Homogenized? No way, I like the ladies.
#protection
formal cloud
distant crystal
why healyourself when you could just deal even more aoe dmg when you die tho
tranquil jungle
at least the extra HP makes me a bit beefier
exotic spoke
Because if I’m alive I can do more damage
signal plover
I just love the way that tauren Moove
tranquil jungle
I've heard Goblins are quite nasty creatures, always green with Jealousy
mortal pike
The only bad thing about tauren is helms/boots
distant crystal
being tauren for the last 3 was a major contributing factor in swapping my priest to gnome
clever bronze
I just said that, Execute
tranquil jungle
Undead are all anorexic, all skin and bones
formal cloud
There are some exceptional helms though
clever bronze
Stop stealing my arguments
signal plover
Tauren actually are my favorite race. Just hide helms
formal cloud
Grievous looks amazing on Tauren
mortal pike
No 😃
tranquil jungle
So basically HMT, Zanda or Troll 😄
clever bronze
Wow. How Goblin of you to steal my statements
exotic spoke
Sprky - how can you overlook goblins
formal cloud
Grievous plate hides Tauren horns
clever bronze
The only good goblin is a dead goblin.
strong forum
Bruh goblin is lowkey funny, what do you mean
formal cloud
Goblins are like a flu fart that got turned into a humanoid shape
exotic spoke
You take that back anase skyrider
tranquil jungle
Difference between a Goblin and a Trampoline, is that you take your boots off to jump on the Trampoline
exotic spoke
Whoa.... what is with all this goblin hate?
formal cloud
HATE HATE HATE
strong forum
If I was horde I'd be troll, ztroll, goblin, nightborne or be tbh
formal cloud
FUEL THE HATE MACHINE
exotic spoke
Goblins are people too!
clever bronze
Ve mus eksterminate ze filthy goblin
formal cloud
Roll Goblin if you like seeing the WEAKEST version of your armor set.
exotic spoke
I will not tolerate such blatant racism
tranquil jungle
ok so tauren and Goblin mog is trash
exotic spoke
Probablyriki is a warrior too
clever bronze
Blizzard started the racism! I'm just finishing it!
tranquil jungle
That means Troll or Belf 
formal cloud
Tauren mog is good if you know what you're doing
exotic spoke
1% haste and rocket jump are nice
tranquil jungle
Belfs are too small imo, tanks need to be chunky, not some supermodel in plate 🤔
tranquil jungle
crit as prot 
distant crystal
and that crucial 1% arcane dmg redux
mortal pike
If you could hide/remove horns tauren/HMT would be 👌
tranquil jungle
Arcane Torrent is pretty nice tho
formal cloud
Some helms hide them, Exeeee
mortal pike
I know but most dont
formal cloud
and there are some that dont hide them but blend well
distant crystal
ohh torrent isn't a silence anymore
tranquil jungle
oh no
distant crystal
hold on let me log onto my human to find this punchline
you paint his hooves red
clever bronze
Lol
clever bronze
From now on, can we call this the Noice channel because 'Noitce'torp?
I am, from now on, going to read every message in the noticetorP channel in that same thicc accent
distant crystal
modern brook
the socket is literally better itemization
distant crystal
i guess 40 is a lot of secondaries
lusty grotto
hi friends, are we talking about leech?
distant crystal
leech is a stat
modern brook
fuck u nim
lusty grotto
oh bull gz on yellow
lusty grotto
modern brook
@distant crystal keep the socket
chilly brook
I got jebaited so hard
regal topaz
Wtf is going on
chilly brook
I want to die rn
lusty grotto
look at the date
distant crystal
we are all yellow on this blessed day
chilly brook
Professor emails me last week says project is due today, blackboard showed it as due today so I stay up all night to finish this crap
lusty grotto
got it yesterday
modern brook
dont fucking ping me 😠
chilly brook
And then I find out today it’s actually due Thursday
lusty grotto
bull this is important
signal plover
@modern brook ayyy sup
modern brook
😡
brisk ferry
jesus so many yellows now 
lusty grotto
gz on yellow all
chilly brook
Yea
distant crystal
that's kinda BM april fools
signal plover
It's the golden age lads
brisk ferry
I figured
modern brook
sick fish @lusty grotto btw
signal plover
Or pee age idk
lusty grotto
IT WOBBLES
distant crystal
like it's supposed to be a lighthearted joke
junior ivy
everyones yellow
distant crystal
not trolling you into all-nighters to get assignments done
lusty grotto
oh gz on yellow cat
signal plover
Oh Jesus even catfriend is yellow
junior ivy
that means thyme is yellow again finally
signal plover
Thyme only plays hello Kitty now
modern brook
hello Catfriend
chilly brook
@distant crystal I don’t think it was intended as an April fools joke just a mistake
lusty grotto
do you live in the 2005?
junior ivy
its not new phone its just a shitty phone uintil i get a new one
signal plover
Cuz ur a physical person?
modern brook
physi-buttons are some 2003 shit dude
junior ivy
i like a physical home button 😦
distant crystal
mistakes don't happen on April 1
lusty grotto
my phones havent had physical buttons since.... 8 years?
distant crystal
only fools
junior ivy
just one button
chilly brook
Yea just like physical keyboards
junior ivy
BUT FINE I CNA HANDLE NOT HAVING ONE
signal plover
My hyper leet modern S7 has one physical button
chilly brook
I use a laser keyboard to game
junior ivy
i had a note 8. it broke, now im using a shitty s9 until the note 10 comes out
then ill buy the note 10
signal plover
Note 10 is lit
junior ivy
i love all note phones ❤
lusty grotto
s10 looks sexy tho
chilly brook
Still using my iPhone 6s+
lusty grotto
too bad im pixel masterrace
junior ivy
i hate not having an s pen right now
chilly brook
:pepehands
junior ivy
the s pen is something i actually use multiple times every day
lusty grotto
i said PIXEL MASTERRACE
junior ivy
did you know you can screenshot snapchats with the s pen and the sender wont know?
lusty grotto
ahem
distant crystal
are there like, separate EU and NA realms for MDI
sand condor
No
junior ivy
the s pen is amazing tho
distant crystal
or are one of these teams getting hosed with latency
chilly brook
TBH latency doesn’t mean much in WoW
jovial haven
^
distant crystal
idk man when i tank on OCE servers i kinda want to die
lusty grotto
same
distant crystal
and i usually do
chilly brook
I’m not saying I’d prefer to be on 120ms but it’s not gonna make a huge difference in WoW
lusty grotto
200ms OCE ftl
jovial haven
went into an 11 last week soon as pulled big trash pack ms hit 300 i got deleted LOL
chilly brook
Meanwhile I’m basically wired into the East Coast data center for R6 Siege with my ping sitting at 9ms
lusty grotto
🖕
distant crystal
andc the aussies get offended if i gripe about it
"i play with 200ms on your servers all the time what's the big deal"
jovial haven
a lot of them don't realize if you do it all the time you know how to play that way, if you don't and suddenly get hit with it, it's like having an ingame stroke
lusty grotto
i feel bad for OCE players, they are good
but holy shit that ping i get
same way i feel bad for actual good players in rag/qt/azralon
jovial haven
yea they are some good players, it's unfortunate that there is such a huge ms issue
distant crystal
damned max speed of causality 😐
vocal skiff
As I said the other day, I play with 180 ms all the time
And on Vanilla, 300 ms was good, so 180 is definitely a huge improvement
lusty grotto
🤢
vocal skiff
I cannot imagine what it is like playing minus 50 (or even less) lol
lusty grotto
my 200ms days in vanilla are not to be remembered
vocal skiff
but that's what happens now
lusty grotto
they are left int he past
fresh valley
this guy has the jokes
umbral forge
@lusty grotto excuse me, 50% leech?
ruby sapphire
Who's torp aand why should I notice him?
jovial haven
cus torp is purple name
distant crystal
i was playing quake at 40ms in the 90s lol
gotta find those geographically close servers the next state over
distant crystal
yupppp
narrow abyss
Dating ourselves here
exotic spoke
I’m a millennial by whatever definition they use and I’m 32 >.>
daring marlin
old man
exotic spoke
That’s hurtful guilford
distant crystal
i had a matrox that wasn't even a real 3d card
and then a voodoo3, then i think a tnt2
rough lake
tnt2 was a blast with pentium 3 :p
quartz quail
why do the Spell reflection tracker WA dont work for me ? anyone there can help
lusty grotto
wow tnt2 i remember those
quartz quail
also the Spec there in pin is a troll right ?
signal plover
Sco said it so prolly true spec
quartz quail
hmm
sand condor
Sco isnt even on this disc
jovial haven
you must not have seen him post in general earlier then
lusty grotto
Sco is our god here vic
what are you talking about
@fierce juniper our god
(also Kungen)
psst spec indom guys
quartz quail
nvm cba
lusty grotto
ya its a troll @quartz quail
sick sentinel
IVE BEEN TRICKED
lusty grotto
its not the only one 😦
daring marlin
It’s clipped
lusty grotto
daring marlin
how did it even get you
lusty grotto
felhammer and peak also has it
daring marlin
omegalul
lusty grotto
GOTTEM
sick sentinel
Because I had another notification so my brain auto completes
lusty grotto
mission accomplished ✅
sick sentinel
Also felhammer choose to have that fucking circle hand
sick sentinel
Yea ferals are taking over dk discord lol
sick sentinel
But also dks are pussy
sick sentinel
Oh god lol
lusty grotto
dreamgrove and hammer of wrath didnt do shit
sick sentinel
Because they are either asleep or plain and boring
sick sentinel
"April's fool day isn't funny" don't trust those people
sand egret
nim, you get sekiro yet
lusty grotto
i was gonna this weekend but had to work
lusty grotto
im debating whether i should buy it asap or go for spiderman/re2 first
fuck
i heard it was easier
lusty grotto
ds3 was easy yeah
sand egret
yeah Sekiro is harder than ds3 is my stance
daring marlin
I read it as better
lusty grotto
ok thats good
daring marlin
cuz phone in bed
lusty grotto
if its harder than ds3
daring marlin
and dumb af
sand egret
the neat part is that it's harder specifically for DS players
because it punishes DS habits
sick sentinel
But can it have an easy mode
lime mantle
@lusty grotto please don’t insult the glorious overlord’s minion Kel Thuzad new cat.
They take it very seriously.
lusty grotto
ok ok
sand egret
yeah, that guy is a beast Nim
lusty grotto
also some dude that did the drums thing?
sand egret
yeeep
lusty grotto
or was it the same guy
sand egret
diff guy
lusty grotto
jesus lol
sand egret
heck, they even did a Twitch-Plays one where twitch chat controlled the character by sourced input commands via chat
sand egret
at my office we have a fun setup where we modded one of our RB guitars to just work with a bunch of games in our cabinet
sick sentinel
Man fuck this God damn discord pic
sick sentinel
It keeps getting me and I KNOW ITS NOT REAL
lusty grotto
inr take your ocd pills
frozen dove
What happened to the discord channels?
tropic cove
this is offtopic - but does anyone know a discord/subreddit used for like..WoW related technical issues?
sick sentinel
Idk about discord but maybe Reddit has to have something, also Twitter has the wow tech Twitter page
jovial haven
rallying cry
sick sentinel
how many rallies dude
jovial haven
all the rallies
lusty grotto
Just gear leech kaege
astral path
xP
jovial haven
remember the WoD pot that was like a shield in a jar? wonder how that would work in bfa
sick sentinel
Just don't die 4head
astral path
I want shield spikes back yo...any shield enchant really jeez
lusty grotto
You have IF ;)
high fable
bait the shot on the tank by having everyone stack, that’s current meta
ocean acorn
grats on SF nim
jovial haven
grats on SF Shpicey
ocean acorn
grats on SF WickedSorrow
jovial haven
thanks, it's a nice april 1st here
solid pumice
Quick question, is shield 's ilvl important when taking damage as prot warrior? i have a 400ilvl one. my question is will there be a difference when i get a 415one?
exotic spoke
Yes. It is important.
You “double dip” your mitigation on your shield. Once for armor and once for block (which is based on the armor of the shield)
The increase in survivability will depend upon what content you’re doing. But the general formula is armor {or block value}/ (k + armor {or block value})
old night
so
who t hinks prot is getting nerfed after the mdi
ive had like 8 people ask me what I thought
personally I dont see them doing it
exotic spoke
Yes, but you can say that about damn near all of our item slots. Lol
It’s most important on shields
jovial haven
yes i know, that's why i saved the screen shot lol
exotic spoke
Valid solution
daring marlin
@modern brook sup breh
jovial haven
should have saved one of chips response when people kept asking about fang LOL
heavy chasm
Fang equals scrapper or de
exotic spoke
As for nerfs. I’m divided. Part of me thinks they will because community outrage about the state of us. Part of me hopes not because balancing around top tier cutting edge players is lololol
heavy chasm
If we get a nerf outlaw better as well
Is how I stand because its the exact same shit
jovial haven
if they nerf prot warriors cus mdi, then rogues and druids should too
heavy chasm
Or just bring everyone up lel
old night
theres community outrage over prot
the fuck
it wasnt even 3 months ago people barely considered us a tank
i fucking hate this community sometimes
exotic spoke
Oh how the mob is fickle
jovial haven
but honestly, i would rather them fix the other tanks. blood dk needs traits scrapped and redone, pally is pretty close (just a small tweak) vengeance and bear need help
old night
ty
the thing is
a lot of prot ive encountered can't play it that well, at the end of the day the rotation is still very confusing
exotic spoke
There will always be a best class for a given situation. And at the highest content the players will use that class because it gives them a minor advantage
old night
my healers say "you either come across a shit prot or a good prot"
heavy chasm
There is no middle ground
old night
yep
heavy chasm
It's not really.built that way though
heavy chasm
You either can do it or you cant
jovial haven
a lot of bad prot players are rerollers that haven't taken time to learn it properly
old night
addonskins im assuming
somber ferry
addonskins?
old night
looks like its pulling from KUI
exotic spoke
I don’t use many WA. Sorry can’t help!
old night
i used to use AS when I used KUI but i since scrapped kui entirely for threatplates
jovial haven
i just use WA made by Luxthos
old night
so my WA look like shit but idc
jovial haven
you can use masque addon and get the clean ui one
sand egret
wait, prot outrage? time to take a stroll down reddit perhaps?
exotic spoke
Honestly, don’t really use many mods. My guild mocks me for only running dbm, mdt, ERT and Angry assignments
sand egret
I got details and that's it
jovial haven
i run too many, but it's QoL thing
sand egret
yeah you do you, for sure
woven trellis
Is there a safe spot on boralus 2nd boss when its raining bullets?
exotic spoke
Someone was like “I’m writing this WA that makes playing a prot warrior easier. You want to try it?”
sand egret
naw, just gotta move
jovial haven
there's always open safe spots during that fight, just move to them
woven trellis
It happened to me a few times that while moving, i get stuck in the middle of last zone
exotic spoke
Leap / intervene
sand egret
I generally don't have trouble moving with leap
exotic spoke
Can help
jovial haven
leap to first zone when it clears
sand egret
as a OH SHIT moment
woven trellis
With my dk
somber ferry
think i figured it out
woven trellis
Not leap with dk
old night
@somber ferry wut did u do
old night
@sand egret they h8 us cuz they aint dual shields
somber ferry
think i used the ELVUI package last time
sand egret
well, I hate us cuz we don't haev dual shields
somber ferry
jovial haven
ibf it and move if youre having that much trouble @woven trellis
old night
its april 1st we should be allowed to talk about this shit all day
somber ferry
depending on which package u use
exotic spoke
I would hate having to dual wield shields... I can barely get one to drop every tier
sand egret
although speaking of addons, I did a run with this DH the other day who asked for a /pull timer
told em i dont run dbm so ill just go on their meta
old night
ah
sand egret
and I could hear their mind explode
old night
a bigwigs man i see
sand egret
neither
old night
the fuck
sand egret
i dont use boss mods
sand egret
both stink 😃
old night
NO U STINK
sand egret
i can see it maybe for raids, but for dungeons its pretty unncessary
jovial haven
hey now, it's the first of the month, we all took our monthly showers this mornin
woven trellis
👌
sand egret
i spilled some water on myself but I think i'm just gonna count that
somber ferry
ok yeah
jovial haven
that can work
somber ferry
this looks way better
old night
you wouldn't have had that happen had you had bossmods you plug
look at me
no water on me
sand egret
naw, see I spilled water on myself trying to install the boss mods
it was a divine signal
old night
from the god of dual shields
sand egret
he was like "you really need something to tell you to count to 30?"
and i was like "naw fam, i'm gucci"
exotic spoke
Yeah, if you had a boss mod installed it would have told you the water spill cooldown was coming up
sand egret
dbm caused the spill. everything else is alternative facts.
jovial haven
would have told you "RUN AWAY LITTLE GIRL, RUN AWAY"
old night
get good
jovial haven
grats @sick sentinel
exotic spoke
Lol
neon tangle
I got a flu on ez week
jovial haven
so you're at 200 io?
old night
neon tangle
and my score has remained garbage
sand egret
i took a break from Sekiro and did some keys and this week is an absolute joke
neon tangle
but still better than yours ❤
sand egret
definitely push it if you can
old night
push it to the limit?
sand egret
only if and ONLY if
exotic spoke
Highway to the... danger zone
sand egret
you're walking along the razor's edge
exotic spoke
My io is only 1960. Can I get a fucking AD key... do they exist?
exotic spoke
Also, freehold and KR
neon tangle
my life is nothing but KR
exotic spoke
Because those are my lowest. Only 15/16s
oblique garnet
You dont want kr this week
exotic spoke
Correct late. I’m just saying in general I never see them.
I’ve only had one AD in the past 5 weeks and it wasn’t even in my group. Out of the 50ish keys we’ve had we haven’t seen one AD at a respectable level
ocean acorn
ya my lowes key is AD
no one in my grp ever get thats shit
and my highest is temple
which is kinda weird
exotic spoke
Temple isn’t bad. I enjoy it. Could be because of reflecting cyclone strike
Siege 20 failed by like 8 is my best
fresh valley
KR just sucks regardless of the week.
exotic spoke
Good luck - don’t forget they changed the first boss
hardy needle
anyone wanna run TD 14 with me? Was a 16 and got downgraded twice cause the tank left halfway through
hardy needle
@sick sentinel show me the way place
ocean acorn
ppl say u can tigers lust the blackout barrel is that correct?
sick sentinel
when you are dodging the cones try to face him
@hardy needle in #148872210742771712 there is a link to the mythicplusfriends discord
hardy needle
ah thanks
oblique garnet
He just randomly hits you in the back even though youre facing him
sick sentinel
@ocean acorn I know you can shapeshift them
ocean acorn
i usually leap behind eudora every grapeshot
oblique garnet
He has some sort of heat seeking punches or smth
exotic spoke
Wait... who we talking about?
sick sentinel
fat boy on second boss freehold
exotic spoke
Ahhhh
ocean acorn
barrel boi in council of captains
exotic spoke
Yeah, fuck that guy
outer dew
ocean acorn
kk
sick sentinel
@exotic spoke what changed on the first boss?
exotic spoke
You can’t tank him in certain spots because his reset area was changed
People basically stood outside the circle at max range to ignore an ability.
Two actually I believe. That doesn’t work anymore and will reset the boss if I recall correctly
sick sentinel
No i don’t think so, the ranged can still stay outside
exotic spoke
I don’t think so, especially since they nerfed bonded souls
lethal delta
oh they did? aight thank you.
exotic spoke
Really arixou. I heard there are issues now.
oblique garnet
Ranged can stay outside on p2
But i will kill any ranged that does that because it will cause the greenshit to drop to melee since most healers cant bother baiting
sick sentinel
So new talent setup is impending victory for extra heals so you can never need healing (prot's only weakness)?
Indominatable for extra hp so you can live
Through bursting?
And ravager to confuse opponents by making them dizzy?
somber ferry
no dude
modern brook
who the fuck at'd me on today the day of no atting.
somber ferry
impending victory was given to demon hunters
neon tangle
You can't have an impending victory if you already won
and prot warrior already won the m+ meta
somber ferry
when prot gets nerfed
warriors will be the worst class in the game
hands down
unless they give fury some fucking utility
like shockwave baseline
supple path
It's going to be ugly.
somber ferry
or something
yea it will
ive mained warrior for 7 years
this is the first time im playing my alt more than my warr
neon tangle
It's almost like making 1 tank do 50% more AoE damage is a bad way to balance things
april fools, we're playing a blizzard game
supple path
Yeah - we're balanced by a number being higher, and Blizzard loves changing those numbers.
somber ferry
but i do like the way prot plays
wiht weaving shield blocks and LS
to have 100 % block uptime
neon tangle
Mainly it's just -one- tank that does more, everyone else is pretty close to each other
oblique garnet
The tank damage in m+ goes Prot>Guardian>Paladin>Vdh=DK
this is not an aprils fools
sand egret
I'd Swipe right on that stack ranking
neon tangle
@oblique garnet Can I play bear yet?
oblique garnet
its time
long tinsel
Are they doing away with azerite in 8.2?
sand egret
-_-
neon tangle
@long tinsel if not joking, no, az remains
you just will always have it fully unlocked
neon tangle
and you'll have a neck with a talent tree type thing, similar to the legion weapons
long tinsel
It seems azerite traits are a large reason on why prot is so overpowered rn
sand egret
those will remain
supple path
Our class-specific DPS traits are just superior to other tanks' DPS traits it feels yeah.
grand drum
Member when dc didnt have a cap?
neon tangle
@long tinsel AZ will remain a "pick your own set bonus"
so prot will still be good in that regard
modern brook
xd
supple path
Yeah, though I also member the 7 buffs we got at the same time it was nerfed at least.
long tinsel
The stacking of BoM and DC in the MDI is so ridiculously unnecessary
sand egret
AFAIK 8.2 = a final "level" of azerite gear so you'll hit a cap. Once at that cap you'll do a thing and that'll make the neck itself an "azerite piece" in the sense that you unlock shit in it through some undisclosed means
ionic fern
What?
long tinsel
From a balance point of view
neon tangle
I don't imagine that prot would be in the MDI without those
sand egret
BoM maybe
neon tangle
If you made prot do as much damage as BDK/Pally/Monk I expect you'd take those for the utility
sand egret
but the MDI is about optimizing certain playstyles
digital frigate
Hello.
oblique garnet
you would probably still play prot
digital frigate
Thanks to your guys help I am now 8/9 heroic. Is there a tank POV for Jains that may be more popular?
modern brook
REaping is about Mongo AoE
oblique garnet
it allows healers to do more damage anyways
modern brook
because u fight trashed twice
Prot is meta because we have good mongo aoe
thats it
long tinsel
Yeah I'm not arguing that
modern brook
take away uf and we're replaced by pally in a heart beat
sand egret
prot has too many scaling factors. This was bound to happen at some point in the expansion, BoM just expedited this
neon tangle
@oblique garnet Sorta disagree, BDK wasn't a mitigation king in 8.0 but they did great in dungeons regardless
long tinsel
And they had the utilities that other tanks don't
modern brook
these are some reddit takes, is all im saying
oblique garnet
@neon tangle because bdk in 8.0 did not need as much healer attention
sand egret
they had utilities that worked for the M+ scene
oblique garnet
and also infested
sand egret
at the time
neon tangle
@modern brook the amount that bonestorm would keep you alive was pretty over estimated
oblique garnet
so you had to cc mobs and separate them
sand egret
Late's got it
neon tangle
not nearly as many yuuuuge pulls in s1
oblique garnet
yeah
sand egret
kiting was wayy more important early on
oblique garnet
now its all about doing massive pulls
sand egret
and a 90% slow on DnD helps
long tinsel
Do we expect a s3 affix to change prot?? Probably not
neon tangle
unlimited bonestorm would be great in s2
sand egret
now it's like....how can we kill all the things the fastest?
old night
the reddit mdi discussion thread has me fuming
modern brook
why would the seasonal affix change prot
modern brook
will it change its usefulness - yes
neon tangle
huge pulls and way bigger health pools
long tinsel
Just saying what Reddit is saying
supple path
Nothing makes people want a tank nerfed more than beating DPS on meters.
long tinsel
It won't change it
modern brook
reddit is redditarded
neon tangle
point is really, if you look at damage intake prot -already- took less damage than a BDK in s1, logs don't lie
old night
ive come to realize that 90% of reddit players are extreme casuals
neon tangle
but taking less damage isn't the point
neon tangle
"taking less damage" lower EHRPS
long tinsel
Reddit players are all BDKs
sand egret
@long tinsel if s3 affix turns a random party member to "hostile" (but can still attack your enemies, just becomes prone to friendly fire. Like ya know...the main theme of Old God shit in CotS)....then you bet your ass people may not want that mongo clapper gibbing their melee 😃
neon tangle
@supple path prot had a lower EHRPS than BDK in s1
sand egret
so it can be quite relative
sand egret
who's to say i'm not speaking from a source 😃
oblique garnet
s3 affix will probably have some sort of tsunami wave coming in randomly that you have to los like the 3rd boss in siege
calling it here first
neon tangle
point is, healing required isn't what makes or breaks a tank, it's generally the shit around it
woven trellis
i rerolled warprot, have no idea on how much it scales with ilvl, but i find myself taking a lot of damages while tanking 11+ with my ilvl 392. (shield 375), i m a very analytical person and i think i play it correctly enough ( when you compare to another reroller) but i wanted to know if you think ilvl 392 is that bad and justify how much i take, or if i maybe do lots of bad stuff
supple path
Is that factoring in that BDKs would you know, not facetank because of their ranged attacks/snares?
sand egret
you're doing something wrong Grab
oblique garnet
@woven trellis your shield is pretty bad
old night
@woven trellis you're def doing something wrong rotation wise
sand egret
(no offense)
sand egret
yeeep
woven trellis
because i can do 6
supple path
It's all about CD management.
woven trellis
but7+ become harsh
neon tangle
@supple path no, just flat out sitting there taking damage, prot took less, kiting certainly works in favor of BDK
long tinsel
Yeah i totally agree with that. I'm just saying people are expecting a nerf whether it's a trait nerf or a ability nerf but i don't think warriors will go anywhere in the m+ scene since the dynamic of m+ is kill as much shit as you can in the quickest time
old night
you should be able to take all of reaping and maybe another small pack of mobs
woven trellis
i can do that
delicate urchin
any cool tactic for kicks without voice on first underrot boss? (2 mele)
modern brook
🤷 maybe some kind of 5% nerf to the efficacy of vanguard
woven trellis
not 3 mob
modern brook
that'll bring us in line
woven trellis
but 3 pack
sand egret
I do think they're going to nerf UF
old night
are you spamming IP?
woven trellis
yes i do
old night
don't do that
sand egret
100% scaling is dumb
neon tangle
@sand egret inb4 it's 75% extra damage to TC
supple path
@delicate urchin A macro that says, "SPELL REFLECTING NEXT DON'T KICK IT YOU MONGOLOIDS" that you hit 10x in a row as required.
sand egret
it will be
old night
IP is filler
old night
and rage dump
sand egret
even if they end up buffing revenge
woven trellis
o rlyÉ
old night
SB uptime is critical, rage dump into IP
woven trellis
?
sand egret
but TClap has got to get clipped
neon tangle
honestly that would put prot pretty close to the other tanks
modern brook
@woven trellis read the guide
neon tangle
still ahead AoE wise, middle of the back ST wise
modern brook
thorn fiber
If anything deserves a nerf due to MDI is rdruid. Since inception of MDI rdruid has been top heals
woven trellis
i read that i should use IP as much as i can
neon tangle
would still prolly be kings of s2
modern brook
then reread the guide
old night
you definitely didnt read the guid then
neon tangle
Rdruid and rogues man
old night
it is one of the first things it says about IP
woven trellis
are we talkin about the wowhead one?
long tinsel
@woven trellis all the tine
neon tangle
tbh rdruid is -partly- meta because of prot
old night
^^
neon tangle
someone needs a brez
modern brook
.>
old night
also don't stack SB with last stand
woven trellis
well sure i USE SB first
modern brook
sad i can see u on some tank discussions
supple path
Rdruid is meta because of best healer utility combined with best healer dps and oh right close to best healing.
modern brook
but rdruid is meta because its got damage and hots
brez is icing
prot has nothing to do with it
neon tangle
@modern brook Just a small part 😛
thorn fiber
Yeah to strong not to mention bearform to tank something although not as strong as it was or has been but still.
oblique garnet
rdruid is king beause of how much healing output it puts out with how little mana it uses
neon tangle
but yeah, disc getting nerfed, coupled with it's good coupling with BDK
supple path
The rdruid kit combines its heal over times with its damage over time abilities in a very smoothflowing way that other healers don't really get.
they're way more of a binary "Dps OR heal" choice
old night
@woven trellis are you tracking your ignore pain and ignore pain ceiling. If you clip your IP you're wasting rage and not using your mitigation to it's fullest
neon tangle
@modern brook you are right tho, every time I get a rdruid it feels like night and day compared to the other healers
woven trellis
nono im trackin it
neon tangle
just "oh wow you have mana"
woven trellis
no problem abt that
long tinsel
The way MDI is set up plays into prot outlaw and resto kits
old night
are you prioritizing sb over IP?
woven trellis
yes
oblique garnet
@old night youre not wasting rage even if you cap ip
modern brook
how much are u moving grabuge
long tinsel
@woven trellis you got logs or something?
modern brook
^
oblique garnet
the more rage you spend the better
sand egret
its not efficient but not a waste
woven trellis
i move quite a lot, prolly 2 much
old night
@oblique garnet im mainly getting at like, spamming IP over everything
neon tangle
@modern brook You know what is important though
modern brook
Like we can sit here and re-iterate the guide to you, but if ur convinced ur doing everything right we need more to work with
neon tangle
I finally got grongs on my BDK
sand egret
but my first suspect is backhits
old night
personally if my ceiling is 71k and im at 68k about to rage cap i'll hard cast a revenge or something
sand egret
baaaack hits 😃
old night
i generally try not to clip if I can avoid it
thorn fiber
I find if I clip IP I get truck as I punished my rage gen
modern brook
gratz!
woven trellis
but one thing i noticed, anyway is that when i use IP with more than 6 mob, IP is fully used in like less than 2 sec
neon tangle
shit is so broken for BDK
old night
@woven trellis moving has nothing to do with it
modern brook
@woven trellis thats cuase u dont have sb up
old night
^^
woven trellis
well SB cant be up 100%
sand egret
@old night it could have everything to do it if he’s getting hit in the back by mobs.
old night
it totally can or damn near close to it
supple path
When you're tanking 3+ packs or whatnot, you plan on having a CD active (shield block or bolster) at all points or else you're kiting
old night
true blade, didnt think of that
thorn fiber
SB x 3 then LS and your 3 SB should be back up.
sand egret
thats my first guess tbh
modern brook
I've watched way too many new tanks kite with a full turn around
old night
3 shield blocks? you mean 2?
sand egret
lol
neon tangle
I think he played BDK previously, maybe not used to strafe kiting as much 😛
supple path
3rd cools down during duration of first 2 with reasonable haste values
woven trellis
3?
long tinsel
Honestly i rarely kite
somber ferry
then u LS
modern brook
1st charge cd ends as the 2nd comes off
old night
oh that one
somber ferry
then u have 3 SB again
old night
I was like, the fuck azerite trait is that
modern brook
We dont have to we have ashield @long tinsel
long tinsel
Yeah exactly
supple path
Kiting is for when you have multiple packs on you and are covering a gap in your active mitigations
long tinsel
I'll just shield wall in that case
supple path
yeah it wouldn't be a gap in that case
woven trellis
but i think ure right, i mean i do what to say, but probably too approximatively
thorn fiber
Depending on haste there is a 3 sec gap where you shockwave or leap away to cover the fap
woven trellis
ill track SB uptime better
and find more haste
i lack haste
my stuff is pretty new
sand egret
if you’re tanking 7 mobs and one just gets free-unblocked hits to your back you’re gonna get recked
long tinsel
Meh str and Stam is more important than haste
old night
honestly @woven trellis i really think you need to check the guide again for priorities. It seems like you might have skimmed through it or something. Priorities for this rotation are critical. If you slip out of it or rage starve yourself you're basically fucked
modern brook
^
old night
also I'd recommend khakha's prot warrior WA
sand egret
your choices matter as prot
old night
modern brook
Like i said earlier; if you're positive ur doing everything right, log a fight
thorn fiber
Lepan has a guide on wowhead explaining the low haste and shield block caps too
sand egret
barf
modern brook
we can point out ur mistakes p ez then
long tinsel
Log a dungeon and then come back here
old night
its a difficult rotation for sure. Don't immediately jump into 11's expecting the class to carry you.
woven trellis
ill do that in the future, what exactly is the use of Khakha?
old night
start low and build up. once the rotation clicks you'll be good
it's just a WA I use that I highly recommend
long tinsel
@old night lol seen a lot of that this season
old night
tracks IP and ceiling quite well
woven trellis
no but i didnt have trouble doin 11+s, but i thought i could tank more
sand egret
can we not bring up “haste caps” round here lol
thorn fiber
I use that wa, it's solid
woven trellis
but what does it do
supple path
Oh yeah, that's a lot cleaner looking than the one I've got. Thanks Film
woven trellis
the wa
supple path
Provides a central hub for all your CDs, health, uptimes, etc.
long tinsel
Tracks SB and IP
woven trellis
i already have wa for that
old night
@supple path no prob dawg
here lemme snag a twitch clip, you can see it in action
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thorn fiber
No not haste caps @sand egret. I was refering to the kvalue Crit block cap he goes over.
long tinsel
Honestly your shield is probably hurting you in +10s
modern brook
not making ur own WAs 🤢
ornate wagon
we have a block cap?
sand egret
85%
old night
modern brook
x->85 as block -> inf
old night
there ya go
sand egret
and 100% but that goes without saying lol
ornate wagon
wow, im at 49% how does one hit block cap
thorn fiber
It's 42.5 or something?
sand egret
85/2
ornate wagon
26.55% chance to block, reduces damage by 49.41%
woven trellis
omg that wa is awesome
gleaming rock
is running 3xDC bad?
woven trellis
lovely
sand egret
it's a pure damage move
old night
yep
sand egret
so "bad" is relative to what your needs are
thorn fiber
The meme
modern brook
Dc's 2 and 3 are purely offensive
elfin plume
is ignore pain only physical damage
modern brook
no
old night
no
sand egret
if you're running the MDI to get the most damage...it's quite good
long tinsel
@gleaming rock no u just lose out on block or leech
elfin plume
didnt it used to be
old night
no
sand egret
nope
modern brook
no ur thinking of Anti Magic Shell
ornate wagon
so ideally i would drop some mastery then?
sand egret
yep.
old night
yes way
modern brook
the DK IP
elfin plume
i swear it was only physcial
gleaming rock
So I should change up lol? https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/tichondrius/whatsthreat
old night
it wasn't
sand egret
that's DKs
modern brook
@gleaming rock didnt we have this convo like
thursday
I distinctly remember this cause @sand egret was like "sick name"
sand egret
false i dont think I said that
gleaming rock
Perhaps but I have a horrible memory and on my lunch break and was thinking if I am blah
sand egret
but it's kinda a good name
but yeah stacking DC is a meme move
you could prob ditch your trinket
somber ferry
i think decision on statchoice
relies on your composition, how you play
and if you have a regular m+ group
gleaming rock
ack, OK I will reforge when i get home. I changed it last night because I was trying to go more damage
sand egret
then it's a good choice...
somber ferry
with a stronger setup and better classes
modern brook
dont reforge
somber ferry
u can get away with mastery stacking
modern brook
assuming ur equiped are your only options
somber ferry
or crit stacking for more damage
sand egret
your goal = you want more damage then your choice = correct
modern brook
3x DC 2x bom 1x BS is fine
supple path
I added a second DC the other day over an IF and I feel nothing but happy with my decision.
thorn fiber
My haste for my prot is super low.. can't get the gear to drop lol. Although I am getting lucky with sockets. So it kept it relative. I have 8 sockets
gleaming rock
Well I do have a 385 Jess's howl with socket I can put in place of the crit trink
modern brook
2x bom 2x bs, 1dc 1bfi isnt god tier higher
neon tangle
@gleaming rock I would definitly move your helm to overwhelming power
neon tangle
and heed my call for your chest
ornate wagon
im using 3 x DC and in 10-15s it seems fine
neon tangle
@gleaming rock I would use jes instead of your bargain trinket
gleaming rock
Well this is where I am at after tanking on this warrior for roughly a week. I would like to start tanking higher keys. https://raider.io/characters/us/tichondrius/Whatsthreat
long tinsel
You're a tank so your main priority is to keep aggro and stay alive. Unless you're in MDI l
grand drum
In the mdi they also keep aggro and stay alive
supple path
As a prot warrior doing DPS is absolutely one of your main priorities.
thorn fiber
I reached 100k on a pack with reaping the other night.. felt so nice
ornate wagon
any tank can live through a key, but prot helps lower your completion times
sand egret
this convo makes my head hurt
modern brook
@gleaming rock every enchant and gem should be for haste
grand drum
I hope i get a dc or bom my azerite chest tomorrow
ornate wagon
ive hit 120 burst, finishing at 92k, so far its my best
modern brook
not sure what ur hardon for verse is about
lusty grotto
just do mythic champs @grand drum
exotic spoke
If they mobs are dead it’s hard for them to kill you
lusty grotto
easily puggable unless youre on a dead server
grand drum
Kinda dead lol, just gotta wait for HoF
ornate wagon
my current trinket choices: 400 jes howler and 410 lingering sporepods. Thoughts?
lusty grotto
rip
sand egret
you only listed one trinket
exotic spoke
Rip
lusty grotto
i only see jes
thorn fiber
I have like 12% vers.. just the way the drops have came. Would love some trade off for haste without sacrificing ilvl
long tinsel
Sporepods is garbage
lusty grotto
yeah blade wth
woven trellis
ok i reread guide and understood my issue. When tanking more mobs, i was tryin to fill some fullcost revenge to maximize dps while i shouldnt
lusty grotto
lingering shitpods you say?
ornate wagon
would losing the 10 illvl be worth farming a trinket out of m+?
lusty grotto
yes
long tinsel
Yes
sand egret
@thorn fiber I don't think I've once actively thought about balancing any of my stats other than ilvl this expac. It's really not that important over mainstat lol
grand drum
Yea
lusty grotto
fuck shitpods
exotic spoke
Pretty much.
grand drum
Vial is pretty good
long tinsel
Farm AD get rezans
neon tangle
fun fact, sporepods sims a whole 68 dps lower than Jes
inland wasp
Ilvl FTW
lusty grotto
butcher block bby
woven trellis
u guys like Gore crutched ?
neon tangle
I mean, jes good for the whole team
long tinsel
And haste from Rezans scales with it
lusty grotto
haste from anywhere
long tinsel
Yes
gleaming rock
I do have a 390 rezans I could equip. Would you say the rezans or jess's howl?