long as you prioritize item level your stats will be fine. Just go ilvl>haste>=everything else.
sick sentinel
enchant haste and gem haste
prime sundial
ok thx a lot
i want to increase my dps cause i'm always loosing agro
so i need to improve my gameplay ?
hidden linden
You're probably not doing something properly if you lose aggro on a regular basis
sick sentinel
if you are losing aggro you are REALLY undergeared
unborn island
Does anyone else love the fact that haste in french is 'hate'
unborn island
(admittedly with a circumflex, but it's close enough)
sick sentinel
"is there some form of hate cap?"
prime sundial
â ^^
sick sentinel
"no get angrier"