protection

[fresh forum]

We have... 16 I believe

[ionic fern]

o.o

[undone sun]

close eonugh

[fresh forum]

Lol

We had 19

[ionic fern]

yikes

[fresh forum]

Stong officer core

[undone sun]

to each their own i guess

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sand condor]

My god im jealous

I just wabt to raid mythic

But no one on my realm needs taaaanks

[fresh forum]

I mean, there's a raid every day of the week, various times, something to work with everyone

[sand condor]

Thunderclaps furiously

[fresh forum]

Check out our website, see if there's any tank spots open

[sand condor]

Im on eu and ally so

Tough luck xd

[ionic fern]

What server are you on?

[sand condor]

Kilrogg

[ionic fern]

There's your problem.

😄

[sand condor]

Yep

[fresh forum]

ah shitty

[ionic fern]

Go to Ravencrest or Silvermoon

[sand condor]

Gotta get to those two

I gotta find a trial before i transfer tho

[gaunt dawn]

imagine playing alliance

and wanting to raid

🙃

[sand condor]

Feel my pain panthea

[ionic fern]

Hey, i got picked up by AN alliance guild on Silvermoon

[sand condor]

Feel it

[ionic fern]

Easier to get into Hall of Fame.

[gaunt dawn]

*an alliance guild

[ionic fern]

😂

[gaunt dawn]

if ur gonna edit

do it right

😡

[ionic fern]

Yes papa.

[gaunt dawn]

id be alliance if xfer was free

alot of people would

[ionic fern]

Definetly..just enable "Guild transfer to alliance" for a week and the faction imbalance will fix itself.

😂

[gaunt dawn]

yep

cant justify spending £2k as a guild again

[ionic fern]

"again"? o.o

[gaunt dawn]

to xfer banks, chars, alts etc

we were alliance pre-mop

D:

[ionic fern]

😬

[chilly brook]

This is gonna be an interesting day

[sand condor]

(Just make a new guild on alliance and let me join)

[gaunt dawn]

that sounds like alot of effort for nothing

if i can guarantee hall of fame, sure

cos then i can make decent gold

[sand condor]

Can we set up a mythic raiding twam with only warriors?

[ionic fern]

Pretty sure alliance still hasn't filled the Hall of Fame.

[gaunt dawn]

pretty easy to make gold on alliance if you can get hall of fame 😃

[chilly brook]

Literally, 14 hours of straight video editing and website creating ☹

[gaunt dawn]

and....thats why i stopped making video guides 😃

[chilly brook]

Oh no

This is for my Senior project

that's due in 10 hours

[sand condor]

You make wow guides for a senior project :p

[chilly brook]

lmao no

Especially not when I'm no longer subbed

[neon tangle]

There's like 4 people in here still playing prot warrior

[sand condor]

<~~

Prot war best war

[chilly brook]

I mean I'd still be playing it if I had an interest to play WoW still

[floral tinsel]

Holy fucking shit

The "ping"-icon in this discord icon is tilting me hard

[neon tangle]

@floral tinsel I'll make sure to ping you just in case

[sand condor]

Damn these new warrior upsates

[tardy berry]

Is this an in-season aprils fool joke

[floral tinsel]

😂

[sand condor]

Yes

Sadly

I loved the “has been donated to demon hunters”

[tardy berry]

Soul of the forest ye

[floral tinsel]

I feel like they should take the step and announce a new mobile game 👺

[sand condor]

Warcraft garrisons phone app

[tardy berry]

I liked
Nobody:
Blizzard: druids don't wear any clothes they just shapeshift themselves to look like they do.

[sand condor]

Like falloutshelter but wow garrisons

[tardy berry]

Dude.
Even as a joke, blizz can't announce a mobile game now

[sand condor]

Yup

[floral tinsel]

😂

[tardy berry]

Think of the stock drops xD

[merry bane]

I will say I just finished a KR 8 and my dps output improved

kept up CR and TC and it was crazy

[sand condor]

Nobody:
Blizzard: World of Phone craft
Everyone: unsubs to wow

See freedom

[merry bane]

just wait til I get my third TC

[ionic fern]

[merry bane]

I wanna use these shoulders so bad but I lose a BoM

gain IF and TC and OP

[sand condor]

What does mastery do again as a prot war

[merry bane]

critical block and block

if increases block rating across the board by a certain amount

[neon tangle]

just to be pedantic, it doesn't effect block rating

but it does effect block and critical block chance

block rating being the % of damage that's actually blocked

@sand condor ^

[sand condor]

thanks

[ionic fern]

And never forget that sweet-sweet AP

[neon tangle]

that tooo

[sand condor]

do i even want to update my elv ui

[merry bane]

im not until later

so with 3 BoM I go to 61% mastery

testing 2

[sand condor]

whats your haste with 5 stacks of into the fray?

between 40 and 50?

[merry bane]

gunna go find out

[sand condor]

or just add 15 to what you have without any stacks

[merry bane]

haste is sitting at 33% with 15% and nothing else

and Mastery goes to 50% with 2 BoM

[sand condor]

thats good

wait

your haste is 33% when you have the 15%?

thats really low

[merry bane]

yes

[sand condor]

you need some haste gear :::D

[merry bane]

I have hast eon almost every piece

[sand condor]

can i see your raider io?

[merry bane]

plus I wont for ilevel over stats

went

until I hit all 400 pieces and above

[neon tangle]

@merry bane Good job on not prioritizing haste

[merry bane]

LOL

[sand condor]

i feel sarcasm

[neon tangle]

or rather, not prioritizing it over ilvl

I'm being serious

[merry bane]

I went for ilevel over secondary stats until all my pieces were 400

[ionic fern]

That's the correct way.

[neon tangle]

People make the wrong decision constantly

[sand condor]

i mean im prioritzing ivlv

and then haste

but im also runnin specific dungeons

for haste gear

it has not payed off

my rezans is only 415 instead of 425

[merry bane]

my io shows gear for fury

even when i updated it

[sand condor]

update it?

oh

played fury last night?

[neon tangle]

@merry bane tbh I don't prioritize a specific stat even above ilvl 400

[sand condor]

for trinkets tho

[merry bane]

I havent prioritized stats

[sand condor]

i have a 420 trinket with a socket

[merry bane]

and I made damn sure to get as higha rezans as I could

[sand condor]

but its wack

[neon tangle]

@sand condor what trinket

[merry bane]

never had it titanforge

[sand condor]

vial of animated blood

[merry bane]

https://www.raider.io/characters/us/nordrassil/Freedomfite

[sand condor]

or well

its not wack

[merry bane]

freshly updated

[neon tangle]

You should really sim it

[sand condor]

im running a diamon laced prism

how do i sim (i am really new into sims ect)

[ionic fern]

raidbots.com

[neon tangle]

at 415 the difference between a vial and BiS is <200dps, the ilvl will almost certainly win out

[ionic fern]

It's fairly simple.
Go there - pick w/e sim style you prefer. Pick your Region->Server->Char

[outer dew]

ya know

[ionic fern]

What's "BiS" trinket? 🤔

[outer dew]

i've been finding myself trusting sims less and less

[merry bane]

almost 1k tanking IO, just gotta clear a ToS on 8 or higher and ill hit the top 2

[neon tangle]

@ionic fern the mekka one

[merry bane]

I hate that place though

[sand condor]

lord im 5th on warrior tanks here

[neon tangle]

for patchwerk damage

[ionic fern]

Ah, you mean Rage.

[sand condor]

and im on 1636

[ionic fern]

Thought bis was a synonym for something.

[sand condor]

RAGE is stupid

[merry bane]

Best in Slot

[sand condor]

its so good

[ionic fern]

As in a trinket name.

😒

[merry bane]

oh 😦

[neon tangle]

lol

[merry bane]

I have 2 shoulders now I can try my 390s or stick with my 400s

[sand condor]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/YYCMuNkAbkbxjpJ9rEpFJ

now i have to equi the other trinket?

[orchid frigate]

does simming dps work now?

[sand condor]

and do it again?

[ionic fern]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/o1bALknxCyedaNENcmWi2v

SOOOO close.

to 19k

[neon tangle]

@sand condor There's a gear compare

[ionic fern]

😦

[sand condor]

what where

[ionic fern]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot

And click "Gear compare"

[distant crystal]

hold my beer

[merry bane]

im simmin gmyself why not

[ionic fern]

And yes @orchid frigate

[orchid frigate]

nice!

[sand condor]

foudn it

lets see

[neon tangle]

@sand condor https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/c6mpZqFzPp9Cdd3LF2yLdf for ST

[sand condor]

i should bind my vial to my avatar in that case

[neon tangle]

yes

[sand condor]

131 dps extra

is that worth it?

[neon tangle]

why not?

[distant crystal]

been thinking about binding vial to a modifier clap

[ionic fern]

On AoE it would be a lot more.

[distant crystal]

so i don't waste the first gcd of it

[sand condor]

THATS TRUE

[merry bane]

hahaha says I sim at 14795

[sand condor]

My azerite traits suck sadly tho

[distant crystal]

isn't devestator the winner for ST

[sand condor]

;-;

thanks for the help lads

[undone sun]

it's competitive on ST

[merry bane]

not for M+ though

[ionic fern]

@sand condor

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gUDM8oMuT3fcji2o7jtVTz

[distant crystal]

well yeah, ST

[ionic fern]

This is 10 bosses 1 minute

6k more with vial.

[sand condor]

so definitly wortth it

[distant crystal]

i think i might be able to beat ya there

[sand condor]

awesome

[distant crystal]

my freaking toon is stuck in darkshore

[sand condor]

just gonna macro it to avatar

[distant crystal]

stuck on loadscreen when i leave

rip

[neon tangle]

@sand condor also tbh you shouldn't over estimate how much haste you get from rezan's, at 415 you get ~200 haste on avg from it, socket gives you 40 haste alone on your 420

plus the extra 5 ilvls of str

[sand condor]

oh no i have a 395 opulence one

that im swapping it for

[neon tangle]

also a valid option

maybe worth opulence if you do reallly high keys

[distant crystal]

tbh it feels like the opulence trinket just converts some healer hps into overheal

[sand condor]

i do 15 and up

[distant crystal]

it looks nice on the meters

but idk

[umbral forge]

Uh

[sand condor]

currently going towards 17's

but yeah imma swap it out and feel how it plays

[mint glen]

that backwards names of channels are because of april?

[undone sun]

yes

not the only thing that changed

[mint glen]

Kungen godking?

[ionic fern]

One true king.

[mint glen]

he still plays?

[ionic fern]

Yes

[undone sun]

🤦

[ionic fern]

@hot locust

👋

[balmy crystal]

Kelade invasion

[distant crystal]

it's weird that

1 earthlink + 1 azerite globules sims higher

[primal sable]

Wonder why there are 2 valkyr ranks

[distant crystal]

than 2 azerite globules or 2 earthlinks

[undone sun]

sorting reasons

sorting and pinging

[ionic fern]

@distant crystal DM me the sims where it does that.

[undone sun]

some valkyr are also Tc, but prefer to be under TC

[ionic fern]

Wait, i misread that. I thought you said 1 EL/1AG sims higher than 2EL/2AG

[umbral forge]

Oh thats why im stormforged

I thought my deeds were recognized

[distant crystal]

yeah it just likes the variety i guess

guessing they're just super close, it's the 1 boss patchwerk i'm simming

working on beating your almost 19K :p

i suspect you have a much better weapon than me tho

[ionic fern]

🤷

Not sure what you got.

[distant crystal]

410

vers mast

[hot locust]

@ionic fern 👋

[ionic fern]

The god lives.

I would get that 19k+ if i got any TC pieces.

😒

need Mekka/Jadefire azerites.

[distant crystal]

heh, in my next round of sims it prefers double globs

[umbral forge]

Wait is that the real Kungen?

[undone sun]

no

nor is that the real sco

[umbral forge]

Cool

Say hi from me

[undone sun]

what

[ionic fern]

Just remember that sims have a time variance of ~20% by default so sim DPS is bound to vary a bit from sim to sim

[umbral forge]

I'm jettom btw. My guild officers are running an April Fools joke.

[distant crystal]

i wish i knew how to turn off this annoying deja april fools

guess i can just kill the addon

[junior hearth]

How many buttons does Protection has? Compared to like fury

[distant crystal]

a ton

[hidden panther]

15-20

[junior hearth]

Is learning to play Prot hard?

[distant crystal]

i use more keybinds for protwarr than any of my toons

[hidden panther]

i have 24 binded buttons (with flasks macros etc)

[austere oar]

learning how to efficiently tank is hard

[hidden panther]

wait i am lying, its actually 27

[junior hearth]

Learning how to efficiently tank doesnt seem that hard

[candid folio]

Clap on 1-5 + shift 1-5 , ctrl 1-5 and so on

[distant crystal]

bruh gotta have avatar somewhere

[austere oar]

if you don't know tank mechanics as a prot warrior you're gonna have a bad time

it's not monk press ISB and roll on everything

[junior hearth]

Yeah, but other than learning those and learning rotations etc it doesnt seem hard to learn how to efficiently tank

[hidden panther]

Ammount of prot war buttons

[undone sun]

there's a difference between just surviving, and efficiently playing your spec to the fullest

damage output matters

[austere oar]

and if you mess up it's not just your dps going to get lower a bit but you're gonna die and wipe your raid potentially

[hidden panther]

the main thing about prot warrior is that you actually PREVENT the ammount of dmg you take. you better use your defensives before you take the hit. as opposed to Guardians when you heal based on the dmg recieved

[undone sun]

proactive tanking requires forethought

[distant crystal]

it's kinda similar to healing on a disc priest

you gotta know when the dmg is coming before it comes

or get caught with your pants down

[trail rune]

? @fierce juniper dohteM ot em etivni uoy naC

[distant crystal]

.on

[hidden panther]

but again, its not difficult, you suppose to know thi fight no matter what tank you choose. so as war you just have more badass points.

[junior hearth]

@fierce juniper Can you invite me to Limit?

[outer wraith]

" as opposed to Guardians when you heal based on the dmg recieved "

[distant crystal]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hHZKCtboNkuJsyMciNVyhQ

https://i.imgur.com/HlUuuZP.gif

i think frenzied regen is just a flat heal now right

isn't based on dmg taken

[outer dew]

si

it's a flat heal now

[sand condor]

I need better azerite gear to get TC + BoM

To get to that nasty 19k

[hidden panther]

idk, i remember off leagion. they ruined guardian so i switched to proto. i dont remember exactly what makes druids garbage righnt now

[austere oar]

Well I don't know much about druids but they still need to get their ironfur proactively

[sand condor]

Warriors being so good for m+ makes everything less good

[austere oar]

they're not entirely reactive

[unborn island]

What?

[distant crystal]

every time i found myself healing a bear in keys

[unborn island]

April promotion!!!

[distant crystal]

it ended up being much less bad than i expected

fwiw

[sand condor]

I think guardian is just lower on dps i suppose?

[austere oar]

they mostly suffer from their reputation

since the nerf

[sand condor]

I tanked with one in heroic bod and it was nowhere near me on dps and healing

[austere oar]

they're ok but there's much better elsewhere

[sand condor]

But idk if he just succes

Sucked^

[distant crystal]

i miss cata bears

dodge tanks ftw

and the catweave

oops that crazy tank mechanics you were worried would kill me...i dodged it

[sick sentinel]

whens the channel names getting reverted back to the names it should be i know it was part of april fools 😃

[distant crystal]

presumably April 2nd

oof can't type

[sick sentinel]

ok

[outer dew]

i mean

define less dps

baer DPS is fine if packs survive long enough

bear*

only struggle is ST

[undone sun]

oh jesus, i just noticed the new pin

that's deceptive

[ionic fern]

For some reason that pin talent build looks familiar from another site i recently went to.

[sand condor]

thats a fake sco innit

[austere oar]

ye

[sand condor]

rip invites to method tho

[distant crystal]

it's actually MethodJosh renamed to Sco

[sand condor]

Seemslegit

[distant crystal]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/cXSnoA6YGGgVzDuTH3SFYo

@ionic fern

🤔

[ionic fern]

yeees?

10 bosses 1 minute

With lust

[distant crystal]

is my azerite that god tier?

[ionic fern]

And pots.

[austere oar]

now that's a lot of damage

[distant crystal]

was yours different?

am i doing apples to oranges

[ionic fern]

Was mine different where?

[distant crystal]

doh

you were simming Vic i think

[ionic fern]

Up there i was simming Vic jeah

[distant crystal]

i see the diff warrior name on your ST sim

[ionic fern]

I'm at work and i have my ST gear on. 😂

[distant crystal]

thought I booked a simW

[ionic fern]

So can't sim my aoe stuff

[sand condor]

heheh

i need better traits for my azerite

thats where im being held back massively

[distant crystal]

i'm just ridiculously lucky

[sand condor]

should i take overwhelming power over lifespeed?

[distant crystal]

today i got my first random piece that wasn't BoM/DC

ye

OP is...OP

[sand condor]

and over ablative shielding?

[distant crystal]

OP for dmg ablative for def

[sand condor]

awesome

and then

from the engineering ones

i take the gizmo right

[distant crystal]

i'm not 100% on that

Barrage is pretty good for aoe, not sure how the defensive one is

[bronze lantern]

gizmo >

[distant crystal]

my warr isn't engi tho so idk if barrage even beats RNG for pure dps

[sand condor]

gizmo best then

[outer dew]

Barrage is how you hard int your WCM and TD

[distant crystal]

yeah even on my mage where barrage sims better for aoe

i run RNG because barrage always seems to proc when we're on the last mob in the pack

apparently it can spread thru walls too eh?

[sand condor]

so barrage is better for dps?

[distant crystal]

i think like, on paper, maybe

i'd prob rock RNG anyway though, cause it'll provide a modicum of defensive benefit too

is the one that reduces dmg dealt to you decent at all?

[sand condor]

i think its rather bad]

bcause it has a 2000 yard range?

like what?

[distant crystal]

wtf

[sand condor]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4oQ6UNrQ5TLghLez54eQn7

[mortal carbon]

...

[sand condor]

look at that

[distant crystal]

confirmed that is a comma

[sand condor]

swapping azerite traits

[distant crystal]

what in the world

[sand condor]

made me do 1000 more dps

now

[ocean helm]

what happend to the discord?

[sand condor]

april fools

[distant crystal]

^

[ocean helm]

ahhhhhh

cmon

[distant crystal]

worst holiday

bar-none

[ocean helm]

=DDDD

[ionic fern]

You're all SF's..should be happy.

😦

[autumn pendant]

@ionic fern get good

[undone sun]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[autumn pendant]

And on our level

[ionic fern]

I'm trying.

😒

It's hard when i come here to improve and all i see is "Leech is good".

[autumn pendant]

Just go triple bonded souls

100% legit

[sand condor]

Mwahi i got my single target up by 1000 😄

[distant crystal]

i heard you can just 4dps + tank with 15 bonded souls traits

ez claps

[sand condor]

lolwhat

[orchid narwhal]

how good is : https://www.wowhead.com/item=159407/lockjaw-shoulderplate&bonus=4817:1512&azerite-powers=1 ?

[distant crystal]

it was actually a thing iirc, so they nerfed it

@orchid narwhal i got one today...dps set

but i mean bastion/IF is solid

i'm fishing for a bastion/bloodsport piece

[ionic fern]

Gz Vic.

[distant crystal]

but seriously

is that a typo

or does it pull the whole dungeon first proc

[sand condor]

i think....

[umbral forge]

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=9269/gnomish-universal-remote
can my guild use these to cheese the Grong fight

[distant crystal]

or maybe it only hits mobs in combat

[sand condor]

AND HOLY SHIT HOW BAD IS THE FUCKING TRADE OF TOOL FOR ENGINEERING

you litterally cant use it in m+

[bronze lantern]

yeah im not making it

[distant crystal]

i pressed it three times in Boralus

then forgot it existed

at least let me loot mekamogul mats from shrines around the world or something

when i found out you can't even attack the "target dummy" i ragequit

[sand condor]

and 10k extra on the multi target

nice

[austere oar]

you can't use it except in open world lmao

and the mannequin has like 100k health iirc ? for a tank tool heh

[distant crystal]

so i'm taking one for the team

just reforged synaptic on mage

going out in the world to see if i pull the zone

[autumn pendant]

I mean, majority of those tools of trade are dissapointing or underwhelming

[bronze lantern]

alch is nice

[distant crystal]

i think

synaptic is like 2 yards or something

seems to just be very close prox

[bronze lantern]

its definetly not 2000y

[old zephyr]

I think there is something off with the pins, why would people even play safeguard, when it's basically hand of sacrifice on a 15s CD, just bring a HPAL

[distant crystal]

yeah just confirmed

even if you're in combat with other far away mobs

not even 20 yds away it doesn't hit em

must just be 2 yds or something

but it can crit

so it's got that going for it!

@old zephyr yeah why pick a talent when you could just bring another player for a slightly worse version of that utlity

💩

[willow needle]

Was playing around on prot with the engi helm yday. Felt pretty good running synaptic and the auto-protection bot (inner ring) traits. Could def tell when they procced, super tanky

[ionic fern]

Tbh i used Safeguard on the KR +21 we did for the 1st and 3rd boss.

[old zephyr]

Yeah on kr It's Great.
But tbh there isn't à lot of other place to use it

[distant crystal]

i had no idea i could yoink powder shots with it

gonna try that tomorrow

err, with intercept that is, without safeguard

[ionic fern]

Keep SB up for it tho.

[signal plover]

YES WE ARE NOW MIGHTY

[old zephyr]

we have always been

it juste wasn't that usefull before

this season put DPS on the spotlight so we are amazing

last season was utility season

next one will be .. I don't know

[torn sleet]

furry season?

[remote gale]

What should I pick for M+ on Engineering Helmet ? Spark/Bombs/Gizmo/Pyrosaw ?

[bronze lantern]

gizmo

[winter aspen]

Pyrosaw synergizes well with Krag’wa

[remote gale]

That's basically why i'm asking, I've had different answer everywhere

• Many bombs damage are ok

[strong forum]

Bombs are good for dem deeps

RNG is good overall

SSC is good for high keys

Pick whatever you like most, I went with bombs cuz it's sexy dps

[narrow abyss]

Where is this ping notification this is fucking killing me 😑

[hollow thorn]

xd

[sour rapids]

there isn't one

xD

[ionic fern]

@narrow abyss here it is.

[narrow abyss]

🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

[sick sentinel]

@sour rapids then what is this?

[sour rapids]

nice try :p but i have all disc muted

[narrow abyss]

Bad man

[torn sleet]

is stormbolt a must-have nowadays or is rumbling earth a safe pick?

[hollow thorn]

Both are good

[winter aspen]

Is gonk a must pick nowadays ?

[ionic fern]

It depends on what you are doing..if you're doing M+ i'd definetly take Rumbling Earth @torn sleet

[hollow thorn]

Storm Bolt is good in some dungeons

[old zephyr]

I prefer stormbolt for M+ myself, but i'm not the biggest pusher ever

[hollow thorn]

For example ML for the assasains

and to get a Spritzer cast

[ionic fern]

Guess it depends on the comp..never had issues with Assassins .

[winter aspen]

ToS for bow sneks

[astral crystal]

Wooow I fell for it

[sand condor]

Lol

[viral adder]

whats up fotm channel

[winter aspen]

Outlaw channel is this way 👉🚪

[austere oar]

how many ppl rolled prot after seeing the mdi you think ? 🤔

[bronze lantern]

no more than there are now

🤷

[winter aspen]

Not as many as WW monk

[hollow thorn]

everyone knew how good prot is

I hope more WWs pop up tho

[winter aspen]

That spec is either 0 or 100

Either nobody plays it or everybody does

[narrow abyss]

Oh I missed MDI?

[remote gale]

What aspect should we use ? M+ focused

[austere oar]

paku

[winter aspen]

Gonk

[narrow abyss]

Was it protcity

[ionic fern]

Yes it was.

[crisp pecan]

which one is 4%?

[viral adder]

zandalari yikes

[sick sentinel]

only like it was when blood dk was a thing so its time for prot to shine

[hollow thorn]

Paku is crit

[crisp pecan]

i am using this one, cant complain

[hollow thorn]

What does Gonk do?

[crisp pecan]

speed :dddd

[austere oar]

5% ms iirc

[winter aspen]

Speed

[hollow thorn]

What else?

[austere oar]

nothing else

[hollow thorn]

Dont use that then 🙃

[austere oar]

sad to see kimbul not buffed

[hollow thorn]

Paku is pog

[old zephyr]

but aren't we supposed to be part of the gonk gang?

[winter aspen]

GG for life

M+ is all about time and time=speed. More speed=more time

Gonk gang

[plucky mauve]

just run to the end of the dungeon 4Head

[sick sentinel]

5% speed wont make a diff and you can already get across a room fairly quickly double charge an heroic leap

[marble cipher]

I'm using Kimbul atm, but I'm not convinced of I prefer that over paku...

[hollow thorn]

Why would u use Kimbul???

[austere oar]

unfortunately kimbul is trash in every scenarios

[hollow thorn]

It is worse for dps than Paku

[marble cipher]

Someone asked me to test it out 😂

[hollow thorn]

and has 0 defensive value, which Paku does

[austere oar]

m+ = Paku / ST.Raid = bwon

[sick sentinel]

only 1 i see other than paku is krag'wa

[marble cipher]

Pre april fools, though I think I just got jebaited into a 5 day cooldown

[plucky mauve]

most def

[marble cipher]

Switching back to paku asap, still 4 days

[winter aspen]

Wouldnt goblin be the logical choice for raiding ?

You get to be a smallboi for jaina

[sick sentinel]

seen few ppl using the engineering helm should i drop alchemy once i got the 2xtanking trinkets from BoD

[hollow thorn]

Racial wise, best race for raiding

[sick sentinel]

i got BS/Alch prof

[winter aspen]

Drop alchemy ? Wtf

Drop bs

[crisp pecan]

bs is shit

[upper violet]

how can someone be homeless

[winter aspen]

Just get a house 4Head

[crisp pecan]

ez lol, why no one doing this is beyond me

[modern brook]

someone talking about GONK GANG?

[winter aspen]

You bet

[modern brook]

hella

[astral crystal]

we're all yellow names now bois

we made it

our incessant "check the pins" replies has finally earned us recognition

[modern brook]

whooooa

[signal plover]

It's time

To push

The Ravager meta

[modern brook]

3x GS 3x rf

[hollow thorn]

now even blue omegalul

[astral crystal]

kungen lol

[jovial haven]

the colors this morning are blinding lol

[upper violet]

👁‍🗨

[sick sentinel]

if you had a choice wht would you choose to make 1st the engineering helm or alch trinket

[jovial haven]

depends on what you have in those slots now

[tropic star]

damn the april foold icon

[jovial haven]

what gets you more though, the icon or the names of channels? lol

[tropic star]

well

the names only took a few secs to work out

that icon going to get me all day

[signal plover]

So our guild discord slightly reduced the size of the logo so the notification doesn't get clipped and I keep auto tapping it out of habit.

[sick sentinel]

knot of ancient fury 400ilvl and rezan gleaming eye 370 @jovial haven

[signal plover]

It's brilliant

[jovial haven]

what about your helm @sick sentinel ?

[sick sentinel]

greathelm of the purtrid path 375

putrid*

[narrow abyss]

The damn ping notification on server icon is a picture. Goddamn April fools

[jovial haven]

honestly I would make trinket and buy a helm with residuum

[sick sentinel]

right yeah thanks

[jovial haven]

i mean even a 385 helm would be a cheap upgrade and easy to get, and 400 alch better than 370 rezan til you get better

[hollow thorn]

Save reisduum for 415

[jovial haven]

i wouldnt wait that long to replace a 375 helm and he could get the residuum from scrappin M0 azerite

[modern brook]

opprotunity cost tbh

Save for 415

[narrow abyss]

Save for 415

[modern brook]

Unless you're going to be like actively mythic raiding on that toon

sace for 415

[urban island]

What is the best loa for prot war ?

[modern brook]

iLvl is all that matters on our pieces, since thats the only source of 415 azerite besides raiding, not saving for 415 is a huge mistake

[narrow abyss]

It’s 2-3 weeks. It’s not awful. And heroics can easily be pugged for some 400 if you need the ilvl

[sick sentinel]

yo

@hollow thorn

[modern brook]

@urban island it wholey doesnt matter: Bwom for raid, paku for m+ has been the concensus

You roll Zand for regen not for loa

[hollow thorn]

I see edited

But whats edited

Hmmm

[sick sentinel]

I mistyped

I said go instead of yo

[hollow thorn]

👋

[sick sentinel]

nice role

[hollow thorn]

Okay, no hidden message

[ionic fern]

Or was there...

[hollow thorn]

Hmmmmmmmm

[signal plover]

I will say this about zandalari troll. 100% of the time when I'm swapped to them in raid, I forget about their racial every time.

[modern brook]

yeah theyre not some super op race tbh

they just look cool

not like LFD

[jovial haven]

did anyone see the light touched undead on wowhead or the void touched orc and human on there?

[sick sentinel]

april first

[modern brook]

u got apral fuuled!

xD

[thin ore]

I actually like most discord servers icons better today than rest of the year, skyhold included

[jovial haven]

i wasn't sure if it was a joke or since the next patch was being data mined if it might be something. i mean i could see the void touched happening as its just a skin recolor but didn't think the alliance undead would happen

[hollow thorn]

I dont believe anything on this day

[distant crystal]

385 or 400 randos are worth it if you're replacing the old pre 8.1 gear with 1 outer ring

but if your existing azerite is current-ish then ya 415

[modern brook]

def isnt; just run m0s and replace them

dont spend ur dusty on sub 415

[distant crystal]

you can get 3x 385 for like 450 lol

[modern brook]

u can get 3x 385 for free too

by running m0s

[distant crystal]

385s from m0 you say

🤔

[jovial haven]

is it 385 or 375

[distant crystal]

everybody bought 385x3 on week 1 of 8.1

for the huge boost going into raid

[limber jolt]

what u guys think about Azerite Engeenering head?

[modern brook]

Engie helm is good

andif ur actually going to compare day 1 new raid to current day, i cant help u 🤷

[distant crystal]

i mean it's basically the same situation as if you somehow had triple uldir/old 1ring azerite today

and you want to get into the action asap

[modern brook]

its a completely different situation

[distant crystal]

nope

[modern brook]

considering u can get double rings from m0s

and everyones is 400+ ilvl

[distant crystal]

you could do that week 1

[modern brook]

and will burn through them instantly

[distant crystal]

of 8.1

it was still the play

[modern brook]

I'm being pranked nvm

ggwp

[distant crystal]

it's ok to be wrong

we all are sometimes

[modern brook]

calm down boy

[distant crystal]

😗

[crisp pecan]

i got last week harpooner azerite chest - this shit is useless for anyspec

any spec*

[modern brook]

???

its usable on any of them

UF/RF; low/ToM Bfi/IF

all very good combos

[hollow thorn]

Its bis for arms

[crisp pecan]

arms, did not checked, but for fury it is bullshit, no OP/CSHB

prot - like totally useless

[distant crystal]

i thought you were using some avant garde acronym like best-in-azerite or something :p

[fresh valley]

not gonna lie, the current incarnation of azerite gear is kinda nice..... i llike the mix/match approach. i can swap shit around for different content/affixes

[distant crystal]

i mean it's super-good for prot defensive/raid

[crisp pecan]

this is why requirement for "good" azerite increased :d

[distant crystal]

it's not a good bootyclap M+ dps piece tho, which is i guess what ya want

[hollow thorn]

No BoM = trash

[distant crystal]

keep coinin' mythic champions :p

[crisp pecan]

for prot is chest is from 1st boss mythic and or azerite chest from underrot with blood rite

[sand condor]

Is it worth gambling on the random roll?

[distant crystal]

kind of a personal choice really

some people save up for weeks and buy the perfect piece

[torn sleet]

I've yet to be disappointed with the random roll

[distant crystal]

i like to roll the bones

[torn sleet]

got like the best shoulders for arms, and the best shoulders for prot m+ tanking

[sand condor]

I shall gamble

[crisp pecan]

ye, you will never get same piece if there are still some you never had rolled before, at least ive never got twice piece i had won already

[austere oar]

what I did is buy a random 415 for each slot in the early tier to get my ilvl up

and then eco for targetted buy

[crisp pecan]

best shoulders for prot are from mekkatorque

[hollow thorn]

You can get duplicates

Thats for sure

[crisp pecan]

really? never happened to me

[hollow thorn]

My priest got same shoulders 3 times in a row

[distant crystal]

happened for me a time or two :p across toons

[crisp pecan]

lel, bought like 8 pieces already, never had duplicate

[hollow thorn]

My war has gotten great unifier 3 times

[distant crystal]

warrior has been luckyboi tho, BoM/DC a-go-go

but i want a bloodsport piece 😐

[hollow thorn]

You dont need bloodsport

[crisp pecan]

bloodsport is meh

[lucid bough]

If hes pushing 20s, i dont see the problem tbh

[jovial haven]

where's chip cus i feel the leech convo coming

[crisp pecan]

i am pushing 20+ and not having bloodsport doesn't matter

[distant crystal]

i got crit/haste/leech pants

[crisp pecan]

3x DC 2x BOM + gizmo

[distant crystal]

so now i'm on a leech quest

[jovial haven]

and there it is lol

[distant crystal]

kek

[lucid bough]

well mate you dont want

some do

[crisp pecan]

leech meme - ok, i got baited

[lucid bough]

again the top 5 prots should be doing bad decisions picking double BS for their gear

[distant crystal]

i feel like 3x BoM 1x IF 1x BS 1x DC is fun times tho

[torn sleet]

I was going to ask about leech eventually. I saw some with 3x bloodsport and even siphoning on their weapon. Is stacking leech that good?

[modern brook]

no

[torn sleet]

Wow that cleared things up quick

Thanks

[modern brook]

npnp

its good to have but u dont drop ilvl for it

Gearing for leech is akin to gearing for titan forges

[distant crystal]

i'm dropping ilvl for it :p

[modern brook]

not surprised 🤷

[distant crystal]

but it's 405 vers/mast vs 400 haste/crit/leech

fight me

[torn sleet]

No would never drop ilvl for it. More like considered reforging

[rough lake]

Is that ok to stack if ?

[distant crystal]

both aspects stack ya

the block and the reflected dmg

[rough lake]

i can stack x3if or have 2if and 1 cr

[modern brook]

3x if tbh

[distant crystal]

cr kinda meh

[modern brook]

^

[distant crystal]

but it is a 1-hit wonder type, 1st point is way better than subsequent points cause the dr doesn't stack

[rough lake]

ok thanks 😃 Dunno at what point it became better

[distant crystal]

but even 1 point is kinda meh

[modern brook]

dr stacks on CR

only trait to do so

[crisp pecan]

If or bs?

[distant crystal]

orly?

[modern brook]

ye

[distant crystal]

so 3x is 4.5% dr stacked up, damn

[modern brook]

yeah

[distant crystal]

assumed not, most of the % things like that don't

[modern brook]

@crisp pecan If u have bom and no other BS take the BS

else IF

yeah CR is the only that does

still isnt really worth it tbh

its slightly less than 4.5

cause of diminishing

and the amount of weirdness / luck it does to ur rotation can make it hard to maintain

especially in ST

[exotic spoke]

I need to replace my BfI piece with if for the 3 BoM 2 IF and 1 dc dream

[modern brook]

the secret is that the dream is actually 3 bom 2 bfi 1 dc

[ornate wagon]

is that the best combo?

[modern brook]

:^)

[wooden radish]

@ionic fern what is block cap

[ornate wagon]

ive been running 3x DC

[hollow thorn]

dont run 3x DC

[exotic spoke]

For raiding / single target right bull

[modern brook]

@exotic spoke I'm a firm believer of it in M+ too

[hollow thorn]

IF > BfI for M+

[exotic spoke]

Hrmm. I like the set up now - a blend of single and aoe

[terse scroll]

@wooden radish No trolling. xd

[exotic spoke]

But was looking at a second one if for m+

[modern brook]

IF > BFI is nice for M+ mongo pulls

[wooden radish]

@terse scroll what is haste cap

[modern brook]

but i like BFI > IF because we dont need help in M+ mongo pulls 🤷

[exotic spoke]

Bigger mongo pulls

More dps

[modern brook]

like if im dying on a pull its to casters or bosses 🤷

[exotic spoke]

True

[eager hollow]

if does dam tho

[modern brook]

thats what outlaws are for

[exotic spoke]

I don’t have outlaws I play with

[modern brook]

oof

[exotic spoke]

Do, shadow, frost, Druid

Resto*

[modern brook]

Do?

[exotic spoke]

Dh

[modern brook]

xd shoulda figured that one out

[exotic spoke]

Auto correct

[jagged bay]

xD

[exotic spoke]

Lol

[modern brook]

gross yeah keep if :^(

[ornate wagon]

hmm, so im new to prot, what is Bfl?

[modern brook]

Brace for impact

[exotic spoke]

It’s a solid group. Probably the best my guild can put together. Honestly I’d rather Be working on and eventually getting 20s with people I know versus a little higher with people I don’t

[ornate wagon]

oh, i dont have that available on anything

[modern brook]

For reference i run with outlaw BM MW [filler] generally frost

AoE isnt something we lack lol

[exotic spoke]

Most of us just broke 2k io. I didn’t because they’ve all done a pout here or there and I haven’t

[distant crystal]

any keys you'd run NS on?

seen people using it for ML

[modern brook]

I think the way ppl use NS on mom load is to hearth and swap to it after 2nd boss

no joke

[exotic spoke]

I’d believe that

[ornate wagon]

my options are 3 x DC , 1 x IF, 1 x CR, 1 x BoM OR replace that 3 x DC with 1 x DC 2 x Bloodsport

[distant crystal]

that was the real reason i was wanting a BS piece, just for some help with magic

[modern brook]

we handle magic damage relatively well

tbh

not like DK Well

but well timed SR goes a long way

but yeah ML last 2 bosses are terrible

[rough lake]

Ablative shielding stack ? 😛

sorry all those traits confusing if stack or not

[exotic spoke]

I was sad yesterday doing lower keys when I saw how little reflect was doing compared to what I usually do

[distant crystal]

trait stacking is about as consistence as english conjugation

[ornate wagon]

I would guess ablative is horrid for prot, your hp shouldnt fall that low pretty much ever

[distant crystal]

just gotta look em up :p

[modern brook]

the rule of thumb would be Raw numbers stack, percents and non-damage/stats do not

[exotic spoke]

^^

[modern brook]

ie: damage on DC stacks, but duration doesnt

[distant crystal]

except after c, or when sounding like a as in neighbor and weigh

[modern brook]

^

theres weird exceptions like CR though

@ornate wagon you're like half right

[rough lake]

yes but ablative still better than unstable flame no ?

[modern brook]

Prot can stabalize at 5%

most other tanks are dead like instantly

[exotic spoke]

Duck motherload. Missed timing a 19 because of a sloppy last boss pull it

[distant crystal]

smash last stand when ablative procs

[modern brook]

I missed my 17 SotS because the pug i was with just did not get the last fight :^(

[exotic spoke]

Ouch

[distant crystal]

also is WoW decent

[modern brook]

we entered last boss room with like 12 mins left

depleted by 10 minutes

:^(

[exotic spoke]

Dafuq

[modern brook]

yeah

[fresh valley]

how is that even possible

[distant crystal]

scuffed kicks or?

[modern brook]

2 pulls scuffed kicks

3rd pull healer got ahegao'd

4th pull 2 dps died to coming out in black shit

.>

[exotic spoke]

Feelsbadman with a gun

[modern brook]

literally every mechanic was fucked up at some point

[distant crystal]

had a nicely timed siege last night and then all the dps decided to zerg the gripping on last platform 😦

[modern brook]

😬

ppl dont know thats not the strat anymore

[exotic spoke]

Howd that work out

[distant crystal]

we even had a rogue that could've riposte tanked the other demo

it was right by gripping

but he moved to the other side

and it started smackin that hull

[modern brook]

well duh, he didnt wanna get slammed

:^(

[ornate wagon]

3 DC or 1 DC with 2 BS?

[modern brook]

@ornate wagon are u dying?

[ornate wagon]

not really

[distant crystal]

3DC is just flossin

[modern brook]

3dc is a loooot of damage

[jovial haven]

get your clap on

[ornate wagon]

im just now pushing into 15s, and i rarely ever go down

[modern brook]

Ur question is "do i gear for damage, or for surv"

[distant crystal]

it's like hey resto druid idgaf about your catweaving

heal me while i climb the meters

[modern brook]

to which the answer is dependent on the content u do

[exotic spoke]

Running a lower Td yesterday. Like 13 with guild mates that don’t normally push keys. One did - the mage that’s in my normal group - but none of the others

I got my revenge on all of them with the cannons

They all died or I reflected if back to then

[modern brook]

LOL u can SR cannons?

[exotic spoke]

Yes

[strong forum]

Ye

[plucky mauve]

I did that to someone in a pug and got reported 🤔

[distant crystal]

it is amazing

[modern brook]

did not know that

[ornate wagon]

hahahahahha i have to do that

[distant crystal]

i learned that like 3 days ago

[jovial haven]

where were you last week when talked about SR cannons bull? lol

[distant crystal]

made me so happy

[modern brook]

aCtually playing the game :^)

this was an ezpz week

[jovial haven]

ive done keys on 2 of 3 tanks this week cus life FeelsBadMan

[exotic spoke]

It was I liked this week

[modern brook]

Anyone know what the Weekly Bonus will be tomorrow?

[distant crystal]

pet battles

😦

in game calendar will show ya

[exotic spoke]

If I want to play Pokémon I’ll go play Pokémon

[distant crystal]

erm

[exotic spoke]

Though, I’ve heard some people say it’s fun.

[distant crystal]

i lied

nvm, i didn't lie

[exotic spoke]

Wow... lying in April fools

Make up your mind!

[distant crystal]

it's pet battle, there's a new brawl or something tho

thought it was pvp bg for a sec there

[modern brook]

:^(

next week sucks so i was gunna take it to lvl alts

was hopeing for TW

[distant crystal]

some day i will do that weekly

WoD timewalking soon tho

week after next

kinda hyped for that

[covert cypress]

Ew WoD dungeons

[exotic spoke]

Never played in WoD. So I’m indifferent

May not even do it

[distant crystal]

that's when i first did CMs

nostalgia time

[clever bronze]

What the hell happened to Skyhold

[distant crystal]

then crucible the following week

[covert cypress]

Actually it depends on the rewards plus i never got the Infinte Timereaver

[clever bronze]

Did the April Fool's get us

[exotic spoke]

What are you talking about

[modern brook]

nah this is just the new aesthetic

[distant crystal]

btw if you use deja stats

[exotic spoke]

It’s always been like this

[formal cloud]

THEY GOT US!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[clever bronze]

Oh. The channel names are all backwards. I'm in protection. I see it now.

[tranquil jungle]

At the risk of being the stupidest person on earth, what is the "best" or preferred Horde Race for Prot Warrior in M+? I know racials e.t.c don't make a huge difference, but is there anything that gives an "edge" ?

[formal cloud]

Good job!

[distant crystal]

you can edit DejaCharacterStats.toc and take out the last line referencing aprilfools.lua or whatever

to turn off their april foolery

[modern brook]

@tranquil jungle u absolute fucking monkey

[exotic spoke]

Transmog sparky. Whatever looks best

That said - goblin

[distant crystal]

personally i'd prob get bloodelf

util

[modern brook]

Belf racial is really good

[formal cloud]

Highmountain Tauren IMO

[exotic spoke]

Goblin - haste

Mobility

[distant crystal]

goblin hop is p sweet

[modern brook]

Orc :^)

[distant crystal]

just take the stupid rocket dmg thing off ur bars

[tranquil jungle]

I guess most of them are very similar and won't make a massive difference, but I'm a lil Gnome atm but Guild needs more M+ tanks so

[clever bronze]

The real solution is to go alliance, you horde scum

[modern brook]

xd

[exotic spoke]

Why would you be going horde then?

[distant crystal]

i race changed my priest to gnome

[modern brook]

going alliance as a solution

it really is april fools day

[distant crystal]

just so i could be goblin in last 3 bosses of raid :p

[tranquil jungle]

I main Horde, but I used to be Alliance so 😄

[distant crystal]

don't mine the 1% haste for either or tho

[exotic spoke]

Ahhh

[clever bronze]

Fuck you too

[formal cloud]

Go a neutral faction IMO

[exotic spoke]

Just go goblin. That’s my preferred race for horde warriors. I have a goblin warrior I need to level up and play with friends.

[modern brook]

yeah like forsaken

[distant crystal]

for the alliance

also be dwarf

make bleeds ur bitch

[tranquil jungle]

So it's basically personal preference 😄

[formal cloud]

Preferred Warrior that you havent even leveled?

COME ON

[modern brook]

@therightsparky alliance: Dwarf/NE/Faction change Horde: Style>belf>goblin

fuckk wrong sparky

[tranquil jungle]

Wrong Sparky huehue

[signal plover]

KT on alliance if u have one of the two mogs they look amazing in

[tranquil jungle]

well it's a 120 Gnome that is only M+ but my Guild's Horde so, need to change it 😄 Zanda troll looked nice for the regen, leap away and heal

[signal plover]

Otherwise dorf

[exotic spoke]

Consequences, I have a Draenei warrior I’m almost 2k on. I have a goblin I fuck around with on horde with friends over there.

[signal plover]

On horde HMT or bust

[modern brook]

hmt are disgusting tbh

[distant crystal]

gift of the naaru tho

[modern brook]

regular tauren are p gross

[exotic spoke]

I like gift

[formal cloud]

All Tauren are beautiful

[tranquil jungle]

Tauren mog usually looks weird D:

[strong forum]

Tauren are gross period

[distant crystal]

it's no light's reckoning but it'll do

[clever bronze]

Same with Worgen

[tranquil jungle]

Wow, you love Taurens. I guess you're really milking it

[formal cloud]

Some people cant handle the beef

[exotic spoke]

I like getting a heal for 100-200k when combined with last stand

[distant crystal]

be sure to tip your bartender

[clever bronze]

Helmets make you look like you came down with the autismus.

[formal cloud]

Moooooooving on

[exotic spoke]

You gotta grab the bull by the horns and take control

[tranquil jungle]

I'll just Hoof it and blindly pick one