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or your other choice for defensiveness
in M+ only
keep in mind that Bloodsport is kinda useless on necrotic weeks
i like the 3 x DC damage, and im only just now pushing into 15s so i dont neeeed the extra survival
I did a 16 and some 14s last week too
don't overlook defensiveness at all, it allows you to pull more which means more dps
but again, DC x 3 if you feel confident enough with your pulls
I just got Helm of Abyssal Malevolence at 415, seems to have great traits
Does Crystalline Dust on Jaina target the tank everytime? or is it random?
tank
ah cool thanks, so tanks are freeeezing us!
ya its a cone in front of her towards the tank, no one should be in front of her, and tanks shouldnt be dragging her over the raid
LMAO
monkaS prank
hceel
everyone is now stormforged enjoy
smh this is not how i wanted stormforged
hey late gz on yellows
notlikethis
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who dis
wadu hek
i've been demoted ๐ข
@lusty grotto Can I ask you a question? I wanna know if you think I should drop 10 ilvl on my shield for leech?
I guess we should start telling people leech is the highest priority today
Stormforged
Also isn't indom pretty good? Its 10% HP, thats like 38k extra health for me.
Guys can you tell me where to get trinket ? I can LFR/M0.
So i will use boosted roll on it ๐
yes @hot locust you should
ok ty!
new bis talent setup for all content if you don't use this you're trolling
https://i.imgur.com/dF9CYve.png

Lord Sco !
:^)
OMG!
@fierce juniper !!!!!!
praise be
OMG WE ARE SO BLESSED TO HAVE @fierce juniper THE LEGENDARY PROTECTION WARRIOR IN OUR DISCORD AS ONE OF OUR CHOSEN ONES
hey guilford, gz on yellow
maybe ill just sleep and wait till april fools is over
so the yellow is the April fools joke but the server icon is staying, yeah?
@fierce juniper you need to add the notification symbol on the thunderclap icon to bait even harder
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And then @ every 1 but delete it
Enable emotes for April fools ๐ฆ
@wooden radish are you lost
Itโs international trolling day
Yes. I noticed Sco is now owner of this discord.
monkaS
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@lusty grotto no troll i actually managed to get 19% leech
literally unkillable
guess how many ilvls i dropped
50?
22
thats good thats good
I approve of the new discord icon. Flexing the true clap God
Clap clap on this. ๐๐๐
๐ข ๐ต ๐
Took me a minute to realize what was going on
@lucid kelp i got stuck on reading the channels name haha
@fierce juniper
@fierce juniper
This is great, permanent new icon pls

Time for the greatest warrior of all time to come back. @fierce juniper step aside, I'm coming to take over this easy version of the game.

THIS
@hot locust hur mรฅr du?
@lusty grotto I WANT THAT BUT I DON'T WANNA SPEND THE GOLD
it just dropped for me
insta transmog for chef nimchip
how do i look guys
omg it wobbles
rofl
it's amazing
its only 18k in NA
it's 70k on kazzak
holy fuck
@lusty grotto whats its name
Hello is this the Thunderclap Discord?
this channel got hacked or wtf
no this is how it is every day
i dont know what youre talking about
What did i wake up to o.o
wtf is going on
mwahi have you geared leech lately?
o.o
Welcome to a world where skyhold is being run by the PROPER best warriors.
as a stormforged i will recommend it
@ionic fern look at me, I am the captain now
shit i just joined a TD with 3 rag players
monkaS
there are a lot of people in voice
We tried 3 TD 20's yesterday btw. EVERY TIME we somehow pulled the mobs on 2nd boss floor through the doors.
Feels good.
And no one knows what pulled since we shroud skipped up there.
ahh good ole TD bugs
oh gz on yellow tofu!
lmao
lol
oh gz on yellow you two
why can't i talk
oh shit i forgot
i was gonna be like
lol
@fierce juniper gimme talkin privs wtf
what is happening
nice fucking meme
thunderclap with notification uilt in
built*
you aint catching me
^
peak of serenity did it too
fel hammer too
why are there somany people in here lol
screw the icon look at the pins LMAO
other discords 
miss me with that prot shit
yo
What the fuck is going on in voice
join'
cock fight
I'm at work
I'm recording lol
its after midnight where ever the person whom did this is
Tldr what's happening pls
april fools Rei
april fools day!
god king skovald joined voice comms
memes, ear rape, people shouting, people shouting the n word
Oh
kelade kelade kelade kelade etc
Well something something your mom
So why is voice full๐๐
"Sco" is there. i assume its not really him
nah dude it's sco
It's actually Sco holy shit
@fierce juniper
the only warrior that knows how to play
hey guys sco here
Get that warrior traitor outta here
scos a fat bitch
so close to becoming the dh disc lel

"I don't even play world of warcraft"
its okay everything will be back to normal soon :^)
lol
I like how they also made a tag at #news and instantly deleted it
and then everyone jumped on voice
@hot locust arent u only allowed to talk with /rw
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@hot locust ska vi prata lite svenska eller Lala?
mans kungen should know his own language smh
@lusty grotto speaking of tol dagor bugs, you know the adds on 2nd boss that come out of cage right?
you mean bobby?!
bobby and raiders
cause bobby is only one that matters
yeah but thats not the point
the adds that it releases are not supposed to give % when you kill them with boss
but somehow when we killed them with boss they gave count
and we triggered reaping on boss when we didnt want it
lol sounds fun
@surreal stump wouldn't surprise me if that was sco's real m+ build
i was laughing so hard at the pins.
@oblique garnet Lala รคr skrรคp spelare vars bรคsta dagar รคr bakom
xD
Kungen only one that matters.
i hacked it
why no one likes kelade
#free arms
#free fury
Because they don't drink the kel-ade.
who is kelade?
Like legit i have no clue who that person is
has it been hijacked??
@jade socket hey can you tell me what the best spec is for m+
All the text channel names are just backwards
April fools dude
made 3 accounts
N
This is it
what about this guy
F
F
I check in here for 2 min and see both @fierce juniper and @hot locust
Of course it's April 1....
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Just an interesting day is all
Lmao
New kungen allied race confirmed
why are there like 300 people in voice all of a sudden
i was watching that Q)Q
why not
Why not?
it is our life
hmm good question but this has never happened before
Are you racist against voice chat
noooo
And if you are the two of you, memes aside, good to see some big faces
first time for everything
That's so fucked dude
tusk runs alright
IF I JUST LAY
aiopsรฆdhfgรฆjladsu
IF I JUST LAY HERE
sHAHAHhahhaha
I was actually surprised voice was so relatively quiet for having that many in it
I fucking hate this day
WE NEED AN ADULT
Every single fucking news outlet does these "EPIC PRANKS"
Good news is. Kungen =Lala so there's that
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I never knew Lala was a baller in Vanilla!!
A little obvious sillyness isn't so terrible.
I am Kungen, greatest warrior in all of World of Warcraft.
didnt you see kungen just call lala garbage player whose best days are behind? o.O
im trying to imrrpove my gfameplay can anyone he;lp???? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/thrall/vilwar
I think it's time for some screenshots @hot locust I hear you have many good ones
Also. Tbh, some selfies of Issa she's a banger
I love prot on my alt
What two trinkets would you use for M+ if going offensive/defensive? 400 vial, 400 gigavolt engine, 400 Butcher w/ socket, 405 feather w/ socket, 415 alc stone, 420 sporepods
im trying to imrrpove my gfameplay can anyone he;lp???? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/thrall/vilwar
im trying to imrrpove my gfameplay can anyone he;lp???? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/thrall/vilwar
@oblique garnet feather diamond for defense then?
I didn't record btw, it was a joke
@true plover Yeah thats a good combo
im just surprised you actually have that ilvl feather
Yea just a lucky tortollan emissary for the 405 w/ socket
Eh maybe in a slow idiot who lives under a rock but... whys all the class discord whacked AF
Iโm
its all just reversed its finee
what happened to discord PepeHands
Ahhhh due
@quiet crane Same reaason wowhead is saying we are getting lightforged undead lol
Dur
IP is better than shield block right???
/nic ciV
@heady sluice you missed it
Cass is in here LULW
you missed the voice channels
yeah what was that about
rofl, kungen, sco, landsoul
About time I get the respect I deserve from you plebs.
Godking Kungen
Fucking easy ass game.
Bows
Bring back Vanilla when the game was hard.
This is amazing
But for reals tho
would be nice to tank vanaill again
Im probably going to try it and get shafted
Yup
just taunt lol
Lke i see the mdi potential
im not even memeing
like those talents together
actually have some sort of synergy
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safeguard is not a meme
i dropped to only 395 ilvl and 19% leech
nice nice
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with 50% leech you would actually be unkillable
@ionic fern dw it was absolute dogshit
I can drop 3 ilvls for 10% leech.
Did you remember to stack Vers with the leech tho for increased healing?
I have 2% leech ):
Kiting + leech = beastmode.
I usually kill critters when kiting for leech healing.
rofl
What are you, a demonhunter?
of course
yes i actually main mist demon hunter
How many stacks of bloodsport do you have
VDH is a solid class
its the secret 3rd spec of dh
all them
its like the combination of rogue
6 bloodsport
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- warrior and dh
Or w/e that azerite trait is
Yes i endorse this
Who is excited for lightforged undead tanking
I heard they take increased healing
Ofcourse they do..they are undead..they take increased holy damage and increased holy healing.
@sick sentinel wanna join on all prot warriors 20 shrine?
is it april fools?
I actually have 20 shrine

Could try
I am down lol
All prots just for the memes
If we kill first boss the rest of the bosses dont seem too hard tbh
With 5 kicks theres no way of cast going through on 2nd
And on 3rd we can just cheese reflect everything
that's what we run in the all warriors uldir HC in 8.0
you can reflect on first boss of shrine as well
the ranged melees as well as the casts
you can SR the debuffs and the undertow or whatever the fuck
So its actually doable๐ค
Don't forget to cheese reflect the first boss as well @oblique garnet
Oh boy i would play a 5 prot war 20
Im curious as to how the mechanics on the last boss work without a healer
Some random healer in the open world gets the buff.
And..does eceryone go into the tank realm?
That..
The debuff goes to nobody
Perhaps the tanktgat healed the most gets the debuff?0
If no healer is present
Are you all going Leech tho?
Yeah, it can only go for healers. But I'm curious how the intermission works
Late this we have try
Also the debuff on the 3rd is ๐ค
taunt reflect taunt reflect
That usually gets insta dispelled
Just last stand and pray?
Single target of 10k on each boss is gonna make it take ages
Only 10k?
Idk ive been doing 15-19k st depending on bosses and if i cba prepotting
@sick sentinel also why did you question me i dont do april fools jokes
I mean with the state of the server right now
Smh no faith
Lol
Ill just comeback tomorrow and maybe the world is right and hasnt burned down
But yeah some bosses i can ramp up sigificabt dps (rezan when my team pulls amillion raptors)
actually
But how doyou actually get a decent amount of dps out on single target
โ:D time to get good i see
And i just pedal really hard
the trick is
And shieldbash i guess?
^
Also using that shield slam reset
I also dont have optimal azerite gear
someone explain to my dumbass what happened here tho
if you see my gear
I am missing a bit of shadow resist
and I am running out of arrows
April 1st @heady sluice
but its still the 31st for me
o.o
its cus we're not the center of the world Pepega
What's with all the names? and the 1? all for april fools?
are raiding azerite traits different from M+?
or not really a big deal if i have more damage focused traits?
Depends what do you run for m+.
If you're stacking 3xBoM/3xDC for m+ then those won't do well in ST during raids.
Won't last long
How much thyme do we have?
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Almost 24 hours
Nice bit of effort for april fools tho guys
In general for raids you'd want ST traits like TC/BfI etc for damage. @torn sleet
You can sim yourself DPS wise to see what comes on top for you with your gear.
The best one ive seen so far is the roleplayer.io score
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oof
wait, so why do people have the vanilla character screen thing and i dont
does it have to do with elvui?
Probably
i think
it's deja charstats
i don't have elvui but i have it
with the ranged slot n all that
I miss the ranged slot because it came with fun memes for dk and paladin books and sigils.
Hey guys, having a bit of trouble figuring out what rings I should be using.... should I just stack haste regardless of the other stats? ie haste/vers or haste/crit?
@ionic fern by TC do you mean treacherous covenant or thunderclap/deafening crash
I have a dozen diff rings and not sure what to use, probably for surviv
Haste/vers
no one mentions deafening crash as TC
Treacherous Covenant.
well, my haste/vers one is 385, the others are 400-405, crit/vers, crit/haste, haste/mast and a vers/mast/avoid
Itemlvl>haste
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As long as it gas gaste its good too
Itemlvl matters as a tank, aka more health, more dps reduction
is there a certain % to aim for unbuffed? ( like without the into the fray up )
healer had to pull 44k HPS in order to do that fight
haste % I mean
no @fresh forum
Just go for as much as possible
Alright cool, so you woulc pick a haste/crit then over a vers/mast?
Yeah
yo for 18 waycrest what secondaries should I be looking to priorities to make the left side pull smoother
crit haste
If youre affraid of guard boys shadow cleaving, just keep backpeddaling
then u full dodge those
oh icic
i will scream at my dps for even thinking about kicking etch
does holding back pedal make me fast enough to dodge all the cleaves?
yes
and with etch, does it cast on random players?
Feels good man, when a month ago i was here asking, now i can answer at least 5% of them ๐
Still learning the ins and outs of prot, f***in love it though. so much fun
Yeah
Stomping dps in large packs.. feels good
Its good to see them with some love
on the left side pull in waycrest what should we be kicking?
I'm still relatively low geared, 403, highest I've tanked is an 11, but felt solid.
if you ever kick
(Also i improved a lot so thats nice)
Wait interrupting casts is a bad thing on the left ?
Whyโs that?
etch does no damage
You can kick the shield things so you dont have to purge
her meeles?
Ohyesthe melees hurt like abiiiitch
yea
just parry all her melees?
Good to know ๐
hmmm
You should be kicking the Spirited Defense, that's annoying.
How do you get better leech
the classic
The aserite traits and titanforgin?
Siphoning K a p p a
Siphoning?
but i'm toxic
you fuckers really messed me up witht he backwards naem changing
the worst thing is the fake notification
LOL oh man and yes that fake notification is annoying
The wowhead thing is great
oh wowhead did something>
'ptr'
But whats siphoning? Thats the azerite trait?
that's a weapon enchant
Wep enchant
leech weapon enchant
dont run it
pepe goggles? I want some
Lol...that sounds nasty
in all honesty, i started noticing some value in leech once you hit a threshhold
Especially on reaping
it's not
but that's not saying you should run siphoning
Oh i wont
Ugh, there is nothing wrong with Leech..IF you get it on your highest ilvl gear.
I like my haste
so I got a question. I was watching the mythic invitationals and I couldnt see what azerites the port warriors ran
I am doing 3 BoM and 2 Bloodsport as mains
isnt too shabby so far
Get a DC.
I have a dc
3x BOM+1x DC and the rest was up in the air, naowh had the best setup though
no reason to stack more than 1
I was told you shouldnt stack dc
DPS is the reason to stack more than one.
Hmm
wait stacking deafening crash?
for damage
This sounds interesting
I might have to try this now
3dc 3 bastion?
AoE DPS wise DC stacking is one of the best traits
3 stacks DC with what
bom
oh gawd and for mythic plus thats ok?
M+ is all about damage
for damage purposes, yes
I do fine on 11's right now but anything to pump out better dps. I pull around 60k on reapings with my current set up
tofu implying he plays the game
What are the mdi tanks running
TOP LULLI
I ran 3xBoM/3xDC for a while in m+
who are you
Albuut
so 3 BOM and 3 DC. ill have to see how in the hell I can get those pieces
is ti really a major dps increase for the 3 DC's?
theres 2 chests i think
You'll be fine with 3xBoM/1xDC as well.
^^^^
3x BOM + 1x DC is the important base you want for m+
15/16s dont have a time constraint, nor a defensive constraint tbh
You can easily time 16s by just pulling pack by pack without wiping multiple times
Your trinkets
I'm chicken shit to try higher than 11 lol
Can you replace the vial?
with what
Anything..
I got 410 Jes, 395 Lingering Spore, 400 Alchemist stone, 355 blockades, and 370 syringe
briny is just trash in general
ah.. hmm well shit lol
nice pad damage
But it is ass on prot
Good thing you dont pull reaping onto other packs :')
Big red button is wack too
so out of mine which would be better
I lack trinkets lol
Alchemist stone
the azerites ok?
Seemed good to me
370 dooms fury, and a jes howler
Farm ap
so now I got 3 BoM, 2x DC, and 1 BS
Dps in m+
apparently 3xdc is hella dps
Iโve seen at least 2 dcโs in mdi
my necklace is 41, dont need to worry about AP hardcore
if you arent 43 by now idk man
Youre gimping yourself
I'm 40, to many alts..lol
I'm 41. ๐คท
I don't do anything other than raid/m+ tho so.
Bevayae i neglected farming it
Youre misssing out on last ring traits, and they are pretty big on prot.
i was under the impression you'd want 3x BoM > 2x IF > 1x DC?
Hasn't been a problem yet.
I need 1 more level for all my last rings
@gaunt dawn old news.
or even sub out 1x BoM + IF for Bloodsport
dps is important but staying alive is too
That's the healers job
Dps=staying alive
fair enough
helps with uh,.. skittish.. lol
lets go with that ๐
Every second you kill them earlier
so what scales better CR or BS in terms of dps
cause I dont have that third dc so I am trying to decide what to pick out of them
is BoM just for the mastery attack power?
Jeap.
no
I think both?
And crit block
And the crit blocks
Ez.
Youre a legit god during SB+Ava
was gonna say, why not 1x TC in there?
bom gives you a free ignore pain too
as you'd get more AP from that
Yeah but stacking doesn't touch that
yo what keys are you doing
checks out
that you can be indifferent to survival
im a big +2 key main
dayum

it's memes dude but honestly the faster things die the less it matters
Yeah im trying to go towards 20 keys now
one bom + shield block is invincibility during avatar so the rest is just about ensuring things don't live past you being untouchable
Got almost everything up to 15/16 (kr and SoB excluded)
I did a 2 atl that I +1 for a guildie that couldnt handle higher than 3 at the time but
OVER TIME BY ALMOST 2 HOURS WTF
oh my
Holy
the rest of that tanks io
u slacking vic
is ๐ถ
i been playing prot warrior for a little over a week and doing that
Iโve had to carry raids...
ok ok fair enuff
jesus every 2 that warrior did he failed
And farm ap
prot raiding omegalul
Debatable
so what trinket do I look for to complement that rezans
since I use my stone for the time being
diamond barrier
Yep
oh the opulence trinket?
Opulence Trinket
I use that too
- Whatever
Yup
hmm Ill see if I can get it to drop
Ihabe it on 395 and use it over....
it's tough to get because prot can't raid but its very good
3xBoM/3xDC 10 mobs 1 minute:
420 vial
if I have to ill get it on RF
Does overwhelming power stack, the haste #?
yes
Dont
aye, for the patting stealth boys in temple
What?
before first boss
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wait why no OP
is there a way to find them consistently?
On big pulls its gone before its useful
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Any time you take damage it drops a stack
cause was told they were dead, then went into boss and grabbed them
strength in numbers instead I guess
do you need dh sight?
can only lose 1 stack per second, no?
so whats better then. AG or SH
or what else works if the hunter beacon doesn't grab it
yes
yea
I only have those 3 on my helm
its written on the item
Interesting
*trait
I must have missed that
how did you not notice?
Imagine pulling 20 mobs and the stacks would be away in 1 second with no ICD.
Feels good
tbh I don't really ever know how many stacks of OP I have anyways
Just wondering if I should stack 2 OP
But uh idk for prot
it's a good trait
DAT HAste
if its 26 haste per stack, would it be 26 x 2 then?
yes
Yes
its pretty much the best trait for prot
Ok
so 52 haste a stack
Oh damn
lost every second
Thanks kugen
you lose a stack every 3s OR every 1s when taking damage
So the icy veins said
So it might not even get to its max stacks then
Ablative armor>Op
since we always take dmg lol
it starts at max ๐ก
But thatโs for raiding i guess,
happens
I too made that mistake
I would 100% take OP over ablative shielding
see I could take 2x OP but I would lose 1 BoM
Wat
I wotn do it but
wat indeed
Overwhelminh power is not on the same tier as BoM
why is this channel not called thunderclap
diff tier yeah
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I got 2 BoM and 1 DC
and my current ones with CR/BoM
maybe Deja?
What did that guy say?
lolw ho
59% mastery when I use avatar with the BoM haha
likely Elvui, yeah
New to prot, besides using SB when taking physical dmg, whenโs the best time to use/pool rage for IP
when you know there is big damage incoming? ๐ค
most of the time I just use it for revenge to just deal biggus dickus damage
Yeo
if we are talking about mythic +
Yep
when i'm in a raid i try to keep it up all the time, but that's because the healers like to heal the DK more than me
@elfin hedge wat
lolol
Lol same
I know that dk is a wet noodle
Im doing a +8 to test out this new build
but still
My healers hate me
i've always had problems with healers healing other tanks more :-(
Yeah our prot pally takes more dmg than me so healers are always on him lol
So only two heal me
i think 1 heals me and thats about it
If i tank i require the least healing
He's always 10-15% more dmg taken, but equal tanking time
could just be the pally playstyle, no idea
Prot war>Prot paluldin
I mean mitigation for warri is kinda random
if you block hits or not
I mean jaina is the best example
I press shield block she gives me 5 ice shards I block 4
My health doesnt move
Paladins do have a self-heal tho.
Yep
and really really good damage mitgation in big pulls
Thought we talking raids.
Just wait until they make a raid tier where damage isn't blockable anymore. 
Cant wait for Nighthold 2 electric boogaloo
^
DK for mekka, Prot Pally for Bwomsamdi
Just got some 420 boots off Ivus world boss.. with a socket.. no haste though, shit
One change..."Ice Shard is now a magic ability". 
Praise the prot warrior
Our guild is 8/9M and they swap between War/DK, War/Pally and War/Monk
Warrior is the common lol
Not really a bad fight for them this tier
DK remains the grip-bitch
tho, my prot warrior co-tank gets sad when he has to tank the mage too much on jadefire
I need a damn guild to tank for
@fresh forum poor guy starts sweating at 10 stacks
Mine has a gm that refuses to let me tank ๐ญ
Why?
I always stress on it lol
Because that would mean him losing his tanking spot
And wel...he cant do anything but tank
And the other tank?
oh boy toast
Lovely guild.
@undone sun don't like em?